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Is the US close to sending Hiroshim 80 to Germany?

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The German television channel ZDF came out with a story that the United States prepared another “gift” for Germany. It is about the readiness to place in Germany (on aviation the Bundeswehr base "Büchel") new nuclear samples weapons. Journalists ZDF stated that they received such information by analyzing the American plans for the implementation of the military budget that fell to them. A German TV channel says that the United States is going to deliver new aviation ammunition B61-12 to Büchel, which can carry Tornado airplanes.


Is the US close to sending Hiroshim 80 to Germany?


According to some reports, the Americans are planning to deploy this same type of nuclear weapon at the aircraft bases "Incirlik" (Turkey) and "Aviano" (Italy). The B61-12 has significantly improved accuracy compared to similar nuclear weapons of the previous generation. The bombs were developed on the basis of B61 - the main weapon of the US strategic nuclear forces, developed by a laboratory in Los Alamos. The commencement of the operation of these bombs as part of US strategic aviation began in 1968. Over the years, 11 has been created for various modifications of this weapon. Now the turn reached the 12 th modification - B61-12. According to the German media, 20 nuclear bombs will be delivered to Germany, the total power of which exceeds the power of 80 Hiroshim (bombs dropped on this Japanese city in 1945 by the same States).

The Russian Foreign Ministry commented on US plans to place new bombs in Germany. Maria Zakharova spoke on this subject:
The so-called practice of "sharing nuclear weapons" within NATO is of concern. Exercises related to the preparation and use of nuclear weapons by personnel of the armed forces of non-nuclear-weapon States constitute a direct violation of Articles 1 and 2 of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. This abnormal situation has persisted for more than forty years, but this does not make it more acceptable.


The German Defense Ministry is refusing official comments on the possible deployment of a new US nuclear weapon in Germany.
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  1. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 22 September 2015 18: 37 New
    18
    The Americans decided to make a nuclear test site from Europe
    1. SteelRatTV
      SteelRatTV 22 September 2015 18: 40 New
      +9
      Yeah. Regular “peace initiatives” of distributors of “democratic values”. am
    2. Throw
      Throw 22 September 2015 18: 42 New
      17
      Yes, not a training ground. Target. am
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 22 September 2015 18: 46 New
        12
        It is necessary to Belarus Yars or Iskander with special. bch send, as they are the CSTO, we have the right to deploy nuclear weapons on their territory. After all, the United States places nuclear weapons on the territory of the countries participating in the alliance.
        1. Svyatogor
          Svyatogor 22 September 2015 19: 06 New
          11
          Not only in Belarus it is also necessary to deploy in Kaliningrad and it would be nice to put a dozen missiles in Cuba,
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 22 September 2015 19: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: Svyatogor
            Not only in Belarus it is also necessary to deploy in Kaliningrad and it would be nice to put a dozen missiles in Cuba,

            OTRK "Iskander-M" with a nuclear charge and of course warn
        2. opus
          opus 23 September 2015 20: 53 New
          0
          Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
          It is necessary to Belarus Yars or Iskander with special. bch send

          Yars ... what's the point? jeopardize NATO aviation and NATO OTR NATOBDRG?

          And Iskander to Landkreis Cochem-Zell, Fliegerhorst (50 ° 10 ′ 26 ″ N, 7 ° 3 ′ 48 ″ O) - Won't get it (1100km)
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 22 September 2015 19: 05 New
        11
        Merkel has finally lost her last brain, or is she smoked something against the wall so that she is ready to make a target from her country?
        1. zennon
          zennon 22 September 2015 19: 25 New
          +5
          Quote: Kent0001
          Merkel has finally lost her last brain, or is she smoked something against the wall so that she is ready to make a target from her country?

          You are mistaken. This is not about placing what was not there. Matrassia had its own nuclear weapons in Germany a long time ago. Now they just update it. 6 years ago, the Bundestag voted to withdraw nuclear weapons from the country, but the decision was not made.
        2. opus
          opus 23 September 2015 21: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Kent0001
          what is she ready to make a target from her country?

          And then Frau Angela?
          RAF Brüggen Kreis Viersen Nordrhein-Westfalen British bombs on WE.177 bombs (100 years in the afternoon)

          Ramstein Air Base Landkreis Kaiserslautern Rheinland-Pfalz 2005 (they write that they are removed, but 100% lie) United States bombs Typ B-61-3 und B-61-4

          Flughafen Memmingen MemmingenBayern 55x Nukleare US Air Bombs Typ B61 (4x in QRA-Bereitschaft)

          Sondermunitionslager LahnLandkreis Emsland Niedersachsen SACEUR central warehouse for nuclear warheads W70, W50, W52 (bis max 400 kt)
          Diensthop Landkreis Verden Niedersachsen ammunition and ammunition for grenades (für Raketenartillerie, Atomgranaten)
          Liebenau Landkreis Nienburg / Weser Niedersachsen same
          Dünsen Landkreis Oldenburg Niedersachsen same
          Dortmund Nordrhein-Westfalen special warehouse for JBF type TR Lance

          Kreis Coesfeld Nordrhein-Westfalen Junk Junk 2./RakArtLehrBtl 72; Honest john

          --------------------
          Tell Mikhail Sergeyevich and EBN with Schvarnadze Danke Schoen
      3. Alex Nick
        Alex Nick 22 September 2015 19: 49 New
        0
        I hope that the Iskander pointed out where it should be.
        1. opus
          opus 23 September 2015 21: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Alex Nick
          I hope that the Iskander pointed out where it should be.

          1. Scanners "do not fly there" (do not fly)
          2. So many OTR Iskander with SBCH is simply not
      4. Thronekeeper
        Thronekeeper 23 September 2015 05: 06 New
        0
        For "Iskayderov2 with a range of 500km really target.
        Only now, the Iskanders will begin to complete the MSC. Kt at 400.
        what the Germans are thinking7
        1. opus
          opus 23 September 2015 22: 04 New
          0
          Quote: Thronekeeper
          For "Iskayderov2 with a range of 500km really target.

          here for 250km.


          Very Easy = Multiply by 2

          and since when, Iskander, having a range of 280 km, with the same mass began to "shoot" at 500 km?

          the basis of the hostilities in Europe should have been strategic operations carried out by coalition groups of fronts according to a single plan and under a single command. “It was assumed,” he argues, “that the depth of the frontal offensive operation will be up to one thousand kilometers, and the average rate of advance — up to 100 km / day for the combined arms army and even up to 120 km / day for the tank. The achievement of such a pace was ensured by the defeat of the enemy’s battle formations with tactical nuclear weapons simultaneously to the entire depth of the front-line offensive operation. ”


          “After the transfer of the 1970K9 Temp-S systems from the Strategic Rocket Forces in the 76 year to the Ground Forces, front-line commands were able to hit from day one goals to the full depth of tasks advance of the front, further lay the line of demarcation of nuclear strikes by strategic and operational-tactical means and the goals were already within the competence of the Strategic Missile Forces».

          “Initially, the creators of the new two-missile tactical complex 9K715 Iskander set as their goal the creation of a system capable of guaranteed (two missiles) destroy an important target at a distance from 70 to 300 kilometers.

          Quote: Thronekeeper
          CT on 400.

          1. There is no such SBCH for Iskander
          2.No so many Iskander
          3.There are not so many SBCHs for Iskander
          Iskander warhead - 480kg

          Thermonuclear warhead for an operational-tactical missile withdrawn from service under the INF Treaty ... and destroyed

          Charge power up to 200 kilotons of TNT. Flight range up to 450 km. In service with 1981 to 1991
          Museum of RFNC – VNIIEF in Sarov.

          in "Iskander" ... "will not fit"


          1. opus
            opus 23 September 2015 22: 07 New
            0
            Now, if Gorbachev didn’t slow down and we had:
            9K717 Oka-U has grown to Volga with a range of about 1000 kilometers.


            Then yes.




            Projections of the 9M714 Oka, 9M714U Oka-U rockets and the hypothetical view of the Volga missile system

            By the end of the 80-s - the beginning of the 90-s, KBM planned to create a completely new class of missile weapons on the basis of these Volna R&D complexes: a unified universal modular missile system, which could be used in the interests of divisions, armies and fronts of various types of missiles, receiving target designations from different sources ”

            On "Wave" it was planned to introduce missile retargeting according to information from aviation and other “eyes and ears” of reconnaissance and strike complexes.

            Guidance - dvf variantf rocket control systems - traditional inertial on a new elemental base and with radar seeker correlation type (on a digital map of the area in the target area) for guidance at the final stage.
            Rocket - the number of stages - 2, as the first stage, it was probably intended to use the rocket block of the Oka or Oka-U complex.


            But....
            The INF Treaty intervened.
          2. Falcon
            Falcon 23 September 2015 22: 48 New
            0
            Quote: opus
            Iskander, having a range of 280 km, with the same mass began to "shoot" for 500 km?


            280 is not an export option then Iskander?
            But what about the R-500 rocket. Declare a range of 500. The Americans are hinting that they say not 500, violates the INF Treaty.
            D and in general, there is an engine TRDD-50, the mass is comparable to the RK Caliber - range potential up to 2500 km.

            Well, CLUB-K of course.
            1. opus
              opus 23 September 2015 23: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: Falcon
              280 is not an export option then Iskander?

              Iskander and Iskander -E have the same OTR: 9М723
              9M723-1 ("Iskander-M") declared 400km. 4615 kg vs 3800 kg (9М723).
              but there is one but ... a flight profile and (my opinion) with a "light nuclear warhead, power 5-50 ct (" Iskander-M ")
              mk usual - 720 / 800 kg
              to increase 815kg of the starting mass (21% in +) do not get FOR ROCKETS an increase in range in 43%

              PS with the same thrust and (the thrust of the solid propellant rocket is proportional to the combustion area inside the solid rocket motor)
              even though you use monopenisual plasmoid hexofluorides.

              Quote: Falcon
              But what about the P-500 rocket. Declare 500 range.

              so CE is a cruise missile with a range of 500 km, marching speed 230-260 m / slasting flight xnumx minutesmass Warhead 500 kg,
              Quote: Falcon
              The Americans are hinting that it’s not 500 that violates the INF Treaty.

              according to our media
              hints do not pass, psaki is one thing, and a note is another.
              And it’s not about P-500 that they washed their underpants, but about the Yars / Poplar variant facilitated to recreate the INF
              Quote: Falcon
              mass comparable with RK Caliber - range potential to 2500km.

              Well, CLUB-K of course.


              speed and profile.
              on 280 m / s against 2100 m / s you can fly hzk
              range potential to 2500km = not equal to range 2500km
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      1. Tusv
        Tusv 22 September 2015 19: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Observer2014
        Is the US close to sending Hiroshim 80 to Germany?
        As they say in Odessa: And now we must be afraid?

        Not even duty divisions work on Tornadoes. This is not a joke - these gifts will fly by inertia of 20 km
    4. 34 region
      34 region 22 September 2015 18: 53 New
      +4
      Nuclear test site? Yes, and millions of refugees. Interethnic conflicts and nuclear charges! The monkey with the grenade is already an anachronism! That's cool with the core! Apparently, some sort of meat grinder is still plotting.
      1. wanderer987
        wanderer987 22 September 2015 19: 17 New
        +2
        34 region

        You are not mistaken a monkey and not a rational Obama, by God a monkey would never have thought of such a thing!
    5. SAG
      SAG 22 September 2015 19: 05 New
      +1
      Well, if in Germany it gets too crowded, then kamikaze like their government can solve the problem in a short time.
    6. 222222
      222222 22 September 2015 19: 20 New
      +1
      702 MUNSS
      Büchel air base

      50°10′35″N 007°03′28″E
      view and space
      http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=50.183246&lon=7.062675&z=17&m=b&permpoly=52263
      31

      http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=50.171126&lon=7.057858&z=14&m=b&permpoly=52263

      31
      1. quote
        quote 22 September 2015 20: 22 New
        +3
        I apologize, but this is removed from the plane. Corner !!!
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    8. gjv
      gjv 22 September 2015 19: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: sanja.grw
      The Americans decided to make a nuclear test site from Europe

      Quote: Lance
      Yes, not a training ground. Target

      Is the US close to sending Hiroshim 80 to Germany?

      It will not be enough. In Germany, 100 cities are considered large.
      It is necessary to each on a bomb. Here is the target polygon.
      However, whom then our tourists in Turkey will drive on May 9th. It will be boring without the Germans ...
      1. Throw
        Throw 22 September 2015 22: 55 New
        -4
        You, comrade, what fascist taught cities with civilians to genocide?

        We extinguish point by point bases, airfields, missile deployment points, RTV / air defense / missile defense, ports, etc.
        Polite pancake! ..
    9. SALLAK
      SALLAK 22 September 2015 22: 47 New
      +1
      What can I say ... suckers are European ... Americans are on their heads with ... t and they are becoming more tolerant ... refugees were little to them, they also decided to toss up the bored bears ....
    10. PSih2097
      PSih2097 22 September 2015 23: 37 New
      -2
      Quote: sanja.grw
      The Americans decided to make a nuclear test site from Europe

      what can I say ...

  2. svp67
    svp67 22 September 2015 18: 37 New
    13
    This is really not a joke. And all our actions to strengthen our air defense do not seem redundant anymore ... "invisible missiles" for the Polish F16, here are new bombs for the "Tornado", which the US Air Force does not have, but only its European members, and what we don’t know yet? Oh, how not to become calm in the world ...
    1. 222222
      222222 22 September 2015 20: 31 New
      +1
      svp67 SU Today, 18: 37
      Now this is really NOT JOKES. "
      .... Strengthening and technical re-equipment of the occupying United States in Europe is an act directed by the United States to strengthen its influence in this region. But not in any way ensuring its (region's) security ....

      ... In 1823, the 5th president of the United States, James Monroe, formulated the doctrine according to which the whole New World is a zone of vital US interests. This doctrine went down in history as the "Monroe Doctrine" and was used as a justification for many US political and military actions ...
      ... " "The Monroe Doctrine has become the Roosevelt Doctrine, which was far from just another addition to the Monroe Doctrine. Since then, the Roosevelt Doctrine has become the foundation of US power politics around the world, although the United States still refers to the Monroe Doctrine for propaganda and mystification of history." (53)
      The international legal aspects of adding Roosevelt to the Monroe Doctrine can be summarized in the following legal tenets:

      1. USA is the only ruler in the Western Hemisphere. The will of the USA is law. The freedom of absolute one-sided action by the United States is an organizational principle in the Western Hemisphere that defines the international legal relationship between countries in the Western Hemisphere.
      2. The principles of general international law have no application and cannot have in the Western Hemisphere.
      3. The new international law in the Western Hemisphere is created solely by the acts of the will of the United States and therefore its rules do not and cannot have the character of multilateralism. In other words, power is right.
      4. The United States has the absolute right to intervene in the countries of the Western Hemisphere to support its dominion.
      5. Democratic countries in the Western Hemisphere are countries that recognize and submit to US domination, keeping the doors of their economies open to American monopolies. Countries that would challenge US dominion are undemocratic countries and, in relation to these countries, the United States can and will use its "policeman" function. ”
      http://www.yermak.com.ua/txt/art_monro.html
  3. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 22 September 2015 18: 37 New
    +7
    USA prepared another "gift" for Germany. It's about readiness to place in Germany (at Bunswer’s Büchel Aviation Base) new nuclear weapons

    The USA is ready to place ... They do not want, do not ask, do not offer, but are ready.
    In the territory of another country, sovereign and independent. And at her expense.
    At the expense of German taxpayers. The Germans are against it, but who will ask them?

    Well, by the way, Norway at its own expense acquires and places the 52 of the F-35 aircraft. Convenient "partners" for Americans! We don’t even have to spend money ourselves. And the US military industry is operating at full capacity due to the independent European Union.

    And they are silent in a rag.

    The German Ministry of Defense declines official comments on the possible deployment of new nuclear weapons in Germany.
    1. wanderer987
      wanderer987 22 September 2015 19: 14 New
      +5
      Who told you that Germany is an independent country, since 1945 it was partially under US occupation and in 1991 it was completely occupied after the withdrawal of our GHA.
  4. Abbra
    Abbra 22 September 2015 18: 38 New
    +7
    They won’t calm down, mad dogs. Are they fucking there, from the point of view of common sense?
  5. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 September 2015 18: 39 New
    +4
    The USA is completely overgrown!
    It is also necessary to overlay them around the entire perimeter with nuclear weapons. am
    And the Europeans, - T_U_P_Y_E, for the sake of the monster are ready their brainless bОput shki on the chopping block. fool
    1. asadov
      asadov 22 September 2015 18: 42 New
      +2
      and who asks them what they are ready and what not? As they say, get - sign. And if some kind of "mishandled" refugee gets to them, then this is your mushroom growing, although the Europeans already will not care .....
    2. dsi
      dsi 22 September 2015 18: 51 New
      0
      It is also necessary to overlay them around the entire perimeter with nuclear weapons.

      Tomorrow I’m waiting for you on Red Square, the ammunition will be transmitted vigorously. You decompose them according to your understanding. I'm really looking forward to it.
  6. dsi
    dsi 22 September 2015 18: 40 New
    +2
    The German Ministry of Defense declines official comments on the possible deployment of new nuclear weapons in Germany.

    Pomegranate at the Opera is an argument and significant.
  7. lukke
    lukke 22 September 2015 18: 44 New
    11
    Well, that’s all right, Ukraine wasn’t able to push Ukraine, they will now “sacrifice” Europe. Which of the European countries is the "locomotive" and curator of all these underdeveloped? right Germany! And most importantly, historically verified repeatedly! They will bring nuclear weapons in the smallest permissible volumes (not fatal destruction of Planet Earth), and then they will come up with some kind of naughty seed for a collision, maybe even Middle Eastern refugees will be rescued. Anglo-Saxons, they are so cute!
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  9. yuriy55
    yuriy55 22 September 2015 18: 45 New
    +6
    It's time to go to Cuba! Agree while Raul Castro is in power.
    Today, Raul Castro aims to strengthen socialism in Cuba, protect and strengthen its ideology and implement the ideas of his older brother.

    To help implement Fidel’s ideas so that mattresses aren’t "borzoi" ...
    1. TVM - 75
      TVM - 75 22 September 2015 19: 14 New
      +7
      They themselves provoke a new Caribbean crisis. They think they opened an embassy in Cuba and they won’t bring our missiles? Cunning guys. Europe tied with refugees, Russia Ukrainians and Syria, and themselves in chocolate? It's time for them to smudge this chocolate .....
  10. NDR-791
    NDR-791 22 September 2015 18: 45 New
    +5
    Quote: Abbra
    They won’t calm down, mad dogs. Are they fucking there, from the point of view of common sense?

    In the 2010 year, the Bundestag decided on the final withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Germany. Maybe infa was not complete then? Talked about old designs? Or is sweet candy being prepared for migrant fighters now? STEAL FROM US, PLEASE !!! And where to go with these bombs, so we will show you the way !!! They know the situation in Europe, the goats, and they pull up the "equipment" to it. I hope that we have not started 90x., And everything is in its place (posts).
  11. Evpatiy.
    Evpatiy. 22 September 2015 18: 46 New
    +4
    The missiles are closer to the Arabs. The Germans can only be congratulated on this. And the refugees are to be placed closer. They’re thinking about nothing but bugger parades.
  12. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 22 September 2015 18: 48 New
    +4
    And did these people blather about the Iskander !? He asks directly for the face of a nuclear club. Regular show-off, sees an eye and a numb tooth.
  13. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 22 September 2015 18: 48 New
    10
    One of the last arguments of the Americans in the hope that Russia will at least give way. A kind of bullying.
    That's just the opinion of those who really fall under the gun of our missiles, no one asks winked And who will be the lackeys to ask ??? lol
    II, das ist fiction ... Just moan at the same time, gentlemen Germans and other "Eurapeans" - they stupidly have you wink laughing
    And I will give advice to normal people - do not believe the Europeans when they talk about some freedoms and the decisions they make ... Slaves cannot be free lol
    Personally, my opinion hi
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 22 September 2015 19: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      A kind of bullying.

      It’s scary, in any case they probably think so, well, in the age of rockets with a bomb))), including the Germans, Mrs. Merkol’s nuclear mine under the ass, that he’ll fly from below, that he’ll fly from above, hell, the Germans think that for them protection))) yeah from Yars, they won’t even have time to suspend.
      Quote: Rurikovich
      One of the last arguments of the Americans

      I think not, there is an overabundance of violent idiocy in the oddballs there.
  14. mamont5
    mamont5 22 September 2015 18: 54 New
    -1
    Quote: sanja.grw
    The Americans decided to make a nuclear test site from Europe

    Yeah. And the initial goal for our missiles is to have less left.
  15. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 22 September 2015 18: 55 New
    +1
    The most annoying thing is that protection from such bombs has not yet been invented. You can bring down 95% of the entire enemy aircraft, but just slip through one and the consequences are catastrophic. And any modern maize will bring such a charge and dump it on a peaceful city.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 22 September 2015 19: 06 New
      0
      For this, there are S-300, S-400 with their interception ranges from 200 to 300 km wink
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 22 September 2015 20: 46 New
        -1
        So far, we are armed with anti-aircraft missiles with a firing range of 200 kilometers, not more than that of the C 300, that of the C 400.
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 22 September 2015 21: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          So far, we are armed with anti-aircraft missiles with a firing range 200 kilometer, no more that C 300, that C 400.

          The complex will be able to range to 400 km hit aerodynamic targets and up to 60 km [2] - tactical ballistic targets flying at a speed of up to 4,8 km / s [3]: cruise missiles, tactical and strategic aviation aircraft, ballistic missile warheads. The early detection radar provides a detection range of 600km. Missiles can hit low-flying targets at a height of 5 m [4] (for comparison: the American Patriot complex is capable of hitting targets only at a height of at least 60 m).

          Wiki to the rescue.
  16. KRIG55
    KRIG55 22 September 2015 19: 02 New
    +2
    It’s time, it’s time to send our products to Cuba, it may get a little cold, otherwise it’s painfully inflamed from impunity.
  17. unsinkable
    unsinkable 22 September 2015 19: 04 New
    +1
    As always, other people's lives are pledged and, in the event of a nuclear disaster in Europe, sit overseas.
  18. wanderer987
    wanderer987 22 September 2015 19: 09 New
    +2
    Germany is like a concubine in Obama’s harem as she wants and has it, and Angelica Merkel only pleases him without breaking with the “dignity of the old prostitute,” in a word, the occupiers are the occupiers that they want to do and that’s for sure, against whom to introduce sanctions are so against the US. The Pentagon and NATO that was going to fight off terrorists from the Middle East with nuclear weapons ??? so this is complete nonsense and they know it and that the most interesting thing is that they sincerely believe !!! We are waiting for an answer about the situation from the UN ... or we are not waiting for the question !!!
  19. Mercenary
    Mercenary 22 September 2015 19: 11 New
    +4
    It's time to repeat 1962. Caribbean crisis, then the CCCP removed nuclear weapons from Cuba and the United States removed its nuclear weapons from Turkey. Then they believed the "gentleman's" word, without paperwork. And before the year 91, there were no nuclear weapons in Turkey, and now they are insolent insolent ..... Indeed, if there is not a single EXCLUSIVE moron left on planet Earth.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 22 September 2015 19: 25 New
      +3
      Then the USSR was respected and feared ... And now, over the 20 years of "leadership" on the planet, they believe that they can do anything .. Not everything, unless Russia gives up. Medvedev chased and sentenced Libya, this further strengthened the West in helplessness. And now they began to rise and I really hope that the GDP knows what it is doing soldier All the same, self-esteem has not been canceled hi
    2. opus
      opus 24 September 2015 00: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      and the United States has its own nuclear weapons from Turkey.

      rockets !!! RSD and all 15 pieces
      near Izmir, 15 medium-range missiles PGM-19 Jupiter with a range of 2400 km

      / ... what did you learn at school? /

      And it was, is and will probably be for a long time:


      on air bases Balikesir, Topel, Myrted, Incirlik, Eskisehir, Zrhach, Erzurum and Chakmakli districtUS nuclear weapons depots and storage facilities were deployed, intended for ensuring the activities of combat aircraft of the US Air Force, the Turkish Armed Forces and the armed forces of other NATO countries. They are maintained and protected. American personnel (special units of the TUSLOG group). According to the foreign press, in Turkeytreasures stored over 500 nuclear warheads.

      they are stored on these batteries, and can be used from any of these (NATO standard since the 60 of the XX century):
  20. hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 22 September 2015 19: 16 New
    +6
    Why are we lost? Offer Venezuela, Vietnam or Cuba to place their nuclear bombs. After all, Americans have always understood the symmetrical answers.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 22 September 2015 19: 28 New
      +3
      They are now peeling off almost every Putin’s squint ... You can just send a container ship to Cuba and let it leak like that who knows that it might be in some container lol repeatAnd for greater reliability, give protection in the form of some BOD or frigate. And the peasants will practice on long trips, and we will destroy the situation. And there let them think whether it is worth again placing nuclear weapons in Europe hi
      Personally, my opinion smile
  21. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 22 September 2015 19: 23 New
    0
    To what extent you need to love money and hate everything that prevents them from stealing. They even have their own life retraction, not to mention other nations !!!
  22. sv68
    sv68 22 September 2015 19: 23 New
    -2
    but whether a couple of three of these bombs will make it as if unbecoming on the territory of the outskirts with all the ensuing consequences ???
  23. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 22 September 2015 19: 25 New
    0
    And the German government will obediently allow Germany to be turned into a target for the Topol, Yars and other plants.
    The German is no longer a cake ...
  24. Michael - 235
    Michael - 235 22 September 2015 19: 58 New
    +2
    The German television channel ZDF has already realized that all of Germany has become a hostage as a result of the mediocre policies pursued by the current German leadership, which by its actions makes the entire German population a real target for possible destruction, while US politicians hope that their territory will remain untouched.
  25. Old26
    Old26 22 September 2015 20: 10 New
    +5
    Quote: KRIG55
    It’s time, it’s time to send our products to Cuba, it may get a little cold, otherwise it’s painfully inflamed from impunity.

    My first boss used to say this: Do you want to know what your counterpart (opponent, opponent) will do - put yourself in his place ...
    Wise thought. That would be for those who offer to place in Cuba our "products" at least think about it. And what will the enemy do? And instead of the 200 bombs in Europe that are now, he will deploy, for example, 200 short- and medium-range missiles in Europe. Or do you think that if we deploy our missiles in Cuba, the United States will continue to comply with the INF Treaty ???
    And offering to place our products in Cuba ... Can an immodest question? And what products are you going to place there? Iskanders? Which maximum that they can do, cover the southern part of Florida with its beaches and hotels ??? Or are you going to send strategists there? Damn, but before you offer something, it’s worthwhile to include at least the brain, for a change ...

    Quote: Mercenary
    It's time to repeat 1962. Caribbean crisis, then the CCCP removed nuclear weapons from Cuba and the United States removed its nuclear weapons from Turkey. Then they believed the "gentleman's" word, without paperwork. And before the year 91, there were no nuclear weapons in Turkey, and now they are insolent insolent ..... Indeed, if there is not a single EXCLUSIVE moron left on planet Earth.

    Atomic bombs have never been removed anywhere, including and from the territory of Turkey. They were there, and after the rockets were removed from Turkey ...

    Quote: Rurikovich
    You can simply send the container ship to Cuba and let it leak like that who knows that it might be in some container. For greater reliability, give protection in the form of some BOD or frigate

    And the Americans, such d. Beats, that they will not track what and what, will not be interested in where this container ship was loaded, under what conditions, they will not monitor the unloading. Do not consider the enemy worse than yourself, it is fraught ...

    Quote: Rurikovich
    and we’ll clear the situation. And there let them think whether it is worth again placing nuclear weapons in Europe

    We will not ruin the situation. And no one will resolve. Especially Putin. American weapons are both de facto and de jure in the territory of NATO countries, just as the similar nuclear weapons of the USSR were in the territory of the ATS. One ammunition is being replaced by another. 20 bombs of the previous modification will be replaced by 20 bombs of the modification "12". Which, by the way, has not yet passed the entire test cycle and its placement - this is not a matter of today, or even tomorrow. That's all. The media will, of course, drool and snot, both ours and them, and as a result, it will remain
    1. aleks700
      aleks700 22 September 2015 20: 31 New
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      I wish those who offer to place our “products” in Cuba at least think about it. And what will the enemy do? And instead of the 200 bombs in Europe that are now, he will deploy, for example, 200 short- or medium-range missiles in Europe. Or do you think that if we deploy our missiles in Cuba, the United States will continue to comply with the INF Treaty ???

      First, you could haggle.
      Secondly, Putin is not even Khrushchev. Definitely not scratched.
  26. sledge
    sledge 22 September 2015 20: 29 New
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    This is a peculiar act of intimidation of Russia? completely fucked Americans
  27. VladimS
    VladimS 22 September 2015 21: 04 New
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    And the Americans, such d. Beats, that they will not track what and what, will not be interested in where this container ship was loaded, under what conditions, they will not monitor the unloading. Do not consider the enemy worse than yourself, it is fraught ...

    The fact of the matter is when ours only hinted at the restoration of special trains with their "containers" in a new modification, which are now very difficult to track among the "twins" of civil transport ... Missiles have become smaller and lighter. From that, the load on the axis of the wagon trolley incomparably decreased to
    usual, they began to literally howl in the media about bad Russia. So it’s quite real, but it’s better from the territory of Russia. In Cuba, the open spaces are not those, not at all ...
  28. sabakina
    sabakina 22 September 2015 21: 47 New
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    The third time I go to this topic, and I can’t understand who will let them drop freely falling bombs? Even if they plan to hell knows how many km ...
  29. Starik72
    Starik72 22 September 2015 22: 09 New
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    The United States makes convulsive movements such as being badly wounded in agony before death. They are well aware and fear to death that, as a sign of retaliation, Russia may plant dozens of “Topolis” as a sign of respect in Yelluston Park, and the United States will immediately come "little fox". The USA wants to do everything with the wrong hands, but the wisdom of the people says: ON ANOTHER X, WE WILL NOT LEAVE TO PARADISE !!!
  30. Erg
    Erg 22 September 2015 22: 22 New
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    The situation is bad. States first pump Europe Islamites, and then throw modern nuclei into this boiler. Say, use it - it’s not a pity for the safety of “friends”. It seems to me that Russia's response to deploy our nuclear weapons in new regions will play into the hands of "world rulers." They should not sacrifice the whole world, or perhaps the states, as a sacrifice to their ambitions. A normal person will not be able to understand what is on the mind of these adherents of incest. Here we need more subtle moves. Let's see ...
  31. IAlex
    IAlex 22 September 2015 22: 24 New
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    As soon as the NATO infrastructure is prepared, the depots and warheads are tightened + a missile defense system is deployed, they will strike and this will happen within 3 years unless the Russian Federation falls apart ...
  32. Coconut
    Coconut 22 September 2015 22: 31 New
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    as far as I know, ammunition B61-12 is installed on airplanes ... and now the question is how many planes will reach the target?) if they have time to take off at all) mattresses make a target from Europe ..
  33. sieras
    sieras 22 September 2015 23: 06 New
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    concern again.
    to say that they would burn the country with hydrogen bombs in the event of any hint of the use of these bombs.
    nihai people know where their corrupt politicians lead.
  34. Old26
    Old26 23 September 2015 00: 37 New
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    Quote: aleks700
    First, you could haggle.

    How to bargain? The lives of our people ????????????
    Damn, is it really so difficult to understand that Americans will take adequate measures on any of our similar fortels? Complicated?
    Well, we’ll place the Iskanders there, Americans don’t give a damn, they know very well that not one of their military bases, not a single serious industrial hub will be hit by the Iskanders. Only US citizens and tourists will be at gunpoint. As a result, we give the Americans at least TWO TRIMS, which they did not even dream of in their wildest fantasies:

    FIRST TRIP.
    They don’t even have to do anything to prove the thesis about the evil and treacherous Russians who are ready to kill millions of Americans who are on vacation.

    SECOND TRUMP
    If now, in order to withdraw from the contract they need to inform us within 6 months, then in the case of our fortress they DO NOT withdraw from the contract, as expected, but break it with the corresponding wording on the threat to national security

    And then everything is simple. Within a very short time, they begin to deploy medium-range missiles in the European theater of operations. And we get them not like in the 80s, in Germany, England and Italy, but on the border of Estonia and Russia. A range of 1200-2000 km is enough to cover bases and command posts in the European part of Russia. And then, when they will have half or a hundred such missiles on our borders, and we’ve got a zilch, because - then they will be able to bargain with us about removing their missiles. And what will they demand for it - HZ. And the Domocles sword will no longer be over the heads of the Americans in Florida, but over the heads of our compatriots in Russia. Do you want to achieve this adventure with the new deployment of missiles in Cuba? Well, the fact that they will also roll Cuba under the nut is no doubt. Cuba in the early 60s and Cuba in the middle of the second decade of the 21st century are two big differences ...

    Quote: Sanya
    This is a peculiar act of intimidation of Russia? completely fucked Americans

    Is replacing the Points with Iskanders an act of intimidation of Europe or the usual modernization of missile formations of the ground forces? Why is the replacement of some ammunition with others in some completely normal situation, while for others we consider this an act of intimidation ??

    Quote: VladimS
    The fact of the matter is when ours only hinted at the restoration of special trains with their "containers" in a new modification, which are now very difficult to track among the "twins" of civil transport ... Missiles have become smaller and lighter. From that, the load on the axle of the wagon trolley was incomparably lower than usual, they began literally howling in the media about bad Russia.

    So what, that ours stuttered? What's next. We say trains will be easier. Yes, the rocket will be lighter. What is the configuration of trains? Do not forget that in the 80s, satellite intelligence tools were one, now completely different. Now there is something that was not in the 80s. And if the composition will be approximately the same configuration as before - to track it by such a unmasking sign will now spit

    Quote: Coco
    as far as I know, ammunition B61-12 is installed on airplanes ... and now the question is how many airplanes will reach the target

    And how many of our planes with nuclear bombs will reach their targets in Europe after an exchange of strategic weapon strikes?
  35. Tktyfern
    Tktyfern 23 September 2015 03: 21 New
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    ........ The German Ministry of Defense declines official comments on the possible deployment of new US nuclear weapons in Germany ........

    Silently swallowed another decision of their owners. Germany has become a puppet of the United States. See the State Department has a lot of blanks for Germany, which do not give her even a squeak. Here is one of them - Volkswagen lost a third of its capitalization in 2 days. The entire automotive industry in Germany faces serious losses. It's only the beginning. The fate of everyone who is sold and lies under someone unenviable.
  36. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 23 September 2015 03: 46 New
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    The German Defense Ministry is refusing official comments on the possible deployment of a new US nuclear weapon in Germany.

    That's right, to say something and not what ... "You are your own enemy, Pinocchio! You are your own enemy! .."
  37. Wolka
    Wolka 23 September 2015 05: 32 New
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    This is a dangerous provocation of the Yankees to Europe on the verge of a foul ...
  38. Olegater
    Olegater 24 September 2015 01: 24 New
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    recently read an article Massive transfer of military equipment throughout America. A serious move scares the Americans and now that too. Not casual these actions "We are on the eve of a grandiose schukher !!!!!".