Americans "teach" their helicopters to land on the relief surface

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The US Department of Defense's promising project agency (DARPA) presented a system that allows the helicopter to land on almost any hard surface without danger of damaging the rotor, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.



“Instead of a standard wheeled chassis or metal skis, engineers suggested an adaptive“ four-legged ”device, each bearing of which is equipped with power sensitive sensors. When landing, they determine the angle of deployment so that the helicopter body remains in a horizontal position, ”the newspaper writes.

If necessary, the robotic system can tilt the board in different planes, while minimizing the risk of the ground touching the blades.

During takeoff, the supports are pulled up to the “belly” of the car, minimizing the effect on the aerodynamic parameters.

“Our equipment, mounted on an unmanned helicopter, has successfully demonstrated the ability to land and take off from sites with difficult terrain. With traditional chassis it would be impossible. ”- said the project manager Ashish Bagay.

According to him, “an innovative chassis reduces the risk of damage to the aircraft during hard landings at least five times as compared with the usual one, ensures a stable landing and take-off on slopes up to 20 degrees, and also simplifies the pilot’s task during a deck landing.

He also noted that this "landing gear can be installed on helicopters of almost any type and size."

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  1. +4
    23 September 2015 13: 27
    On slopes up to 20 degrees? Better carry a relief platform with you! laughing
    A bullet hit, or, moreover, a projectile, will render all this "brilliant" invention unusable.
    1. +13
      23 September 2015 13: 41
      Not a bad idea, but it will make the aircraft heavier, making it impossible to take off on an airplane. Although in Amer, the army apparently does not practice the latter.
      In those photos that are presented, the design takes about 1/4 of the weight.
      1. +3
        23 September 2015 14: 27
        Quote: juborg
        make it impossible to take off on an airplane.

        Well, if skis are instead of wheels, anyway, takeoff "by plane" is not used.
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      2. +6
        23 September 2015 14: 57
        And from my point of view, a rather interesting design. Technology does not stand still: the wheeled chassis has supplanted the ski, and now many-legged will displace the wheeled.
      3. +2
        23 September 2015 15: 02
        , make it impossible to take off on an airplane


        Not only this. The ability to roll back or deploy the car even with idle engines must be left.
      4. +3
        23 September 2015 15: 10
        Quote: juborg
        make it impossible to take off on an airplane.

        Put wheels on the ends of the "paws" and everyone will be happy fellow
        And you can ski on each paw (or skates wassat )
        1. +4
          23 September 2015 15: 33
          Quote: Corporal
          Put wheels on the ends of the "paws" and everyone will be happy
          And you can ski on each paw (or skates

          And for each ski on a swamp track. Will be! good belay
        2. +1
          23 September 2015 16: 31
          In Soviet times, Japanese engineers massively bought up our magazines "Science and Life", "Young Technician" for the sake of just one page "Little Tricks", where our peasants gave out priceless "know-how" for free!
      5. 0
        24 September 2015 00: 30
        Quote: juborg
        Nice idea.

        More than just not bad.
        - Great idea! good
        Especially if it is implemented for any small helicopter-type UAVs (which we see in the video), for which the choice of landing sites will be much easier.
        Quote: juborg
        make it impossible to take off on an airplane.

        Well, this is far from a fact, if the wheels are fastened to the ends of these steered racks, instead of plugs it will fly like a pretty one.
        Quote: juborg
        In those photos that are presented, the design takes about 1/4 of the weight.

        Well, even if at least 3/4, this is a technology demonstrator. In general, it is surprising that on top of this design there is a helicopter, not a cable bay, but a transparent box with sensors.
    2. +11
      23 September 2015 13: 57
      After hitting "Pines", "Shell" or "Attack-O", even the Apache "sits" on the rocks and on the forest. Sometimes "Needles" are enough for "landing on difficult terrain", however, often in fragments.
      1. +3
        23 September 2015 14: 32
        Quote: Thronekeeper
        After hitting "Pines", "Shell" or "Attack-O", even the Apache "sits" on the rocks and on the forest. Sometimes "Needles" are enough for "landing on difficult terrain", however, often in fragments.

        Well, what about Stinger? Ask our helicopter pilots who flew in Afghanistan! Why make fun of that? Again, we are the best and we do not care?
      2. +5
        23 September 2015 14: 50
        Quote: Thronekeeper
        After hitting "Pines", "Shell" or "Attack-O", even the Apache "sits" on the rocks and on the forest.



        Jokingly, but in mountainous areas such equipment can give a good advantage ...

        Although - it will complicate the equipment, design and their maintenance ...
        1. 0
          23 September 2015 16: 45
          Quote: veksha50
          Although - complicate the equipment,

          Of course it will be more difficult than a conventional chassis, but not so much - nowadays any truck crane has hydraulic supports that allow it to adapt on a construction site - to set the machine horizontally. hi
  2. +7
    23 September 2015 13: 28
    The idea is good, and the implementation is rather trivial 16 servos and a gyroscope ...
    1. +3
      23 September 2015 13: 55
      It will plow the earth, and with small screws it will take off for a long time, and in the mountains the lifting force changes due to the blow of the wind
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 16: 48
        Quote: bubla5
        Will plow the earth

        So for this they came up with so that the land does not plow! Take a closer look! smile
  3. +2
    23 September 2015 13: 28
    There is something in it.
    I think we have thoughts on this.
    1. Riv
      +6
      23 September 2015 13: 30
      We don’t put helicopters on the slope. What are these difficulties for? Just pull the rope from the winch.
      1. +4
        23 September 2015 13: 35
        Just lower the cable from the winch.


        The cable does not always help, agree.
        There has always been a need to land on a not entirely ideal site. Usually made freezes. The cargo was dropped, BP, people were landing.
    2. +6
      23 September 2015 14: 44
      There is something in it.


      Yes there is of course. And they did not immediately come to the retractable landing gear and to the free-carrying wing without struts and braces. And stomp, as I understand it in this direction ... By the way, spiders do not have muscles in their paws - chitin tubes straighten with fluid pressure. With a decrease in pressure, they bend themselves. Designs do not have to be metal. Maybe we'll see a chassis made of oblong balloons smile
  4. 0
    23 September 2015 13: 29
    Americans "teach" their helicopters to land on the relief surface
    Well, for now, they will teach how many will forget how to fly them! feel
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 13: 37
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      Americans "teach" their helicopters to land on the relief surface
      Well, for now, they will teach how many will forget how to fly them! feel

      Rather, they will learn to walk, and then with them, for a few more lards of greenery, they will remove the rotor and get a walker.
  5. +2
    23 September 2015 13: 31
    Well done by their engineers, really do not stand still. Although most of these works will not go into a series, there is a search, and sometimes implementation. But how much will such a design increase the price and reduce the maintainability of military equipment?
    1. -2
      23 September 2015 13: 47
      .... Well done their engineers, really do not stand still ...


      ... Well, yes .... Looks like they want to get the Shnobel Prize !!!! ....
      1. +6
        23 September 2015 13: 53
        Why sarcasm? Work is ongoing, search is underway, related technologies are developing. Do you know about the verticalizer for spinal patients, which helps them walk? What do you think in our country they are made? Or are work underway?
    2. +1
      23 September 2015 14: 12
      Quote: Maksus
      Well done by their engineers, really do not stand still. Although most of these works will not go into a series, there is a search, and sometimes implementation. But how much will such a design increase the price and reduce the maintainability of military equipment?

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      The next stage will probably be the ancient as the world idea of ​​a lever pneumatic suspension used on trailed equipment and tanks, there is another option for telescope legs, there is an option for a folding rhombus as on a jack, there is an option for an air bag ... Well done engineers, you have to try everything ...
      1. -5
        23 September 2015 14: 23
        This is not about applying old technologies, but introducing new ones. What are telescopes, why are you writing some nonsense?
        1. +4
          23 September 2015 14: 49
          .... What are telescopes, why are you writing some nonsense? ..


          .... Why nonsense ??? ... Very sensible suggestions of a colleague .... Why reinvent the wheel ???? ... You can delete tonsils through w ..pu, but this does not mean that such a tricky way is better classic .... A colleague approached the issue creatively, by engineering, and not by the principle of amateur ... What do you dislike ??? ...
          1. +2
            23 September 2015 15: 39
            Do not like, it will be right. This is the first.
            And the second - why write nonsense? It is a complex technology that allows MEASURING the angle of heel of the helicopter and ADJUST it, i.e. about feedback system. All newness lies precisely in this, and not in jacks and telescopic legs.
            This is a dual-use technology that will certainly find application in civilian life. To help the same spinal cord is a huge plus. Have you seen the eyes of 20 year olds who know they will no longer be able to walk? Now imagine that they will have "mechanical legs" that independently support the vertical position of a person? What is not a reason to rejoice?
            1. 0
              23 September 2015 16: 03
              ... DO NOT LIKE, it will be right. This is the first. ..

              ... Second or first ... No need to teach me grammar ... I am already old and my education is still far from Soviet ... Then they taught well at school .... :)))) I quickly type-a typo (letter "t "and soft sign-adjacent keys) :)))) ...
              ... Regarding ".. Have you seen the eyes of 20-year-old people who know that they will no longer be able to walk?" ... It's all sad ... This "invention" may be useful there ... But these people can and will live, I hope for a long time .... Judging by your avatar, you are a doctor and such patients are a sick topic for you ...
            2. +1
              23 September 2015 18: 21
              Quote: Maksus
              It is a complex technology that allows MEASURING the angle of heel of the helicopter and ADJUST it, i.e. about feedback system. All newness lies precisely in this, and not in jacks and telescopic legs.

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              What is so difficult you saw in the photo of the "dumb drone" (this is how I translated the name on board)? What complex system is there? Feedbacks in mechanics have been used for a long time, just before they were mechanical or electromechanical, now they were helped by sensors and a computer, this principle has long been used in TEBS, a vehicle stabilization system. We just decided to help not quite qualified pilots and expand the capabilities of the turntables ... As for the lever air suspension, they are also a very modern design, they allow the Korean super-duper tank to walk on the slope ... Telescopic legs why confuse you? Place the same sensors on your heels and when you touch, they send the same feedback signals to the control unit, and from there to the compressor and air distributor, which will supply the right amount of air ... Anything else to chew? Or will you guess further?
        2. 0
          23 September 2015 16: 56
          Quote: Maksus
          What are telescopes, why are you writing some nonsense?

          I mean the telescopic system - can you imagine a folding antenna? smile
  6. +1
    23 September 2015 13: 31
    Well, not really fantastic
  7. +1
    23 September 2015 13: 32
    this "news" has been at least a week
  8. +1
    23 September 2015 13: 33
    Russian helicopter builders will not remain in debt ...
  9. +1
    23 September 2015 13: 35
    Better yet, make these stilts with wheels, then they will be completely universal, and in winter on skis ...
    1. +2
      23 September 2015 13: 51
      Wow! wassat Inclined wheels ...
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 14: 42
        Quote: Signor Tomato
        Wow! wassat Wheels on an incline ..

        But what difference does it make - the wheels are brake, but in general - a very complicated design, in the future, maybe it will find application, but not now ...
  10. +1
    23 September 2015 13: 37
    Our artillery will be able to prepare a relief surface.
    1. +5
      23 September 2015 13: 42
      Quote: twincam
      Our artillery will be able to prepare a relief surface.

      This is not only a military application, in the civilian sector it will be very popular, especially among rescuers. It is better to evacuate the victims without lifting them with a winch, but directly at the door.
      1. -3
        23 September 2015 13: 54
        Quote: Mera Joota
        It is better to evacuate the victims without lifting them with a winch, but directly at the door.

        Dear, in order to enter the cargo compartment of the turntable, a stepladder is still "fastened" to the floor, and the winch is located on top of the "door" and the evacuee is pulled up to the level of the opening in the hull.
        1. +3
          23 September 2015 14: 12
          Have you seen Huey (we are talking about American technology)? Where is that winch clinging?
          1. 0
            23 September 2015 18: 19
            Quote: Maksus
            Have you seen Huey (we are talking about American technology)?

            Firstly, I didn’t answer you and it was about the Mi-8T, 1982 issue.
            Quote: Maksus
            Where is that winch clinging?

            The figure eight has a standard winch.
        2. +4
          23 September 2015 14: 22
          Quote: V.ic
          Dear, in order to enter the cargo compartment of the turntable, a stepladder is still "fastened" to the floor, and the winch is located on top of the "door" and the evacuee is pulled up to the level of the opening in the hull.

          But do not "catch" people like a butterfly net, because it is not so easy to hover, the weather is not always ideal, but to work in calm conditions when loading. This is a big difference.
          1. 0
            23 September 2015 18: 16
            Quote: Manul
            But do not "catch" people like a butterfly net, because it is not so easy to hover, not always ideal weather, but to work during loading in calm conditions.

            And you did it yourself, personally? At least I provided training on lifting from the surface of the lake on Mi-8 in 1985 in Primorye, being an NGO in military unit 01952.
            1. 0
              23 September 2015 23: 55
              Quote: V.ic
              And you did it yourself, personally? At least I provided training on lifting from the surface of the lake on Mi-8 in 1985 in Primorye, being an NGO in military unit 01952.

              hi I am very happy for you, really. But why are you not satisfied with possible technologies that will allow helicopters to land in difficult conditions and not to hang? This article is about new opportunities, not about old difficulties that you successfully overcome.
  11. +2
    23 September 2015 14: 22
    Not bad "invented", although G. Wells was closer to the topic, since a combat tripod can be lighter (three not four) and besides, the tripod adapts better and easier to the surrounding landscape. At the same time, it is possible to use only the movable attachment point, which changes the angle of inclination of the entire flying vehicle, instead of controlling each leg-paw separately. )))
  12. +2
    23 September 2015 14: 37
    Great idea! As soon as you did not think of it?
  13. +1
    23 September 2015 15: 30
    I do not understand what can prevent one leg from "turning up"? And --- "face on the table".
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 15: 43
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I do not understand what can prevent one leg from "turning up"? And --- "face on the table".

      He will ride on three. laughing
  14. 0
    23 September 2015 16: 14
    But he will jump, perhaps, losing his balance, will fall. But to stay on landing on 3 legs - hardly. Nodo try some modelki
  15. 0
    23 September 2015 18: 06
    without their help, we will plant on our relief terrain and use ...
  16. +1
    23 September 2015 19: 26
    It was more expedient to make a tricycle scheme. With it, the emphasis on all "legs" is always guaranteed, and the automatic load distribution is simpler. Each leg can have its own T-shaped legs, which together will give the support additional stability.
  17. 0
    25 September 2015 18: 16
    The thing is actually useful, especially for search engines ...