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Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea

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Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea, for which it plans to join the NATO regional air security program, reports RIA News statement of heads of the Ukrainian mission under the alliance Yegor Bozhka.


Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea


The agency recalls that in February 2014 Kiev authorities closed the airspace above the Crimean peninsula. From 27 in August, Kiev, in agreement with Eurocontrol and ICAO, introduced “special conditions for flight planning over the western part of the Black Sea and a limited flight planning mode over the eastern part, which, in his opinion, is in the Ukrainian area of ​​responsibility”.

“In order to resume full-fledged ability to control airspace and security, in the near future, a pilot project will be launched on Ukraine’s accession to the so-called NATO regional air security program. Several expert visits have already taken place, an object has been identified that will be connected to this system. ”- told the god.

At the same time, he stressed that “within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: the allies will assume all costs”.
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  1. Snake AAA
    Snake AAA 21 September 2015 18: 36 New
    +93
    Damn, these ...... And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!! Country id about tov !!!
    1. Darkmor
      Darkmor 21 September 2015 18: 38 New
      +52
      Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.
      1. Vend
        Vend 21 September 2015 18: 53 New
        +55
        Quote: Darkmor
        Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.

        So the "allies" will be in control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 21 September 2015 19: 28 New
          +16
          Quote: Wend
          So the "allies" will be in control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing


          In vain you laugh, by the way ... The issue with "that Ukraine" will not be resolved, and not only that ... will appear on its territory ... how is it? Well, in general TOTAL will be ...

          And then there will be no laughing matter ...
          1. Arh
            Arh 21 September 2015 19: 39 New
            0
            snarl !!!)))
            1. Baikonur
              Baikonur 21 September 2015 19: 43 New
              +8
              ... gathered the Black Sea to take control !!!

              And then there will be no laughing matter ...

              especially if tomorrow More torrents will roll and take control of the planets,
              the day after tomorrow - they will roll and the near cosmos is under control,
              the day after tomorrow - they will roll again - the solar system is under control,
              the day after tomorrow - ...- the whole universe!

              Then we’ll laugh too! laughing
              1. erseer
                erseer 21 September 2015 19: 46 New
                +12
                Nadot take control of the bar in the apartment Poroshenko.
                etozh how many loud statements from the head of 404 we will not hear?
                1. Tanais
                  Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 16 New
                  +9
                  Quote: erseer
                  Nadot take control of the bar in the apartment Poroshenko.
                  etozh how many loud statements from the head of 404 we will not hear?


                  To give you, as an example, the eternally drunk EBN, and how easily it was manipulated in this state, including by the Western special services, in order to achieve the necessary solutions?

                  All to you HI yes HA ...
                  1. erseer
                    erseer 21 September 2015 20: 18 New
                    +9
                    ebn thing is already a thing of the past - it has already been eaten by worms. but the bastard sucking to hard drinks is a real thing. therefore I am hee hee.
                    1. Tanais
                      Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 30 New
                      +1
                      Quote: erseer
                      ebn thing is already a thing of the past - it has already been eaten by worms. but the bastard sucking to hard drinks is a real thing. therefore I am hee hee.

                      Worms EBNom are unlikely to be manipulated, but the Americans, parasites, yes ...

                      And so, “hee hee”, you can hold it until the moment when it, the worms, are capitalized ...
                      1. erseer
                        erseer 21 September 2015 20: 33 New
                        -5
                        Dig yourself il Vsezh believe that they already ate?
                      2. Tanais
                        Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 39 New
                        +1
                        Quote: erseer
                        Dig yourself il Vsezh believe that they already ate?


                        I’ll need it, I’ll dig it out. With the corpses (though relatively fresh), due to the specifics of the profession, had to deal ...

                        Not one comrade, I had to dig out from the collapse ...
                      3. erseer
                        erseer 21 September 2015 20: 45 New
                        -5
                        I have a good acquaintance working with corpses of various freshness - the main pathologist of one of the Maskovsk region districts. she said "gobbled up" - means gobbled up.
                        Dig yourself or do we agree on the opinion of a specialist?
                      4. Tanais
                        Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 52 New
                        +2
                        Quote: erseer
                        I have a good acquaintance working with corpses of various freshness - the main pathologist of one of the Maskovsk region districts. she said "gobbled up" - means gobbled up.
                        Dig yourself or do we agree on the opinion of a specialist?


                        Your "pathologists", something to bury something, PARAShenko, are not in a hurry very much ...
                        And that raises questions. Bigger than worms ...
                      5. erseer
                        erseer 21 September 2015 21: 02 New
                        +1
                        Do you know Tatyana chtol?
                        Apparently not. So Neh roll a barrel on a good person. She Piglet will prepare the last journey in the best possible way, do not even hesitate - "the doctor said to the morgue. Then to the morgue. And do not care that the client is breathing ..."
                      6. Tanais
                        Tanais 21 September 2015 21: 08 New
                        +2
                        Quote: erseer
                        Do you know Tatyana chtol?
                        Apparently not. So Neh roll a barrel on a good person. She Piglet will prepare the last journey in the best possible way, do not even hesitate - "the doctor said to the morgue. Then to the morgue. And do not care that the client is breathing ..."


                        You didn’t read this stupidity in my comment, but invented it yourself ...

                        Think about the logic and course of your thoughts ...

                        However troubles, it did not happen to you.
                  2. Homo
                    Homo 21 September 2015 21: 17 New
                    -1
                    Quote: erseer
                    "... with corpses of different freshness, a good acquaintance works with mnu ..."
                    . Would you like to learn the Russian language!
                  3. erseer
                    erseer 21 September 2015 21: 21 New
                    +2
                    word mnu used specifically.
                    any questions?
                    "when the interlocutor appeals to the" shape of the nose of the opponent, then the interlocutor has no more arguments on the topic ... "
        2. ksv1973
          ksv1973 21 September 2015 23: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: erseer
          Ebn business is already a thing of the past - the worms have already devoured it.

          This rubbish worms, as being much more evolutionarily developed compared to EBN creatures, even disdained to bite. Brainless, unicellular bacteria turned it into a dirty brown soufflé. And they did it without joy and without appetite. They simply knew that it was NECESSARY to do this - and to do it in such a way that there would not be a single strand of DNA that could be used to revive this foppish monster.
      2. unsinkable
        unsinkable 21 September 2015 20: 50 New
        +3
        Do not confuse cutlets with flies. They tried to put ebn under the Americans, but did not succeed or did not succeed (no difference). And the piglet already lies under them according to OWN desire.
        1. ksv1973
          ksv1973 21 September 2015 23: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: unsinkable
          They tried to put ebn under the Americans, but did not succeed or did not succeed (no difference). And the piglet already lies under them at OWN desire.

          EBN no one put under the Americans. He himself lay down. He lay on his stomach and parted his buttocks. And his own daughter, Tatiana, who is living quite well now, helped him in this.
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      3. lukke
        lukke 21 September 2015 22: 45 New
        +1
        To give you, as an example, the always drunk EBN, and how easily they were manipulated in this state
        (I’m far from a fan of ebony, but!) he was not alone, there was a team, including like-minded aliens, grabbers. But I want to say something else - under ebony there were also worthy statesmen: Primakov EM deployed a plane over the Atlantic, with ebony our paratroopers occupied the airport, with ebny Lebed, despite any installations, withdrew artillery and cooled the ardor of the hot Moldavians, despite the fact that Grachev (then the Minister of Defense did not give him an order, but on the contrary said do not hang out) , under ebony gave the opportunity to reveal themselves to GDP. And neither Primakov nor Lebed were removed from their posts! Therefore, I think that between the parashenka petunia and ebony the difference is still significant, well, with the exception of love for the green serpent. Although even here our fun was annealing ...
      4. Amurets
        Amurets 22 September 2015 00: 41 New
        +2
        Tanais! You’re right, Yeltsin drank so much that in 1993 he drank Crimea. All that remained was for him to sign ready-made documents.
  2. Tanais
    Tanais 21 September 2015 19: 59 New
    +10
    Quote: Baikonur
    Then we’ll laugh too!


    Have we already taken Kiev, we are judging the junta by the tribunal, and the USA, hiding in a corner, asks that the Russian Federation not bring it to justice?

    If so, then let's laugh ... And what remains to be done? We won ...
    There are no more threats ...
  3. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 21 September 2015 20: 24 New
    0
    Baikonur
    ... especially if tomorrow More torrents will roll and take control of the planets,
    the day after tomorrow - they will roll and ...
    Then we’ll laugh too!

    Do not rush, dear ones, to deprive Porosenko of a festive (Sunday, from the beginning, etc.) glass of a vodka and throw caps at his bar ... After all, the Crimea WEST officially considers Ukrop! And this means that the responsibility zone for controlling the movement of aircraft ships and in the Crimea zone will most likely be left by the decision of the ICAO to the dill ... And every flight of our aviation to Crimea without the permission of the flight control center will be punished very severely by the International Aviation Organization - from large fines to the ban of our aviation flights over the territory and not only Europe! ... Nobody will shoot down anyone ... just not one of our aircraft will fly outside Russia! They will not provide us with any air corridor .... as they will close the airspace over Russia .... they will fly through Turkey .. Iran, etc ...
    And now let's answer - will the NATO people sitting under the dill banner in this control center in ... give us permission to fly to the Crimea or not !? And if they allow it, then we will pay money for flights to Crimea to Kiev!
    And who then will laugh! ????
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 20: 31 New
      +5
      ikao has long considered Crimea to be Rossiskim, if there hadn’t been so, no civilian plane would have flown to Crimea.
      And Crimea, according to ICAO, has been serving Russia for a long time:
      if already "gazeta.ru.ru" wrote on 03.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
      http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2014/07/03/6096553.shtml
      1. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 21 September 2015 21: 09 New
        +1
        erseer RU Today, 20:31 ↑
        ikao has long considered Crimea to be Rossiskim, if there hadn’t been so, no civilian plane would have flown to Crimea.

        All this is explained by the fact that now the Rostov control center is entrusted with controlling the control of aircraft traffic .... because the nearest Ukrainian center is located in Dnepropetrovsk ... and it is not effective over Crimea ... and the old one in Crimea ... if I’m not mistaken in Simferopol, with the transition of Crimea to Russia ceased to exist ...
        pilot8878
        Excuse me, what does ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) have to do with purely military NATO?

        All aircraft ... including and the military, fly ONLY along ICAO-defined air corridors .... And NATO, using such national centers of the member countries of this block, are developing their programs ... without going beyond ICAO decisions ...
    2. pilot8878
      pilot8878 21 September 2015 20: 47 New
      +4
      Excuse me, what does ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) have to do with purely military NATO? Here in the news everything is piled up in one heap.
    3. DPZ
      DPZ 22 September 2015 07: 50 New
      0
      yes they will do it !!!
      For a long time already everyone reconciled that Our Crimea. flutter by inertia. and fluttering already fading
  • Tanais
    Tanais 21 September 2015 19: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: Arh
    snarl !!!)))

    And you thought how? They receive money for this, and by the way are not small ...
    1. captain
      captain 21 September 2015 20: 17 New
      +5
      I think. that everything is not as funny as it seems to some. They may very well begin to shoot down our planes. especially civilians. In light of the fact that the West considers Crimea occupied, it’s not worth laughing. These can completely bring down a plane with people. The story of our passenger plane 10 years ago shot down over the Black Sea, the story of a Boeing shot down over the Donbass is a bad signal. So this is not funny. In vain Putin stopped the vacationers, Mariupol had to be taken.
      1. pilot8878
        pilot8878 21 September 2015 20: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: captain
        In vain Putin stopped the vacationers, Mariupol had to be taken.

        So after all, not everyone’s holidays have passed yet. It will be necessary - in Mariupol it will not end.
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  • islaser
    islaser 21 September 2015 20: 45 New
    +1
    In vain you laugh, by the way ... The issue with "that Ukraine" will not be resolved, and not only that ... will appear on its territory ... how is it? Well, in general TOTAL will be ...

    And then there will be no laughing matter ...


    I also agree. This s_v_olochke only provokes what it will control, because considers Crimea his. And what shall we do? They only need a reason for us to move. And then yell to the whole world about us.
  • avg
    avg 21 September 2015 22: 10 New
    0
    And now it’s no laughing matter, they already controlled with Tu-154 and Boeing. It’s not NATO that needs to be connected, but ICAO. I think very few pilots want dill to ensure its flight.
  • TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 September 2015 05: 56 New
    0
    Add Ukrainian mess to American permissiveness. the bouquet will turn out like "hurt yourself." wassat
  • meriem1
    meriem1 21 September 2015 19: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Wend
    Quote: Darkmor
    Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.

    So the "allies" will be in control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing


    Nah! Ukraine will drop the Boeing, under the control of the Allies.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 September 2015 20: 58 New
    +4
    Quote: Wend
    So the "allies" will be in control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen

    The navel will loom over the Russian Sea to control something. The controller has not yet grown. And about the statement of this, so "the dog barks, the caravan goes
  • figwam
    figwam 21 September 2015 19: 32 New
    +7
    At the same time, he stressed that “within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: the allies will assume all costs”.

    Favorite Ukrainian occupation.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 21 September 2015 19: 46 New
    +4
    Quote: Darkmor
    Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.

    Money will not be in any case, but problems with dual power can be created by everyone. In essence, an attempt to create a parallel structure and enlist the support of NATO countries in this matter will not lead to good.
    Poroshenko uses the proven method of Saakashvili - an attempt to push Russia into NATO and stand behind his back. Of course, you can completely close the skies of Russia for those who are especially zealous, but everyone can’t avoid problems, or you need to negotiate with Washington.
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 19: 50 New
      +2
      By the way, yes, piglets should have declared a no-fly zone over all of Russia for a long time. That would be an announcement !!!
      the piglet’s rating would soar to an unattainable height!
      "here is a pug, how strong she barks at an elephant!"
      1. Tanais
        Tanais 21 September 2015 20: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: erseer
        By the way, yes, piglets should have declared a no-fly zone over all of Russia for a long time. That would be an announcement !!!
        the piglet’s rating would soar to an unattainable height!
        "here is a pug, how strong she barks at an elephant!"


        And here, as they say, up to a turn ... Ukraine is extremely not interested in closing the airspace of the Russian Federation for it, and is afraid of such a step as a response to Ukrainian sanctions ...
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 21 September 2015 20: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: erseer
        "here is a pug, how strong she barks at an elephant!"

        "AH, Pug, KNOW she is strong ..."
  • KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 21 September 2015 20: 00 New
    +2
    Darkmor
    Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.

    Who will give this money to ukopovtsam !? It is rather a transfer of control of the AIR SPACE OVER CH. M. NATO! A delicious piece of Yankee grab! If foreigners rule the business in the government ... then the NATO military will sit on the airspace control point for a long time ... and the dill will be entrusted to wash floors and clean paths ...
    1. max702
      max702 21 September 2015 20: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: KazaK Bo
      .a dill will trust floors wash and clean paths ...

      And they don’t need more ..
  • vell.65
    vell.65 21 September 2015 20: 58 New
    +3
    They are still hanging out like in an ice hole, and they have already assigned allies to themselves. fool
  • BMP-2
    BMP-2 21 September 2015 21: 32 New
    +1
    under the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money


    Allies will spend her money! But Ukraine-just will have to ...
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 22 September 2015 08: 30 New
    0
    Quote: Darkmor
    Well so, "allies will incur all expenses", and so the money can be overpowered.

    This means that Ukrainian airspace will now be controlled by NATO.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 21 September 2015 18: 38 New
    +16
    Quote: Snake AAA
    Damn, these ...... And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!! Country id about tov !!!

    Already transferred to the Nikolaev area 12 VVZ (air kites) laughing
    1. bastard
      bastard 21 September 2015 18: 44 New
      +31
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Already transferred to the Nikolaev area 12 VVZ (air kites)

      And maybe so:
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 21 September 2015 18: 40 New
    +6
    Quote: Snake AAA
    And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!!

    Will they control kites? They already "controlled" in 2001 ...
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    3. 23 region
      23 region 21 September 2015 19: 22 New
      +8
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      They already "controlled" in 2001 ...

      Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea,

      Better not to start.
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  • Kent0001
    Kent0001 21 September 2015 18: 50 New
    +6
    Then the KOLYOVA smelled like, do they resist?
  • papas-57
    papas-57 21 September 2015 18: 52 New
    +4
    `` Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea. '' And what about the whole Geyropa? They would ask their godfather for this job and would cut their dibs on gas.
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  • brat
    brat 21 September 2015 18: 53 New
    +4
    NATO will control the Ukrainian territory
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 21 September 2015 18: 57 New
      +22
      These will control ...?

      or this ..?
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 21 September 2015 19: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        These will control ...?



        Jokes - as jokes, and NATO’s aviation and air defense systems, like the Balts, will be located on their territory ...

        For us, these are big problems ... not in the sense of a controlled part of the airspace, but most of all - with predictable possible further actions ... in which combat contact with NATO will be possible - well, then the hump over the bumps ...
  • Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 21 September 2015 19: 16 New
    +5
    Yeah, and for the implementation of this control they will use kites patriotically painted in a yellow-black color with a tail from an embroidered ribbon. Autumn, aggravation again in Kiev. Not a country, but some kind of clinic for the mentally ill. Moreover, the steeper and higher the position, the more delusional and brighter the imagination.
    I have the honor.
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  • siberalt
    siberalt 21 September 2015 19: 39 New
    +3
    Kuev does not control his land. And if it begins to control the sea, then how many more passenger planes flying over it can suffer? laughing
    It has long been clear to everyone that this control is not their idea, but the Americans.
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    1. Alexashka13
      Alexashka13 21 September 2015 21: 47 New
      +1
      Diplomatically, to the point
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 21 September 2015 20: 14 New
    +2
    It is necessary to warn air carriers .... Urgent! ... belay
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 21 September 2015 20: 31 New
      +1
      The point is that only Crimea gives air control over the entire Black Sea. Really khlaminians want to risk knocking us out of the Crimea?
  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 21 September 2015 20: 46 New
    0
    Kiev plans

    Well, right, their gliders still had to stay.
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  • wow
    wow 21 September 2015 21: 41 New
    0
    "... Ukraine will not spend a dime ...". Again, the calculation for a freebie!
  • Juborg
    Juborg 21 September 2015 21: 44 New
    0
    The trick here is that this is the reason for the constant presence of US ships in the Black Sea.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 22 September 2015 09: 18 New
    0
    bother to control ... the controllers are bad, but how would you like Russia did not close the sky over the whole ruin
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 21 September 2015 18: 37 New
    +34
    I translate from Bandera to Russian.
    In the Black Sea region, a NATO airspace surveillance radar will be delivered. I propose to put a microwave generator in azimuth and either burn it to the tambourines, or let white noise look.
    1. Snake AAA
      Snake AAA 21 September 2015 18: 40 New
      +5
      Amerikosy already sailed on their ships, it was clear !!! Now, NATO and the radar are justified !!!
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 21 September 2015 18: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Pacifist
      I translate from Bandera to Russian.
      In the Black Sea region, a NATO airspace surveillance radar will be delivered.

      It remains to answer the main question - WHOSE EXACTLY airspace? I think the space of a country that does not exist is of no interest to anyone. It will be announced to the whole world that to control ISIS (for which there is no mention of aviation - at least not yet. So far, the main "fighters" with ISIS have not given it). They told the world that radars in Poland were needed to control Hussein ... Apparently, Soviet schools taught geography better than American ones, and a normal person knows where Poland is and where Hussein is. Was then. And where is he now, thanks to the American "concern for world peace."
    3. brat
      brat 21 September 2015 18: 56 New
      +1
      yes yes let them look at the dawning
    4. opus
      opus 21 September 2015 19: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Pacifist
      In the Black Sea region will be delivered NATO radar

      1. Eight-Ten NATO destroyers and frigates ply off the coast of Georgia. Each with BIUS and radar and missiles, respectively
      2. The Black Sea Naval Operational Interaction Group (FMO OM) Blackseafor (Navy: Bulgaria, Georgia, Russia, Romania, Turkey and Ukraine)
      NATO, Turkey, Romania and Bulgaria - have no restrictions on the number and tonnage of their warships. But only in the combat structure of the Turkish Navy - the strongest of the above member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance - today there are 14 non-nuclear submarines of the 209 / 1400 project of various modifications (German-built, armed with torpedoes and anti-ship missiles "Harpoon" with underwater launch), three frigate URO type Knox (a relatively weak missile and artillery armament comparable in strength to a Russian guard), eight frigates of URO type Oliver Hazard Perry, eight FR URO of type MEKO-200 (8 launcher RCC Harpoon, 16 or 24 missile launcher Sparrow ", one 127 mm un Mk45, 3x4, 25-mm reversible control unit Oerlikon-Sea Zenit GM-25 control unit, 2x3 torpedo tubes of the 324 mm Mk32 caliber), six FR URO French-built A69 type (8 XUZU universal PCU, two 100-mm OU “Oerlikon”, four 20-mm TA), as well as 533 missile boats of various types, more than 22 landing ships, more than 40 mine sweeping ships, 20 patrol boats and even more 16 patrol boats as part of the Coast Guard. Add here more than 100 Marines, as well as the Turkish Air Force and Air Force.
      3. THE UNITED NATO Air Defense System, direction "South" (Operations Center Naples, Italy). Automation. "Nage" system, intended. to alert NATO command of air. setting and guidance of fighters and missiles to air targets. O.S. NATO Air Defense works closely with NORAD, French, Spanish, Portuguese. nat. air defense systems and ship. air defense means of the 6-th fleet of the USA in the Mediterranean Sea.
      O.S. (north and south) NATO air defense totaled approx. 1700 PU SAM AND ST. 600 air defense fighter planes, 84 radar posts.

      Quote: Pacifist
      I suggest to put a microwave generator in azimuth

      in "azimuth" is how?
      If they have a "white" noise on radars in Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, we can fry testicles.
      only where to get such power?
  • rhd
    rhd 21 September 2015 18: 38 New
    +19
    Quote:
    “At the same time, he emphasized that“ within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a dime on its own money: the allies will bear all the costs. ”


    Here IN THIS, I BELIEVE !!!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 September 2015 18: 41 New
      +13
      Quote: rhd
      “Within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: allies will bear all the costs.”

      For free they can even join a shit-eating program. yes
  • Hubun
    Hubun 21 September 2015 18: 39 New
    +5
    they can only provide their airfields for NATO aviation, they can control the small intestine, and their hands are short
    1. brat
      brat 21 September 2015 18: 59 New
      +4
      am this is necessary
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 21 September 2015 19: 31 New
      +3
      Not only airports will provide, but also Ukrainian women. Interestingly, the currency will be withdrawn immediately or in the hands of about five minutes will be allowed to hold? It’s just been transmitted on Life News about the intention to legalize prostitution to save the Ukrainian economy.
  • Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 21 September 2015 18: 39 New
    +5
    God forbid you get lost with nata in the heavenly expanses of the Russian Crimea! Pen.dosy will drift something, and you hardly! am
    1. 23 region
      23 region 21 September 2015 19: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: Major Yurik
      God forbid you get lost with nata in the heavenly expanses of the Russian Crimea!

      Be afraid of HEROD !!!
      "He disappeared, spent fuel, everything fell into pieces,
      But two of our crazy brothers were picked up by fishermen. "
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  • NKV
    NKV 21 September 2015 18: 41 New
    +1
    Something tells me that Mr. God will not work for you ..)) there is already someone to control!
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 21 September 2015 18: 42 New
    +8
    all expenses will be borne by the allies

    There will be a grand cut ...
  • Belarus
    Belarus 21 September 2015 18: 43 New
    +10
    Let them regain control of their own brains. And it turns out that a dupa is the most important part of their body. They think a dupa, they make a dupa, they end up in a dupa and they live in a dupa - romance!
  • sv68
    sv68 21 September 2015 18: 44 New
    +12
    "ukroina plans" - it’s time to bring down this glider to the damn grandmother!
    1. Rader
      Rader 21 September 2015 19: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: sv68
      "ukroina plans" - it’s time to bring down this glider to the damn grandmother!

      Why waste ammunition? He (the glider "Ukraine") will soon be a cuddle on the ground, so let's just stand peacefully on the sidelines and watch wink laughing
  • ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 21 September 2015 18: 46 New
    +9
    ... project on the accession of Ukraine to the so-called NATO program on regional air security.

    In their zone of "safe" responsibility, once already "flown" a Malaysian plane ... angry
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 22 September 2015 00: 54 New
      +1
      Do not forget our TU-154
  • Walk
    Walk 21 September 2015 18: 46 New
    +4
    These frozen dill morons can also shoot down a passenger plane over the sea, which they allegedly control. They are not used to it.
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 21 September 2015 18: 46 New
    +8
    Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea

    In my opinion, it’s easier for them to dig a new sea today than to control the old laughing
  • Batia
    Batia 21 September 2015 18: 49 New
    +2
    Let them plan. They only need to yap, and there the grass does not grow.
  • erseer
    erseer 21 September 2015 18: 49 New
    +8
    "in February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
    And what?
    As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
    those. Kiev “closed” but could not influence the flights.
    "barked" at the rupe and the action and a penny was not worth it.
    Heroam Sala
    1. demoniac1666
      demoniac1666 21 September 2015 19: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: erseer
      "in February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
      And what?
      As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
      those. Kiev “closed” but could not influence the flights.
      "barked" at the rupe and the action and a penny was not worth it.
      Heroam Sala

      They need another change of effort (in words, of course, because there is nothing more to do except words)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
    2. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 21 September 2015 20: 44 New
      +1
      erseer
      "in February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
      And what?
      As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
      those. Kiev “closed” but could not influence the flights.

      That's right! If you declare yourself a pope, they will put you to Napoleon and the prosecutor ... and no one will pray for you! But if the whole world declares you to be this dad .... then you will receive all honorable honors.
      So with the closure of airspace over Crimea, only Kiev decided ... They announced - and everyone just laughs! But when the International Aviation Organization ... which is given such a right and confirmed by the signatures of almost 200 countries of the world, grants such a right to Dill ... then ... they can create so many problems for us that it won’t seem enough .... in any case most likely, our aviation will not fly to Crimea. Here, to create such a control center ... and its technical equipment, the West will give money ... put its specialists under the guise of instructors and then Kiev will request such a right of control! And, with a high probability, it can be obtained because to this day the West considers Crimea dill !!
      1. erseer
        erseer 21 September 2015 20: 59 New
        +1
        when it will provide then we’ll talk. and at the moment, this influential office is guided by the real state of affairs.
        I remember that when immediately after the Crimea, a topic appeared about ICAO that closes ... between them there was a topic about the "optimization" of flight routes in Russia ...
        ICAO wisely decided not to fiddle with the topic of airspace over the Crimea and everything remained as it is, except that the VP over the Crimea quietly and calmly began to control the Russian Federation. and Kiev quietly worn himself out.
  • YGV-97219
    YGV-97219 21 September 2015 18: 52 New
    +4
    It’s interesting and what will it give them? A feeling of some significance in their own eyes is no more, in my opinion it is violet in Russia!
  • Kupez4
    Kupez4 21 September 2015 18: 54 New
    +4
    Hu hu no ho ho fools. From the beginning, take control of the goblin country.
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 18: 56 New
      +3
      the country is not interesting. here piz ... nut to the whole world sho "we are going to control airspace at the World Cup" ett cool. and "promising does not mean getting married" ...
  • Stinger
    Stinger 21 September 2015 18: 56 New
    +2
    Who jumps, he too literally understands the words from the song about Odessa "... my Black Sea ..." The brains shook.
  • Kovlad
    Kovlad 21 September 2015 18: 56 New
    +4
    Almost in the subject, but still. Submarine "Novorossiysk" arrived at the base of submarines in Novorossiysk! True, from the Legonet 3,14, it was hoped that from the northern seas the submarine passed without refueling. Well, then they are zhurnalyugi, so that with an honest look s3,14zdet.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 21 September 2015 19: 15 New
      +2
      Journalists they are. Just recently, Great Britain was indignant that Spain allowed a Russian submarine to enter its port for the purpose of refueling. After all, it was clear to the fool that it was a question of Novorossiysk hi
  • KRIG55
    KRIG55 21 September 2015 18: 57 New
    +2
    Kiev has not shot down civilian aircraft for a long time? Again for the old.
  • givigor71
    givigor71 21 September 2015 18: 58 New
    +6
    The key phrase in the article: "Ukraine will not spend a dime of its own money: allies will bear all the costs".
  • SVD
    SVD 21 September 2015 18: 59 New
    +1
    So it’s trifling - they would declare control of space, galaxies ... sunrise and sunset!
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 September 2015 19: 04 New
    +4
    Oh well...! Work in progress ...
  • Izotovp
    Izotovp 21 September 2015 19: 07 New
    +4
    So they are actually trying to delegate the control of the Black Sea to NATO.
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 19: 20 New
      +1
      Well here the boys are already adults and therefore understood what the hell 404 all this chatter was needed.
      Well, the mattress covers will be dragged out under azo Ali Mariupol OWN radar, well, it will start to work.
      and the 404th is what the hell?
      well there will be mattresses with 404 shares information, maybe ...
      What, ukrobuki under the lion will respond to air targets over the World Cup?
      Rackets for children are not toys: either they themselves will suffer or the next civilian board will “land”, and already on their territory and without any excuse, “we are not.”
      "Morons b..la!" (c) Sergey Lavrov
    2. Tanais
      Tanais 21 September 2015 19: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: Izotovp
      So they are actually trying to delegate the control of the Black Sea to NATO.


      W-O-O-O-T! Finally, a comment that really identified a threat to the Russian Federation ...
      What is higher on comment showed us Mikhan, well. But this is only a "stopping" of the investigation and not the cause ...

      And the "price of the issue", while ignoring the risks, inaction and indulging the junta, will increase immeasurably ...
  • 79807420129
    79807420129 21 September 2015 19: 13 New
    +10
    They would have better controlled their own brains. And then they will say how in a puddle lane.
  • aleksander07
    aleksander07 21 September 2015 19: 15 New
    +2
    this is how to control the airspace over the Crimea and the Black Sea!? it’s like to have babos from this!? something like the processor overheated drinks
  • vobels
    vobels 21 September 2015 19: 17 New
    +1
    ".. limited flight planning regime over the eastern part, which, in his opinion, is in the Ukrainian zone of responsibility." His opinion diverges from the opinion of his government, which has denied responsibility for the downed Boeing. And all this looks like an empty chatter.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 21 September 2015 19: 18 New
    0
    Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea


    Well ... They will bring the Piglet monitor into the office. He will stare at him between the glasses, that’s all control ... bully
  • Berthan
    Berthan 21 September 2015 19: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: sv68
    "ukroina plans" - it’s time to bring down this glider to the damn grandmother!



    Oh well ... I’ll kill someone else ... Gently land, and - disposed of in accordance with all the rules!)
  • Maksus
    Maksus 21 September 2015 19: 22 New
    +3
    Restore control, and he was? I remember they shot down an airplane over the Black Sea and for a very long time the controllers did not admit it.
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 21 September 2015 19: 23 New
    +1
    You can, of course, take pity and allow them to Walpurgis Night - from April 30 to May 1, from 2400 to 0500 Moscow time, witches fly on brooms, but no more! laughing
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 September 2015 19: 26 New
    +2
    They are going to control what they no longer own. This is a wonderful fix. NATO "will not fit" for dill, these are prudent, and will not fly over Crimea. But dill - just nothing.
    1. Valter1364
      Valter1364 21 September 2015 19: 30 New
      +4
      Where do they fly over our Crimea !? They couldn’t even stop a truck with tomatoes at the border with all their “troops”! tongue lol
  • Rader
    Rader 21 September 2015 19: 31 New
    +4
    Ukraine plans You know, I am the same, here, I plan to buy maybach (with gold interior decoration). Gentlemen forum users, support us (me and Ukraine) with a kind word in our difficult undertakings wassat laughing !!!
    Ps And if you think about it, I’ll have more chances ... smile
  • NDR-791
    NDR-791 21 September 2015 19: 48 New
    0
    defined object to be connected to this system ”
    What kind of object is this? Galushkomet? Also for "not a penny of money"? In general, according to the first media reports, the striped brothers fit in "to regain control of the airspace of Crimea"! That’s the way no more no less. Probably a new team for the new destroyer for the Black Sea scored. Not familiar with the phenomenon of "Crimean Nividimki".
  • roskot
    roskot 21 September 2015 19: 49 New
    +2
    Here it is the Black Sea. Now I see everything. I control.
  • Cat man null
    Cat man null 21 September 2015 19: 53 New
    0
    Control of Kiev over the Black Sea ended with the downed SBI1812

    No more no

    And the protoukers around this are still dancing .. https://www.facebook.com/alshmatko/posts/269504209923836

    Having stayed ..
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 19: 55 New
      0
      Moreover, the “God's chosen” nation was limited to cash payments of 404, and the tongue stuck lumpy in the dupole ...
  • Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 21 September 2015 20: 00 New
    0
    Now they’ll start slaving a slingshot to launch the right-wing slider.
    Then they won’t succeed, fools then have a short one-way flight and fervently accuse Russia of another fiasco wassat
  • tyras85
    tyras85 21 September 2015 20: 12 New
    +2
    What, a lot of planes ?! So we will quickly reduce the park! Dill, pedaling in the airspace of Russia is fraught. SHOW! The Black Sea is a zone of Russian interests. Forgot? Recall! When our flotilla enters Odessa ...
  • Proud.
    Proud. 21 September 2015 20: 24 New
    +1
    Okay. Let's say NATO (but not Kiev) will be controlled (spied). But how are they going to "govern" !?
  • Mic1969
    Mic1969 21 September 2015 20: 35 New
    0
    Key phrase “Within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a dime on its own money: the allies will bear all the costs”.
  • awg75
    awg75 21 September 2015 20: 38 New
    0
    you have to say bluntly - "I WILL MAKE YOUR HANDS BY THE MOST ABOUT." cardboard controllers .....
  • Yugra
    Yugra 21 September 2015 20: 38 New
    0
    When will this Khokhlyat’s pack stop drinking denatured alcohol and each time catching a squirrel? ...
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 21 September 2015 20: 45 New
    0
    Simferopol Air Traffic Control Center was subordinate to Aeroorukh (Krimaerorukh) Previously Siyu -UES of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the RF
  • Das Boot
    Das Boot 21 September 2015 20: 56 New
    +1
    I don’t understand a damn ... And what is NATO's so-called regional air security program? Is this just another hoax invention? Maybe someone will tell by what hashtag what thread about this program can be found? And then here some almost patrols of eurofighter with full ammunition represent ...
  • mamont5
    mamont5 21 September 2015 21: 04 New
    +1
    “At the same time, he emphasized that“ within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money: the allies will bear all the costs. ”

    For the poor Ruins - THIS is the most important thing. Any dirty trick for other people's money - this is the motto of dill.
  • sounddoc
    sounddoc 21 September 2015 21: 06 New
    +2
    Well, wash, quilted jackets !!! Svidoboronprom has released the latest airspace control tool (without the letter "t") - "Banderushi-1", named after the kolupup itself))))
  • mamont5
    mamont5 21 September 2015 21: 10 New
    +1
    Quote: KazaK Bo
    After all, the WEST Crimea officially considers dill! And this means that the responsibility zone for controlling the movement of aircraft ships and in the zone of Crimea will most likely be left to Ukrainian people by the decision of the ICAO ... And every flight of our aviation to Crimea without the permission of the flight control center will be punished very severely by the International Aviation Organization - from large monetary fines before the ban of flights of our aircraft over the territory and not only of Europe !.

    They will grow foul and unevenly ... Europe is not in for great conflicts (and Russia can also present gifts of Western aviation with flights over our territory), and the States too.
  • Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 21 September 2015 21: 21 New
    +1
    They most likely want to defrost Transnistria so that the air supply of the PMR is under the watchful eye of the VSA and in every way interferes.
    It is unlikely that the Americans will do this. Drilled.
    So let the saliva spray. They won’t succeed.))))))
  • pirate
    pirate 21 September 2015 21: 25 New
    0
    Do not tell my nerves. What control, than? People, are you clowns? Who is this tirade for?
  • demandy1
    demandy1 21 September 2015 21: 30 New
    +1
    you can want a lot, I want Angelina Jolie, but what's the point!
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 21: 34 New
      +1
      test wish!
      but I beg your pardon, I even wanted her before you!
      You are at least second, well after mnu ...
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 21 September 2015 22: 07 New
    0
    I love these plans a lot!
    But, it is one thing to put forward plans, and quite another to put forward military aircraft in the Black Sea.
    Earlier, the United States has already put forward its ships there. But, embarrassment came out!
    How Ukrainian sailors embarrassed, this is a special story !!!
    The return of the Mirage to Sevastopol.
    http://darksnoel.livejournal.com/128755.html
    1. erseer
      erseer 21 September 2015 22: 29 New
      0
      somehow my sheolny druch sang a song:

      Once I’m rooting mine, Seryoga
      As usual they ran a little
      And to wash away the surging grief
      We decided to skimp a couple at sea ..
      We sailed, the wind howled in our underpants
      The boat chased us for three hours ...
      But we left them bottom with songs
      Well, can anyone compare with us !?
      ... there is a continuation