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FLIR Systems will provide thermal imagers to the Ukrainian Armed Forces

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The US-Swedish company FLIR Systems signed a memorandum of cooperation with the state-owned Ukroboronprom, which implies the provision of the Ukrainian army with optical equipment, reports MIC with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.




The document was signed at the exhibition “Weapon and security. "

The Director General of the Ukrainian concern Roman Romanov said that “the cooperation plans worked out by the parties provide for the modernization and equipping of modern optical equipment of the Ukrainian aviation and armored vehicles, as well as the supply of thermal imagers in the interests of the Armed Forces. "

“We are planning technology transfer and assembly at facilities in Ukraine,” he said. - The Aviakon Aviation Factory (Sumy Region), the Zhytomyr Armored Plant (ZHBTZ), the Kharkov Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after Morozova (KMDB), as well as the state enterprise Cherkassy Plant of Photographic Instruments. ”

At the present time, according to Romanov, “the conditions for cooperation are being worked out”.

FLIR Systems is a renowned manufacturer of thermal imaging technology.
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  1. Basarev
    Basarev 24 September 2015 16: 14 New
    +4
    Fools ... Drive yourself even further into imports and take pride in it.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 24 September 2015 16: 17 New
      +4
      Screwdriver production and supply of LDNR along the way. As usual: business, nothing personal.
    2. vkl-47
      vkl-47 24 September 2015 16: 19 New
      +8
      Provide them with better TVs. They don’t know what’s going on in the world
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 24 September 2015 16: 21 New
      +2
      “We are planning technology transfer and assembly at facilities in Ukraine,” he said. - The Aviakon Aviation Factory (Sumy Region), the Zhytomyr Armored Plant (ZHBTZ), the Kharkov Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after Morozova (KMDB), as well as the state enterprise Cherkassy Plant of Photographic Instruments. ”


      Yeah, so the Swedes will share their technologies ... They will entrust you with the maximum amount of glue on the bar code and the Laybu at the listed enterprises. Although maybe I am mistaken, and we will finally see a Ukrainian worker in a sterile embroidery following the programming procedure of a European machine. Where the robotic arm will assemble the chips and mount the LCD matrix.
      1. demon1978
        demon1978 24 September 2015 16: 53 New
        +5
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Where the robotic arm will collect chips and mount the LCD matrix.


        You forgot to mention that the robot will also be in an embroidered shirt, will work on fat (most likely imported) and a burner, periodically jump, while broadcasting, unreasonable, but VERY untenable slogans yes

        The prototype is likely to be called Mykola or Arseny. request
    4. hydrox
      hydrox 24 September 2015 16: 21 New
      +3
      Interestingly, at what price will it be pushed on the black market?
      Or does someone think that he will stand on military equipment?
      They won’t get to the front - they’ll write off for military losses, because the radars from the Yavoriv training ground were already stolen!
      1. Olegovi4
        Olegovi4 24 September 2015 23: 53 New
        0
        Quote: hydrox
        Yavorov landfill

        well, as they called it "steamboat, so it will float."
    5. Denis DV
      Denis DV 25 September 2015 04: 18 New
      -5
      Do not care, all one, ours will be laughing
    6. Doomph
      Doomph 25 September 2015 08: 17 New
      -3
      As in the old joke:
      -Come on, come on, drive me into debt!
      )))
  2. Alexnder
    Alexnder 24 September 2015 16: 15 New
    +5
    Ha, they’ll hand over the metal ....
    There was already a case!
  3. biolant
    biolant 24 September 2015 16: 15 New
    0
    “We are planning technology transfer and assembly at facilities in Ukraine,” he said. - The Aviakon Aviation Factory (Sumy Region), the Zhytomyr Armored Plant (ZHBTZ), the Kharkov Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering named after Morozova (KMDB), as well as the state enterprise Cherkassy Plant of Photographic Instruments. ”

    At the present time, according to Romanov, “the conditions for cooperation are being worked out”.

    I wonder how many percent of the shares will go to foreign investors? Or vice versa - will they be hastily destroyed in order to supply their products?
  4. Smoked
    Smoked 24 September 2015 16: 17 New
    +1
    And who will pay for the banquet?
  5. sinukvl
    sinukvl 24 September 2015 16: 18 New
    +1
    To ensure that their FLIR Systems will provide, but that's where they will put them on all the remaining 3 aircraft and 62 tanks? And what is the most interesting cost of this equipment will not be many times higher than the cost of the equipment on which they are going to put it? A FLIR good civilian portable thermal imager costs about 3 rubles.
    1. rosarioagro
      rosarioagro 24 September 2015 16: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: sinukvl
      FLIR Systems, will provide, only that's where they will put them

      They must be put on drones with ATGMs
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 24 September 2015 16: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: rosarioagro
        They must be put on drones with ATGMs

        That is, Ukrainians also have to buy them?
        And most importantly - for UAVs in those parts of some kind of geopathic zone. Even the OSCE regularly loses the signal from its UAVs ... along with vehicles.

        But in the photo from those regions beyond the faces of the fighters sometimes extremely catchy antennas come across ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 September 2015 17: 10 New
          0
          Soon, the United States will throw them ATGM Tou and other weapons, and there, along with thermal imagers, will enter the international black arms market.
        2. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 25 September 2015 06: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Even the OSCE regularly loses the signal from its UAVs ... along with vehicles.

          The loss of a signal, even for a civil Phantom, is not fatal, it will return home via satellite navigation, the non-civil version should also have an inertial
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 25 September 2015 11: 43 New
            0
            Quote: rosarioagro
            The loss of a signal, even for a civil Phantom, is not fatal, it will return home via satellite navigation, the non-civil version should also have an inertial

            In theory, yes. The problem is that for some reason, the same OSCE UAV, after losing the signal to the base, did not return, although it should have.
  6. mig31
    mig31 24 September 2015 16: 20 New
    +2
    It’s a pitiful semblance of some kind of activity of the Ministry of Defense, I’d like to ask - and what the hell is it for them, if there is no system of command and control, something reminiscent of the union of Baba Yaga and Koshchei immortal ...
  7. Professor
    Professor 24 September 2015 16: 22 New
    +3
    FLIR Systems is a renowned manufacturer of thermal imaging technology.

    Not just famous, but also quite successful, it supplies the market with a wide range of advanced devices.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 24 September 2015 16: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: Professor
      FLIR Systems is a renowned manufacturer of thermal imaging technology.

      Not just famous, but also quite successful, it supplies the market with a wide range of advanced devices.


      No one questions this. Interesting is the process of localization of assembly in Ukraine and sales.
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 24 September 2015 16: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU

        No one questions this. Interesting is the process of localization of assembly in Ukraine and sales.

        Well, with sales, everything is just clear. A part of Zakharchenko will be taken away, a part will be screwed for the Chinese, some will be broken - suddenly there are gold contacts! The rest on Privoz will come up.
        1. Professor
          Professor 24 September 2015 17: 07 New
          +3
          Quote: SoboL
          Well, with sales, everything is just clear. A part of Zakharchenko will be taken away, a part will be screwed for the Chinese, some will be broken - suddenly there are gold contacts! The rest on Privoz will come up.

          I understand that hatred does not allow the majority of those present here to calmly discuss any news with the keyword "Ukraine", but still. Forts surfaced at Privoz? Or maybe in the North Caucasus the militants switched from your Kalash to the M-16? Maybe corruption in the military-industrial complex won in your homeland? No? Then let's stay within the bounds of decency. soldier
          1. Sobol
            Sobol 24 September 2015 17: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Quote: SoboL
            Well, with sales, everything is just clear. A part of Zakharchenko will be taken away, a part will be screwed for the Chinese, some will be broken - suddenly there are gold contacts! The rest on Privoz will come up.

            I understand that hatred does not allow the majority of those present here to calmly discuss any news with the keyword "Ukraine", but still. Forts surfaced at Privoz? Or maybe in the North Caucasus the militants switched from your Kalash to the M-16? Maybe corruption in the military-industrial complex won in your homeland? No? Then let's stay within the bounds of decency. soldier

            Yes, there is no hatred in me, Professor. Militants in the Caucasus do not need m-16s, and corruption in the military-industrial complex has nothing to do with it. Moreover, all these wonderful pieces will not begin to leave the assembly line, but the cyborgs themselves will make up from the turntables. Look, as an example, American radars. The Yankees did not have time to turn away, as a couple of their local radar detectors were tearing the colormet. That’s what I’m talking about.
            1. Professor
              Professor 24 September 2015 17: 26 New
              -1
              Quote: SoboL
              . Moreover, all these wonderful pieces will not begin to leave the assembly line, but the cyborgs themselves will make up from the turntables. Look, as an example, American radars. The Yankees did not have time to turn away, as a couple of their local radar detectors were tearing the colormet. That’s what I’m talking about.

              I repeat. Your not stealing? They don’t sell weapons to Chechens anymore?
              Let's discuss the materiel- Flir.

              PS
              Thermal imagers are now used not only in technology ...
              1. dauria
                dauria 24 September 2015 17: 48 New
                +4
                Let's discuss the materiel


                Ai-ai-ay, professor. To discuss the materiel, you need to finish school, then five years to learn any garbage from the Cauchy theorem, the Heisenberg relation to the three sources of Marxism. To get to the place where they’re doing this materiel well, at least for some reason (at least they wipe the dust). Then DO NOT get anywhere for a discussion of this equipment. It’s up to you everything from hydrodynamics to prosthetics. What are we doing? You are smart, and so we went for a walk. wink
                But seriously, the “memorandum” and the news are not worth it to feverishly study the product line of someone there. You never know what they are doing in the world.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 24 September 2015 18: 56 New
                  -2
                  Quote: dauria
                  But seriously, the “memorandum” and the news are not worth it to feverishly study the product line of someone there. You never know what they are doing in the world.

                  Even as they stand. The only way to develop yourself is to study the materiel, whether it be at least the product line of someone out there from one of the world leaders in the production of thermal imagers.

                  PS
                  Regarding dental prosthetics ... Just now I am studying the manufacturing process for the production of zirconium implants: casting, removing a binder, firing, etc.

                  Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                  Ukraine introduced Russia into its military doctrine as a likely adversary. In my example, Iran will begin to lead and supply C-300?

                  Yes, even though she wrote the Pope somewhere. Site rules must be followed.
              2. Sobol
                Sobol 24 September 2015 18: 54 New
                +2
                Quote: Professor

                I repeat. Your not stealing? They don’t sell weapons to Chechens anymore?
                Let's discuss the materiel- Flir.

                PS
                Thermal imagers are now used not only in technology ...

                Yes, like yours. One such seller of weapons to the Chechens, in our location with a bullet in the back of his head, was suddenly discovered. So they fought as best they could.
          2. TOR2
            TOR2 24 September 2015 17: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Kalash on the M-16

            From AK to M-16, only geyropa switches.
            1. Professor
              Professor 24 September 2015 17: 30 New
              -1
              Quote: TOR2
              From AK to M-16, only geyropa switches.

              What do you prefer to ride in geyropeysky cars? Why do you call normal repair in your dwelling geyropic? You already decide, this is Europe or geyropa.
              1. Nevsky_ZU
                Nevsky_ZU 24 September 2015 17: 34 New
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Quote: TOR2
                From AK to M-16, only geyropa switches.

                What do you prefer to ride in geyropeysky cars? Why do you call normal repair in your dwelling geyropic? You already decide, this is Europe or geyropa.


                And that you are so hooked on the word Geyrop, not Ukraine as us)))
                1. Professor
                  Professor 24 September 2015 17: 38 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                  And that you are so hooked on the word Geyrop, not Ukraine as us)))

                  It touches me when an ordinary article on the production of thermal imagers begins to discuss attracting sex inclinations and inciting ethnic strife.
                  1. Nevsky_ZU
                    Nevsky_ZU 24 September 2015 17: 42 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
                    And that you are so hooked on the word Geyrop, not Ukraine as us)))

                    It touches me when an ordinary article on the production of thermal imagers begins to discuss attracting sex inclinations and inciting ethnic strife.


                    Ukraine introduced Russia into its military doctrine as a likely adversary. In my example, Iran will begin to lead and supply C-300?
                  2. TOR2
                    TOR2 24 September 2015 20: 22 New
                    +3
                    Professor, sexual inclinations and ethnic hatred are completely different things, so do not write nonsense.
                    Quote: Professor
                    Or maybe in the North Caucasus the militants switched from your Kalash to the M-16?
                    If the article is about thermal imagers, what did you suffer in the Caucasus?
              2. TOR2
                TOR2 24 September 2015 20: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: Professor
                What do you prefer to ride in geyropeysky cars? Why do you call normal repair in your dwelling geyropic? You already decide, this is Europe or geyropa.

                I will disappoint you, in my track record there are no cars from those parts. And no one calls it normal repair for so long. It remains the name of the repair in the 90s.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 24 September 2015 20: 45 New
                  -2
                  Quote: TOR2
                  I will disappoint you, in my track record there are no cars from those parts.

                  Dont be upset. Accumulate some money and buy a German car. wink
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 24 September 2015 20: 59 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Professor
                    Quote: TOR2
                    I will disappoint you, in my track record there are no cars from those parts.

                    Dont be upset. Accumulate some money and buy a German car. wink

                    The Japanese are now much more reliable, more comfortable and more affordable. And Korean people have not lagged behind them recently. And the German, judging by the latest scandals that erupted (VW) and threatened to erupt (BMW), that something is not very advanced.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 24 September 2015 21: 03 New
                      -1
                      Quote: andj61
                      And the German, judging by the latest scandals that erupted (VW) and threatened to erupt (BMW), that something is not very advanced.

                      Yah? This is not advanced? lol
                      1. bmv04636
                        bmv04636 24 September 2015 21: 44 New
                        0
                        Oh professor, but how did the Germans go to bed. I have to deceive that it’s bad, isn’t it a professor?
          3. bmv04636
            bmv04636 24 September 2015 21: 43 New
            0
            Why doesn’t it allows, but for some reason, all the new items are quickly put up for sale on ebay. Well, to the extent of corruption in the army of "light elves" to us as if on foot to the moon. Oh sorry, I wanted to say lobbying, is that what you call corruption?
            1. bmv04636
              bmv04636 24 September 2015 22: 08 New
              0
              tomorrow start of production
      2. Herbalist
        Herbalist 25 September 2015 10: 00 New
        0
        Yes, FLIR is a suitable device, somehow it was possible to use the civilian version. Has a good resolution, high-quality indestructible matrix. But recently, the Japanese and NEC have been actively pursuing them, and Israel is also making normal thermal imaging systems. I don’t know about ours, I think that they are behind.
        In general, the supply of such equipment is a dreary affair; in America there is an analogue of the Jackson-Vanik law, which prohibits the transfer not only of technologies, but even of the devices themselves to the countries of the former USSR. There was a period when, for the official use of the American thermal imager, it was necessary to report to the technical department of the Amer embassy for the fact that it was not disassembled and was not transferred for copying. So, apparently, the US defenders were pushing Congress on this topic.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 24 September 2015 20: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Professor
      FLIR Systems is a renowned manufacturer of thermal imaging technology.

      Not just famous, but also quite successful, it supplies the market with a wide range of advanced devices.
      [[/ img]

      It’s hard to call this news:
      1 Memorandum of cooperation does not imply anything but desire.
      2 In this situation, after the appearance of the order of the Government of Ukraine of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine No. 978-r "on the suspension of public debt servicing", this project may not take place at all.
      3 Americans take their technological secrets very seriously and transfer production to a country where they spit on intellectual property, do not respect yourself.
      BRITE Star II
      And in general, apart from gluing labels to such systems, Ukrainians will not be able to count anymore
      1. Professor
        Professor 24 September 2015 20: 24 New
        -2
        Quote: APASUS
        1 Memorandum of cooperation does not imply anything but desire.

        No. These are more than words. This is a message to investors.
        https://www.google.com/finance?q=flir&ei=vzAEVsniAcuKUoemk4gG

        Quote: APASUS
        2 In this situation, after the appearance of the order of the Government of Ukraine of the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine No. 978-r "on the suspension of public debt servicing", this project may not take place at all.

        Flir can place production in Ukraine without financial investments of the government of Ukraine.

        Quote: APASUS
        3 Americans take their technological secrets very seriously and transfer production to a country where they spit on intellectual property, do not respect yourself.

        Nobody is going to transfer EVERYTHING. Even if they pass only the assembly, it will make the product much cheaper. I don’t remember that Ukraine as China took away another's intellectual property.

        Quote: APASUS
        And in general, apart from gluing labels to such systems, Ukrainians will not be able to count anymore

        Wait and see.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 24 September 2015 20: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          No. These are more than words. This is a message to investors. Https: //www.google.com/finance? Q = flir & ei = vzAEVsniAcuKUoemk4gG

          Unfortunately, the link did not open, I still did not understand what was there.
          Quote: Professor
          Flir can place production in Ukraine without financial investments of the government of Ukraine.

          Of course, I heard a lot of things in my life, but so that the Americans are altruists ?? and placed the production of high-tech devices in bankrupt countries, and even at their own expense ??
          The only thing that can be asserted 100% is the desire of the Americans to make Ukraine a buyer of American weapons, but not a manufacturer at all. So they would have transferred everything to China.
          Quote: Professor
          I don’t remember that Ukraine as China took away another's intellectual property.

          You just have not been in the country for a long time, believe me
          Quote: Professor
          Wait and see.

          I think such things leak into the media instantly, you won’t have to wait much
          1. Professor
            Professor 24 September 2015 20: 50 New
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            Quote: APASUS
            Unfortunately, the link did not open, I still did not understand what was there.

            Stock Flir.

            Quote: APASUS
            Of course, I heard a lot of things in my life, but so that the Americans are altruists ?? and placed the production of high-tech devices in bankrupt countries, and even at their own expense ??

            What does a bankrupt country have to do with it? Cheap highly skilled power. That's what is attractive. It was at my own expense that my company in the past built a factory in China (on its own head).

            Quote: APASUS
            The only thing that can be asserted 100% is the desire of the Americans to make Ukraine a buyer of American weapons, but not a manufacturer at all. So they would have transferred everything to China.

            Ukraine is already shifting to NATO standards, and NATO is the number one supplier of weapons.

            Quote: APASUS
            You just have not been in the country for a long time, believe me

            For example.

            Quote: APASUS
            I think such things leak into the media instantly, you won’t have to wait much

            The establishment of such a production process is long. I know from personal experience.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 24 September 2015 21: 34 New
              0
              Quote: Professor
              Stock Flir.

              I don’t think that the FLIR Systems stock jumps really reflect the protocol of intent
              too many factors in stock trading
              Quote: Professor
              What does a bankrupt country have to do with it? Cheap highly skilled power. That's what is attractive.

              Don’t tell me. The stability factor has always been fundamental. It’s ridiculous to transfer even a screwdriver to a country where there is a war. By this logic, Russia 90s should simply become the main producer of high-tech equipment. And here the stability factor played.
              Quote: Professor
              Ukraine is already shifting to NATO standards, and NATO is the number one supplier of weapons.

              This question is certainly not for you, but .................... do you have money? Such a transition requires global funds. These are rather plans for the distant tomorrow!
              Quote: Professor
              For example.

              PTRK Stugna-P does not remind you of anything?
              Quote: Professor
              The establishment of such a production process is long. I know from personal experience

              This is not about the process at all, but rather the conclusion of a real contract.
              1. Professor
                Professor 25 September 2015 07: 54 New
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                Quote: APASUS
                I don’t think that the FLIR Systems stock jumps really reflect the protocol of intent
                too many factors in stock trading

                Horse racing is nothing to do with. The market value of the company is almost $ 4 billion and this deal is too small for leaps. It's about another, about the importance of the memorandum.

                Quote: APASUS
                Don’t tell me. The stability factor has always been fundamental. It’s ridiculous to transfer even a screwdriver to a country where there is a war. By this logic, Russia 90s should simply become the main producer of high-tech equipment. And here the stability factor played.

                In Russia, they did not place high-tech production, and now they do not place it for a completely different reason - Yukos is an example. There is always a war in Israel, look at the level of investment. An investor is only interested in one thing - profit. Ukraine IMHO can now provide it.

                Quote: APASUS
                This question is certainly not for you, but .................... do you have money? Such a transition requires global funds. These are rather plans for the distant tomorrow!

                There is not enough money. There is a desire and sponsors. And the main thing is a political decision. New technology will be NATO standards.

                Quote: APASUS
                PTRK Stugna-P does not remind you of anything?

                Sovdepovsky Brass Knuckles. And whose intellectual property was stolen?

                Quote: APASUS
                This is not about the process at all, but rather the conclusion of a real contract.

                The contract is not the first stage.
                1. APASUS
                  APASUS 25 September 2015 17: 42 New
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  . An investor is only interested in one thing - profit. Ukraine IMHO can now provide it.

                  How so?
                  My brother and I have a hefty construction store in Ukraine, after the recent events it’s impossible to get permission to rent the land of the City Hall or just an extract from the registry. There is practically no power, all officials are afraid to make decisions, sign, allow or prohibit something.
                  There is no one to make basic decisions, and only a politician can seriously talk about investments.
                  Quote: Professor
                  There is always war in Israel, look at the level of investment
                  Israel has power and rules of the game.
                  Quote: Professor
                  In Russia, they did not place high-tech production, and now they do not place it for a completely different reason - Yukos is an example.
                  Why am I not surprised by such an example. When in the USA, for example, taxes are not paid, this is a crime, and in Russia, it should be a commendable letter? Khodorkovsky sat down on an economic clause. There, of course, there is much to discuss, but there is no need to make a martyr of the regime.
                  Quote: Professor
                  And the main thing is a political decision.

                  So you answered all the questions
                  Quote: Professor
                  Sovdepovsky Brass Knuckles. And whose intellectual property was
                  stolen?
                  This is no longer serious, Professor I’ll pick you a dozen more revealing examples, since this one did not reach right away.
                  AKMS-F submachine gun Ukraine, Vinnitsa region, Vinnitsa
                  Look at Kalashnikov in catalogs such a machine gun is listed or ......
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 25 September 2015 20: 40 New
                    0
                    Quote: APASUS
                    How so?

                    My friend, who lives in Canada, has a software company in Ukraine. Man 100. Very satisfied. No default worries him.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    Why am I not surprised by such an example. When in the USA, for example, taxes are not paid, this is a crime, and in Russia, it should be a commendable letter? Khodorkovsky sat down on an economic clause. There, of course, there is much to discuss, but there is no need to make a martyr of the regime.

                    And therefore, now Russia has been sentenced to pay several tens of billions of American rubles to Yukos shareholders? wink

                    Quote: APASUS
                    This is no longer serious, Professor I’ll pick you a dozen more revealing examples, since this one did not reach right away.

                    Dial.

                    Quote: APASUS
                    Look at Kalashnikov in catalogs such a machine gun is listed or ......

                    ... or is there some kind of patent infringement? Which one?
                    1. APASUS
                      APASUS 25 September 2015 21: 20 New
                      0
                      Quote: Professor
                      My friend, who lives in Canada, has a software company in Ukraine. Man 100. Very satisfied. No default worries him.

                      A not-so-good comparison, you can give an example of a homeworker company. Programmers can sit at home and do work, and for firms like FLIR Systems, the participation of authorities is critical.
                      Quote: Professor
                      And therefore, now Russia has been sentenced to pay several tens of billions of American rubles to Yukos shareholders?

                      There are really oddities in the Yukos case, but this decision 4 of them 3 courts were not in favor of the shareholders. This is more of a political decision, there is nothing to discuss
                      Quote: Professor
                      ... or is there some kind of patent infringement? Which one?

                      Do you need a patent number? or the fact of illegal copying you can not determine from the picture?
                      7-8 countries of the world are currently engaged in counterfeit production of Kalashnikov assault rifles. This was announced today at a press conference by special assignment director of Rosoboronexport Nikolai Dimidyuk. According to N. Dimidyuk, “no one in the world has a license to produce the Kalashnikovs. They / licenses / ended with the collapse of the Warsaw Treaty. Mikhail Kalashnikov himself has repeatedly said this. " "Rosoboronexport" appealed to the UN about copyright infringement, - N. Dimidyuk said. - Something has been done over the past two years. Russian leaders have repeatedly talked with heads of state on this subject "
                      1. padded jacket
                        padded jacket 25 September 2015 21: 34 New
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                        Quote: APASUS
                        There are really oddities in the Yukos case, but this decision 4 of them 3 courts were not in favor of the shareholders. This is more of a political decision, there is nothing to discuss

                        Yes, there are no oddities there, all the former owners of Yukos, you yourself know who and Nevzlin are also an Israeli citizen, so the court decision was expected and predictable.
                        They want to rob Russia as in the 90s, different Chubays and Gaidars.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 25 September 2015 21: 39 New
                        0
                        Quote: APASUS
                        A not-so-good comparison, you can give an example of a homeworker company. Programmers can sit at home and do work, and for firms like FLIR Systems, the participation of authorities is critical.

                        What is the meaning? The company builds on its own, etc. The state is required only not to interfere. The president will decide not to touch them and will not touch them (probably).

                        Quote: APASUS
                        This is more a political decision, there is nothing to discuss

                        That's it. There was Yukos, there was a political decision, there was no Yukos, there is nothing to discuss here.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Do you need a patent number? or the fact of illegal copying you can not determine from the picture?

                        Of course you need. No patent and no infringement.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        7-8 countries of the world are currently engaged in counterfeit production of Kalashnikov assault rifles. This was announced today at a press conference by the Director for Special Assignments of Rosoboronexport Nikolai Dimidyuk.

                        The guy is not legally literate. And in general. What is the counterfeit production of automatic machines of the 1947 model? A patent (which by the way has never happened) is valid for 25 years. Those. today anyone can absolutely legally release them.

                        Quote: APASUS
                        Russian leaders have repeatedly talked with heads of state on this subject

                        And what? Did it help? I present this conversation:
                        -You ... This ... Kalashnikovs illegally release ...
                        -Yah?
                        -Well yes.
                        -And then you gunpowder illegally. We invented it. bully
  8. Yunik
    Yunik 24 September 2015 16: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: sinukvl
    Provide them with their FLIR Systems, but where will they put them on all the remaining 3 aircraft and 62 tanks? And what is the most interesting cost of this equipment will not be many times higher than the cost of the equipment on which they are going to put it?
    where to put it today they showed it for Mi-2, from the bottom there are two bolts to be fixed and you can fly, only there are doubts, you have visited so much - will it fly ?!
    1. sinukvl
      sinukvl 24 September 2015 16: 30 New
      +3
      It will take off, it’s not equipped with its suspension with NURSs, it’s rocket accelerators, if they cover the openings of the channels of the missile’s exit channels with a tin, and remove the warhead from the NURSOVs (with a MI-2 mass of 2,5 tons, this is still a question of who will fly the NURSY faster or the helicopter itself). good
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 September 2015 16: 27 New
    +1
    Night Witch will succeed!
  10. svp67
    svp67 24 September 2015 16: 28 New
    +2
    At the present time, according to Romanov, “the conditions for cooperation are being worked out”.
    The main requirement of the Ukrainian side: "freebie, pliz ...."
  11. kil 31
    kil 31 24 September 2015 16: 30 New
    +3
    US-Swedish company FLIR Systems Stripes became completely insolent. Ukrainian officials are begging money to cut it, and they will transfer assistance money to their company and then give them the product. So you can’t buy any house in London.
    1. twincam
      twincam 24 September 2015 17: 07 New
      0
      poor things)) ukrodeputaty are deprived of legally sawn funds)))
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 24 September 2015 16: 31 New
    +4
    Something I doubt that someone will steal even a screwdriver assembly. And the list of enterprises is interesting. It should be expected that they will be sold in the near future for next to nothing, and then destroyed.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 September 2015 17: 15 New
      +1
      In Ukraine, now every enterprise is self-explanatory, soon each plant and enterprise will have its own personal armed guard and will not pay any taxes - the complete anarchy of production and marketing.
  13. serzh savchenko
    serzh savchenko 24 September 2015 17: 30 New
    0
    Russia runs the risk of overplaying the Ukrainian issue. Systematic preparations are underway for the Ukrainian army to advance in order to restore its southeastern borders with Russia. Putin is waiting, but what can wait-and-see tactics lead to? Minsk-2, which Russia was drawn into, from my point of view, is a gross mistake of the Kremlin leadership. The time for the removal of the Ukrainian junta is hopelessly lost. Putin was against the uprising in the Donbass, but the Ukrainian army’s access to the borders of Russia would not even look like a slap in the face of Putin’s image.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 24 September 2015 19: 40 New
      +2
      I agree with you, what do you suggest? Enter troops and give Parasch a chance to declare aggression and call for a war of liberation? The question is why isn’t we pushing economically, even Ukraine itself is ahead of Russia by imposing sanctions, refuses to pay its debts, doesn’t buy gas, here I don’t understand the “game”
      1. serzh savchenko
        serzh savchenko 24 September 2015 20: 29 New
        0
        When the passenger is late for the train, he is waiting for another. Russia reminds me very much of this passenger in the Ukrainian crisis. I have to hurriedly build the Nord Stream2. This is about a year and a half. Only then can Russia fully apply sanctions against the Kiev junta, but the situation will sharply worsen by the end of this year. A group of 90 bayonets will launch a diffuse offensive and will reach the borders with Russia.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 24 September 2015 22: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: serzh savchenko
          When the passenger is late for the train, he is waiting for another. Russia


          You messed up .. Russia is not a passenger. She’s a train ... she’ll give a ride to someone. She’ll crush someone .. True according to the old Russian tradition .. he has a schedule .. that’s ... one god knows ..
        2. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 25 September 2015 00: 09 New
          0
          Quote: serzh savchenko
          will reach the borders with Russia.

          have mercy, and isn’t there now an ukroarmiya on the border with Russia. Tip- Throw out the urcaine globe.
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  14. guznorodov
    guznorodov 24 September 2015 17: 50 New
    0
    this though firewood, everything will be sold exactly to the left
  15. IAlex
    IAlex 24 September 2015 17: 54 New
    0
    Well, and how is Cyclone doing, who all threatened in 2015 to buy a factory for the production of thermal matrices from the French and increase production from several hundred to several thousand units? Something of the great victorious fanfares is not heard, is it really again a “zrada” from the Western partners that Russia has not known about for more than a thousand years?
  16. Maksus
    Maksus 24 September 2015 18: 25 New
    +1
    FLIR on a helicopter is certainly a cool thing, but to control the border or the Basmachis, drive it. For active observation in the presence of multi-stage air defense - does not roll, the range is not the same. They knock down the turntable before it finds the fighters. But to control the population in cities (their own!) - That’s it. Gunpowder is preparing to counteract the inside.
    1. corporal
      corporal 24 September 2015 23: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Maksus
      in the presence of multi-stage air defense - does not roll,

      Do DNR_LNR have multi-level air defense?
      Quote: Maksus
      to control the border or basmachi drive.

      Just to control the border and militias to drive. And for what else?
      Bad news.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 24 September 2015 19: 24 New
    +3
    Quote: jarome
    What kind of e ... habit to throw hats to fight ??? !!!

    And what a habit of whining and moaning before ... a fight?
    1. corporal
      corporal 26 September 2015 06: 09 New
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      And what a habit of whining and moaning before ... a fight?

      If in 95 they “whined and moaned before a fight”, then the storming of Grozny would have cost us less losses, or not?
      Or are you one of those who will first receive a lyule, and then make the right decisions. Analyst, damn it, couch (or staff rat), only from the bushes can you yell: "Go! Attack!"
  18. 31rus
    31rus 24 September 2015 19: 33 New
    +1
    In vain you laugh, they are slowly gathering to rebuild the army, armored cars, tanks, here are the thermal imagers, all this is just for the war and they begin to prepare thoroughly, but first the Kamaz is sheathed with iron or armored personnel carriers with a bed, but the samples are more serious, and this is someone’s life whose houses are ruined, so there’s little funny
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 September 2015 22: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: 31rus
      In vain you laugh, they are slowly gathering to rebuild the army, armored cars, tanks, here you have thermal imagers, all this is only for war

      ------------------
      They are getting ready, getting ready, only for another war - to squeeze out business in other regions, and control commodity and financial flows ... Donbass is no longer an interesting topic ...
  19. JonnyT
    JonnyT 24 September 2015 21: 42 New
    +1
    yet another bravura statement about the coming great breakthrough .......
    where pennies to take on all this ?????? and foreigners are not fools, they will not help for free .... all secrets can "float away" .....
    so what is it? PR ??
  20. Vasisualiy
    Vasisualiy 24 September 2015 21: 45 New
    +1
    I don’t understand something - the memorandum of cooperation is already a production? When it comes to production, even the spirit of the country "Ukraine" will not. And where will they get the money? This is not two rubles, this is not one million Jews killed, and theft and cuts should not be forgotten! Blue Dreams Svidomo eggs.
  21. iouris
    iouris 24 September 2015 21: 48 New
    +2
    The supply of thermal imagers to dill will negatively affect motivation. The main plus of dill is that there are a lot of them, they are duped, and their price is a penny.
  22. bmv04636
    bmv04636 24 September 2015 21: 59 New
    -1
    A new thermal imaging sight for hunting small arms was launched at the enterprise of the Schwab Holding.

    The product was created by the Holding company - JSC "Schwabe - Defense and Protection" based on a microbolometric matrix. It is designed to observe and conduct targeted shooting at any time of the year in any meteorological conditions (fog, smoke or complete darkness).
  23. Altona
    Altona 24 September 2015 22: 01 New
    +1

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    What kind of thermal imagers? What are you talking about? Army non-stop on rotation, admire, good people!
  24. bmv04636
    bmv04636 24 September 2015 22: 02 New
    0
    At Russia Arms Expo - 2015, the Shvabe holding company presented aviation optical surveillance systems based on a gyro-stabilized ball-type platform, created by PO UOMZ JSC. The devices are equipped with highly sensitive optical sensors of maximum resolution and are designed for round-the-clock search, detection and recognition of ground and surface objects during a wide range of scheduled works and emergency operations at any time of the day.
    Thanks to the unified design, these devices can be installed on almost any platform: on board helicopters, light aircraft, balloons and airships, on unmanned aerial vehicles and other ground and sea carriers.
    The smallest of the presented devices weighs no more than 5 kg, while it contains two information channels and is equipped with a set of a laser rangefinder, television and thermal imaging channels.
  25. Holocaust
    Holocaust 24 September 2015 22: 56 New
    -1
    Quote: bmv04636
    tomorrow start of production

    Another piece of homna ... There is something to be proud of)
    change the avatar to this wonderful picture))
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 September 2015 06: 50 New
    0
    Yes, it seems to me that the news is purely wiring. As you know, to promise does not mean to marry. So it is here. Maximum transshipment base.
  27. Doomph
    Doomph 25 September 2015 08: 19 New
    0
    And to put all this stuff, she, apparently, was going to Mi-2 helicopters.