TSAMTO: India purchases Apache and Chinook helicopters

After 3-year-old reflections and 13 extensions, the Ministry of Finance of India finally approved the purchase of XHUMX attack helicopters AH-22D Apache and 64 heavy transport helicopters CH-15F Chinook, reports TSAMTO.

The total transaction value is estimated at $ 3,1 billion.

The government security committee is expected to approve the purchase on Tuesday before the Indian Prime Minister leaves for the UN General Assembly session.

“Apache” and “Chinuk” were declared winners of tenders as early as 2012, negotiations on them ended at the end of 2013. However, the Defense Ministry then could not pay an advance of about 15% of the cost. The financial capacity of the department has deteriorated due to the redirection of $ 2 billion, intended for the purchase of weapons, to provide current expenses.

In turn, Boeing, which has repeatedly extended the validity of the offer, threatened to increase prices by 40% if the issue is not resolved until the end of September.

According to the newspaper, the Apaches will be acquired along with the 8 of the thousands of Hellfire ATGMs.

According to Indian sources, “currently there are three Russian Mi-26 heavy helicopters in service with the Indian Air Force, only one of which is serviceable, and six of the Mi-26 / 25 attack helicopters from 35 are in storage, the others have been in service” .

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[Armored optimist]

And they say that only we have corruption.

[Afinogen]

Quote: armored optimist

And they say that only we have corruption.

Corruption is everywhere, it is a common evil.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!

[The boat]

Quote: MIKHAN

You will regret it later!

urgently sanctions against Indians: close our film market for Bollywood !!! To write yoga through "Yo" !!!! Reduce tourist flow by introducing compulsory vaccination of tourists !!! The wrong ones were contacted, the Upanishads are fucking !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: MIKHAN

Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!

Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache, and especially radar, target designation systems, etc., and draw conclusions.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: NEXUS

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Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache, and especially radar, target designation systems, etc., and draw conclusions.

why on earth? India is a superpower, not a satellite of Russia, and it probably buys weapons with a number of restrictions on technology transfer.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

India is a superpower, not a satellite of Russia,

And in my post even a word is that India is our satellite?

Quote: Aron Zaavi

for what reason?

For the same reason we TOGETHER build a 5th generation fighter, we produce BrahMoses, and so on ... as long as my memory serves me, India, since the days of Indira Gandhi, we, like the hut from a fairy tale, have not turned our backs. our military-industrial complex in the 90s was breathing, the Indians placed orders at our plants and enterprises.

Quote: Aron Zaavi

and she’s probably buying weapons with a number of restrictions on technology transfer.

Familiarity with even truncated Western technology will be useful to us. Or do you think otherwise?

[marshes]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Aaron Zawi

Sholom, with the past holiday.
I have a question about Chinook, you are familiar with this technique.
In the event of a failure of one of the engines, it seems that the second one transfers part of the energy, something like that, to the failed engine? What would be the opportunity to land the car.

[The boat]

Quote: NEXUS

Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache

ha ha, who will let them pick their apaches?

[Throw]

Apaches have long been picking, do not worry. And not just us.

[The boat]

Quote: Lance

Apaches have long been picking, do not worry. And not just us.

not the point. Comrade sure

Quote: NEXUS

Our specialists in India

have the highest level of admission - from the Bollywood pavilions to the premier’s bedroom. O_o ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Das Boot

not the point. Comrade sure

And you, by your naivety, comrade, believe that the BrahMos and the Indian version of PAK FA are being built by the Indians themselves? Well, well ...
And I did not speak about all Apache, but about RADAR and some other systems ...

[The boat]

Quote: NEXUS

And you, by your naivety, comrade, believe that the BrahMos and the Indian version of PAK FA are being built by the Indians themselves? Well, well ...

Oh my god! Of course, our specialists! And besides the construction of the Indian PAK FA, do other people's secrets have time to dig? And what - I admit ...

[Throw]

Yes, India is not the point! Our intelligence not only works there. See where the Apaches are armed

[Now we are free]

Greetings Broneoptimist.

Quote: armored optimist

And they say that only we have corruption.

And what does corruption have to do with it? The Hindus are simply pushing the Americans in their direction. Specifically, on the purchase, we can say that the Indians most likely decided to follow the path of the Saudis - to buy weapons from that country for the loyalty they expect. Russia also defends its interests, the Indians could buy instead of the Apaches the Russian Mi-28, Mi-35, Ka-52? Could ... And instead of "Chinook" Mi-26? Could ...
Well, what is India’s choice, now don’t be offended if Pakistan gets a new batch of Russian Mi-35s, if not Mi-28s at all.

Nothing personal Hindus and yes -Indi-Rus phai-phai!

[Armored optimist]

"The Hindus have most likely decided to follow the path of the Saudis -Buying arms from that country for the loyalty they expect."
In the sense of the United States loyal to India? A new word in political science!

[siberalt]

Well, let him fly on Chingachguk. They are not our enemies.

[Armored optimist]

Chinook is not an Indian. Chinook is a chicken.

[saenara]

Chinook is the same wind.

[War and Peace]

Che Indians decided to buy all the helicopters in the world? and ka226, and mi17, and chinooks, and Apaches, there is nowhere to put money ...

[marlin1203]

That will compare ... And there, and not far to the new tender

[Sasha75]

Let them feel the difference and think that it’s a little sanction and they will buy parts through third countries if they sell a lot of American equipment in Venezuela, three expensive, but there are no spare parts, and we had to buy tricky equipment from us twice, sometimes three times.

[Buffalo]

India has once again shown itself to be extremely capricious and unreliable ally. They traded with us for every penny, using unfavorable conditions; for us, Americans are dumped without looking, a lot of money.
Forgot what you owe to Russia!

[captain]

Well, you won’t be full of gratitude, but the fact that our guys in the KLA at one time splashed world trends is a fact. Our service is weak, we have not learned how to sell, Peter is right for merchants sec for thoughtless greed.

[veksha50]

Quote: Bison

Forgot what you owe to Russia!

Than ??? By and large - than ???

[The boat]

Quote: Bison

Forgot what you owe to Russia!

stop whining already that everyone around us owes. Hindus then?

[Mixweb]

How are Russian helicopters not happy with the Indians? Both in price and quality are better than American ones.

[donavi49]

Well, at least a massive bunch of radar + ATGM.

Apache Longbow has it, especially since the Indians are already buying with the new radar and Maverick.

Ka-52 has a good radar, even better in characteristics than Apache (corny because of the larger canvas). But there is no ATGM. Moreover, Ka-52 is currently approved only for the use of NURSs.

Mi-28Н does not have a developed radar, and at the time of selection (2012), in general there was only a mock-up with promises to do everything. Now the first radar vehicles were delivered only this year (Iraq - 2 vehicles + the main headboard for Algeria will be given up by the end of the year), while with trial operation and wagon restrictions. And again, there are no ATGMs. Not mock-ups, but serial ones, with tolerances and an example of work in the combat unit.

[veksha50]

It seems to me that this behavior of India in the procurement of air force equipment is due to the fact that they are trying to influence Russia in matters of the SU-35 and the future PAK FA ... They want a lot from us right away ... But there was a deflection in front of the states. ..

Some unpleasant aftertaste from this deal ...

[Alexey-74]

both ours and yours are shorter ... well, the Indians in their repertoire

[chikenous59]

8000 ATGM is this much to them ?? 250 missiles per helicopter. Just like going to war

[Alexey RA]

Quote: chikenous59

8000 ATGM is this much to them ?? 250 missiles per helicopter. Just like going to war

Shrinkage and utruska during storage.

There was also a story with the "Krasnopols", when the Indians, a couple of years after the purchase, put forward a claim for low-quality shells. They began to understand and found out that the Indians had saved money by purchasing shells from us in the usual version, moreover, they stored them in open areas, often even without a canopy. Although the documents clearly stated: storage is a warehouse with a certain temperature range and a certain maximum humidity.

[tyras85]

A frail partner. With an unpredictable policy! Go together, only in the wake of Russian interests! ONLY
RUSSIAN!

[The boat]

Quote: tyras85

Go together, only in the wake of Russian interests! ONLY
RUSSIAN!

why the hell to the Indians whose interests besides their own?

[superoper]

in a big family .... oh don’t click-whoever managed to eat it

[prosto_rgb]

Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!

So it’s their national peculiarity that they collect the hodgepodge from all over the world, and somehow manage to exploit it.

[The boat]

Quote: prosto_rgb

So it’s their national peculiarity to collect hodgepodge from all over the world,

actually this is a state trend Buy and Make Indian))

[Anchonsha]

А чего здесь удивляться? Император Александр еще говорил. что у нас только два союзника: армия и флот. Индия. возможно, поступает так, как и мы бы поступили - неизвестно кто в будущем окажется на коне: Россия или США. Да и вооружение хотят иметь от разных стран, чтоб не отдавать никому превенства Вот наш первый, казалось бы, союзник Лукашенко, но он как извивается ужом перед Западом, а по вопросам признания-непризнания Абхазии, Цхинвала, Приднестровья, Крыма. Но индусы, кажется, не оценили то, что Россия поделилась своими новыми технологиями в создании "Брамос",танкостроении, чего никогда не было со стороны США. Ну да шиш с ними, индусами. Надо сцепить зубы и работать, работать, а у нас только воровать, сволочи, могут не боясь ответственности, так как отсидят несколько лет и выходят, чтоб жить дальше на награбленное и находящееся в офшорах.

[aviator1913]

Most likely, the Indians liked the service, plus helphires worthy of the rocket that have long established themselves. For the future confrontation with China by the joint efforts of Southeast Asia, the unification of helicopters with the Allies also did its job.

Плюс не стоит забывать, что США наконец помирилось с Индийским режимом, простив его за ядерные амбиции, которые в свое время сильно эти отношения подпортили. Это значит что Индия возвращается в круг интересов штатов, следовательно стоит ожидать подписания совместных торгово-экономических, военных и политических соглашений. Таким образом США постарается переключить свое сотрудничество в Азии с Китая в сторону Индии, заключив его в крепкие союзнические объятия.

[fregina1]

Pakistan will buy the same amount of Mi 35, and the same amount of Mi 28 N! And even though they are not friends to us .. let's call it market diversification !!!! Everything to balance the parties !!!

[IAlex]

This only shows the "quality" of domestic goods and services on the global and competitive marketplace ...

[shuhartred]

Quote: IAlex

This only shows the "quality" of domestic goods and services on the global and competitive marketplace ...

And what is quality? The Chinese are overwhelmingly full of gigatons and nothing, a world leader.

[bmv04636]

Well, for the Indians, I’m calm now, if there is something to remove trash from

[Platonich]

This is beauty !!!

[Victor-M]

Where the Americans to Russia.

[Ngauro]

However, a large batch of light aircraft, they bought from us

[VladimS]

Guys, maybe they remember their analogue of our saying about eggs in one basket ...?
In order not to depend on one country, in which case ...

[AlNikolaich]

And where Americans возьмут Чинуки для индии? Модель лет двадцать как с
production withdrawn ... Or a contract for used cars?

[Sealek]

The Hindus have been using the Chinooks for a long time ... at the same time they have been exploiting them to the fullest (when they moved from one airfield to another, I was shocked, kerosene leaks from the ceiling into the cabin and flapping pieces of torn skin).
Russia does not yet have a helicopter in this class - the Mi-38 has a payload half as much, and the Mi-26 one and a half / two times more ... (its serial peer and classmate Mi - 6 have sunk into oblivion).
For "Apaches" - a proven control system, modern SDs, a life cycle support system. All this is just now starting to promote to the market, together with new technology.
I do not see India's "sins" in the results of this tender.