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In the US, launched a new phase of testing the robot on the 4-x "legs"

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U.S. company Boston Dynamics proceeded to the next stage of testing the four-legged robot. It is reported that during the tests, specialists should find out how these robots are capable of replacing a “living” soldier in combat conditions. According to representatives of the company itself, the robot during the first stage of testing has already demonstrated its mobility and relatively high speed.


The company, not without pride, reports that they are interested in the new four-legged robot at the Pentagon, DARPA and even at NASA. The press service of the company says that the robot is being tested as a combat unit when landing from the air, as well as from the sea. According to some reports, the mass of the robot, made by technology BigDog ("big dog"), is about 72,6 kg. The autonomy of his work is at least 2,5 hours.

It is known that during the execution of the operation, the robot can transmit data about its condition and state of affairs in the combat zone to the control panel, behind which the operator is located. This allows you to adjust the subsequent actions of the robot and increase their effectiveness.

Video test of robots by Boston Dynamics (the first stage of testing the robot on the 4's "legs" (February of the current year) - from 1: 02) :.

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  1. Decathlon
    Decathlon 22 September 2015 12: 39 New
    -15
    Hollywood Order ?!
    1. vkl-47
      vkl-47 22 September 2015 12: 41 New
      -13
      Divorce suckers for money
      1. andranick
        andranick 22 September 2015 12: 45 New
        +34
        As an option, the development of technology and the future
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        2. Throw
          Throw 22 September 2015 13: 28 New
          +7
          On 9.10, the building block is technically thrown, you need to order a guest worker robot from them laughing

          And this is the prototype of Bigdog wassat
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          2. BIP PS FSB RF
            BIP PS FSB RF 22 September 2015 15: 12 New
            +3
            Having spent years researching and millions of dollars, engineers were finally able to accurately reproduce two drunken people carrying a sofa.
            https://vk.com/wall-35294456_2951183
            look strictly under the imperial march.

            Sorry I can not put all the beauty here without a link recourse
          3. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 23 September 2015 08: 17 New
            +2
            It looks like two men in stockings
            1. Jan Ivanov
              Jan Ivanov 23 September 2015 15: 10 New
              0
              Yeah. Pull. One pushes, the second backs away. )
            2. TsUS-Air Force
              TsUS-Air Force 23 September 2015 20: 31 New
              0
              fag-like geyropa even in military equipment builds his own kind laughing
          4. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 23 September 2015 08: 17 New
            0
            It looks like two men in stockings
      2. Juborg
        Juborg 22 September 2015 14: 48 New
        +13
        This is not a joke, and not a divorce, but a prospect for the future, where a wheel or a caterpillar does not pass a limb will always crawl through. The computer used to seem ridiculous, the first laptops were considered meaningless, and many discoveries were previously considered meaningless and useless, the same TV.
    2. armageddon
      armageddon 22 September 2015 13: 08 New
      +1
      Hmm ... Before creating artificial intelligence, these are just expensive toys ... Installing electronic warfare ... And khan-like products ... !!! But on condition of complete autonomy ... A very dangerous direction can turn out ... As for a potential adversary ... So alas, for all mankind ... !!!
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 22 September 2015 13: 46 New
        0
        Before creating what ?!))))))))))))) Let's do it without imagination)
        1. shuhartred
          shuhartred 22 September 2015 13: 50 New
          -1
          Quote: Makarov
          Before creating what ?!))))))))))))) Let's do it without imagination)

          See the gopher ?????
          1. Makarov
            Makarov 22 September 2015 13: 55 New
            -3
            Creating AI is impossible even theoretically ... what’s the conversation?
            1. Petrix
              Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 05 New
              +5
              Quote: Makarov
              AI creation is impossible even theoretically

              Why robot AI? Poems to write or learn what is good-evil?
              Enough stupid program:
              - go there;
              - shoot at something;
              - come then for a new task.
              Well, and routines for reaction in various situations. It all comes down to choosing a ready-made algorithm of actions.
              The robot does not need to develop new behavioral algorithms. Just with experience operating programmers will improve the software.
              1. Makarov
                Makarov 22 September 2015 16: 41 New
                -1
                "Why does the robot need AI? Poems to write or learn what is good-evil?" - I'm not saying that this is not necessary, I am saying that this is impossible ...

                and about the program ... stupid not stupid, but its reliability should be very high as well as the speed of operation, since the sensors there are likely a lot of darkness .... plus the protection / cooling problem ... it is very interesting to look at its solution. ..
            2. shuhartred
              shuhartred 23 September 2015 11: 09 New
              -1
              Quote: Makarov
              Creating AI is impossible even theoretically ... what’s the conversation?

              Five hundred years ago, people believed that the earth was flat. Five minutes ago you thought that only humans live on earth. Imagine what you find out tomorrow (Men in Black, Agent Kay)
              1. Makarov
                Makarov 23 September 2015 14: 36 New
                -1
                Who knows what in the script for primitive American films they will write? ... Have you at least read professors of both ours and foreign on this topic and try to figure out the topic ...
      2. SlavaS
        SlavaS 22 September 2015 14: 01 New
        0
        Software is not a problem, but the fuel for such a thing is really more problematic, although it can hang additional tanks and takes longer
      3. bashmak
        bashmak 22 September 2015 14: 27 New
        -6
        what installation of electronic warfare? Kalash with a full store and n - dec to these toys.
        1. Petrix
          Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: bashmak
          Kalash with a full store

          Do you even know where to aim for sure? Here they just do not have a head.
          1. theadenter
            theadenter 22 September 2015 17: 56 New
            0
            And I wonder how this thing will move if it shoots one leg, for example.
      4. Shuttle
        Shuttle 22 September 2015 16: 43 New
        +8
        Do not exaggerate the power of electronic warfare. Yes, if telecontrol is used, telemetry, i.e. data transmission at a distance from the object, it is possible to suppress (muffle, pollute to unusable) the communication channel. This electronic warfare to do. But if t.s. “Feelings” and “brains” of such a BigDog transporter can be made autonomous, if the navigation system is built not on the basis of GPS, but on the basis of the Earth’s magnetic field and / or gyrostatic, then this piece of iron will reach the target with a high degree of probability. And with a small degree of probability it will be intercepted. And if you make a lot of them? Keep in mind that Americans as few people in the world can quickly establish mass production of technological and complex things. F-35 does not count. Think of drones. Why what ?! Think about consumer electronics, cars, civil aviation.
        I can imagine very well the picture when some corporal Gonzalez sends such a BigDog with food, medicine and ammunition, or even a minigun on the back to the top of the neighboring hill for the fighters of the Charlie and Bravo platoon, who have not dug in and shoot back sparing ammunition and shells. Because BigDog will secure everything you need. And if he doesn’t, then Gonzalez will send one more, and more, and more. Because if necessary, they will still be sent to Gonzalez. Because in his Texas such crap, just take it easy and grazing cattle unarmored for a long time. Those. their production has been established, and the technologies for their use are familiar to everyone on the side of Gonzalez.
        And it is necessary that we had it. It is necessary that "we also didn’t clean our guns with a brick. And if a war happened, they wouldn’t be able to shoot."
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    4. Alexl
      Alexl 22 September 2015 18: 12 New
      +1
      What Hollywood? Everything was invented in the USSR:

    5. Alexl
      Alexl 22 September 2015 18: 20 New
      0
      Back in the USSR, they came up with such a thing:

  2. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 22 September 2015 12: 42 New
    +6
    An extremely expensive mule, but as a separate branch of development without pilot technology is interesting.
  3. vovanpain
    vovanpain 22 September 2015 12: 44 New
    +6
    Behind this miracle it is also necessary to carry wires.
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 22 September 2015 17: 58 New
      +2
      Comes to work out the technology.
      A more perfect power source is a matter of time.
  4. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 September 2015 12: 44 New
    -1
    Six-winged Seraph not completed, or stump of a spider? laughing
    And if the bases are "cords", then how long will it last without recharging?
  5. Yunik
    Yunik 22 September 2015 12: 45 New
    +3
    A robot is good, but an exoskeleton is better. And where is the information about the goals of creating this robot. To deliver soldiers, so there is an unmanned “ATV” for this.
  6. gozmos
    gozmos 22 September 2015 12: 47 New
    +3
    And dill test the product of the state enterprise "Zhytomyr Armored Plant" of the wild-looking armored car "Gadfly" made on the GAZ-66 chassis)))) if these two products are crossed))))
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 22 September 2015 12: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: gozmos
      And dill test the product of the state enterprise "Zhytomyr Armored Plant" of the wild-looking armored car "Gadfly" made on the GAZ-66 chassis))))

      As a driver, the legless hero of the ATO is used.
    2. sinukvl
      sinukvl 22 September 2015 13: 17 New
      0
      Yeah ... kumaraly dill genius!
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 22 September 2015 18: 35 New
      0
      This is neither a armored car, nor made by anyone. This is just a shishigi frame with welded sheets. I can do that too, in the garage, provided that they do not shoot at him.
  7. afrikanez
    afrikanez 22 September 2015 12: 51 New
    -8
    Amerikosy have seen enough of fantastic fighters laughing They that really think that such crap will fight for them? fool
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 22 September 2015 13: 03 New
      +29
      Quote: afrikanez
      Amerikosy have seen enough of fantastic fighters laughing They that really think that such crap will fight for them? fool

      At one time, people like you laughed at both the Wright brothers and Leonardo da Vinci
      I’ve said it more than once, and I’ll say it again ... the forum has become like a kindergarten ... 90% of empty comments, almost no one was "puzzled", but this device was also tested in the mountains and this garland of wires .. and most of the comments
      A. wires must be dragged.
      B. cut dough
      V. have seen enough of fiction ...
      Life is made up of changes. Only a few successful were successful. Most successful people have tried something completely new, which others even laughed at. “Yes, it will never work!” “This is a strange eccentricity” and the like were to be heard by future successful people.
      The Wright brothers were laughed during their first attempts at flying in the same way as Edison before he invented the light bulb.

      Remember! If you are convinced of your intention or idea to the roots of your hair, then do not let anyone persuade you to abandon the realization of the crazy idea itself just because others laugh at you. Do not do what Philip Rice did.
      When he put his invention - the telephone - at a fair in Frankfurt, Kaiser laughed at him. Rice began to depression, and he suspended further work. A few years later, the phone was sold by Graham Belle.
      Philip Rice never reaped the fruits of his labor because he let others influence himself.

      But exoskeletons came from the world of science fiction .. and now no one is "laughing" aaa cut dough! seen enough fiction!
      drones in the distant "Star Wars" were .. and a movie of what bearded years? ))) only the laser sword is left to do))
      1. Down House
        Down House 22 September 2015 13: 19 New
        -2
        Quote: Scoun
        people like you laughed at both the Wright brothers and Leonardo da Vinci

        I don’t remember something, who especially laughed at them, people really did their job and their achievements were what is called “in person”!
        And here we are discussing the fact that they have probably been sawing this “robot” for 10 years already, and apart from the sawn-off budget, they have nothing, although walking and efficient machines have been around for a long time and here is an example.
        1. andranick
          andranick 22 September 2015 13: 25 New
          +8
          Does this yellow-blocking man know how to walk? Does balance hold? And if it falls, will it rise?
          Quote: Down House
          And here we are discussing the fact that this "robot" has been sawing for about 10 years

          As a result, when a suitable source of energy appears, such a “dog” will take zinc uphill, and dry bulk, and mortars, etc. Robot, not human. The soldier will get tired less, which means that he will be more combat-ready and combat-ready. And this is dofiga what an advantage. So there are advantages of the technology, achievements in robotics are undoubted, the only thing left is the "battery"
          1. Down House
            Down House 22 September 2015 14: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: andranick
            the only thing left is the "battery"

            There are a lot of different batteries now, the same Tesla travels up to 400 km with a mass of 2 tons, so the question here is not in “batteries”, but in the power consumption of the device in the best case
            Quote: andranick
            achievements in robotics are undeniable

            The fact of the matter is that real achievements are "measured" in the repeatability of the experiment, to create a video where the robot works wonders is not difficult, but to bring the success of the experiment to 100 out of 100 (otherwise this robot does not make sense in a combat situation) is completely different !
            Therefore, I write that we must not believe in the “miracle of technology”, but smoke the materiel, I am personally more than sure that this is a banal cut and not everything is smooth there.
            1. andranick
              andranick 22 September 2015 14: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: Down House
              There are many different batteries now.

              So far, the mass-dimensional and mass-capacitive characteristics of the "batteries" do not allow us to speak about the acceptable mobility of such robots. The same Tesla rides on smooth asphalt. Keywords - "rides" and "smooth asphalt."

              Quote: Down House
              bring the success of the experiment to 100 out of 100 (otherwise this robot does not make sense in a combat situation)
              This is possible in systems where everything is clearly defined. For example, the CNC copes with the tasks of moving, measuring and changing tools by 100%. In systems with uncertain / changing conditions, it is impossible to achieve 100% repeatability. Even a person with many years of walking experience can stumble over a pebble on the road or hurt a pedestrian passing by. But this is not important, the main thing is to stand on your feet, and if you fall, stand up.

              The "dog" with a sense of balance is all right. It is noticeable that the equilibrium retention system works as an independent subsystem. I can assume that it is built on neuroprocessors and the “dog” was “taught” to walk. Today it is an undoubted progress.

              And at the moment I agree (with reservations to the conditions of use) with this statement:
              Quote: Evgen2x
              our dear horse, a hard worker, from any village, will give a hundred points ahead - this fantasy of Star Wars))

              1. Down House
                Down House 22 September 2015 15: 14 New
                0
                Quote: andranick
                So far, the mass-dimensional and mass-capacitive characteristics of the "batteries" do not allow us to speak about the acceptable mobility of such robots. The same Tesla rides on smooth asphalt. Keywords - "rides" and "smooth asphalt."

                Well let's count.
                1. The Tesla battery is somewhere around 20-25% of its curb weight, at the maximum possible mileage of 400 km with copecks, or at an approximate speed of 70 km / h (we will take it by default as the most optimal speed) is almost 6 hours of work. And the robot under discussion, as I understand it, has a maximum of 2.5 hours.
                2. Tesla, though rolling, but with a mass of 2 tons. Why do you think that the power consumption of the Tesla motor must be less?
                Quote: andranick
                Today it is an undoubted progress.

                We generally live in an age of progress, so much in the last 20 years of everything new that I definitely don’t see anything surprising and really breakthrough in this robot.
            2. Petrix
              Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 19 New
              +1
              Quote: Down House
              creating a video where the robot works wonders is not difficult

              Especially if there is a ready-made robot and no need to do installation and computer graphics.

              And, probably, the military is unlikely to finance the development based on rollers. Rather, they will conduct full-scale tests. Rollers in the internet is true for the people.
        2. katalonec2014
          katalonec2014 22 September 2015 13: 43 New
          0
          This is a mountain excavator, a useful machine, and this mule has yet to prove its need.
      2. afrikanez
        afrikanez 22 September 2015 13: 23 New
        +2
        You seem to have misunderstood me. I did not laugh at this technical product, but simply tried to convey the idea that replacing a soldier on a battlefield would not be real. Robots are improved and the person along with them so that in terms of ingenuity, ingenuity and cunning, no robot will pass the person.
        1. katalonec2014
          katalonec2014 22 September 2015 17: 04 New
          0
          You are right, I agree.
      3. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 22 September 2015 13: 51 New
        0
        only the laser sword is left to do)) - I'll take a couple !!!
        one - under the driver's seat - brush off the "gopota" if it happens ...
        the second - to the village - to cut firewood ... should be more handy than a chainsaw =)
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 22 September 2015 14: 46 New
        +8
        Quote: Scoun
        almost no one was "puzzled", but this device was tested in the mountains and there was no this garland of wires ..


        It’s also not entirely clear to me why people are joking about this news. Here it is necessary to catch up urgently. After all, all that we have today is the crawler-controlled remote control unit. We won’t have any drives like BigDogs yet. (I haven’t seen any reports of developments). They are testing a device that is almost ready for a series to fight or support infantry in a city or in very rough terrain. Autonomy is very good. If such a crap will be dragged to the front line of the battlefield for 2,5 hours or the wounded can be carried out without involving additional personnel, then this will definitely strengthen any unit. And if you hang a set of light armor on this miracle and attach a mount for small arms, you will get a low-impact sniper, who is not particularly sorry to lose or abandon when retreating. A dozen or so of these armed dogs will be a serious threat to any infantry unit. Especially when they dig out from under the sand in the rear at a signal given remotely. If the control system is autonomous (AI elements), the electronic warfare will be ineffective. However, I hope that when the time comes, we will have something to answer.
        1. quote
          quote 22 September 2015 18: 13 New
          -3
          We started for "health." And then if, if. Answer the question the final functionality, the tasks to be solved. The total weight is impressive, but individually? Is there a sofa with a benzo engine? And what else? He can’t lift it, he cannot take it off (put it down)! By one "decel" there are three more brow in attendants ?? Walk on the stairs. Cool, further? He sat down, etc., Further?
          Yes, allocate the money for this to Russian students, and the mattress will go into "sunset" both in terms of development time and functionality, you just turn on the flashlight what you want and bungle, even with a file, but if on machines, then more money! And if also paint .....! Everything is decided in this case by financing. In the field of research, yes cool, BUT !!!! What is the result? For the future? Well Toda OH! And how many babos have already been eaten? And there is no "EXO" yet This is the final practicality. Two three years and a product, okay ... five years.
          Autonomy is very good. If such a crap will be dragged to the front line of the battlefield for 2,5 hours or the wounded can be carried out without involving additional personnel, this will definitely strengthen any unit
          And how will she get to the battlefield?
          And you don’t have any idea what the wounded man is to be taken out from under the shelling. Especially if the sector is under constant shelling. And your "horse" is a good gunner for the enemy shooter, and so on!
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 22 September 2015 20: 51 New
            +4
            Quote: devis
            Carry a sofa with a petrol engine? What else? He can’t lift it, he cannot take it off (put it down)! By one “decel” there are three more brow in attendants ?? Walk on the stairs. Cool, next?


            Why a sofa? About 100 kg. BC is in your opinion a little? Yes, uphill on gully at the checkpoint. Or in the city on the 5th floor of a dilapidated house. From point "A" to point "B". Without involving 2-4 military. Nafig service is not needed. Unless in the places of basing, check the oil. I loaded it on the hump in the safe zone for him and removed it in the safe zone. Or gasoline splashed into the tank. If there is even light armor, this TV-ar does not respond to shelling from small arms. No, well, no bazaar, he will not be able to provide intimate services (for now) at this stage. And with the supply and the wounded to cope completely.
            I have never taken the wounded out of the shelling, and I hope I won’t have to, but tell me how many people need to be removed from the position and put under enemy fire "... if the sector is under constant fire ..." to evacuate even one wounded? This dog is also quite capable of distracting the enemy’s fire, running along the line of fire with flashing beacons and other annoying devices. I agree with you on the cost of this product. Yes, expensive, but difficult, but what is the result?
            As for our students, mainly lawyers and economists, I think that even with a "turned on flashlight" they’ll give such crap on the mountain in 10 years, not earlier. And even then, if the Defense Ministry shows interest.
            I will be just happy if the whole amer’s venture is limited to just cutting the budget. And we can continue to move smoothly in the development of traditional weapons and combat concepts. hi
    2. agent rossii
      agent rossii 22 September 2015 13: 07 New
      +3
      I saw such a thing in Star Wars ....... the imperial walker is called laughing wassat
  8. maxbrov74
    maxbrov74 22 September 2015 12: 52 New
    -7
    Another high-tech blockhead from the striped budget sawers. Senseless and merciless.
  9. Alex_T
    Alex_T 22 September 2015 12: 55 New
    +9
    "The autonomy of his work is at least 2,5 hours," while far from a live donkey, he can work all day long on an armful of grass and pasture. All new technologies, while resting on good batteries or fuel supply.
  10. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 September 2015 12: 58 New
    +2
    Can this robot get up after falling on its side or back?
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 22 September 2015 13: 14 New
      +3
      Yes, there was a video online
    2. EFA
      EFA 22 September 2015 14: 30 New
      +1
      I suppose yes, at least it is not difficult to program and debug the kinematic control scheme during a fall (you can even teach to group)), especially considering how it maintains balance under external influence.
  11. GRAY
    GRAY 22 September 2015 13: 01 New
    -2
    Until they attach their hands to him, this device is completely useless - it cannot even be sent for beer.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 13: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: GRAY
      Until they attach their hands to him, this device is completely useless - it cannot even be sent for beer.

      so there is the same anthropomorphic Atlas)
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 22 September 2015 14: 00 New
        0
        Quote: Das Boot
        so there is the same anthropomorphic Atlas)

        A cable that is too long is needed for him, he will reach the boutiques for now, the homeless will clean up the whole occasion and turn them over. In addition, there is a high probability that this bastard will smash a half-store.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 22 September 2015 21: 45 New
          0
          Quote: GRAY
          A cable that is too long is needed for him, he will reach the boutiques for now, the homeless will clean up the whole occasion and turn them over. In addition, there is a high probability that this bastard will smash a half-store.

          Yes, there is such a possibility ... Or ...:
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: GRAY
      Until his hands attach

      Afraid for now. With legs still not fully understood.
      But when they attach a head and a tail to him ... he will break free.
  12. pimen
    pimen 22 September 2015 13: 02 New
    0
    it’s real, a walking scheme has an advantage over a wheeled one only in case of jumping from stone to stone, or when climbing a steep wall. Oh yes, women are also very beautiful
  13. Das Boot
    Das Boot 22 September 2015 13: 05 New
    +5
    Huh! grumbling again? laughing And I like it)) And Star Wars fans approve ....
  14. twincam
    twincam 22 September 2015 13: 10 New
    +2
    for rescue operations, raking blockages will go.
    but I’m too early to go with an automatic rifle, I think it’s too early, but for each such “product” a personal operator is still needed.
    if let the lads from such robots into autonomous autonomy with independent decision-making - I’m even afraid to assume anything))))
    either they will wet each other, or all that is around)))
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 22 September 2015 13: 21 New
      +3
      The product is positioned as a porter who follows a person, managing voice commands.
      1. ermak.sidorov
        ermak.sidorov 22 September 2015 13: 54 New
        0
        voice command management.

        Interestingly, and on the Russian mat how it will react =)
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 31 New
      -1
      Everything new - long forgotten old. Maybe there are still veterans who are able to tell the tricks and tactics of the CAVALERY motorized infantry unit?
  15. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 September 2015 13: 10 New
    +2
    Not a bad future vehicle, for the American president. Cowboy hat on a bowler hat and drove. laughing
  16. ASUR
    ASUR 22 September 2015 13: 20 New
    +6
    It looks scary. But interesting. Sooner or later, everything will appear exactly ...
  17. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 22 September 2015 13: 23 New
    +1
    It all starts with prototypes. However, if a powerful and fairly compact source of energy suddenly appears, then we would not have to catch them again ...
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 22 September 2015 13: 28 New
    +2
    Finally, the pindoconstructors managed to create a robot copying the gait of two drunk people carrying a sofa)))
    That way through 50 such a “porter” can indeed be useful. If its "authors" and their country will still exist)))
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 13: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: stock buildbat
      That way through 50 such a “porter” can indeed be useful. If its "authors" and their country will still exist)))

      will be. And in 50 years, what will Skolkovo give out? Toilet nano-brush with variable geometry of the pile?
      Boston Dynamics, in fact, has grown out of MTI, so don't worry about their potential. A giggle in the fist under the portrait of Chubais is the norm. Good luck.
      1. Down House
        Down House 22 September 2015 14: 38 New
        -1
        Quote: Das Boot
        Boston Dynamics, actually, grew out of MTI

        Boston Dynamics was actually created in 1992 and until 2013 it promised to create combat robots for grants from a gullible public, until it was bought with offal and debt by Google.
        The same BigDog was presented to the naive public back in 2005 and was never brought to the state of a workable production model, although during this time it was possible to fly to the moon!
        Therefore, you can giggle in the cam under the portrait of Obama and beyond, but this is nothing more than another cut of the US military budget and gullible or not very investors.
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 22 September 2015 15: 13 New
          0
          Quote: Down House
          Quote: Das Boot
          Boston Dynamics, actually, grew out of MTI
          Boston Dynamics was actually created in 1992.

          R&D dept. the company is represented by immigrants from MTI - what is wrong?
          Quote: Down House
          until 2013 she promised to create combat robots for grants from a gullible public

          yes, of course - charlatans, saw cutters, scammers, pseudo-scientists. Luzern, in a word. Indeed, if they hadn’t stolen, long ago they would have created AI, software with anthropomorphic motor simulation, an operating certified droid model for the USMC and a latrine cleaner for Donald Cook. Cursed world of purebred ...
          And now, bought by Google, enjoy its corporate identity - they don’t do a damn thing, the slave. The schedule is moving ... a dream job ...
          1. Down House
            Down House 22 September 2015 15: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Das Boot
            R&D dept. the company is represented by immigrants from MTI - what is wrong?

            And the fact that in this case does not mean anything. The further “career” of these natives is more important than the reputation of MTI.
            Quote: Das Boot
            yes, of course - charlatans, saw cutters, scammers, pseudo-scientists.

            Partly true. And also, successful commerce and PR masters.
            And everything is extremely simple: the only reason why humanity still does not use such robots is obvious - their production is not economically feasible, wheeled and tracked vehicles are much cheaper and simpler.
            And both developers and investors with a 100% probability know that there will NOT be real orders for the production of this equipment! They simply saw the budget on 150 unpromising developments in the coming years.
            1. Das Boot
              Das Boot 22 September 2015 15: 51 New
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              Quote: Down House
              And both developers and investors with a 100% probability know that there will NOT be real orders for the production of this equipment! They simply saw the budget on 150 unpromising developments in the coming years.

              What is the cut in this case? If there are no departmental orders, no tenders, no targeted investments? Nerds poking fun at sponsorship grants, inventing a working prototype of the T-800? Well, I say - a dream job. Although, I think, all these bestianoids-humanoids and other toys are not the only and not the main thing.
              Quote: Down House
              their production is not economically feasible; wheeled and tracked vehicles are much cheaper and simpler.
              Yes, I do not deny.
              1. Down House
                Down House 22 September 2015 16: 02 New
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                Quote: Das Boot
                What is the cut in this case?

                Some people give money to develop technologies that they will never buy.
                Others will always be engaged in development, realizing that they will never bring it to the serial end, because a serial model will mean the end of financing.
                The most "cut in the American way" - money is allocated, people work, prototypes are demonstrated, everyone knows that there will never be serial samples, but the "financing" continues.
                1. Das Boot
                  Das Boot 22 September 2015 16: 23 New
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                  Quote: Down House
                  The most "cut in the American way" - money is allocated, people work, prototypes are demonstrated, everyone knows that there will never be serial samples, but the "financing" continues.

                  Well, yes - financial stimulation that does not have a specific utilitarian outlet? And, in the end, what's wrong with that?)) What the hell of American taxpayers?) Maybe, of course, it would be more natural if Mark Rybert gave lectures at $ 700K apiece and gave an eternal light bulb and a tablet underneath Windu.
                  1. Down House
                    Down House 22 September 2015 16: 33 New
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                    Quote: Das Boot
                    And, in the end, what's wrong with that?))

                    No, well, actually nothing, you can even rejoice for Mark, he is engaged in an interesting business, he is more than well paid for this))))
                    But in the comments, if I’m not mistaken, we primarily discuss the possible future use of these OBDM. And they will not be, because it is cut and nothing more.
                    1. Das Boot
                      Das Boot 22 September 2015 17: 28 New
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                      Quote: Down House
                      First of all, we discuss the possible future use of these OBDF.
                      Why, I completely understood your point of view - you are conservative) The main admission in all of this futuristic talk is the existence of a utilitarian viable prototype with advanced softina and quizumanoid supermotor) Two tolerance, Hollywood is a machine vs a person. Even moderately apocalyptic Cameron & Co. leaves room for sequels laughing
  19. AlexG83
    AlexG83 22 September 2015 13: 30 New
    +3
    What's so funny? The fact that they move awkwardly is a matter of time.
  20. oberon 1
    oberon 1 22 September 2015 13: 40 New
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    So far, no one can replace the Chelveks.
  21. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 22 September 2015 13: 45 New
    +1
    The specialists from Boston very seriously worked out the movement and balance algorithms, which in itself is a good result. But it’s too early to talk about the possibilities of combat use, based on existing open information. Again, the last component, the carrying capacity of this mechanism, what is it?! So far, a lot questions!
  22. Makarov
    Makarov 22 September 2015 13: 47 New
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    Very impressive. Today we are making UAVs, and I can imagine how difficult and difficult it is to create something so technically complicated ....
  23. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 22 September 2015 13: 53 New
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    I bet on anything !!!! that our dear horse, a hard worker, from any village, will give a hundred points ahead - this fantasy of star wars))
  24. Kosta
    Kosta 22 September 2015 13: 58 New
    +1
    Why does someone see him as a soldier and what should he shoot with a machine gun?
    To carry cartridges or what other things in any way not on a hump
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 14: 39 New
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      Quote: Kosta
      Why does someone see him as a soldier and what should he shoot with a machine gun?

      Duc, because placed on VO. On the site of gardeners, he would be considered as a carrier of gardening equipment or a fertilizer spreader.
      1. wild
        wild 22 September 2015 15: 28 New
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        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Kosta
        Why does someone see him as a soldier and what should he shoot with a machine gun?

        Duc, because placed on VO. On the site of gardeners, he would be considered as a carrier of gardening equipment or a fertilizer spreader.

        Bravo:-):-):-)
    2. Petrix
      Petrix 22 September 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      It’s also good to use it to open enemy firing points or trample on a minefield. Booked and let jumps - collect all the stretch marks. And if it’s easier to shoot down UAVs because of the ease of construction, then this bullet is nothing.
  25. ARES623
    ARES623 22 September 2015 14: 07 New
    +1
    If such a beast were loaded with ammunition and sent to area 6 companies, I think they would be happy. But they themselves could not, and there was no one to send. On its territory, without a big war, having Moscow shrieked from idleness .........
  26. Izotovp
    Izotovp 22 September 2015 14: 26 New
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    Work on the creation of new energy sources is in full swing. Both we and the USA are actively working on nuclear batteries.
  27. EFA
    EFA 22 September 2015 14: 27 New
    +2
    The video is really impressive, nevertheless engineering thought moves progress forward, and even by military developments.

    And comments like "drag wires behind him" are very stupid, the video shows TESTS Do you really think that the tests last so little that the battery lasts? Robots are driven both in the tail and in the mane for days, so it is much easier to connect the cable than the batteries.

    In my opinion, it’s too early to talk about military applications, but the potential and prospects are enormous, and here I agree with the Armagedon user that without the AI ​​(real AI, and not just computational ability) these products are not yet applicable in real databases.
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 22 September 2015 14: 50 New
      +1
      What do you mean by AI for this robot? He walks around obstacles, maintain balance, put his foot, and he knows how to follow the operator. Paving the route is not (as far as I know), but he doesn’t need it: it’s a robot porter.
      1. EFA
        EFA 22 September 2015 15: 18 New
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        AI - Wikipedia: the property of intelligent systems to perform creative functions that are traditionally considered the prerogative of man. Including the ability to make decisions.
        1. Makarov
          Makarov 22 September 2015 17: 19 New
          +1
          AI is a myth. To realize even a system similar to the nervous ganglion is not capable (at this stage of evolution) of any person or organization. Fish brain level systems are fantastic and even unscientific ... judge for yourself the human brain consists of about 10-20 billion nerve cells. In the process of human mental activity in a certain order, in certain places, two connections are created and destroyed daily. The problem is that these 10-20 billion cells have from 100 thousand to millions of links in each ... in each link there are 25 mediators to encode one synapse (signal). Contacts are electrochemical ... but the main problem is that this process is not programmable and not mathematically calculable, but morphogenetic, that is, it occurs by means of the physical appearance of one contact and the destruction of the other ... to model all possible physical contacts of even two no one has managed mathematically so far ... This is not a data exchange process, but a process of creating connections. so forget about AI ... A computer will never create anything unique ... for this unique brain genius should create a lot of thought over it, because connections are created in the process of creativity extremely slowly ...
        2. xorgi
          xorgi 22 September 2015 21: 02 New
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          And why would such a robot have artificial intelligence? Reflexes at the insect level are enough.
      2. wild
        wild 22 September 2015 15: 27 New
        +1
        And then he is needed then ??? Drag the bale behind the operator who drags his batteries :-) :-) :-)
  28. roskot
    roskot 22 September 2015 14: 52 New
    -2
    Such a robot needs a security platoon and a department for specialists in commissioning. And then he gets up and cries.
  29. slizhov
    slizhov 22 September 2015 15: 19 New
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    The robot consists of 2 parts. One, resting on the ground with her feet, frantically butts the other, who is also trying not to concede! :)
  30. wild
    wild 22 September 2015 15: 26 New
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    It’s pointless to discuss the future exploits of this robber, imagine how he will drag the BC to the front for 2.5 hours and take out the wounded at least naively, and to talk about it in an urban battle, and at all ..... the project really sawed the dough, you can have a bunch of articles picking up about whole institutions involved in banana peel problems. Bullshit next.
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 22 September 2015 16: 03 New
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      Quote: wild
      Bullshit next.

      Alas. The future of cars you will see in the "Terminator". As long ago, in fairy tales, we imagined airplane carpets or an apple on a saucer.
      He will not bear the wounded. By that time, human participation directly at the firing line will be regarded as suicide and anachronism. And in the armies, people will remain only in leading posts (in effective armies).
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 22 September 2015 16: 17 New
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        Quote: Petrix
        And in the armies, people will remain only in leading posts (in effective armies).

        Therefore, ineffective Russian marines and landing troops will come to the bunker with crowbars and pick out the leaders of effective armies from there
  31. Urri
    Urri 22 September 2015 16: 11 New
    +2
    But do you want, gentlemen of skeptics, to be in a real battle in a dozen years against an armored monster running at a speed of 60 km / h and possessing maneuverability many times greater than a human one? Against the enemy, in which you can’t even get out of the Kalash from 20 meters away, who will jump a XNUMX-meter obstacle in the movement towards you and continue to run without losing balance. Will you have time to change the person shot to an empty store?
    For 200 years BC, a Greek from Alexandria was also laughing at a steam turbine. And today in Russia, corvettes for diesel are being redone, because there are no turbines of their own production of the required class.
    The price of laughter of the townsfolk over the technical achievements of cranks is often the life of these same townsfolk a little later. At the beginning of the century, Dresden made fun of a local glider who crashed on makeshift wings. And after 40 years, the Allied aviation burned Dresden into coal.
    1. Down House
      Down House 22 September 2015 16: 20 New
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      Quote: Urri
      But do you want, gentlemen skeptics, to be in a real battle in a dozen years against an armored monster running at a speed of 60 km / h?

      You are a little behind reality, these "monsters" already exist and are called BMP))))
      Do not think that combat robots will replace people, combat robots will cost if not like a tank, then exactly like an IFV, but classic IFVs are much more effective than such a robot in battle.
      And just do not think that with the "development of technology" robots will become cheaper. They will still be more difficult and more expensive to manufacture than BMPs and also less effective.
      Although a couple of wunderwafers may be built for special forces, the efficiency in the whole theater will be zero from them.
      1. lockout
        lockout 22 September 2015 22: 53 New
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        Good, good, BMP will defeat everyone, well done. Thank God, now you don’t need to think about the future, since there is an IFV. I propose that all kinds of troops saturate the BMP. In response to the development of high-precision weapons by enemy countries, we will simply produce more infantry fighting vehicles! If suddenly there is danger, saddle your personal infantry fighting vehicle and go! B-M-P!
  32. Urri
    Urri 22 September 2015 16: 33 New
    +1
    BMP in a dense urban area without dense cover by infantry is a mass grave.
    An artificial fighting shepherd under the same conditions is the death of an infantry.
    Today's penny cell in computing power exceeds the first model of "Kray" worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Robots will be cheaper. And one such robot will kill dozens of fighters before it is destroyed. And after the first such battle, your army will run away without a trace at the mere mention of the appearance of such animals within sight. Do you really think that you can compete in reaction and speed of fire or speed of limbs with a computer? Turn on the "Stalker" at maximum difficulty and fight with the "military". Reassessing your ability to fire accurately will not keep you waiting.
    Before investing in development, Americans pay a lot of money to analysts and psychologists, and their planning horizon is not up to "well, I’ll give my daughter in marriage ...".
    1. Down House
      Down House 22 September 2015 16: 45 New
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      Quote: Urri
      Today's penny cell in computing power exceeds the first model of "Kray" worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

      The main thing is that "cell phones" are still inferior to computers in computing capabilities and are still more expensive than stationary ones.
      In the context of the news under discussion, this means that the robot will always cost more than the infantryman's insurance, and the BMP will always be more effective than the robot at a similar cost.
  33. Urri
    Urri 22 September 2015 16: 55 New
    +1
    I described to you the conditions in which an infantry fighting vehicle at a similar cost will not only not be more efficient, but will die without causing losses to the enemy. At the same time, a dog of the same value in serial production is the opposite.
    You should take into account that such robots will be assembled again by robots. But in the case of BMP - this is a problem. Robotization of the assembly of massive parts sometimes increases the cost of assembly by several orders of magnitude, due to the simply gigantic cost of the equipment needed, and even more so - for the capital costs of installing such equipment.
    In addition, today the level of development of portable anti-tank weapons raises questions about increasing the mass of tanks and heavy armored infantry fighting vehicles to 65-70 tons. And the main armor again becomes speed and maneuverability, in which such a dog, and even in the conditions of dense cluttered urban development, in which infantry fighting vehicles stuck for sure, there will be no equal. In addition to the same enemy dog. But the enemy giggles disgustingly. Till. And then it will be mournful to follow the coffins of the best representatives of his people. SC
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 17: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Down House
      You are a little behind reality, these "monsters" already exist and are called BMP))))

      Quote: Urri
      in which a similar dog, and even in a dense cluttered urban area in which an BMP gets stuck for sure, will not be equal.


      But 80 years ago, the topic "dog vs BTT" was considered seriously. In the photo - T-26 with anti-dog mesh. A stun gun of four Ford magnetos + six horn. So, your argument, comrades, with a well-known update, has long-standing roots))
  34. ingenera
    ingenera 22 September 2015 18: 34 New
    +4
    I don’t understand the mood of “shaking” many commentators. Yes, all this "four-legged" moves funny and awkward compared to live prototypes. But nature has perfected this for millions of years. It is sad that these videos were not shot at our MVTU. Bauman and somewhere in Americanism. And the fact that our Russian horse ... etc. And the author of a comment about a horse, even knows how to harness? Again it is necessary to catch up with the “damned” - that’s sad. There is such a science - bionics. There, it is as if studying the application in technology of solutions already existing in nature (if we say primitively). It seems that we also ditched it.
  35. Urri
    Urri 22 September 2015 21: 17 New
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    Quote: Das Boot
    But 80 years ago, the topic "dog vs BTT" was considered seriously


    Torn off the tongue. A couple of months ago, on this very forum, an ordinary advertising article for our Israeli partners about the creation of a highly protected wheeled combat vehicle by them appeared. In the comments to the article during the discussion, I was asked the question of how I personally would destroy this machine. He replied that he would have let a mine dog. To which our partners objected that this runs counter to the philosophy prevailing in their theater of war that the dog, according to the Koran, is an unclean animal and the Muslim will not use it.
    Non-living - will be. At the appropriate cost of its one-time unlicensed Chinese copy.
    As for religious principles, when the Koran was written, there were no minefields. Go Fatima, go.
    By the way, minefields will be the most effective weapon against such a beast. But it will be difficult for people to live on such land later.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 21: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Urri
      He replied that he would have let a mine dog. To which our partners objected that this runs counter to the philosophy prevailing in their theater of war that the dog, according to the Koran, is an unclean animal and the Muslim will not use it.
      Non-living - will be. At the appropriate cost of its one-time unlicensed Chinese copy.

      well, cameramad, I think these Muslim conventions about wolves, donkeys, dogs, and so on. quite solvable - in Iran, the restriction on the use of food of scaleless fish was removed by specials. fatwa - and with a shahidyak dog they’ll come up with something. In extreme cases, the Chinese will bung cloven hooves for fighting bestianoids ...
  36. Urri
    Urri 22 September 2015 21: 53 New
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    Quote: Das Boot
    Das Boot


    Sorry, not the topic. Your avatar. Shot from my favorite movie. Many times revised. Though the enemy. The music is special there. Well, the famous "Early friends! Early!"

    And the name bestianoids, in my opinion, most fully corresponds to this class of devices. I respect a lot!
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 22: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Urri
      Well, the famous "Early friends! Early!"


      Or: Ruhig, immer ruhig Männer. Das ist noch gar nichts.

      The greatest movie.
      Thank you Camerad.