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Mi-38 will be equipped with a domestic TV7-117В engine with 1000-hour overhaul interval

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The Mi-38 helicopters will be equipped with engines exclusively made in Russia. This is with reference to a source in the helicopter industry reports the news agency Interfax-AVN. According to the source of the news agency, we are talking about the TV7-117В engines developed by the company. JSC "Klimov".


The report notes that these engines have an increased resource, and it is them, and not PW127TS (engines of the company "Pratt & Whitney"), chooses a domestic manufacturer of rotary-wing machines.

From the message Interfax-AVN:
In the next two weeks, TV7-117V should receive an addition to the certificate for an increased service life, which will be at least 1000 flight hours (overhaul interval). All necessary documents and materials have already been sent to Aviation Register of the Interstate Aviation Committee.


Specialists of the Kazan Helicopter Plant will build the first two Mi-38 helicopters with the Russian TV7-117V engines in the first half of the year 2016. Total JSC "Klimov" in the period from 2016 to 2019. will supply for such helicopters 50 engines of its development. The contract amount is more than 3,9 billion rubles.

Mi-38 - Russian medium multipurpose helicopter, which should eventually replace the Mi-8. The first flight of the Mi-38 took place on December 22 2003 of the year. By 2015, 4 prototypes of this helicopter were built with the prospect of using foreign engines PW127TS. However, in connection with the events in Georgia in 2008, in North America they announced that engines would not be supplied to Russia, which allowed the Russian Federation to develop its own production.

For your information: The TV7-117B engine belongs to the HP power class 2500-3000. Cruise Specific Fuel Consumption - 220-230 g / hp. hour. Engine weight, depending on version - 360-380 kg.

Mi-38 will be equipped with a domestic TV7-117В engine with 1000-hour overhaul interval


Development goes in two directions:

with the output of the power shaft forward - the TV7-117В (ВМ) engine for the Mi-38 helicopter and its modifications;
with the output of the power take-off shaft back - the TV7-117ВК engine for upgrading the Mi-28, Ka-50 / Ka-52 helicopters.
Photos used:
http://www.klimov.ru/
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  1. Basarev
    Basarev 23 September 2015 17: 09 New
    +1
    And why is it placed in the same niche with Chinook? After all, Chinook raises more than twice as much!
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 23 September 2015 17: 44 New
      0
      In a separate niche, they try not to allocate for each helicopter in the market system.
    2. War and Peace
      War and Peace 23 September 2015 18: 24 New
      +11
      In total, Klimov OJSC from 2016 to 2019. will supply 50 engines of its own design for such helicopters. The amount of the contract is more than 3,9 billion rubles.

      in four years, 50 engines? what are they collecting in the garage?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 23 September 2015 18: 40 New
        +7
        Quote: war and peace
        in four years, 50 engines? what are they collecting in the garage?

        The number of engines is determined by the number of helicopters. If Kazan announced 25 Mi-38s from 2016 to 2019 - it means there will be 50 TV7-117V.
        In addition, this delivery is only on order for the Mi-38.
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 23 September 2015 20: 37 New
          -7
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: war and peace
          in four years, 50 engines? what are they collecting in the garage?

          The number of engines is determined by the number of helicopters. If Kazan announced 25 Mi-38s from 2016 to 2019 - it means there will be 50 TV7-117V.
          In addition, this delivery is only on order for the Mi-38.


          I think that the number of TV117 engines is determined not by the number of mi38, but by PRODUCTION CAPACITIES, because these engines can be put in other helicopters and aircraft, so it’s very strange that in such a time they create a plant that will produce 10-12 of these engines per year, which are not at the top of technology, either in mass or in cost, in short, some HUSBAND ...
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 24 September 2015 12: 53 New
            0
            Quote: war and peace
            I think that the number of TV117 engines is determined not by the number of mi38, but by PRODUCTION CAPACITIES, because these engines can also be used for other helicopters and airplanes

            TV7-117V is made specifically for the Mi-38.
            For other helicopters, there is another model - TV7-117VK.
            Quote: war and peace
            and so it’s very strange that in such a time they create a plant that will produce 10-12 of these engines per year, which are not at the top of the technology either in terms of mass or cost, in short, KUSHARSHCHIN is some kind of ...

            The plant was created for the production of another engine - our most popular TV3-117, aka VK-2500. Previously, it was produced in the country of 404, where it was transferred from Klimov during the USSR.
      2. Consul-t
        Consul-t 24 September 2015 00: 49 New
        +1
        in four years, 50 engines? what are they collecting in the garage?

        No, modern workshops were built there, only there is our common Russian misfortune ... then they manage the managers and everybody comes there by blat.
        Agents of hidden influence ...
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 23 September 2015 20: 02 New
      -6
      The 38th does not want to fly on today's engines, because it was built under the canadian ones, which are almost 1.5 times more powerful and 2 times more economical, though they love very clean fuel, which in today's conditions in Russia is a bummer.
      1. War and Peace
        War and Peace 23 September 2015 20: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: juborg
        The 38th does not want to fly on today's engines, because it was built under the canadian ones, which are almost 1.5 times more powerful and 2 times more economical, though they love very clean fuel, which in today's conditions in Russia is a bummer.


        and what are these Canadian engines that are 1.5 times more powerful?
    4. twincam
      twincam 23 September 2015 22: 17 New
      +2
      and where did you find the word "chinook" in this article?
  2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
    Uncle VasyaSayapin 23 September 2015 17: 09 New
    +13
    Finally! How much Ukrainians can feed!
    1. Krasmash
      Krasmash 23 September 2015 17: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Finally! How much Ukrainians can feed!

      good That's right. I’ll punish any Russophobian country. By the way, this is great news. I was very happy. Every day such messages should come.

      The dairy industry in Estonia was in a deep crisis due to sanctions from the Russian Federation. Estonian farmers expect concrete action from the government, Estonian National Television and Radio Broadcasting ERR reports.

      According to the local farmer, his company two years ago made a profit of about € 30 thousand, while last year there was no profit at all, and there was a loss of € 700 thousand.

      According to RIA Novosti, experts estimate the damage of Estonian agricultural producers from Russian import sanctions at € 150 million. Approximately € 50 million was estimated annual export to Russia of only dairy products.
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 23 September 2015 17: 46 New
        +2
        Let them go to Russia, explore the Far East. It will crush with frost, in the word Tallinn 4 letters "l" will be pronounced. laughing
      2. yushch
        yushch 23 September 2015 18: 03 New
        +7
        You are absolutely right, moreover, I believe that the supply of imported engine variants should generally be prohibited from being considered. We do our excellent and the more we do, the better they become.
      3. novobranets
        novobranets 24 September 2015 06: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Krasmash
        According to the local farmer, his company two years ago made a profit of about € 30 thousand, while last year there was no profit at all, and there was a loss of € 700 thousand.

        It reminded the old joke.
        Winter, frost. An Estonian comes out of the forest to the railway. He sees another Estonian riding a trolley on it. The first :
        - Friend, is it far to Ta-a-allin?
        - No, not far.
        - Give me a ride.
        - Sit down.
        Riding an hour, two, three. The first solves again:
        “Friend, is it far from Ta-allin?”
        - Yeah. Now far far away.
    2. SAG
      SAG 23 September 2015 22: 12 New
      0
      Could, put 100 pluses of such news ...
  3. sinukvl
    sinukvl 23 September 2015 17: 11 New
    +5
    As the saying goes: "With an initiative!"
  4. igor1981
    igor1981 23 September 2015 17: 13 New
    +7
    Everything is correct. And engines are better than jobs and taxes to the budget.
    1. ssn18
      ssn18 23 September 2015 18: 44 New
      0
      "And the engines are better .."

      I would like to clarify the better?
      TV2-117, TV3-117 had an overhaul life of 1500 l / h.
      1. figvam3
        figvam3 23 September 2015 19: 35 New
        +2
        Technical characteristics of the TV2-117 engine
        Takeoff Power: 1500 L p. [1]
        Specific fuel consumption: [2] 0,275 kg / hp · h
        Power at cruising mode: 1000 l. p. [1]
        Specific fuel consumption: [3] 0,310 kg / hp · h
        Length: 2843 mm
        Width: 550 mm
        Height: 748 mm
        Dry weight: 334 kg
        Assigned Resource: 12 hours
  5. Barakuda
    Barakuda 23 September 2015 17: 14 New
    +6
    Sanctions You are our Native good even though they “thought” for a long time, and in three years 50 cars sad
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 23 September 2015 17: 47 New
      +5
      25. Excluding repair. These are the drops. I hope that the volumes will rise sharply. The whole madhouse from cooperation with Ukraine could not be foreseen only by the full ... I regret that these idiots in Russia are unlimited.
    2. figvam3
      figvam3 23 September 2015 19: 38 New
      0
      kha kha, how much do you say there were "bastions" since 2010 produced ??? WITHOUT SANCTIONS ???
      YES AND NARRATOR HOW MUCH YOU HELPED THESE HELICOPTERS FOR THE LAST ... 24 YEARS ???
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 23 September 2015 23: 18 New
        +1
        addict stoli?
  6. 79807420129
    79807420129 23 September 2015 17: 39 New
    +11
    Sanctions, sanctions, but you had to think about import substitution earlier, especially about high-tech, or as usual we didn’t think it would happen? The war against the genatsvale, please, there is no engine for Kamov, you’ve developed your own, but how much time does it take from development to launch in a series, Yes, even bureaucrats huckster all sorts of think about their filthy pocket, and not about the country and people. Now the ruin refused to transfer the cargo customs declaration for the Russian Navy, well ... the hull walls were erected, the equipment remained to be started up and launched. And this is not a very quick process. that you always have to have your own production, and not support someone else’s manufacturer.
    1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 23 September 2015 17: 47 New
      +7
      Import substitution without sanctions and the depreciation of the ruble was not launched.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 24 September 2015 00: 02 New
        +1
        It is necessary to understand from the beginning why such taxation in industry is more profitable to buy abroad than to produce one. Why do I need to drag loans from abroad and keep money in offshore, and not invest in our own production?
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 24 September 2015 00: 23 New
          0
          Yes, it's not so much about taxes. Taxes are not much higher than in the states and lower than in Europe. First troublesome. Secondly, you need to invest money. And then beat them off. If you put money in a bank, in 8 years it will become 2 times more. And in production, will money double so quickly? Uncles in Blagoveshchensk 12 years ago wanted to bring several hundred purebred heifers from Canada, a Boeing. So they simply were not allowed for sanitary and epidemiological restrictions. Or another example: to build a plant for the production of combines in the Amur Region. Where to sell? to Siberia and Central Russia? To China? Everywhere there. That's a bummer. Even three ice cream producers for little Blagoveshchensk are too much. A small juice bottling workshop in the area of ​​the match factory supplies all of Siberia and the Far East. And the concentrate is purchased abroad. Not from the pears and local ranetki to cook it. And from fern juice can not be deceived. You’ll sell horseradish later. Here are the limitations. And offshore people are now mostly trying to preserve property. After all, we have the formula: power-money-power-money. sad hi
  7. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 23 September 2015 18: 02 New
    0
    It would be better to be more pragmatic and realistic. This is only the factory hopes to certify its products so far this year. But the engines themselves and all the devices with them put into operation - a little later (they themselves mention this).
  8. engineer74
    engineer74 23 September 2015 19: 13 New
    +1
    Again, we will do the UEC, like VK-2500 ??? belay
    Maybe they’ll lose their salaries! fellow
  9. figvam3
    figvam3 23 September 2015 19: 44 New
    +2
    By the United Engine Company (UEC) Vladislav Masalov, by 2015, Russian manufacturers will completely supplant the Ukrainian Motor Sich plant, having set up production of 600 engines a year in St. Petersburg - this is exactly what is needed to fully cover the needs of Russian Helicopters.
    TV3-117 - a family of aircraft turboshaft engines developed in the years 1965-1972 in the OKB named after V. Ya. Klimov under the leadership of S. P. Izotov and S. V. Lyunevich
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 23 September 2015 20: 09 New
      +1
      TV3-117 released "Motor Sich", the land rest in peace. UEC produces VK-2500, also not new, but still! Moreover, in St. Petersburg, mainly, final assembly, and the production of DSE, is spread throughout Russia with a thin layer. TV7-117, EMNIP, a relatively new engine, the next generation. hi
  10. KRIG55
    KRIG55 23 September 2015 19: 44 New
    +10
    Well now Motorsich can safely breathe and reorient to the European and American markets. They are already tired of waiting.
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 23 September 2015 20: 13 New
    0
    The main thing is to start mass production, the Resource will be corrected in the following batches. For the military, it’s not so important; their raid is not so big. And for the Mi-38 archi it’s important, the car is commercial.
  12. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 September 2015 20: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: KRIG55
    reorient to the European and American markets. They are already tired of waiting.

    Yeah, they say 127pcs of TV3-117VMA replace one RD-180. yes
  13. Koshak
    Koshak 23 September 2015 20: 47 New
    0
    Does anyone know what is being done for Ansat? After all, Canadian engines are also putting it on him.
  14. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 23 September 2015 21: 36 New
    -2
    Quote: ssn18
    "And the engines are better .."

    I would like to clarify the better?
    TV2-117, TV3-117 had an overhaul life of 1500 l / h.


    Well, for the time being, engines cannot be made comparable in resource with Ukrainian engines. No technology or experience. In addition to the resource, the question is not only with and at the level of 100-1000 hours it is not so much in the resource itself just in the test program that you need to pass before you are issued a certificate for such a resource. Therefore, it is precisely these same engines that initially had a resource of 100 in order to quickly obtain a certificate.

    And 50 engines in a year of climbs had to do back in 2013. The original plan was generally in 2011-2012, but today, alas, plans one life is different.
    God forbid if they make 2500 pcs in 50 with VK-2015 (15 have already done).
    But the Ukrainians have now imposed sanctions against the helicopters of Russia ”and if they cover the export of Motorsich, then kirdyk of our entire helicopter industry.

    They supply us ~ 600 pcs. per year for the production of ~ 200 helicopters. So if we have only our climate change, we will do instead of 200-250 helicopters, God forbid 20 + something already done. And next year, God grant 50-60
  15. slaw14
    slaw14 23 September 2015 21: 50 New
    +1
    "Specialists of the Kazan Helicopter Plant will build the first two Mi-38 helicopters with Russian TV7-117V engines in the first half of 2016."
    For some reason I did not understand the word “build”, here is an excerpt from the characteristics from MAKS-2015, judging by it they already stand:
    Mi-38 - medium multi-purpose helicopter
    Cruising speed: 285 km / h
    Range with a cargo of 3 kg: 000 km
    Range with a cargo of 5 kg: 000 km
    Flight range with additional fuel tanks and cargo weighing 2 kg: 700 km
    Ceiling: 5 900 m
    Static ceiling hanging outside the zone of influence of the Earth: 3 750 m
    Max. take-off weight: 15 kg
    Maximum take-off weight with external load: 16 kg
    Gas turbine engines: 2xTV7-117V (Klimov OJSC)
    Helicopter crew: 1-3
    Passengers: up to 30
    on Ansat it seems they will put the same Klimov VK-800
  16. arrows
    arrows 23 September 2015 21: 52 New
    +2
    Quote: juborg
    The 38th does not want to fly on today's engines, because it was built under the canadian ones, which are almost 1.5 times more powerful and 2 times more economical, though they love very clean fuel, which in today's conditions in Russia is a bummer.

    Clean mouth is also in short supply
  17. Above_name
    Above_name 24 September 2015 02: 10 New
    +1
    ... However, in connection with the events in Georgia in 2008 in North America, it was announced that engines would not be supplied to Russia, which allowed the Russian Federation to develop its own production.

    Shaw allowed ??
  18. Koronik
    Koronik 24 September 2015 05: 31 New
    0
    “In total, Klimov, from 2016 to 2019, will supply 50 engines of its own design for such helicopters. The amount of the contract is more than 3,9 billion rubles.”
    No, I think this is a typo, the author of the article wanted to say about 500 engines. And so the cost of one engine is 70-75 ml. Rubles, then the helicopter will be gold.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 September 2015 06: 48 New
    0
    Good news.
    It is clear that few engines so far.
    But these are pilot episodes on which the modes, service nuances and small schools that will not catch the tests will be worked out. Over time, as technology is debugged, more specialists are involved, production is developed, the number of manufactured products will increase. Why hasn’t been done before? So you estimate the number of other projects completed over the years in the country, the scale of the withdrawal of money abroad. So it turns out that we work, exporting everything on the meager, with a chronic shortage of money.