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Tests: The Tor system in the movement hit an air target

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The Almaz-Antey Concern conducted test fires from the 9A331MW combat vehicle from the Tor-M2U short-range air defense system in motion, it reports TASS message of the press service of the enterprise.




“The tests carried out confirmed the possibility of firing the complex in motion. This gives an important tactical advantage, which allows accompanying military columns of the Thor air defense system in movement to repel enemy air raids. So far, the shelling of targets was carried out only from a short stop ",
cites the press service of the words of General Designer Pavel Sozinov.

It is reported that "the tests were held at the Kapustin Yar test site in the Astrakhan region." Moving at a speed of more than 25 km / h on an unequipped road, the air defense system took on auto tracking and hit the simulator of the Saman air target, which was located at a distance of more than 8 km.

"As part of the test when the combat vehicle moves along the highway, the possibility of detecting and taking a target for auto tracking in motion, quality and accuracy of tracking of targets in motion, the impactless release of a rocket from a container, and a number of other parameters are also verified and confirmed"- said the general director of the company Yan Novikov.
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press service of the concern Almaz-Antey Air Defense
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  1. Darkmor
    Darkmor 22 September 2015 17: 50 New
    +8
    But this is awesome. Thor could not do such things before, because of which, in order to protect the columns on the march, it was necessary to duplicate the air defense systems with other machines (for example, "shell")
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    2. dr.Bo
      dr.Bo 22 September 2015 17: 58 New
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      Thanks to the defense industry! "Sleep" is much calmer than at the beginning of the zero!
      (when several years were left before the DISAPPEARANCE.)
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 September 2015 18: 02 New
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        Quote: dr.Bo
        "Sleep" is much calmer than at the beginning of the zero!

        In the late 90s, the campaign did not sleep at all? wink
        1. War and Peace
          War and Peace 22 September 2015 18: 09 New
          +1
          I’m singing for the night, so I see the OBXSS all night
          -Don't you sleep ... laughing
          1. Ladoga
            Ladoga 23 September 2015 00: 09 New
            +2
            Is there really so much stuck that still OBHSS dream?
    3. opus
      opus 22 September 2015 21: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: Darkmor
      other machines (for example, "shell")

      The shell is generally not for "shooting in motion"

      universal anti-aircraft missile and artillery system, designed to cover at close range strategic important military and industrial facilities.
      "Program for the development of a unified anti-aircraft missile weapons (weapons) system" within the framework of the ROC "ZPRK", "Shell-S1", "Shell-SM", "Redoubt" and "Gladiator".

      but the fact that on the chassis 8x8 "Ural-5323.4" or "Kamaz" is the wish of the UAE

      The purpose of using a car chassis is the cost of the complex, which should cover the rear facilities, rather than troops in battle formations.






      wherever you see "in motion"

      in the "Assessment of the characteristics of the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system" at one of the open scientific and technical conferences of the Ministry of Defense of Russia and the Russian Academy of Missile and Artillery Sciences. The authors of the report are VV Belotserkovsky, Ph.D. (Military Sciences), Associate Professor (Air Force Air Force) and I. A. Razin (VA Air Defense Forces Armed Forces), so neither "gu-gu"

      Although the developer declared "opportunity firing on the move and from short stops ";
  2. Hubun
    Hubun 22 September 2015 17: 50 New
    +4
    somewhere in the Kaliningrad region, exercises would be conducted so that the NATO and the Estonians would not be bored to drag the Air Force
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 22 September 2015 18: 24 New
      +2
      Yes, the A-10s just appeared there. An interesting target for training. (Hit the A-10 descent) smile
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      2. gjv
        gjv 22 September 2015 19: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: TOR2
        hit immediately A-10

        SAM took on auto tracking and hit a simulator of the air target "Saman",

        A-10 in cruise mode is somewhat slower than the Samana. How will this affect the likelihood of defeat (in + or in -)?
        1. TOR2
          TOR2 22 September 2015 21: 14 New
          +1
          "Saman" flew high, this one will try to snuggle up to the ground.
          1. Tarh and Tara
            Tarh and Tara 22 September 2015 22: 48 New
            0
            I think it will get on the bottoms. The main goal is to “capture”.
  3. dsi
    dsi 22 September 2015 17: 51 New
    0
    General Designer Pavel Sozinov.

    Prepare a tunic for the order! For the "Russian weapon" is you!
  4. boozer
    boozer 22 September 2015 17: 51 New
    0
    Very significant! Well done! Thanks to the engineers and specialists!
  5. Tusv
    Tusv 22 September 2015 17: 52 New
    +4
    The news reminded a joke about a peaceful Soviet tractor
    1. svp67
      svp67 22 September 2015 17: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Tusv
      The news reminded a joke about a peaceful Soviet tractor

      The main thing is that reality would not go in the spirit of that joke ... and it would not be necessary to produce "seeders and winders" on the fields of border farms
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 22 September 2015 18: 03 New
        0
        The main thing is that TOR is a very successful device with anti-stop coating
    2. Themi30
      Themi30 22 September 2015 18: 03 New
      -4
      Well, here the heading is more anecdotal, because it is absolutely clear from the heading that there was an air target in motion, so I went to ask how long since the defeat of a moving air object was an achievement, well, at least the article clearly says.
      1. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 22 September 2015 20: 40 New
        0
        Quote: TheMi30
        Well, here the heading is more anecdotal, because it is absolutely clear from the heading that there was an air target in motion, so I went to ask how long since the defeat of a moving air object was an achievement, well, at least the article clearly says.

        Just like that, it is customary to define one of the latest technical trends of mobile "SAM" at the present time.
      2. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 22 September 2015 22: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: TheMi30
        Well, here the heading is more anecdotal, because it is absolutely clear from the heading that there was an air target in motion, so I went to ask how long since the defeat of a moving air object was an achievement, well, at least the article clearly says.
        - You obviously have problems with the Russian language! Nothing happens! laughing
        1. Themi30
          Themi30 29 October 2015 10: 47 New
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          I have no problems, the title has been fixed.
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  6. marshes
    marshes 22 September 2015 17: 57 New
    -2
    A good complex, still at a speed of 40-60 km / h would have "worked" in general the class would have been.
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    2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 22 September 2015 18: 04 New
      0
      The rocket takes off upwards, it still will not give additional speed. Why drive 60 km / h across the field. This is not a Christmas tree in Robin.
      1. marshes
        marshes 22 September 2015 18: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        The rocket takes off upwards, it still will not give additional speed. Why drive 60 km / h across the field. This is not a Christmas tree in Robin.

        During the march. Maybe instead of a gusli wheel.
    3. opus
      opus 23 September 2015 22: 15 New
      0
      Quote: marshes
      Nice complex, still at a speed of 40-60 km / h

      belay
      .
      And make the radars of the complex work out according to the "method of 3x points" at 40-60km / h?
      Or how ?
      by eye "with a lead"
      And the battle crew will not clap their teeth at 40-60km / h? (Tea is not MKAD)
  7. ZU-23
    ZU-23 22 September 2015 18: 01 New
    0
    Well done designers, proud of them
  8. Vyatich
    Vyatich 22 September 2015 18: 12 New
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    And we did the very first “products” for “Tor” (9m 330), which I am proud of!
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 22 September 2015 21: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Vyatich
      And we did the very first “products” for “Tor” (9m 330), which I am proud of!


      My respect and bow to you for that. I hope you will not remain without work (in 3 shifts, not for free, of course).
    2. opus
      opus 23 September 2015 00: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Vyatich
      And we did the very first “products” for “Thor” (9m 330)

      I have long wanted to ask:

      Here is the bar (circled in red) what is it?
      ===============
      Why did they remove (in the photo) the jumper and spring m-lock of the rudders?
      not supposed to be.
  9. yuriy55
    yuriy55 22 September 2015 18: 38 New
    +1
    Yes! So far - in the movement of eight kilometers. Wait, they will soon teach you to shoot in a jump, a fly swatter and then all the "buzzing" scribes will not come where they need to ... lol
  10. Captain nemo
    Captain nemo 22 September 2015 18: 56 New
    0
    Hmm, for some reason I always thought that for launching a rocket with a vertical launch, the car is either violet in motion or stands still.
    In my Shilka constructively was laid the firing of cannons at aviation, somewhere at 5-10km / h, the superfood "Pantsyryu" is no longer possible.
    1. Fafnir
      Fafnir 22 September 2015 20: 57 New
      0
      You do not take into account the buildup of the container in motion. The shell from the barrel is not going anywhere, but if the rocket hooks the walls when exiting .... negative
      1. opus
        opus 22 September 2015 23: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Fafnir
        but if the rocket hooks the walls at the exit.

        "Poor gods" SAM, and RCC and KR sea ​​based ...
        They are about to “hook” on the walls of the TPK or the launch cup and are not suspected. DURING JUMPING (limitations of 6-7 points). They start up and produce.



        There you can’t bring a spoon to your mouth
        1. Fafnir
          Fafnir 23 September 2015 13: 52 New
          0
          What does the sea based? In the sea, a large amplitude of "vibration" at a low frequency and the rocket manages to get out of the TPK quite well, and on land, on the contrary, the amplitude is much smaller and the frequency is higher and naturally special measures had to be taken for the rocket to exit without hindrance. Plus, as you have indicated below, problems with "radar prancing around potholes" wink .
          1. opus
            opus 23 September 2015 17: 36 New
            0
            Quote: Fafnir
            What does the sea based?

            and there (on land) and there (at sea) PU "pumps".
            Quote: Fafnir
            At sea, a large amplitude of "vibration" at a low frequency and the rocket manages to get out of the TPK

            1.Well, come on. and the numbers are "in amplitude" and "frequency"? Pallograph data?
            during the interaction of the wave and the ship there is a resonance zone, there is a swell, the roll can roll to such values ​​that the vehicle with its 10-15% does not dream

            2. PU on the chassis of the vehicle still have such lotions as shock absorbers, and it does not move like a tank through swamps

            3. Large amplitude, large lateral accelerations in the TPK or on the PU

            Quote: Fafnir
            and naturally, special measures had to be taken for the unhindered exit of the rocket.


            they are already accepted.
            guides (or steam cocoon), ejection device, discharged shoes, etc.
            In general, the rocket will never catch on the walls if the launcher does not move as it should not (like bugs).
            Yes, and do not shoot on the go. fairy tales are

            Quote: Fafnir
            with a radar galloping pothole

            This is a slightly different issue with guidance methods.
    2. opus
      opus 22 September 2015 23: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Captain Nemo
      that to launch a rocket with a vertical launch, the car is violet in motion or it stands still.

      and with an inclined start, the same is not very red.
      SAM "Volna" on the TFR project 01090

      SAM M-11 "Storm"

      well and so on.
      Do you think the ship anchors during launch?
      And the interception of the CC is carried out in absolute calm?

      Start is possible ... but the defeat of the target .. mmm. Especially by the three-point guidance method (Shell). Yes and by the method of “half straightening” the current angles of sight of the rocket and the target (azimuth and elevation angle) ... from the "jumping" along the potholes of the radar?
      Better with a short stop(where to chase that?)
  11. Vyatich
    Vyatich 22 September 2015 23: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Polite Moose
    Quote: Vyatich
    And we did the very first “products” for “Tor” (9m 330), which I am proud of!


    My respect and bow to you for that. I hope you will not remain without work (in 3 shifts, not for free, of course).

    Thank you! True, quite a while ago (1986-1989), now it’s the 9th year in retirement ...