Harry Potter School: the best spells for GDP growth

The other day in the newspaper Kommersant There was a material devoted to the meeting in Novo-Ogaryovo on budget quotes. The central theme of the material was the initiative of the Ministry of Economic Development in the person of Alexei Ulyukayev about the withdrawal of the Russian economy to sustainable growth already in 2016. The Ministry of Economic Development believes that the policy of strengthening the national currency should lead to an increase in Russia's GDP.

If the ruble is given the opportunity to raise the bar of its course against the dollar and the euro, then in 2016, the economy, according to the Ministry of Economic Development, will grow by 2,4%, in 2017 - by 3,3%, and by 2018 will accelerate to 4,4% growth. At the same time, again, according to the estimates of the department of Ulyukayev, investments will also grow. It is they who should give impetus to the Russian economy. “Plans” for investments for the period 2016-2018. The MER “distributes” in the following way: plus 4,3% in 2016, plus 7,1% in 2017, and plus 8,7% in 2018.

What are the arguments in favor of increasing the volume of investments offered by Ulyukayev? It turns out that now investors do not want to actively invest in projects in Russia, because, you see, they are concerned about the low rate of the Russian currency (for some reason, the relatively low rate, for example, of the Japanese currency does not frighten investors). But as soon as the ruble starts to grow, these most “anxious” investors will trooply run to transfer funds to accounts serving Russian projects, and the economy will go up, up and up again ...

The proposal of the Ministry of Economic Development is certainly interesting. It is so interesting that it pushes the question: if the “expensive” ruble is almost the only tool for attracting investments, according to the ministry, then why has the ministry been silent about it all this year? .. The ruble has been devalued more than twice as much against the background of a sharp decline in oil prices, but only such a process in the same economic “segment” of the government all this time has been declared positive. They say that the ruble mass of revenues to the budget has even grown; there is an opportunity (at least) to fulfill the basic social obligations in the presence of an obvious economic crisis (and not only in Russia).

Moreover, for the “correctly dropped” ruble and for, it seems, the preservation of the main potentials of the economy without simultaneously launching the process of “economic Ukrainization”, the head of the Bank of Russia was even awarded by foreign comrades, recognizing the best in the world. Did Minister Ulyukaev decide with his proposal on the need to strengthen the ruble to call into question the primacy of Elvira Sakhipzadovna?

So, back to the initiative of the Ministry of Economic Development. According to this initiative regarding the so-called target scenario, the ruble should increase by 2016% in 2, 2017% in 5,3, and 2018% in 4,8. That is, in the 2018, the dollar will be (well, the MER wants so much) to give somewhere around the 58,3 ruble. It turns out that everything is a matter of business ... - to back up a dollar for seven, and the Russian economy will rush into growth. Everything is so simple. In general, it’s strange that until now no one from the notorious economic segment of the government thought ... No one, except experts from the Ministry of Economic Development, who over the past year due to a number of external and internal factors have lost the objectivity of most of its name - the ministry seems to be like that and there is no economic development ... Of course, willy-nilly you start to think out ways out of the situation on the basis of numbers taken from the ceiling.

Although, why, actually, from the ceiling? Perhaps, Alexey Valentinovich, together with his subordinates, really found the “golden section” of the Russian economy and derived a formula with the presence of (for any) triple integrals and Laplace operators in spherical coordinates to determine the effective exchange rate of the Russian ruble ... If so, then for the Ministry of Economic Development and its the manual could be glad. But for some reason plagued by vague doubts. Firstly, because in order to grow the Russian economy and attract investments, it is proposed not to follow the path of production development with specific data on what, where and in what volumes it is necessary to build and launch in terms of production capacity. Secondly, because this is not the first forecast of Mr. Ulyukaev’s ministry, and this forecast has few chances, considering that none of the previous ones has come true ... I remember that the 2014 forecast was adjusted the 5-6 times, starting with 3,3% growth GDP, then lowering the bar to 2,2%, then to 1,5%, and completing the “accurate” forecast in 0,3%. Moreover, it is important that the appearance of such an accurate forecast in 0,3% of GDP growth and 0,3 itself almost coincided with the total growth over time ... Well, this is like weather forecasting for the next 10-15 minutes.

There is one more small idea from the MER, which was mentioned in Novo-Ogaryovo, and which should also be mentioned. It lies in the fact that the Russians have to cut costs. The idea outlined the Deputy Minister of Economic Development Alexei Vedev:

Improving the efficiency of the economy on the basis of stimulating investment demand by reducing current consumption.

The idea is also brilliant ... That is, for the development of the economy, you don’t need to work more and more efficiently and, accordingly, earn more, don’t bother about opening new jobs, stimulating entrepreneurship and domestic demand, but you need to “just” tighten the belts. .. Just a little bit: at the level of 0,1% -3,3% in 2016-2018. Eat less, use less gas, electricity, gasoline, turn on the water less often, speak more quietly, blink less often - save your calories, and you will receive foreign investment, and lower inflation, and in general - economic manna ...

Honestly, after such proposals of our leading economists, you start to think: if these are the leading ones, then who then, for the most part, graduate from our economic universities? Well, you need to manage to learn 5-6 for years to come to the conclusion that reducing consumption by the population will lead to a decrease in inflation ... For any Nobel Prize in economics - no other way ...

Sorry, but Russia definitely doesn’t have any other ways besides the artificial repulsion of the ruble and the “tightening of the belts”? ..

Comments

[Name]

Tired of Ulyukaev, that Siluanov, sleeping and seeing how ordinary people to rob. It’s not enough for more mind ... Whether there is generally no gray matter in the skull ... But for some reason, it inspires influence agents, but ...

[mirag2]

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

who doesn't? if you want and have the strength, go work, and if you have already "worked out" what, crawling to the cemetery?

[mirag2]

have already "worked out" that, crawling to the cemetery?

-why at the cemetery? -retirement. Or do you mean that if by the age of 60 you have already "worked out"? - is it like, health in the sense of not? If a man at 60 years old has no strength and health, then he or the wrong image He led his life (WE'RE GUILTY!), or acquired diseases, and we have medicine for that. Just don’t say that it’s bad, it’s the kind we have grown for ourselves.
Patriots-patriots ... And how to work, so immediately to the liberals "gravitated"?
Here are how many lazy people ... And we are also talking about "the quality of Russian goods" ... - Where does quality come from if a person works through a stump-deck, and dreams of pulling off work and retiring from a computer in the comments to "patriot"?
ps about "patriot at the computer" - not to you,Andrey Yuryevich specifically, do not accept at your own expense, in any case.

[Hon]

Quote: mirag2

-why at the cemetery? -retirement. Or do you mean that if by the age of 60 you have already "worked out"? - is it like, health in the sense of not? If a man at 60 years old has no strength and health, then he or the wrong image He led his life (WE'RE GUILTY!), or acquired diseases, and we have medicine for that. Just don’t say that it’s bad, it’s the kind we have grown for ourselves.
Patriots-patriots ... And how to work, so immediately to the liberals "gravitated"?
Here are how many lazy people ... And we are also talking about "the quality of Russian goods" ... - Where does quality come from if a person works through a stump-deck, and dreams of pulling off work and retiring from a computer in the comments to "patriot"?
ps about "patriot at the computer" - not to you, Andrey Yuryevich specifically, do not take it personally, in any case.

according to my observations, the most able-bodied people after 60 are lawyers of my profession, and of similar professions like economists, as well as all kinds of university professors, philologists, and other representatives of intellectual labor. honestly, I’ll probably be able to sit in the office up to eighty and run around the courts. but at the machine after 60 it’s harder to stand, and for what? for a good salary. Do you have it? for what work? for the sake of the state. But is it worth it?
so that the next minister-official could afford a million-dollar watch, a yacht the size of an aircraft carrier and a palace somewhere in Europe? it turns out for the sake of this.
"work ennobles a person and enriches the employer"

[gladcu2]

All specialists after 60 may be helpful.

But the problem is this. Any attempt to estimate the cost of labor rests on the problem of constantly reducing the agreed amount. And from here misunderstandings and labor conflicts.

And the beginning is laid in the banking system. Even capitalism, by its nature, is not so effective in competition aimed at depreciating labor and lowering incomes.

[atalef]

Quote: Hon

according to my observations, the most efficient people after 60 are people of my profession, lawyers, and of similar professions

Deputies, presidential administration officials, Gazprom top managers, etc.

[Awaz]

after 45 they don’t take anywhere to work ... actually .. The quality of work directly depends on the workers in the last turn. The same people, getting, for example, to Europe work in no way worse than the natives.
So there you go. In addition, having experience working both abroad and with foreigners, I can say that Russian hard workers are much better and are able to work smarter and more efficiently and faster even than foreigners. The whole problem we have in the lousy organization of production. But this is a completely different story. All of our modern managers are trained in Western patterns and can only do stupid things and also help the client, trying as much as possible to save on everything.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: AwaZ

after 45 they don’t take anywhere to work ... actually .. The quality of work directly depends on the workers in the last turn.

57. A month ago, he wrote a statement for calculation, they asked for more work.

[Awaz]

I am almost 50, I am the oldest employee of those who work on the assembly line, in addition I am one of not many who have a salary of more than a thousand euros per month, even in the current situation. Unfortunately this is an exception. If I go for a raise (and they offer it every month) I’ll lose half my salary .... So I can work hard for now,

[gladcu2]

Awaz

You know, I'll tell you my next stupid thing.

Do you know who is the biggest criminal under capitalism?

Altruist.

Because if your work is not standardized, they ask you, and you do. So you work partly and often for free. But it’s also difficult to refuse, because there is competition in the labor market.

[Awaz]

I completely agree . So what to do

[atalef]

Quote: mirag2

. Or do you mean, what if by the age of 60 you have "worked out"?

Yes, you know, I worked it out, and paid taxes and has the right to a well-deserved rest

Quote: mirag2

If a man at 60 years old has no strength and health, then he or the wrong way of life led (MYSELF guilty!),

What is to blame?
What health did not preserve? So is this his personal problem, or are you going to treat him with his work?

Quote: mirag2

and we have medicine for this

Quote: mirag2

Patriots-patriots ... And how to work, so immediately to the liberals "gravitated"?

so let's generally cancel? Soon you will write all pensioners as enemies of the country.
But they don’t work - they get the money, and even they need to be treated - maybe it’s better to shoot them right away?

Quote: mirag2

Here are how many lazy people ... And we are also talking about "the quality of Russian goods" ... - Where does quality come from if a person works through a stump-deck, and dreams of pulling off work and retiring from a computer in the comments to "patriot"?

Yes, not childishly sausage for you

[ZU-23]

Young people do not work, a lot of majors, nariks and gadgets who sit in huts and their parents are hucksters, so they decided that those who worked let them work until the grave. Urgently an article for parasitism and 200 out of 100 pensioners will come out to work

[atalef]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

who doesn't? if you want and have the strength, go work, and if you have already "worked out" what, crawling to the cemetery?

And he does not want to work alone, he needs friends.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

127 Bolivia 66.25 63.5 69
128 Guyana 66.25
129 Russia 66.05 59.1 73


Source: Average life expectancy in Russia and the world in 2014, bs-life.ru

I don’t even want to write anything. 1 column - total
2 column - men, 3 column - women

[afdjhbn67]

When my wife takes me to the supermarket as a draft force for groceries, at once all the spells of our economists and GDP cease to work ... I immediately cease to rejoice and the victories in Syria which still do not exist and Krymnash, etc., gradually hate the government as in 90- e they stsuki there, and we are here ..

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: afdjhbn67

When my wife takes me to the supermarket as a draft force

1. Never go shopping with my wife. This greatly saves both time and money.
2. Move to the village, there are no supermarkets

[Mart]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

2. Move to the village, there are no supermarkets

I live in the village, Sasha. Has long been. He has lived in three villages since 2009. Prices in local small shops are on average 25-30% higher than in city supermarkets. It cannot be otherwise: products are purchased in small wholesale. At the same time, wholesalers often drag food to the village on the verge of "delay". Internet in the countryside from the wonderful "Rostelecom" is also more expensive: in the nearest town - 199 rubles / month, in the countryside - 500 rubles. Quite a monopoly pricing.

[anip]

Quote: Mart

I live in the village, Sasha. Has long been. He has lived in three villages since 2009. Prices in local small shops are on average 25-30% higher than in city supermarkets.

That's right. In villages, prices for food and goods are higher. People in gardens and forests live more and more.

[gladcu2]

anip

So the paradox turned out. Capitalism depreciated labor force driven into the countryside on subsistence farming.

Well, where is the progress?

Capitalism with a competitive decline in income killed its progenitor, the user.

[Tambov Wolf]

How is 199 rubles per month? We have 650 in our city, Rostelecom, ADSL ++ 14 Mbit, actually 6-9 Mbit. Unlimited tariff.

[Mart]

Quote: Tambov Wolf

How does 199 rub per month?

Source.

[Tambov Wolf]

I was simply surprised at such rates. Why then do we have such rates?

[atalef]

Quote: Mart

At the same time, wholesalers often drag food to the village on the verge of "delay". Internet in the countryside from the wonderful "Rostelecom" is also more expensive: in the nearest town - 199 rubles / month, in the countryside - 500 rubles. Quite a monopoly pricing.

Hey . Oleg
Well, some will conclude that the well-being of the villagers is many times higher than in the city - just pay
Here I was one arguing (already forgotten by someone) that if they buy on credit. then there is money. otherwise they would not overpay.

[anip]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

1. Never go shopping with my wife. This greatly saves both time and money.

If you go on food, then this does not save anything, you will not eat more than what is necessary for the body.

[mirag2]

does not save, more than you need for the body - do not eat.

-You don’t eat. But to buy more than you need is easy.

[liuk good]

even as you eat. Therefore so many fat people

[VEKT]

2. Move to the village, there are no supermarkets laughing

And there’s a lot of things there, for example, there is no gas in my room, there is wood heating, in winter there is still no road, the nearest hospital in the regional center is 15 km, it takes 3 kilometers to get to the train, and they were reduced. It’s called live, don’t refuse anything to yourself.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: VEKT

2. Move to the village, there are no supermarkets laughing

And there’s a lot of things there, for example, there is no gas in my room, there is wood heating, in winter there is still no road, the nearest hospital in the regional center is 15 km, it takes 3 kilometers to get to the train, and they were reduced. It’s called live, don’t refuse anything to yourself.

Great is the country of Russia ...... (s)

[anfil]

You gave a good example: ... as a TAX force takes me to a SUPERMARKET ..., but would live "better" your wife would go alone with a small handbag and not in a super market.

[Hon]

Quote: anfil

You cited a good example: ... as a TRAVELING force he takes me to the SUPERMARKET ... but if your wife would live "better" would go alone with a small handbag and not in a super market.

It’s more profitable to buy immediately for a week or a month, large packages, cereals, powders and other things are more profitable than buying per kilogram

[Altona]

Quote: afdjhbn67

When my wife takes me to the supermarket as a draft force for groceries, at once all the spells of our economists and GDP cease to work ... I immediately cease to rejoice and the victories in Syria which still do not exist and Krymnash, etc., gradually hate the government as in 90- e they stsuki there, and we are here ..

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There is practically no connection between Syria, Krymnash and the decline in the economy, sanctions affect, but not on such a scale as shouting from above ... They shout because they literally squeezed golden testicles ... The decline in the economy is associated with expensive credit and lack of attention to the real sector ... We, 20 years ago, in many respects provided for ourselves ...

[afdjhbn67]

Syria and Krymnash are a distraction for us from the internal problems of the country and an awkward situation in the economy, while the inertia of prosperous years persists but soon it will completely stop .. here they are trying to brain us ... I personally do not need Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, etc. Although a person is always more interested in what’s in his refrigerator (simplified) than in the ice of the Arctic ..

[Altona]

Quote: afdjhbn67

Syria and Krymnash are a distraction for us from the internal problems of the country and an awkward situation in the economy, while the inertia of prosperous years persists but soon it will completely stop .. here they are trying to brain us ... I personally do not need Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, etc. Although a person is always more interested in what’s in his refrigerator (simplified) than in the ice of the Arctic ..

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Personally, they do not distract me from the "problems of the country", I am surprised with sincere interest by the stupid economic initiatives of Ulyukaev-Siluanov-Nabiulinna ... But Crimea and Syria are not such a weight as you think, Crimea is also a self-sufficient region and investments in it will pay off ... And in Syria, we just started doing something, although we had to do it already yesterday ...

[mirag2]

Syria and Krymnash are distractions from the internal problems of the country and the situation in the economy

- Have you ever thought about the fact that internal problems and the disastrous state of the economy are the consequences of "Krymnash" - and not vice versa?

[Altona]

Quote: mirag2

- Have you ever thought about the fact that internal problems and the disastrous state of the economy are the consequences of "Krymnash" - and not vice versa?

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You don't look in retrospect ... Watch the crisis of 2008-2009 ... Oil also crashed to $ 40, the dollar grew from 23 to 33 rubles, but nothing like that happened ... By the way, the government immediately increased and indexed many payments, gave the bankers 150 lards of greenery, which they immediately snatched into offshores, and not into the real sector ... We also wanted to redeem the auto giant Adam Opel AG from the Germans through Sberbank through Sberbank, and they did not sell it to us .. .What is it like sanctions? These were veiled sanctions in their purest form ... You think narrowly and do not remember recent events ...

[Robinzon57]

Quote: afdjhbn67

I personally do not need Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, etc. Although a person is always more interested in what’s in his refrigerator (simplified) than in the ice of the Arctic ..

They are simply arranged: sleep-eat-toilet. And Crimea and Syria are needed and the Arctic, if we want to develop. Another thing is that a mediocre government (or a malicious one, I suspect) is leading us to the Crimea, not ours, Siberia, yours, the Caucasus, not ours. I completely agree with the author - such "visionaries" are not able to fix the matter. No one argues that the refrigerator is important, but it is necessary to think about the future, and if someone does not include US in the "golden billion", they should be explained in an accessible language that they are wrong. And to make the words sound more convincing, you should quickly give a kick to the company of "illusionists" led by the LADY. With respect....

[gladcu2]

Robinson 57

You rolled your lip here. Most likely, the "golden billion" will exclude itself, rather than include someone.

The system itself resets itself.

[Robinzon57]

Quote: gladcu2

gladcu2 (1)

"We cannot wait for favors from nature, it is our task to take them from her!"

[Sling cutter]

I look at the photo-muzzle in the article, and for some reason, mentally mechanically aim ...

[gladcu2]

Sling cutter

Duck and who is there? I don't know how to call this face-face.

You do not exchange for trifles. If it works so well.

[gladcu2]

Sling cutter

Just don’t think that this business is useful. These faces are like flies on glass. Not this face, so another will be. It’s all the same to crush these flies that they are picking their nose.

[atalef]

Quote: Altona

There is practically no connection between Syria, Krymnash and the decline in the economy,

Well Syria has not yet begun. Well, our connection with Crimea is obvious

Quote: Altona

sanctions affect, but not on such a scale as shouting from above

So does sanction affect? But you speak with Crimea, our connection is not.
Look at economic indicators

Quote: Altona

The decline in the economy is associated with expensive credit and a lack of attention to the real sector.

And the loan is expensive, from where 7 But the real sector can not develop why?

Quote: Altona

.We, 20 years ago, in many positions, we provided for ourselves ...

What exactly ?

[Hellraiser]

We need stability without any inflation. And then GDP will go up.

[afdjhbn67]

there were 15 years of stability and relatively small inflation - did GDP grow much? Something quickly hushed up Putin's dreams of 10 percent a year .. without developing their industry on the same gas and oil, they did not export it, or rather they exported it only to offshore ...

[Hellraiser]

Quote: afdjhbn67

there were 15 years of stability and relatively small inflation - did GDP grow much? Something quickly hushed up Putin's dreams of 10 percent a year .. without developing their industry on the same gas and oil, they did not export it, or rather they exported it only to offshore ...

It’s certainly not better for anyone when inflation is 50-60%, but the fact that it’s closing for this company probably for the Gross Product is good. And that people now buy only food and so on trifles. This, of course, also works on the rise.

[Ugrumiy]

GDP has a good percentage, and even if stability is without inflation, then in general ... it will be possible to choose GDP in kings

[Robinzon57]

Quote: Hellraiser

We need stability without any inflation. And then GDP will go up.

GDP - 62 years, it has already grown completely. He needs to look back at the economy

[BMW]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

So much for personal improvement. In the office to sit, only hemorrhoids can be earned, or the curvature of the spine.
In production, it’s hard and many forty already have sores.
You are an enemy for ordinary people. Who can, and that works. And people who must die at work.
Capitalism is slavery.
Medicine is dying, education too. We are turning into a colony and an appendage of the West.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: bmw

Medicine is dying, education too. We are turning into a colony and an appendage of the West.

Oh, return the 90s, early 2000s, here it was grace.

[BMW]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

here she was grace.

And right now the oil is pouring from the sky?
1. Medicine is completely paid, if you go to a free hospital, you sign a piece of paper about the cost of services, or you receive a certificate of value. In addition, this free medicine has become simply awful.
2. Education is being transferred to paid rails, quietly, it is simply being forced.
3. There is less and less work (normal in production), but the fact that it is built just crumbs.
We cannot even master one global construction project normally. Industrialization with GDP is impossible in principle.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: bmw

And right now the oil is pouring from the sky?

Compared to that time, yes. It’s just that many people forget how they lived before.

Quote: bmw

1. Medicine is paid completely absolutely, if you go to a free hospital, then sign a piece of paper about the cost of services, or you will receive a certificate of cost

Yes, with hell, it all depends on the type of service.

Quote: bmw

In addition, this free medicine has become simply awful.

It’s a paradox, but I received the best help from a doctor who did not take money from me. This was not long ago.

Quote: bmw

2. Education is being transferred to paid rails, quietly, it is simply being forced.

Yes, schools will be paid, still come up with.

Quote: bmw

3. Less and less work (normal in production),

He who wants to work will find work.

Quote: bmw

We cannot even master one global construction project normally. Industrialization with GDP is impossible in principle.

graduated polymer

[anip]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Compared to that time, yes. It’s just that many people forget how they lived before.

But I remember how they lived in the USSR. And yes, why compare with the worst, what kind of manner is this? Let's compare with the best.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

He who wants to work will find work.

Yes, yes, yes, said the man, who got a job on a sinecure to doom.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

graduated polymer

Yes it is. What is a heavy construction site? Pipes and everything near them - by, this is the development of the banana (raw) republic.

[asiat_61]

Under the USSR, S. farm was compared with 1913. It was the best year in terms of indicators, so we need to compare not with the worst, but with the best. It would be strange that we would not strive for the best.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: asiat_61

Under the USSR, S. farm was compared with 1913. It was the best year in terms of indicators, so you need to compare not with the worst, but with the best

And it’s impossible with the best

8 years of a gigantic fall in industrial production of the period 1914-1921 to the level of 1913 were played over 8 years of the period 1922-1929, after which real, not restoration, growth began.



So far, 8 years of industrial production fall of the period 1992-1998 to the level of 1991 have not been won back - 17 years have passed, and recovery growth has not been completed, and the industrial production level is 90% to the level of 1991.



Who will compare you with the best in such situations?

[anip]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

He who wants to work will find work.

And where can you find it if, with your pet, the guarantor in our city of factories with five or six collapsed? And among these factories were defense-space.

[mirag2]

Come on - "USSR, USSR" ... - and whose wheat did we eat then? Why were there posters in all canteens and bakeries: "Every crumb in the palm of your hand," "Bread is the head of everything"? - someone cared about the severity of the farmer's labor ? I myself saw how these grain growers worked (well, maybe not everything is like that), and these posters were hanging BECAUSE WHEAT (which was fed to pigs in the villages) -USSR BOUGHT FOR GOLD (CURRENCY) IN THE WEST.
And now we sell it ourselves.

[Foul skeptic]

Whose ate? They ate their own.
Why were the posters? Because from childhood, normal qualities were instilled in a person.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: mirag2

And whose wheat did we eat then? Why were there posters in all canteens and bakeries: "Every crumb in the palm of your hand," "Bread is the head of all"? - someone cared about the severity of the farmer's labor? I myself saw how these farmers worked (well, perhaps and not everything is so), and these posters hung BECAUSE WHEAT (which was fed to pigs in the villages) -USSR BOUGHT FOR GOLD (CURRENCY) IN THE WEST.
And now we sell it ourselves.

[gladcu2]

Uncle Joe

What is on your poster? Nothing is visible.

The fact that the socialist system is WORSE worse than the capitalist one, only a fresh vegetable will affirm.

Socialism, the following, tested in practice in the USSR, by Comrade I. Stalin, is the best system for organizing society.

But I hope you do not call for a world revolution. Here half measures can not do.

Here you are not there. Here a different approach needs to be sought. Reset the system at the expense of 300 million human lives?

A Huhu is not hoho?

Hwa people’s brains to powder. In other words. Stop rioting provoke. People already understand everything without you.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: gladcu2

What is on your poster? Nothing is visible

I don’t even know what to tell you about this ...

I just click on the picture - it grows and I can see everything. Then I go down to the lower right side of the picture, click on the "enlarge to full size" rectangle, and what is already visible becomes perfectly visible.

But I hope you do not call for a world revolution

I urge, since only the destruction of capitalism and the transition to socialist relations on a global scale (that is, the world socialist revolution) can put an end to economic crises and wars.
Until then, capitalist countries will not simply be left alone by any socialist state.

Reset the system at the expense of 300 million human lives?

[Robinzon57]

Quote: mirag2

Come on - "USSR, USSR" ... - and whose wheat did we eat then? Why were there posters in all canteens and bakeries: "Every crumb in the palm of your hand," "Bread is the head of everything"? - someone cared about the severity of the farmer's labor ? I myself saw how these grain growers worked (well, maybe not everything is like that), and these posters were hanging BECAUSE WHEAT (which was fed to pigs in the villages) -USSR BOUGHT FOR GOLD (CURRENCY) IN THE WEST.
And now we sell it ourselves.

It's funny I will tell you. If you were very young during the USSR period, then the liberalists misled you. If not, then you intentionally distort the facts, being their guide. During the last five-year period - 1986-1990, the average grain harvest in the USSR was 224 million tons of grain - per 270 million people i.e. 830 kg per person;
In the five-year period 2010-2014, the average grain harvest amounted to 87 million tons - per 145 million people i.e. 600 kg per person. AS YOU SEE, the efficiency of grain production in Russia is 72% of production in the USSR. And grain export now is the export of raw materials for meat production, which the USSR produced itself, and Russia imports.

[vladim.gorbunow]

Selling Russian wheat has always been a matter of dire need, or a crime. Sign of trouble. Yes, and the sale of gas, when many Russian territories are not gasified, smells bad.

[gladcu2]

mirag2

So the USSR bought feed wheat. And he sold food. Such was the integration in the global economy. Did you not say that?

Well, you see, it means that the Liberians were not in vain hanging noodles on their ears.

Enough to be naive.

[IS-80]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It’s a paradox, but I received the best help from a doctor who did not take money from me. This was not long ago.

And what does this prove? Well, besides the fact that in your particular case you were lucky and you were provided with quality medical care for free. I can give examples of the opposite.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, schools will be paid, still come up with.

And why not?

Quote: Alexander Romanov

He who wants to work will find work.

For the food.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

graduated polymer

Not all. There are too many polymers in this ineffective socialism in stock.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: IS-80

I can give examples of the opposite.

Can you bring

Quote: IS-80

And why not?

Wiggle

Quote: IS-80

For the food.

Yeah, make you work for food.

Quote: IS-80

There are too many polymers in this ineffective socialism in stock.

Everything that was under socialism has long sunk into oblivion. And especially the gold reserve

[IS-80]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Can you bring

My father was misdiagnosed. And there were little things there.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Wiggle

ARGUMENTISM.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yeah, make you work for food.

No, well, in principle, you can live on unemployment benefits. Although probably live - it is said loudly.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Everything that was under socialism has long sunk into oblivion. And especially the gold reserve

Yeah, tell me more tales.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: IS-80

My father was misdiagnosed

Diagnosis error is a worldwide medical problem in general.

Quote: IS-80

ARGUMENTISM.

Yes, I’m fucked up from yourselves

Quote: IS-80

And why not?

I repeat shaken.

Quote: IS-80

Yeah, tell me more tales.

Yes, I’m not going to talk to you at all anymore, even on the forehead, even on the forehead.

[IS-80]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Diagnosis error is a worldwide medical problem in general.

Why did you say that? Just to say something?

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, I’m fucked up from yourselves

And where was the argument? It was a question. I just don’t understand why school cannot be paid?

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, I’m not going to talk to you at all anymore, even on the forehead, even on the forehead.

And don't play my toys yet. So yes?

[mirag2]

graduated polymer

-strong!!!

[Hon]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Compared to that time, yes. It’s just that many people forget how they lived before.

Well then, the barrel was worth $ 15, now if it’s going down just the same now, then it’s comparable whether it is better to live or worse.

[Lapotnik]

And why the hell are you comparing to 90s ??
On what basis? Compare with the heyday of the USSR, it will be right. Compare not the RESULT but the ACTIONS leading to the result by periods!

Whoever wants to find all your theses at the level of the empty troll. With this level of "whoever wants to find / do / do something else" there is nothing at all to meddle in state affairs and comment on anything.

As for medicine and education - if even on television they are stably talking on the main channels (except the first one is clear) about the global decline in these areas, then how can this be denied?

And your words about the best medical care recent - this is exactly what a paradox. NO RULE FOR SORRY.

He worked for 8 years in the Department of Social Policy and Health, so why the hell is it to your comment. Again, try to find out why everything is paid. I will give a hint - all that is free is the MINIMUM standard, prescribed with a minimum of material and quality. In practice, in 90% of cases you will be assured, and you yourself will choose a paid service with better materials and an expanded range of treatments. You do not just want to be patched up, but you also need guarantees.
And according to the standard, if everyone is treated, then polyclinics and hospitals will not pay off, and court cases of lack of assistance are also not needed, and this affects the salaries of doctors a lot - I'm not talking about bribes, I'm talking about official bonuses.

prospalitam ... I'll say so. For even with regard to construction projects, for your information, the lion's share of construction companies in the country are foreign offices. Turks, Finns, Yugoslavs and others. The worst thing is that everything that they can do and teach us with an intelligent look, they were taught in Soviet times by our specialists. "The brain cycle in nature" sarcasm. pancake.

If anything - I work in a fairly large St. Petersburg construction office, I have a clue about what I'm writing.

IMPORTANT - EVERYONE remembers how they lived before. In 90. and precisely because they do not want to be in the same situation and require real non-bank and populist measures.
And those who remember life until about the 80s, it is precisely in those times that they want it when the words communism, socialism, and the like were not abusive to the extent that they are now, and the social component of the state was the most powerful.

So don't fucking juggle with the concepts of "those times", comparing only the situation, but not comparing the actions of those in power that led to them, as well as the country's resource provision, both potential and real, which could be used, but unfortunately gone in certain directions ...

PS regarding import substitution - all manufacturers immediately said - this is a matter of at least five years, subject to state support. For livestock for 15 years or more (cattle, he reptile does not instantly grow). And this is subject to the injection of money with minimal interest and targeted. And unfortunately, the banking sector and immediate banking methods of influence on the economy prevail at our moment.

[Mordvin 3]

And Channel One, although it does not talk about bad medicine with us, nevertheless steadily asks for money to treat children from them.

[BMW]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, schools will be paid, still come up with.

I apologize for being rude, but they could just delete the word.
But education becomes paid, or rather forces teachers to work worse in order to earn extra money, and this is a direct path to full payment. Here is the ruling.

[BMW]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, schools will be paid, still come up with.

Here is the price tag.

[BMW]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

graduated polymer

Arguably weak?
You need to go to Khabarovsk and tell VO what happened with DALDIESEL, became one of the largest manufacturers of marine diesel engines in the USSR, and his daughter RENAL, who bent precisely with GDP.

[atalef]

Quote: bmw

Quote: Alexander Romanov

here she was grace.

And right now the oil is pouring from the sky?
1. Medicine is completely paid, if you go to a free hospital, you sign a piece of paper about the cost of services, or you receive a certificate of value. In addition, this free medicine has become simply awful.
2. Education is being transferred to paid rails, quietly, it is simply being forced.
3. There is less and less work (normal in production), but the fact that it is built just crumbs.
We cannot even master one global construction project normally. Industrialization with GDP is impossible in principle.

So what then did the GDP achieve?

[BMW]

Quote: atalef

So what then did the GDP achieve?

Grew power and an aligarchic business.

[Cat man null]

Quote: bmw

Grew power and an aligarchic business.

Oh really?

Does the term "seven bankers" tell you anything?

[BMW]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Does the term "seven bankers" tell you anything?

You still do not understand.
The formation of a local oligarchy, completely controlled by Moscow. There are, as it were, two authorities, state and aligarchic, closely intertwined, which allow controlling society.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: bmw

There are, as it were, two authorities, state and aligarchic

Oligarchy - (Greek oligarсhia - from oligos - not numerous and arche - power), a regime in which политическая (state) power belongs to a narrow group of people (rich, military, etc.).

[BMW]

Quote: Uncle Joe

Oligarchy -

So I’m talking about this to some comrades.
It was with GDP that the circle was closed, all power from the top to the very bottom became absolutely oligarchic.
Have the last elections not prompted you this thought? The last vestiges of democracy, in their basic sense, ceased to exist. Maybe I am not completely terminologically speaking correctly, but I think the essence should be clear.

[Cat man null]

Quote: bmw

The last vestiges of democracy, in their main sense, ceased to exist

- I didn't quite understand about ".. in its basic sense." What is this "basic meaning of democracy" is this?
- Where did you see that democracy, except in the pictures? I personally haven’t had a chance, although it’s already 40 years since I received my passport ..
- "ceased to exist" - was there any democracy? Damn, I was a moose .. I missed such a moment ..

[Cat man null]

Quote: Uncle Joe

power belongs to a narrow group of people (rich, military, etc.).

... Politburo of the Central Committee ...

[VEKT]

Oh, return the 90s, early 2000s, here it was grace.

In any incomprehensible situation, remember the 90s. The fact that with such management will be repeated soon 17th do not mention.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: VEKT

In any incomprehensible situation, remember the 90s.

This is only for those who have something and with what to compare.

Quote: VEKT

. The fact that with such management will be repeated soon 17th do not mention.

Fuck you!

[anip]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Fuck you!

I won’t be surprised if Putin’s security officer, sir. They are paid nothing so that 17 years did not happen again.

[mirag2]

I won’t be surprised if Putin’s security officer, sir. They are paid nothing so that 17 years did not happen again.

Yes, let it be a silovichok at least a hundred times. I was on the barricades when I was 91, the power was overthrown, Yeltsin was "lifted" ... If you want to follow in my footsteps, then you will not live life without regrets.
And not somewhere on the periphery, but at the only checkpoint at the White House, and not where for 1.5 km where three goats were crushed by a tank.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: mirag2

I was in 91 g on the barricades-power, maza faka overthrew, Yeltsin "lifted"

And since then you remain a true adherent of liberalism

Putin: "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, together with the new Russia, went the path of the most difficult but necessary transformations. He headed the process of cardinal changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a second birth. It has become a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is enormous.
It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, democratic institutions were formed, the Constitution of Russia was adopted, which proclaimed human rights and freedom as the highest value. "
http://top.rbc.ru/society/01/02/2011/536637.shtml

Vladimir Putin: “You see, we have not experienced any large-scale nationalization or a slide towards general administrative regulation. We have preserved the free movement of capital and the convertibility of the ruble. I am sure that all this served as a convincing signal for investors, and I want to emphasize once again and say: return there will be no way to the past. Russia will remain a market liberal economy. Today I want to repeat once again: we will consistently continue the line on encouraging private initiative, on integration into the world economy, on creating a favorable investment climate. "
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=317679

[VEKT]

Fuck you!

Well, let’s see, in the article we are talking about the fact that the Minister of Economic Development is openly delirious, you are talking about the 90s. Could still remember about Ukraine.

[IS-80]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Fuck you!

What contra, vibrated?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: IS-80

What contra, vibrated?

Yes, I need that, you need to worry, along with all the red-boobed trash.

[IS-80]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Yes, I need that, you need to worry, along with all the red-boobed trash.

What do we need? For us, historical inevitability. And sooner or later you will be washed away by a bloody wave, as always in history.

[anip]

Quote: VEKT

In any incomprehensible situation, remember the 90s.

And the Ura Putriots already have these memories as a mantra of steel. They like to compare everything with shit, and not with honey.

[34 region]

To each his own! So do not judge strictly. Some worms live in berries, others in shit.

[Name]

Quote: anip

And the Ura Putriots already have these memories as a mantra of steel.

For hurray-patriots Tibe minus. Explain that this general expression means "hurray-patriot"; if you can.

[VEKT]

Let me be clear. hurray-patriots, we have those who think that now everything is just fine with us and it couldn't be better, after the 90s we got up from our knees, and now we will show everyone Kuzkin's mother, we are inferior to NATO in quantitative and qualitative terms, do not care, but we have SPIRIT straight uh what, did you see the stickers on the cars "We can repeat 1941-1945"? The funny thing is that they are often glued by those who even did not serve in the army, what can they repeat? When asked why Vasilyeva was released, but Serdyukov was not imprisoned, they also have an answer, this is a cunning plan, in fact, they acted personally at Putin's instructions, distracting enemies. On fair remarks that, in general, everything is not so good in the country, you will be told that you are a liberal, an agent of the State Department and generally want to arrange a Maidan. America will soon fall apart, the dollar will collapse, and we are in bloom. Something like this.

[Name]

Quote: VEKT

Let me clarify. Hooray-patriots, we have those who think that now we just have everything fine

Hmmm, however:
Hooray - 1. Battle cry of troops during the attack. 2. An exclamation, a cry expressing collective enthusiastic approval.
Patriot - A person considered in relation to his belonging to his homeland, fatherland; usually with an additional assessment point: a zealot for the benefits of the fatherland, a faithful son of the fatherland. And some bipeds who are so derogatory in their homeland, in their homeland ... whom they consider themselves ... Probably the "carriers of exceptional culture" from the Gayanglo-Saxons.

[mirag2]

those who think that now everything is just fine with us and it can't be better

What if I'm just an optimist in life?

[anip]

Quote: name

For hurray-patriots Tibe minus. Explain that this general expression means "hurray-patriot"; if you can.

About hurray-patriots already explained below. I will not repeat myself.
And when you read (TE) you need to be a little more careful, I write hoo-Putriotov. Hurray Putriots are the same as Hurray patriots, they still tear their throats for the idol of their throats, no matter how much they mess up, the Hurray Putriots always have a good king, only something keeps bothering him all the time, and the boyars are bad, I’m silent about the slaves.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: name

that this expression in general means "hurray-patriot"; if you can.

Hooray-patriotism - Recklessly arrogant, baseless, boastful, false patriotism. (Ephraim's dictionary)

[Name]

Quote: Uncle Joe

Hooray-patriotism - Recklessly arrogant, baseless, boastful, false patriotism. (Ephraim's dictionary)

Then refer to Ushakov's dictionary, because Efremova "licked everything from there").

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: name

Efremova licked everything from there

Ushakova is simply defined as false patriotism, so what and where Efremova licked remains a mystery.

[mirag2]

I won’t be surprised if Putin’s security officer, sir. They are paid nothing so that 17 years did not happen again.

For example, in the 90s I had nowhere to put money, but now compared to that time, I sank, but I will never agree to a 90s refund.

[Yars]

and what do you think about honey in this situation? Well, compare

[34 region]

And what is the moment of the 17th year? February? Where did the sale and collapse of Russia or October go when the country began to collect?

[VEKT]

And what is the moment of the 17th year? February? Where did the sale and collapse of Russia or October go when the country began to collect?

First February, and only then it will depend on people.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: VEKT

In any incomprehensible situation, remember the 90s. The fact that with such management will be repeated soon 17th do not mention.

I would add that with such oil prices, we will soon return to the early 2000s, then the price, I remind you, was $ 30 per barrel. So grace is on the nose already, if nothing is changed in the economy.

[afdjhbn67]

Sasha, in a year your grace will return with a little

[Hon]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Oh, return the 90s, early 2000s, here it was grace.

it’s not yet evening, the barrel will be less than 20, and everything will return as it was. already the budget is bursting at the seams and the social network is being cut, but prices have fallen for less than a year, and the price is still the same as in the 90s, early 2000s we only dreamed of

[anfil]

First, we work to earn a pension, and then we work to live on it.

[anip]

Quote: bmw

We are turning into a colony and an appendage of the West.

Already turned into a fact.

[Homo]

Quote: mirag2

The people should work, especially now.

People may want to work, but the question is WHERE ??? Start to think about age, state of health, lack of ability to travel (shift) or move (permanently).

[34 region]

The work is as it were. There is no normal salary. Then comes the age qualification (old for work, young for retirement). Then a place of work, such as a shift method. Housing. In general, as Comrade Medvedev said: It is necessary to increase the mobility of the population (become homeless). Homeless - Without a Specific Residence.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: 34 region

In general, as Comrade Medvedev said: It is necessary to increase the mobility of the population

[Homo]

Quote: Region 34

The work is as it were.

How would it be where? You drive through the district centers! There is nothing besides shops.

[RU-Officer]

mirag2:
It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

I don’t understand something ... "mirag2", dear, are you kidding? So learn to at least use emoticons. If we admit that there is not even a hint of a joke in your words, I would like to know how you earn (or earned) for your "piece of bread"? Still, I hope - please joke. Then be careful - the people are hotter and hotter every day ...

[Vityok]

Do not scratch your tongue !!! In our country, and so the bulk of the male population does not live up to 60 years old, who really worked, and not scratched their tongue! Don't believe the official "statistics".

[anip]

Quote: Vitek

Do not scratch your tongue !!! With us, the main part of the male population does not live up to 60 years, who really worked, and did not scratch their tongues!

Well, duck in the government, the Duma and the presidency, you can even work until the lid of the coffin. there you will be brought, taken away, fed, put to sleep, treated in countries, in those to which sanctions were announced, etc. Why not "work"?

[valokordin]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

Passed in vain are people with specific thinking, but I understand your subtle irony of increasing age.

[anip]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

Are you, by chance, not working in the Government or the Duma? And the question is: will you create jobs too, or blah blah blah about raising the retirement age, and jobs will be reduced. Where to work? And yes, it would be interesting to see you at the age of 65 in the face or at the lathe, or on the conveyor.

[Lapotnik]

I’ll say more - and you won’t get into the office plankton, only young people are sitting there, old people like the rhythm will not stand, etc. I myself am sitting in the office as an economist, and every year I understand more clearly that very big problems will soon be with employment ... And at one time it was necessary to take a techie (education).

[kotvov]

Need to raise the retirement age ,,
yes, yes, up to 80, oh, that went to 90. and it’s better to cancel the pension altogether.

[spiriolla-45]

Exactly for sure, and still stop paying salaries, drive everyone into barracks and feed just to not die. That’s it, and the liberal thugs that sucked at the feeder will continue to eat fat and take the country away.

[al.popoff]

NLMK’s two favorite sayings:
1 Who worked and worked, that p..day was covered for a long time.
2 If you want a hot experience, forget about the standing one.
Folk wisdom however.

[siberalt]

Premiere Glazyev with his team and you will have real results.

[hydrox]

Quote: name

sleep and see how ordinary people to rob.

And liberals have always been and are liberal traitors :: The whole world economy is depressed and only one Russia in white is on the rise ...
This is with what joy did the bathhouse fall?
Instead of introducing a mobilization economy, these monsters reassure us: "Sleep, dear Russians, death comes in a dream - this is good!"

[sherp2015]

Quote: name

Tired of Ulyukaev, that Siluanov, sleeping and seeing how ordinary people to rob. It’s not enough for more mind ... Whether there is generally no gray matter in the skull ... But for some reason, it inspires influence agents, but ...

If only Siluyanov and Ulyukai.
Almost the entire government, to put it mildly, is mediocre, and it is likely that they are working for foreign "partners" ...
How else to explain the destruction of the economy?
However, for some reason, the salaries of them and the deputies are quite "fat".
If their salaries depended on the number of enterprises commissioned and were close to the salaries of the average Russian, then maybe they were thinking more with their brain, not their ass ...

[fennekRUS]

then who, then, in their total mass, are graduating from our economic universities? - clearly not economists. We talked about this department - "like I'm studying somewhere" Paid diploma for the sake of a diploma.

[DanSabaka]

according to their logic, it turns out that in order to spend less on feed and increase milk yield it is necessary:
1) less cow feed
2) more milking the cow ...

[karal]

But for some reason it brings about agents of influence, and ...

Well it is! Ulyukaev brings Gaidar's ideas to life, and after all, everything is against the Russian people! Here Naeb ..., Nabiullina, Dvorkovichi and other, other.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: karal

Ulyukaev brings Gaidar's ideas to life, and after all, everything is against the Russian people!

What do you have against this wonderful person and patriot?

Putin: “The death of Yegor Timurovich Gaidar is a heavy loss for Russia, for all of us. There is no real citizen and patriot, a strong-willed person, a talented scientist, writer and practitioner.
Not every statesman has the opportunity to serve the Fatherland at the most critical stages of its history, to make key decisions that will determine the future of the country
Egor Timurovich Gaidar adequately accomplished this difficult task, showing the best professional and personal qualities
He did not shy away from responsibility and in the most difficult situations he held a blow with honor and courage
The bright memory of Yegor Gaidar will forever remain in the hearts of his family and friends, everyone who knew this wonderful person "
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=331463&tid=75735

[gladcu2]

Uncle Joe

What would you like Putin to say about Gaidar?

What, Gaidar is a thief, a scoundrel and a traitor?

So everyone knows that. What's new?

A respected GDP said that one partner has changed his status. Everyone agreed and scored. And you remind again ...

[antoXa]

Name
Well, what do you want?)
The Department of Strategic Development of the Ministry of Economic Development is headed by a young guy who is 26 years old) his experience of working for 2 years as an advisor to the minister, roughly speaking almost immediately after graduation))), but no, he forgot a little more, he worked as an advisor or assistant to V. Mau from RANEPA), these are "talented" guys make these predictions)))

[Alekseev]

Quote: name

I'm sick

That's right!
Ruble, more expensive, investors will come running ...
Say, with a cheap ruble there is little profit ...
And unbeknownst to the minister-economist that while the ruble is tied to oil, according to foreign recipes, the course will jump at the behest of the United States. And investors will be mainly of a speculative type, from which there is more loss than good.
In general, to limit, where possible, the business of companies that are outside Russian jurisdiction.

[Asadullah]

sleep and see how ordinary people rob

And how? Do not tell me? And only they, or is there anyone else?

The fact is that, most likely, they, and many others, are sleeping and seeing how to maintain a balance between their position - the chair, the government, the Kremlin, the Duma, the media and world processes. And if they really blame them, it’s just that the people are deeply violet to them.

The second point, the author talks about GDP, but the level of GNP is more important in this situation. But the situation is this: GDP may rise if export rises in price or the state takes loans. Kudrin's option is to take loans, and transfer assets solely to US financial securities. A variant of Ulyukaev, we must wait for the increase in the price of hydrocarbons. For only in this case, investments will go. But the fact is that such investments are direct relatives of loans. Investments should be long-term, this is transport, production, energy, communications. Can you list possible investors?

Ulyukaev is most likely mediocrity, but really, what can he do? An official in a bureaucratic machine, lazy and clumsy, it should generally be like that. The issue of investment is a matter of a liability policy, which Russia does not have. For example, in China, the head is responsible specifically for investments in a province, region, city. There are investments, you are being promoted, no, you’re going to look for work, at best you file documents in the office. Everything is extremely simple. In our country, flirting with various party interests, there is a man of this, there this, there is Uncle Kolya, there Arkady Petrovich. As long as there is a complicated system of sharing interests for political support or for something else, there will be no economic development, because the bureaucracy, like a fungus, will eat five cubes of wood and five million, it doesn’t bite its teeth anyway.

[Mikhail m]

Ulyukaev has become the same brand as the Psaki.

[antoXa]

Mikhail m
No, in fact he is a very intelligent person and immensely hardworking, working around the clock. But for whose benefit and in whose interests it is another question.

[Goga101]

The same "minister" in an interview with the BBC said that Russia does not represent anything economically and it takes about fifty years for something to change ... this is such a "development" in the head of "our" minister ...
Every day of Ulyukaev and Siluanov's ministerial posts, every day of the leadership of the Central Bank of Nabiulina, every day of their "work" - drives the country's economy into a stupor and it is likely that as a result of their activities we will pass the point of "no return" - when no one nothing can fix the situation ...
A war is being waged against us, including an economic one - you cannot win a war if enemies in your headquarters command it.

[antoXa]

Goga101
If you are quoting, then quote, and do not give out your thoughts, for the thoughts of other people.
Here is an excerpt from the interview
"Stephen Sakur (BBC): Russia obviously wants to be - and feels like it is - a global superpower. But if we look at the economic situation in Russia and compare it with the power of the United States with all its innovative power, money and resources; and if we look at China with its enormous human potential, the ability to urbanize and develop infrastructure; and then we look at Russia, is it not correct to say that Russia cannot be called the global superpower of the 21st century, because its economy is simply not strong enough?

Alexey Ulyukaev: Of course, economically Russia is not a superpower. Because we have a ratio of GDP to the world economy of 3,3%. That is, nine times lower than that of the United States or China. We need at least 50 years of continued growth to get into the club of true economic superpowers. This is a big question for us: will we enter this road that leads to the club of 21st century superpowers, or not? We are now at a fork. At the moment, Russia looks rather modest in economic terms. I would say this: our economic level is much lower than our ambitions. "

[gladcu2]

Antoha

I respected Ulyukaev.

Do you know why? Because he said what they wanted to hear from him.

But in reality, to raise Russia to the level of a superpower, two years is enough, even with that weak educational potential after the rebuilt generation.

[antoXa]

gladcu2
Respecting Ulyukaev or not, agreeing with him or not is the business of everyone who considers themselves competent enough in these matters, but I think that the words of a leader of this level should be quoted verbatim)

[Kos_kalinki9]

One thing is clear. We still have a government.

[fa2998]

The Russian economy will rise with an increase in labor productivity, and naturally the personal interest of the employee in the results of his activities. DIRECT-done more, received more. And now, all efforts are at work, some have an increase with inflation, others have not changed, and still others -On the contrary, reduction (allegedly a crisis). And the "masters of life" are all right, in chocolate. And there are no prospects ... THE AUTHORITIES CAN A SOME APPETITE TO MEASURE, AND GIVE A LITTLE PEOPLE, and everything will move!

[Homo]

Quote: fa2998

The Russian economy will rise with an increase in labor productivity — and naturally, an employee’s personal interest in the results of their activities. DIRECT –– more –– ––––––––––––––––––––––

This is all correct, but there is another big problem. Today the anti-Bolshevik slogan "who does not work eats" is in effect! Compare the salaries of the military, police, miners, agricultural workers and the salaries of TV presenters, journalists, actors, etc. The easier the job, the less benefit it brings to the state, the real impact on GDP (Gross Domestic Product) is for the gifted (so as not confused with Vladimir Vladimirovich ), the higher the salary.

[anip]

Quote: Homo

Compare the salaries of the military, the police

Well, the military and police have such normal salaries. Just to be for Putin, if you suddenly get to what.

[Ugrumiy]

Since the beginning of the year, these salaries have been saved and reduced, along with regular units. As stated above, feed the cow less and milk more!

[Homo]

Quote: anip

Well, the military and police have such normal salaries.

And in comparison with those whom I indicated? Especially if you compare the working conditions!

[parusnik]

Somehow I’m thinking, is it not time for these gentlemen to resign ... against the background of such ideas and results in the economy ..?

[BMW]

Quote: parusnik

but is it time for these gentlemen to resign ..

They said softly, execution for treason and wrecking.

[grandson of the hero]

And this is the long-awaited 37 year. Repression, you know.
If we come to a solution to the issue with empathy, attract for wrecking and high treason, the population of remote areas of the Magadan region will increase incredibly.
And then they say Stalin is to blame ... And you do not steal!

[Name]

Quote: parusnik

Somehow, one wonders if it’s time for these gentlemen to resign.

So it's time, and certainly in an isolated, the depth of "resignation" has its own regulations.

[samarin1969]

I have been waiting for such an article for a long time ... Dances with a course are credited to the "Kremlin dreamers" ... How much more highly educated nonsense of the Ministry of Economic Development and the Ministry of Finance should be listened to to be washed away by some "wave" ... Russia's sense of self-preservation has obviously dulled.

[panin58.58mail.ru]

As usual, everything falls on the shoulders of ordinary people, and the oligarchs build the world's largest yachts and buy real estate in London!

[anip]

Quote: panin58.58mail.ru

oligarchs build the world's largest yachts and buy real estate in London!

And they call on the common people to patriotism and "tighten their belts", "be patient."

[asiat_61]

I am ready to tighten the belt tighter, they have a delicate neck.

[egor1712]

The guy is a smother. How can they not notice this?
The explanation is simple, they are all there. Caring for the people? Where exactly. "War is bullshit, the main thing is maneuvers." - there is such an expression. This is for the guys who are now engaged in economic policy - the principle of activity.

[shonsu]

the author is a short-sighted person or provocateur. he turned over all the facts and turned them upside down. even it makes no sense to prove something on each thesis, the whole article is distorted.

[rotmistr60]

Improving the efficiency of the economy by stimulating investment demand by reducing current consumption.

That is, with an increase in inflation, salaries are not only not indexed, but also reduced (under the guise of sanctions), the indexation of pensions is reduced in 2016 - 7%, in 2017 - 5%, from 2018 - 0%. This is how they "reduce current consumption". "Excellent" care for the people. It seems to me that the effectiveness of the state should be determined by taking care of pensioners (old people) and the attitude towards the dead. Look at work pensions and go to a morgue (not private) at least once and everything will fall into place.
But in the photo of the face of a happy person, in whom everything turned out in life, it’s good that he is a minister.

[anip]

Quote: rotmistr60

salaries are not only not indexed, but also reduced (hiding behind sanctions)

Yes, these sanctions are more invented by the Russian rulers than in fact, because they are beneficial to them, because under the cries of sanctions it is more convenient to rob people.

[SERGEI]

Only the lazy one does not speak about resignation, but in order for this to happen, personal betrayal is necessary to himself. He is afraid to disperse all this lazy shobla, at once everyone will become opposition (they have torn off the trough). As long as economic issues are resolved in favor of the banks, there will be no sense. What is it like "we will carry out additional capitalization of the bank" -they are crap, and we save? Any of the monsters - SB, VTB ... They are all half and more private, that is, we will give money to Gref. Personally, in one mug. Eat. The greatest banker. But I also want additional capitalization, because it comes at the expense of my taxes, disintegrating medicine (in our district hospital, all specialists have already been optimized, now only Krasnodar or a private trader), and education. My child graduated from school at age 12 with gold - every month 12000 rubles were spent on tutors for the last 3 years, otherwise the school curriculum and the USE will not grow together. Well, they don't teach in schools what to take. .And the greatest economists. How did we live with one with one Sberbank?

[anip]

Quote: SERGEII

What is it like "we will carry out additional capitalization of the bank" -they are crap, and we save?

So in Russia it is, for the people they are yelling about the market, which itself will regulate everything, and as these marketers are all screwing it up, they suddenly forget about the market, immediately give them state finances (in other words, earned by the people).

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Against the background of Glazyev’s programs, this doesn’t even draw on children's babble

[valokordin]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Against the background of Glazyev’s programs, this doesn’t even draw on children's babble

Hence the conclusion Ulyukaev is the Minister of Economic Underdevelopment.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: mirag2

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

I see that pensioners work a lot. Mom says that under socialism, few pensioners worked after retirement. Some bosses, doctors, teachers. Women have longer lifespan. Men leave before that. And they won’t survive at all! Economically!

[Gomunkul]

Mom says that under socialism few pensioners worked after retirement.

My grandparents (they worked all my life at the factory) had a pension under the USSR of 132 rubles for each, the engineer’s salary was 180 rubles. Directions in transport: tram 3 kopecks, trolley 5 kopecks, bus 6 kopecks. a loaf of bread 18 kopecks, a loaf of white 20 kopecks. so that there is something to compare.

[nikolaev]

Ulyukayev's hooting is of a mitic-covering nature. And meanwhile "Vaska listens and eats." Soon, with such a "competent" leadership, inedible scraps will remain from the Russian economy.

[afrikanez]

It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

No need to raise anything. You just have to chop off your hands for stealing a pension fund.

[Reptiloid]

For 20 years of socialism - what?
for 20 years of capitalism - what?
Despite the fact that managers have some kind of education.
Or were they initially mentally retarded, but their education did not change?

[Million]

"According to Ulyukaev's department, investments will also grow. It is they who should give impetus to the Russian economy."

But PETRO 1 did not need investments! Therefore, he is GREAT!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Million

But PETRA 1 did not need investments

And who melted the bells on the guns? The Orthodox Church’s direct investment in the arms industry ... it is rumored that it’s not entirely voluntary

[kotvov]

And who melted the bells on the guns? ,,
and for some reason, we decided to recapitalize banks, at an increase in rates. That is, banks that are essentially just a transmission link begin to engage in speculation. The dollar exchange rate is growing, and factory factories can’t take out a loan for development, because of excessive interest.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: kotvov

and for some reason, we decided to recapitalize banks, at an increase in rates. That is, banks that are essentially just a transmission link begin to engage in speculation. The dollar exchange rate is growing, and factory factories can’t take out a loan for development, because of excessive interest.

I already wrote a lot about all this. There is Glazyev who understands how the economy works. And there are a bunch of "comrades" - Nabiullina, Ulyukaev, Kudrin and others, who never grew out of the primitive and unjustified combination of the "free market" with the theory of monetarism. To whom it all seems that the state should control only the size of the money supply, and the invisible hand of the market will correct the rest. These IMF manuals have not worked in any country, but here they will definitely work! Rave. And deep incompetence. And a complete inability to learn even from their mistakes.
And about Peter - it was a joke, although in every joke ... when it was necessary for the Swede to use the face on the table, but the resource was not enough, Peter (according to rumors) slightly ... how would I say ... redistributed the blessings from the Church to the benefit of the gunners. And not that the clergy took this idea with enthusiasm. Although among Orthodox priests there were always more than just grabbers, maybe someone supported.

[mikh-korsakov]

A funny man is this Ulyukaev. He always makes team predictions from above. They ordered him from the Kremlin - in 2016, so that there would be economic growth, otherwise ...! And now he is already reporting - so surely there will be economic growth - only small. Two days before, Nabiullina and Siluanov competed in gloomy forecasts, apparently Nabiullina seemed to have little approval from overseas. A day later, Deputy Nabiullina Yudaeva decided to sit up the boss and prophesied that the Russian economy would generally fall for a few more quarters, and, they say, we'll see. And then Ulyukaev hurries to check out, they say, yes, we have bad business. It is characteristic that both Yaresko in Ukraine and Yudaev are both American henchmen - but Yareska is optimistic, and Yudaeva is pessimistic. In general - it's time to change the girls in our economic block

[ramzes1776]

To drive such a pseudo-minister on a filthy broom along with the entire ministry. Let the gypsies vang along with them.

[Stalnov I.P.]

Rotten GOVERNMENT EGGS - ECONOMIC UNIT HEADED BY THE PREMIER, there is nothing to talk and discuss about them, they are rotten and rotten in Africa. Yes, and all the power, do not you think the same smacks of?

[karal]

Ulyukaevshchina must be fought, otherwise the Russian economy will be covered with a copper basin! As Mikhail Delyagin said in one article, not a single prediction of the would-be minister has come true until now. And from myself I will add - "... and it will not come true."

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Quote: karal

Ulyukaevshchina must be fought, otherwise the Russian economy will be covered with a copper basin! As Mikhail Delyagin said in one article, not a single prediction of the would-be minister has come true until now. And from myself I will add - "... and it will not come true."

I'm afraid for copper is not enough!

[EFA]

Finally, the label became clear!
The plan was this: we will drop the ruble, plus sanctions, plus a little hysteria, equally - protest moods and akhtung that Mr. Putin.

A year has passed.
Now they finally added up two plus two and realized that the Russian budget was not filled with dollars, but with rubles, and that the low exchange rate turned out to give a good amount to those who receive revenue in foreign currency.

And now they have a new formula: raise the ruble, plus sanctions, plus a LOT of hysteria, plus a mess wherever possible, as well - protest moods and posbleble that Mr. Putin, well, at least a little, even a little.

It’s extremely simplistic and exaggerated for my part, but everything looks just like that.

[Robinzon57]

I ask you to! Speak interestingly, but not everyone knows GREAT ENGLISH! Unfortunately...

Quote: EFA

EFA

[olimpiada15]

As for the growth of labor productivity.
It is a common misconception that this phrase means that workers should work better.
The main thing that gives rise to labor productivity is the purchase and use of automated equipment in the production, and this does not apply to workers, but to the owners of the enterprise and the use of finance to purchase equipment.
For example, at the site, twenty workers stack boards in packages that can pack 40 packs per shift.
The increase in productivity in this case is the purchase of a laying line where one operator will work, perhaps a couple of auxiliary workers to correct the boards moving along the conveyor and the productivity of such a line is 100 packets per day.
Labor productivity has long been dependent not on workers, but on the means of mechanization, i.e. from the employer's desire to spend money on the purchase of equipment. But many "effective" liberal managers have no desire to invest their money in the purchase of equipment and develop production. I got a profit, and in a box for the cordon, so production does not develop, at least as required by the situation in the country.

[Andrey Korotky]

In fact, this is not always the case. Labor productivity is sometimes more efficient to increase due to the organization of labor and optimization of business processes. And the purchase of expensive high-performance equipment sometimes does not pay off at all or leads to a decrease in the profitability of production due to the high costs of the purchase or service. But before to buy something, you need to calculate the rentability. Sometimes, at low volumes of production, it’s more profitable to pay a couple of blacks than to buy an expensive expensive packaging line.
There are good books on this topic "Lean Manufacturing" "Gembo Kaizen" "The 14 Principles of Tao Tyota" "Tools of Lean Manufacturing"

[olimpiada15]

Of course, you always need to calculate.
I gave a special example where, instead of two dozen people, 2-3 people will work and generate several times more. Yesterday on TV they showed the sorting of potatoes, which is familiar to most of those who "went to buy potatoes" in Soviet times - hundreds of people involved in this manual could not cope with this work, probably at least half of the potatoes rotted. And here they are standing at the conveyor, quickly thrown away - it will take no more than an hour to sort the machine, which is very important during the period of harvesting and preserving the crop.
The fact is that we have a lot of heavy inefficient manual labor. People become disabled after 10-15 years. Here you have to get rid of it.
Here we are talking about increasing labor productivity throughout the country, and this is always mass production, large volumes and nothing can be done manually.
Of course, there is another extreme. Timber merchants are taken to Canada and shown production, where a line is several kilometers long and not a single worker. All in oh-no, you do not have to pay wages, taxes, comply with labor protection requirements — what a saving! But they don’t think about the fact that for a continuous technical process it is necessary to have a very serious preparation of production, spare sets of equipment, a repair service of qualified specialists, special diagnostic equipment — and this will cost a lot, but they don’t show this anymore.

[Vladimir 1964]

What are the arguments in favor of increasing investment Ulyukaev? It turns out that now investors do not want to actively invest in projects in Russia, because, you see, they are concerned about the low exchange rate of the Russian currency

I have an acquaintance in Slovakia, a medium-sized businessman, met during my service at the Central Headquarters, sometimes we correspond.
Well, he claims just the opposite, that a low ruble exchange rate is beneficial for him, and they do not want to invest in the Russian economy, due to the lack of a clear economic policy in Russia, the government shying from side to side, in a word - the lack of stability discourages investors. Plus, the content of the business is quite expensive; he so softly calls corruption. That's really who he is, Ulyukaev, he does not know.
And in my heart I think that he was lucky in this that he does not know Ulyukaev, I would very much like that we all “do not know Ulyukaev”, maybe then economic policy will appear.

Here is such a naive thought visited.

[michajlo]

Vladimir 1964 (2) SU Today, 09:50

What are the arguments in favor of increasing investment Ulyukaev? It turns out that now investors do not want to actively invest in projects in Russia, because, you see, they are concerned about the low exchange rate of the Russian currency ...

I have an acquaintance in Slovakia, a medium-sized businessman, met during my service at the Central Headquarters, sometimes we correspond.

Greetings Vladimir!

About Slovakia, I can speak more accurately than from other people's words, because lived there for 17 years.
Corruption in Slovakia, EXACTLY SUCH the same as in Russia, is simply more culturally robbed or sent to you, but at exactly the same distance as Russia.

There is NO big money in Slovakia, all the remnants of the social industry - BROKEN by several dozen people "with sharp elbows" (Slovak expression), all average businessmen "sleep and see" (Slovak expression) GET or establish business with Russia, as there is money and PAYMENTABLE (not on credit) DEMAND ...

Slovakia itself is tormented by high unemployment (10-15% officers, but actually 25-35%), a large number of people working abroad (400-500 thousand out of 5 million people), officers. 250 thousand but really up to 800 thousand. gypsies, 99% of which DO NOT WORK!

And much more, why none of the Russians who visited the Czech Republic and Slovakia on a 1-2-week tourist tour JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND, but drools and tells tales in Russia about how CULTURAL AND RICH rich people live in Eastern Europe. ORDER CITIZENS !?

Michael, Slovakia.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: michajlo

About Slovakia, I can speak more accurately than from other people's words, because lived there for 17 years.
Corruption in Slovakia, EXACTLY SUCH the same as in Russia, is simply more culturally robbed or sent to you, but at exactly the same distance as Russia.

There is NO big money in Slovakia, all the remnants of the social industry - BROKEN by several dozen people "with sharp elbows" (Slovak expression), all average businessmen "sleep and see" (Slovak expression) GET or establish business with Russia, as there is money and PAYMENTABLE (not on credit) DEMAND ...

Mikhail, and I'm not going to argue. The last time I was in Bratislava and Komarno was in 2011. Regarding the corruption there, you yourself absolutely correctly wrote, there it is "softer", but it's not even about softness. She's rather not suffocating there. That's the kind of way I found the wording.
And my comrade under the communists worked in Velkom Krtysh at the Liaz backwater and after the divorce he moved to Moravia, his bed was on wooden structures. All workers are Slovaks.

Well, like that.

[michajlo]

Vladimir 1964 (2) SU Today, 12:24 ↑

Quote: michajlo
...
And my comrade under the communists worked in Velkom Krtysh at the Liaz backwater and after the divorce he moved to Moravia, his bed was on wooden structures. All workers are Slovaks.

Greetings Vladimir!
Sorry, but forced to correct your inaccuracies.
Your Slovak buddy has long been working in the Czech Republic (Morava is the eastern part of the Czech Republic), it has a slightly different WORKING climate, more jobs than in Slovakia, and the Czechs, unlike the Slovaks, have LESSERIZED their industry, heavy and defense, although the Germans already own factories and other European firms.
A lot of Slovaks work constantly or on a rotational basis in the Czech Republic, since there are MORE jobs ...
And in Velký Krtish in Slovakia, at the former Liaz factory, there were only miserable remnants from the former bus giant Liaz.
Under the same brand in the same Czech Republic and now buses are produced ...
Such are the "small details from the sex life of insects."

I wish you all the best!

Michael, Smolensk.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Well, so he claims just the opposite, that a low ruble exchange rate is beneficial to him

So this was the main argument in favor of the collapse of the ruble. They say right now the industry will work, due to low costs - and now Ulyukaev does the opposite

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Stirbjorn

So this was the main argument in favor of the collapse of the ruble. They say right now the industry will work, due to low costs - and now Ulyukaev does the opposite

Mikhail, the "low ruble" is beneficial to our exporters (Gazprom in particular) and to imports who supply us with goods. For the man in the street, the fall of the ruble is poverty in any case.
But Ulyukaev’s nonsense, it’s about nothing, at present the oil industry’s profits are growing, despite the fall in oil prices, although this is partially due to increased production.

Well, the type of thought outlined.

[astronom1973n]

In our city in Siberia, new "high-tech" enterprises have recently opened hypermarkets "tape" (the third is already under construction), Leroy Monroe is preparing! And ... pubs through the house !!! Business! Investments! Blah blah blah!!! Glory to the great party !!! And real production is like that .. puffs something on the equipment probably still from the Demidov times .... The word rent has become more common. It is sad. Increase in labor productivity can be achieved: either by improving the tools of production, or by increasing the intensity of labor by increasing the working day. Efficiency of enterprises and organizations. in our reality, this is the reduction of positions and the shifting of their duties (vacancies) onto the shoulders of those who remain, while maintaining the same salary. New equipment that would allow something to be improved is not purchased due to the high cost (they explain that it will be okay to work blacks), and if anything purchased (this is really an edge in general) is of very low quality.
What for efficiency and increased productivity. Where is the growth of the economy?
Huh?

[VEKT]

In our city in Siberia, new "high-tech" enterprises have recently opened hypermarkets "tape" (the third is already under construction), Leroy Monroe is preparing! And ... pubs through the house !!! Business! Investments! Blah blah blah!!! Glory to the great party !!! And real production is like that .. puffs something on the equipment probably still from the Demidov times .... The word rent has become more common. It is sad. Increase in labor productivity can be achieved: either by improving the tools of production, or by increasing the intensity of labor by increasing the working day. Efficiency of enterprises and organizations. in our reality, this is the reduction of positions and the shifting of their duties (vacancies) onto the shoulders of those who remain, while maintaining the same salary. New equipment that would allow something to be improved is not purchased due to the high cost (they explain that it will be okay to work blacks), and if anything purchased (this is really an edge in general) is of very low quality.
What for efficiency and increased productivity. Where is the growth of the economy?
Huh?

The same situation, only in the central zone. Over the past year, 2 more hypermarkets, Lenta and Metro, have opened. The plant of road cars are going to close, all in debt.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: VEKT

The same situation, only in the central zone. Over the past year, 2 more hypermarkets, Lenta and Metro, have opened. The plant of road cars are going to close, all in debt.

Colleagues, and such a situation throughout the country, in particular in the South, I myself live in the Krasnodar Territory.
So.

[question]

Instead of correctly calculating in which regions, which industry, which enterprises to build (re-profile), the ruble will again drop. Closer to a hundred, we’ll grow more reliable,

[michajlo]

Welcome all!

The topic is sore about acute.
The standard requirements of the "Employer" were slowly transferred to Russia from the West
to "Employee":

1) After 35 years - DO NOT NEED a waste!
2) The ideal employee is "25 years with 15 years of experience !?"

This is not fiction, this is reality, alas !!!

I’ve managed to get a RVP for 3 years and make a registration for 3 years for a year of living in Russia, but the accumulations are over,
but there is NO WORK!

The most cultural responses from the Human Resources Department, or during an additional telephone call, if ATTENTION they will send you a Refusal:

- "You are too knowledgeable and too experienced!"
- should we take a young one and teach him something in 5 years?

what, both in the West and in Russia, suggests that the enterprise does not need SPECIALISTS with practical experience and rich knowledge, since they CAN then take the chairs of "so-called Chief Specialists" and "so-called Leading workers" !?

And this despite the fact that I position myself as a "Technical Specialist" and not as a "Universal Manager" ...

It’s sad how everything looks, but LIFE does not let more joyfully.
And the prices in the store or for renting a room are pricked ...

Michael, Smolensk.

[anip]

Quote: michajlo

1) After 35 years - DO NOT NEED a waste!
2) The ideal employee is "25 years with 15 years of experience !?"

This is not fiction, this is reality, alas !!!

This is so, we know, we know. Nothing has changed since the 90s, when specialists were needed to work no older than 27-30 years with two diverse higher educations and at least 5 years of experience.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: michajlo

After 35 years - DO NOT NEED a waste!

Mikhail, you are just writing about me.
Unfortunately, this is exactly what happens.

Quote: michajlo

- "You are too knowledgeable and too experienced!"
- should we take a young one and teach him something in 5 years?

almost so experienced on myself.

That's it.

[Volzhanin]

All this resembles some kind of theater of the absurd! Surrealism in its purest form!
The whole country knows that the economic bloc of government is nits and critters, deceitful, narrow-minded, incompetent crooks. The scum of society, so to speak.
However, these creatures rule the ball!
I have already curled milk from their impudence.
Or is our leader waiting for some significant reason to disperse these bastards?

[Andrey Korotky]

"Improving the efficiency of the economy by stimulating investment demand by reducing current consumption."
Well, it’s finally some kind of scribe! Ulyukaev himself understood that he froze when consumption was reduced, demand decreases and the volume of sales decreases accordingly. Respectively and production volumes fall, which means profit will decrease. What sensible investor will invest loot in an enterprise whose profitability falls? Based on the logic of this cake, a decrease in car production in the Russian Federation due to a 35% drop in sales due to a decrease in demand this year should have caused an unprecedented investment boom in the industry. Some kind of nonsense ... And the result is that the opposite is the opposite for manufacturers market.

[Gomunkul]

Ulyukaev himself understood that he froze

Maybe he's just not literate?

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: Andrey Korotky

"Improving the efficiency of the economy by stimulating investment demand by reducing current consumption."
Well, it’s finally some kind of scribe! Ulyukaev himself understood that he froze when consumption was reduced, demand decreases and the volume of sales decreases accordingly. Respectively and production volumes fall, which means profit will decrease. What sensible investor will invest loot in an enterprise whose profitability falls?

A similar statement by Ulyukaev, painfully reminds me of verbal pearls Yatsenyuk.

Like so.

[loaln]

"Harry Potter School".
Yes, not a single financial and economic management or education body and next to it is embarrassing to compare. And not because it carries a mossy stupidity from them, but maybe something else. The main thing is that these are self-locking machines for transforming the well-being of the country and people, if not de-mo, then into what they themselves could consume.
And on all the rest they do not care. No, for the rest there is spruce Noodle on the ears. Daily.

[Belousov]

You look at such ministers, at such heads of the Central Bank, Sberbank and others, and you understand that if they are sitting in their places, then Putin is pleased with them, then their work suits him, that means they fulfill the tasks assigned to them. And we can clearly see what the goal is in front of Nabiullina, Siluanov, Golodets, Skvortsova and other dvorovichi, Sechins, Millers and Rottenbergs - exclusively the collapse of the country, the dulling of the nation, the undermining of health, the replacement of the indigenous population by Caucasians and Asians. So the same goal is facing ...?

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Quote: Belousov

we see what the goal for Nabiullina, Siluanov, Golodets, Skvortsova and other dvorkovichs, Sechins, Millers and Rottenbergs is - exclusively the collapse of the country, the dulling of the nation, undermining health, the replacement of the indigenous population by Caucasians and Asians. So the same goal is facing ...?

Incompetence, illiteracy, banal laziness and lack of desire to work not for one's own pocket, but for the good of the Motherland and the nation (which applies to many: from the first pasha to the last beggar) - these are the reasons for our problems, and not some mythological "conspiracies".

[Horn]

All over the world, during such crises, they try to stimulate demand, they even stupidly throw money at people (Australia), lower prices for goods! But it is all over the world. And here we have - Ulyukaevschina ... and a little Sahip

[Zaus]

He who wants to work will find work.

Work and make money are two very similar words. But the meaning is different. Find a job for work or find work to earn? It is unlikely that most people dream of work that you need to go to, but from which there is no increase in the family budget .. And yes, it’s easy to find a job (low-paid) ...

[Tambov Wolf]

Something today is not the first article with the government punks being published on the site. It is not clear why. Or the administrators today have a sabantui and the guys joking or have received a "directive" to promote these punks into "good people". But, as they say, like a wolf feed, and the elephant has more eggs.

[breath]

In order not to inflame the stealing king, they pull the boyars into the circle one at a time and poke them with a finger to mark them incompetent.
And it doesn't come to anyone that the formula "The Tsar is good, these are bad boyars" has not worked for 700 years already.

[uskrabut]

all our troubles come from the fact that our economy is distributive. the main part of the national income from the sale of fuel and raw materials, to open an enterprise is troublesome and expensive in the conditions of our laws. therefore, the fewer bablos get to people, the more they will (ulyukaev. Hence the lack of interest in developing their own production. sold gas - boiled, bought junk and havchik; sold junk and havchik and boiled again. ordinary people - extra mouths than there are fewer of them, the more dough you can keep yourself.Wages are now enough only for a communal apartment and devour

[MuadDib]

From the article, I concluded that neither Ulyukaev nor his colleagues in the Ministry of Economic Development opened textbooks on economic theory.

[Governor]

If the president of a country like Russia cannot create tens of percent economic growth, then such a president must be judged for treason.
Because Russia is a priori a rich country, and the guarantor deliberately slows down its development.

[Crown]

Quote: RU-Officer

mirag2:
It is necessary to raise the retirement age. And not gradually, but right away. The people should work, especially now.

I don’t understand something ... "mirag2", dear, are you kidding? So learn to at least use emoticons. If we admit that there is not even a hint of a joke in your words, I would like to know how you earn (or earned) for your "piece of bread"? Still, I hope - please joke. Then be careful - the people are hotter and hotter every day ...

I probably walked with my brothers, once in the 90s I was chic

[vladimirvn]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Regarding the corruption there, you yourself wrote absolutely correctly, there it is "softer", but it's not even a matter of softness. She's rather not suffocating there. That's the type I found the wording.

And we really have suffocating corruption. Example today, I was forced to apply with an injury, an injury from my wife. They brought to the emergency room, while the nurse sat in the hallway, avoided looking into her eyes, calling to talk, like give me money (don’t think of another, it wasn’t laughing). Did not give. The doctor, piglet, 25 years old, said that it was too late, she could not do anything, she had to get to her within an hour and sent her to the local doctor at the other end of the city. The one in touch, such as an urgent need to go to the hospital and show a good specialist. I want to buy a machine somewhere and go to a showdown.

[GraveBezKresta]

Here are Putin's "friends". They receive 1,5-2 million a day (officially rubles). Unofficially, you can safely multiply, well ... let's say 10 times. For me, these are social parasites or ticks. They would have been crushed long ago, but there is a guarantor. However, the patience of the people is already running out. And somewhere it will explode. It won't be Mindan - it will be something else ...

[Robinzon57]

Quote: Grave without Cross

Here are Putin's "friends". They receive 1,5-2 million a day (officially rubles). Unofficially, you can safely multiply, well ... let's say 10 times. For me, these are social parasites or ticks. They would have been crushed long ago, but there is a guarantor. However, patience

Even Gref and Chubais forgot, Very colorful chelas.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Labor made a man out of a monkey; he will also make Russia a prosperous country.

[Robinzon57]

Quote: ALEA IACTA EST

ALEA IACTA EST (1) Yesterday, 19:56
Labor made a man out of a monkey; he will also make Russia a prosperous country.

COURT will make Russia a prosperous country!

[vladimirvn]

They say that soon it will be good. Who soon will be well - do not say.

[sapporo1959]

Economists and ministers deserved as dogs, but why is my pension in dollars halved not known? These are our squiggles, unfortunately. By the way, they want to surprise the world with a championship, but there is no money to compensate for pensions for inflation.

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When will this adult husband, who managed to save the brain of the baby, leave the ruling offices ?? !!