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NI: Chinese aircraft carriers can press the US Navy

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The dominant position of the US Navy over time can press the Chinese aircraft carriers, says American military commentator Dave Majumdar. His article, published in National Interest, leads Rossiyskaya Gazeta.




“For many decades since the end of World War II, the US Navy group has been the dominant force in the oceans. Even the Soviet Union, which focused on the strategy of “prohibiting the free use of the sea” could not challenge the superiority of the Americans, for which he used heavy Backfire bombers, submarines and ships armed with long-range anti-ship missiles, ”writes Majumdar.

According to him, in China, "previously also adhered to a similar strategy, but today the Chinese are going to assemble their fleet, which one day will be able to challenge the Americans on the high seas."

In favor of his version, the author cites the fact that China acquired the aircraft carrying cruiser Varyag (Liaoning), which is intended "to defeat large surface targets and protect maritime formations from attacks of a potential enemy."

“Liaoning is only a starting point, it seems to be used as a“ training tool ”to develop the skills necessary to work with aircraft carriers,” said Majumdar and notes that “the US Navy needed decades of testing and mistakes. "

He recalled that "on the basis of the Russian Su-33, the Chinese created their own carrier-based fighter, the J-15, and as expected, China can build (or possibly already build) aircraft carriers that are suitable for the use of these aircraft."

However, the author is confident that it will take decades for China to build aircraft carriers, since the country has no experience building such ships.
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  1. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 September 2015 11: 21
    +5
    Everything is absolutely logical! The Chinese are dominant in surface ships, Ours in the submarine fleet and ground army. In the place we are power. And not some green pieces of paper are enough for us to chase.
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    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 22 September 2015 11: 30
      +5
      Inside BRICS and SCO, neutralize the contradictions between China and India. Against such a trinity, the Americans will not stand it and will certainly go to their periphery.
    3. ARES623
      ARES623 22 September 2015 12: 15
      +13
      Quote: Observer2014
      Together - we are force.

      Together with the Chinese? Oh well. Behind these comrades an eye is needed. They still have not explained why our Primorye is painted with Chinese color on some of their maps. For starters, we’ll take into account that nothing is done just there ... even without painting.
      1. WKS
        WKS 22 September 2015 12: 33
        0
        In fact, aircraft carriers are ships for attacking areas remote from the metropolis. If China is going to subjugate remote overseas territories, then it needs an aircraft carrier fleet. But most likely China (by the way, and Russia) does not plan such aggressive actions, and therefore it does not require ships of this class. One two is enough to satisfy pride. In addition, sinking someone else's aircraft carrier is much cheaper and easier than building and operating your own.
        1. strannik1985
          strannik1985 23 September 2015 02: 15
          -1
          Come on. In your opinion, the doctrine of the USSR changed when the ATAVKR pr.1143.7 "Ulyanovsk" was laid?
      2. afrikanez
        afrikanez 22 September 2015 13: 05
        0
        And who is to blame for this, I think local, corrupt self-governing people. That's where you need to start, then the Chinese maps will correctly color all territories. negative
      3. Sailor
        Sailor 22 September 2015 14: 48
        +1
        I completely agree with you, they adhere to their eastern philosophy in order to play off two "tigers" and finish off the victorious but already weakened one. Our "neighbor" is very difficult.
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 September 2015 14: 09
      0
      Yes, you are a dreamer. First, China has its own interests. Secondly, they are at the dawn of the construction of aircraft carriers, and at the stage of "finishing up" Soviet reserves. The United States has been practicing the construction of an aircraft carrier fleet for more than 70 years. Well, they do not spare their green candy wrappers for this expensive business.
  2. sinukvl
    sinukvl 22 September 2015 11: 22
    +2
    Why is our "Admiral Kuznetsov" in the photo for this article?
    1. Penetrator
      Penetrator 22 September 2015 11: 27
      +1
      Probably the Chinese do not allow "Liaoning" to take a picture smile
      1. Bombardier
        Bombardier 22 September 2015 11: 30
        +3
        And I'm more amused by Western military observers and experts! Here's how to get settled in life - write nonsense, and you’ll be cut green paper for it! good
        1. avt
          avt 22 September 2015 11: 49
          -1
          Quote: Bombardier
          And I'm more amused by Western military observers and experts!

          Yeah, and the American with the surname Majumdar laughing Didn’t he write this article for an hour in Bombay? laughing
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          2. Mera joota
            Mera joota 22 September 2015 12: 07
            0
            Quote: avt
            Yeah, and the Americans with the surname Majumdar. He did not write this article for an hour in Bombay?

            He is American Indian. He writes all kinds of heresy for magazines, but for some reason publications publish it.
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 13: 00
              +1
              Quote: Mera Joota
              He is American Indian. He writes all kinds of heresy for magazines, but for some reason publications publish it.
              His articles have recently been posted here about Armata and the T-50. Now he reached for the Chinese aircraft carriers. Just another star has risen among the military expert analysts. So soon Feldenhauer will be eclipsed by Novaya Gazeta laughing
          3. Karlovar
            Karlovar 23 September 2015 11: 36
            0
            USA-mnogonacionalnaja strana ... Tam zivut predstaviteli vseh narodov mira! V etom ih sila ...
    2. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 22 September 2015 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: sinukvl
      Why is our "Admiral Kuznetsov" in the photo for this article?


      Well, such a picture of a Yankees aircraft carrier from the periscope of our submarine would tear the nervous system of the frame, as he likes to say, to shreds! bully
  3. Sergey K.
    Sergey K. 22 September 2015 11: 22
    +1
    However, the author is confident that it will take decades for China to build aircraft carriers, since the country has no experience building such ships.

    The author’s confidence that China will need decades to build an aircraft carrier can be considered justified. China has already repeatedly proved in practice that copying from someone’s prototypes and producing their own is their trump card.
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 22 September 2015 11: 22
    +2
    I still like China in its strategy ... They quietly work without noise! They copy a lot and steal technologies, but this is all usual ..)))) bully China’s fleet should be powerful, their interests are there ..! (And we will help, of course, not mutually beneficial, as before)
  5. roskot
    roskot 22 September 2015 11: 30
    +1
    The Chinese Navy has already taken care of it. Everywhere mattresses propped up. There is nothing around the world to march around with the club of American democracy.
  6. V.ic
    V.ic 22 September 2015 11: 34
    0
    Let the southern vector of the PRC's foreign policy intensify! For me, a Chinese aircraft carrier at sea will be more attractive than an American one. Although not excluded in the future, the option as in the old movie "Emergency".
  7. Dimka999
    Dimka999 22 September 2015 11: 36
    0
    Liaoning-Lenin ....))
  8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 September 2015 11: 37
    +2
    Dave Majumdar's real name is Captain Evidence laughing
  9. Denis_469
    Denis_469 22 September 2015 11: 42
    0
    The author does not know for sure that, according to the Taiwanese, China has 2 Liaoning-class aircraft carriers ready for launch and 4 more are under construction, of which 2 are nuclear-powered. And the Taiwanese are still saying that China is building aircraft carriers according to Russian projects and there is a preliminary agreement on the construction of aircraft carriers for Russia in China, which can simultaneously build 6 aircraft carriers.
  10. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 22 September 2015 11: 51
    0
    NI: Chinese aircraft carriers can press the US Navy

    Well, maybe in 10-20 years, then yes ... For comparison, the United States has 10 nuclear-powered aircraft carriers of the Chester W. Nimitz type, plus 2 Gerald R. Ford type under construction (the first CVN-78 was laid down on November 14.11.2009, 10.11.2013 ., launched on November 2016, 22, the estimated date of transfer to the fleet is 2018, the second "John F. Kennedy" was laid in August 2020 of this year, launching is planned in 2018, transfer to the fleet in XNUMX, the third "Enterprise" planned to be laid in XNUMX).
    Air group of the American aircraft carrier 55 fighter-bomber F / A-18С and F / A-18E / F "Hornet", 4 aircraft electronic warfare EA-6B, 4 aircraft AWACS E-2C "Hawkeye", 4 helicopters PLO SH-60F, 2 HH -60H, and at most it can carry about 90 aircraft and helicopters.

    Planned air group of the Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier of about 90 F / A-18E / F Super Hornet and F-35C Lightning II fighter-bombers, EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft, Grumman C-2 Greyhound transport aircraft, E-2 Hawkeye AWACS , Sikorsky SH-60 Seahawk helicopters and Northrop Grumman X-47B attack UAVs.
    In addition, 8 Wasp-type UDCs must be added to this, the standard air group of which includes 6-8 AV-8B aircraft (maximum 20 AV-8B) and 1 newest one - transferred to the fleet in 2014, America-type UDC 6 F-35B (maximum 22 F-35B) another "Tripoli" was laid down on June 22.06.2014, 11, and a total of XNUMX ships are planned to be built.
    For the time being, China can oppose all this splendor with ONE aircraft carrier "Liaoning" (nee "Riga", then "Varyag"), carefully sold by our ukro "Brothers" with an air group of 24 Shenyang J-15 fighters (an analogue of our Su-33, built on based on its prototype T-10K-3, again carefully sold by Ukrami), 4 Z-18J AWACS helicopters (based on the French Super Frelon, but our Ka-31s are still in use), 6 Z-18F anti-submarine helicopters. 2 search and rescue helicopters Z-9C (copy of the French Eurocopter "AS365 Dauphin".

    It should be borne in mind that the Liaoning, unlike the Americans, does not have catapults, but a springboard; The fighter spends the main fuel supply on takeoff, or takes off with a light combat load, which does not allow them to carry anti-ship missiles, unlike American aircraft. Those. The Liaoning is a defensive weapon, and the Americans are offensive.
    The construction of the first national aircraft carrier may have started at the end of 2010. Prior to its commissioning, carrier-based fighters and pilots will use the Liaoning as a simulator for practicing takeoff and landing techniques on the flight deck and tactical use of aircraft from an aircraft carrier. At the same time, it is assumed that "Liaoning" will also be in combat formation, since China, according to various sources, is preparing to have from four to six aircraft carrier strike groups in the 2020s, which will be deployed in the South China and East China Seas.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 September 2015 12: 13
      0
      Quote: Novel 1977
      Well maybe in 10-20 years

      Not so soon, rather - through 60-70 :) But in principle, China has some chances
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  11. Good cat
    Good cat 22 September 2015 11: 58
    0
    The Chinese are learning very fast!
  12. tomket
    tomket 22 September 2015 11: 59
    0
    Quote: Denis_469
    on the construction of aircraft carriers for Russia in China, which can simultaneously build aircraft carriers on 6

    It’s probably easier for Putin to order an aircraft carrier in China than to contact Vasilyeva again))))
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 22 September 2015 12: 41
      0
      We have no slipways suitable for their construction. And Vasiliev has nothing to do with it.
      1. soratnik
        soratnik 22 September 2015 14: 26
        -1
        And to build in Severomorsk for the Indians an aircraft carrier slipways were found. It’s just a trend that Putin falls under the Chinese. He probably likes it.
        1. Denis_469
          Denis_469 23 September 2015 11: 31
          0
          It was not built, but modernized.
  13. soratnik
    soratnik 22 September 2015 12: 09
    +2
    I am happy for the Chinese! Apparently nothing like this can happen in our Navy! For this, Andrei Melnichenko bought a yacht the size of a destroyer from us. Apparently this is more necessary for our country now. Like the World Cup. If you can’t give people affordable bread, you can give spectacles. This is more profitable for someone ...
  14. Mera joota
    Mera joota 22 September 2015 12: 14
    0
    From how it is, hypothetical aircraft carriers are superior to existing ones ...
  15. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 22 September 2015 12: 16
    0
    Soon, China will introduce the line of aircraft carriers in aliexpress.com.
    Option: simple or atomic
    Carrier Group X Aircraft
    Bonus is a pair of helicopters and an AWACS aircraft.
    Oh, and buyers come running! )))
    Seriously, we are waiting! The USSR failed to compete, Russia did not succeed.
    But China can do it. If only the volume of his Gorbi and corrupt special services did not appear.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 September 2015 12: 28
    -1
    The leading position of the U.S. Navy may eventually be supplanted by Chinese aircraft carriers, says US military observer Dave Majumdar


    What, again flowed in his pants?
    Well, how gentle they are, these mericatos.
    Only they can fight with the tribes.
  17. Platonich
    Platonich 22 September 2015 12: 28
    -1
    There was someone's prediction that the yellow race would rule the world! Very very like that! And Russia, as always, will be in the tail!
  18. Altona
    Altona 22 September 2015 13: 23
    -1
    The Pakistani analyst is no longer funny writing, it’s not interesting to read ... In general, the United States has two types of submarine ships and targets, according to their own admiral ...
  19. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 22 September 2015 14: 40
    -1
    This super-analyst (he is a military expert, he is a military columnist) of Dave Majumdar became a lot of something! Chito is for birds, and with what eat it? ... what
    Well, almost a messenger of God in the field of military analytics wassat Just like that, and everyone knows what will happen in 20 years, 30 years ... Who needs much for something .... lol
  20. nnz226
    nnz226 22 September 2015 14: 58
    0
    In my opinion, the Chinese bought this aircraft carrier from "Vshchenevmerliks" back in the 90s of the last century .... Why are the Americans just now fussing about? The Chinese finally made it ?! So it seems that the flag has been raised on it for a long time ... Incomprehensible vanity ...
  21. Old26
    Old26 22 September 2015 20: 42
    0
    Quote: sinukvl
    Why is our "Admiral Kuznetsov" in the photo for this article?

    Why, why ... They did not find a photo of Chinese from this angle