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German edition: civil war is brewing in the west of Ukraine

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The foreign-funded Ukrainian government may collapse soon. There has been a split in the ruling coalition, which threatens civil war already in the west of the country, writes Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten. Article leads RIA News.




“In Ukraine, the discontent of the population is growing, due to political decisions of the country's leadership that are not supported by the people. In addition, the nationalist formations, who had previously arranged a shootout with law enforcement officers in Mukachevo, have long ceased to obey the authorities and arbitrarily staged a blockade of the Crimea peninsula "- notes the publication.

According to the author of the article, a possible civil war in the western regions of the country "may be a consequence of the escalation of the conflict between oligarchic groups and the lack of compromise between the leaders of parties in the ruling coalition."

The publication also draws attention to the fact that "the Radical Party" has already left the ruling coalition, the leader of which is Oleg Lyashko, and the leader of the Batkivshchyna party, Yulia Tymoshenko, opposed the government's initiative to decentralize power.
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  1. Andrea
    Andrea 24 September 2015 10: 09
    14

    According to the author of the article, a possible civil war in the western regions of the country "may be a consequence of the escalation of the conflict between oligarchic groups and the lack of compromise between the leaders of parties in the ruling coalition."
    Well ... that's unlikely.
    You will not be able to drive away any of them from the western trough with a stick. They will rob the country until the people themselves come to their senses, but take up the filthy broom.
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    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 24 September 2015 10: 10
      22
      This is a war of all against all. Preparing for the division of Ukraine. Federalization following the example of the Russian Federation could save the country.
      1. Yars
        Yars 24 September 2015 10: 16
        21
        and in the news all the same tales about Russian troops ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 September 2015 10: 40
          11
          a possible civil war in the western regions of the country "may be the result of the aggravation of the conflict between oligarchic groups and the lack of compromise between the leaders of parties belonging to the ruling coalition."
          And even in this situation, Putin will be to blame laughing
        2. mihasik
          mihasik 24 September 2015 11: 12
          +3
          Quote: YARS
          and in the news all the same tales about Russian troops ...

          Putin he is! He is everywhere!)
        3. Tatyana
          Tatyana 24 September 2015 12: 05
          +1
          oleg-gr
          This is a war of all against all. Preparing for the division of Ukraine. Federalization following the example of the Russian Federation could save the country.
          "New world order" such things at the expense of federalization EXCLUDES.
          Ukraine will be torn to pieces.
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      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 24 September 2015 10: 26
        20
        The publication also draws attention to the fact that “the ruling coalition has already left the Radical Party, whose leader is Oleg Lyashko, and the leader of the Batkivshchyna party, Yulia Tymoshenko, opposed government initiatives to decentralize power. ”

        What kind of ... decentralization ??? Poroshenko / Valtsman clearly said - NO DECENTRALIZATION WILL BE AND UKRAINE WILL REMAIN UNITARY! (Hello "Minsk 2" by the way ...) And generally deleted art. 92 of the Ukrainian Constitution.
        "Dupu of All Ukraine" -Lyashka, after the arrest of his faithful "sow" Mosiychuk, no one at all takes seriously. "Atomic Hulot" - Yulia Tymoshenko / Kapitelman like Murena will not get out seriously anywhere in Ukraine until everyone in Ukraine is killed and only then she will get out (Just because she will be left alone and there will be no alternative to her).
        In fact, Poroshenko / Valtsman, strange as it may sound (about the help of the "Black Lord, of course), took power in the Ruin into his own hands (albeit relatively), but you ... I am some personalities like the Parasyuk and Dzhamilyovs on the Crimean Isthmus, and they spoil the air of Tyagniboka and Yaroshi, BUT note, NOBODY SERIOUSLY PULLS AGAINST PETS ... in general, individuals who have not yet laid down under Peitsu finally).
        As correctly noted, in Ukraine everything fun is yet to come ... But at the moment, the Peitsa authorities in Ukraine are not a serious danger.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 September 2015 12: 07
          +2
          Quote: Now we are free
          As correctly noted, in Ukraine everything fun is yet to come


          And here Russia can add fuel By launching the energy bridge in Crimea by the beginning of the heating season, the rhetoric about the supply of gas and electricity to the Ruin will sharply aggravate ... in general ... I do not know how Russia, but Annushka has already spilled oil ...
        2. BDRM 667
          BDRM 667 24 September 2015 13: 16
          +1
          Quote: Now we are free
          "Atomic Hulot" - Yulia Tymoshenko / Kapitelman like Murena will not get out seriously anywhere in Ukraine until everyone in Ukraine is killed and only then she will get out (Just because she will be left alone and there will be no alternative to her)

          Probably it will be so, "yulka" will wait for the moment, and come out.

          But that "will be left alone" is doubtful ...

          As they say: "A holy place is never empty", but in the Ukrainian version it sounds: "Where there are TWO Ukrainians, there are THREE hetmans" ...
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      4. Sid.74
        Sid.74 24 September 2015 10: 27
        +4
        In Ukraine, the discontent of the population is growing, due to political decisions of the country's leadership that are not supported by the people.

        Well, Che, it is clear ... Poroshenko is an illegitimate president, panda get out, give Maidan Square, why not? request
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 24 September 2015 11: 13
          +4
          Quote: Sid.74
          give Independence Square, Che no?

          None ... No. there will be no big Maidan ..., there will be a great many of them, Maidan. Here are so many areas in the Ruin, so many Maidan. yes , and each will be called in its own way, but the ultimate goal is one-free, and from anyone, laughing Eugene, hi !
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    3. Vend
      Vend 24 September 2015 10: 11
      +4
      civil war brewing in western Ukraine
      What are you saying, a civil war is brewing. Yes, she’s already coming. The Germans are seeing.
      1. jjj
        jjj 24 September 2015 10: 14
        +6
        Is Poland getting ready to annex Galicia? This is not European and contrary to international law.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 24 September 2015 11: 18
          +7
          Quote: jjj
          Is Poland getting ready to annex Galicia?

          It is high time for Poland to think about its own annexation by the "Great Euro-Caliphate". Polish Foreign Minister Grzegosh Schitina (the one who is sure that Auschwitz was liberated by the Ukrainian army) said that Poland would easily accept any number of refugees, including illegal ones, and in general Poland is "great", and the greats are not trifling, but at " great "as you know, their quirks ... wink hi
      2. Yars
        Yars 24 September 2015 10: 20
        15
        The Germans are no longer up to Ukraine, they are already forgetting it, now the main topic is "refugees", the Germans are sending Merkel to Siberia and Putin to Berlin at demonstrations!
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 24 September 2015 12: 10
          +4
          Quote: YARS
          Merkel to Siberia and Putin to Berlin!


          well .. and why do we need your old chicken ... wassat

          better send her to amerika ..
          1. Dimka999
            Dimka999 24 September 2015 12: 28
            +2
            To Africa her)
      3. meriem1
        meriem1 24 September 2015 10: 35
        +3
        Goes, but not there! Let Kiev and Lvov at least cut each other to the last "revolutionary" If only people in Donbass were not touched. Let them tear at each other their smelly, deceitful throats.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 24 September 2015 10: 17
      +4
      We then thought that the brakes only in the Outskirts, and here the Germans arrived in time. What they pass off as Russian aggression is a civil war. Themselves and the victims counted up to 50 thousand on both sides.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 24 September 2015 10: 43
        +4
        What you are talking about is a war in the east of Ukraine. A war is brewing in the west, in Golitsia and Bukovina. Romanians will persistently provoke ethnic Romanians. In Transcarpathia, there is already an attempt to redistribute power between criminals. crawled out into Mukachevo, it did not work to hide the ends in the water. And the decision to create a mountain assault brigade is not Poroshenko’s whim, but an important necessity.
        1. zennon
          zennon 24 September 2015 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: Amurets
          Romanians will persistently provoke ethnic Romanians.

          I don’t know Romanians, but there are a lot of Hungarians there. Gonevedists are active. They will be able to instigate a rebellion as in Donbas. THEN COHLAM ZVIZDETS ...
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 24 September 2015 11: 09
      +2
      In such conditions, each region (read - oligarch) will receive (already has) its own "mini-army" and will regain its place under the lightning bolt in conditions of sharply reduced sources of income. It's simple.
    7. Shuttle
      Shuttle 24 September 2015 11: 34
      +7

      ... until the people themselves come to their senses, but take up the filthy broom.

      Explain with historical examples, please.
      This has never been and never will be. The people have likes, dislikes, dispositions, traditions, etc. But how to take it on your own and change your mind? Not. It won’t be like that. Need a leader. And this leader will always have connections with external forces.
      As an example, Lenin and Stalin. The first, regardless of his personal incentives, had support from abroad of one kind or another. The second, on the contrary, did not receive any foreign aid. Let's make a reservation right away that lend-lease is a business, not a help in Russian understanding. And very beneficial for our vehicles. "partners" business. Very.
    8. Boatsman_Palych
      Boatsman_Palych 24 September 2015 12: 17
      +2
      The people there already "took up the broomstick" - when it was organized and financed by pin.dosy. Even tire fans can see the results good
    9. Pafos
      Pafos 24 September 2015 13: 53
      0
      The people will not undertake. Because all Ukrainian people are Natsyks. There is nothing to rob. There is no work, but if there is something, the salary is enough for a stew. That rod creatures in the army on a voluntary basis that would rob the Donbass. In my city, more than 200 houses were destroyed by these cabs, they dragged everything even with women’s worn underwear, didn’t shun it, they didn’t drag it into the grave, and there haven’t been any graves for a year now, as the dogs have been laying around and planted a hand or a leg.
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 24 September 2015 17: 15
        +3
        Quote: Pafos
        The people will not undertake. Because all Ukrainian people are Natsyks.

        No, not all Ukrainian people are the same. Now Ukraine is very bad. She has a revolution. Most people sit at home and wait, not understanding how it will all end. Because consumers. Because there was no ideological education for a long time. Because what was brought up only one ideology - how to milk this world and not get a hoof in the face.
        This is a completely unprincipled pure consumerism. How to get a ball, how to do it for free. Look at what the citizens bought - the promises of freebies. Pensions like in Europe, freedom of movement like in Europe, freedom of expression like in Europe, ... everything like in Europe. But no one said that it took a hundred, two or three hundred years to plunder colonies like Spain, Portugal, France, Holland and England. That in Germany it has long been not Deutschland Hubert Alles, but Ordnung Hubert Alles. That being president in France is not economically profitable, but rather honorable. That the law in England is above even the queen, and not that there is some lord or an interim prime minister. And to have both "Brot" and "Butter" today, you need to "die Arbeit machen" not only tomorrow, but also today, and most importantly, both yesterday, and the day before yesterday, and the posture-the day before yesterday. Nobody said that. And no one from the people wanted to say anything, no one even wanted to think about this topic. Why? Because they don't think so on TV.
        People have been getting their brains from TV for a long time. And there, and unfortunately with us. Why are we unfortunately? Because I really want that instead of some bullshit they show not that the people are something good, useful. "You Can Do It", "I Want to Know Everything", "Garden and Vegetable Garden", "In the Animal World", "Film Travel Club". Well, "Visiting the Fairy Tale" is for the little ones, and not "Spongebob" and others like him.
        1. Krant
          Krant 24 September 2015 19: 25
          0
          Good girl, they put everything on the shelves. And our people would also sit at home and be silent, grumble in the kitchens, and this would all end there. We are the same herd, we need a "shepherd". And TV - who is in charge of TV channels, pop music, who are all our humorists by nation (except Zadornov) ??? That's it ... !!! We will stupidly accept the rise in prices, the rise in unemployment, the collapse of the ruble and listen to the stupid government on TV!
  2. atamankko
    atamankko 24 September 2015 10: 11
    +1
    Maybe the people will finally throw off this rotten and thieving power.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 24 September 2015 10: 17
      +1
      I doubt that the people will throw. If anyone throws off so it is Natsik-pravoseki. Apparently they are gaining real strength and Poroshenko is afraid of them. Therefore, in this case, armed conflict in the west of Ukraine is not ruled out.
    2. vladnn2015
      vladnn2015 24 September 2015 10: 25
      +5
      In Russia, the powers that be, in their overwhelming majority, behave no better than the authorities in Ukraine. Ours also came to steal as much as possible while there is an opportunity. This is confirmed by rare but significant court cases.
      1. Andrea
        Andrea 24 September 2015 10: 48
        +1
        Well, we won’t be naive? Anyone who aspires to power means primarily material dividends, then personal ambitions.
        Such-"it's a shame for the state"-an exception!
        And processes are over those who generally lost the coast.
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        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 24 September 2015 11: 26
          +2
          Andrea (1)
          Well, we will not be naive? Anyone who seeks power, has in mind, first of all, material dividends, then personal ambitions.
          Such an exception "for the state" is an exception!
          And processes are over those who have completely lost their shores.
          "Who in general has lost the coast" - these are those who are completely "insolent (!)" before those in power and stopped SHARING loot (carry "up" and began to "work" only for myself) with UPPER officials on VERTICAL authorities.
          1. Andrea
            Andrea 24 September 2015 14: 15
            0
            Tatyana
            "Who in general has lost their shores" are those who have completely "become insolent (!)" Before the powers that be and have stopped SHARING the loot (carry "up" and began to "work" only for themselves) with TOP-ranking officials on the VERTICAL of power.
            And such an interpretation is acceptable
      2. Krant
        Krant 24 September 2015 19: 30
        +1
        Learn, thieving governors, steal from Vasilyeva! I ran around with a bracelet on my foot, took videos, peeed pictures and poems, and set me free with a clear conscience! We don’t leave our own !!! So much to steal and where? !!! In the military department !!! And already a tear is pure! Grandiose !!!
    3. varov14
      varov14 24 September 2015 10: 47
      0
      The people will not take off, they firmly believe in a bright future and even know the main obstacle - this is you and me. We believe in a brighter future, we’ll have a squeeze on amerov and we will be happy, the head in power will cease to hurt about foreign policy and will turn to taking care of citizens. It is impossible to do everything at the same time, there will not be enough resources, but faith in a bright future has been instilled in us since childhood and, most importantly, it does not require any resources, we are no different - one people, different hypnotists.
  3. chikenous59
    chikenous59 24 September 2015 10: 11
    +6
    Tired of war. Everywhere is already fighting. Is the world so crazy?
    One senses more and more that the world is on the brink of a global conflict. Politicians have no nerves of iron either, and their hand is always on the trigger. Maybe at least the Lord will help cleanse the planet from the infection? A flood in North America, for example, or a long-awaited volcanic eruption. The head is already swelling from the messages that someone, somewhere, is fighting, and the brother is killing the brother.
  4. A-Sim
    A-Sim 24 September 2015 10: 12
    +2
    Hurry ... Winter is coming. Scatter in the corners.
    1. varov14
      varov14 24 September 2015 10: 52
      +1
      It’s good to be colder, with frost - the ardor will cool. Although the gas tossed to jump did not stop.
  5. hydrox
    hydrox 24 September 2015 10: 13
    +1
    Ordinary alarmism :: Europe expects a wave of refugees from Ukraine, and it will be worse for it than the Afro-Asian masses, well, and political suicide.
    For, if Europe had not supported the Yankees, then these would have been Russia's problems ...
    1. varov14
      varov14 24 September 2015 10: 55
      +1
      But what Ukrainians are dumber than Asians and Africans or will they really ask for work so that they don’t live on alms?
  6. kotvov
    kotvov 24 September 2015 10: 13
    +3
    yes there are full signs of makhnovshchina. what is dobbatalony? nothing more than gangs of fathers - black, green and blue also added.
  7. Pavel Vereshchagin
    Pavel Vereshchagin 24 September 2015 10: 13
    25
    He looked right into the water.
  8. alone
    alone 24 September 2015 10: 18
    +1
    A very dubious publication. It is not known by whom and how it is financed. In fact, this publication is the brainchild of the blogger Mikhail Mayer, who has open sympathies for V.V. Putin. So, talking about full objectivity does not make sense.

    PS If you believe every blogger, then there is no need to live at all and hope for the future.
  9. solovey
    solovey 24 September 2015 10: 18
    +4
    "Wedding in Malinovka" that's what it is now !!!!
  10. Intrudeude
    Intrudeude 24 September 2015 10: 18
    +2
    somewhere it was already ... about 100 years ago, Old Man Makhno against Old Man Angel, red against white, all against everyone ... anarchy in a word, another round of history
  11. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 24 September 2015 10: 19
    +1
    "a possible civil war in the western regions of the country" may result from the aggravation of the conflict between oligarchic groups and the absence of a compromise between the leaders of the parties that are part of the ruling coalition. "

    Yes, it always has been and will be when a few senile types are piled up against someone.
    1. United and the crowd stammered the mammoth.
    2. Since there were no preliminary agreements (or there were, but I want a little more), the biting of spiders in the bank begins.
    3. The squabble develops into a war game of everyone against everyone since the people have become impoverished, there is no money, darkness is hopeless, and the mammoth that somehow held it is no longer there (see paragraph 1)

    I used to think that only the Balts, so to speak, are not particularly hasty in their thoughts, now, however, the Germans have become the same.
  12. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 September 2015 10: 23
    +2
    This one, who occupies the position of the president in Ukraine, who is completely offended, clings his teeth to the side of an already overturned dill vessel.
    But, the campaign does not shine for him in the same place.
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  13. vell.65
    vell.65 24 September 2015 10: 27
    +1
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Federalization following the example of the Russian Federation could save the country.

    The external leadership of the country does not intend to do this, because in truly democratic elections it is unlikely that any of them will sit in the chair, i.e., powders and Yatsenyuk.
  14. Oman 47
    Oman 47 24 September 2015 10: 28
    +1
    Even Lyashka’s party of military bicaras left the coalition.

    Is the West coming to light?
  15. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 24 September 2015 10: 34
    +2
    Hmm ..., it looks like the "serial" - kopiya - tse - Europe, will last more than one year ... negative
  16. roskot
    roskot 24 September 2015 10: 42
    15
    Hold on to Western Dill.
  17. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 24 September 2015 10: 45
    +2
    Gayropeyskie, and you thought that everything will go according to your patterns in Ukraine? The United States will show you where the crayfish hibernate; howl howl yet. After all, the bastards again brew porridge, which again we have to disentangle ....
  18. iZVerG
    iZVerG 24 September 2015 10: 49
    +3
    Honest fight. Tough fight, Urine !!!
  19. press officer
    press officer 24 September 2015 10: 53
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    This is a war of all against all. Preparing for the division of Ukraine. Federalization following the example of the Russian Federation could save the country.


    And Ukrainians (residents of the outskirts of ordinary people) are all sitting and chewing snot ... what are they waiting for the weather near the sea, or as always?
    1. demo
      demo 24 September 2015 11: 28
      +1
      The population of Ukraine, regrettably, for the most part accepted - either frightened or remained on the sidelines - with the illegal taking of power by scumbags, both in Kiev and in the localities. Active resistance was provided only by Crimea, Donbass, and a hundred people in Odessa, Zaporozhye and Kharkov.
      For more than a year and a half, the population of Ukraine, despite all the bullying of scumbags, suffers them and, moreover, allows them to set them against the inhabitants of Donbass and Russia. No propaganda can justify the fact that many residents of Ukraine committed betrayal within themselves. Ready to kiss the boot of a US soldier to trample the Russians.
  20. evil partisan
    evil partisan 24 September 2015 10: 55
    0
    Weapons are not enough weapons. And violent little. Out of order ... winked
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    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 24 September 2015 13: 54
      +3
      Quote: wicked partisan
      Weapons are not enough weapons. And violent little. Out of order ... winked

      Weapons in bulk. There is no desire.
  21. afrikanez
    afrikanez 24 September 2015 10: 55
    +2
    And it is not surprising that it came to this. The power in Ukraine is completely absent, those who do not understand anything rule it. Well, no matter what, not all the cat needs cottage cheese, and the muzzle is on the threshold.
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 24 September 2015 10: 56
    +3
    Ukraine has legalized a bandit, let it slurp it now ...
  23. slizhov
    slizhov 24 September 2015 10: 58
    +1
    CE - Evropa!
    Civil war, as I understand it, the people with Bandera? :)
  24. Russia
    Russia 24 September 2015 11: 10
    +1
    24 of the year they betrayed their history, thrilled the country three times, raised generations of fascists, promised them a freebie in fat and threw it. But they have already tried the blood and for the sake of the promised freebies are ready to pour it.
    They say correctly: "Throw a stone into your story, it will shoot a gun at you."
  25. mihasik
    mihasik 24 September 2015 11: 29
    +6
    Not quite in the subject, but smiled)
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  27. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 24 September 2015 12: 08
    +2
    anarchy (power without real power) leads between strife among the pack
  28. pvv113
    pvv113 24 September 2015 12: 16
    +4
    long ceased to obey the authorities and arbitrarily imposed a blockade of the Crimean peninsula

    The most interesting thing is that the blockade of Crimea, organized by "activists" and "patriots", is absolutely not beneficial for Ukraine itself.
  29. kizhe
    kizhe 24 September 2015 12: 42
    +2
    But the Beggar has everything in hand. The more confusion, the easier it is to catch a fish in the muddy water.
  30. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 24 September 2015 14: 46
    +1
    Dear Colleagues, I read the information, rummaged through the internet, and an seditious thought arose.
    The publication "Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten" is quite serious, well, not as "Kommersant" in Russia, but as an economic publication in Germany, quite popular. Could it be that, having understood that there is no alternative to the existence of Europe without Russia, one begins to be ready for a change in public opinion, for a change in mutual relations? Russia, after all, still does not abandon constructive mutually beneficial relations with all interested parties. It is clear that this is not caused by altruistic motives, but nevertheless, We are a large part of Europe, and in normal relations, without the imperial influence of Washington, too, I think we are interested?

    Here's something such a subjective thought has arisen. No.
  31. Sargaras
    Sargaras 24 September 2015 15: 24
    +1
    and in the news all the same tales about Russian troops ..


    So it will not be a civil war, but a war against "Russian troops"
  32. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 24 September 2015 17: 07
    +1
    And we will make friends with Germany, if only the GDP would not interfere, then we’ll see ......
  33. TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 24 September 2015 18: 22
    0
    until a strong and strong-willed commander like Stalin or Putin comes to them, there will be no peace on Ukrainian soil