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The former head of the AHUPSU told the media about the reason why Sergei Aksyonov did not receive a diploma from a military university in Simferopol

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From the moment Sergei Aksyonov headed the Republic of Crimea, the Ukrainian media poured a lot of “dirt” at him. One of the most favorite accusations sounded like this: in 1993, Aksyonov was expelled from the cadets of the Simferopol Higher Military-Political Construction School "for lack of discipline." At the same time, the Ukrainian media did not report how it happened that the undisciplined cadet completed the entire course of study and successfully passed the final exams.


The former head of the AHUPSU told the media about the reason why Sergei Aksyonov did not receive a diploma from a military university in Simferopol


Today in the materials RIA News there was information from the former head of the military high school in Simferopol, Vitaly Pavlichenko, who told what exactly Aksyonov had been “undisciplined”. According to Pavlichenko, Aksyonov really did not receive a degree from the All-Union School of Institutions of Labor, having successfully passed all exams. The reason that Aksyonov was not awarded the diploma is that he, along with several other cadets of the military high school, refused to take the oath of allegiance to the new state - Ukraine - after the collapse of the USSR. The fact is that Aksyonov entered the university in 1989, but after two years the country which Aksyonov was going to serve with other cadets ceased to exist. Before the cadets got a choice - to swear to the Ukrainian Armed Forces or not. Sergei Aksyonov was among those who refused to take the oath to Ukraine.

Vitaly Pavlichenko:
Aksyonov entered 1989 year and successfully studied until 1993 year, but due to the well-known events in our country and the collapse of the Soviet Union, many cadets were forced to make a choice - to remain in the service in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, take the oath and receive the so-called "free diploma" , having gone to the reserve in the rank of lieutenant, or abandon the Ukrainian oath and return home. Sergey Aksyonov was among those who chose the last option.


It is known that Sergey Aksyonov was born in the Moldovan city of Balti. His parents during the years of his son's education in Simferopol lived in Moldova, Sergey’s father Valery was the head of the Russian community of Moldova. The oath of allegiance to Ukraine was not included in the plans of Sergei Aksyonov.
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  1. figwam
    figwam 21 September 2015 20: 00 New
    +136
    Sergei Aksyonov was among those who refused to take the oath of office to Ukraine.
    This is an act! Bravo!
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 06 New
      +80
      Thought, the next chernukha, poured mud tubs ...

      Respect and respect for both, and namesake Aksyonov, and the author of the article ...
      1. pilot8878
        pilot8878 21 September 2015 20: 54 New
        +94
        Sergei Aksyonov was among those who refused to take the oath of office to Ukraine.

        He respected him even more.
        1. Arh
          Arh 21 September 2015 21: 17 New
          +33
          Did the right thing, Man !!!
          1. Yars
            Yars 22 September 2015 12: 53 New
            +1
            here you have to set such at all posts and ranks, take an example from Aksyonov, comrade officials!
            1. CRASH
              CRASH 22 September 2015 20: 03 New
              -10
              Give you God's brains, they have already cut 16 billion rubles for the privatization of Crimean wines.
              1. Twice RUSSIAN
                Twice RUSSIAN 24 September 2015 11: 16 New
                0
                Lies. All Crimean plants belong to the state. A week ago he came from the Crimea, was engaged in wine tasting, tasted Inkerman, champagne from the New World, wine from Koktebel, Masandrovsky wines, all labels indicate that the factories are state-owned, that is, belong to the Russian Federation.
                1. Mista_dj
                  Mista_dj 24 September 2015 16: 27 New
                  +2
                  You are told about the cut on privatization, not about who they belong to.
                  The director of Massandra, who was set up by IM (Yana Pavlenko) openly before the referendum, wrote that: dill is indivisible and our self-defense is gangs!
                  And everything got away with it!
                  Rides in jeeps and does not blow in Haer.
                2. Chief Officer
                  Chief Officer 8 August 2016 13: 16 New
                  +1
                  Talk nonsense!
                  And speak out of ignorance.
                  And if you don’t know, which X open your mouth at all !?
                  On the labels it says to him ...
                  There, the leadership - some thieves who were still yushchu and Yanuka, took turns licking a point.
          2. gav6757
            gav6757 22 September 2015 18: 16 New
            0
            That's who you need to vote for after Putin, a real man, with a string!
            Not for Medvedev, with his effective manager Taburetkin and his wife’s sister - Vasilyeva, but for Sergei Aksenov - a normal Russian man !!!
        2. lecturer
          lecturer 21 September 2015 22: 15 New
          +29
          Thank you, Aleksey! For the "Farewell of the Slav"!
        3. pvv113
          pvv113 22 September 2015 01: 36 New
          +11
          This is a favorite piece of the film. Strongly shown !!!
        4. veteran66
          veteran66 22 September 2015 12: 57 New
          +4
          But the artists are what !!!! Bravo!!!
        5. gav6757
          gav6757 22 September 2015 18: 12 New
          +3
          Generally in the subject passage ... to tears!
        6. yawa63
          yawa63 24 September 2015 11: 22 New
          0
          I watched this story hundreds of times - tears welling up - be damned all those who have torn apart the Great Country!
    2. 17085
      17085 21 September 2015 20: 08 New
      +50
      They wanted to cheat, but it turned out - they "promoted" ...

      Well, what? ... Glory to Ukraine?
      1. fedulov_e
        fedulov_e 22 September 2015 08: 55 New
        +5
        drinks Saala! Saala!
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    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 21 September 2015 20: 16 New
      +52
      If a person at age 22 is capable of making such a conscious choice, then you can rely on him.
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 21 September 2015 20: 46 New
        +55
        I remember in 1994 the gathering of schoolmates, 15 years of service, the people are already majors, lieutenant colonels, only those who served in Russia were lucky, and those who in the former Soviet republics refused to swear a second time to Starleys by lieutenant colonels, but in their homeland! We sang, drank and rejoiced that we did everything right, otherwise it could not be, these are the genes of the Russian army, they either exist or they do not, and the rest is demagogy !!! soldier
        1. romanru4
          romanru4 21 September 2015 20: 53 New
          -45
          Why not overshoot? The main thing to start! Then you will like it, you can and more, and more ... Where the ass is warm, there is homeland!
          1. starpom
            starpom 21 September 2015 22: 25 New
            +16
            Quote: romanru4
            Why not overshoot?

            Is that black humor? Or at least once reassigned?
            1. arane
              arane 21 September 2015 22: 48 New
              +7
              Quote: starpom
              Quote: romanru4
              Why not overshoot?

              Is that black humor? Or at least once reassigned?

              Actually this is called sarcasm, plus him!
              Dear Romanra, you are careful, there are a lot of gloomy people, they don’t understand hidden jokes! Put a neighing emoticon at the end, it helps sometimes laughing
              1. Doomph
                Doomph 22 September 2015 07: 07 New
                +3
                For him at the moment, these are the pros, not the cons.
            2. demo
              demo 22 September 2015 10: 09 New
              +3
              The person has humor, turning into sarcasm. Not everyone understood, but together they began to reap the minus.
            3. veteran66
              veteran66 22 September 2015 13: 00 New
              +1
              Urya-patriots with their stupid idea are already completely crazy. For those who are on an armored train under the red flag - this is a joke! Laughing after zhp!
          2. kerosene
            kerosene 21 September 2015 22: 36 New
            +12
            the oath is an oath and it is given only once
            1. vidmid
              vidmid 22 September 2015 09: 44 New
              -10
              Quote: kerosene
              the oath is an oath and it is given only once

              But what about the Golden Eagle and the military in the Crimea? re-sworn to Russia?
              1. pilot8878
                pilot8878 22 September 2015 09: 48 New
                +13
                Russia did not burn them alive and did not shoot unarmed. And after kneeling.
                1. vidmid
                  vidmid 22 September 2015 09: 54 New
                  -5
                  Quote: pilot8878
                  Russia did not burn them alive and did not shoot unarmed. And after kneeling.

                  So Ukraine seems to be the same.
                  This is the junta - yes. and would have fought against the junta. in the DNI or LC.
                  and they immediately fled and re-swore, and they are not visible in Novorossii.
                  and why ?
                  1. lukke
                    lukke 23 September 2015 11: 17 New
                    -1
                    This is the junta - yes. and would have fought against the junta. in the DNI or LC.
                    and they immediately fled and re-swore, and they are not visible in Novorossii.
                    and why ?
                    it is with the cheers-patriots now everything is clear - there is "white", there (where indicated on the box) "black". And I remember my officers who entered schools during the break-up of the USSR, and some already studied there at that time. And with what hassle they later transferred to adjacent schools, but already on the territory of the Russian Federation, some graduated, and then transferred to the troops. There was such a short period. By the way, Aksenov if he really wanted to, could take the documents and transfer to any political school on the territory of the Russian Federation, but he didn’t want to see much - his parents already lived in Simferopol, the army was not held in high esteem, commerce and beautiful imported candy wrappers were everywhere. On which Seryozha also pecked - he was in the business structures controlled by the Shoe. And still he has in his team come from that criminal system. By the way, in Crimea, especially in Simferopol, this is not a secret and people look at it in a figurative way - I didn’t run an ordinary bull with an iron, which means that I’m law-abiding! And Crimeans are hard to surprise with this, after the president with two convictions)))
                    And the former boss licked the current chapter! Ask my school principal about some cadet, at best depicts reverie, and the Simferopol school was also not small. I think he was simply asked to give the image of a hero of the current government ...
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                  3. user3970
                    user3970 23 September 2015 18: 00 New
                    -1
                    Yes, it's the cops! Rubbish ! Shameful wolves. You can buy them for three pennies. No wonder that before the revolution, army officers did not salute the gendarmes. Disdain.
                  4. Siberian
                    Siberian 23 September 2015 20: 48 New
                    +1
                    So the junta reigned in Ukraine with the approval of the Ukrainian majority, it is impossible to fight against those who swore allegiance. There is only one logical way out - to turn around and leave, since it is no longer needed. And in the Crimea there, and in Novorosiya. In fact, as a percentage of the population of Donbass, Russia their minuscule, therefore, is not visible.
              2. kodxnumx
                kodxnumx 22 September 2015 11: 35 New
                +3
                They did not overshoot but did what the oath to the motherland should have done, and this is for all Russian people RUSSIA!
              3. veteran66
                veteran66 22 September 2015 13: 03 New
                -8
                The question is interesting. Urya-patriots, the answer!
              4. Twilight
                Twilight 23 September 2015 06: 29 New
                0
                They returned home. Indeed, many have families, and in that turmoil from the beginning of the 90s, try to figure out what will happen tomorrow. And by the way, if it weren’t for BERKUT it is not yet known what would happen to the Outskirts before ....
          3. zubkoff46
            zubkoff46 22 September 2015 00: 17 New
            +7
            Absolutely bad - zamusnuvat ... A joke of humor is called ...
          4. Sasha 19871987
            Sasha 19871987 22 September 2015 12: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: romanru4
            romanru4
            Why not overshoot? The main thing to start! Then you will like it, you can and more, and more ... Where the ass is warm, there is homeland!

            so you, my friend, you need to send your belongings to Africa for permanent residence, and it’s hot to your ass and you can swear a lot there ... you will become a white boy of some local black baron ...
          5. DPN
            DPN 23 September 2015 20: 43 New
            0
            That's right, in 91 they did so and allowed the students like the Nemtsov to ruin the country.
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 21 September 2015 20: 31 New
      +12
      Whatever you say, but Aksenov well done! His candidacy is consistent with the future president of Russia.
      1. pilot8878
        pilot8878 21 September 2015 21: 01 New
        +16
        Quote: siberalt
        Whatever you say, but Aksenov well done! His candidacy is consistent with the future President of Russia.

        In any case, he doesn’t look like an iPhone: decisive, harsh with the enemy, but not cruel. Let's see how successful the manager is, and perhaps we should vote for him.
        1. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 22 New
          +1
          ... let's see how successful the manager is, ...

          .... But this is the most important .... We will wait for the end of the year and the arrival of the Audit Chamber of the Russian Federation .... lol
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 20 New
        +1
        ..... His candidacy is consistent with the future president of Russia ....

        ...Are you sure about that????.... lol ..... What, what, but he knows how to talk .... wink
        1. veteran66
          veteran66 22 September 2015 13: 04 New
          +1
          Zampolit)))
      3. vidmid
        vidmid 22 September 2015 09: 45 New
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Whatever you say, but Aksenov well done! His candidacy is consistent with the future president of Russia.

        Actually, Aksyonov from gangsters.
        Ask any Crimean.
    6. Kent0001
      Kent0001 21 September 2015 20: 42 New
      +8
      Aksenov is our MAN !!! Originally.
    7. Dmitry Toderes
      Dmitry Toderes 21 September 2015 22: 06 New
      +7
      This is his willpower! Refuse a diploma when it is actually in your hands ...
      what
      1. veteran66
        veteran66 22 September 2015 13: 06 New
        0
        Have you read the article carefully? The diploma is free. He graduated from college - free. A specialty is a history teacher or, if lucky, a sociologist-psychologist. So the choice is small.
  2. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 21 September 2015 20: 02 New
    +25
    Man!!! good Respect! I would go with him in intelligence soldier
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      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 21 September 2015 20: 19 New
        +10
        Quote: tomket
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Respect! I would go with him in intelligence

        with a brother from an organized criminal group in intelligence?)

        You see, the censor reread. I’ll forget.
        1. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 30 New
          +2
          .... I respect! I would go with him in intelligence
          with a brother from an organized criminal group in intelligence?)
          You see, the censor reread. I’ll forget.

          ... Well, unfortunately (or fortunately ???) all the witnesses of the stormy 90s in Crimea are alive .... hi
  3. Hubun
    Hubun 21 September 2015 20: 02 New
    +15
    now they are digging out what else the KGB was recruited to the school, and has been preparing annexation for all the years
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 23 New
      0
      .... now they are digging out what else the KGB had been recruited to the school, and all the years it was preparing annexation ...

      ..... laughing wassat laughing ...... Thin trolling !!!! good
  4. Maksus
    Maksus 21 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +16
    Many did so at that time, did not want to get under the "yellow-blakid ensign"
    1. Rader
      Rader 21 September 2015 20: 15 New
      +14
      We must understand that it is precisely such people that Russia owes! If, in those troubled times, the sailors took their course: swore allegiance to Ukraine, maintained the condition of the ships, like the current Svidomo, then there would be no Black Sea Fleet, neither Russia, nor Ukraine! That would be all and over, and in Sevastopol for 5-10 years Berks would have stood at the berth walls ...
    2. figwam
      figwam 21 September 2015 20: 44 New
      +6
      Many did so at the time

      That's what the OFFICERS did!
      http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3103
  5. horoh
    horoh 21 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +8
    The real patriot of Russia !!! Which just prove ukrosmi.
  6. meriem1
    meriem1 21 September 2015 20: 03 New
    +17
    That's cool!!!! This is the suit! Not every young specialist, having studied from beginning to end, will risk a career, but in essence his future for the sake of political preferences. Here they are Russian !!! Immediately remembered the Captain of the submarine Janissary! Mamkina’s mink))) Orchestra ... March of the Slavyanka. Crew .. Step march !!!!
    1. avt
      avt 21 September 2015 20: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: meriem1
      That's cool!!!! This is the suit!

      Again, where is the main thing who is now Aksyonov. laughing How’s Zheglov’s answer to Brick - ,, Either you’ll erase all your teeth to the roots, I’ll pooh ... my will always be over yours. " laughing
  7. sever.56
    sever.56 21 September 2015 20: 04 New
    +14
    Well done! The act of a real peasant, not a whore trading in the oath and the Motherland! Even if he does not have a diploma from a military university, he is a real officer in matters that he did during the difficult time of the reunification of Crimea with Russia! That's right his father raised!
  8. andrewkor
    andrewkor 21 September 2015 20: 05 New
    +17
    “72 meters” recalled how “Janissary” and his comrades refused to swear allegiance to “Ruin”
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 21 September 2015 21: 00 New
      +7
      Quote: andrewkor
      “72 meters” recalled how “Janissary” and his comrades refused to swear allegiance to “Ruin”

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  9. Yarik
    Yarik 21 September 2015 20: 11 New
    +26
    Bravo !!! My father also left the Zhytomyr Panzer. To Russia. For the same reasons.
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      1. Yarik
        Yarik 21 September 2015 21: 03 New
        +6
        Of course. He had previously served in Smolensk, in Zhitomir it was just a temporary appointment. And conspiracy in the Pushcha ... the shame and pain of many, but what is there, of the entire former country.
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 21 September 2015 22: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: Yarik
          And conspiracy in the "forest" ... the shame and pain of many, but what is there, of the entire former country.

          Indeed, Yaroslav, everyone who has experienced this in their own skin will never be forgotten.

          That's probably so.
  10. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 21 September 2015 20: 12 New
    +7
    Well done! The act of a real man with a sense of civic responsibility!
    Of these men, having a conscience and honor, the foundation of the state is formed.
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  12. azbukin77
    azbukin77 21 September 2015 20: 22 New
    +2
    Real Russian character! ! ! Officer with a capital letter!
  13. moskowit
    moskowit 21 September 2015 20: 35 New
    +4
    Worthy act and choice of a worthy Man!
  14. dFG
    dFG 21 September 2015 20: 37 New
    +14
    By the way, it was possible to give Aksenov a diploma, now as an exception, because all the exams have been passed and he swore allegiance
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    1. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 21 September 2015 20: 58 New
      +3
      This march will not solve anything ... but the heart is getting warmer ... hi
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 21 September 2015 21: 24 New
        +5
        Quote: Hyppopotut
        This march will not solve anything ...

        Who knows. what The Butterfly Effect states that radical changes can be caused by much more minor actions. yes What if this is precisely what is called “at the right time, in the right place”? And then the Anglo-Saxons will definitely have BIG problems ... fellow
  16. dali
    dali 21 September 2015 20: 38 New
    +4
    There are people with soul and heart and with brains !!!

    Sergey Valerievich ... another hundred years of your life to you !!!

    drinks
  17. _Brown_
    _Brown_ 21 September 2015 20: 38 New
    +3
    Well done, praised!
  18. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 21 September 2015 20: 50 New
    +5
    And they wanted to discredit him in the eyes of the Russians? lol
    And as if the light began to fool
  19. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 21 September 2015 20: 56 New
    +6
    Yes sir! Only this way and not otherwise! ....Orchestra! Farewell to the Slav! soldier
  20. Bradypodidae
    Bradypodidae 21 September 2015 21: 12 New
    0
    I wrote a lot, but the browser was buggy and everything went wrong. I was too lazy to rewrite. So short. I studied at the Higher School of Economics at 1991-93. After 2 courses I left, which I do not regret. In 1992, they took everything from us, except cadets from other republics. Military tickets, and when they returned (on the same day), there was already a note that he had taken the oath of allegiance to Ukraine. Nobody asked for our consent. I don’t think that it was different in other companies and senior courses. So at the time graduation, Aksenov at least a year was considered to have taken the oath.
    But even if he somehow managed to remain without a mark in the military, it’s still nonsense. Without an oath he would not have become an officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and he would have been given a diploma to his beloved. Guys, you can not believe me, but just turn on the logic. There citizens from other republics studied at the expense of Ukraine and no one asked about the oath. I graduated from college. Do you want to stay in Ukraine? -No. Then here is a diploma and good luck. In 1995, at least it was still so. So all this is a fairy tale from Aksenov himself.
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 22: 14 New
      +2
      The last issue of Riga VVAIU im.Ya. Alksnis was in 1992 year. And Latvians, before the official transfer of the school territory in 1993, no one allowed there. And about any oath of Latvia, those of the guys who were in the last issue of the RVVAIU have not heard
    2. arane
      arane 21 September 2015 22: 56 New
      +6
      Alexander, I can’t disagree with you. Anyone would have given him a diploma if he passed the GOS and defended the diploma! With or without oath!
      Regarding the oath, the mark on the military ticket us. Take parting! If there is no document on taking the oath with a personal signature, then there is no conversation! This is the cornerstone
  21. pirate
    pirate 21 September 2015 21: 30 New
    +6
    The oath is given to his country once and for a lifetime. Those who are faithful to the oath, bravo !!!
  22. Arkuda
    Arkuda 21 September 2015 22: 00 New
    +1
    I understand him very well. A man with charisma. I would like to see him as a future receiver ...
  23. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 22: 07 New
    +6
    With 929 GLITs in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, many people left. No one held them back. Although among them were very cool specialists. True, one of them, Vladimir Toponar piloted the plane. who ditched a bunch of people in Lviv. The first Ukrainian cosmonaut Leonid Kadenyuk also remembered sharply about Ukrainian roots when he was offered to fly to the Shuttle.
    But there were people who were faithful to the oath, which was given once. Two majors were transferred to our department. Leonid Ogienko is a senior engineer on diabetes for one of the training regiments of the Kharkov Flight School and Viktor Kozyr is an engineer on diabetes for the entire regiment. Despite the pressure exerted on them by Ukrainian leaders. the guys turned out to be real officers, refused to take the Ukrainian oath.
    Arrived in Akhtubinsk, in fact, into the unknown. By the way, In 929 GLITS, their career was much better than if they had taken the Ukrainian oath. In 1995, I met one of the test pilots at Chkalovskaya, who transferred to our former branch in Primorsky (near Feodosia), which later became the Ukrainian flight test center. What did they feel there ... AHZ. But this guy realized very quickly that nothing good was expected for him ... quit UkroVVS ... and got a job in Russia ... in OKB im. Tupolev ... test pilot.
    Some of the officers who transferred from 929 GLITs to the Ukrainian Air Force dealt with issues of strategic aviation testing (Tu-95MS, Tu-160). And now, as far as I know, Americans were very interested in them. So taking a second oath, the deal doesn’t seem to have ended
  24. sabakina
    sabakina 21 September 2015 22: 10 New
    +2
    Sorry to be in the dark.
    Aksyonov said: "Crimea is 95% provided with Russian products."
    We watch the video and think why the blockade of Crimea was needed. Well, it’s clear that the evil Russian customs slows down the trucks!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 September 2015 22: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: sabakina
      Well, it’s clear that the evil Russian customs slows down the trucks!

      Moreover, pridy.urki, at first they grind something about our border guards, and then they themselves say that these eccentrics put a blockade on the letter "m". And imbitsil, chirping about electricity supply, probably does not suspect that winter is coming and Russia will make big gas concessions only in exchange for the normal supply of Crimea. There will be nothing to bran supply, blackmail and will fly in an adult way. yes
    2. k174oun7
      k174oun7 22 September 2015 06: 50 New
      +1
      According to the customs and border dill officers, it turns out that the Russian side impedes the passage of trucks on Ukrainian territory, i.e. hands of dill themselves, and the so-called activists help this. There is another "zrada".
  25. Prokrust
    Prokrust 21 September 2015 22: 11 New
    +3
    In 1993, in the HVVVKIU RV, it was also so ... And it seems to me who left then for Russia were not mistaken! Well, certainly no one regrets his decision
    soldier !
  26. Evgeniy30
    Evgeniy30 21 September 2015 22: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: romanru4
    Why not overshoot? The main thing to start! Then you will like it, you can and more, and more ... Where the ass is warm, there is homeland!

    Probably. For cockroaches .....
  27. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 22: 22 New
    +29
    In 1991, after the collapse of the USSR, the 100th Air Regiment, commanded by Timur Apakidze, refused to take the Ukrainian oath, and the commander himself also rejected an offer to head the Georgian Air Force. “They swear an oath only once,” he explained, and, together with the pilots of the regiment and the battle flag, he spontaneously flew to Severomorsk. There he was also appointed commander of the only 279th separate naval fighter aviation regiment in Russia, and in 1994 - commander of a mixed naval aviation division of the Northern Fleet. The following year, for the excellent development of the Su-33 and the training of fighter pilots for Admiral Kuznetsov, he was awarded the title of Hero of Russia.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 21 September 2015 22: 51 New
      +3
      Read more about Timur Avtandilovich Apakidze
      http://chtoby-pomnili.com/page.php?id=319
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 23: 41 New
        +2
        You can write a lot about Timur Apakidze. It was a real Warrior !!!
        From one of the forums:
        The period from December 1991 to March 1992 (from the Bialowieza Agreements to the mass adoption of the Ukrainian oath) is an extremely difficult time. All his survivors remembered hard and reluctantly.

        A record of Timur Apakidze’s story has been preserved: “Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of the leadership adopted an orientation toward Ukraine. I found out that deputy. Head of the Center, Colonel Bezogogi organized an underground Union of Ukrainian Officers. There they discussed all these issues of taking the Ukrainian oath ...

        The head of the Center, Colonel Bakulin Gennady Georgievich, invited me and said: “Timur, there is one circumstance that you must know. Each officer — from the regiment commander and above — must answer an interview when he is appointed to the post on one difficult question: will you fight with Russia or will you not, if the interests of Ukraine require it? ”...

        When Rear Admiral Kozhin raised the flag of Ukraine in Sevastopol and declared that it was the territory of Ukraine, Kasatonov (the commander of the CIS Black Sea Fleet - A.M.) surrounded them with the Marine Corps ... And Bezogogov landed here a link of Su-25 aircraft, attack aircraft with cluster bombs. Pilots on these aircraft were planned by all members of the Union of Officers of Ukraine. I approach him: “Well, Viktor Ivanovich, will you really bomb the Soviet Marines?” They then also had the Soviet naval flag. They did not raise Andreevsky in the Black Sea Fleet. He says: "If the interests of Ukraine require, then I will bomb." I say: “Viktor Ivanovich, then I also officially explain to you - not a single plane from this airfield with suspended bombs will take off. Then you will tell future widows why their husbands died. ” He generally said specifically: “Timur, you know me. I will start the blood and I will write to you and Bakulin. And you will be guilty of driving a wedge between two fraternal peoples. There’s still no one in Nagorno-Karabakh can figure out who shot the first ... "

        At that time I could do anything I wanted, I was ready to raise fighters into the sky ... But Bakulin invited me to him and says: “Timur, we sat in the same cabin yesterday, and today we must kill each other. For what? This garrison is not worth even a single human life. ” As he looked into the water: a month later, Yeltsin and Kravchuk kiss passionately in Yalta. And we would find out here - leave this airfield in Russia or give it to Ukraine ... "
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 23: 42 New
          +2
          Read more.
          Moscow surrendered us

          According to the Bialowieza Agreements, parts of the central subordination went to Russia. In Crimea, these included the Center for Combat Use and Retraining of Naval Aviation Flight Personnel with an airfield in Saki. He was directly subordinate to the headquarters of the Navy Aviation. And the State Flight Test Center. Chkalov (GLIC) at the Kirovskoye aerodrome near Feodosia. It was run by the Air Force commander.

          To everyone with whom I had to talk, I asked the question: how did it happen that parts of the central subordination suddenly took the Ukrainian oath? And he received the same answer with different variations: “This is the fault of Moscow. She did not have the mind, courage, perseverance. Moscow surrendered all our garrisons without a fight. The generals were afraid to take the initiative, they were afraid for their seats ... "

          Colonel Bakulin reports: “I constantly reported the situation to Moscow, to the commander of the Navy Aviation, Colonel-General Potapov. And invariably heard from him: “You stay there. We will not leave you. The issue is being resolved. ” The deputy arrived to us. Commander of the Russian Navy Aviation, Lieutenant General Rogov. To coordinate our actions. He said that we are behaving correctly, that we must hold on. And then I get information that the plane of the Air Force Commander of Ukraine General Vasilyev flies to us in Saki with the requirement to ensure a landing. I answer that I obey only the Commander-in-Chief of the Maritime Aviation of Russia and I will not accept this aircraft. So they sat in Sevastopol. They flew out from there by helicopter, and Legless provided them with a landing here. They come to me and Rogov at headquarters. Several Ukrainian generals. Behave correctly. They started a conversation about the reassignment of the Center to Ukraine. I again answer that I am only following the orders of the Commander-in-Chief of the Maritime Aviation of Russia, and their orders are an empty place for me. Then Rogov tells me publicly: "We are on a foreign territory and must reckon with the laws of another state." They immediately perked up, and Vasiliev read out the order on my dismissal and on the appointment of the Legless as the Ukrainian head of the Center. So judge for yourself. ”

          In Kirovsky everything was even simpler, and therefore more cynical. As one of the pilots recalled: “They read a telegram to us before the formation. Commander of the Russian Air Force, Lieutenant General Ayupov: “We do not see prospects for further use. We offer to go under the jurisdiction of Ukraine. ”

          Another eyewitness said that the head of the GLIC, Colonel Zhuchkov, before the system announced the transition to the service of Ukraine: “Moscow, they say, left us, but here the prospects are serious, we will live well. Then we learned that it was his personal initiative. He had no command. Ukraine promised him the rank of general. ”


          http://forum.civru.com/?action=vthread&forum=51&topic=5507&page=119#12
          I advise you to look at the link. There are many interesting things about this period.
  28. tigeret
    tigeret 21 September 2015 22: 50 New
    +9
    I do not respect Aksyonov. I think that to give an assessment to a person, one should at least know his past. As for the oath, everything is not obvious. In the coming days I will find out how it really was. I left the ranks of the SA in 1991, like many other officers, because I thought and still think that the oath is given once in a lifetime. It is like an oath. And you know, I’m still proud of my act. UBD. Wounded and contusion survived. The awards are still somehow inconvenient to wear. It hurts a lot of mummers around. And I can’t get used to the fact that they are being sold and bought.
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 21 September 2015 23: 24 New
      +14
      In response, I will tell you my point of view without knowing anything about Aksenov. I remember how the hair on my head and not only got up when it was brewed in Ukraine. Killings in Kiev, tanks, armored personnel carriers in the Donbas, pruschy on a peaceful people, the first victims. I remember in the news Aksenov’s speech was sharp, irrevocable, and then I realized that even with the Crimea the junta would not work. A little tears from the eyes did not splash. THANKS FOR THIS ONE!
      1. Kilo-11
        Kilo-11 22 September 2015 07: 21 New
        +2
        Having our troops behind us, we can "push" any speeches.
    2. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 34 New
      +1
      .... I think that to give an assessment to a person, one should at least know his past ...

      .... Dark southern night ..... lol
  29. tigeret
    tigeret 21 September 2015 22: 52 New
    +9
    And why is it my Crimean Ukrainian flag. Is Crimea not RUSSIA here.
    1. pilot8878
      pilot8878 22 September 2015 09: 59 New
      +3
      Communication through the ruin goes, and from there the flag.
  30. Buffalo
    Buffalo 21 September 2015 23: 04 New
    +1
    My classmate graduated from the same school as Aksyonov, somewhere in 78. He had the opportunity to choose the distribution among the first (excellent student), any group of Soviet troops abroad could be chosen, one could choose a place in the USSR. But, after all, political instructors were being trained there, and he chose BAM, the most remote region, Verkhnebureinsky. In summer - Marie, but heat, in winter - cold and icy winds. At first they lived in the barracks, as in the film "Officers". - He immediately went there with his family. A year later they gave a half of the trailer - got rich! From BAM they suddenly sent to Moscow, for the urgent completion of the Olympic facilities - a cycle track, Izmailovskaya hotel, rowing canal ... They gave normal housing, the children were arranged, with food - excellent, after continuous pasta on BAM.
    And here is the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Again went with the whole family, and of course, everyone received a solid exposure. Now he is retired, lives in Thule, is registered in Czerny. Works on landscape design.
  31. Sergey-72
    Sergey-72 21 September 2015 23: 20 New
    +2
    In the summer of 1993 he graduated from Kirov SPVOKU, with me in a compartment the construction lieutenant from Simferopol was traveling to ZabVO. So no comment.
    1. kenig1
      kenig1 22 September 2015 02: 20 New
      0
      I graduated from Mos in 1993. WOKU. Many Ukrainians studied, someone left to serve in Russia, someone left to serve in Ukraine, the only difference was in the issue. Those who remained in Russia were awarded the diploma in Red Square, those who went to serve in Ukraine on the parade ground of the school.
  32. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 21 September 2015 23: 23 New
    +3
    For those who remain faithful to the oath given once and for all
  33. atamankko
    atamankko 22 September 2015 00: 02 New
    +4
    A man who can say ... I have the honor.
  34. PValery53
    PValery53 22 September 2015 01: 09 New
    +5
    In Aksyonov, the vein of a reliable Russian officer is felt. The fact that he already twice in the crucial moments of his life remained faithful to his homeland - Russia - says a lot. Dostoyin.
  35. yuriy55
    yuriy55 22 September 2015 01: 44 New
    +3
    In life, you can stumble many times, make mistakes and not quite right actions. But a time comes when life puts everyone to the test. Aksyonov’s participation in the events that took place in Crimea in 2014 leaves no doubt about the strength of spirit and firmness of the character of this person.
  36. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 22 September 2015 03: 58 New
    0
    Aksyonov used to inspire respect from me, but now respect for him has been squared!
  37. Mista_dj
    Mista_dj 22 September 2015 05: 11 New
    +2
    The material presented in the article is bullshit!
    It’s sad and funny to see how grown-up people are being carried on this cheap thing ...
    You probably still have tangerines - Santa Claus brings?
    PS:
    1. For reference: a resident of Simferopol from time immemorial, Soviet times to the present.
    2. In sympathy for dill - not seen.
    3. I do not like lies. From any side, it did not come.
    1. svu93
      svu93 23 September 2015 06: 57 New
      0
      I confirm! A man with charisma, strong-willed! But you won’t throw words out of a song — in 90 he was a bright figure in certain circles, called organized crime groups. If I am not mistaken, he was called in those circles by the Goblin.)))
      However, this does not prevent him from being a patriot of Russia !!))
  38. Wolka
    Wolka 22 September 2015 05: 13 New
    -2
    In a word, Aksenov is an officer, and that’s all ...
    1. pinhead
      pinhead 24 September 2015 16: 04 New
      0
      an officer is one who, after school, put on officer epaulettes and carried them with honor to DMB or death
  39. Russia
    Russia 22 September 2015 06: 16 New
    +2
    He himself left and brought Crimeans with Crimea! good
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 22 September 2015 09: 39 New
      +2
      .... He left and brought Crimeans with Crimea! ...

      .... He himself would not have gone far .... If not for the GDP .... I remember how the referendum was postponed 4 (four !!!!) times (from May 25 to the end of April, then to the end of March and then on March 16 ) .... Remember the chronicle of events in Ukraine at this time .... Thanks GDP !!!! .... hi
      1. Siberian
        Siberian 23 September 2015 21: 16 New
        +1
        Did you postpone the referendum? In my opinion, everything was in order, in accordance with international laws: the local councils convened their congress, the proclamation of an independent republic, the republican authorities set up a referendum with the councils and decided on the issues and the timing of the referendum itself.
        And right after the coup in Kiev, Aksyonov simply said in his own words: the Bandera bastard would not go to the Crimea (even before the connection with Russia and Putin), before the “visit” to military units. And volunteers stood up on Perekop, and not the army, later Cossacks pulled themselves up with a field kitchen, tents and in large numbers.
        And he simply surprised with calm: Kiev server with a base of voters blocked? Anyway, there will be a referendum, we foresaw this and copied them in advance. The GDP certainly didn’t.
        1. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 24 September 2015 09: 33 New
          +2
          ... The referendum was postponed? ....

          ... Well, in general, there is something more visible on the site for these events, and there is more information ... It was not so simple here, as the central media presented .... Read better the comment below tigeret .... There in general, everything was as it was .... And not all ... hi
  40. fleet
    fleet 22 September 2015 07: 31 New
    0
    Well done! Our man!
  41. tigeret
    tigeret 22 September 2015 08: 38 New
    +3
    I support the opinion of Mista_Dj. Not everything is as clear as being presented. An officer is not a rank but a state of mind. Once you mess up or lie and never and no one will consider such a person a real officer. Aksenov’s merit was only in the fact that he showed firmness and was ready to take decisive action. Well, and who stood behind him and how everything was really known to a very limited circle of people. Mostly, Strelkov decided everything with his people. Well, thanks to the Sevastopol residents and their Golden Eagle who blocked the border. There was no day and Aksyonov was heard. Then Konstantinov proved himself. Well, then Aksyonov reappeared. If you follow the entire chronology of events, you will see many inconsistencies in the official version. Clearly, one question with the Crimea was decided by V.V. PUTIN and it was his personal decision which was not supported by the so-called old Chekists. It's my personal opinion. Which happened after talking with some of the former colleagues who are in power. I want to remind you that 90 percent of officials and ministers in Crimea remained the same. Yet from Ukraine. And this is a merit of AKSYONOV personally. It is he who personally puts forward and defends them. I understand that from far away we know what kind of person this is. But I think that all the same, here in Crimea we know better how everything was and what is happening now in the Crimea. I was present among the guests on March 18 at the signing of the Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Crimea on the admission of the Republic of Crimea to the Russian Federation and the formation of new entities within the Russian Federation. On the sidelines, it was promised that officials would be sent from Moscow. They would do as in Chechnya. Where at first officials from Russia led and then local cadres. But something did not work out.
    1. hahanvik
      hahanvik 22 September 2015 19: 48 New
      +2
      Of course, without support from Moscow, Aksenov could not have done anything. If you are a resident of Crimea, then remember how the first president of the Republic of Crimea, Meshkov, after his election, went to the EBN in Moscow with a request to support joining Russia. But EBN did not even accept him. But Meshkov was not forgiven, and where is he? So here everything has grown together and Aksenov and Putin. Well, and something else
  42. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 22 September 2015 08: 47 New
    -4
    As I understand it, the next president of Russia does not see other candidates
    PS only now, as if before the election, I didn’t see the hitch, otherwise this career will end.
    1. soratnik
      soratnik 22 September 2015 09: 42 New
      +2
      I think that unfortunately he will not be allowed to rise. There's a party in the Kremlin. And the arrival of a person from the side will certainly entail the dispersal of lizuns. In addition, his administrative resource is clearly weak. If you look at the technology by which Putin came to the Kremlin, then behind Aksyonov’s back there is neither a team of special services like Putin, nor a party that can be tamed in a short time, nor big business. And Putin is not a leader, not an economist, he is an experienced hardware player and schemer. He will not tolerate an independent person in power after himself. There is soft-bodied plush Medvedev. Which also managed to compromise himself.
  43. CONTROL
    CONTROL 22 September 2015 08: 48 New
    0
    All of the above: the article, the vast majority of comments on it - confirm that many people, and especially the current officers! seen since the mid 80s - early 90s. Ukraine already then, even before the collapse of the USSR! preparing for war with Russia (or with the Union?), at first - at the level of political confrontation, then - according to circumstances - and with full-scale military operations! Well, with the "full-blown" somehow it did not work out ... But they learned to spoil the air great! practice in this matter is great! best practices from the end of the 19th century ... and "American democracy" helped a lot, in the face ... face? and, yes, Roskomnadzor ...
    So, the conclusion, as they say, is unambiguous: they did not shoot and did not inspire in the 50s ... and it was completely in vain to let the “Galician chicks” into the “historical homeland” from Canada and Australia in the 50s ...
    A big "puncture" and politicians, and the KGB, and foreign intelligence! Or - "overpower"? ... with a "hail" ...
  44. soratnik
    soratnik 22 September 2015 09: 31 New
    0
    This is an act! Why not get a diploma of the Russian Construction University as an external student. Unless of course he needs him now.
  45. tigeret
    tigeret 22 September 2015 09: 35 New
    +4
    Close Aksyonov will not be closed, but he will become a senator from the Crimea. As for the President, it’s funny and sad. If someone judges a person by his ability to speak beautifully and for a long time. That is sad.
  46. Coboklo
    Coboklo 22 September 2015 10: 03 New
    +1
    Lord There are people in Russia, our land will never be impoverished. Well done!
  47. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 22 September 2015 11: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Mista_Dj
    The material presented in the article is bullshit!

    If, as you say, that is nonsense, then justify where and what, and it turns out that you are the next "daughter" of the officer, and even get into trouble, do not toss the bags.
    1. Mista_dj
      Mista_dj 24 September 2015 16: 17 New
      +3
      Are you by any chance not the "wife of the author" of this tale?
      What needs to be substantiated !?
      And most importantly - why do I need it !?
      Do you want to hawta tales and such “remake” shit legends about Ilya Muromets - go ahead!
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  48. Leeder
    Leeder 22 September 2015 11: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: vidmid
    But what about the Golden Eagle and the military in the Crimea? re-sworn to Russia?

    As far as I remember, they were fired from the "Golden Eagle", and did not run in violation of the order, so there was no violation of the oath. After this, they can swear to anyone.
    It’s not their fault that they were appointed “Guilty.” Although he raised his hand to the cop, a priori criminal ...
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 23 September 2015 21: 21 New
      +1
      The phrase of one Crimean woman (after the entry of Crimea into Russia): I kept wondering why my love for the motherland does not wake up? It turns out that the country was not that "
  49. Earnest
    Earnest 22 September 2015 12: 25 New
    +1
    Quote: Aleksandr1959
    The last issue of Riga VVAIU im.Ya. Alksnis was in 1992 year. And Latvians, before the official transfer of the school territory in 1993, no one allowed there. And about any oath of Latvia, those of the guys who were in the last issue of the RVVAIU have not heard

    Well, Latvia is still a different story, there we clearly knew that we were the "invaders", I’m saying like a neighbor from Biryuza (the Riga Higher Military Pedagogical University of the Republic named after Biryuzov was located over the fence from the Riga All-Union Higher Military School named after Alksnis drinks) Only now the "partisans" against the "invaders" were weak soldier
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 22 September 2015 13: 23 New
      0
      Hello to the neighbors! I remember that both our cadets at your school and yours at ours, waved their tunics, went to dances. And we also went swimming in your territory.
      By the way, the question is, do you know anything about the fate of the teacher of your school, Nikulin Vladimir Ivanovich? He taught at the Faculty of Engineering. In 1982, as a captain, he was already a candidate of technical sciences. He was engaged in step-by-step electric motors with his boss.
      1. Earnest
        Earnest 22 September 2015 20: 34 New
        +1
        We just changed epaulettes on a shirt with guns to rotorcraft.
        And about V. Nikulin. - he? http://ok.ru/profile/526153300783?st._aid=NavMenu_Friend_Main
        1. Aleksandr1959
          Aleksandr1959 23 September 2015 16: 42 New
          0
          Yes, this is Vladimir Ivanovich. Thank you so much for the information.
          We still did not have shoulder straps on shirts.
  50. Military Builder
    Military Builder 22 September 2015 12: 41 New
    +1
    in 1993, Aksyonov was expelled from the cadets of the Simferopol Higher Military-Political Construction School "for indiscipline"

    It seems that I entered in 1989, and in 1993 I was expelled "for indiscipline," only from the Togliatti Higher Military-Construction Command School, 4 months before graduation.
    The collapse of the USSR crap all.