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China uses the Russian experience in the modernization of the army

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The People’s Liberation Army of China is conducting massive reductions of officers, following the example of Russian servicemen who decided to take this step a few years ago, the newspaper notes "Sight" with reference to western military experts.




Recently, China has reduced the size of the armed forces by 13% (almost 300 thousand people), while 60% of the dismissed military personnel were officers. At the same time, the number of professional sergeants is growing, notes the American edition of Strategy Page.

The Chinese military leadership wants to bring to the service in these positions the most capable recruits, offering them a variety of bonuses, in particular, benefits for higher education. In addition, a campaign is underway to attract college graduates to the service of sergeants.

China generally follows the Russian example. In the 90-ies, the numerical strength decreased by 80% compared with the period of the USSR, but a large number of officers remained. Since 2008, Russians have begun to carry out a large-scale purge of a bloated officer corps. 20% generals, 65% colonels, 75% majors and 55% captains got under the reduction. At the same time, the number of lieutenants increased by 20%. The funds released after the cuts went towards the creation of a professional sergeant corps and a set of contract soldiers.

Chinese and Russian troops often conduct joint exercises, so Beijing had many opportunities to assess the impact of the reduction in the number of officers on the fighting qualities of the armed forces.

“The difference is in how Russia and China get rid of unnecessary officers. In China, retired officers are usually offered jobs in the civil service. In the end, these officers gained some skills, extensive experience and, as you know, they are notable for their loyalty to the authorities. In Russia, serious economic problems led to large cuts in state jobs in general, ”the newspaper notes.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 24 September 2015 05: 27 New
    +5
    China uses the Russian experience in the modernization of the army


    Well, the Chinese can not live without copying anything and everything.
    Correctly say it’s cheaper to learn from someone else’s experience than from our own ... what we get with our sweat and blood, the Chinese save on this, preferring to use other people's weapons in relation to their mentality.
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 24 September 2015 05: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: The same Lech

      Well, the Chinese can not live without copying anything and everything.

      Well, Russia can’t take the best from the Chinese.
      “The difference is in how Russia and China get rid of unnecessary officers. In China, retired officers are usually offered jobs in the civil service. In the end, these officers gained some skills, extensive experience and, as you know, they are notable for their loyalty to the authorities. In Russia, serious economic problems led to large cuts in state jobs in general, ”the newspaper notes.
    2. Hagakure
      Hagakure 24 September 2015 05: 35 New
      +3
      A copy is always worse than the original ...
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 24 September 2015 05: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: Hagakure
        A copy is always worse than the original ...

        If you copy various objects then yes, if experience then no!
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 10: 58 New
          +1
          This is because someone else’s experience cannot be copied, it can only be realized. About objects: if the copyist has better workmanship, then the copy will be better than the original.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 24 September 2015 12: 26 New
            +1
            Arabs in the Middle Ages copied and stole the works of ancient Greek and Roman mathematicians, stole-copied from the Hindus only 10 icons, numbers ..., all this combined, developed, the output was science algebra (Al Hebr in theirs), which humanity successfully uses today .... And all of today's cool digital technologies are based on Arabic mathematics, on Hindu numerals (from 0 to 9) ...... By the way, Europeans at that time burned the works of the ancient Greeks and Romans ...
      2. theadenter
        theadenter 24 September 2015 05: 43 New
        +5
        But thanks to copying, experience and understanding come faster.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 September 2015 08: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: theadenter
          But thanks to copying, experience and understanding come faster.

          If China copies our experience, then according to their estimates it is effective, which means why they should not use our best practices so as not to reinvent the wheel ... hi
          1. theadenter
            theadenter 24 September 2015 08: 33 New
            +1
            Using someone else's example is always easier to learn. You get rid of many pitfalls during development.
            On the other hand, copying someone else’s without their permission is simply ugly.
            1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
              Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 01 New
              +1
              And not copying is stupid and inefficient.
            2. Karlovar
              Karlovar 24 September 2015 12: 37 New
              +1
              Korolev enjoyed using documentation on rocket technology exported from defeated Germany ... And, along the way, he did not suffer remorse ... Americans did exactly the same .... Moreover, Americans still prefer to steal not just technical documentation, and brains, creating conditions in other countries for brain drain in the form of wars, revolutions, poverty, chaos ....
        2. Karlovar
          Karlovar 24 September 2015 12: 29 New
          +2
          From September 1, any first grader begins to copy knowledge and experience accumulated by mankind! Which is very pragmatic and effective ...
      3. atarix
        atarix 24 September 2015 07: 21 New
        +1
        a thoughtless copy is worse.
        creatively processed better - allows you to absorb all the best and get rid of the shortcomings of the original.
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 05 New
          +1
          A thoughtless copy is a watch from a single piece of gold in a book about Hotabych. I support you!
      4. Karlovar
        Karlovar 24 September 2015 12: 13 New
        +1
        The technology of manufacturing katana (multilayer steel) the Japanese copied, stole from the Chinese, developed and improved this technology, as a result surpassed the Chinese! Katana is the best sword of all time .... By the way, the Arabs (called Damascus steel) also stolen the technology of multilayer steel from the Chinese, the Europeans stole from the Arabs (called damask) ...
    3. Finches
      Finches 24 September 2015 05: 50 New
      +2
      In order for China to succeed, they need Serdyukov to write himself out with all of his woman's battalion ...! laughing
    4. 222222
      222222 24 September 2015 10: 10 New
      +2
      The same LEKHA (2) SU
      ... "" The Chinese cannot live without copying everything and everything. ""
      "

      .. ALL WE ARE COPIES .. copies of our parents. Their morals. Conduct. Conspiracy ...
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 07 New
        0
        But some are creatively rethought and enhanced.
  2. Alekseev-Orsk
    Alekseev-Orsk 24 September 2015 05: 32 New
    0
    Well, as for the army - Russia is now a role model for everyone))) Russia, you are the best !!!
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 09 New
      0
      Nichosy you bent. laughing
  3. sl22277
    sl22277 24 September 2015 05: 44 New
    +2
    "China uses Russian experience in modernizing the army." But why invent something when it has already been invented and verified? It remains only to develop measures to support and protect the liberated people.
  4. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 24 September 2015 06: 12 New
    +7
    How did we reduce officers, I personally experienced it! Just a general list at your disposal and for retirement! Poor warrant officers, who were not hiding in warehouses, but were chiefs of hardware, company technicians, and specialists in the repair of weapons and military equipment, were abolished altogether! Everything was done just thoughtlessly! And it was possible and as it should be reduced through careful selection. So cheers to say that they cut the cloud of officers too early! And by professionalism it is not yet known who will be higher in level, the old or new guard.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 24 September 2015 07: 42 New
      0
      Since 2008, the Russians began to carry out large-scale cleaning of the swollen officer corps. 20% of generals, 65% of colonels, 75% of majors and 55% of captains fell under reduction.
      That's it, that cleaning, moreover, is worse than 1937 of the year. The Chinese found someone to take an example from (Serdyukov and Vasilyeva to help them). The officer corps, this is the backbone of the army, it would be better to learn from the Japanese, from whom an excess percentage of officers and non-commissioned officers have been specially created, which allows the army to quickly build up upon mobilization, having a ready and trained command staff, on the basis of "just add water".
  5. valokordin
    valokordin 24 September 2015 06: 22 New
    +3
    “The difference is in how Russia and China get rid of unnecessary officers. In China, retired officers are usually offered jobs in the civil service. In the end, these officers gained some skills, extensive experience and, as you know, they are notable for their loyalty to the authorities. In Russia, serious economic problems led to large cuts in state jobs in general, ”the newspaper notes.
    Quote: astronom1973n
    How did we reduce officers, I personally experienced it! Just a general list at your disposal and for retirement! Poor warrant officers, who were not hiding in warehouses, but were chiefs of hardware, company technicians, and specialists in the repair of weapons and military equipment, were abolished altogether! Everything was done just thoughtlessly! And it was possible and as it should be reduced through careful selection. So cheers to say that they cut the cloud of officers too early! And by professionalism it is not yet known who will be higher in level, the old or new guard.

    Dear Chinese comrades, do not repeat the failed experience of Russia and its leadership, take care of the cadres who took the oath and faithfully served the fatherland, and they were kicked out like trash, as the Trotskyist Nikita once reduced his army. But then there was the USSR and people were poorly taken care of, and at the present time the market, you know. Money is needed not for the people, but for the rich and their patrons for the purchase of yachts, airplanes, courtyards, servants.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 26 New
      +1
      Large organization. It is very difficult to qualitatively make a personnel reorganization. People suffered unfairly, but we need to somehow live with it somehow. Do not torment the soul. I think that those who planned the reforms (and I think it was not Serdyukov at all) were not going to offend anyone or insult anyone with doubts about their incompetence.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 September 2015 07: 44 New
    +1
    And why not copy the positive experience. They do not copy everything in a row and thoughtlessly. And the shoulder straps of the cadets in the photo, as we had in the combined arms schools.
  7. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 24 September 2015 08: 22 New
    +1
    Serdyukov would help them.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 11: 28 New
      0
      And his women, so that at once then they would answer for everything.
  8. roskot
    roskot 24 September 2015 08: 35 New
    0
    The officers were, there will be the backbone of the army. And the country began to fall from the collapse of the army. The reduction of the officer corps, the closure of schools, the committees of soldiers' mothers. All this was aimed at the collapse of the army. And it was made by an overseas order.
  9. MuadDib
    MuadDib 24 September 2015 09: 54 New
    0
    When I saw the photo for the article, I remembered that we had been upgraded for 365 days :)