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Ukraine is preparing to implement a new defense order

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Britain’s Defense Minister Michael Fallon announced that “Russia's actions on the territory of Ukraine” were one of the factors destabilizing the situation in the world. At the same time, Fallon believes that Ukraine, with the help of NATO allies, is effectively opposing the “Russian aggression”. The other day, the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak also spoke about “efficiency”. According to Poltorak, the army of Ukraine is being improved, and in the forming defense order there are already items on procurement of the “newest” weapons.




Statement by the Ukrainian Minister leads the portal "Ukrinform":

We are now forming a defense order. It will be fully approved after the adoption of the country's budget for the next year. But we suppose that there will be an increase in financing both on equipment and weapons, in order to surprise both our guys and our enemies. Our guys - because they will work on a slightly different technology - and there will be a lot of such new equipment. And our enemies - because this technique will be of a different generation with different capabilities.


According to Poltorak, who visited the Lviv Armored Plant, another 31 tanks will be put into service with the Armed Forces by the end of the year - to those 62 that the plant has already sent to the troops. Moreover, the quality of the troops tanks appreciate, to put it mildly, without much reverence. The servicemen note that the new tanks enter the troops "raw". And it often happens that instead of new armored vehicles, the hastily repaired and painted equipment with obvious signs of its repeated entry into battle rages into the so-called “ATO” zone.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 22 September 2015 14: 11
    +9
    Ukraine is preparing to implement a new defense order ...


    And the gut will not burst from the exertion .....
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 September 2015 14: 16
      16
      On the front line: Staromikhaylovka. One of the strategic directions at present is the village of Staromikhailovka on the western outskirts of Donetsk. Here, on guard of the village, is the 3rd battalion of the Guards Brigade, which will be discussed in the video. The purpose of the arrival of the owl commander in Staromikhailovka was to record ceasefire violations by the Ukrainian military.



      "What are we fighting for, who are we fighting for ...
      Artem Grishanov's new video dedicated to the children of Novorossiya. "
    2. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 22 September 2015 14: 17
      +8
      Campaign in Schenevmerland psilocybin mushrooms ripened !!!
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    4. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 September 2015 14: 21
      +5
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      the gut will not burst from exertion .....

      Will not burst. Pecina "Leninskaya Kuznya" and "Bogdan" are very sour grandmothers on military orders, almost the entire fleet of light armored vehicles of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is made there.
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 22 September 2015 15: 12
        +2
        And what about raw? They put a mirror in the body - looked at yourself - scared? Or do they "mark" for good luck before the road?
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 September 2015 14: 23
      +7
      Good to joke. They are arriving Amer’s money, which they can’t distribute in their pockets, they just let them in for weapons. Is it good bad, but it shoots. So it gets into someone. And this is not good.
    6. siberalt
      siberalt 22 September 2015 14: 33
      +9
      If the gut bursts, it will remain drunk laughing Why panic?
      1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 22 September 2015 15: 17
        +4
        Facilities in the yard ... in the barnyard. I wonder how to turn on the crane?
        1. Alf
          Alf 22 September 2015 21: 10
          +1
          Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Facilities in the yard ... in the barnyard. I wonder how to turn on the crane?

          Pull sharply by the tail. The main thing is to stand on the side so as not to rake the hoof.
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  2. Hubun
    Hubun 22 September 2015 14: 12
    +8
    burn tridents on the butt of old AK, here you have a new patriotic weapon
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 September 2015 14: 22
      +5
      Quote: Hubun
      burn tridents on the butt of old AK

      Then it is necessary to hammer the star on the receiver with a trident, otherwise it will not be kosher.
  3. ARES623
    ARES623 22 September 2015 14: 13
    +3
    "And it often happens that, instead of new armored vehicles, a hastily repaired and painted technique with clear signs of its repeated getting into a battle gets into the zone of the so-called" ATO "."
    With the previously toasted corpses of the "heroes of the Maidan".
  4. Abbra
    Abbra 22 September 2015 14: 14
    +9
    Yeah .. Both the guys and the enemies will be surprised ...
  5. dsi
    dsi 22 September 2015 14: 15
    +3
    We are now forming a defense order. It will be fully approved after the adoption of the country's budget for the next year. But we suppose that there will be an increase in financing both on equipment and weapons, in order to surprise both our guys and our enemies. Our guys - because they will work on a slightly different technology - and there will be a lot of such new equipment. And our enemies - because this technique will be of a different generation with different capabilities.

    Cool, let's move on to "tin tanks", well, the budget will not pull for more, winter is bad ...
    1. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 22 September 2015 14: 37
      +3
      Do not offend the bucket he will make tanks of chocolate.
      1. dsi
        dsi 22 September 2015 18: 05
        +1
        Chocolate tanks! Yes, even before the first frosts, tankers grab them.
  6. sinukvl
    sinukvl 22 September 2015 14: 16
    14
    "Oh, words, words, words, how dizzy they are!" One gets the impression that the politicians and the military in Kiev, the main thing is not the business, the main word. He said the word himself in his own eyes, he raised his own authority, but deeds ..., deeds are empty, it is necessary to work.
    1. lukewarm
      lukewarm 22 September 2015 16: 10
      15

      They have something in common, right?
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 September 2015 16: 41
        +2
        Quote: unwillingly
        They have something in common, right?

        Externally, there is.
        But, unlike Ukrainian 1,5K, our furniture maker really started rearming the army. At the same time, often twisting the arms of the military-industrial complex: as they wrote on the same bmpd about the cost of aircraft for the Air Force "do not focus on the prices of previous contracts - Serdyukov seized the moment and knocked out such prices for the Su-30 from the plant that there will be no more".
  7. kil 31
    kil 31 22 September 2015 14: 18
    11
    Now let the tanks stamp autumn.
  8. Maksus
    Maksus 22 September 2015 14: 19
    +3
    Well yes, yes yes - carts and checkers will pleasantly surprise and ukrosoldat and their opponents. Anyway.
  9. Tummyr
    Tummyr 22 September 2015 14: 19
    +6
    "to surprise both our guys and our enemies. Our guys - because they will work on a slightly different technique - and there will be a lot of such new equipment. And our enemies - because this technique will be of a different generation with different capabilities."

    100% hints about the tachanka, fits all the parameters of his words, everyone will be surprised, even groan. laughing
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 September 2015 14: 21
    +4
    All these statements can be answered only three times HA-HA-Ha.
  11. Evpatiy.
    Evpatiy. 22 September 2015 14: 21
    +6
    Probably it will be armored bicycles!
  12. HAM
    HAM 22 September 2015 14: 21
    +3
    Usyo, Urkaina's army switched to NATO standards: "buffet" in food, amerovskoe weapons, English humor, -Europe, however. crying-I am envious of ..
  13. Das Boot
    Das Boot 22 September 2015 14: 32
    +2
    Comrades, let's dump VO on another cartoonist, huh?
    this Vitaly stinks Petrosyan.
  14. Appraiser
    Appraiser 22 September 2015 14: 32
    +2
    According to Poltorak, who visited the Lviv Armored Plant, another 31 tanks will be put into service with the Armed Forces by the end of the year - to those 62 that the plant has already sent to the troops.
    I can see something is not catching up! Where did the armored plant in Lviv come from? As far as I remember in Lviv there was No. 28 repair plant for car repair. All tanks in the USSR PrikVO she always sent repairs to Kharkov.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 September 2015 14: 47
      +5
      Quote: Appraiser
      I can see something is not catching up! Where did the armored plant in Lviv come from? As far as I remember in Lviv there was No. 28 repair plant for car repair. All tanks in the USSR PrikVO she always sent repairs to Kharkov.

      This is the former 17 BTRZ.
      It was from his workshops that there was a famous photo dated 07.08.2015/XNUMX/XNUMX, signed as
      State Enterprise "Lviv Armored Plant" in 2015 fully restored more than 100 pieces of equipment for the needs of the Ukrainian armed forces. By the end of the year, the plant plans to complete overhaul of about 70 more vehicles.

      At the same time, the photo shows the repaired T-55 (the characteristic shape of the tower + ejector at the end of the barrel) and "frying pans" from the BMP-1.

      And also famous photos of the manufacturing workshop "Shame b", at the sight of which any auto repair shop can feel like an auto giant. smile
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 22 September 2015 15: 19
        +1
        Quote: Alexey RA
        And also the famous photos of the "Shame-B" manufacturing workshop, at the sight of which any auto repair shop can feel like an auto giant.

        bully And where do they produce the super-super-megatanks "Obloty"? Is there infa? I was told in secret that this tank beats all types of tanks existing on the planet recourse
  15. tor978
    tor978 22 September 2015 14: 34
    +6
    How can these Europeans not understand that Russia is not at war with Ukraine. If there was a war, then it would have immediately ended. And all these statements about the war with the Russian Federation are just fairy tales for Euro-trade, and American from time immemorial considers Russia an aggressor and they can’t convince them of this.
  16. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 22 September 2015 14: 35
    10
    Ukraine was pretty shitty to Russia by simply outrageous dumping, especially in the sector of "regular buyers" of Soviet weapons - selling off the stocks of equipment inherited from the USSR at bargain prices. Historically, a huge amount of weapons was stored on the territory of the Ukrainian SSR. This is the reserve of the first wave for the Western Group of Forces, this is the Kiev Military District, these are the reserve warehouses where everything removed from service was sent, but not sent for melting. And of course, warehouses for humanitarian aid to various cannibals "fighting capitalism." At the time of the collapse of the USSR, these warehouses in total had almost half of all aviation, tank forces and artillery of the Union. Something was saved and taken away (part of the "new" property taken out a little earlier by the ZGV). Something was promptly transferred to the Russian bases in Crimea. But the bulk remained to be plundered by the Raguli.
    All that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex is now capable of is the overhaul of tanks from storage, plus a partial modernization of unnecessary armored vehicles supplied by NATO. All're coming out "handicrafts on the knee" in real life turn out to be useless rubbish, unable to overcome even elementary obstacles, such as this armored car "KrAZ Cougar" (Cougar), which was so honored by PARAShenko

    As they say feel the difference:


    The same applies to the production of tanks in Kharkov, where there are neither people nor equipment. They did not cope with the Thai contract, despite the impressive advance. Let neither themselves nor the people deceive. Tank replenishment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the future - exclusively scrapped from the rust scrap metal from the warehouses, plus junk from the master's shoulder from the "brotherly peoples".
    HZTM did not pay wages for last year. The adjacent companies are closed by dozens of enterprises due to a multiple increase in the price of gas and electricity.
    Explosives for KAZ were produced in Donetsk, gunpowder and explosives for warhead artillery were produced in the Luhansk region, and optics were made in the Crimea, FOMZ.
    Now're coming out, the military-industrial complex will finally fill up the Thai contract, from September 1, 2011, i.e. from the moment of its signing, only 10 cars have been delivered and that's it, adieu ... Only the lazy did not write about the "majestic peremogu" with the delivery of the BTR-4 to Iraq. True, the ukroids themselves, including on the site foaming at the mouth, argued that the reversal was close and these were just empty slander of Russian competitors, and the photos of the cracks on the armor were photoshop, but time put everything in its place. When testing the captured BTR-4 in Arzamas and Bronnitsy, only the lazy one did not spit and did not swear from this pepelatsa, I will not say anything about the quality of the armor, not only is it cracked, it also crumbles.
    So it remains only for small things to crap out from under the tishka, because they are not capable of anything else: you don’t understand how to grow your hands from that place ...
    Ukraine has not died yet, but it has already given the smell ...
  17. Bradypodidae
    Bradypodidae 22 September 2015 14: 36
    +6
    This whole ATO company is for stealing money on an unimaginable scale. I will give an example. One firm won the competition for the supply of troops in the ATO. In addition to the carrier, there is an escort in the car, and he even has a gun, though a hunting one, well, nothing, it is all the same to the combat zone don't call in, so hunting, it's kind of overkill. So this hanurik has a salary of 9000 hryvnia. This is despite the fact that you can find a hell of a job for 2000 hry. "is leaving for Kiev?
    And with the defense order the same story. For all landfills they collect rotten scrap metal, they somehow rivet it together at the remnants, and everything runs like paper for papers. The price difference is the Swiss account. And this fucking ATO will last while it is the ability to steal money under this business.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 22 September 2015 14: 57
      +4
      It’s sad, of course, but you are talking about money. Ukrainians do not remember about people in the Donbass. The amazing nation of mankurts. Jumping with joy that there is no water in the Crimea, but crying because hot water was turned off. pIPezzst.
  18. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 22 September 2015 14: 42
    +1
    I.A. Krylov
    TIT

    A tit on the sea set off;
    She boasted
    That the sea wants to burn.
    It immediately became famous around the world speech.
    Fear embraced the inhabitants of the Neptune capital;
    Birds fly in herds;
    And the animals from the forests come running to watch,
    How will the Ocean, and is it hot to burn.
    And even, they say, at the hearing of rumored winged rumors,
    10 Hunters Carry On Feasts
    From the first with spoons came to the shores,
    To choke the ears so rich
    Some de farmer and the most beautiful
    Do not give secretaries.
    Crowd: everyone miraculously wonders in advance,
    It is silent and, staring at the sea, waiting;
    Only occasionally another whispers:
    “Here it boils, then it immediately lights up!”
    Not here: the sea is not burning.
    30 Does it boil at least? - and does not boil.
    And how did the grandeur's ventures end?
    Tit with shame in its own way sailed away;
    Made the Tit of Glory
    But the sea did not light.
    _______________________

    To speak here is good,
    But without touching anyone's face:
    What’s the matter, not bringing an end,
    No need to boast.
  19. sl22277
    sl22277 22 September 2015 14: 44
    +2
    A country with a beggarly budget, a crumbling economy, and huge debts. What latest weapons can be discussed against this background. Apparently another income item for those in power! At the moment, the country needs leadership with other brains, with different priorities, and not a technique of another generation with different capabilities.
  20. tyras85
    tyras85 22 September 2015 14: 45
    +2
    With what and whose money will this "happen"?
  21. Prisoner
    Prisoner 22 September 2015 14: 45
    0
    The quality of tanks among Ukrainians and the Union did not go very well. I don’t really believe that today it’s better.
  22. Reinhard
    Reinhard 22 September 2015 14: 46
    +2
    Yes, all this nonsense! It's disgusting to watch and listen to news from Ukraine! A menagerie of some kind!
  23. kostya-petrov
    kostya-petrov 22 September 2015 14: 50
    +2
    And how many submarines and corvettes will the great marine Derzhava Ukraine build ????
    Their pidvodny choven "Zaporizhzha" is now B-435 again!
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 September 2015 14: 59
    +3
    Cash withdrawal schemes and wallets are ready! Overfulfill the defense order. APU just stunned, having received the latest, INVISIBLE weapons. The enemy will also be defeated. DIES FROM LAUGHTER. laughing
  25. Batia
    Batia 22 September 2015 15: 01
    +2
    "to surprise both our guys and our enemies." that's really what dill manages to amaze with its senile actions.
  26. japs
    japs 22 September 2015 15: 50
    +3
    Poltorak? The weapon of a new generation. This is clearly not weed! These are mushrooms! Fall.
  27. Vlad2010_vlad
    Vlad2010_vlad 22 September 2015 16: 08
    0
    They do not need tanks. There are war pigs.
  28. zombiunian
    zombiunian 22 September 2015 16: 27
    0
    one and a half))) smiled. cesspool is not something that can’t stand it - it’s physiologically impossible for a gay to get pregnant
  29. Lee_Mubai
    Lee_Mubai 22 September 2015 17: 48
    +2
    I want to write a lot about these "neighbors" but I will not, I will only say one thing! Most likely, in five years, maybe more, maybe less, when the last ancient uk stops jumping! they will come to us with outstretched hand, to beg for alms, because by and large they are not needed by anyone but us !!!
  30. SPIKER
    SPIKER 22 September 2015 19: 12
    0
    They themselves, perhaps, will surprise ... but no more !!!
  31. Berthan
    Berthan 22 September 2015 19: 40
    +1
    And where do they produce the super-super-megatanks "Obloty"? Is there infa? I was told in secret that this tank beats all types of tanks existing on the planet


    Yes sho there - "on the planet" ... All over our arm of the galaxy.
  32. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 22 September 2015 20: 14
    0
    Quote: Captain Air Force
    Campaign in Schenevmerland psilocybin mushrooms ripened !!!

    Procurement of new weapons of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
  33. KRIG55
    KRIG55 22 September 2015 20: 15
    0
    So already protected the entire civilized world from Russian aggression, you can calm down.
  34. Michael - 235
    Michael - 235 22 September 2015 20: 35
    0
    In a word, the kingdom of crooked mirrors.
  35. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 22 September 2015 21: 41
    0
    One banter in the comments! The enemy must be taken seriously. Hitler too
    He started in the pubs and nobody took him seriously. However, the trend.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 September 2015 22: 15
      0
      Quote: v.yegorov
      One banter in the comments! The enemy must be taken seriously.

      Yes, much more serious (((
      The beast, it is the beast. They don’t even need tanks, they just drop trucks ...
      The only weapon against them is carpet dispersion of fat
  36. nivander
    nivander 23 September 2015 07: 18
    0
    Shushpanzery on the T-55 platform are already running. And soon the APU will receive a full batch of 20 T-62