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Donbass Contact Group could not agree on central issues

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In particular, after the next round of negotiations, the contact group on the settlement of the conflict in Donbass and its four subgroups successfully held another round of negotiations, during which they again discussed the withdrawal of weapons in caliber to 100-mm and mortars in 120-mm.




Touching on the political aspects of resolving the conflict in the east of Ukraine, the OSCE Representative in the contact group, Martin Saidyk, after the talks, told a group of journalists that the proposals of the LPR and the DPR to hold local elections in February 2016 were discussed during the majority of discussions.

On Tuesday, before the start of the meeting, the authorized representative of the LPR, Vladislav Deinego, said that the self-proclaimed republics would offer the contact group employees a reasoned timetable for the implementation of the political points of the Minsk agreements. According to him, the authorities of the DPR and the LPR “calculated the date of the local elections in the Donbass - 21 in February 2016 of the year”, while the Ukrainian authorities called elections to local authorities for October 25.

“It turned out in the discussions that, despite this proposal (LNR), the elections will nevertheless be held on October 18 and November 1 in most of the ORLO and ORDO (certain areas of Lugansk and Donetsk regions). This fact was confirmed by representatives of ORDO and ORLO in the course of plenary discussions, ”RIA "News".

New consultations on the withdrawal were conducted by the security subgroup. Saidik stressed that the result was an “open, positive and constructive discussion.”

“Talks continued on the proposed challenge plan tanks, artillery with a caliber of less than 100 millimeters and mortars with a caliber of 120 millimeters. The parties have not yet reached an agreement on this issue, ”he stressed.
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  1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
    Uncle VasyaSayapin 23 September 2015 08: 46 New
    +2
    It's time to negotiate. How much can you shoot.
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 23 September 2015 08: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
      It's time to negotiate. How much can you shoot.

      It is impossible to agree when the parties diametrically interpret the same Minsk agreements. Until there is consensus on the Ukrainian issue between Russia and the United States, things will not move forward. It is obvious.
      1. Good me
        Good me 23 September 2015 09: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Penetrator
        It is impossible to agree when the parties diametrically interpret the same Minsk agreements. Until there is consensus on the Ukrainian issue between Russia and the United States, things will not move forward. It is obvious.


        It means badly prescribed, since the text allows us to interpret it in two ways.
        Even if this could not be done for some reason, the mechanism WOULD it be possible to indicate clearly the control over the fulfillment of clauses of obligations?

        In general, as they approached, crookedly askew to this matter, the way it is being implemented.

        Ukraine then, it is clear, such a situation is beneficial ...

        But the "high parties-signatories" in the person of Russia, Germany, France, feel very uncomfortable sitting in a puddle ...
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    2. avt
      avt 23 September 2015 09: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
      It's time to negotiate. How much can you shoot.

      Well, really agreeing is of course always healthier than shooting. But your comment to which article is actually! ?? Nothing laid out - ,, the Contact Group for Donbass could not agree on central issues, "where is the key - ,, did not agree" ???
      Quote: meriem1
      Kiev is doing everything to ensure that there are no elections in the Donbass !!! In order to blame the DNI and LC for the breakdown of Minsk-2.

      It has long been blamed and the upcoming elections are not recognized.
      Quote: meriem1
      . U.S. ears are visible with the naked eye.

      And this fact is quite obvious - all the rhetoric became aggravated after Giblets calmed down after the enema inserted into him, Merkel immediately flew Nuland and away we go.
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 23 September 2015 09: 40 New
      +2
      Yes, this will not end until people in Ukraine are ready, ready for their strange idea to go east and kill their fellow citizens simply because they do not share their position.
    4. revnagan
      revnagan 23 September 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
      How much can you shoot.

      Until they destroy all Bandera and their sympathizers, one cannot repeat the mistake of the Soviet regime and leave them alive.
  2. vovanpain
    vovanpain 23 September 2015 08: 48 New
    +13
    It can be expressed shorter, transfusion from empty to empty. One is glad that so far is relatively quiet.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 23 September 2015 08: 53 New
      +6
      Quote: vovanpain
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      And for some reason I’m not surprised that I didn’t agree. Kiev is doing everything to ensure that there are no elections in the Donbass !!! In order to blame the DNI and LC for the breakdown of Minsk-2. Although a long time ago we have done absolutely everything that would be to disrupt. U.S. ears are visible with the naked eye.
      1. Tra-ta-ta
        Tra-ta-ta 23 September 2015 09: 09 New
        +2
        And for some reason I’m not surprised that I didn’t agree.
        ..not agreed because the Russian language is very difficult for them ..
        "Give in the face" and "give in the face" - this, in principle, is one and the same ..
        But "give in the ass" and "give in the ass" - these are two big differences ..!
  3. serg1970
    serg1970 23 September 2015 08: 48 New
    +4
    “Negotiations continued on the proposed plan for the withdrawal of tanks, artillery with a caliber of less than 100 millimeters and mortars with a caliber of 120 millimeters. Parties have not yet reached agreement on this issue.»

    Which is not surprising. It is unrealistic to agree with the junta. They understand only the orders of their leaders from the State Department. Well, even for bribes from Europe, they can pretend that they are doing something.
    1. Good me
      Good me 23 September 2015 09: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: serg1970
      Which is not surprising. It is unrealistic to agree with the junta. They understand only the orders of their leaders from the State Department. Well, even for bribes from Europe, they can pretend that they are doing something.


      There are factors that act more efficiently and convincingly than orders, and even money.

      Read, impressed and inspired. Straight KURSK, V 2.0 ...


      PARADOXES OF THE “CENTURY OF INFORMATION.” ZAKHAR PRILEPIN

      RUSSIAN SURVEILLANCE - 16.09.2015

      An excellent son of the Ossetian people, my acquaintance, a militia, and now journalist Alan Mamiev says: “I don’t know if everyone is in the know, but in August punitives were planning an offensive. Strength and funds for this pulled enough. They assembled an armored fist to strike. But here's the bad luck ... As soon as they were about to advance, they began to warm up the equipment, literally on warming up they were definitely covered by someone’s artillery (probably their own). The losses were very large. All the figures are different, I don’t have exact figures, but the fact remains that the offensive ended without even starting. ” I described exactly the same situation (that is, I was a witness in a sense) - but only about 10 months ago, or so. Intelligence works. And then I wrote the following. Kiev does not report about it, because it once again disgraced. Foreign media do not write about it, because they do not like this news. Naturally, Russia is also silent, because it has nothing to do with it. As a result, very important events are unknown to the world. But in general, these events, meanwhile, have a meaning, frankly, worldly. Such are the paradoxes of the "age of information." Zahar Prilepin


      Source: http://rusdozor.ru/2015/09/16/paradoksy-veka-informacii-zaxar-prilepin/
      © RusDozor.ru
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  4. 2224460
    2224460 23 September 2015 08: 50 New
    +5
    Donbass Contact Group could not agree on central issues
    The owners didn’t give the go-ahead, they still need a “terrible and aggressive” Russia, but they never had their own will. All these “terra” (contact meetings and other Minsk1,2, ....) transfusion from empty empty.
  5. little girl15
    little girl15 23 September 2015 08: 59 New
    +1
    Do they really want to come to an agreement in Kiev? They need a victory, moreover, at all costs. In order to squeeze out those who disagree and kill the rest.
  6. solovey
    solovey 23 September 2015 09: 01 New
    +2
    Yes, all this is nonsense !!! It is impossible to negotiate with the fascists as well as with the terrorists !!!
  7. asar
    asar 23 September 2015 09: 04 New
    +2
    “Negotiations continued on the proposed plan for the withdrawal of tanks, artillery with a caliber of less than 100 millimeters and mortars with a caliber of 120 millimeters. The parties have not yet reached an agreement on this issue, ”

    "Bazaar" was NOTHING!
    In vain they burned gas while driving to Minsk!
    The front is in the top ten - another km from Donetsk! What can one agree on with these ghouls, with such a balance of power and arrangement of the front ?!
    Yes, today it’s like peace, a truce, but what will happen tomorrow - the day after tomorrow, in a week, a month?
    They, these ur.odam can be trusted ?! And how much - to believe ?!
    How can you believe them, their mother, officers who carry such nonsense -
    Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin accused Russia of training militants of the Islamic State terrorist group.

    Well, and how then to talk with THEM ?! How can you talk to them about anything ?!
    Can Russia speak with a “mechanical part” - “Gear” ?! What is the “bazaar" with the "mechanical part" about ?!

    Half of my group stayed in HP, so "go-wander", "work", in short!
  8. roskot
    roskot 23 September 2015 09: 06 New
    +3
    They do not agree with the Nazis. They are beaten. And it cannot be otherwise.