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In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible

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American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - a dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to the Army Times.




The stealth film is based on Teflon with microscopic ceramic cylinders integrated into its structure.

“The material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which to disguise. On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters. The coating thickness, accordingly, will be three millimeters, ”said the head of the project, Boubacar Kante of the University of California.

The currently used paints and films for airplanes use the same principle, but their thickness must be greater than the radar wavelength by an order of magnitude, which significantly increases the cost and weight of the aircraft.

“So far, our coverage works only with radiation at a specific frequency, but in the future we plan to create a material that will be effective in a wide wavelength range, including optical,” said Professor Kante.

At the moment, Teflon with ceramics is effective in the case of radiation falling at an angle of 42-48 degrees, that is, to use its wonderful properties, American aircraft must approach the radar strictly according to a certain course.

But even this will not help the stealth aircraft to escape from the newest Russian low-frequency radar systems used in the C-400 and C-500 anti-aircraft missile systems, which see the aircraft, ignoring stealth technology. The fifth generation fighter, the PAK FA, uses the Himalaya electronic warfare system integrated into the fuselage, and the high-altitude drone created by Sukhoi Design Bureau can find air targets while remaining imperceptible.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 11: 05 New
    -11
    The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 September 2015 11: 08 New
      +6
      Well ... Let’s take it into account! Oh, the USA wants to and is pricked ... laughing Well, you do not need to climb into Russia, there were few examples?
      1. Scandinavian
        Scandinavian 22 September 2015 11: 11 New
        24
        The F-117 pilot also thought so when he bombed Yugoslavia. But the Russian club hits without a miss.
        1. Dimka999
          Dimka999 22 September 2015 11: 24 New
          +1
          Russian rusty ragadka brought down the latest of that time F117)
          1. crazyrom
            crazyrom 22 September 2015 19: 22 New
            0
            Fall not get up. Can you imagine what the airplanes will turn from 3mm paint? This is one-third of a cubic meter of paint, a kilo of 200 easily. And who and how will control the thickness? Little of,
            On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters.

            And on average? It must be exactly the same. And then we have half of the 2мм radar and the other half of 4, so on average 3 and nifiga will not work.
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 22 September 2015 19: 33 New
              0
              In fact, the whole trick is not in the depth of the paint layer, but in the dimensionality of the plane, which coincides or not, with the wavelength and speed of the aircraft and frequency parameters, we will say a ray of perturbation. Therefore, Ufimev also focused on the energy of the process. Or rather, dividing it into the part that is being analyzed and the one that is outside this process. And this second part is what many do not understand
            2. arane
              arane 23 September 2015 00: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: crazyrom
              Fall not get up. Can you imagine what the airplanes will turn from 3mm paint? This is one-third of a cubic meter of paint, a kilo of 200 easily. And who and how will control the thickness? Little of,
              On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters.

              And on average? It must be exactly the same. And then we have half of the 2мм radar and the other half of 4, so on average 3 and nifiga will not work.

              There is some kind of mishandled minus! And stupid to the same! 3 ship radar wavelength cm? I will go away with tears!
              Not, in principle, everything is correct, but for some reason they are silent that this is the range of navigation radars! Shooting stations, and especially airborne lighting stations, have a different wavelength, and therefore a different frequency! F = C / lambda, sorry, there is no such symbol in the list!
        2. Good me
          Good me 22 September 2015 11: 54 New
          11
          In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible


          По логике, это сообщение, должна венчать фраза : "Доказанно британскими учёными".
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      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 22 September 2015 11: 17 New
        26
        American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to the Army Times.
        Да помнится мне после просмотра "Звёздных войн" Рони Рейган устроил "СОИ"...
        Сейчас Обама видимо пересмотрел "Хищника"...

        P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? .. laughing
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 22 September 2015 11: 35 New
          +5
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          Exceptionally stylistically poor, American obscene ...

          Ибо иных средств, после "распила", уже не останется...
        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 22 September 2015 11: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          А насколько устойчиво будет данное "чудо"-покрытие в полёте ?!
          It’s one thing to test on earth, in statics, and in flight, at different heights,
          different temperatures and changing humidity?
          At high speeds, when exposed, it will not be visible either? And how much will it cost?
          Isn't it the same scarecrow as SOY (SOY) ?! wink
          1. demo
            demo 22 September 2015 12: 09 New
            +4
            Особенно понравилось погодное явление -"обляденение".
            Excited! drinks

            Something from the series - B.L. himself, without an ensemble!
            1. Throw
              Throw 22 September 2015 13: 35 New
              +3
              The dispatchers are the most outspoken ones, landing an invisible plane. And the pilots, when they start sticking into each other laughing
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 22 September 2015 20: 33 New
              0
              Yes, they will soon be making a mirror coating on all combat aircraft, with zero surface roughness, which will not be visible to the eye and there will be no cloaking.
        3. kit-kat
          kit-kat 22 September 2015 11: 54 New
          0
          In any case, an object will be invisible only from the hemisphere from which the radiation falls. From the ground he will be seen perfectly.
        4. mihasik
          mihasik 22 September 2015 11: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          The fan-diffuser will be installed on the back)
        5. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 22 September 2015 11: 55 New
          +1
          Sorry, I mistakenly set a minus, but the Predator, in my opinion, is still an example for them to follow, plus definitely ..... and the inversion trace will be cooled with a fan good
          1. alexng
            alexng 22 September 2015 12: 20 New
            0
            Balabamka will be put on the tail with a fan instead of a fan, so it will be cheaper.
        6. BMP-2
          BMP-2 22 September 2015 12: 04 New
          +2
          American experts are really well aware of the only possible way to make planes invisible: FILL YOUR EYES! drinks Here they are following this path and FILL. tongue
        7. demo
          demo 22 September 2015 12: 07 New
          +4
          The best way to hide a plane is to put it in a caponier.
          At the same time there will be no trace!
          I'm right?
          1. dsi
            dsi 22 September 2015 12: 55 New
            0
            The best way to hide a plane

            Hit him on the ground.
          2. Shuttle
            Shuttle 22 September 2015 13: 36 New
            +2
            Quote: demo
            The best way to hide a plane is to put it in a caponier.
            At the same time there will be no trace!
            I'm right?

            Yes, but not completely.
            The best way to make an airplane invisible is to disassemble the airplane, i.e. cease its existence as an object.
            And no one can do it better than Russian air defense.

            "Прости, американец, я не знал, что он невидимый"
            © As if on behalf of Zoltan Dani.
        8. Fregate
          Fregate 22 September 2015 12: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          Blue aerosol :)
        9. dvina71
          dvina71 22 September 2015 13: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what kind of coating the Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft?

          Кроме того им надо покрыть пленкой собственные излучения самолета.. А насчет " в птическом" диапазоне..улыбныло..этот ученый хоть знает дипазон солнечного света и его свойства?
        10. Lee_Mubai
          Lee_Mubai 22 September 2015 13: 15 New
          +1
          A witch will sit on the tail, and disperse this damned trail with a broom! laughing А вообще они на этой краске сейчас бабла отмоют миллиардов этак 10-20, потом где нибудь в "горах" "зимбабвы" туземцы из старой Советской рогатки собьют такую супер невидимую машину!, и они признают не эффективной!!!мол извините ребята, она не видимая, только когда стоит у нас в ангаре hi
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      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 22 September 2015 12: 05 New
        0
        Well, we only hope for Chubais .. maybe he’ll also come up with a little film, 20 lards, instead of nano-asphalt .. wassat
      5. NEXUS
        NEXUS 22 September 2015 12: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Well ... Let’s take it into account! Oh, the USA wants to and is pricked ...

        Раз уже говорят наши спецы о том из чего она и принцип ее работы,значит это у нас либо в союзные времена разрабатывалось,либо уже есть "противоядие",но американцы еще об этом не знают laughing
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Well, you do not need to climb into Russia, there were few examples?

        From these last examples, P_i_n_d_o_stan didn’t get rich and gained weight in the world. They didn’t take the coals from the fire with their own hands ... and now they bite Europeans and mongrels like Georgia and Latvia.
      6. Kent0001
        Kent0001 22 September 2015 22: 44 New
        0
        Swam, we know ... this is another knocking out of budget money for the Pentagon to cut ...
    2. andranick
      andranick 22 September 2015 11: 23 New
      0
      I assure you that if someone approaches me at a certain angle and has a narrow field of view, then 4 mirrors will be enough for me to achieve the invisibility effect in the optical range. Another thing is, what kind of durak will fulfill these conditions?
    3. Finches
      Finches 22 September 2015 11: 24 New
      +6
      For every cunning ass, there is a x ... with a thread! But we must pay tribute to the Americans - they created such conditions for scientists, scientific research, that the smartest heads of the planet Earth have been coming to them from all over the world for more than a century! Russia always rich in talents needs to finally understand - that the resale of gas, oil, jeans ... is quick and easy money without much income, and the greatness of the country lies in this - in science and high technology production!
      And in our department a candidate of sciences for 13 thousand, gives lectures ..., oh Mother Russia!
    4. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 22 September 2015 11: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.


      The stealth film is based on Teflon with microscopic ceramic cylinders integrated into its structure.

      Насчет невидимости не уверен,но тушка янки-пилота сбитого "Вербой" не прилипнет к корпусу самолета именно благодаря тефлону. tongue
    5. Tanais
      Tanais 22 September 2015 11: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 11: 42 New
        -5
        Made in Japan
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 22 September 2015 12: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Made in Japan

          Did the Japanese come up with a projector?
          belay
          1. Tanais
            Tanais 22 September 2015 12: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: GRAY
            Did the Japanese come up with a projector?

            They poked at the Lumiere brothers ...
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 13: 11 New
            -4
            Quote: GRAY
            Did the Japanese come up with a projector?

            No, it's just a raincoat, although many already have such crap.
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 22 September 2015 13: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No, it's just a raincoat, although many already have such crap.

              At 0:32 it’s clear that there is a tripod with a camera behind the guy who takes the street, I assume that the projector is not shining on him, but just the image on the computer is being processed.
              This is just an illusion, not an invisibility cloak.
        2. Tanais
          Tanais 22 September 2015 12: 05 New
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Made in Japan


          novels, you are still young, and in view of this, apparently you do not know that something like this was experienced in the USSR long before the Japanese.
          И более того, проводились натурные эксперименты, по продвижению под таким "покровом" групп спецназа к захваченным террористами воздушным судам (разумеется на стоянке laughing ) ...

          Но всё дело упирается в то, что и "японское чудо", и наработки СССР, работают только в статике...

          Therefore, your faith in invisibility still remains faith in a fairy tale ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 13: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Tanais
            Но всё дело упирается в то, что и "японское чудо", и наработки СССР, работают только в статике...

            But do not answer, what is the principle of the Japanese cloak? Well, due to what does he let himself through ???
            As for statics, any technology, especially complex one, takes time. Like a simple radio, for example, it was recognized as the most useless invention in its time.

            Yes, and on the basis of the USSR facts in the studio
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              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 13: 53 New
                -2
                Quote: GRAY
                It does not let light in at all, the cloak acts as a screen on which the image is simply projected

                Yes, due to micro screens. It was possible to write without a mat.
    6. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 22 September 2015 12: 47 New
      +1
      Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. As with the invisibility in the decimeter range, that with the thermal invisibility of the engines. Where to hide the inversion trace ??? Bullshit is shorter.
    7. user
      user 22 September 2015 13: 35 New
      +1
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.


      A fairy tale and a fairy tale so that children would believe in it, and adult uncles should know physics. And physics today says that it is possible to reduce radar visibility, but under certain conditions and a certain range and for certain surveillance systems (as you can see, we are not talking about complete invisibility), i.e. for every tricky bolt there is a tricky nut (with a certain development of science, this is only a matter of time, and not very big).
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 13: 43 New
        -2
        Quote: user
        A fairy tale and a fairy tale so that children would believe in it, and adult uncles should know physics.

        Why doesn't your nichrome physics work?
        Explain it and get a Nobel wink
        1. user
          user 22 September 2015 13: 54 New
          +1
          Explain it and get a Nobel


          Что бы объяснить такие вещи нужно досканально изучить данную проблему как теоритически так и "на местности", но подобные вещи иногда случаются обычно по причине не полного изучения проблемы, иногда из за нехватки знаний именно конкретного случая. Достаточно вспомнить Курскую магнитную анамалию, а ведь еще не прошло и 200 лет когда над этой проблемой ломала голову вся Европа, более свежий это большой кратер от взрыва на Ямале(да таких случаев было множество, а в данном конкретном случае предприимчивый народ на этом уже и деньги зарабатывают)
          1. Tanais
            Tanais 22 September 2015 14: 14 New
            0
            Quote: user
            Что бы объяснить такие вещи нужно досканально изучить данную проблему как теоритически так и "на местности", но подобные вещи иногда случаются обычно по причине не полного изучения проблемы, иногда из за нехватки знаний именно конкретного случая.


            And sometimes the intrigues of Coperfield lol
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 14: 19 New
            -2
            Quote: user
            Что бы объяснить такие вещи нужно досканально изучить данную проблему как теоритически так и "на местности"

            Groups of scientists are there for days, but cannot understand why.
            Quote: user
            sometimes due to lack of knowledge of a particular case.

            Aha, that is, knowledge is not enough for humanity to understand.
            Quote: user
            and in this particular case, enterprising people earn money on this

            Yes, why not. If scientists think that they already know everything. Science is only 100 by and large. Or they created a jet engine, split the atom, flew into space and thought we knew everything. Naivety is the main enemy of the scientist
        2. prostofily
          prostofily 22 September 2015 15: 25 New
          0
          Bazhenov must sometimes watch.
        3. nik13
          nik13 22 September 2015 22: 51 New
          0
          in my opinion everything is corny, to repeat this miracle you will need a rope and a magnet, and of course a hacksaw for metal))
    8. Very smart
      Very smart 22 September 2015 14: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.

      Colleague, how old are you? Such a big boy, but believes in fairy tales ...
      A physics course for high school, a maximum of the second year of a technical university - effective radiation is possible at a radiator size commensurate with the emitted wavelength. All! Arrived!
      На подводных лодках резиновое (для согласования импедансов) покрытие - толстое, т.к. частоты низкие и очень низкие. Для самолетов частоты, конечно, повыше. НО: диапазон широкий! И воздух - не вода! Можно слегка увеличить потери от облучения РЛС. В узком диапазоне. В основном при целеуказании, а не обнаружении. А сделать что-либо невидимым в оптическом диапазоне - сказка. Конечно "Мы рождены, чтоб сказку сделать былью!..." Но не прямо сейчас. Надо немного подождать. Когда откроют либо новые законы физики, либо самолеты будут летать где-нибудь в подпространстве. Тогда, возможно... wassat
    9. arane
      arane 22 September 2015 15: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.

      Sometimes I don’t understand the logic of minus signs! Here, probably, Jules would return would throw minuses for his nautilus at that time!

      Anyway. I'm about the optical range! I do not understand! Vision is the essence of active- passive radar!
      T e solar (or some other source) light is reflected from the object and enters the eye (receiver)! If reflection does not occur, then the eye will detect a lack of information from this section of the review (probably it will be a black spot)! The role can only be played by a sufficient distance of the eye from the object, when a light wave flows around the object due to refraction and the eye does not see it, but here no coatings are needed. In order to make an object invisible, it is necessary to project video information from the invisible side of the object (located behind it from the point of view of the eye) to the side facing the eye, i.e. to make the object seem to be transparent. Something like this

      Ours implemented this in a uniform for military personnel, while experimentally
    10. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 22 September 2015 18: 08 New
      0
      I see .... I’ll go in a shit ...
  2. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 September 2015 11: 05 New
    11
    While coverage works at certain frequencies, therefore, we urgently need $ 20 billion, and then another, and then another .. And then ... they will close this program as failed laughing
    1. mQn
      mQn 22 September 2015 11: 07 New
      0
      If you argue like you, then all science is a solid cut .....
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 22 September 2015 11: 13 New
        0
        Quote: mQn
        then all science is a solid cut.

        А як же, вот, например расхожее выражение "ученый - это человек, который удовлетворяет свое любопытство за счет общества".
    2. Login_Off
      Login_Off 22 September 2015 15: 45 New
      +1
      Give me a grant to cover aircraft from these conditions ...
      "...материал, который будет эффективен в широком диапазоне волн, - в том числе оптическом»"
      Я знаю как сделать покрытие "невидимое" в оптическом диапазоне волн!!!
      Всего 500 лямов баксов и я расскажу... ... как покрасить самолёт в чёрный цвет :) а то, что он на фоне будет "светится" это другое дело. Но ведь оптические волны будут поглощаться чёрной краской и не будут отражатся )))
  3. oberon 1
    oberon 1 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    0
    Everyone will find him evenly.
  4. A-Sim
    A-Sim 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    +1
    "Ты суслика видишь?" "Нет" "И я - нет" "А он - есть..."
  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    +1
    Another invisible hat, my grandmother told me about this. And I also believed in this miracle for some time.
  6. Observer2014
    Observer2014 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    +3
    In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible
    I, as I understand it, invisible from the US tax service, bravo !!!!!
  7. sever.56
    sever.56 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    +2
    In vain attempts again will lead to nothing, except for the next cut of the US military budget. Our new radars and EW stations operate in those bands that allow you to detect any existing and promising targets. And the passage that the plane is invisible, if it flies to a station at a certain degree, can cause nothing but laughter!
    1. Rader
      Rader 22 September 2015 11: 47 New
      +2
      Да же если устранят необходимость "пролетать под определенным углом" всё равно ничего путного у них не выйдет. В статье написано, что свойства покрытия зависят от его толщины( 3мм против излучения 3х сантиметрового). Но в сегодняшних реалиях, когда существуют десятки и сотни модификаций радаров, от милиметревого до метрового диапазона, такая "защита" будет мягко говоря малоэффективна...
  8. Redfox3k
    Redfox3k 22 September 2015 11: 08 New
    +4
    Какие ж всё-таки мерзкие твари америкашки а.... продолжают в духе "я тебя ударю, а ты меня - нет"
  9. RBLip
    RBLip 22 September 2015 11: 08 New
    +4
    immediately the bike is remembered:
    In the distant times, during the USSR, when the warring countries scrupulously tracked the latest in technology from each other, an article appeared in one of the foreign magazines that anti-radiation coatings for aircraft were being developed. The bottom line is: if a nuclear charge explodes near a flying plane, then neither a person, nor electronics will suffer from this.
    We immediately picked up at our tops, how is that? Abroad, but we do not? Disorder ... They gave a command and spun. Hastily formed 11 research institutes, allocated funds, specialists, etc. ... After lengthy trial and error, they invented. The only minus of this coating was that the paint during the flight from the friction against the atmosphere was covered. And the planes before each departure had to be covered with it again. In general, there is still where to work and where to grow.
    And then another council for a report gathered, and one of the professors dragged his student, a young genius and scholar. During the report, the student asked for words.
    The people were surprised. Who it? Why is there a student? But okay. The principal allowed the student to speak.
    And the student thoughtfully issued:
    - The damaging factors of a nuclear explosion that harm the aircraft and the pilot are hard radiation and an electromagnetic pulse. And they act at a relatively small distance from the epicenter.
    Good. You will develop a coating that protects the electronic filling and the pilot from these factors. But why aren't such damaging factors as light radiation and shock wave taken into account, from which the plane will die much faster and for which this coating does not play any role?
    The people were indignant. The people grabbed their heads. They shouted at the student, drove out ... And the project was closed as hopeless.
    After additional verification, it turned out that the article, which entailed so much cost and labor, was intentional misinformation ...
    laughing
    1. Observer2014
      Observer2014 22 September 2015 11: 15 New
      +5
      RBLip I ate honestly immediately remembered an excerpt from Suvorov's book. Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun; Traitor, fled to England. Therefore, excuse me, but I would not trust this shot.
      1. RBLip
        RBLip 22 September 2015 11: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: Observer2014
        RBLip I ate honestly immediately remembered an excerpt from Suvorov's book. Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun; Traitor, fled to England. Therefore, excuse me, but I would not trust this shot.

        therefore wrote - bike. грызуна читал одну книжонку (название не помню). но про эту самую краску слышал много раз и из разных источников. а грызун все эти байки пособрал и выдал. собиратель "народного" творчества...
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 22 September 2015 12: 50 New
          +2
          Вот вы и сами ответили на свой вопрос" но про эту самую краску слышал много раз и из разных источников. а грызун все эти байки пособрал и выдал. собиратель "народного" творчества..."

          Это из той же области что во время СССР нам втюхивали истории как японцы давали по 25 рублей "хозянам телевизоров мадэ ин япан"при их ремонте .Все эти байки нам втюхивали что бы нас развалить вот и всё .Без обид и с Уважением Наблюдатель 2014
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 22 September 2015 12: 49 New
      0
      Quote: RBLip
      immediately the bike is remembered:

      There is some truth here.
      I watched on TV how the Su-34 was being assembled, so there they sprayed some kind of transparent coating onto the cockpit lantern - they said it was protection against electromagnetic radiation.
      And you say tales ...
  10. Flinky
    Flinky 22 September 2015 11: 10 New
    -3
    “A material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which it is necessary to mask. On average, the wavelength of ship and missile radars is about three centimeters. The thickness of the coating, respectively, will be three millimeters "

    Another cut. Serdyukov nervously pisses in the corners ...
  11. biolant
    biolant 22 September 2015 11: 10 New
    +1
    Let them tell our anti-aircraft gunners)))
    It sounds almost like:
    "Если хочешь рассмешить бога - расскажи ему о своих планах на завтра"
  12. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 22 September 2015 11: 11 New
    +1
    So far, our coating works only with radiation at a specific frequency, but in the future we plan to create a material that will be effective in a wide range of waves, including optical

    The developers of the first stealth coatings also at first promised complete invisibility in all the working ranges of the radar.
    True, then it turned out that to achieve this, the coating thickness should reach centimeters, and the requirements for the forms of the aircraft forced aerodynamics specialists to cramp.
  13. Tusv
    Tusv 22 September 2015 11: 11 New
    +4
    And the Romans invented the invisibility long ago
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 22 September 2015 12: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: Tusv
      And the Romans invented the invisibility long ago

      I'm sitting at the computer now and I am completely invisible. True, theoretically, my dog ​​could see me, but she is sleeping now.
  14. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2015 11: 12 New
    +9
    We have invented it for a long time ... (In Ukraine, whole divisions cannot be found ..))) Searches for Poroshenko, searches for Yaytsenyukh, searches for Obama, etc. etc. Now the same story in Syria ..... bully
  15. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 September 2015 11: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: mQn
    If you argue like you, then all science is a solid cut .....

    Dear, my statement gives a little humor and applies only to the United States, since senators and congressmen receive good dividends from the production of weapons.
  16. Region 23
    Region 23 22 September 2015 11: 14 New
    -1
    Once the Americans claimed that the F-117 was invisible to enemy air defenses, but this American myth was scattered by the Serbs with the S-125 air defense system.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 September 2015 11: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Region 23
      Once the Americans claimed that the F-117 was invisible to enemy air defenses, but this American myth was scattered by the Serbs with the S-125 air defense system.

      EMNIP, S-125 worked on the optical (thermal imaging) channel - since the target was captured too late on the radar channel.
      In addition, there was a clean ambush for a plane traveling along a previously known route at approximately a certain time. In such conditions, the S-60 would work fine. smile
      1. Robinzone
        Robinzone 22 September 2015 11: 42 New
        0
        Well, Duc ate ​​the fires, and the S-400 is not the S-125, it seems. repeat
  17. Amurets
    Amurets 22 September 2015 11: 14 New
    +2
    Очередная несбыточная мечта.Уже такое было да для одной частоты это выполнимо.Но для всего спектра частот думаю не выполнимо.Пример,головка самонаведения ПЗРК "ВЕРБА" три диапазона тепловой головки самонаведения и самолёт уверенно захватывается.
  18. semuil
    semuil 22 September 2015 11: 15 New
    +2
    For every cunning w ... there is x ... with a thread.
  19. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 22 September 2015 11: 16 New
    +2
    Let them try. Anyway ... pu there is a sly bolt with a screw! )))
  20. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 22 September 2015 11: 16 New
    +1
    Вот бы покрыть такой пленкой свой автомобиль и может тогда можно будет сказать полицаям: "Ариведерчи!" lol
  21. raid14
    raid14 22 September 2015 11: 18 New
    0
    Сколько сил и средств потратило Мин. обороны СССР в 80-х годах на угрозу СОИ США? Вполне вероятно, что это "чудо изобретение" военная дезинформация или просто пшик.
  22. Gray 43
    Gray 43 22 September 2015 11: 22 New
    +1
    It seems that they came up with something similar in the USSR, and daaavno, this was some kind of special paint
  23. roskot
    roskot 22 September 2015 11: 25 New
    +2
    Many colors are good and different. But any has its own solvent.
  24. Russia
    Russia 22 September 2015 11: 29 New
    +3
    “A material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which it is necessary to mask. On average, the wavelength of ship and missile radars is about three centimeters. The coating thickness will accordingly be three millimeters ”,

    This pile of paint must be carried on yourself! No speed, no maneuver, no weapons.
    А если используют волну в 5 см, то уже покрытие в 0,5 см! А если волна "плавает" от 3-х до 15-ти см.! Это сколько-ж надо "намазать"?
    It is easier to immediately dig out the standard 2x2x1 m and hide there.
    In short - the next cut of green presidents.
  25. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 September 2015 11: 31 New
    0
    Scientifically, this is called the Brad Of Sif Cable.
    A coating that makes something invisible in the radio range should have a thickness of 1,5-2 m. If you do not mean invisibility in a narrow section of the entire range.
  26. Pacifist
    Pacifist 22 September 2015 11: 32 New
    +2
    But even this will not help invisible planes escape from the latest Russian low-frequency radars used in the S-400 and S-500 anti-aircraft missile systems

    Which does not eliminate the need for R&D in this area. Material science and, in general, research in the field of new materials is a breakthrough business. If such a solution appears, it is necessary to immediately accelerate work in this direction. Months of lag in such areas then spill over into years of strategic imbalance.
    1. andranick
      andranick 22 September 2015 11: 39 New
      +2
      Как Вам сто плюсов поставить, а? Могу только один. 100% согласен, вот только куда бы "чубайсов" деть...
      1. Pacifist
        Pacifist 22 September 2015 12: 11 New
        +1
        Thanks of course, but figs with them with pluses. If someone had heard, it would be the case, but the pros are like that, amuse yourself, tease others drinks

        And Chubais ... they have always been. They are also needed, for contrast, to understand how to do it is not worth it. Unfortunately, in large and complex projects this evil is inevitable, and necessary. The conflict of opposites, with proper process control, allows you to develop the most optimal solution. And the fact that the management and development of the state is an incredibly complex project, I think no one will argue. The ideal here is generally unattainable. I think she is tight. And they didn’t do that.
  27. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 September 2015 11: 32 New
    +6
    Новое русское оружие , трудно скопировать или произвести..."зеленые человечки , очень вежливые.."
  28. afrikanez
    afrikanez 22 September 2015 11: 33 New
    +1
    Interestingly, how much will a square centimeter of such a coating cost? I hope not the full price of the flying machine itself. laughing
  29. morpogr
    morpogr 22 September 2015 11: 35 New
    +3
    On any tricky bolt, there is always its own nut.
    1. Shuttle
      Shuttle 22 September 2015 14: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: morpogr
      On any tricky bolt, there is always its own nut.

      Oddly enough, but in the picture one of the ways to detect ANY invisible object. It consists in detecting not even the object itself, but the changes it makes in the environment.
      By the way, if someone does not remember, the essence of the whole stealth technology is to reduce the EPR (effective dispersion surface) of the protected object. The technology for calculating the models of this EPR is partially implemented by manufacturers of video cards and computer toys. This is nothing more than breaking up a complex surface into many small and easy-to-calculate triangles.
      Так что компьютерная анимация отчасти обязана этой самой стелс. А если еще точнее, то бывшему нашему соотечественнику, а теперь американцу Петру Яковлевичу Уфимцеву. Уфимцев не только придумал как сделать самолет "невидимым", но и как все равно увидеть его, даже если он "невидимый".
      1. gridasov
        gridasov 22 September 2015 16: 16 New
        0
        Любой летящий или иной объект обнаруживается в диапазоне излучаемого им эл. магнитного поля. Поэтому алгоритмы процесса должны быть совмещенными для этого объекта и станции обнаружения. Конечно же переведя поверхность самолета в иной диапазон , который формируется на его поверхности истечения по методологии "стелс"он будет малозаметен. Однако в диапазоне таких же параметров эл.магнитного излучения он будет как на ладошке. И такие условия, а точнее эквивалентные параметры эл. магнитного возмущения , создать совершенно не сложно. Тогда технологически можно расширяя диапазон можно фиксировать не только уровень современных динамических условий полета самолетов, но и НЛО.
  30. iouris
    iouris 22 September 2015 11: 35 New
    +1
    Пропаганда должна работать лучше. Сербы извинялись за уничтожение F-117: "Извините, мы не знали, что он невидимый".
  31. IAlex
    IAlex 22 September 2015 11: 38 New
    -2
    But even this will not help the stealth aircraft to escape from the newest Russian low-frequency radar systems used in the C-400 and C-500 anti-aircraft missile systems, which see the aircraft, ignoring stealth technology. The fifth generation fighter, the PAK FA, uses the Himalaya electronic warfare system integrated into the fuselage, and the high-altitude drone created by Sukhoi Design Bureau can find air targets while remaining imperceptible.


    Чувствуется измышление ура патриота, хоть я и не физик но понял как американская разработка работает... Зато в РФ стоит заявить "игнорируя стелс-технологии." и все проблемы сразу решаются. Чего бы так всем ура-патриотам не решить все проблемы от нехватки современной техники до проблем в экономике?
  32. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 September 2015 11: 40 New
    +1
    In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible

    For every Teflon coating of Americans, Russia has its own metal brush. Rest assured. wink laughing
  33. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 September 2015 11: 46 New
    0
    I hope the scientists of Russia are not asleep! And for every know-how of enemies in Russia there is a worthy answer! yes
  34. Denis DV
    Denis DV 22 September 2015 11: 48 New
    +2
    In Vietnam, from downed state aviation, peasants made pans. We can say that we took into account the wishes of the working people laughing added teflon drinks
  35. Tktyfern
    Tktyfern 22 September 2015 11: 51 New
    0
    The so-called self-civilized world is becoming more sophisticated in cruelty and violence against people and entire states. For each of their actions, the opposition is ripening, which will fall upon them. All according to the law of conservation of energy yes
  36. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 22 September 2015 11: 51 New
    +3
    You can deceive a person, but you can’t deceive physics. The wavelength ranges of radars begin with meters and end with millimeters, so it’s unrealistic to hide using coatings in all ranges.
  37. gridasov
    gridasov 22 September 2015 11: 53 New
    +1
    One must be completely illiterate to say so. Any object of movement, and especially in the near-Earth environment, has contact surfaces or surfaces of outflow. Therefore, there are no materials that could be called dielectrics. We can only talk about the level of technical capabilities that will allow us to perceive the potential that emits or disturbs the surface of a flying airplane. With all this, there is a method and a way to create an EMF in absolutely any material. And this means that the interpretation of the separation of substances and materials on the basis of electrical conductivity can be thrown into a landfill.
  38. Signaller
    Signaller 22 September 2015 11: 56 New
    0
    Well, of course, you can hide everything, only if there is a strip on the scorer’s tablet, then it will be opened anyway. Hide what is not working out. And so, who says, pay and you will be settled.
  39. tomket
    tomket 22 September 2015 11: 56 New
    -1
    and the high-altitude drone created by the specialists of the Sukhoi Design Bureau will be able to find air targets, while remaining invisible.
    Your Invisible Bullshit. And here is our invisible, all invisible invisible. This is the logic of the article ....
  40. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 22 September 2015 12: 03 New
    +1
    Storytellers, mlyn. This all reminds one of the fright of Gorbachev and others like him. With the F-35 they don’t know what to do, the dough has gone unnecessarily. They began to say that it was supposedly not for fights. And then why? Negroes in huts to bomb or what? Of course, if we, as in the USA, will teach physics, chemistry and mathematics, then for sure, ignoramuses will believe everything, although open the textbook and everything becomes clear. The USA was already scared with grasers (X-ray lasers), Humpbacked with blockheads was scared. lasers and the whole SOI, in a deep pope, in vain only a bastard hunchback signed agreements with them (also an ignoramus was illiterate).
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 22 September 2015 12: 20 New
      +1
      Well, after all!
      They talked a lot about the notorious Stealth. And in Serbia he was shot down by an old Soviet missile ...
  41. kostyan77708
    kostyan77708 22 September 2015 12: 04 New
    +1
    это можно перевести как дайте +100500 млрд $ и мы покроем этим покрытием все самолеты, а потом когда их "невидимые" чудосамолеты будут сбивать ПВО 70-80 годов разработки СССР скажут ну извините, так уж получилось,проект закроют, а денюжки тю-тю))) на этом и живет матрасия!
  42. Buffalo
    Buffalo 22 September 2015 12: 05 New
    +1
    Again the Yankees got into a puddle.
    An anecdote in the subject.
    An American spy landed with a parachute somewhere in the Vologda village.
    Quickly unhooked and hid the parachute, changed his clothes and went out onto the road, stopping a passing tractor:
    - GREAT, man!
    - GREAT, American intelligence!
    “How did you know that I was a scout?”
    -So, you are a Negro!
  43. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 September 2015 12: 07 New
    +2
    You can only become invisible to the enemy by blinding the latter, which is what our defenders are doing, moreover, successfully.
  44. dckx
    dckx 22 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +1
    По ходу чистый "фейк". Создали что-то размером с "блоху", и это что-то возможно и обладает описанными свойствами в особых лабораторных условиях, но вот до реализации на реальную технику ещё очень далеко. Любят вид "успешных" создавать.
  45. Frigate
    Frigate 22 September 2015 12: 22 New
    +1
    American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - a dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports
    Invisible to the eye is good for American warrant officers. They will come to them with a check, they say where are the fighters, and in return
    - Are you from Texas? They’re standing there, they say, know-how technology.))))
  46. YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 22 September 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    Che they come up with there !!! They can only come up with an invisible cover for the disappearance of money from the budget: there was a billion and op ... no, it became invisible! smile
  47. imugn
    imugn 22 September 2015 12: 24 New
    0
    The Americans probably do not know that for a very long time in service there will be surveillance radars with a wavelength of ~ 2 m.
  48. Neputin
    Neputin 22 September 2015 12: 25 New
    0
    Еще в 1936 году советский конструктор Бартини создал невидимый самолет. Источник - журнал "Изобретатель и рационализатор" за 1936 год. Самолет был сделан из оргстекла (родоид), покрытого с внутренней стороны амальгамой. Кроме этого, при запуске двигателя самолет выпускал вокруг себя голубоватый газ (состав не знаю). Это обеспечивало поразительный эффект невидимости в оптическом диапазоне. Наверняка и у нас есть подобные американским наработки, только их надо быстро доводить "до ума" и внедрять в серийное производство. А самое главное не допускать к ним Чубайса и К. Эти самки собаки либо бабло распилят, либо на запад толкнут.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 22 September 2015 13: 44 New
      +1
      Как вы недооцениваете Чубайса? Он сделает и то и то.Интересно, после смерти его в нанокапсулы превратят или рассеют по ветру как его "друга" Гайдара.
  49. SIMM
    SIMM 22 September 2015 12: 34 New
    +2
    После того, как оказалось, что их "невидимки", на самом деле вовсе и НЕ невидимки, а патриотичные боевики-то нужно продолжать снимать - вот вам "плащ-невидимка"...
    Imagine how our neighs ... Better let them hang CDs in the cockpit - infa 100% !!!)))
  50. guest arbeiter
    guest arbeiter 22 September 2015 12: 45 New
    -1
    the idea of ​​using ceramic resonators in stealth technology seems to me very productive and, of course, has the right to life
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 22 September 2015 13: 21 New
      0
      It is much easier to make surfaces with a controlled level of potential. It is easy to form separate e-mails on different planes. magnetic circuits, the potential of which will correspond not only to the specified conditions of ionization of the surface of the outflow from the flight speed, but also the potential of the beam directed at it from the ground.