In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible

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American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - a dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to the Army Times.



The stealth film is based on Teflon with microscopic ceramic cylinders integrated into its structure.

“The material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which to disguise. On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters. The coating thickness, accordingly, will be three millimeters, ”said the head of the project, Boubacar Kante of the University of California.

The currently used paints and films for airplanes use the same principle, but their thickness must be greater than the radar wavelength by an order of magnitude, which significantly increases the cost and weight of the aircraft.

“So far, our coverage works only with radiation at a specific frequency, but in the future we plan to create a material that will be effective in a wide wavelength range, including optical,” said Professor Kante.

At the moment, Teflon with ceramics is effective in the case of radiation falling at an angle of 42-48 degrees, that is, to use its wonderful properties, American aircraft must approach the radar strictly according to a certain course.

But even this will not help the stealth aircraft to escape from the newest Russian low-frequency radar systems used in the C-400 and C-500 anti-aircraft missile systems, which see the aircraft, ignoring stealth technology. The fifth generation fighter, the PAK FA, uses the Himalaya electronic warfare system integrated into the fuselage, and the high-altitude drone created by Sukhoi Design Bureau can find air targets while remaining imperceptible.
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  1. -11
    22 September 2015 11: 05
    The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.
    1. +6
      22 September 2015 11: 08
      Well ... Let’s take it into account! Oh, the USA wants to and is pricked ... laughing Well, you do not need to climb into Russia, there were few examples?
      1. +24
        22 September 2015 11: 11
        The F-117 pilot also thought so when he bombed Yugoslavia. But the Russian club hits without a miss.
        1. +1
          22 September 2015 11: 24
          Russian rusty ragadka brought down the latest of that time F117)
          1. 0
            22 September 2015 19: 22
            Fall not get up. Can you imagine what the airplanes will turn from 3mm paint? This is one-third of a cubic meter of paint, a kilo of 200 easily. And who and how will control the thickness? Little of,
            On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters.

            And on average? It must be exactly the same. And then we have half of the 2мм radar and the other half of 4, so on average 3 and nifiga will not work.
            1. 0
              22 September 2015 19: 33
              In fact, the whole trick is not in the depth of the paint layer, but in the dimensionality of the plane, which coincides or not, with the wavelength and speed of the aircraft and frequency parameters, we will say a ray of perturbation. Therefore, Ufimev also focused on the energy of the process. Or rather, dividing it into the part that is being analyzed and the one that is outside this process. And this second part is what many do not understand
            2. +1
              23 September 2015 00: 02
              Quote: crazyrom
              Fall not get up. Can you imagine what the airplanes will turn from 3mm paint? This is one-third of a cubic meter of paint, a kilo of 200 easily. And who and how will control the thickness? Little of,
              On average, the radar wavelength of ships and rockets is about three centimeters.

              And on average? It must be exactly the same. And then we have half of the 2мм radar and the other half of 4, so on average 3 and nifiga will not work.

              There is some kind of mishandled minus! And stupid to the same! 3 ship radar wavelength cm? I will go away with tears!
              Not, in principle, everything is correct, but for some reason they are silent that this is the range of navigation radars! Shooting stations, and especially airborne lighting stations, have a different wavelength, and therefore a different frequency! F = C / lambda, sorry, there is no such symbol in the list!
        2. +11
          22 September 2015 11: 54
          In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible


          Logically, this message should be crowned with the phrase: "Proven by British scientists."
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      2. +26
        22 September 2015 11: 17
        American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to the Army Times.
        Yes, I remember after watching "Star Wars" Ronnie Reagan arranged "SDI" ...
        Now Obama has apparently revised Predator ...

        P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? .. laughing
        1. +5
          22 September 2015 11: 35
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          Exceptionally stylistically poor, American obscene ...

          For there will be no other means after "cutting" ...
        2. +3
          22 September 2015 11: 40
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          And how stable will this "miracle" -coating be in flight ?!
          It’s one thing to test on earth, in statics, and in flight, at different heights,
          different temperatures and changing humidity?
          At high speeds, when exposed, it will not be visible either? And how much will it cost?
          Isn't it the same scarecrow as SOY (SOY) ?! wink
          1. +4
            22 September 2015 12: 09
            I especially liked the weather phenomenon - "oblyadenie".
            Excited! drinks

            Something from the series - B.L. himself, without an ensemble!
            1. +3
              22 September 2015 13: 35
              The dispatchers are the most outspoken ones, landing an invisible plane. And the pilots, when they start sticking into each other laughing
            2. 0
              22 September 2015 20: 33
              Yes, they will soon be making a mirror coating on all combat aircraft, with zero surface roughness, which will not be visible to the eye and there will be no cloaking.
        3. 0
          22 September 2015 11: 54
          In any case, an object will be invisible only from the hemisphere from which the radiation falls. From the ground he will be seen perfectly.
        4. mihasik
          +2
          22 September 2015 11: 54
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          The fan-diffuser will be installed on the back)
        5. +1
          22 September 2015 11: 55
          Sorry, I mistakenly set a minus, but the Predator, in my opinion, is still an example for them to follow, plus definitely ..... and the inversion trace will be cooled with a fan good
          1. 0
            22 September 2015 12: 20
            Balabamka will be put on the tail with a fan instead of a fan, so it will be cheaper.
        6. +2
          22 September 2015 12: 04
          American experts are really well aware of the only possible way to make planes invisible: FILL YOUR EYES! drinks Here they are following this path and FILL. tongue
        7. +4
          22 September 2015 12: 07
          The best way to hide a plane is to put it in a caponier.
          At the same time there will be no trace!
          I'm right?
          1. dsi
            0
            22 September 2015 12: 55
            The best way to hide a plane

            Hit him on the ground.
          2. +2
            22 September 2015 13: 36
            Quote: demo
            The best way to hide a plane is to put it in a caponier.
            At the same time there will be no trace!
            I'm right?

            Yes, but not completely.
            The best way to make an airplane invisible is to disassemble the airplane, i.e. cease its existence as an object.
            And no one can do it better than Russian air defense.

            "Sorry American, I didn't know he was invisible"
            © As if on behalf of Zoltan Dani.
        8. 0
          22 September 2015 12: 36
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

          Blue aerosol :)
        9. +1
          22 September 2015 13: 07
          Quote: Now we are free
          P.S. I wonder what kind of coating the Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft?

          In addition, they need to cover the plane's own radiation with a film .. And what about the "in the optical" range .. smile .. this scientist even knows the range of sunlight and its properties?
        10. +1
          22 September 2015 13: 15
          A witch will sit on the tail, and disperse this damned trail with a broom! laughing In general, they will now wash the dough on this paint 10-20 billions, then somewhere in the "mountains" of the "Zimbabwe" natives from the old Soviet slingshot will shoot down such a super invisible car !, and they admit it is not effective !!! they say sorry guys, she not visible only when it is in our hangar hi
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      4. 0
        22 September 2015 12: 05
        Well, we only hope for Chubais .. maybe he’ll also come up with a little film, 20 lards, instead of nano-asphalt .. wassat
      5. +2
        22 September 2015 12: 32
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Well ... Let’s take it into account! Oh, the USA wants to and is pricked ...

        Since our specialists are already talking about what it is made of and the principle of its operation, it means that we either developed it during the Union times, or we already have an "antidote", but the Americans still do not know about it laughing
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Well, you do not need to climb into Russia, there were few examples?

        From these last examples, P_i_n_d_o_stan didn’t get rich and gained weight in the world. They didn’t take the coals from the fire with their own hands ... and now they bite Europeans and mongrels like Georgia and Latvia.
      6. 0
        22 September 2015 22: 44
        Swam, we know ... this is another knocking out of budget money for the Pentagon to cut ...
    2. 0
      22 September 2015 11: 23
      I assure you that if someone approaches me at a certain angle and has a narrow field of view, then 4 mirrors will be enough for me to achieve the invisibility effect in the optical range. Another thing is, what kind of durak will fulfill these conditions?
    3. +6
      22 September 2015 11: 24
      For every cunning ass, there is a x ... with a thread! But we must pay tribute to the Americans - they created such conditions for scientists, scientific research, that the smartest heads of the planet Earth have been coming to them from all over the world for more than a century! Russia always rich in talents needs to finally understand - that the resale of gas, oil, jeans ... is quick and easy money without much income, and the greatness of the country lies in this - in science and high technology production!
      And in our department a candidate of sciences for 13 thousand, gives lectures ..., oh Mother Russia!
    4. +5
      22 September 2015 11: 25
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.


      The stealth film is based on Teflon with microscopic ceramic cylinders integrated into its structure.

      I'm not sure about invisibility, but the carcass of the Yankee pilot shot down by "Verboy" will not stick to the airplane's body precisely because of Teflon. tongue
    5. +3
      22 September 2015 11: 28
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.
      1. -5
        22 September 2015 11: 42
        Made in Japan
        1. +2
          22 September 2015 12: 01
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Made in Japan

          Did the Japanese come up with a projector?
          belay
          1. +2
            22 September 2015 12: 09
            Quote: GRAY
            Did the Japanese come up with a projector?

            They poked at the Lumiere brothers ...
          2. -4
            22 September 2015 13: 11
            Quote: GRAY
            Did the Japanese come up with a projector?

            No, it's just a raincoat, although many already have such crap.
            1. +2
              22 September 2015 13: 32
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              No, it's just a raincoat, although many already have such crap.

              At 0:32 it’s clear that there is a tripod with a camera behind the guy who takes the street, I assume that the projector is not shining on him, but just the image on the computer is being processed.
              This is just an illusion, not an invisibility cloak.
        2. -3
          22 September 2015 12: 05
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Made in Japan


          novels, you are still young, and in view of this, apparently you do not know that something like this was experienced in the USSR long before the Japanese.
          Moreover, full-scale experiments were carried out to advance, under such a "cover" of special forces groups to the aircraft captured by terrorists (of course, in the parking lot laughing ) ...

          But the whole thing rests on the fact that both the "Japanese miracle" and the USSR's achievements work only in statics ...

          Therefore, your faith in invisibility still remains faith in a fairy tale ...
          1. 0
            22 September 2015 13: 22
            Quote: Tanais
            But the whole thing rests on the fact that both the "Japanese miracle" and the USSR's achievements work only in statics ...

            But do not answer, what is the principle of the Japanese cloak? Well, due to what does he let himself through ???
            As for statics, any technology, especially complex one, takes time. Like a simple radio, for example, it was recognized as the most useless invention in its time.

            Yes, and on the basis of the USSR facts in the studio
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              1. -2
                22 September 2015 13: 53
                Quote: GRAY
                It does not let light in at all, the cloak acts as a screen on which the image is simply projected

                Yes, due to micro screens. It was possible to write without a mat.
    6. +1
      22 September 2015 12: 47
      Fresh tradition, but hard to believe. As with the invisibility in the decimeter range, that with the thermal invisibility of the engines. Where to hide the inversion trace ??? Bullshit is shorter.
    7. +1
      22 September 2015 13: 35
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.


      A fairy tale and a fairy tale so that children would believe in it, and adult uncles should know physics. And physics today says that it is possible to reduce radar visibility, but under certain conditions and a certain range and for certain surveillance systems (as you can see, we are not talking about complete invisibility), i.e. for every tricky bolt there is a tricky nut (with a certain development of science, this is only a matter of time, and not very big).
      1. -2
        22 September 2015 13: 43
        Quote: user
        A fairy tale and a fairy tale so that children would believe in it, and adult uncles should know physics.

        Why doesn't your nichrome physics work?
        Explain it and get a Nobel wink
        1. +1
          22 September 2015 13: 54
          Explain it and get a Nobel


          To explain such things, you need to thoroughly study this problem both theoretically and "on the ground", but such things sometimes happen usually due to an incomplete study of the problem, sometimes due to a lack of knowledge of a particular case. Suffice it to recall the Kursk magnetic anamaly, and after all, not even 200 years have passed when the whole of Europe was puzzling over this problem, the more recent is a large crater from an explosion on Yamal (yes, there were many such cases, and in this particular case, an enterprising people on this already make money)
          1. 0
            22 September 2015 14: 14
            Quote: user
            To explain such things, you need to thoroughly study this problem both theoretically and "on the ground", but such things sometimes happen usually due to an incomplete study of the problem, sometimes due to a lack of knowledge of a particular case.


            And sometimes the intrigues of Coperfield lol
          2. -2
            22 September 2015 14: 19
            Quote: user
            To explain such things, you need to thoroughly study this problem both theoretically and "on the ground"

            Groups of scientists are there for days, but cannot understand why.
            Quote: user
            sometimes due to lack of knowledge of a particular case.

            Aha, that is, knowledge is not enough for humanity to understand.
            Quote: user
            and in this particular case, enterprising people earn money on this

            Yes, why not. If scientists think that they already know everything. Science is only 100 by and large. Or they created a jet engine, split the atom, flew into space and thought we knew everything. Naivety is the main enemy of the scientist
        2. 0
          22 September 2015 15: 25
          Bazhenov must sometimes watch.
        3. 0
          22 September 2015 22: 51
          in my opinion everything is corny, to repeat this miracle you will need a rope and a magnet, and of course a hacksaw for metal))
    8. +4
      22 September 2015 14: 31
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.

      Colleague, how old are you? Such a big boy, but believes in fairy tales ...
      A physics course for high school, a maximum of the second year of a technical university - effective radiation is possible at a radiator size commensurate with the emitted wavelength. All! Arrived!
      On submarines, the rubber (for impedance matching) coating is thick. frequencies are low and very low. For aircraft, the frequencies are, of course, higher. BUT: the range is wide! And air is not water! Radar radiation losses can be slightly increased. In a narrow range. Mostly when targeting, not detecting. And to make something invisible in the optical range is a fairy tale. Of course, "We were born to make a fairy tale come true! ..." But not right now. We'll have to wait a bit. When either new laws of physics are discovered, or planes will fly somewhere in subspace. Then maybe ... wassat
    9. +1
      22 September 2015 15: 55
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The invisible hat was once a fairy tale, and will soon become a reality.

      Sometimes I don’t understand the logic of minus signs! Here, probably, Jules would return would throw minuses for his nautilus at that time!

      Anyway. I'm about the optical range! I do not understand! Vision is the essence of active- passive radar!
      T e solar (or some other source) light is reflected from the object and enters the eye (receiver)! If reflection does not occur, then the eye will detect a lack of information from this section of the review (probably it will be a black spot)! The role can only be played by a sufficient distance of the eye from the object, when a light wave flows around the object due to refraction and the eye does not see it, but here no coatings are needed. In order to make an object invisible, it is necessary to project video information from the invisible side of the object (located behind it from the point of view of the eye) to the side facing the eye, i.e. to make the object seem to be transparent. Something like this

      Ours implemented this in a uniform for military personnel, while experimentally
    10. 0
      22 September 2015 18: 08
      I see .... I’ll go in a shit ...
  2. +11
    22 September 2015 11: 05
    While coverage works at certain frequencies, therefore, we urgently need $ 20 billion, and then another, and then another .. And then ... they will close this program as failed laughing
    1. mQn
      0
      22 September 2015 11: 07
      If you argue like you, then all science is a solid cut .....
      1. 0
        22 September 2015 11: 13
        Quote: mQn
        then all science is a solid cut.

        And yak, for example, the popular expression "a scientist is a person who satisfies his curiosity at the expense of society."
    2. +1
      22 September 2015 15: 45
      Give me a grant to cover aircraft from these conditions ...
      "... a material that will be effective in a wide wavelength range - including optical" "
      I know how to make an "invisible" coating in the optical wavelength range !!!
      Only 500 lam bucks and I'll tell you ... ... how to paint an airplane black :) but the fact that it "shines" in the background is another matter. But after all, optical waves will be absorbed by black paint and will not be reflected)))
  3. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 06
    Everyone will find him evenly.
  4. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 06
    "Do you see a gopher?" "No" "And I - no" "And he is ..."
  5. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 06
    Another invisible hat, my grandmother told me about this. And I also believed in this miracle for some time.
  6. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 06
    In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible
    I, as I understand it, invisible from the US tax service, bravo !!!!!
  7. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 06
    In vain attempts again will lead to nothing, except for the next cut of the US military budget. Our new radars and EW stations operate in those bands that allow you to detect any existing and promising targets. And the passage that the plane is invisible, if it flies to a station at a certain degree, can cause nothing but laughter!
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 11: 47
      Yes, if the need to "fly at a certain angle" is eliminated, they will still fail to do anything good. The article says that the properties of the coating depend on its thickness (3mm versus 3cm radiation). But in today's realities, when there are tens and hundreds of radar modifications, from millimeter to meter range, such "protection" will be ineffective to put it mildly ...
  8. +4
    22 September 2015 11: 08
    What are all the same vile American creatures and .... continue in the spirit of "I will hit you, but you will not me"
  9. +4
    22 September 2015 11: 08
    immediately the bike is remembered:
    In the distant times, during the USSR, when the warring countries scrupulously tracked the latest in technology from each other, an article appeared in one of the foreign magazines that anti-radiation coatings for aircraft were being developed. The bottom line is: if a nuclear charge explodes near a flying plane, then neither a person, nor electronics will suffer from this.
    We immediately picked up at our tops, how is that? Abroad, but we do not? Disorder ... They gave a command and spun. Hastily formed 11 research institutes, allocated funds, specialists, etc. ... After lengthy trial and error, they invented. The only minus of this coating was that the paint during the flight from the friction against the atmosphere was covered. And the planes before each departure had to be covered with it again. In general, there is still where to work and where to grow.
    And then another council for a report gathered, and one of the professors dragged his student, a young genius and scholar. During the report, the student asked for words.
    The people were surprised. Who it? Why is there a student? But okay. The principal allowed the student to speak.
    And the student thoughtfully issued:
    - The damaging factors of a nuclear explosion that harm the aircraft and the pilot are hard radiation and an electromagnetic pulse. And they act at a relatively small distance from the epicenter.
    Good. You will develop a coating that protects the electronic filling and the pilot from these factors. But why aren't such damaging factors as light radiation and shock wave taken into account, from which the plane will die much faster and for which this coating does not play any role?
    The people were indignant. The people grabbed their heads. They shouted at the student, drove out ... And the project was closed as hopeless.
    After additional verification, it turned out that the article, which entailed so much cost and labor, was intentional misinformation ...
    laughing
    1. +5
      22 September 2015 11: 15
      RBLip I ate honestly immediately remembered an excerpt from Suvorov's book. Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun; Traitor, fled to England. Therefore, excuse me, but I would not trust this shot.
      1. +1
        22 September 2015 11: 36
        Quote: Observer2014
        RBLip I ate honestly immediately remembered an excerpt from Suvorov's book. Vladimir Bogdanovich Rezun; Traitor, fled to England. Therefore, excuse me, but I would not trust this shot.

        therefore wrote - bike... rodent read one little book (I do not remember the name). but I heard about this very paint many times and from different sources. and the rodent collected all these stories and gave them away. collector of "folk" art ...
        1. +2
          22 September 2015 12: 50
          So you yourself answered your own question "but I heard about this very paint many times and from different sources. And the rodent collected all these stories and gave them away. The collector of" folk "creativity ..."

          This is from the same area that during the Soviet Union we were told stories of how the Japanese gave 25 rubles to "the owners of made in yapan TVs" when they were repaired. All these stories were pushed to us to ruin us, that's all. No offense and with respect Observer 2014
    2. 0
      22 September 2015 12: 49
      Quote: RBLip
      immediately the bike is remembered:

      There is some truth here.
      I watched on TV how the Su-34 was being assembled, so there they sprayed some kind of transparent coating onto the cockpit lantern - they said it was protection against electromagnetic radiation.
      And you say tales ...
  10. -3
    22 September 2015 11: 10
    “A material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which it is necessary to mask. On average, the wavelength of ship and missile radars is about three centimeters. The thickness of the coating, respectively, will be three millimeters "

    Another cut. Serdyukov nervously pisses in the corners ...
  11. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 10
    Let them tell our anti-aircraft gunners)))
    It sounds almost like:
    "If you want to make God laugh, tell him about your plans for tomorrow."
  12. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 11
    So far, our coating works only with radiation at a specific frequency, but in the future we plan to create a material that will be effective in a wide range of waves, including optical

    The developers of the first stealth coatings also at first promised complete invisibility in all the working ranges of the radar.
    True, then it turned out that to achieve this, the coating thickness should reach centimeters, and the requirements for the forms of the aircraft forced aerodynamics specialists to cramp.
  13. +4
    22 September 2015 11: 11
    And the Romans invented the invisibility long ago
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 12: 55
      Quote: Tusv
      And the Romans invented the invisibility long ago

      I'm sitting at the computer now and I am completely invisible. True, theoretically, my dog ​​could see me, but she is sleeping now.
  14. +9
    22 September 2015 11: 12
    We have invented it for a long time ... (In Ukraine, whole divisions cannot be found ..))) Searches for Poroshenko, searches for Yaytsenyukh, searches for Obama, etc. etc. Now the same story in Syria ..... bully
  15. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 12
    Quote: mQn
    If you argue like you, then all science is a solid cut .....

    Dear, my statement gives a little humor and applies only to the United States, since senators and congressmen receive good dividends from the production of weapons.
  16. -1
    22 September 2015 11: 14
    Once the Americans claimed that the F-117 was invisible to enemy air defenses, but this American myth was scattered by the Serbs with the S-125 air defense system.
    1. 0
      22 September 2015 11: 22
      Quote: Region 23
      Once the Americans claimed that the F-117 was invisible to enemy air defenses, but this American myth was scattered by the Serbs with the S-125 air defense system.

      EMNIP, S-125 worked on the optical (thermal imaging) channel - since the target was captured too late on the radar channel.
      In addition, there was a clean ambush for a plane traveling along a previously known route at approximately a certain time. In such conditions, the S-60 would work fine. smile
      1. 0
        22 September 2015 11: 42
        Well, Duc ate ​​the fires, and the S-400 is not the S-125, it seems. feel
  17. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 14
    Another unrealizable dream. It was already possible for one frequency. But for the entire frequency spectrum, I think it is not feasible. For example, the seeker head of MANPADS "VERBA" has three ranges of thermal seeker and the plane is confidently captured.
  18. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 15
    For every cunning w ... there is x ... with a thread.
  19. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 16
    Let them try. Anyway ... pu there is a sly bolt with a screw! )))
  20. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 16
    That would be to cover your car with such a film, and maybe then it will be possible to say to the policemen: "Arivederchi!" lol
  21. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 18
    How much effort and money did Min. defense of the USSR in the 80s against the US SDI threat? It is likely that this is a "miracle invention" military disinformation or just zilch.
  22. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 22
    It seems that they came up with something similar in the USSR, and daaavno, this was some kind of special paint
  23. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 25
    Many colors are good and different. But any has its own solvent.
  24. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 29
    “A material works if its thickness is one tenth of the wavelength from which it is necessary to mask. On average, the wavelength of ship and missile radars is about three centimeters. The coating thickness will accordingly be three millimeters ”,

    This pile of paint must be carried on yourself! No speed, no maneuver, no weapons.
    And if you use a wave of 5 cm, then the coverage is 0,5 cm! And if the wave "floats" from 3 to 15 cm! How much should you "smear"?
    It is easier to immediately dig out the standard 2x2x1 m and hide there.
    In short - the next cut of green presidents.
  25. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 31
    Scientifically, this is called the Brad Of Sif Cable.
    A coating that makes something invisible in the radio range should have a thickness of 1,5-2 m. If you do not mean invisibility in a narrow section of the entire range.
  26. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 32
    But even this will not help invisible planes escape from the latest Russian low-frequency radars used in the S-400 and S-500 anti-aircraft missile systems

    Which does not eliminate the need for R&D in this area. Material science and, in general, research in the field of new materials is a breakthrough business. If such a solution appears, it is necessary to immediately accelerate work in this direction. Months of lag in such areas then spill over into years of strategic imbalance.
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 11: 39
      How do you put a hundred pluses, eh? I can only have one. 100% agree, that's just where to put the "Chubais" ...
      1. +1
        22 September 2015 12: 11
        Thanks of course, but figs with them with pluses. If someone had heard, it would be the case, but the pros are like that, amuse yourself, tease others drinks

        And Chubais ... they have always been. They are also needed, for contrast, to understand how to do it is not worth it. Unfortunately, in large and complex projects this evil is inevitable, and necessary. The conflict of opposites, with proper process control, allows you to develop the most optimal solution. And the fact that the management and development of the state is an incredibly complex project, I think no one will argue. The ideal here is generally unattainable. I think she is tight. And they didn’t do that.
  27. +6
    22 September 2015 11: 32
    New Russian weapons, difficult to copy or produce ... "little green men, very polite .."
  28. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 33
    Interestingly, how much will a square centimeter of such a coating cost? I hope not the full price of the flying machine itself. laughing
  29. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 35
    On any tricky bolt, there is always its own nut.
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 14: 00
      Quote: morpogr
      On any tricky bolt, there is always its own nut.

      Oddly enough, but in the picture one of the ways to detect ANY invisible object. It consists in detecting not even the object itself, but the changes it makes in the environment.
      By the way, if someone does not remember, the essence of the whole stealth technology is to reduce the EPR (effective dispersion surface) of the protected object. The technology for calculating the models of this EPR is partially implemented by manufacturers of video cards and computer toys. This is nothing more than breaking up a complex surface into many small and easy-to-calculate triangles.
      So the computer animation is partly due to this very stealth. And to be more precise, to our former compatriot, and now an American, Pyotr Yakovlevich Ufimtsev. Ufimtsev not only figured out how to make the plane "invisible", but also how to see it anyway, even if it is "invisible".
      1. 0
        22 September 2015 16: 16
        Any flying or other object is detected in the range of emitted email. magnetic field. Therefore, the process algorithms must be combined for this object and the detection station. Of course, by transferring the surface of the aircraft to a different range, which is formed on its surface of the outflow by the "stealth" methodology, it will be hardly noticeable. However, in the range of the same parameters of electric magnetic radiation, it will be at a glance. And such conditions, or rather the equivalent email parameters. magnetic disturbance is not difficult to create at all. Then, technologically, it is possible to expand the range, it is possible to record not only the level of modern dynamic conditions of aircraft flight, but also UFOs.
  30. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 35
    Advocacy should work better. The Serbs apologized for the destruction of the F-117: "Sorry, we didn't know he was invisible."
  31. -2
    22 September 2015 11: 38
    But even this will not help the stealth aircraft to escape from the newest Russian low-frequency radar systems used in the C-400 and C-500 anti-aircraft missile systems, which see the aircraft, ignoring stealth technology. The fifth generation fighter, the PAK FA, uses the Himalaya electronic warfare system integrated into the fuselage, and the high-altitude drone created by Sukhoi Design Bureau can find air targets while remaining imperceptible.


    One can feel the invention of a patriot hurray, although I am not a physicist, but I understood how the American development works ... But in the Russian Federation it is worth saying "ignoring stealth technologies." and all problems are immediately resolved. Why should not all jingo-patriots solve all the problems from the lack of modern technology to the problems in the economy?
  32. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 40
    In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible

    For every Teflon coating of Americans, Russia has its own metal brush. Rest assured. wink laughing
  33. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 46
    I hope the scientists of Russia are not asleep! And for every know-how of enemies in Russia there is a worthy answer! Yes
  34. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 48
    In Vietnam, from downed state aviation, peasants made pans. We can say that we took into account the wishes of the working people laughing added teflon drinks
  35. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 51
    The so-called self-civilized world is becoming more sophisticated in cruelty and violence against people and entire states. For each of their actions, the opposition is ripening, which will fall upon them. All according to the law of conservation of energy Yes
  36. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 51
    You can deceive a person, but you can’t deceive physics. The wavelength ranges of radars begin with meters and end with millimeters, so it’s unrealistic to hide using coatings in all ranges.
  37. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 53
    One must be completely illiterate to say so. Any object of movement, and especially in the near-Earth environment, has contact surfaces or surfaces of outflow. Therefore, there are no materials that could be called dielectrics. We can only talk about the level of technical capabilities that will allow us to perceive the potential that emits or disturbs the surface of a flying airplane. With all this, there is a method and a way to create an EMF in absolutely any material. And this means that the interpretation of the separation of substances and materials on the basis of electrical conductivity can be thrown into a landfill.
  38. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 56
    Well, of course, you can hide everything, only if there is a strip on the scorer’s tablet, then it will be opened anyway. Hide what is not working out. And so, who says, pay and you will be settled.
  39. -1
    22 September 2015 11: 56
    and the high-altitude drone created by the specialists of the Sukhoi Design Bureau will be able to find air targets, while remaining invisible.
    Your Invisible Bullshit. And here is our invisible, all invisible invisible. This is the logic of the article ....
  40. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 03
    Storytellers, mlyn. This all reminds one of the fright of Gorbachev and others like him. With the F-35 they don’t know what to do, the dough has gone unnecessarily. They began to say that it was supposedly not for fights. And then why? Negroes in huts to bomb or what? Of course, if we, as in the USA, will teach physics, chemistry and mathematics, then for sure, ignoramuses will believe everything, although open the textbook and everything becomes clear. The USA was already scared with grasers (X-ray lasers), Humpbacked with blockheads was scared. lasers and the whole SOI, in a deep pope, in vain only a bastard hunchback signed agreements with them (also an ignoramus was illiterate).
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 12: 20
      Well, after all!
      They talked a lot about the notorious Stealth. And in Serbia he was shot down by an old Soviet missile ...
  41. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 04
    this can be translated as give +100500 billion $ and we will cover all the aircraft with this coating, and then when their "invisible" miracle planes shoot down the air defense of the 70-80s of the development of the USSR, they will say well, sorry, it just so happened, the project will be closed, but denyuzhki bye ))) Mattress lives on this!
  42. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 05
    Again the Yankees got into a puddle.
    An anecdote in the subject.
    An American spy landed with a parachute somewhere in the Vologda village.
    Quickly unhooked and hid the parachute, changed his clothes and went out onto the road, stopping a passing tractor:
    - GREAT, man!
    - GREAT, American intelligence!
    “How did you know that I was a scout?”
    -So, you are a Negro!
  43. +2
    22 September 2015 12: 07
    You can only become invisible to the enemy by blinding the latter, which is what our defenders are doing, moreover, successfully.
  44. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 20
    In the course of a clean "fake". They created something the size of a "flea", and this something is possible and possesses the described properties in special laboratory conditions, but it is still very far from implementation on real equipment. They love the kind of "successful" to create.
  45. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 22
    American specialists managed to develop a thin coating - a dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only for radar systems, but also for the human eye, reports
    Invisible to the eye is good for American warrant officers. They will come to them with a check, they say where are the fighters, and in return
    - Are you from Texas? They’re standing there, they say, know-how technology.))))
  46. +1
    22 September 2015 12: 23
    Che they come up with there !!! They can only come up with an invisible cover for the disappearance of money from the budget: there was a billion and op ... no, it became invisible! smile
  47. 0
    22 September 2015 12: 24
    The Americans probably do not know that for a very long time in service there will be surveillance radars with a wavelength of ~ 2 m.
  48. 0
    22 September 2015 12: 25
    Back in 1936, Soviet designer Bartini created an invisible plane. Source - the magazine "Inventor and rationalizer" for 1936. The plane was made of plexiglass (rhodoid), covered with amalgam on the inside. In addition, when the engine was started, the plane released a bluish gas around it (I do not know the composition). This provided a striking invisibility effect in the optical range. Surely we also have similar American developments, only they need to be quickly brought to mind and introduced into mass production. And the most important thing is not to allow Chubais and K. These female dogs will either saw the loot or push them westward.
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 13: 44
      How do you underestimate Chubais? He will do both. Interestingly, after his death, he will be turned into nanocapsules or scattered in the wind as his "friend" Gaidar.
  49. +2
    22 September 2015 12: 34
    After it turned out that their "invisible", in fact, are NOT invisible at all, and patriotic militants must continue to be removed - here's an "invisibility cloak" ...
    Imagine how our neighs ... Better let them hang CDs in the cockpit - infa 100% !!!)))
  50. -1
    22 September 2015 12: 45
    the idea of ​​using ceramic resonators in stealth technology seems to me very productive and, of course, has the right to life
    1. 0
      22 September 2015 13: 21
      It is much easier to make surfaces with a controlled level of potential. It is easy to form separate e-mails on different planes. magnetic circuits, the potential of which will correspond not only to the specified conditions of ionization of the surface of the outflow from the flight speed, but also the potential of the beam directed at it from the ground.
  51. -1
    22 September 2015 12: 55
    In the US, developed a coating for aviation, making it invisible
    belay
    Wait and see. Yes Although what ...What if it's true? sad Well then: there’s something with a screw for your cunning ass. Which in translation from Armenian means: still volume. Yes
  52. +1
    22 September 2015 13: 25
    Quote: Now we are free
    P.S. I wonder what coating Americans are going to cover the inversion trace from their aircraft? ..

    They will launch it from a large slingshot or catapult wassat
  53. +1
    22 September 2015 13: 46
    To demonstrate this miracle paint, the article contains a photo of three aircraft.
  54. Bor
    0
    22 September 2015 15: 28
    Once upon a time there was a confrontation between armor and caliber. Now there are "invisible" technologies and radars. Eternal topic. There will be no winners.
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 16: 59
      Sorry, but you need to be corrected. Anyone who masters the basics of new technologies will always be one step ahead, at least in terms of development time. Therefore, it seems that he is not a winner, but still ahead. And now this is very important.
  55. 0
    22 September 2015 18: 47
    American specialists have managed to develop a thin coating - a dielectric material - for military aircraft, which makes them invisible not only to radar systems, but also to the human eye.
    Rave. Well, how long can you mindlessly reprint all sorts of nonsense?
  56. 0
    23 September 2015 01: 07
    When testing a new invisible plane, there was an embarrassment, the pilots could not find a smolet

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