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TSAMTO: India purchases Apache and Chinook helicopters

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After 3-year-old reflections and 13 extensions, the Ministry of Finance of India finally approved the purchase of XHUMX attack helicopters AH-22D Apache and 64 heavy transport helicopters CH-15F Chinook, reports TSAMTO.


TSAMTO: India purchases Apache and Chinook helicopters


The total transaction value is estimated at $ 3,1 billion.

The government security committee is expected to approve the purchase on Tuesday before the Indian Prime Minister leaves for the UN General Assembly session.

“Apache” and “Chinuk” were declared winners of tenders as early as 2012, negotiations on them ended at the end of 2013. However, the Defense Ministry then could not pay an advance of about 15% of the cost. The financial capacity of the department has deteriorated due to the redirection of $ 2 billion, intended for the purchase of weapons, to provide current expenses.

In turn, Boeing, which has repeatedly extended the validity of the offer, threatened to increase prices by 40% if the issue is not resolved until the end of September.

According to the newspaper, the Apaches will be acquired along with the 8 of the thousands of Hellfire ATGMs.

According to Indian sources, “currently there are three Russian Mi-26 heavy helicopters in service with the Indian Air Force, only one of which is serviceable, and six of the Mi-26 / 25 attack helicopters from 35 are in storage, the others have been in service” .
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  1. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 22 September 2015 10: 49 New
    +9
    And they say that only we have corruption.
    1. Afinogen
      Afinogen 22 September 2015 10: 51 New
      +5
      Quote: armored optimist
      And they say that only we have corruption.


      Corruption is everywhere, it is a common evil.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 September 2015 10: 54 New
        +4
        Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 22 September 2015 12: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: MIKHAN
          You will regret it later!

          urgent sanctions against the Indians: close our film market for Bollywood !!! To write yoga through "ё" !!!! To reduce the tourist flow by introducing compulsory vaccination of tourists !!! Not those contacted, the Upanishads are bad!
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 22 September 2015 12: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!

          Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache, and especially radar, target designation systems, etc., and draw conclusions. hi
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 22 September 2015 13: 22 New
            +6
            Quote: NEXUS
            ]
            Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache, and especially radar, target designation systems, etc., and draw conclusions. hi

            why on earth? India is a superpower, not a satellite of Russia, and it probably buys weapons with a number of restrictions on technology transfer.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 22 September 2015 15: 09 New
              +1
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              India is a superpower, not a satellite of Russia,

              And in my post even a word is that India is our satellite?
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              for what reason?

              For the same reason we TOGETHER build a 5th generation fighter, we produce BrahMoses, and so on ... as long as my memory serves me, India, since the days of Indira Gandhi, we, like the hut from a fairy tale, have not turned our backs. our military-industrial complex in the 90s was breathing, the Indians placed orders at our plants and enterprises.
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              and she’s probably buying weapons with a number of restrictions on technology transfer.

              Familiarity with even truncated Western technology will be useful to us. Or do you think otherwise? hi
            2. marshes
              marshes 22 September 2015 15: 32 New
              0
              Quote: Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi

              Sholom, with the past holiday.
              I have a question about Chinook, you are familiar with this technique.
              In the event of a failure of one of the engines, it seems that the second one transfers part of the energy, something like that, to the failed engine? What would be the opportunity to land the car.
          2. Das Boot
            Das Boot 22 September 2015 13: 33 New
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            Our specialists in India will carefully study Apache

            ha ha, who will let them pick their apaches?
            1. Throw
              Throw 22 September 2015 14: 15 New
              0
              Apaches have long been picking, do not worry. And not just us.
              1. Das Boot
                Das Boot 22 September 2015 14: 22 New
                +2
                Quote: Lance
                Apaches have long been picking, do not worry. And not just us.

                not the point. Comrade sure
                Quote: NEXUS
                Our specialists in India
                have the highest level of admission - from the Bollywood pavilions to the premier’s bedroom. O_o ...
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 22 September 2015 15: 11 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Das Boot
                  not the point. Comrade sure

                  And you, by your naivety, comrade, believe that the BrahMos and the Indian version of PAK FA are being built by the Indians themselves? Well, well ...
                  And I did not speak about all Apache, but about RADAR and some other systems ...
                  1. Das Boot
                    Das Boot 22 September 2015 15: 38 New
                    0
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    And you, by your naivety, comrade, believe that the BrahMos and the Indian version of PAK FA are being built by the Indians themselves? Well, well ...
                    Oh my god! Of course, our specialists! And besides the construction of the Indian PAK FA, do other people's secrets have time to dig? And what - I admit ...
                    1. Throw
                      Throw 22 September 2015 17: 16 New
                      0
                      Yes, India is not the point! Our intelligence not only works there. See where the Apaches are armed wink
      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 22 September 2015 11: 07 New
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        hi Greetings Broneoptimist.
        Quote: armored optimist
        And they say that only we have corruption.

        And what does corruption have to do with it? Hindus are simply pushing in their own way Americans in their own way. Specifically for the purchase, we can say that the Hindus most likely decided to follow the path of the Saudis -Buy weapons from that country for the loyalty that they expect. Russia also defends its interests. Hindus could buy Russian Mi-28, Mi-35, Ka-52 instead of Apaches? Could ... And instead of the Chinook Mi-26? Could ...
        Well, what is India’s choice, now don’t be offended if Pakistan gets a new batch of Russian Mi-35s, if not Mi-28s at all.

        Nothing personal Hindus and yes -Indi-Rus phai-phai! wink
        1. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist 22 September 2015 11: 26 New
          +2
          "The Hindus most likely decided to follow the path of the Saudis -Buy weapons from that country on the loyalty that they expect."
          In the sense of the United States loyal to India? A new word in political science!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 22 September 2015 11: 01 New
      +1
      Well, let him fly on Chingachguk. They are not our enemies.
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 22 September 2015 11: 27 New
        0
        Chinook is not an Indian. Chinook is a chicken.
        1. saenara
          saenara 22 September 2015 12: 15 New
          0
          Chinook is the same wind.
    3. War and Peace
      War and Peace 22 September 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      Che Indians decided to buy all the helicopters in the world? and ka226, and mi17, and chinooks, and Apaches, there is nowhere to put money ...
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 September 2015 11: 12 New
      +1
      That will compare ... And there, and not far to the new tender laughing
  2. Sasha75
    Sasha75 22 September 2015 10: 52 New
    13
    Let them feel the difference and think that it’s a little sanction and they will buy parts through third countries if they sell a lot of American equipment in Venezuela, three expensive, but there are no spare parts, and we had to buy tricky equipment from us twice, sometimes three times.
  3. Buffalo
    Buffalo 22 September 2015 10: 57 New
    +6
    India has once again shown itself to be extremely capricious and unreliable ally. They traded with us for every penny, using unfavorable conditions; for us, Americans are dumped without looking, a lot of money.
    Forgot what you owe to Russia!
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    2. captain
      captain 22 September 2015 11: 05 New
      +5
      Well, you won’t be full of gratitude, but the fact that our guys in the KLA at one time splashed world trends is a fact. Our service is weak, we have not learned how to sell, Peter is right for merchants sec for thoughtless greed.
    3. veksha50
      veksha50 22 September 2015 11: 07 New
      +6
      Quote: Bison
      Forgot what you owe to Russia!



      Than ??? By and large - than ???
    4. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 15: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Bison
      Forgot what you owe to Russia!

      stop whining already that everyone around us owes. Hindus then?
  4. Mixweb
    Mixweb 22 September 2015 11: 04 New
    +2
    How are Russian helicopters not happy with the Indians? Both in price and quality are better than American ones.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 September 2015 12: 10 New
      +2
      Well, at least a massive bunch of radar + ATGM.

      Apache Longbow has it, especially since the Indians are already buying with the new radar and Maverick.

      Ka-52 has a good radar, even better in characteristics than Apache (corny because of the larger canvas). But there is no ATGM. Moreover, Ka-52 is currently approved only for the use of NURSs.

      Mi-28Н does not have a developed radar, and at the time of selection (2012), in general there was only a mock-up with promises to do everything. Now the first radar vehicles were delivered only this year (Iraq - 2 vehicles + the main headboard for Algeria will be given up by the end of the year), while with trial operation and wagon restrictions. And again, there are no ATGMs. Not mock-ups, but serial ones, with tolerances and an example of work in the combat unit.
  5. veksha50
    veksha50 22 September 2015 11: 06 New
    +3
    It seems to me that this behavior of India in the procurement of air force equipment is due to the fact that they are trying to influence Russia in matters of the SU-35 and the future PAK FA ... They want a lot from us right away ... But there was a deflection in front of the states. ..

    Some unpleasant aftertaste from this deal ...
    1. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 22 September 2015 16: 15 New
      0
      both ours and yours are shorter ... well, the Indians in their repertoire
  6. chikenous59
    chikenous59 22 September 2015 11: 07 New
    +2
    8000 ATGM is this much to them ?? 250 missiles per helicopter. Just like going to war
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 22 September 2015 11: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: chikenous59
      8000 ATGM is this much to them ?? 250 missiles per helicopter. Just like going to war

      Shrinkage and utruska during storage. smile

      There was the same story with the "red fields" when the Indians, a couple of years after the purchase, put forward a claim for low-quality shells. They began to sort it out and found out that the Indians saved by purchasing conventional shells from us, moreover, they stored them in open areas, often even without a canopy. Although the documents clearly stated: storage - a warehouse with such a range of temperatures and such a maximum humidity.
  7. tyras85
    tyras85 22 September 2015 11: 10 New
    +3
    A frail partner. With an unpredictable policy! Go together, only in the wake of Russian interests! ONLY
    RUSSIAN!
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 12: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: tyras85
      Go together, only in the wake of Russian interests! ONLY
      RUSSIAN!

      why the hell to the Indians whose interests besides their own?
  8. superoper
    superoper 22 September 2015 11: 20 New
    0
    in a big family .... oh don’t click-whoever managed to eat it
  9. prosto_rgb
    prosto_rgb 22 September 2015 11: 21 New
    +3
    Well, why are you Indians ..? Ugh, damn it ... Well, how do women grab beautiful and expensive toys on shopping ... You will regret it later!

    So it’s their national peculiarity that they collect the hodgepodge from all over the world, and somehow manage to exploit it.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 22 September 2015 15: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: prosto_rgb
      So it’s their national peculiarity to collect hodgepodge from all over the world,

      actually this is a state trend Buy and Make Indian))
  10. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 22 September 2015 11: 23 New
    +3
    Why wonder here? Emperor Alexander still spoke. that we have only two allies: the army and the navy. India. perhaps it does what we would have done - it is not known who will be on the horse in the future: Russia or the USA. Yes, and they want to have weapons from different countries so as not to give anyone any prizes Here is our first, it would seem, ally of Lukashenko, but he seems to wriggle in front of the West, and on the issues of recognition, non-recognition of Abkhazia, Tskhinval, Transnistria, Crimea. But the Indians, it seems, did not appreciate the fact that Russia shared its new technologies in the creation of "Brahmos", tank building, which has never happened on the part of the United States. Well, shish with them, Indians. It is necessary to grit your teeth and work, work, and we only have to steal, scum, they can not be afraid of responsibility, because they serve a few years and go out to live on looted and offshore.
  11. aviator1913
    aviator1913 22 September 2015 11: 47 New
    +3
    Most likely, the Indians liked the service, plus helphires worthy of the rocket that have long established themselves. For the future confrontation with China by the joint efforts of Southeast Asia, the unification of helicopters with the Allies also did its job.

    Plus, do not forget that the United States finally reconciled with the Indian regime, forgiving it for nuclear ambitions, which at one time greatly spoiled these relations. This means that India is returning to the circle of interests of the states, therefore, we should expect the signing of joint trade, economic, military and political agreements. Thus, the United States will try to shift its cooperation in Asia from China to India, wrapping it in a strong allied embrace.
  12. fregina1
    fregina1 22 September 2015 11: 53 New
    0
    Pakistan will buy the same amount of Mi 35, and the same amount of Mi 28 N! And even though they are not friends to us .. let's call it market diversification !!!! Everything to balance the parties !!!
  13. IAlex
    IAlex 22 September 2015 11: 54 New
    0
    It only shows the "quality" of domestic goods and services on a global and competitive trading platform ...
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 22 September 2015 13: 28 New
      0
      Quote: IAlex
      It only shows the "quality" of domestic goods and services on a global and competitive trading platform ...

      And what is quality? The Chinese are overwhelmingly full of gigatons and nothing, a world leader.
  14. bmv04636
    bmv04636 22 September 2015 11: 54 New
    0
    Well, for the Indians, I’m calm now, if there is something to remove trash from laughing
    1. Platonich
      Platonich 22 September 2015 12: 18 New
      0
      This is beauty !!!
  15. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 September 2015 12: 18 New
    0
    Where the Americans to Russia. laughing
  16. Ngauro
    Ngauro 22 September 2015 12: 25 New
    0
    However, a large batch of light aircraft, they bought from us
  17. VladimS
    VladimS 22 September 2015 12: 57 New
    0
    Guys, maybe they remember their analogue of our saying about eggs in one basket ...?
    In order not to depend on one country, in which case ...
  18. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 22 September 2015 14: 25 New
    -1
    And where will the Americans get the Chinook for India? Model twenty years old as with
    production withdrawn ... Or a contract for used cars?
  19. Sealek
    Sealek 22 September 2015 22: 21 New
    +3
    The Hindus have been using the Chinooks for a long time ... at the same time they are being exploited "to the fullest" (when they were relocated from one airfield to another - he was in shock, leaking kerosene from the ceiling to the cabin and popping pieces of torn lining).
    Russia does not yet have a helicopter in this class - the Mi-38 has a payload half as much, and the Mi-26 one and a half / two times more ... (its serial peer and classmate Mi - 6 have sunk into oblivion).
    According to "Apaches" - worked out SUV, modern SDs, life cycle support system. All this is only now starting to be promoted to the market, along with new technology.
    I do not see the "sins" of India in the results of this tender.