The head of the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation said that Naftogaz turned to Gazprom for a "winter" discount on gas

Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak said that the Ukrainian Naftogaz sent a request to Gazprom about the gas discount for the winter period 2015-2016. Novak did not submit the details of the request to the Ukrainian company, but said that the Russian government had already prepared a draft resolution on granting gas discounts to Ukraine. Awesome government responsiveness! ..

According to RIA News, the discount for “blue fuel” for Ukraine for the winter period will be about 20 dollars per 1 thousand cubic meters. It is noted that the agreement agreed with the European Commission.

Alexander Novak:

We have agreed with the European Commission on the principles of our work for the winter period, this principle implies that the discount will be considered by reducing the export duty rate on a quarterly basis. Not for the whole winter period, but separately for the fourth and separate first quarters. At present, a corresponding draft resolution has been prepared; this discount will be less than in the third quarter. Now the final calculations are made about what kind of discount it will be, but on average 20 dollars plus or minus.

Recall, earlier, Kiev stated that it refuses to buy gas from Russia until Gazprom sells “blue fuel” on terms that interest Kiev. Apparently, the conditions for Kiev again created ...

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[Putinets]

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

[kil 31]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

[Mooh]

And why do not we arrange a social blockade of Ukraine? Nekhai Yanukovych and Azarov will seize the valve and block it. There must be at least some sense from them.

[Pancho]

Quote: MooH

And why do not we arrange a social blockade of Ukraine? Nekhai Yanukovych and Azarov will seize the valve and block it. There must be at least some sense from them.

We supply them with fuel and lubricants, so make your own conclusions.

[alexander 2]

Which, by the way, go to the refueling of dill tanks fighting against New Russia. Is it time to change the government?

[BDRM 667]

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

Is this, it turns out, urkaina, that can twist ropes from us?

And we are NOBODY, and calling us ANYTHING?

[vadson]

Quote: BDRM 667

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

Is this, it turns out, urkaina, that can twist ropes from us?

And we are NOBODY, and calling us ANYTHING?

there would be no one power would have scored on the inhabitants of the Crimea and 404 would "freeze" the entire peninsula. as well as temporary difficulties. Where is the guarantee that after the construction of the energy bridge to the Crimea, all discounts for the ruins will evaporate and the price for them will be at the maximum, and gas theft will be a problem for the EU?

[go21zd45few]

Ukraine is twisting ropes from our government, and the government is twisting ropes from the people.
I sometimes think, and who is worse than the always drunk Poroshenko or our mediocre government.

[gav6757]

Our government is something!
One should not be surprised if the prime manager is Serdyukov!
The whole economic bloc, some liberals!
When people rally, in difficult times, this government requires raising the retirement age. It does not mean reducing exorbitant salaries for the top officials, it does not mean reducing energy prices in its own country, it is trying to worsen the lives of its people !!!
Remember Yakunin’s income statement, for his daily income you can live for an average workforce a month!
But this is the official who headed the state. a corporation.
This is where our whole government is, how to rob our own people, and they do not care about our aspirations, at the expense of the people they "saw" discount money once again.
They are with EP, they are untouchable !!!

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

I completely agree with you, and I consider the pearls of Siluyanov to replenish the budget at the expense of pensioners and their savings, if the sovereign servants find a billion pocket money during arrests, it means that there is no control from Mr. Siluyanov or comes from a share, but from this unicorn We didn’t hear about replenishment due to cost reduction for ineffective Duma or for ineffective regional governments, in general, EP is EP and will not change its pocket.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: BDRM 667

And we are NOBODY, and calling us ANYTHING?

Already 24 of the year, like. Thank you to the Maydauns. Here, by the way, they want to repeat the events of 91 of the year

[varov14]

Finally it came that no one at all.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: varov14

Finally it came that no one at all.

Still in the 90-s reached

[Bochik]

Quote: BDRM 667

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

Is this, it turns out, urkaina, that can twist ropes from us?

And we are NOBODY, and calling us ANYTHING?

Aha! And the ministers are all without exception Poroshenko's spies and pests. And in Gazprom, fools are sitting and the country is being sold for a pittance because of the stupidity of their foe.;)

[Bochik]

Quote: Bochik

Quote: BDRM 667

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

Is this, it turns out, urkaina, that can twist ropes from us?

And we are NOBODY, and calling us ANYTHING?

Aha! And the ministers are all without exception Poroshenko's spies and pests. And in Gazprom, fools are sitting and the country is being sold for a pittance because of the stupidity of their foe.;)

Well, damn it, they threw cons ... Did you know the word sarcasm? No? Yes? So this is he himself! All karma spoiled ..

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: BDRM 667

Is this, it turns out, urkaina, that can twist ropes from us?

The Russian government has already prepared a draft decree on giving Ukraine a discount on gas. Awesome government responsiveness! ..

Still handed over, fucking stsuki ... And how after this Kuev should think about us? "Yes, we are on their heads with us ... rum, they will not go anywhere, they will give gas! How we dashingly bent cotton wool!" - so it turns out?

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

I agree with you, and at least a friend or an ally can ask for a discount, and these Fuhrer of the Ukrainian people, our enemies, have announced our country, what kind of discounts can we talk about? Especially against the background of screams that they are not going to pay debts at all, and if so, then the price of gas for the Outskirts should be formed on the basis of the concept for the ENEMY, we did not declare them to be our enemy, but they.

[vorobey]

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

It's like ... aren't you funny yourself? Trucks to Crimea rod through the crossing from Rostov ...

What kind of blockade?

[kil 31]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: keel 31

Likely for this they arranged a blockade of the Crimea, so that they could show they could block it more seriously.

It's like ... aren't you funny yourself? Trucks to Crimea rod through the crossing from Rostov ...

What kind of blockade?

What a laugh there might be. Since they said that they had put up a blockade, that is the way it is. I see no reason not to trust ukroSMI. Once they say that the Crimean separatists will die of hunger, probably the way it is.

[sevsor]

Do you really believe ukroSMI? We here, in Crimea, are not going to die at all, tea is not 41 years old (((In total, we do quite well without dill, there are plenty of our own. As Professor Preobrazhensky said: "Do not read Soviet (Khokhlyak) newspapers", neither before breakfast, nor during the day, it is contraindicated for immature minds)))

[BDRM 667]

Quote: sevsor

Do you really believe ukrosMI?

I don’t watch Ukrainian media, and practically do not read my own TV channels, including federal ones, which themselves inflate the bubble of Ukrainian stations.

[sevsor]

Do not look ukroSMI, - this is your decision, I did not understand the phrase: "their TV channels, including federal ones, which themselves inflate the bubble of Ukrainian stations" (In my opinion, some federal stations really inflate the bubble, BUT this, - "Echo Moscow "," Ser.Dozhd "," Lenta.Ru "and others. Grant-eaters, but how can they be called ours?

[vorobey]

Quote: sevsor

but can they be called ours?

it's not the same for everybody

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: keel 31

Since they say that the Crimean separatists will die of hunger, probably the way it is

Yes it's true

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

With the collapse of the Union, it was heard from the independent ones that M. Muscovy was fat and now they had to decide that they were feeding the Russian Crimea - the height of cretinism, well, that doesn’t surprise anyone, if only they were engaged in something and there would always be someone to blame.

[ty60]

While Crimea receives energy supply through Ukraine, there are few options. We supply ourselves with redundancy through DIFFERENT networks and supply cables. The source of trade will disappear.

[BDRM 667]

Sorry that this is not a topic, but it is impossible not to publish it, but there is no more or less suitable topic.

And since, an article about Ukraine ...

Explosion thundered at Torez training ground during tank biathlon

Subject:
The situation in the DNI and LC. September 2015 (471)
17: 5424.09.2015 (updated: 19: 19 24.09.2015) 222158587
During the competition among tank crews at the exhibition site, an unknown device exploded, a child died, several people were injured.
Dropper. Archive photo
© RIA News. Alexey Kudenko
DONETSK, 24 Sep - RIA News. The child died in an explosion of an unidentified device at the Torez training ground of the Donetsk People’s Republic, where tank biathlon was held, RIA Novosti was told in the DNR Ministry of Emergency Situations.

"On Thursday, September 24, an unknown explosive device exploded at the Torez training ground during a competition among tank crews at the exhibition site. As a result of the explosion, a child was killed, there are wounded," said the representative of the Ministry of Emergency Situations.

The fact of the emergency was confirmed by the Minister of Emergency Situations of the DPR Alexei Kostrubitsky. He added that the circumstances of the incident are being investigated. The persons involved in the terrorist act are identified, officials who have committed negligence and the possibility of committing sabotage are interviewed. http://ria.ru/world/20150924/1279563311.html

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

Discount, fascist, terrorist sub-state ...

It is sad that our narrow-minded politicians, by their inaction, drove us into a corner from which we have to "dance" to the dictation of the junta ...

No words, only expressions ...

[Koshak]

Quote: BDRM 667

Discount, fascist, terrorist sub-state ...

And do not you feel ashamed by the ancient mighty Ukrainians to beg for a discount from the country-aggressor, where subhumans live?

[2С5]

... they call it "KIEV CONDITIONS" .... they are not beggars

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: BDRM 667

It is sad that our narrow-minded politicians, by their inaction, drove us into a corner, from which we have to "dance" to the dictation of the junta ..

The Yeltsinoids just finished what they started in 1924.
It’s for the best that the USSR collapsed, it’s much easier to build a new system than rebuild the old one.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: BDRM 667

Explosion thundered at Torez training ground during tank biathlon

[Genry]

Quote: BDRM 667

It is sad that our narrow-minded politicians, by their inaction, drove us into a corner from which we have to "dance" to the dictation of the junta ...

You broad-headed, you had to tell the government and the president in a timely manner that there was no need to take Crimea. And now blow off for them.
Or maybe you need to understand that the situation has arisen through no fault of the government and it is being resolved. And there is no need to moan about "fucked up everything ...".

[Lord of the Sith]

A message from a militia with the callsign "Archangel".

"Donetsk," exercises "continue all day. Incoming and outgoing in the direction of the Kalininsky district, about 3 hours ago, ambulances with flashing lights joined the" exercises "."

A message from a resident of Donetsk: "Several powerful bachs, such that the glasses were shaking. Hopefully, teachings again. Hopefully."

Message from Eduard Basurin: "The reconnaissance of the DPR militia found two new missile batteries of the Grad MLRS and the Uragan rocket launcher near the line of contact. In the area of ​​the settlement of Roty, 15 km from the line of contact, a concentration of the 9K57 Uragan MLRS was established; up to two reactive batteries of the MLRS BM-29 Grad were noted in the area of ​​the village of Ivanovka, 21 km from the line of contact (Donetsk direction). The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to move the group of troops deep into the buffer zone in order to engineer their positions and rotate units. "

Message from Alexei Kostrubitsky Minister of Emergency Situations of the DPR.

"Today, September 24, at the Torez training ground during the tank biathlon competition at the exhibition site, an unknown explosive device exploded. As a result of the explosion, a child was killed, there are wounded. According to the results of a preliminary investigation, the explosion was characterized as a terrorist attack committed by Ukrainian punishers. the circumstances of the incident are being investigated, the persons involved in the terrorist act are being identified and the officials who have committed negligence and the possibility of sabotage are being questioned. More detailed comments are expected after the preliminary results of the investigation are received. "

A message from the military correspondents: "Eyewitnesses report an explosion and a fire at the observation deck at the Torez training ground during the Tank Biathlon. According to preliminary data, a child, an 8-year-old girl, was killed, and there is also information about several injured. The competition was suspended."

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Sith Lord

A message from a militia with the callsign "Archangel".

Lord , could you comment on the message of RIA Novosti about the terrorist attack on the tank biathlon of the DPR?

http://ria.ru/world/20150924/1279563311.html

"Post scriptum".

I see you have supplemented your comment with news about the terrorist attack.

Do you have any idea who might be involved? Maybe there are some preliminary versions?

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: BDRM 667

Lord , could you comment on the message of RIA Novosti about the terrorist attack on the tank biathlon of the DPR?

http://ria.ru/world/20150924/1279563311.html

"Post scriptum".

I see you have supplemented your comment with news about the terrorist attack.

Do you have any idea who might be involved? Maybe there are some preliminary versions?

I think those involved are those who are involved in writing at stops in Donetsk "Donbass tse Ukraine" - ordinary svidomo radishes ...

[siberalt]

Begging for a freebie is the favorite power of Outskirts.

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/598/blcc404.png

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Something like this usually happens ...

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: KGB WATCH YOU

Something like this usually happens ...

Who, and populists just to poke. You yourself have not yet tired, dear namesake?

[kotvov]

north.56,,
you know, but I have the impression that they showed us a finger.

[Karasik]

Quote: sever.56

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/598/blcc404.png

I don't understand why the article is "minus"? Isn't this helpful information? "Hey, aggressor! Give me a discount!" There were already similar analogies: "Hey, neighbor! Let me devour something, otherwise under the door you have us ... there is nothing!" How long will this insanity continue? !!!

[Good me]

Quote: Karasik

I don't understand why the article is "minus"? Isn't this helpful information?

"Minus" for the "lightning-fast reaction" of our government to give a discount ...

That's the whole solution.

[maiman61]

Do not drive bullshit! Gas on the cheap, electricity, coal, we all drive to Ukraine! Isn't it time to take care of your people? And Ukraine is far away!

[23 region]

Quote: maiman61

Do not drive bullshit! Gas on the cheap, electricity, coal, we all drive to Ukraine! Isn't it time to take care of your people? And Ukraine is far away!

Gas only for "brothers"!

Ukraine, let it not pay further. At the same time, as it should be, as the “scapegoats”, at whose expense the problem of non-payments will be solved, the least protected and disenfranchised part of society will be chosen - that is, ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation.

[RED_ICE]

Siluanov has already taken care of us. Starting next year, the retirement age will increase.

[Cat man null]

Quote: RED_ICE

Starting next year, the retirement age will increase

Oops .. I missed something in this life ..

Link to the law, please?

[vorobey]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: RED_ICE

Starting next year, the retirement age will increase

Oops .. I missed something in this life ..

Link to the law, please?

why such questions ... I heard from the corner of my ear I didn’t understand, but I fucked up ... I must share ... everything is bad ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: vorobey

I heard from the corner of my ear I didn’t understand but fucked up ... I must share ... everything is bad ...

Ahhh .. well then it’s clear ..

This song, about retirement age, is already three years old, as far as I remember ..

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Oops .. I missed something in this life ..

Link to the law, please?

While there are no adopted laws and references to them, there are only intentions and statements by Siluanov about "the need to revise the retirement age FOR ...".

And these "FOR", Siluanova, mercilessly "wets" the Pension Fund, other structures, arguing that no increase in fundraising, which Siluanov is hoping for, in this case will not happen ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: BDRM 667

While there are no adopted laws and references to them, there are only intentions and statements by Siluanov about "the need to revise the retirement age

Yes, I’m in the know .. It’s just that there a friend said so confidently

Quote: RED_ICE

Siluanov has already taken care of us. Starting next year, the retirement age will increase

that the sin was not to lighten slightly ..

And this song - about raising the retirement age - has been so several years already .. without much success so far, as we see

[Good me]

Quote: Cat Man Null

And this song - about raising the retirement age - has been so several years already .. without much success so far, as we see

And we see and hear, it is LJZh from Siluanov, who will only achieve that the people will be excited by nothing ...
Abused by our officials, the patience of our people ...

And they just "reconciled" to the release of Vasilyeva, they just "swallowed" Yakunin's salary, so they "bear" a new irritant on you ...

They play with fire ...

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Good Me

And they just "reconciled" to the release of Vasilyeva, they just "swallowed" Yakunin's salary, so they "bear" a new irritant on you ...

Well, firstly, no one reconciled
and secondly, I'm not vindictive, I just have a good memory.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: maiman61

Do not drive bullshit! Gas on the cheap, electricity, coal, we all drive to Ukraine! Isn't it time to take care of your people? And Ukraine is far away!

You had to think in August of 91, but the sausage turned out to be more important to you ..

[Yuyuka]

politics, you pimp ... "high ... high relations!" (c) pulled up with stories about how tariffs are growing there, "with them"

[APASUS]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

It’s not clear where does the cable and Gazprom come from?
The cable will lie until the end of the year.
But it’s really impossible to turn off the Crimea in the winter, Ukraine suffers from a shortage of energy and receives Russian energy and transfers part of it to the Crimea, balancing its problems a little.

[Cat man null]

Quote: APASUS

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

It’s not clear where does the cable and Gazprom come from?

Not a cable, of course .. as long as gas goes to the EU in Ukraine - everything will be .. and discounts, and cocoa with tea ..

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

in my opinion it’s cheaper to supply every house with a diesel generator

[RED_ICE]

The cable will soon fall. In our region, an electric power line is being actively built in the direction of kerchproliv.

[St Petrov]

there will be no problems when Russia builds another branch to the Germans.
Then everyone will get their full share. And the Poles and Latvians. all wash for their yapping


Crimea, he will not be in trouble. You don’t have to worry, I think this is understandable by the way the Russian Federation approached the issue of strengthening the region. The bridge is already visible from space

Khlopiteki really blackmail not only the Russian Federation, but also that Europe, which is powered by a pipe)
They are of course scumbags) There is something in this, people would not be killed yet - it would certainly be funnier

[Dmitry_24rus]

And the gas deliveries we signed for Europe on this route until 2019. It’s necessary .. A pity, B.L.

[varov14]

Someone holds GDP tight for eggs.

[vorobey]

Quote: varov14

Someone holds GDP tight for eggs.

your empty tongues hold ... and narrow-mindedness of thinking.

[Karabin]

Quote: varov14

for the eggs.

For the udder.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Karabin

For the udder.

Oil and gas?

[vorobey]

Quote: Karabin

Quote: varov14

for the eggs.

For the udder.

with osut in turn an udder ...

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Let the cable rest on Kiev.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Let the cable rest on Kiev.

On Kiev. Long ago it was necessary to put, and not a cable.

[Karabin]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

Until we push LDNR into dill, you have to give a discount
Until we recognize ourselves as an aggressor, we will have to give a discount
Until we return Crimea, we have to give a discount

[vorobey]

Quote: Karabin

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

Until we push LDNR into dill, you have to give a discount
Until we recognize ourselves as an aggressor, we will have to give a discount
Until we return Crimea, we have to give a discount

I don’t understand your logic ... but what if all this is done then we’ll stop giving discounts .. why this smart opus ..

[vorobey]

Alan, well, you at least clarify .. the essence .. put a minus and the essence did not clarify. Well, what is the logic of this statement .. popiz..t?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

What do we have, there is nothing to pin down these bugs that have dug in Ukraine ??? Don’t tell my rake in the country. We run on them constantly. First they get a spring discount, then an autumn one. A couple of corpses from the second echelon of Ukrainian lack of power to begin with - will reach the most stupid - and why did he die? A blood clot ... Well, it happens about three times a day in the second echelon. This is so, for example, otherwise why do we cook for 8-10 years? It is possible to economically strangle - yes, they will FOREVER forget Crimea.

[Karabin]

Quote: iliitch

We have nothing to crush these bugs,

There is something. Only no one.

[Loner_53]

Quote: Karabin

There is something. Only no one.

The most accurate definition If I may add, for those who could, the most important is powerful.

[dvina71]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

While the pipe goes to Europe through the territory of U, Crimea has nothing to do with it. SP2 will work and UP, but this is not earlier than 19g .., then then you can forget about 404. The European Commission is turning the hands of the GP, and Europe pays for gas for 404.

[EGOrkka]

.... agreed with evromey anyway she pay for gas.

[VadimSt]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

Interestingly, do you know the final price in comparison with the price for Europe? Or just to say ...

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree “On the rate of export customs duty for natural gas supplies from the territory of the Russian Federation to the territory of Ukraine”. This was announced on Thursday by the official website of the Cabinet.
“According to the decree, the price of gas for Ukraine is set at the level of gas prices for the countries of the European Union adjacent to Ukraine,” the statement said. The decision applies to legal relations that arose from 1 October 2015 years and are valid until 31 December 2015 years.

[Irokez]

Well type.
We then understand that the Russian troops are fighting with us, but still you are there, give us a discount for them, well, we are brothers Slavs.

[KGB WATCH YOU]

Mmm, now let's think about whether they will give a discount to those who staged a coup, the "bloody junta", "fascists", those who blockade Crimea, those who killed Russian citizens in the Rostov region in the summer of 2014, those who do not repay their debt, eh? Of course they will, because there is a lot of good.

Maybe we, as Russian citizens, also write to Gazprom and ask for a discount on gas?

[asadov]

and at the same time lower taxes and increase pensions with scholarships.
Or are we not people, and so, nothing compared to the new-timers?

[vadson]

and the inhabitants of the Crimea are not people? and can they be cut off from heat and electricity?
move your brain before scribbling something

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: vadson

move your brain before scribbling something

It would be something to move
I sometimes understand the Russophobes of Brzezinski and Kissinger - in Russia it is generally impossible to build a normal state, here it’s just sado-masochistic tendencies among the population

[vorobey]

Quote: Sukhoy_T-50

Quote: vadson

move your brain before scribbling something

It would be something to move
I sometimes understand the Russophobes of Brzezinski and Kissinger - in Russia it is generally impossible to build a normal state, here it’s just sado-masochistic tendencies among the population

I look at the comments and draw attention to the fact that the stuffing of such news is being actively prepared judging by how many commentators stick out right away from their slots that do not appear in other topics ... grunt about the eggs of GDP and who holds them, about betrayal and a better life for the people ... especially touches how this company in a friendly manner and on the topic minuses some and plus others ... narrow-minded .. but to calculate what the discount was before and which is offered now, and other news about debt restructuring is the same work .. better to waste it in vain. emotions pour out ..

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: vorobey

But to calculate what was the discount before and which is offered now,

That's it! Previously, they threw off 150-200 dollars, now it’s not a fact that 20 $ will be thrown off

[vorobey]

Quote: Sukhoy_T-50

Quote: vorobey

But to calculate what was the discount before and which is offered now,

That's it! Previously, they threw off 150-200 dollars, now it’s not a fact that 20 $ will be thrown off

I can’t find the link to the video I watched yesterday .. there the Ukrainian government is already openly warning that it is necessary to negotiate and decide now before the heating season begins ... otherwise if we (Russians) have time to extend the cable by this time, we (Ukraine) will have the Arctic fox .. .

and by the way for some reason the news that this egg Putin signed a decree on reducing energy tariffs for residents of the Far East does not cause such heated discussions ... it is not visible at all ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: vorobey

lower energy tariffs for residents of the Far East

I heard about the Decree, I'm waiting for the results.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: vorobey

and by the way for some reason the news that this egg Putin signed a decree on reducing energy tariffs for residents of the Far East does not cause such heated discussions ... it is not visible at all ...

Because this news is not so tasty, plusdrocheru there uncomfortable likes to recruit. Then everyone who disagrees with the line of society is quickly dipped into the skull.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Sukhoy_T-50

Quote: vadson

move your brain before scribbling something

It would be something to move
I sometimes understand the Russophobes of Brzezinski and Kissinger - in Russia it is generally impossible to build a normal state, here it’s just sado-masochistic tendencies among the population

But who will be the loonies of a NORMAL person who is in a psychiatric hospital?
A psycho, obviously. The question is in reference points. So they (reference points for normal ones) were given as far back as 2015 years ago, as many as ten ... I don't minus the poor. And the fact that all sorts of BZ and Kissy broadcast - so you look at their faces - no, not now - during the "flowering" period. Accumulated anger - to tear, gnaw, sting - just to shit. No, it's not constructive. We are going the other way.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: asadov

and at the same time lower taxes and increase pensions with scholarships.
Or are we not people, and so, nothing compared to the new-timers?

The Minister of Finance, who Siluyanov, tearfully asks deputies to raise their retirement age, because there is no denyuzhk in the budget, and oil, such a swill, does not think to rise in price, and you want to raise your pension. Dreaming.

[maiman61]

And Gazprom will send us, we are not "brothers" Ukrainians. Gas only for "brothers"!

[BDRM 667]

Quote: KGB WATCH YOU

Maybe we, as Russian citizens, also write to Gazprom and ask for a discount on gas?

To see IT again?

[Dembel77]

Only natural gas discount!

[ODERVIT]

Either they don’t finish something to us, or we’re idiots. I do not understand the actions of this government, it would be better if they were silent in a rag.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: ODERVIT

they don’t say something to us

[huut]

Quote: ODERVIT

either we are boobies

[Sling cutter]

Quote: ODERVIT

or we are boobies.

[vit]

I would never be a politician ... because I personally wouldn’t give a discount for Kuev, I would also wind up to the maximum! frankly upset the news.

[Kirill]

Very similar to the behavior of the USSR in 39-41. We also traded with Hitler !?

[23 region]

Quote: kirill

Very similar to the behavior of the USSR in 39-41. We also traded with Hitler !?

Not certainly in that way. With Hitler - traded. And to Ukraine - give.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: Region 23

With Hitler-traded.

And was there a choice? Without Germany, they would not have carried out industrialization, then judge for yourself

[23 region]

Quote: Sukhoy_T-50

Quote: Region 23

With Hitler-traded.

And was there a choice? Without Germany, they would not have carried out industrialization, then judge for yourself

It's like that.

[vorobey]

Quote: 23 region

Quote: kirill

Very similar to the behavior of the USSR in 39-41. We also traded with Hitler !?

Not certainly in that way. With Hitler - traded. And to Ukraine - give.

if we don’t get the money, then donate? iron logic ... Kuban ..

[23 region]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: 23 region

Quote: kirill

Very similar to the behavior of the USSR in 39-41. We also traded with Hitler !?

Not certainly in that way. With Hitler - traded. And to Ukraine - give.

if we don’t get the money, then donate? iron logic ... Kuban ..

TO GIVE, to give what to whom, or to whom by what; give forever free, give free, bring a gift, give a gift. (Dahl dictionary)
Well yes. If we give in the Kuban, we don’t get money for it. This is such a strange logic.
Campaign we live in different Kuban.

[vorobey]

Quote: Region 23

Well yes. If we give in the Kuban, we don’t get money for it. This is such a strange logic.
Campaign we live in different Kuban.

Apparently at different ... we have reasonably accepted to respond and not cherish Dahl ..

really want to hear .. what we give to Ukraine ...

[23 region]

Quote: vorobey

really want to hear .. what we give to Ukraine ...

Russian assistance to Ukraine for the entire post-Soviet period amounted to $ 250 billion. This was stated by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. “You, Vladimir Volfovich (Zhirinovsky), spoke about Ukraine. The figure you named, about $ 250 billion, is fair. This is the amount of support that we have provided to our Ukrainian friends and brothers through all sorts of preferences in the entire post-Soviet history, including non-market terms for gas trade, ”Medvedev said.

[vorobey]

Quote: 23 region

Quote: vorobey

really want to hear .. what we give to Ukraine ...

Russian assistance to Ukraine for the entire post-Soviet period amounted to $ 250 billion. This was stated by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. “You, Vladimir Volfovich (Zhirinovsky), spoke about Ukraine. The figure you named, about $ 250 billion, is fair. This is the amount of support that we have provided to our Ukrainian friends and brothers through all sorts of preferences in the entire post-Soviet history, including non-market terms for gas trade, ”Medvedev said.

Logically .. only until recently did helicopters fly on their engines, did they deliver wheelsets for the train, and much more - mutual gifts? so what was bad?

[AdekvatNICK]

until we have achieved full autonomy of the Crimea there will be such discounts, so for now we tolerate.

[vadson]

the only sound commentary on the article, plus you

[Igor39]

How could proud Ukrainians have damned mo.ska.lei. Aggressors ask for a discount on gas?

[ssn18]

all the same, I didn’t finish a bit, they ask for a discount from the aggressor country. It would be interesting to see how Aloizych asked for a discount from Vissarionych.

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: ssn18

. That would be interesting to see how Aloizych asked for a discount from Vissarionych

Not a discount, but a freebie. And he did not beg, but received on the basis of the barrier "raw materials-machines / factories / equipment / specialists". Until he decided to attack the USSR
PS To the Stalinists I propose to compare the standard of living and the industrial potential of Germany and the Russian Federation. That’s for sure, a planned economy is the most eco-friendly economy!

[fa2998]

Well, it has begun again! Gazprom will think and give it! Of course, the "brotherly people" are in a "difficult situation". And the Russians will increase tariffs again. We have nowhere to go, if you don’t pay, they will cut it off! from the transit pipe.

[vadson]

what started it did not end. the discount for the ruins will remain autonomous in terms of energy in the Crimea. But at the expense of the leadership - turn on the brain, we live in a capitalist world, the leadership of Gasprom so simply took and refused money and provided a discount? Of course with a push from above, why? Crimea can not be left to their own devices. it will be independent of Crimea all discounts will be cut off at the root because money is so simple in such quantities do not forgive

[23 region]

Quote: vadson

But at the expense of the leadership - turn on the brain, we live in a capitalist world, the leadership of Gasprom so simply took and refused money and provided a discount? of course with a push from above,

It was no coincidence that Yevgeny Yasin called Gazprom a “government purse.”

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Region 23

It was no coincidence that Yevgeny Yasin called Gazprom a “government purse.”

51% "government wallet" and some others, but whose wallet is another 49%?
So who owns Gazprom?
I can say one thing-- not for the people, for sure!

[23 region]

Quote: Stroporez

Quote: Region 23

It was no coincidence that Yevgeny Yasin called Gazprom a “government purse.”

51% "government wallet" and some others, but whose wallet is another 49%?
So who owns Gazprom?
I can say one thing-- not for the people, for sure!

Gazprom is the national treasure of Russia "
In 2005, the state managed to gain complete control over Gazprom — through the repurchase of about 11 percent of the monopoly’s shares from its subsidiaries. However, according to a number of experts, the Kremlin’s widely publicized victory in the war of “shared alignments” was nothing more than a well-planned public relations campaign designed to calm the people. Like, everything is in order - the "national treasure" is in good hands. After scrupulous calculations, economists found that the state owns a maximum of 40 percent of the company.
The official list of Gazprom’s foreign owners includes E.ON Ruhrgas, Germany’s largest gas distributor (controls 6,5 percent of the Russian monopoly’s shares), customers of the German Deutsche Bank (more than 3 percent of the shares) and the Swedish Vostok Nafta fund (1,3 percent) ) The remaining 13-14 percent, apparently, settled in the United States - specifically in the Bank of New York, acting in the interests of the US Department of the Treasury. How and when this happened is unknown.
According to various estimates, foreign investors were able to obtain direct or indirect (through shell companies) access to Gazprom’s assets. Gradually, they managed to increase their share in the company to about 25 percent.
http://www.specletter.com/corruption/2009-09-09/krestnyi-otets-gazprom.html

[Sling cutter]

23 region.
Hello
I had no doubt at all.
The thing is that the situation with "myasgaz" is very indicative, it is an example of who now really owns all the natural resources of our country.
here are Deebirs diamonds and shared shelves on the Far East and rare earths, etc., etc.
but it’s impossible to explain it to the goofs, they have hpp and krymyanyashnyash ....

[23 region]

Quote: Stroporez

I didn’t even have any doubts. The point is that the situation with "myasgaz" is very indicative, this is an example of who now really owns all the natural resources of our country. Here are Debeers diamonds and share shelves in the Far East and rare earths, etc. and so on.

Well, I’ll add.
NAFTA-MOSCOW, Cyprus company (guess for what and by whom it was created) - 5,3%
NAFTA-EAST, the fund, again, it’s not even worth explaining by whom it was created, - 1,5%
INTECO (yes, Madame Baturina) - 1%
The remaining 5,5% is sprayed with each other, i.e. on the milk to your loved ones.
By the way, why exactly 25% were transferred to “our American partners”?
And because with 25 percent comes the “announcement” of shares, i.e. the owner of these 25% can hack decisions made by the Company.

[Kuzyakin15]

Vadson:
Come on, like a woodpecker, to cover up the failed policy of the government and the genocide of your population, hiding behind the care of Crimea. There is an abundance of gas in Crimea, according to the head of Crimea. And as for the cable, something that our rulers did not move beams at all for a year and a half.
Most likely, kickbacks and cuts again. And we will be away for discounts.

[vadson]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

Vadson:
Come on, like a woodpecker, to cover up the failed policy of the government and the genocide of your population, hiding behind the care of Crimea. There is an abundance of gas in Crimea, according to the head of Crimea. And as for the cable, something that our rulers did not move beams at all for a year and a half.
Most likely, kickbacks and cuts again. And we will be away for discounts.

especially for you as a "woodpecker" for the anti-woodpecker, I will give the comment below:
However ... Have you at least somewhere somewhere faced with issues of energy supply, well, at least, say, the factory floor? And here is a huge territory with 2 million people! And with the darkness of energy-consuming objects, critical to its shortage! Do you know what a Project is? Have you encountered the problem of contracts with land users? And with the examinations of RTN, Ministry of Ecology, Ministry of Culture, etc.? In my opinion, the introduction of the energy bridge this year, compare the feat. To power engineers and builders - a low bow.
and this is not my opinion, However ...
But at the expense of the government, do I defend it? or say that this couple in tandem is good? I’d have my will, I would put Glazyev or the analogue of Primakov as the head of government, but alas, here I am powerless
at the expense of the genocide of the population of the Russian Federation, do you remember the nineties? the middle? or even walked under the table? then the situation of the people could be called genocide.

[TanakaKenshin]

Personally, I came across this one ... Zverka. Four years ago (+/-) I participated in the design of a substation near Kingisep and power lines around the city.
Expertise, geo-base, cadastral plans, selective math in the direction of an office hired from one place (transferring the plan of existing facilities to electronic form) from Riga and, as a final, a run from Elektrozavodskaya to Leningradsky Train Station with two boxes of documentation in 10-12 minutes to be given to the chief engineer these boxes before the train departs. The total design period is one and a half years.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: vadson

the discount for the ruins will remain autonomous in terms of energy in the Crimea.

I will join your opinion. I will only add from myself that the higher the price of gas is, the higher will be the payment for transit through Ukraine. You can even throw 100 bucks on top, Ukrainians will beat off their transit duties. There is no alternative route for gas transit to Europe. And, if he does not appear in the near future, then we will have to endure this state of affairs until 2019. until valid delivery contracts expire. When they expire, then a completely different conversation will begin with Ukrainians. (if by that time they still remain in the status of a state). And with Geyropa, too. They will have to remember everything.
PS I’m not vindictive, it’s a shame for me for the Power.

[twincam]

Yes they are fucked up !!!
they blocked roads in Crimea, they demand 50 yards of compensation, they are not going to give back public debt (they’ve supposedly been restructured).
and a winter discount on gas - yes easy!

suck, cunningly * opy.

[IAlex]

Excellent, the most important thing is that they do not forget to give a discount, otherwise it turned out today purely by chance that the state revoked the licenses from NPFs and left only 29 "their" offices incl. everyone is looking for their funded part of the pension themselves, like in a country of fools somewhere in the endless fields of our homeland, and those who will not find , by default, from 2016 they will lose the funded part and will remain only with the insurance . But can you imagine how much money Khokhlostan will have for the discount, we can also do the summer, the runway for the American Nazis at our expense doesn’t feel sorry for anything ...

[mamont5]

Quote: Irokez

Well type.
We then understand that the Russian troops are fighting with us, but still you are there, give us a discount for them, well, we are brothers Slavs.

No, the Ukrainians will not mention "Russian troops" at the meeting (this is for mass consumption), and there they will laugh at such things.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

You don’t want horseradish, comrades dill?

[Kuzyakin15]

We get horseradish from the native government, and dill discount.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

We get horseradish from the native government, and dill discount

- price for gas within the Russian Federation for the population - from 70 to 90 raccoons for 1000 cubic meters.
- gas price for Ukraine (at a discount) - 232 (?) raccoon for 1000 cubic meters. It’s more expensive for the population, there is still a wrap there, intra-Ukrainian ..
- price for gas for the EU .. damn it, even more (there are no discounts)


Kuzyakin, what discount do you still have?

Have a conscience

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Kuzyakin, what discount do you still have?

+

[dima-fesko]

The rich Russian language does not allow me to comprehensively comment on this news on the site .......

[Vladimirets]

Quote: dima-fesko

The rich Russian language does not allow me to comprehensively comment on this news .......

Language allows me, moderators - no.

[dima-fesko]

So moderators will not allow me!

[Dry_T-50]

You, apparently, a provocateur. In an emergency
And yes, I ask moderators to look at this subject

[vorobey]

Quote: Sukhoy_T-50

You, apparently, a provocateur. In an emergency
And yes, I ask moderators to look at this subject

taking a closer look ... and you too ...

[79807420129]

I don’t understand this government, it’s good for the enemies (namely the hostile government of the junta) to give a discount, and they don’t give a damn about their people, that iPhone, Shuvalov, Dvorkovich and other liberal cattle would leave. To our friends to the west. That's it we agree to tolerate for the sake of Crimea And these cattle. We only dishonor us. I am ashamed of such a government, as if they did not give a damn.

[23 region]

Quote: 79807420129

.I am ashamed of such a government, as if they spat on me.

Said A, speak B.
The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Deputy Prime Ministers of the Russian Federation and federal ministers are appointed and dismissed by the President of the Russian Federation on the proposal of the Prime Minister of the Russian Federation.
Oh yes! The king is good, but the boyars ...

[vorobey]

Quote: Region 23

The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation is appointed by the President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the procedure established by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

Do you know this order? appoints by personal decision? then you’re moaning Krasnodar ... people from all over the country rushing to the Kuban as in the richest region ... have you stopped grabbing something?

[23 region]

Quote: vorobey

then you’re moaning Krasnodar ... people from all over the country rushing to the Kuban as in the richest region ... have you stopped grabbing anything?

I have enough. It's a shame for the POWER!

[Karabin]

Quote: 79807420129

let this iPhone-carrier, Shuvalov, dvorkovich and other liberal cattle leave.

And what do you want to do with the "good tsar"? Following the "boyars"? Or is he again nothing to do with? Probably he was very busy talking with Elton John, apologized to the bugger for the pranksters' tricks and made an appointment. Not to discounts, shmidok.

[evil partisan]

If this winter is not even harsh, but at least just ordinary, then Ukraine will not save any gas discounts . But coal can be sold to them at the price of marbled beef.

[family tree]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

here they can sell coal at the price of marbled beef. yes

After all, they will buy it, on credit and not pay, they will say that due to the flight of Russian satellites over Kiev, il for the fact that we have been undoing them with a Ukrainian Russian mobile for a thousand years

[evil partisan]

Quote: perepilka

and will not pay

Schazzzz.
The GDP no longer intends to release them anything for free.

Quote: perepilka

due to the flight of Russian satellites over Kiev

Vova. If we take them for a sunrise, then ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

If we take them for a sunrise, then ...

then over time they will do sunset manually ..... , actually it has already come ...

[evil partisan]

Quote: Tersky

then over time they will do sunset manually .....

Handbrake ...

[Tersky]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Handbrake ...

not only rear-wheel drive ..

[Yura]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Handbrake ..

Masturbators? Fu, dirty tricks .

[evil partisan]

Quote: Jura

Fu, dirty tricks

Finally

[Karabin]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

then Ukraine will not save any gas discounts

As the past was not saved, the present will not be saved

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

But coal can be sold to them at the price of marbled beef.

Roll up your lip, sweetie. Separate discounts are being prepared for coal and electricity for "partner brothers".

[vovanpain]

You could + comrade and would put more especially for individual discounts

[31rus]

And what about Crimea? Based on this logic, Yatsenyuk turns out well done, he didn’t buy gas in the summer (and why there will be a discount in winter), and we have a government of suckers, they still cannot organize the energy security of Crimea

[Cat man null]

Quote: 31rus

and we have a government of suckers, they still can’t organize the energy security of Crimea

Um .. I don’t know what your government is there, but:

- Generators in the Crimea dragged back in the spring. A third of power consumption, if suddenly something - can be provided with generators
- the energy bridge (or, more simply, the cable is o..big, already at 300 MW, EMNIP, along the bottom of the strait) will be put into operation in November this year. This is the first turn.
- the second phase will be introduced in the 1 quarter of 2016

With the commissioning of the second stage, the need for electricity from Ukraine in Crimea will practically disappear (there are 2 more CHPPs under construction, "shob bulo", but it is not a quick matter - in my opinion, in 2018, reaching the design capacity).

Something like that..

[vadson]

Until November, and at least until December, the Crimeans still need to live in, they’re fooling around, they have time, in general they will have fun in December, if you read the article carefully, it says that the discount is provided quarterly, what do we have in December? new year on the nose? no, wrong. energy bridge and payment of 3 lards of ever-dead condoms. hence from January 1 - I won’t have a discount!

[IAlex]

Did you personally see this, or did your trusted agent see it? Or did you just read and hear somewhere? If the second, then I must upset you, because we were hung up on our ears about the fact that the railway troops began the construction of the railway bypassing Khokhlostan in May, and the construction order was signed only the day before yesterday :)))

Incl. there is complete confidence that there will be thermal power plants after breakfast, there will be enough generators only for banks, the administration and the army. And the power line will be laid for a long time ... Well, actually, in January the third year will go, but there are no thermal power plants, no cables, no generators, but tomorrow they will be, and it is "tomorrow tomorrow" ...

[Vadim237]

At the expense of the bypass railway, this is not noodles, but the preparation of the canvas for the railway will be built on time.

[Cat man null]

Quote: IAlex

you just read somewhere

Naturally .. I can even say - where:

Quote: http://ria.ru/economy/20150913/1248727055.html

Work on the construction of an energy bridge to the Crimea from the Krasnodar Territory, including cable laying along the bottom of the Kerch Strait, is in full swing and according to the schedule, Crimean Fuel and Energy Minister Sergei Egorov told RIA Novosti.
"The work has begun and is proceeding according to the schedule. Work is being carried out both from the Krasnodar Territory and across the Crimea. In particular, we are working on the construction of a sea cable crossing point and an overhead line in the Kerch region, 220 kilowatt overhead lines are being built, and reconstruction is underway. substation in the Kerch region and the Kafa substation is being built in the Feodosia region, "Yegorov said

That is - the minister is lying, right?

Quote: IAlex

Incl. there is complete confidence that there will be thermal power plants after breakfast, there will be enough generators only for banks, the administration and the army. And the power line will be laid for a long time ... Well, actually, in January the third year will go, but there are no thermal power plants, no cables, no generators, but tomorrow they will be, and it is "tomorrow tomorrow" ...

Excuse me .. "Crimean woman, officer's daughter"?

Quote: IAlex

the construction order was signed only the day before yesterday

Give a reference, please ..

[IAlex]

That is - the minister is lying, right?

Are you from kindergarten?
You open what ministers, officials and the president say a year or more ago and compare with what is now. I propose to start with the campaign slogans of GDP

Give a reference, please ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbWz_Gqlq0
Here is a reference for you, and so that the patriots do not bother with the number of letters, I even gave a reference to the video player ...

[Cat man null]

Quote: IAlex

You open what ministers, officials and the president say a year or more ago and compare with what is now. I propose to start with the campaign slogans of GDP

Fuck with a finger do not confuse, yes ..

There above - the minister's report on the work done, practically. And not "pre-election slogans" at all, here you can get the horns of a lie ..

Here, "news from the field", for example, if you do not believe the minister:

Quote: RED_ICE

The cable will soon fall. We are actively building a power line in the region towards Kerch

Quote: IAlex

Here is a reference

Wonderful, thanks. But this is already the actual laying of the path and there will be another .. strapping.

What they did before is this:

Quote: http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150822/1200742974.html

KONSTANTINOVKA (Voronezh region), 22 Aug - RIA Novosti. Russian railway troops have so far completed more than 60% of excavation work on the construction of the Zhuravka-Millerovo railway section bypassing the territory of Ukraine, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation General Dmitry Bulgakov told reporters, who arrived for the fifth time on a working trip to the Voronezh region to monitor the progress of road construction

That is - earthwork is completed, you can lay out the rails.

Something like this..

[IAlex]

You put the finger there back from where it was taken out, otherwise it just started pouring, which can not be stopped.

There was a site putin2012.ru (and in a strange way it doesn’t work now) with its slogans, if you want, you will find links from it on the Internet yourself.

So, I 100% remember how it was promised:
1. Support small business. 400.000 entrepreneurs lost their business.
2. Development of private business in housing and communal services. Besides even more corruption, it is not visible.
3. Lied about getting rid of debt dependence, she is now under 500 billion. $
4. songs about decent salaries and pensions. The comical situation was a living wage of 5000 rubles - $ 130, all goods are imported in bucks, now a living wage of 5000 rubles - $ 80, i.e. we have a living wage that was not a living wage but much higher as the middle class is.
5. Human health is everything. Noticeably, he reduced 40.000 doctors, the time of admission, the time of procedures and hospital stay. Only cares about health.
6. Aims of 25 million IT specialists. Well, he succeeded with the experts, it is a pity that they only serve, not produce.
7. And how he threw the newfangled words "modernization". So he modernized that now only everyone is looking at the price of oil.
8. Something about innovation has stopped singing. Oh yes, the Skolkovo project, and all other innovative territories have already become the locomotives of the country's development. It’s a pity that there are still disposal tanks in the sump ...
9. Fair tax policy. All who steal are amnesty. Those who took money offshore are amnesty. Everyone who steals government money instead of a term is a fine. And most importantly, those who produce taxes are the same as those who sell.
10. And how is labor in the village appreciated? They only appreciate it, thinking about how to warm up the bread producers with the ruble falling, to buy cheaper and immediately drive it to the external market for money, because money is needed, and officials have already let in loans for village development through their banks.
11. Development of roads - oh yes, they develop it only from morning to evening and develop, I can’t sleep, I’m just thinking about them, how can I develop it so that I’ve got more grandmas myself. Having left the highway, you get to the moon. And you pay a double transport tax: 1. From gasoline, 2. The annual one from the power that Kudrin shouted that it would be canceled, but then they thought in the Duma and decided that it fills someone’s pocket well, why cancel it. And they were so preoccupied with the roads that the State Autodor manages to make free roads toll and service them at the treasury expense, while these roads are paid both from the taxes of those who do not have a car and from the transport tax.
12. He ensured that the authorities were truly accountable to the community for which it worked. It's a pity he forgot to specify which society ...
13. All major bills and decisions are mandatory through public discussion with the participation of interested parties. It is only a pity that citizens were not assigned to interested parties, but are using the opinion of anonymous experts, just like a group for treatment. You should not go far for an example, the law on the rights to category A, which now requires training as a professional truck driver, including a section on towing a vehicle. Talking about bribery is not even worth it.

And what is this photo at the end? The construction of the great ram of the egg? For an adequate person understands:
1. That excavators do not spill soil.
2. Trucks are clearly taking it out.
3. Railways are built on embankments above ground level, not lower.

[Cat man null]

Quote: IAlex

(!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Tpruuu ...

- we discussed two things: the cable to the Crimea (lepezdric) and the railway Zhuravka-Millerovo bypassing Ukria
- about the cable, you said that it would be "long" .. I showed you that it is not; the first cable will be delivered at the end of 2015, the second - in the first quarter of 2016
- about the railway - you said that it was "only yesterday signed an order to build." I report: not to build, but to lay the path. Before that, they fought with the terrain and won ..

Questions, objections, additions?

And for some reason you were blown away for election promises and other crap - how to live poorly in Russia ..

Yes, I do not care about all this, saliva. I know all this without you, believe me - I live here myself. I’ve been living for a long time, I'm used to it already.

And even more so, as far as the subject of discussion is all this, well, it’s simply no sideways.

For me, the question is closed. Take care of the nerves, they are not restored

[Cat man null]

Quote: IAlex

And what is this photo at the end? The construction of the great ram of the egg?

Mdya .. you need to drink less, and include brains more ..

"The photo below" - from the same Zhuravka-Millerovo bypass. Have you ever seen how a piece of iron is built? Themselves - never built?

And here I was building, estimate

Quote: IAlex

Railways build on embankments above ground level, not lower

Not always so. And also - I’ll tell you a terrible secret - there are people on the railway tunnels

Only - shhhh !! Nothing!

[vorobey]

Quote: IAlex

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbWz_Gqlq0
Here is a reference for you, and so that the patriots do not bother with the number of letters, I even gave a reference to the video player ...

I trust my eyes more than Vidosos from YouTube ... several times already wrote how actively power lines are laid in the Crimea throughout the peninsula ... and for a year and a half after work, Crimea traveled all over and across ...

[evil partisan]

Quote: 31rus

we have a government of suckers, they still can’t organize the energy security of Crimea

But ... Have you at least somehow somewhere faced with the issues of energy supply, well, at least, say, the factory floor? And here is a huge territory with 2 million people! And with the darkness of energy-consuming objects, critical to its shortage! Do you know what a Project is? Have you encountered the problem of contracts with land users? And with the examinations of RTN, Ministry of Ecology, Ministry of Culture, etc.? In my opinion, the introduction of the energy bridge this year, compare the feat. To power engineers and builders - a low bow.

[BDRM 667]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Have you encountered the problem of contracts with land users? And with the examinations of RTN, Ministry of Ecology, Ministry of Culture, etc.?

And who is to blame for the fact that we ourselves "abolished" the USSR, torn the country apart, introduced the factor of the prevalence of the private over the state, and produced "RTN, the Ministry of Ecology, the Ministry of Culture", with a huge bureaucratic apparatus, to whom - "Give, Give, Give!"

I wonder how many "approvals" were passed for the construction of Baikonur, BAM, the Druzhba, Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipelines?

[vorobey]

Quote: BDRM 667

And who is to blame for the fact that we ourselves "abolished" the USSR, torn the country apart, introduced the factor of the prevalence of the private over the state, and produced "RTN, the Ministry of Ecology, the Ministry of Culture", with a huge bureaucratic apparatus, to whom - "Give, Give, Give!"

interesting logic ... we all pissed off the country but in the end one is to blame ...

[BDRM 667]

Quote: vorobey

interesting logic... we all pissed off the country, but in the end one is to blame ...

What do you cling to everyone with logic, which you invented?

Quote: vorobey

Alan, well, you at least clarify .. the essence .. put a minus and the essence did not clarify. Well what is the logic of this statement .. popiz..t?

Quote: vorobey

I don’t understand your logic... and what if we do all this then we stop giving discounts .. why this smart opus ..

And where did you see, in my comment, that I blame ONE for something?

[tissot72]

And will there be a discount on gas for this winter period to Russian citizens - the elderly, who are retired from the claims of communal services by a pension of 9000 rubles ??? They would be even 5% would be happy to tears. And do these gentlemen, the same Minister Novak, think that in the evening, having dinner in the center of Moscow, in a restaurant, and having given a dozen, that he had just given a monthly pension to an ordinary RUSSIAN pensioner. Probably not, there they will not send it on a platinum card that the balance of 200 rubles and your loan payment before 01/10/2015 will amount to 7000 rubles, and the loan was taken to the child’s stroller ???

[Tor5]

Cable, cable is needed in the Crimea! While it is not - blackmail will continue.
... and what you write is far from news, alas.

[IAlex]

Will retire you 85% satisfied? If not, then this is not their problem ...

[sledge]

Everything as usual

[Vasisualiy]

Promptly prepared a discount! Well, gentlemen, neoliberals, they would take care of old pensioners, people with disabilities, and medicine in general.
I can not name them in any other way, except for people with non-traditional sexual orientation.

[moskowit]

They have a discount, and we have an increase in the retirement age and unfortunate retirees a decrease in inflation compensation ... Thank you from the bottom of our hearts ...
Once again, they prove themselves, and the PEOPLE will somehow live. He is accustomed to ... "If only there was no war ..."

[Vadim237]

We have a part of people and after retirement they continue to work and earn extra money.

[KRIG55]

It is very sad that after all the spitting in the face from Ukraine. we are forced to make such concessions, and they are becoming more and more heated with impunity.

[mihasik]

Novak did not provide the details of the request to the Ukrainian company, but he said that the Russian government had already prepared a draft resolution on giving Ukraine a discount on gas.

About how!
And Mr. Siluanov squeals everywhere that there is not enough money for pensioners and that the retirement age must be urgently raised. So maybe Mr. Antosha Siluanov will ask Mr. Shurik Novak where the pension money is going? Or do they live in different countries?
I can’t understand one thing: the Government of the Russian Federation, headed by Dimusey the teacher, has left the coils altogether !?

[Vadim237]

There is not enough money because now the financial situation in the country is not the best, tax revenues have become much less, and as for the discount, most likely there will not be any 20 dollar discount on gas for Ukraine.

[mihasik]

Quote: Vadim237

as for the discount, most likely there will not be any 20 dollar gas discount for Ukraine.

All the previous years, not even years, but already quarters, "most likely" worked just to provide all kinds of discounts not for the "people" of Ukraine, as Putin likes to say, but for the Ukrainian authorities. Or is Naftogaz a national enterprise? So what should the world flip over for your "most likely" to work in the opposite direction?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Vadim237

There is not enough money because now the financial situation in the country is not the best. Tax revenues have become much less.

What kind of tax are these?
Do you have canceled VAT or income?
It's just that our "fat rooks" want to steadily increase their income.
and Vanya let the girdle on his throat tighten until his eyes come out of his sockets so that the duroscope can be seen better.

[Vadim237]

Well, you, of course, we have not canceled VAT and income tax - that's just not all of them pay.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Vadim237

Well, you, of course, we have not canceled VAT and income tax - that's just not all of them pay.

The tax revenues for the first half of the year just rose relative to 2014.
But you are probably talking about this.
and here the state is already to blame.

[serzh savchenko]

A typical example of absolutely unnecessary misinformation to anyone. The official website of Mnenergo of Russia is missing information, which is reflected in the RIA. Quote: He (Novak) also added that Naftogaz of Ukraine had already asked Gazprom for a discount, refusing to give details and advising him to contact Gazprom for an explanation of this issue.



In the cult series "Liquidation", episode 2, David Markovich threw Fima-poluzhida: SHO, are you encrypting Fima?
Funny gentlemen!

[Kuzyakin15]

Look in the news "Russia24", and on other channels. The discount can be about 20baksov. The cost of a thousand cubic meters can be about 236 amerovsky rubles.
That's it!

[vorobey]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

maybe

Quote: Kuzyakin15

maybe

Quote: Kuzyakin15

maybe

keyword ... nobody has provided it yet ...

[mihasik]

Quote: Kuzyakin15

Look in the news "Russia24", and on other channels. The discount can be about 20baksov. The cost of a thousand cubic meters can be about 236 amerovsky rubles.
That's it!

Gazprom steers !!!) Ukraine's dreams come true!

[duschman80-81]

Muddy things are happening with this gas .... One question is why in Russia they do not make their own discounts, but only increase them?

[mihasik]

Quote: duschman80-81

Muddy things are happening with this gas .... One question is why in Russia they do not make their own discounts, but only increase them?

Because Banderland lower. What is incomprehensible here.
The theory of combining vessels: if somewhere has arrived, it means exactly the same number somewhere has disappeared.

[samarin1969]

[quote = KGB WATCH YOU] OFFTOP
Instead of fighting for their territory and for Novorossiya, they are engaged in xy..y, like "tank biathlon" and participate in the Minsk circus .... "

These would be fundamentally true words from the Duma tribune ... while our Foreign Ministry, State Duma, and the AP have not said anything intelligible over the past year and a half

[pirate]

I think there are two points: first, there are still a lot of Russians in Ukraine, and "Russians are not abandoning their own"; second (and most important) - politics, which is far from the most respected, decides everything. It took, in a multi-walker, to give them a discount - they gave them. World Chess Championship, damn it!

[Karabin]

Quote: pirate

It took a multi-way ...

Already becomes a joke.

Quote: pirate

World Chess Championship, damn it!

If you lost a piece on the board, this does not always mean that you “sacrificed” to improve your position. More often, a banally weak play leads to the loss of pieces. But in political chess, even a weak player like Putin and Co. can seem like grandmasters. The fact is that we have "figures" to hell, several sets have already been "donated". Hurray for the four horses club.

[demo]

I propose to register on the website of the Government of the Russian Federation the initiative to create a "Ministry for the provision of discounts and preferences to Ukraine".
A candidate for a ministerial post can be selected from among "our" liberals.

[North]

So write. Ukraine heeehheh. We did not dare to refuse. Remember shouted toast generators Bosi. Now I think I’m going to get the whole discount for males and water, and I could provide electricity with tanks, there’s no question about eating and dressing, let's look at the formidable one and make a conclusion which region needs more money today

[Vadim12]

So far, Ukraine is holding us tightly to I. ya., But not for long. Crimea will soon be independent not only politically and economically, but also water-electrically

[mihasik]

Quote: Vadim12

So far, Ukraine is holding us tightly to I. ya., But not for long

But they did not ask why we are constantly held by the testicles, and we are making concessions and not vice versa?

[Karabin]

Quote: Vadim12

So far, Ukraine is holding us tight for ya.

We have eggs!

[sv68]

Yes, the whole thing is simply not our government, nor our central bank, that is why they are trying their American grandmothers while laughing insolently in the face. As long as the guarantor's anti-ethnic Bandera gang will be a "brotherly people" they will wipe their feet about us. With this government we will and we won't budge the economy in a hundred years.

[Karabin]

Quote: sv68

and the whole thing is simply not our guarantee, nor is our central bank

Is our president?

[mihasik]

Quote: Karabin

Quote: sv68

and the whole thing is simply not our guarantee, nor is our central bank

Is our president?

Our President. Only he does not give up "his" people and does not change his "horses" on the crossing. That's just where the board with such "horses" is, a question. Now, like in Krylov's fable about a swan, crayfish and pike.

[serezhasoldatow]

In the morning I get up and think that I have not done it for Ukraine yet? Yeltsin, pah-Novak

[Dry_T-50]

Quote: serezhasoldatow

In the morning I get up and think that I have not done it for Ukraine yet? Yeltsin, pah-Novak

Nothing yet

[Erg]

Once again, I am convinced of the wisdom of our policy. Evil investigator (West), good investigator (Russia). It's the right way. Minds roll over 180. Time. Need time...

[proletarian]

"eccentric" with the letter M, in such "layouts" Russia will be "milked" to the last, until the people "howl" and then look and "Maidan" will bungle so dear do not flatter yourself if the leadership of the Russian Federation does not stop "playing" giveaway "then by the time it will be necessary to give a" last battle "he simply will not have any resources or support from the people.
If I'm wrong, "beckon".

[Erg]

Do not drift, Kapustin. Everything will be a bunch. Everything that is fast (your wife didn’t tell you?) Is bad. Look a little further, like Vladimirovich. But he never screwed up. And he gave reason to be proud of Russia not only for us, but also for many foreigners. What are you capable of? Only insulting associates? Come on - even. Believe in Russia, and everything will turn out!

[proletarian]

Guys, I'm not a Russian, just when the wired Internet is "cut down" I have to switch to "mobile" and I become a "Moskvich", so call ale "bananas" in us; but seriously, I am personally frankly happy when I am considered a Russian, whom I am unlikely to become; as they say: Where was born there and ... you sip, so all the best to you respected.

[Karabin]

Quote: Erg

Once again, I am convinced of the wisdom of our policy.

Well, once you are convinced, can you list a few salaries with a discount? And if every "multi-pass" does it? What do you want?

[Erg]

How long does it take a person to understand that not everything is measured by money? The smart is much less than the other ...

[msm]

Well well. Gilyaki sharpened sharpened? Lubricated with grease? Well, then you will have a discount ...

[Dry_T-50]

Low discount (by the way, have not yet provided) after all, they used to give up half the price
And yes, the loss of the extra dollars from the 20 economy of Ukraine will not die, no matter how much the whiners-populists

[MAXUZZZ]

I don’t know how true this is, but if it’s true, then it already looks like a spit, if not in person, then in our direction, for sure - they are not going to give public debt, but please give me a discount.

[Karabin]

Quote: MAXUZZZ

then it already looks like a spit if not in the face then in our direction for sure

In our direction !? Yes, we already have all the erysipelas in spit, starting with the pool and the embassy, ​​ending with Minsk gatherings. Just do not want to notice.

[kunstkammer]

a strange situation nevertheless has arisen: Ukrainian fascists yell that they are at war with Russia, kill Russian people in the Donbas and do not hesitate to proclaim the Russian people as their enemy ... and at that time the Russian government pleases these fierce enemies of our Fatherland. Are Russians sitting in this government of ours? Putin, where are you looking? Medvedev, whose will you be?

[iouris]

Kiev dictates the price to Gazprom as a winner. So maybe McCain is right?

[RUSIVAN]

The head of the RF Ministry of Energy said that Naftogaz had turned to Gazprom for a "winter" discount on gas.
Or maybe they should not supply gas in the pipes but let them down to the sump, which country is such a product.

[sds87]

The oligarchs will not miss. Ukram -20% was cut off - wait, dear Russians - a payment for gas from +20%

[proletarian]

But have you really gotten a fuck, don’t you get any discounts? Not any discounts, only full prepayment, and even partial repayment of debt for previous deliveries.
If in Ukraine they want to "ride" to the tune of the United States, then don’t fucking sponsor us (so that "XY from XY" would come faster).

[proletarian]

But have you really gotten a fuck, don’t you get any discounts? Not any discounts, only full prepayment, and even partial repayment of debt for previous deliveries.
If in Ukraine they want to "ride" to the tune of the United States, then don’t fucking sponsor us (so that "XY from XY" would come faster).

[afrikanez]

If it weren’t for the Crimea, I personally would not even have sat with the Ukrainians to poop on the same field! Zadolbali beggars and what is asked.

[Vadim237]

There, the question is not only about providing electricity to Crimea, but also about gas transit to Europe, Ukraine can arrange a gas supply interruption, and not only Europe, but we will suffer from this.

[Evilcat]

According to RIA Novosti, the discount on "blue fuel" for Ukraine for the winter period will be about $ 20 per 1 cubic meters

And from the population they take 7 hryvnia per cubic meter. The tricks are pretty good.

[avg]

Quote: Putin

Until the cable lies in the Crimea will have to give a discount

From August to November 1942, under enemy fire, they laid 5 cable lines along the bottom of Ladoga to besieged Leningrad. And now it is already the second year "Gerasim is being offended", and so the bosses are scampering.

[atamankko]

I don’t understand all this.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: asadov

and at the same time lower taxes and increase pensions with scholarships.
Or are we not people, and so, nothing compared to the new-timers?

That is not, what kind of people are we? We are the population, taxpayers, sheep, which are supposed to be cut ... In schools, both parents bred parents for money and continue, although the situation has changed considerably compared to the 90s. Well, about sports schools, at least write a separate article.

[perm23]

And we are all silent, of course, at a forum in the kitchen, we speak and are indignant, but to pack up and come to the same school and declare our rights is not. Let someone do there, decide, fight, and I will stand here, I have no time, I need to earn money, feed my family. We passed the elections and again chose, for example, our businessmen, directors of the Criminal Code, because they invested money, brought them to the monastery, gave gifts, and now they are in power again. Yes, with whom then you need to ask. maybe all the same, first of all from his own native.

[exalex2]

“the bear” (and not only him) dances to the tune of the Junta as it wants, “brothers”. Putin, Bravo!!! Bis!!!

[Yun Klob]

Yes, Ukraine should be given gas for nothing, otherwise they don’t have enough money for the ATO.

[Wolka]

if you believe the above, then why does the national treasure - Gazprom not make similar discounts on the domestic gas market of Russia, thereby covering its losses on the foreign market at the expense of the country's domestic market, the strange domestic economy, or the citizens of their own country did not turn up...

[Zomanus]

Damn, so much passion. Firstly, everything will only be discussed. The fact that Ukraine declared this as a fait accompli is a delusional act on its part. Secondly, the discount period under discussion until the end of the year will be discussed again later. Yes, you can take everything and block it. Well, it’s like when you’re fighting with your upstairs neighbor, you cut down the water risers all over the entrance. The consequences were presented. But we also have neighbors. Whom we will push away from ourselves with such a policy of cutting off at the slightest provocation. So there is no need to flog the fever.
Further. Calculate how many projects Russia is currently pursuing. Cosmodrome, bridge, energy bridge, SP-2, bypass railway, import substitution, defense industry,... I think that people here will still be able to throw in a lot. These are all the means that we lack for a good life. Let's screw up these projects and spend all the money stupidly on a push, like in the 90s. And what do we get in the end?
This is for government critics. Remember how we read that during the war years the people gave everything for victory. Now the same thing is happening. The authorities began to catch thieves and open cases against them. This never happened before.

[doc67]

So why are you different? The price and discount will be exactly the same as for neighboring EU member countries. No more no less.

[sgr291158]

Just look at them, how about a trip to Moscow, and how is it winter, give a discount on gas. No discounts, full price.

[perm23]

Well, what we want is that the entire economy is built on a pipe. The ruble exchange rate was pegged to the barrel. It’s clear that we can be put under pressure, and so Ukraine and Europe are putting pressure on us. And we have to give discounts and endure them. Because otherwise they’ll put pressure on us and then many will start singing differently. That’s the problem and the most important thing is that we’re just talking again and doing nothing We do it so as not to sit only on the pipe, so as not to depend only on gas. And it’s a shame and it sucks because of all this.

[ML-334]

I’ll speak for myself. I want to see Stalin in Putin so that he can firmly restore order. Everyone knows the enemies of the people. I’ve hated liberals since the 90s, I lived on flatbread, luckily I took a bag of flour for my salary, but there wasn’t enough for butter, so they fried them. And these bastards they still hang out on TV screens and rob people in the same way. I know murder is a sin, but it would deprive someone of their sight.

[demos1111]

Good day. Yes, the article is so-so, but the comments for the most part are simply brilliant.
Every second expert knows the intricacies of the negotiation process. I think so, if the government has a contract ready, it means there was bargaining, and it’s not for us to judge who bargained more.
And I’ll say this about the government, if you don’t like yours, take ours, I’m from Minsk. So compare.
You will pray to your Putin.

[roskot]

Well, how much can you?

[kunstkammer]

After the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine approved a new military doctrine, in which Russia is qualified as the main military threat and an aggressor country, another anti-Russian center of power has legally taken shape in the post-Soviet space.

... well, in the meantime, our native Russian government is intensively helping this “anti-Russian center” build up forces against Russia.
And Ukrainian propagandists successfully appear on the central television channels of Russia. The whole country is already up to its ears in their drool and spit.

[Mentat]

Quote: Pancho

Quote: MooH

And why do not we arrange a social blockade of Ukraine? Nekhai Yanukovych and Azarov will seize the valve and block it. There must be at least some sense from them.

We supply them with fuel and lubricants, so make your own conclusions.

And what conclusions should we draw ourselves?

[Mentat]

Quote: exalex2

“the bear” (and not only him) dances to the tune of the Junta as it wants, “brothers”. Putin, Bravo!!! Bis!!!

Let’s continue your logic: it is necessary to launch tactical nuclear weapons strikes on major cities of Ukraine as a demonstration of contempt and hatred for the “Ukrainians.” Why not? There, all of them are not people, just cattle, traitors, the junta, subhumans and genetic scum. Am I stating everything correctly? We are brothers. Atu.

Is it a bit overkill? Where is the line of a reasonable reaction? How to manage to optimally maneuver in a difficult situation between ten lights?

These stupid people in think tanks spend a whole day thinking about things that make their heads hurt, but they can’t come up with anything smart. Not like you, in 2 minutes, and the message to the forum is ready! And pluses, pluses (this is important).