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Put up bombs - for an ally



Russia will respond in response to US plans to deploy new tactical nuclear bombs in Germany. This statement was made yesterday by the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov. According to him, the plans of Americans can lead to a violation of strategic balances in Europe. "Therefore, of course, this will require Russia to take appropriate counter-steps, countermeasures to restore this strategic balance and parity," he said.

Recall that the United States plans in the near future to place 20 atomic bombs in Germany. The sensational report, more typical of the period of the Cold War, was issued by the German TV channel ZDF. According to journalists, on the American base in the German town of Büchel tactical atomic bombs like B-61-12 will be placed.

Currently, tactical charges of the same group and destination are located on this air base, but of an earlier modification - the 11 series (B-61-11). Also in the amount of 20 units. Their replacement by more modern warheads, according to German media, will cost the US 10 billions of dollars. The funds will also be used to adapt ammunition for German Tornado aircraft. Since so far only American fighters F-22 Raptor are capable of carrying such charges.

According to military experts, the B-61-12 type bomb is much more accurate and powerful than its predecessor. It is worth noting that 11-I and 12-I modifications are fundamentally different from all previous methods of application. Older B61 modifications were designed for surface action and did not exceed 9 megatons in TNT equivalent. Simply put, the bombs exploded in the air and were designed to destroy the equipment and manpower of the enemy in the usual way. The current modifications are equipped with a special case and retarder fuse. This allows the bomb to penetrate a few meters into the surface and explode already underground. In this case, the 9-megaton charge dramatically increases in power: with a ground explosion, some of the energy is lost, going into the air, and with an underground seismic effect, the damaging power dramatically increases.

By the way, it is precisely because of its "non-strategic" nature that weapon never fell under any agreement on nuclear disarmament.

In the Ministry of Defense of Germany refused to comment on reports of new nuclear bombs. But Berlin’s plans were confirmed by Thomas Hichler, a politician from the Social Democratic Party of Germany, who specializes in state security issues. According to him, in the coming years, the federal government intends to spend 112 million euros on the development of an airbase in the city of Büchel. In turn, the former parliamentary secretary of state under the German defense minister, Willy Wimmer, called it "the deliberate provocation of our Russian neighbors."

The Russian Foreign Ministry said they are concerned about the information that countries that do not have their own nuclear weapons are practicing their use.

We add that, according to the German TV channel, it is planned to modernize other European bases with American nuclear weapons, such as Incirlik in Turkey and Aviano in Italy.

At the same time, yesterday it became known that Russia, in response to the emergence of new American nuclear bombs in Germany, could deploy Iskander-M operational-tactical missile systems in the Kaliningrad region. "Such a question is being considered," a diplomatic source told Interfax.

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Victor Murakhovsky, military expert:


- According to the letter and spirit of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, nuclear countries must take measures to not transfer control and management of nuclear weapons to other countries. However, as pilots aviation The Bundeswehr, as well as pilots, for example, Holland, Belgium, and in recent years, Poland have been training in the use of American tactical nuclear weapons, including these bombs.

Victor Esin, former head of the Strategic Missile Forces


- Considering our nuclear arsenals, these bombs do not carry a separate threat to Russia. True, in conjunction with the nuclear forces of Britain, France and the United States, this is a very significant addition.

Pavel Zolotarev, Deputy Director, Institute for the USA and Canada:


- Nuclear weapons have long been no means of warfare, it is only a factor used exclusively for political purposes. By the way, during the Cold War, more than 7 thousands of nuclear weapons were deployed in Europe, after which the Americans left only 150. We now remembered the US tactical nuclear weapons because of the situation in the world. From a military point of view, it poses no threat to Russia, because these are bombs that can be delivered to the target only by aircraft. And the aircraft that is based in Europe, at best, can reach the border with Russia. As for the possibility of their relocation closer to the territory of Russia, it is meaningless, because such objects are always the goal of the first strike.
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  1. papont64
    papont64 25 September 2015 05: 48 New
    +10
    Do the Germans really not understand that they are the first to be fried in the case of a shecher.
    1. svp67
      svp67 25 September 2015 05: 51 New
      +14
      Quote: papont64
      Do the Germans really not understand that they are the first to be fried in the case of a shecher.

      And someone asks them? Yes, and that would not have accidentally thought, here's a problem with Ukraine and here you have refugees ... Americans are playing the game clearly on the notes ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 September 2015 10: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        The Americans are playing the game clearly on the notes ...

        Looks like they have a finger in the priest Frau Merkel. No wonder she was in no hurry to pick up gold from the United States, and she let go of the brakes about the NSA wiretap.
      2. ver_
        ver_ 27 September 2015 07: 10 New
        0
        ... not kidding. but try .., and these are two big differences ..
    2. domokl
      domokl 25 September 2015 06: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: papont64
      they will be the first to fry in the case of a sheer.

      The nuclear weapons are designed for the fact that the answer will not arrive anymore ... Therefore, whoever swings first is right. Even systems for automatically responding to a nuclear strike will work on goals already set, and not on newly emerging ones.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 25 September 2015 06: 58 New
        +2
        So you need to beat first? What are we waiting for? I think this is not our method! Moreover, we already went through this - there is experience!
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 25 September 2015 07: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: domokl
        Therefore, whoever first bangs is right.

        In this case, this applies only to nuclear weapons located on strategic or tactical missiles. Aircraft with nuclear weapons on board is precisely the "answer". In any case, her chances of survival are slim, especially when using free-falling bombs rather than air-launched cruise missiles. No matter how supersonic the Tornado would be, its radius of action is small, the airfield is by no means a mine, it will not be possible to adequately protect the runway and buildings from the first strike, and one of the first blows will come at such airfields. So this is a purely advertising move by the States. At the same time, Germany was shown its true place in Amer’s military plans - to be the first victim in a hypothetical war.
        1. st25310
          st25310 25 September 2015 14: 27 New
          0
          Retaliatory measures need to be taken at the borders of the United States (Cuba, Venezuela) place TU-22 there, Iskander with nuclear warheads, then it will be effective (from Cuba to Washington all 2000km).
    3. Slobber
      Slobber 25 September 2015 09: 01 New
      0
      Gentlemen, calm down, no one will place bombs in Europe.
    4. avdkrd
      avdkrd 25 September 2015 09: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: papont64
      Do the Germans really not understand that they are the first to be fried in the case of a shecher.

      Germans may understand, but who asked them? As an alaverdi, you can begin to train pilots and prepare the planes of the CSTO countries as carriers of tactical nuclear weapons, maybe not just the CSTO, but countries connected with Russia by allied commitments - Venezuela, how about you?
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +2
      The author of the bomb seems to have confused that the B53Y1 bomb had a thermonuclear charge of 9 Megatons, while the latest modification of the B61 bomb had 80 kilotons.
  2. Lunic
    Lunic 25 September 2015 05: 53 New
    +1
    the last paragraph in the article put everything in its place. You can not discuss further.
    1. domokl
      domokl 25 September 2015 06: 02 New
      +4
      You are very wrong. Any military expert will tell you that such bombs will never be used in the depths of the enemy’s defense.
      And the rest. The plane is flying. In neutral airspace, or in the Baltic states, for example. What will Russia do? Nothing! There is no violation. Own sky And a blow is struck from the border. 12 series of bombs allows you to do this.
      Combined with the nuclear missiles listed by Yesin, this is a serious challenge to us.
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 25 September 2015 07: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: domokl
        And a blow is struck from the border.

        And the point? Immediately get an answer to their headquarters with missiles? You can’t even throw a bomb of this modification from foreign territory, you won’t hit real strategic goals. The answer will come to the capitals of NATO countries and headquarters with command centers, and even to all known locations of nuclear weapons carriers.
        I don’t know, personally for me, this is the next budget development, a rather big piece, 10 yards of greenery.
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 25 September 2015 05: 54 New
    +4
    Quote: papont64
    Do the Germans really not understand that they are the first to be fried in the case of a shecher.

    and the German, no one asked, they are not masters in their house, and soon their house will not be theirs, and they will say hello: Salaam Alaikum, Herr Mueller! wassat
  4. Dimka999
    Dimka999 25 September 2015 05: 54 New
    +3
    Russia is evil .... Russia is aggressor same .... Russia wants to conquer Europe and the United States ....)) 0
  5. morpogr
    morpogr 25 September 2015 06: 02 New
    +3
    The Germans were clearly demonstrated that they are still occupied. And the Americans at their bases in Germany will do what they want and are not going to ask the Germans for permission.
    1. Dimka999
      Dimka999 25 September 2015 08: 27 New
      +1
      As if the Americans were asking someone for permission. Do not sarashit and will not ask ....

      What is Germany there? All of Europe is occupied ....
      the United States that Europe will say it will be, and it does not matter whether it is good or bad for Europe itself .....
  6. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 25 September 2015 06: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: Dimka999
    Russia is evil .... Russia is aggressor same .... Russia wants to conquer Europe and the United States ....)) 0

    if only the good Arab refugees couldn’t get to them ... otherwise our drunk people would sing songs in the Lithuanian base
    1. Dimka999
      Dimka999 25 September 2015 08: 32 New
      +1
      It’s garbage that a million refugees from Arab countries go to Europe and it doesn’t matter what the Catholic churches are demolishing and mosques are being built in their place .... The main thing is to protect yourself from the evil and terrible terran Putin))
  7. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 25 September 2015 06: 05 New
    +3
    They want to plunge Europe into the chaos of war for the third time in a century. The Anglo-Saxons always lie, always "throw" their "allies" and always have the benefit of it. They dismembered the USSR by hanging "noodles" on its citizens ", they devoured the resources of the social camp. Now they are looking for someone else to devour.
    Anglo-Saxons always benefit from their actions. Whose language is the most important on the planet today? English. Whose money is the main thing on the planet? Anglo-Saxon.
    Who benefits?
    1. domokl
      domokl 25 September 2015 06: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      They want to plunge Europe into the chaos of war for the third time in a century.

      And I think that everything is simpler. They want to plunge Russia into an arms race, and thereby undermine the economy. As was the case with star warriors.
      That is why the answer should not be quantitative, but qualitative. Not a hundred bombs in return, but something that will make these bombs just scrap. I think that major efforts are now going in this direction.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 September 2015 06: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: domokl
        That is why the answer should not be quantitative, but qualitative.

        True sasha hi Electronic warfare yes
        1. domokl
          domokl 25 September 2015 06: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Electronic warfare

          Hi Andrew. EW is by itself. But somehow I’m starting to think about diesel submarines .. I need to equip them with something ... And strengthen the air defense systems to destroy precisely the “little things.” Let them ride along the border .. Like constant readiness, which means constant exercises. Then you can still see who will put more in the pants lol money from the budget
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 25 September 2015 12: 07 New
            0
            But somehow I’m starting to think about diesel submarines .. ,,
            They thought, without us. New boats are equipped with missiles with wings. They say that not a single drop will leak. Gee-gee.
      2. venaya
        venaya 25 September 2015 06: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        They want Europe ... to plunge into the chaos of war.

        And I think that everything is simpler. They want to plunge Russia into an arms race. And thereby undermine the economy. As was the case with star warriors. ...

        With Star Wars, it’s almost not so. We were quickly killed by finances when it turned out that this was bullshit, at least for the near future. More reminiscent of another hunchback game, i.e. distraction from his true goals.
        1. domokl
          domokl 25 September 2015 06: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: venaya
          We quickly killed finance, when it turned out that this bullshit

          And how many projects were suspended before this "killing". This des operation is now being studied in all specialized universities of the world ... We laughed seriously then fellow
          1. venaya
            venaya 25 September 2015 07: 30 New
            0
            Quote: domokl
            ... This operation on des is now being studied in all relevant universities of the world ... We laughed seriously then fellow

            I can’t answer for the whole country, in principle I could not have info. The money spent was ridiculously small in relation to other topics. I don’t know what they are studying at universities, I’ll take an interest, but as a rule they also drive bullshit, there are examples. But what we did, so firstly everything worked out, and secondly, it had applied value in other areas, even in civilian life. When I learned about the closure of finances, Ash gasped, the decree came from above and was very harsh, which is why I am writing, maybe I’m wrong, of course I don’t have exact data, I write what I know.
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 25 September 2015 07: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: venaya
          We quickly killed finance

          The country was liquidated for us, having divided the USSR into 15 parts, three of which entered NATO into us against us, one started a war with us in 2008, and another one is trying with all its might to draw us into the Third World War.
          1. venaya
            venaya 25 September 2015 08: 07 New
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            We eliminated the country, dividing the USSR into 15 parts ...

            This is exactly what I am writing about, I believe, on the basis of my data, that the whole story of Star Wars was a true cover operation, the fog needed to implement completely different schemes for defeating the country. Hunchback was imposed precisely for this, and how all this was done, I suspect is still hidden. Bullshit they drive the master.
      3. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 25 September 2015 07: 29 New
        0
        Quote: domokl
        And I think that everything is simpler.

        Do not forget that the arrogant Saxons twice got out of crises due to World Wars.
  8. Vityok
    Vityok 25 September 2015 06: 17 New
    0
    Not only the Germans, but the whole of Europe, the Yankees do not ask what they will order. They will order "they bark and bark" request
  9. engineer74
    engineer74 25 September 2015 06: 40 New
    +1
    It’s time to answer adequately: to train Cuban and Venezuelan pilots on the use of nuclear weapons, they are learning from us! wink Weapons, of course, do not transfer until.
    This will make "probable partners" think! And, not important, but important - not a fig.
    IMHO
  10. sl22277
    sl22277 25 September 2015 06: 56 New
    0
    Merkel, a dog in the hands of amers. The Princess and the Peas! In Germany there are so many "refugees", among whom there may be terrorists .... I admit such a probability that they may have bombs. Or does Washington want to make such a "royal gift" to the Islamic State?
  11. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 25 September 2015 06: 56 New
    0
    Quote: domokl
    Quote: venaya
    We quickly killed finance, when it turned out that this bullshit

    And how many projects were suspended before this "killing". This des operation is now being studied in all specialized universities of the world ... We laughed seriously then fellow

    Since the time of Ivan the Terrible, many manifestations of Russian gullibility in relation to enemies, to strangers.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 25 September 2015 07: 50 New
    +1
    I look no one pays attention to the fact that pilots from Holland, Belgium and, in recent years, Poland have been training for use. In fact, Americans can transfer nuclear bombs to countries that still do not have these weapons.
    So sign a treaty with such a country "On the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons", can Belarusians offer us a couple of charges "for storage" ??
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 September 2015 09: 40 New
      0
      In the future, the United States can significantly increase the British nuclear arsenal, warheads in warehouses in the United States for Trident 2D5 missiles remained in large numbers.
  13. sieras
    sieras 25 September 2015 10: 40 New
    +1
    propose a dozen intercontinental missiles with launchers deployed in North Korea. just consider this option. I wonder who will sing.
  14. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 25 September 2015 11: 36 New
    0
    bombs
    Aw, Mattresses! Why bombs? Have you forgotten how to make rockets yet? laughing