China is experiencing the fastest aircraft in the world

Chinese military expert Lu Xiaodong said on the satellite of Hubei Province TV channel that China recently conducted the first test flight of a hypersonic aircraft that surpassed all modern supersonic aircraft, including the SR-71 Black Thrush, an American strategic supersonic reconnaissance aircraft.

"It was the first test flight of the aircraft at hypersonic speed, and it was a complete success," he said. TASS.

A hypersonic speed is considered to be at least five times the speed of sound.

“The United States has long been engaged in developing a new generation hypersonic aircraft capable of reaching speeds of 5M, however, these American plans remain on paper. This time, China can be said to have surpassed all the expectations of observers, ”said Lou Xiaodong.

The expert noted that the implementation of such a project requires the technology of a hypersonic ramjet engine, which has not yet been owned by any state in the world. In addition, we need light, durable and fireproof new materials that can withstand the high temperatures of the aircraft skin at hypersonic speed.

According to Lu Xiaodong, modern air defense systems are practically useless against hypersonic aircraft because of the sharply reduced approach time, since they do not have time to react and send missiles. Such devices can be successfully used for aerial reconnaissance.

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[Scandinavian]

We have our own left-hander, on the Chinese wunderwafel ....

[Conductor]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Looking at the photo, he eats fuel so that in 2 minutes he will have empty tanks.

and yet

surpassed in speed all modern supersonic aircraft, including the US strategic supersonic reconnaissance SR-71 "Blackbird".

although they still have to finalize it ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Explorer

and yet
surpassed in speed all modern supersonic aircraft, including the US strategic supersonic reconnaissance SR-71 "Blackbird".

And what is "nevertheless"? Solved the control problem at this speed? Or does he only fly in a straight line, and at the end he is caught with a net? Setting a record is one thing, putting it into practice is another.

[Sid.74]

surpassed in speed all modern supersonic aircraft, including the US strategic supersonic reconnaissance SR-71 "Blackbird".

Blackbird set an absolute speed record among manned aircraft with direct-flow engines - 3540 km / h.
The Soviet MIG-25 fighter, according to the pilots, could easily reach speed, albeit short-term, to 3600 km / h, but since, according to international rules, the speed was not fixed officially, the record was left for the SR-71 Blackbird.
And it, unlike experimental and piece planes, was mass-produced. SR-71 built the whole 12 unit. Almost the same number of 1200 units were built.

[Darkmor]

I would not trust the news from China.
Practice shows that they mostly boast about what they don’t have. And what they really have very rarely comes to the surface in some kind of interviews.

Perhaps this is a simple attempt to spur similar research in other countries to solve their problems through espionage.

[scorpiosys]

Darkmor
Here, Dear ... REALLY the most common thought from the discussions.
East is a delicate matter. And, about the real benefits of these "PRC" achievements, perhaps in our life we ​​will not see.

[zeleznijdorojnik]

Well, let's put 12 in the version of the A-12 reconnaissance and 32 combat units, more worried about something else - X43a - "On November 16, 2004, the modified X-43A set a world speed record of 11 km / h (Mach 200)"

[Andrey_K]

But isn’t that the moment 31 our fastest plane?

[goose]

And how do you imagine turns at such speeds? The SR-71 with its turn radius of 100 km was still a maneuverable aircraft.

[PN]

Actually at 18km.

[VadimSt]

The record speed of SR-71 is impressive - 3529,56 km / h, but if SR-71 is modern (the first flight in 1964 year), then I'm a teenager.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: VadimSt

The record speed of the SR-71 is impressive - 3529,56 km / h

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

[inkass_98]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

As colleagues from my previous work (former aircraft technicians, retirees) explained to me, MiG's speed limits only tank capacity and construction materials. Those. the engines could continue to accelerate the plane, but the metal of the hull and wings began to overheat, everything could end sadly. So anything is possible with the speed of 3600. After all, the declared 3000 km speed for the MiG-25 / 31 is the speed of safe operation.

[mQn]

When they set a record for a moment25, then the speed of the cockpit was already melted, the pilot had to, after landing, literally cut out of the cockpit, and this car was very different from the drill mobs. It is foolish to compare the car on which the record is set and drill. One name and shape of the body is one and the same.

[iouris]

Cabin light restrictions. The unmanned version can be dispersed above M = 2,81.

[VadimSt]

2. First, for the interception, the maneuverability of the aircraft is important, allowing it to make bends of a substantially smaller radius. So, for MiG-25 at cruising speed M 2.35 (2500 km / h), overloads up to 5 g are allowed, whereas for SR-71 at cruising speed M = 3 the operational overload is limited to 1.5. g, as a result of which the radius of its turn at a given speed is 93 miles. Maneuverability is ensured by a stronger, and therefore potentially heavier design, wing of a larger scope and less sweep, which negatively affects the speed characteristics. Due to greater maneuverability than the SR-71, the MiG-25 holds a speed record on a closed 100-km route. SR-71, in principle, could not carry out such a sharp turn at high speed. Stability and controllability at such overloads were provided by two huge MiG keels, which also increased drag and reduced maximum speed.
 Secondly, with the speed of the intercepted target in 3 M or more, the speed of approach of the interceptor with it is 5000 - 6 000 km / h. With a detection range of a bomber-like target by the Smerch-A radar in 100 km, the time for which interception is possible is about a minute. Further increase in interceptor speed with 60's radar capabilities. makes the probability of successful interception of high-speed targets in the conditions of electronic countermeasures low. For this reason, the optimal speed of the MiG-25 aircraft during interception is 2 500 km / h, and it was at this speed that the aircraft was displayed in automatic mode.
For these reasons, the modification of E-155PA, as well as E-155M, did not receive completion. The most unclaimed (not built at all) turned out to be the first superhigh-speed modification, which could perform an interception only by detecting an enemy at a very long range, and also by starting shelling a target from a long distance. For this purpose, it was planned to install long-range missiles and the sophisticated Smerch-155 radar on the E-100PA (the future SBI-16 Barrier, which was also planned for installation on the Tu-148 interceptor, which lost the MiG-31 aircraft in the competition). However, by the time of work on the E-155PA work on the Smerch-100 radar was at an initial stage.
The most effective of the existing interceptors is the MiG-31 - a deep modernization of the MiG-25, not surpassing it in terms of speed, but having significant advantages in the capabilities of electronic equipment, range and greater maneuverability. The effectiveness of the MiG-31 is confirmed by a number of successful interceptions by them of SR-71 aircraft, carried out in the Far East and over the water area of ​​the Arctic Ocean.
http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/kanfo/post256498100/

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: VadimSt

The record speed of the SR-71 is impressive - 3529,56 km / h

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

Alexander! Good day to you. You are not up to date VAF will return to the site. With great interest I always read his comments. A long time ago he did not appear.

[TSOOBER]

Search and find! He doesn’t hide too much!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: VadimSt

The record speed of the SR-71 is impressive - 3529,56 km / h

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

it was a deal!

[goose]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

It is doubtful. MiG-31 is much heavier than the 25th. It seems to me that the 25th is a priori faster than the 31st.

[VadimSt]

1. Set records
MiG-25 owns records of flight speeds with cargo in 1 and 2 tons. SR-71 - records of the speed of no-load flight on an external sling on closed 500 and 1000 km routes and on a short base. In these nominations, the SR-71 broke the records of the Soviet interceptor. When fully refueled, the SR-71 cruising speed is 3200 km / h at an altitude of 24 400 m and increases to 3300 as fuel is generated and the horizontal flight altitude increases to 25 km. The official speed record is 3529,56 km / h based on 15 - 25 km. For MiG-25, the maximum flight speed at high altitude 3 000 km / h is often indicated. This is the functional speed - that is, that achieved by the interceptor with full missile weapons (4 UR R-40 weighing 2 tons). Without external suspensions, the mission is performed by the MiG-25P reconnaissance. In this connection, the maximum speed corresponding to the number M = 3 is sometimes indicated for him.
Meanwhile, the MiG-25 aircraft is capable of reaching a higher M value. For example, during test flights it was found that the cockpit glazing begins to melt when it reaches the number M 3.12 (over 3300 km / h). During flight tests, it was also found that the controllability of the aircraft at a speed of more than 3 times the speed of sound was deteriorated. But the most significant surprise for the pilots was the process of a sudden uncontrolled increase in speed when moving beyond the number M = 2,83. According to the pilots, psychologically it seemed that the aircraft would accelerate until self-destruction. As a result, the MiG-25 during operation was limited by the number M corresponding to the 2.83 value (3 000 km / h). The flight time at this speed is limited to 8 minutes (initially - 3 minutes). And although in some cases the most experienced testers (Fedotov, Ostapenko) accelerated the aircraft to record speeds to a maximum altitude of more than 3 000 km / h in record flights, the Soviet MiGs never “squeezed” the maximum possible speed
However, during the Arab-Israeli war, in the conditions of hostilities, which envisaged a flight over the territory controlled by the air defense systems and enemy fighter-interceptors, these and other operational restrictions are far from always respected. According to Israeli air defense experts, the MiG-i flew over Israel at speeds up to 3 700 km / h. These enemy data were recognized authoritative in the United States. The American reference book of Soviet weapons indicated the maximum speed of the MiG-25 PDS 3400 km / h.
In the film about the MiG-25 shot in the USA, one of the commentators was the traitor pilot Belenko, who flew the MiG-25 to Japan in the 1972 year. When asked if the MiG could catch up with the Blackbird, he answered in the affirmative, emphasizing that the time for overtaking should be about 10 minutes. Obviously, not only testers but also combat pilots knew the ability of the MiG-25 to accelerate with fast and furious speeds to significantly higher speeds than those limited by instruction.
Further modernization of the MiG-25 - the experimental E-155M aircraft, converted from the original version, was equipped with more powerful engines with thrust of 13500 kgf (versus 11200 kgf of the original aircraft) and could develop with full missile velocity M = 3 at 24200 m At the same time, the armament included not only the 4 UR R-40, but also the R-60 melee missiles.
In the mid-1960-s, work was carried out to modify the E-155PA interceptor with thrust engines in accordance with 15 000 kgf (the same engines in the amount of 4-x were installed on the T-4 Sukhoi Design Bureau aircraft). This modification of the MiG-25 was to develop a maximum speed of 3700 - 4000 km / h.

[VadimSt]

Set records
MiG-25 owns records of flight speeds with cargo in 1 and 2 tons. SR-71 - records of the speed of no-load flight on an external sling on closed 500 and 1000 km routes and on a short base. In these nominations, the SR-71 broke the records of the Soviet interceptor. When fully refueled, the SR-71 cruising speed is 3200 km / h at an altitude of 24 400 m and increases to 3300 as fuel is generated and the horizontal flight altitude increases to 25 km. The official speed record is 3529,56 km / h based on 15 - 25 km. For MiG-25, the maximum flight speed at high altitude 3 000 km / h is often indicated. This is the functional speed - that is, that achieved by the interceptor with full missile weapons (4 UR R-40 weighing 2 tons). Without external suspensions, the mission is performed by the MiG-25P reconnaissance. In this connection, the maximum speed corresponding to the number M = 3 is sometimes indicated for him.
Meanwhile, the MiG-25 aircraft is capable of reaching a higher M value. For example, during test flights it was found that the cockpit glazing begins to melt when it reaches the number M 3.12 (over 3300 km / h). During flight tests, it was also found that the controllability of the aircraft at a speed of more than 3 times the speed of sound was deteriorated. But the most significant surprise for the pilots was the process of a sudden uncontrolled increase in speed when moving beyond the number M = 2,83. According to the pilots, psychologically it seemed that the aircraft would accelerate until self-destruction. As a result, the MiG-25 during operation was limited by the number M corresponding to the 2.83 value (3 000 km / h). The flight time at this speed is limited to 8 minutes (initially - 3 minutes). And although in some cases the most experienced testers (Fedotov, Ostapenko) accelerated the aircraft to record speeds to a maximum altitude of more than 3 000 km / h in record flights, the Soviet MiGs never “squeezed” the maximum possible speed
However, during the Arab-Israeli war, in the conditions of hostilities, which envisaged a flight over the territory controlled by the air defense systems and enemy fighter-interceptors, these and other operational restrictions are far from always respected. According to Israeli air defense experts, the MiG-i flew over Israel at speeds up to 3 700 km / h. These enemy data were recognized authoritative in the United States. The American reference book of Soviet weapons indicated the maximum speed of the MiG-25 PDS 3400 km / h.
In the film about the MiG-25 shot in the USA, one of the commentators was the traitor pilot Belenko, who flew the MiG-25 to Japan in the 1972 year. When asked if the MiG could catch up with the Blackbird, he answered in the affirmative, emphasizing that the time for overtaking should be about 10 minutes. Obviously, not only testers but also combat pilots knew the ability of the MiG-25 to accelerate with fast and furious speeds to significantly higher speeds than those limited by instruction.
Further modernization of the MiG-25 - the experimental E-155M aircraft, converted from the original version, was equipped with more powerful engines with thrust of 13500 kgf (versus 11200 kgf of the original aircraft) and could develop with full missile velocity M = 3 at 24200 m At the same time, the armament included not only the 4 UR R-40, but also the R-60 melee missiles.
In the mid-1960-s, work was carried out to modify the E-155PA interceptor with thrust engines in accordance with 15 000 kgf (the same engines in the amount of 4-x were installed on the T-4 Sukhoi Design Bureau aircraft). This modification of the MiG-25 was to develop a maximum speed of 3700 - 4000 km / h.
It should be noted that, unlike the creators of the American intelligence, the creators of the MiG-25 aircraft were by no means exclusively aimed at achieving the highest possible speed.

[VadimSt]

1. Set records
MiG-25 owns records of flight speeds with cargo in 1 and 2 tons. SR-71 - records of the speed of no-load flight on an external sling on closed 500 and 1000 km routes and on a short base. In these nominations, the SR-71 broke the records of the Soviet interceptor. When fully refueled, the SR-71 cruising speed is 3200 km / h at an altitude of 24 400 m and increases to 3300 as fuel is generated and the horizontal flight altitude increases to 25 km. The official speed record is 3529,56 km / h based on 15 - 25 km. For MiG-25, the maximum flight speed at high altitude 3 000 km / h is often indicated. This is the functional speed - that is, that achieved by the interceptor with full missile weapons (4 UR R-40 weighing 2 tons). Without external suspensions, the mission is performed by the MiG-25P reconnaissance. In this connection, the maximum speed corresponding to the number M = 3 is sometimes indicated for him.
Meanwhile, the MiG-25 aircraft is capable of reaching a higher M value. For example, during test flights it was found that the cockpit glazing begins to melt when it reaches the number M 3.12 (over 3300 km / h). During flight tests, it was also found that the controllability of the aircraft at a speed of more than 3 times the speed of sound was deteriorated. But the most significant surprise for the pilots was the process of a sudden uncontrolled increase in speed when moving beyond the number M = 2,83. According to the pilots, psychologically it seemed that the aircraft would accelerate until self-destruction. As a result, the MiG-25 during operation was limited by the number M corresponding to the 2.83 value (3 000 km / h). The flight time at this speed is limited to 8 minutes (initially - 3 minutes). And although in some cases the most experienced testers (Fedotov, Ostapenko) accelerated the aircraft to record speeds to a maximum altitude of more than 3 000 km / h in record flights, the Soviet MiGs never “squeezed” the maximum possible speed
However, during the Arab-Israeli war, in the conditions of hostilities, which envisaged a flight over the territory controlled by the air defense systems and enemy fighter-interceptors, these and other operational restrictions are far from always respected. According to Israeli air defense experts, the MiG-i flew over Israel at speeds up to 3 700 km / h. These enemy data were recognized authoritative in the United States. The American reference book of Soviet weapons indicated the maximum speed of the MiG-25 PDS 3400 km / h.
In the film about the MiG-25 shot in the USA, one of the commentators was the traitor pilot Belenko, who flew the MiG-25 to Japan in the 1972 year. When asked if the MiG could catch up with the Blackbird, he answered in the affirmative, emphasizing that the time for overtaking should be about 10 minutes. Obviously, not only testers but also combat pilots knew the ability of the MiG-25 to accelerate with fast and furious speeds to significantly higher speeds than those limited by instruction.
Further modernization of the MiG-25 - the experimental E-155M aircraft, converted from the original version, was equipped with more powerful engines with thrust of 13500 kgf (versus 11200 kgf of the original aircraft) and could develop with full missile velocity M = 3 at 24200 m At the same time, the armament included not only the 4 UR R-40, but also the R-60 melee missiles.
In the mid-1960-s, work was carried out to modify the E-155PA interceptor with thrust engines in accordance with 15 000 kgf (the same engines in the amount of 4-x were installed on the T-4 Sukhoi Design Bureau aircraft). This modification of the MiG-25 was to develop a maximum speed of 3700 - 4000 km / h.
It should be noted that, unlike the creators of the American intelligence, the creators of the MiG-25 aircraft were by no means exclusively aimed at achieving the highest possible speed.

[adept666]

outperforming all modern supersonic aircraft

1: This is not taking into account the UAV
2: North American X-15 (the 50s of the last century, manned, flew into the stratosphere, developed 7274 km / h, did not receive further development), i.e. The Chinese have reproduced a technology that has been in use for over 60 years and which, in principle, has yielded nothing in principle.

[Altona]

Quote: adept666

2: North American X-15 (the 50s of the last century, manned, flew into the stratosphere, developed 7274 km / h, did not receive further development), i.e. The Chinese have reproduced a technology that has been in use for over 60 years and which, in principle, has yielded nothing in principle.

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It didn’t start independently, but from a B-52 bomber carrier, like a rocket ... Yes, there was a rocket plane ..

[adept666]

It didn’t start independently, but from a B-52 bomber carrier, like a rocket ... Yes, there was a rocket plane ...

I strongly suspect something that the photo above is also not quite a plane (and it is unlikely that with such a torch he would have had enough fuel with his fuel size to even go up from the runway ) and especially not with ramjet And judging by the picture (sky color), its flight altitude is also not 10 km, which, as it were, hints ...

[avdkrd]

Quote: adept666

North American X-15 (the 50s of the last century, manned, flew into the stratosphere, developed 7274 km / h, did not receive development), i.e. The Chinese have reproduced a technology that has been in use for over 60 years and which, in principle, has yielded nothing in principle.

The X-15 is essentially a suborbital rocket plane. with such success (altitude flight profile from 81 km to 106). With such success, any launch vehicle can be called hypersonic aircraft. Judging by the photo, the Chinese are not talking about a ramjet engine, so you are right - again, a rocket plane 60 years ago.

[adept666]

With such success, any launch vehicle can be called hypersonic aircraft

Well, in general, that's what winged steps are called in the space and rocket industry. Buran, Space Shuttle belong to manned hypersonic aircraft, since they make hypersonic flight on the descent path, and if the OSB MAX system were implemented, then on the ascent path.

[serega.fedotov]

Quote: Explorer

although they still have to finalize it ...

Even if the Chinese do not succeed in the plane, the rocket may well come out! The time of its "life" is several times less - you can use less reliable alloys, a simpler engine, and you do not need to think about the pilot.
And for a breakthrough, missile defense maneuvering on 5 max strikes is the very thing!

[pv1005]

Quote: serega.fedotov

Quote: Explorer

although they still have to finalize it ...

Even if the Chinese do not have a plane, the rocket may well come out! The time of its "life" is several times less-less reliable alloys can be used, a simpler engineand don’t have to think about the pilot.
And for a breakthrough missile defense maneuvering by 5 mahah the goal is that!

And is it for hypersound? Following your logic in the construction of the Mozhaisky plane, supergalactic technologies that we have lost today were applied.

[Conductor]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: Explorer

and yet
surpassed in speed all modern supersonic aircraft, including the US strategic supersonic reconnaissance SR-71 "Blackbird".

And what is "nevertheless"? Solved the control problem at this speed? Or does he only fly in a straight line, and at the end he is caught with a net? Setting a record is one thing, putting it into practice is another.

It's clear

The expert noted that the implementation of such a project requires the technology of a hypersonic ramjet engine, which so far has not been possessed by any country in the world. Besides, the necessary lightweight, durable and refractory new materials that can withstand the high temperature sheathing of the aircraft at hypersonic speed.

they did not declare full readiness, they only said that the first flight took place, the design is viable

[vkl-47]

The Union also had similar projects. In essence, this is a hypersonic missile.

[prostorabochiy]

For reconnaissance purposes there is now a mass of more effective means, and even sure, cheaper ones. But so, for the Pontus, in principle, the bandura will come in handy. You see, over time they’ll figure out how to use it effectively.

[siberalt]

The device was launched faster than sound by the USSR back in 1957, so what? And our pilots flew on "Buran" in the last century. What is the achievement then?

[Thronekeeper]

Have already done. Hypersonic anti-ship missiles "Zircon" - "Yakhont (Bramos) -2" designed for launch (6 pieces) from Tu-22M3M at 900 km at a speed of M7 (ground and underwater Zircons are still skidding, aviation current - the Kazakh version is called AUG kirdyk ), on the basis of reconnaissance drones blinded hypersonku.
Another non-hyper, supersonic cb. Dry high-altitude drone BAS-62, armed with RVV and RVZ (which, in addition to the speed, surpasses the tattered "Global Hawk" (USA) with Hellfires and the Chinese "Divine Eagle" (also subsonic), and also has a decimeter radar for detecting "rappy" and "lightning" and the REP can jam radar and RVV with ARGSN. "Armed with low-frequency radars, the latest drones in Russia and China will put an end to stealth aircraft, writes the American military-political publication The National Interest."

[Alexander Romanov]

Looking at the photo, he eats fuel so that in 2 minutes he will have empty tanks.

[GRAY]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Looking at the photo, he eats fuel so that in 2 minutes he will have empty tanks.

Stopudovo there is a rocket engine.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: GRAY

Stopudovo there is a rocket engine.

And the flight went vertically from the stratosphere. The declared speed was fixed at 100m. from the earth.
Using the same methodology, you can test the fastest car or the fastest Chinese.

[vovanpain]

China has already tested the hypersonic submarine, now we must also test the hypersonic tank.

[wild]

Pi ... um like a gray gelding.

[Oberon 1]

I wonder where they got such technology from. If only a copy was made from something.

[GRAY]

Quote: oberon 1

I wonder where they got such technology from. If only a copy was made from something.

After all, the 21st century is in the yard.
Improved this:

[Oberon 1]

This is an old project ... but the idea is clear.

[Voha_krim]

Quote: oberon 1

I wonder where they got such technology from. If only a copy was made from something.

If this picture (in the article) of the Chinese apparatus, then it looks like an American one.

[Alexey-74]

why not .... if such giants as Russia and the USA have not yet created hypersonic airplanes, where does China come from such technologies, nothing more than an experimental model on which it is likely to work another ten years

[Karlovar]

The grands of Russia and the United States did not create a serial ballistic anti-ship missile ...

[silver169]

Honestly, I doubt very much that China is capable of such a thing. Yes, the Chinese have done a great job of modernizing the army and their own industry, but they really like to splurge as wishful thinking. If this were true, they would have long had their own engine for a 5th generation fighter ready. However, even this is not yet within their power. What can we say about hypersound.

[Karlovar]

35 years ago, China’s GDP was from 0,3 to 0,5 trillion thalers ... Today, 11 trillion of official GDP (many suspect that their real GDP is 30-40 percent more) ... Then, 35 years ago, the whole world laughed over the attempts of the Chinese in the economy ..., the West was sure that the Chinese would not master the hi-tech, but would slow down on sewing cowards and slippers ....

[Tra-ta-ta]

According to Lu Xiaodong, modern air defense systems are practically useless against hypersonic aircraft due to the sharply reduced flight time
Some kind of nonsense: we can shoot down hyper / super warheads .. but this airplane isn’t!?!

[Zomanus]

Flies yes, maneuvers ... here are doubts.
For there are such overloads that the pilot turns into minced meat.
So the Chinese can be congratulated on the achievement, but I see no practical benefit from such an aircraft.

[Altona]

Quote: Zomanus

Flies yes, maneuvers ... here are doubts.
For there are such overloads that the pilot turns into minced meat.

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Well, yes, for maneuver it is necessary to reset and gain speed, so the overloads will probably be up to 10-12g ... The pilot will be just a bag, biomass ...

[Watchdog]

Yes, all of this is clear that our military is always the best, but - the fact remains - the Chinese have created a hypersonic plane, if so - all current missile defense systems can be thrown into a landfill, so ... you have to catch up ... in such questions hatchery does not work ...

[dauria]

but - the fact remains, - the Chinese invented a hypersonic plane

Oh, how far from reality is this "fact". Engine type ?, Fuel and its stock? Motor flight time? Takeoff and landing method? At least these questions. And so of these inventions (and actually flying) from the time of Konstantin Eduardovich to the present day, several dozen will be typed.

[abrakadabre]

The keyword "if". Judging by the content of your post, you are completely unaware of how difficult it is. Such ICBMs and space carriers are also hypersonic. And CHOOOO ?!
The Chinese have not yet been able to fully copy aircraft engines for fighters. And then suddenly, suddenly, they created ramjet for hypersound. Yeah ... SHCHAZZZZ ... And what resource does he have? The same Thrush has a very impressive resource.

[Tusv]

Quote: Watchdog

all current missile defense systems can be dumped

S-400 4,8 km / s. Is this complex going to be thrown into a landfill? Cut the Chinese how to drink to give

[Watchdog]

http://military-informant.com/ сообщение о возможном внешнем виде этого беспилотника.

[Jurkovs]

“The United States cannot, but we can,” this is the whole Chinese arrogance. Judging by the exhaust, this is a liquid rocket engine, and both the United States and Russia tested such hypersonic aircraft back in the 70s of the last century. The problem is to create a ramjet hypersonic engine. And here really no one has any success, and even more so among the Chinese. As for the "light and strong refractory materials", if they were, then China would have copied our aircraft engines long ago and created its own for its 5th generation, but so far these machines are still flying on our engines.

[Engineer]

The picture in the article is only x-43a. And I don’t believe about the Chinese, so that they can do something worthwhile. Accelerating to hypersound is not difficult, but a long flight for the Chinese is not yet realistic. They have not yet made a reliable engine for combat aircraft.

[Buffalo]

An anecdote in the subject.

Someone knocked aboard our space station. The astronaut looked into the window and sees ... Chinese!
Our Chinese asks, they say, how did he end up here.
To which the Chinese replies, they say, the Chinese ingenuity - "comrade for comrades, comrade for comrades ... and - hello, comrades!"

[Fotoceva62]

It seems to be a rocket engine, although it is possible this is an accelerator located in a ramjet. After starting the ram engine, it is squeezed out by pressure.
It’s difficult to judge from the photo, a drop from an airplane, in general, most likely a test bench. Russia does not boast of this. Good luck, what more could you wish for.
The Chinese developers have much to strive for, the main thing is that Russia would keep its ears open with these partners. The cuts on the go will be cut off and they will say that it was so. A nation of photocopiers, will copy u!

[Buffalo]

This is not a photo. This is a photoshop drawing of the "Molniya" project. Details can be found on the website
www.buran.ru

[delorian]

info from the site of JSC Design Bureau of Chemical Automation
............ scramjet 58L
Since 1994, KBHA on TK TsIAM them. Baranova is developing an experimental axisymmetric hypersonic ramjet engine GPVRD 58L (leading designers I.V. Liplyavy, Yu.A. Martynenko), designed to study the working processes of burning hydrogen fuel in flight at speeds of 3-6,5 M and altitudes from 20 to 35 km. The engine runs on liquid hydrogen, which passes through the cooling path of the combustion chamber and then enters the combustion zone. The combustion chamber is annular, three-zone. In the first zone, hydrogen combustion occurs in a subsonic air stream, in the other two in supersonic. The combustion chamber was fully designed and manufactured at KBHA, while original design and technological solutions were implemented.
In 1998, the scramjet engine successfully passed flight tests as part of the Kholod hypersonic flying laboratory. The engine was turned on at a flight speed of 77M, at the end of the flight for 6,47 s. the speed reached XNUMX M. For the first time in the world, the combustion of hydrogen in the chamber took place in a supersonic flow. The engine worked completely and without comment according to the test program.
so Ours, as usual, has problems with financing further work! the engine also needs to develop a glider with a very powerful thermal insulation

[Buffalo]

In addition to the KBHA, there are companies that are simultaneously working on hypersonic engines, the information passed through the media. - Reutovo, Lytkarino, Dubna ...
Nice company, KBHA. In 1981, I first saw a rail-based missile system there. Impressive!

[Buffalo]

The Chinese, as usual, are pretty good at lying - a direct-flow turbojet engine on an airplane is a thing long known and not invented by them. And they bashfully kept silent the champion’s speed ...

[NEXUS]

We are working on hypersonic aircraft, only in silence, without loud clucking. Recall at least the newly developed interceptor to replace the MIG-31. Moreover, this is not a rocket, but a combat vehicle.

[Corsair0304]

I understand everything - great speed, invulnerability for missiles and so on. and so on. BUT! And how is it sitting in the cabin? Eyes on the ass from acceleration do not fit? Well, let's say he flew into the reconnaissance area on his super-engine, took a picture (by the way, as I understand it, at normal speed, and not hell, he knows how many meters-second otherwise the quality of the shot will be frankly not ice) and during the reconnaissance period itself they didn’t shoot down the evil air defenses (we don’t fly by ourselves and don’t give others), but how about it, how to turn on the super-dviglo again and again the eyes on the ass?
Vague doubts torment me ...

[Platonich]

Most likely, he is a drone.

[Karlovar]

Most likely their goal is a hypersonic cruise missile, in the first stage ...

[Dwarfik]

And if, say, turn off such an apparatus ... as a mattress destroyer? The photo already has a very long train from the propulsion nozzle, similar to the full afterburner mode, short-term. Is stable flight available to them also?

[AlNikolaich]

It is known that MiG25 was able to accelerate faster than its passport speed, and the actual
maximum speed for him is unknown ... Maybe 3800, maybe 4000 km / h. The lantern began to melt ...
So here is the topic, to remove Mig25, replace the lamp and some structural elements, up to
unmanned option, and try to the maximum speed ... I believe it will accelerate to hypersound ...
But these are thoughts, thoughts ...

[Buffalo]

It will not accelerate. It’s easier to create something new with a different engine. What they are doing now.

[Tusv]

According to Lu Xiaodong, modern air defense systems are practically useless against hypersonic airplanes due to the sharply reduced flight time, since they do not have time to react and direct missiles.

We look at the performance characteristics of four hundred and smile.

[Buffalo]

China is the world champion in "one-piece STRETCHED" designs.
- They steal everything that is bad and copy. One misfortune is that they themselves can hardly invent anything, which is why engines are traditionally limping on their planes, primarily in terms of resource, but also in terms of parameters.

[Karlovar]

In the late forties, Japan exported ..... brooms !!! It was necessary to start somewhere, not to sit idly by. Moreover, even then they managed to mock with their brooms, they say substandard ....

[sssla]

The expert noted that the implementation of such a project requires the technology of a hypersonic ramjet engine, which so far has not been possessed by any country in the world.

And the Chinese have, and judging by the tone for a long time! What a funny situation)))))

[andj61]

Quote: Sid.74

SR-71 built a total of 12 pieces.

In total, 32 of them were built - including experimental ones. Https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird
In the early 80s, there were actually 14 weapons in service.
And about the Chinese plane - much is not clear. The achievement of hypersonic speed in itself is quite possible - American experimental rocket planes did this back in the late 60s and 70s. And the shuttles with "Buran" are also hypersonic. Yes, and the American drone NASA X-43 reached a speed of just under 10M. The thing is different - for operation now, you actually need TWO engines - one for speeds up to about 4000 km / h, and the other for higher speeds. And here it’s just a plug - it’s not possible to put two types of engines on the plane, and nobody has yet succeeded in combining them in one .. The Chinese could well put a direct-flow jet, and launch it either from another plane or with an additional solid fuel accelerator.
Yes, the glider is taken, judging by the appearance, serial

[Fotoceva62]

"Bison (1) RU Today, 08:47 ↑
This is not a photo. This is a photoshop drawing of the "Molniya" project. Details can be found on the website
www.buran.ru »

I know "Bison", and what is the gender difference in this case, it's just that the quality is high.
Well, September 1, 1957, you’ve got the first test (unsuccessful), but you’ve completed it, and this “Storm” product will be more complicated than the Chinese device. Yes, and a year for a minute already 1957.

[plow]

Poor Chinese. You look at their consumer goods and wonder how, besides, they cannot make a normal kitchen knife or a victorious drill, or pliers with soft sponges and handles break if you push hard. It is so loud to declare that their export tank is better than the Armata. Some super-long-range and ultra-precise "Polonaises" are being pushed to Belarusians. Copies of the su-33 x are better than the original, 5th generation fighters are invented before the Russians, etc.
I feel sorry for them, by God, therefore the Russian girl will sell them both the s-400 and the su-35, and much more will be sold, otherwise there will be a repetition of two opium wars or the Nanking massacre.

[Azitral]

1) Sorry, you are not talking about that. Equipment of such complexity as the fifth-generation aircraft, the fourth-generation nuclear submarine, and the "Armata" generation tank is IMPOSSIBLE to copy. There is a separate product, but there is no production technology, and there are thousands and thousands of such products in the aircraft. You rely on other people's ideas , but, without buying a license, you will inevitably have YOUR plane, your own nuclear submarine.More often worse, but sometimes better (like a Japanese-made "f-16").
2) It's not about what they have, but about the speed with which they moved to the front lines. To the most advanced. There are no analogues of their ballistic anti-ship missiles. According to experts, it casts doubt on the concept of "sea domination" of the United States, if not abolish it altogether. Even taking into account the Aegis with the MP3 rocket. We need to learn from the Chinese how to organize rapid development, and not hope that they have not reached the most advanced parameters and reliability in everything - this is much more useful. USA, imperceptibly, imperceptibly, this ability to work quickly, in many ways, seems to have lost.

[Victor-M]

China recently conducted its first test flight of a hypersonic aircraft, surpassing all modern supersonic aircraft in speed, including the American strategic supersonic reconnaissance aircraft SR-71 Blackbird.

Interestingly, the pilot was scraped off after the flight or simply painted over?

[loaln]

Why be surprised?
This is China. They say, not talk. They do things there, not cheeks. And, most importantly, they are not seen in mass selling. It is a self-cleaning united nation. Good luck to her! There is someone to take an example, if they trampled themselves into the mud by the most unbearable.

[Karlovar]

The road will be overcome by a walking .....

[TT62]

The MiG-25 in one of the countries of the Middle East was moving away from a missile with a TGS, after that it was true that it was sometimes trimmed with harmonica, but the result was positive.

[HMR333]

what improvements are you talking about what kind of hyper sound))))) I think that it’s not a secret for anyone how many rockets flies in hyper sound for up to 3 minutes, and less flammability gets into the plane so they turn on hyper sound for 10 seconds and remain without flare )))

[iouris]

The Americans flew to the moon, and there the Chinese was running. They ask: "How did you get here? According to our intelligence data, China will not be able to create a rocket to send people to the moon for another hundred years." The Chinese man replies: "We don't need a rocket: we got up one by one ..."

[1rl141]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The WAF wrote that it dispersed its MIG 31 to 3600.

With my own eyes I saw (on the radar screen, of course) how the MiG-31 easily caught up with and overtook the SR-71. The speed of the SR-71 was 3300-3400 km / h. For the MiG-31, catching the SR-71 is not a problem.

[TT62]

Where was it?

[igor.borov775]

There is nothing to refute here ordinary everyday life when the Thrush drives.

[1rl141]

Quote: TT62

Where was it?

1987 year. Barents Sea. SR-71 arrived every other day. So I have seen enough of them.

[a71]

Here, some paid tribute to the Chinese. One of the arguments is that they created ballistic anti-ship missiles, but the USA and the Russian Federation failed. So, against this idea, there is an assumption that when using such a missile by the aforementioned countries, the automation of the early warning of the opposite side may suggest that this is a nuclear attack. Well, the armahide will begin. Accordingly, such anti-ship missiles are no longer needed by anyone.