Super-maneuverable rocket tested in China

On the characteristics of the new air-to-air missile PL-10, recently tested in China, one of its developers told Defense Talk online edition.

“The ammunition, which is now being tested along with the prototype of the fifth-generation Chinese fighter J-20, is intended for close air combat. The length of the rocket is three meters, the mass of the order of 90 kilograms, the range 20 kilometers ", - cites the source Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

According to the interlocutor, “PL-10 is equipped with a multi-element infrared homing system with dazzle protection and is capable of hitting targets that are away from the aiming line. Data on missile guidance can be displayed in the helmet pilot indicator. "

According to the resource, “large steering wheels and the use of an engine with a controlled thrust vector indicate that the rocket will have very high maneuverability.”

It is reported that during the tests about 30 launches were made. The development of the rocket is conducted by the Luoyang Electron-optical Research Institute.

Comments

[Maksus]

The American carrier fleet is slowly moving away from the shores of Taiwan and Okinawa, you never know)))

[isker]

According to the resource, “large steering wheels and the use of an engine with a controlled thrust vector indicate that the rocket will have very high maneuverability.”

What is it like? Why then do the wide-eyed engines put strangers on their papilos? or - scale - lack of mind?

[SAG]

... vo-vo, sounds like a joke

range of 20 kilometers

I’m afraid that when the distance is reduced to at least 100 km, with any of the existing 5th generation aircraft, the Chinese will have nothing to launch this missile with

[dauria]

that when the distance is reduced to just a minimum of 100 km,

So, melee will be gone? To the landfill of the gun, R-73, you do not need maneuverability and all kinds of high-voltage weapons with other tricks? Passed already in the 60s ... Super-irons with a wing load of 600 kg per square meter

It is clearly written "intended for close air combat." Choosing the best from someone else's, copying and making themselves, rather than buying from your uncle? Well done, that's what all normal people have always done. And we including when we were normal.

[Karlovar]

Simply, the people are mainly envious, because the Chinese do not stand still, but go forward by any means ... The Chinese have mercy on the Gorbachevs, Yeltsins, Chubais, Gaidar, Yakovlev, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, from cutting the fleet, strategic aviation, from deindustrialization, from shock therapy, from the destruction of education and healthcare and many, many more misfortunes !!! How BE was lucky for them ...... If the USSR in 25 years turned into a bunch of mendicant republics + the Russian Federation with a more or less economy, then China, being at the start of a poor, backward country, has grown its economy in 35 years according to various expert estimates of 30 up to 40 times, the economy continues to grow at a pace that many countries don’t even dream of !!! Like, they were lucky ..... But maybe it's not about luck, but in something else ??? Yes, and engaged in industrial espionage, engaged, will be engaged in all countries ... The American missile and nuclear programs implemented captive Germans !!!! The Americans in this case did not even steal the technical documentation, but the biological carriers of ideas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

What are you talking about. China 300 years ago was a superpower. For the last century and a half, they have had such a restructuring that my mother does not grieve. And everyone has always been engaged in industrial espionage. Otherwise, gunpowder, paper money, silk and porcelain have been made only in China until now. The world would look cool, wouldn't it? "then China, being at the start of a poor, backward country." When that start was the Germans and the British had not yet come to Europe, In Europe there were no roads, no Rome, to which they all lead.

[Karlovar]

Do not confuse! China, I will not argue, was a superpower, the first economy of the world for millennia ... until ... the Opium Wars, after which there were uprisings, revolutions, foreign interventions, civil wars in China for a century, resulting in chaos and devastation ... In Russia, the period of revolutions and civil war took how much? -Year 6-7 .... And what were the consequences ???

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: SAG

... vo-vo, sounds like a joke

range of 20 kilometers

I’m afraid that when the distance is reduced to at least 100 km, with any of the existing 5th generation aircraft, the Chinese will have nothing to launch this missile with

And you name the fighting planes of America of the 5th generation at the present time. There is nothing besides F-22. And these unfinished airplanes, pilots have limited flight speed, since 1990 in the USA 195 airplanes have been manufactured. You ask yourself - why is it so negligible?
F-22 is so expensive and capricious that America abandoned its use in Iraq and Afghanistan. And recently she stopped buying F-22 altogether.
One of the developers of the F-22, Darrol Olsen, said that the Lockheed Martin corporation supplied the American army with F-22 Raptor fighters, the designs of which had flaws previously known to the developers. For example, stealth coating defects that were not fixed before the military began to deliver aircraft. Darrol Olsen said that poor-quality coatings can lead to dangerous incidents, as happened in 2008, when part of the cover came off the plane and hit the engine. This incident resulted in more than a million damage to the military. This limits flight speed.
F-22 requires more than 30 hours of maintenance after each hour of flight. The cost of an hour of flight operation of a fighter is more than 44 thousand dollars. And still, these fighters break down so often that from October 2008 to May 2009, according to the Pentagon, about 50 percent of the aircraft in service with the Air Force were not ready for use due to technical problems.

With whom the Chinese will fight - I just can’t imagine!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

With whom the Chinese will fight - I just can’t imagine!

And therefore, doesn’t China need to develop its own fighter and arsenal for it? Now there is a good opportunity to get around the Anglo-Saxons, Amers and others like them in the issue of the serial SUCCESSFUL fighter of the 5th generation, both here and among the Chinese, while we are fiddling with F -35/22, trying to give birth to at least something normal. So why miss this chance?
And the same story for PAK FA. Rather, bring to mind, go through the GSI and put into series.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Алексей_К

With whom the Chinese will fight - I just can’t imagine!

And therefore, doesn’t China need to develop its own fighter and arsenal for it? Now there is a good opportunity to get around the Anglo-Saxons, Amers and others like them in the issue of the serial SUCCESSFUL fighter of the 5th generation, both here and among the Chinese, while we are fiddling with F -35/22, trying to give birth to at least something normal. So why miss this chance?
And the same story for PAK FA. Rather, bring to mind, go through the GSI and put into series.

You are in your role, you are turning everything over. A SAG reader stated that all these Chinese missiles with a range of 20 km. will not even be launched from their planes, tk. will be destroyed by 5th generation aircraft from a distance of 100 km.
I did not say that "China does not need to develop its own fighter and arsenal for it?"
Do you really want to write lies about me that you could not tolerate?

[sharp-lad]

Well, they don’t have to fight, it’s enough to just be the strongest in the region and no one will want to tempt fate!

[mopok]

Is there anything that an air-to-air rocket has a solid fuel engine, but doesn’t the airplane have?

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

The plane has the same solid fuel - coal.

[VP]

Resource. Or fly 20 km or work hundreds of hours - the difference is amazing.

[Wiruz]

I wonder who this time copied?

[Tusv]

Quote: Wiruz

I wonder who this time copied?

Not hard to guess. Aimless rockets are in service only in the Russian Air Force

[Mera joota]

Quote: Tusv

Not hard to guess. Aimless rockets are in service only in the Russian Air Force

An interesting definition, "Aimless missiles" are those that fly anywhere?

[Tusv]

Quote: Mera Joota

An interesting definition, "Aimless missiles" are those that fly anywhere?

It launches a rocket, without changing course and there is no purpose. It does not matter which way this byak flies.

[Mera joota]

Quote: Tusv

It launches a rocket, without changing course and there is no purpose. It does not matter which way this byak flies.

Yeah ... definition ...

[Tusv]

Well, the author wrote better. Because he is a journalist, and I am a reader

capable of hitting targets that are away from the line of sight

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Mera Joota

Quote: Tusv

Not hard to guess. Aimless rockets are in service only in the Russian Air Force

An interesting definition, "Aimless missiles" are those that fly anywhere?

Precisely noticed, not only in the sauna, for women! It is somehow difficult to imagine that there is no sight on the plane.

[Mera joota]

Quote: Wiruz

I wonder who this time copied?

With European IRIS-T

Compare

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Mera Joota

With European IRIS-T

Yes, almost all suspension missiles are alike. Where did you see the resemblance here? More than a dozen external differences.

[Karlovar]

I always wonder when they shout, from whom did they copy? If you go to the nearest electronics store, who will determine whose production TVs, laptops, tablets, smartphones, if you first cover the nameplates on them ??? After all, almost all of them are the same, in any case, for most ordinary people ....

[Iline]

Quote: Wiruz

I wonder who this time copied?

I don’t understand something - the article talks about some short-range missile, and in the photo is our strategic X-55 and it is suspended under the Tu-160. Somehow incorrectly ...

[veksha50]

The Chinese do not cease to amaze with their energy, capacity and breadth of the range of military-technical development ...

Actually, in five to ten years they will no longer need any allies, and the fire-breathing dragon will begin to solve its geopolitical problems ...

[evfrat]

Oil and gas will not grow anyway. Unions are rarely based on the superiority of swords from one over the other. This is the basis for vassalism. I think so ... we should not worry. Only if their malice is not moderate, no one will forgive this.

[Karlovar]

In the military-industrial complex they repeat the path of the USSR in the 30-40-50-60s .... And in the economy they repeat the path of post-war Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore .... Why reinvent the wheel again ????? For it is expensive and time consuming, but time is so close (the "partner" is dissatisfied) ....

[Tusv]

The US military-industrial complex promises such a missile only by 2017. We have, the Chinese are experiencing. Yankees behind

[Engineer]

Is this the same PL-10 that the Chinese have been sawing for 30 years?

[evfrat]

Do not tell me what we are sawing, the last 30 years?

[f, hfrjlf, hf]

here all weapons fade against the backdrop of the statement by state Siluanov to increase his retirement period, which he completely demolished; take him away from pensions away if the pensions are touched, the government ceases to have authority in the country at once in an extreme case, borrow old women from Abramovich but do not touch their pensions

[Loner_53]

Quote: f, hfrjlf, hf

here all the weapons fade against the background of the statement of state Siluanov to increase the retirement period for him, which there generally completely demolished the tower, take him away from pensions away

Away and preferably forever, from where they do not return And here you can see the income of this Mr. http://declarator.org/person/672/. Let him share with senior citizens

[fzr1000]

Looked. The welfare of Russian officials is growing. Where is he going? The coffins have no pockets, but the officials have conscience and measures.

[evfrat]

Necessary measure. Look at the ratio of youth to retirees in the country. There is no one to work, who could - does not work or does not work as required from him. If there are two pensioners per worker, then this is a disaster for many states. So, you need to think first. Here is what we are served in the media, as the next vy.s.ere. liberals, and not a necessary necessity - at least strange ...

[Loner_53]

Or maybe it’s a little to cut the salaries of the Siluanovs, which amount to tens of millions? It will be easier, you look at the average life expectancy of our men. The root is not in increasing the age at retirement, but maybe in something else?

[evfrat]

To argue with your statement is stupid ...

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Add retirement age. And whoever doesn’t find a job in a civilian is a contracted army. What's the use of it? After 60 people, as a rule, are no longer workers. For the ratio to be different, you need to give birth to children! And for this you need to implement a real policy of supporting families with children, and not just what is happening here - one empty chatter. This I declare as the head of a family in which there are four children. It's not about the liberals. What is the difference in what color a cat is, the main thing is that it catches mice.

[Black Colonel]

And hto will cut back something?

[Cyril7377]

Well, yes, I agree, it may not increase the retirement age but try to create new jobs ...

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

And bring Tajiks or humanoids from Mars so that they work in these places. If the birth rate has fallen, then it needs to be raised!

[Karlovar]

Today, the effect of increasing the birth rate will be in 25-30 years ...

[Karlovar]

Already in Europe there is talk of raising the retirement age ... The big baby generation has just begun to retire, the peak will be in 7-8 years ... And this large generation of old people should feed the small generation of working age! This is a purely demographic trap, almost all countries have fallen into it ... Robert Kiyasaki predicted it 5 years before the crisis of 2008! Moreover, he said that it would be a pension crisis at its core ... He also predicted that when the baby boomer retirees massively start selling their shares (their savings in shares), the collapse of Western stock exchanges will happen !!! It remains to wait 7-8 years, check his prediction ....

[Tambov Wolf]

That’s not all. Business travelers will cancel, having saved 56 billion people on food, then they will increase pensions to Soviet Delaputes for the collapse of the USSR to 200 thousand rubles http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1611168/. But that’s not all. Everything is just beginning. Good evening to all of you.

[Sergey-8848]

With a declared range of 20 km - this is not a rocket at all, but a guided mine. In principle, a brick will fly 20 km, dropped from a great height at Mach = 2. Maybe a typo in the article, and meant 200 km.
What to print the devil knows what, check the information (both numbers and letters), dear site administrators, and moderators - watch!)! Any fascist "Fau" flew more than 20 km, but no one shoved this information into "VO" as a super achievement.
PS Of course, before neither "VO" existed, nor the Internet at all, but nevertheless this does not mean that there is no need to read and check the released text.

[Mera joota]

Quote: Sergey-8848

With a declared range of 20 km - this is not a rocket at all, but a guided mine. In principle, a brick will fly 20 km, dropped from a great height at Mach = 2. Maybe a typo in the article, and meant 200 km.

Short-range air-to-air missiles (they are also melee) should not (and are not physically capable) fly 200 km. because their dimensions are small, the average length is 3 m, the diameter is 0,125 m., where is the fuel from there at 200 km?
The domestic analogue of the RVV-MD also flies at 20km. and I’ll notice this a lot. Previously, short-range missiles (historically with infrared seeker) flew no more than 5 km. for they were intended for close combat, which took place at a distance of about 1 km., and a distance of 20 km. It was considered average, at such a distance our R-23 and American AIM-7 Sparrow worked.

Quote: Sergey-8848

PS Of course, before neither "VO" existed, nor the Internet at all, but nevertheless this does not mean that there is no need to read and check the released text.

With the text, everything is fine, but with the illustrations here, as always, it is depressing. To squeeze a photo of the tactical cruise missile X-10 (with conformal tanks) into the Tu-55 bomb bay in an article about the MD PL-160 missile ...

[Sergey-8848]

All right bruiser, indicated in the photo (as an addition to the article), for close air combat should not be launched. For similar calibers, in addition to range, occasionally a parameter such as KVO is also used.

[IAlex]

According to the article, I already thought that they had created a highly maneuverable missile for breaking through the air defense missile defense and laser systems, such as using charges or gas under pressure, and here it’s just an ordinary rocket ...

[Reserve buildbat]

It seems that this PL-10 is an analogue of our long-standing P-60 in terms of characteristics. Although that one, it seemed, initially had a range of 28km.

[vetlan19]

Quote: Wiruz

I wonder who this time copied?

There are inscriptions in Russian, turn the picture over

[sharp-lad]

Well, well, even the inscriptions were copied!

[NordUral]

Soon, the day of the machine builder, somehow I felt sad. The Chinese now have our 40-50 years, I envied.

[Wolka]

the Chinese declared their super-maneuverable missile, and what do we have similar? ...