Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea

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Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea, for which it plans to join the NATO regional air security program, reports RIA News statement of heads of the Ukrainian mission under the alliance Yegor Bozhka.

Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea


The agency recalls that in February 2014 Kiev authorities closed the airspace above the Crimean peninsula. From 27 in August, Kiev, in agreement with Eurocontrol and ICAO, introduced “special conditions for flight planning over the western part of the Black Sea and a limited flight planning mode over the eastern part, which, in his opinion, is in the Ukrainian area of ​​responsibility”.

“In order to resume full-fledged ability to control airspace and security, in the near future, a pilot project will be launched on Ukraine’s accession to the so-called NATO regional air security program. Several expert visits have already taken place, an object has been identified that will be connected to this system. ”- told the god.

At the same time, he stressed that “within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: the allies will assume all costs”.
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  1. +93
    21 September 2015 18: 36
    Damn, these ...... And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!! Country id about tov !!!
    1. +52
      21 September 2015 18: 38
      Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.
      1. +55
        21 September 2015 18: 53
        Quote: Darkmor
        Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.

        This means that the "allies" will also control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing
        1. +16
          21 September 2015 19: 28
          Quote: Wend
          This means that the "allies" will also control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing


          You shouldn't laugh, by the way ... The issue with "that Ukraine" will not be resolved, and not only this will appear on its territory ... how is it? Well, in general, TOTAL will be enough ...

          And then there will be no laughing matter ...
          1. Arh
            0
            21 September 2015 19: 39
            snarl !!!)))
            1. +8
              21 September 2015 19: 43
              ... gathered the Black Sea to take control !!!

              And then there will be no laughing matter ...

              especially if tomorrow More torrents will roll and take control of the planets,
              the day after tomorrow - they will roll and the near cosmos is under control,
              the day after tomorrow - they will roll again - the solar system is under control,
              the day after tomorrow - ...- the whole universe!

              Then we’ll laugh too! laughing
              1. +12
                21 September 2015 19: 46
                Nadot take control of the bar in the apartment Poroshenko.
                etozh how many loud statements from the head of 404 we will not hear?
                1. +9
                  21 September 2015 20: 16
                  Quote: erseer
                  Nadot take control of the bar in the apartment Poroshenko.
                  etozh how many loud statements from the head of 404 we will not hear?


                  To give you, as an example, the eternally drunk EBN, and how easily it was manipulated in this state, including by the Western special services, in order to achieve the necessary solutions?

                  All to you HI yes HA ...
                  1. +9
                    21 September 2015 20: 18
                    It’s already a thing of the past — the worms have already devoured it. but lubof piging for strong drinks is a real thing. that's why I and "hee hee".
                    1. +1
                      21 September 2015 20: 30
                      Quote: erseer
                      It’s already a thing of the past — the worms have already devoured it. but lubof piging for strong drinks is a real thing. that's why I and "hee hee".

                      Worms EBNom are unlikely to be manipulated, but the Americans, parasites, yes ...

                      And now "hee-hee", you can hold back, until the moment when he, the worms, are credited ...
                      1. -5
                        21 September 2015 20: 33
                        Dig yourself il Vsezh believe that they already ate?
                      2. +1
                        21 September 2015 20: 39
                        Quote: erseer
                        Dig yourself il Vsezh believe that they already ate?


                        I’ll need it, I’ll dig it out. With the corpses (though relatively fresh), due to the specifics of the profession, had to deal ...

                        Not one comrade, I had to dig out from the collapse ...
                      3. -5
                        21 September 2015 20: 45
                        with corpses of different freshness, a good friend is working at the mnu - the chief pathologist of one of the areas of Maskovo region. she said "gobbled up" means gobbled up.
                        Dig yourself or do we agree on the opinion of a specialist?
                      4. +2
                        21 September 2015 20: 52
                        Quote: erseer
                        with corpses of different freshness, a good friend is working at the mnu - the chief pathologist of one of the areas of Maskovo region. she said "gobbled up" means gobbled up.
                        Dig yourself or do we agree on the opinion of a specialist?


                        Your "pathologists", they are in no hurry to bury something, ParAShenko ...
                        And that raises questions. Bigger than worms ...
                      5. +1
                        21 September 2015 21: 02
                        Do you know Tatyana chtol?
                        Apparently not. So neh roll a barrel for a good man. She will prepare the pig for the last journey in the best possible way, do not even hesitate - "the doctor said to the morgue. It means to the morgue. And it doesn't matter that the client is breathing ..."
                      6. +2
                        21 September 2015 21: 08
                        Quote: erseer
                        Do you know Tatyana chtol?
                        Apparently not. So neh roll a barrel for a good man. She will prepare the pig for the last journey in the best possible way, do not even hesitate - "the doctor said to the morgue. It means to the morgue. And it doesn't matter that the client is breathing ..."


                        You didn’t read this stupidity in my comment, but invented it yourself ...

                        Think about the logic and course of your thoughts ...

                        However troubles, it did not happen to you.
                      7. -1
                        21 September 2015 21: 17
                        Quote: erseer
                        "... with corpses of different freshness, a good friend is working for mnu ..."
                        . Would you like to learn the Russian language!
                      8. +2
                        21 September 2015 21: 21
                        word mnu used specifically.
                        any questions?
                        "when the interlocutor appeals to" the shape of the aponent's nose, then the interlocutor has no more arguments on the topic ... "
                    2. +3
                      21 September 2015 23: 17
                      Quote: erseer
                      Ebn business is already a thing of the past - the worms have already devoured it.

                      This rubbish worms, as being much more evolutionarily developed compared to EBN creatures, even disdained to bite. Brainless, unicellular bacteria turned it into a dirty brown soufflé. And they did it without joy and without appetite. They simply knew that it was NECESSARY to do this - and to do it in such a way that there would not be a single strand of DNA that could be used to revive this foppish monster.
                  2. +3
                    21 September 2015 20: 50
                    Do not confuse cutlets with flies. They tried to put ebn under the Americans, but did not succeed or did not succeed (no difference). And the piglet already lies under them according to OWN desire.
                    1. +2
                      21 September 2015 23: 24
                      Quote: unsinkable
                      They tried to put ebn under the Americans, but did not succeed or did not succeed (no difference). And the piglet already lies under them at OWN desire.

                      EBN no one put under the Americans. He himself lay down. He lay on his stomach and parted his buttocks. And his own daughter, Tatiana, who is living quite well now, helped him in this.
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                  3. +1
                    21 September 2015 22: 45
                    To give you, as an example, the always drunk EBN, and how easily they were manipulated in this state
                    (I’m far from a fan of ebony, but!) he was not alone, there was a team, including like-minded aliens, grabbers. But I want to say something else - under ebony there were also worthy statesmen: Primakov EM deployed a plane over the Atlantic, with ebony our paratroopers occupied the airport, with ebny Lebed, despite any installations, withdrew artillery and cooled the ardor of the hot Moldavians, despite the fact that Grachev (then the Minister of Defense did not give him an order, but on the contrary said do not hang out) , under ebony gave the opportunity to reveal themselves to GDP. And neither Primakov nor Lebed were removed from their posts! Therefore, I think that between the parashenka petunia and ebony the difference is still significant, well, with the exception of love for the green serpent. Although even here our fun was annealing ...
                  4. +2
                    22 September 2015 00: 41
                    Tanais! You’re right, Yeltsin drank so much that in 1993 he drank Crimea. All that remained was for him to sign ready-made documents.
              2. +10
                21 September 2015 19: 59
                Quote: Baikonur
                Then we’ll laugh too!


                Have we already taken Kiev, we are judging the junta by the tribunal, and the USA, hiding in a corner, asks that the Russian Federation not bring it to justice?

                If so, then let's laugh ... And what remains to be done? We won ...
                There are no more threats ...
              3. 0
                21 September 2015 20: 24
                Baikonur
                ... especially if tomorrow More torrents will roll and take control of the planets,
                the day after tomorrow - they will roll and ...
                Then we’ll laugh too!

                Do not rush, dear ones, to deprive Porosenko of a festive (Sunday, from the beginning, etc.) glass of a vodka and throw caps at his bar ... After all, the Crimea WEST officially considers Ukrop! And this means that the responsibility zone for controlling the movement of aircraft ships and in the Crimea zone will most likely be left by the decision of the ICAO to the dill ... And every flight of our aviation to Crimea without the permission of the flight control center will be punished very severely by the International Aviation Organization - from large fines to the ban of our aviation flights over the territory and not only Europe! ... Nobody will shoot down anyone ... just not one of our aircraft will fly outside Russia! They will not provide us with any air corridor .... as they will close the airspace over Russia .... they will fly through Turkey .. Iran, etc ...
                And now let's answer - will the NATO people sitting under the dill banner in this control center in ... give us permission to fly to the Crimea or not !? And if they allow it, then we will pay money for flights to Crimea to Kiev!
                And who then will laugh! ????
                1. +5
                  21 September 2015 20: 31
                  ikao has long considered Crimea to be Rossiskim, if there hadn’t been so, no civilian plane would have flown to Crimea.
                  And Crimea, according to ICAO, has been serving Russia for a long time:
                  if "gazeta.ru" on 03.07.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX wrote
                  http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2014/07/03/6096553.shtml
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2015 21: 09
                    erseer RU Today, 20:31 ↑
                    ikao has long considered Crimea to be Rossiskim, if there hadn’t been so, no civilian plane would have flown to Crimea.

                    All this is explained by the fact that now the Rostov control center is entrusted with controlling the control of aircraft traffic .... because the nearest Ukrainian center is located in Dnepropetrovsk ... and it is not effective over Crimea ... and the old one in Crimea ... if I’m not mistaken in Simferopol, with the transition of Crimea to Russia ceased to exist ...
                    pilot8878
                    Excuse me, what does ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) have to do with purely military NATO?

                    All aircraft ... including and the military, fly ONLY along ICAO-defined air corridors .... And NATO, using such national centers of the member countries of this block, are developing their programs ... without going beyond ICAO decisions ...
                2. +4
                  21 September 2015 20: 47
                  Excuse me, what does ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) have to do with purely military NATO? Here in the news everything is piled up in one heap.
                3. DPZ
                  0
                  22 September 2015 07: 50
                  yes they will do it !!!
                  For a long time already everyone reconciled that Our Crimea. flutter by inertia. and fluttering already fading
            2. +1
              21 September 2015 19: 48
              Quote: Arh
              snarl !!!)))

              And you thought how? They receive money for this, and by the way are not small ...
              1. +5
                21 September 2015 20: 17
                I think. that everything is not as funny as it seems to some. They may very well begin to shoot down our planes. especially civilians. In light of the fact that the West considers Crimea occupied, it’s not worth laughing. These can completely bring down a plane with people. The story of our passenger plane 10 years ago shot down over the Black Sea, the story of a Boeing shot down over the Donbass is a bad signal. So this is not funny. In vain Putin stopped the vacationers, Mariupol had to be taken.
                1. +3
                  21 September 2015 20: 49
                  Quote: captain
                  In vain Putin stopped the vacationers, Mariupol had to be taken.

                  So after all, not everyone’s holidays have passed yet. It will be necessary - in Mariupol it will not end.
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          3. +1
            21 September 2015 20: 45
            You shouldn't laugh, by the way ... The issue with "that Ukraine" will not be resolved, and not only this will appear on its territory ... how is it? Well, in general, TOTAL will be enough ...

            And then there will be no laughing matter ...


            I also agree. This s_v_olochke only provokes what it will control, because considers Crimea his. And what shall we do? They only need a reason for us to move. And then yell to the whole world about us.
          4. avg
            0
            21 September 2015 22: 10
            And now it’s no laughing matter, they already controlled with Tu-154 and Boeing. It’s not NATO that needs to be connected, but ICAO. I think very few pilots want dill to ensure its flight.
          5. 0
            22 September 2015 05: 56
            Add Ukrainian chaos to American permissiveness. the bouquet will turn out to be like "hurt". wassat
        2. +1
          21 September 2015 19: 56
          Quote: Wend
          Quote: Darkmor
          Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.

          This means that the "allies" will also control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen laughing


          Nah! Ukraine will drop the Boeing, under the control of the Allies.
        3. +4
          21 September 2015 20: 58
          Quote: Wend
          This means that the "allies" will also control. And Ukraine will be a cardboard screen

          The navel will untie over the Russian Sea something to control. The inspector has not grown up yet. And regarding the statement of this, so "the dog barks, the caravan is moving"
      2. +7
        21 September 2015 19: 32
        At the same time, he stressed that “within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: the allies will assume all costs”.

        Favorite Ukrainian occupation.
      3. +4
        21 September 2015 19: 46
        Quote: Darkmor
        Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.

        Money will not be in any case, but problems with dual power can be created by everyone. In essence, an attempt to create a parallel structure and enlist the support of NATO countries in this matter will not lead to good.
        Poroshenko uses the proven method of Saakashvili - an attempt to push Russia into NATO and stand behind his back. Of course, you can completely close the skies of Russia for those who are especially zealous, but everyone can’t avoid problems, or you need to negotiate with Washington.
        1. +2
          21 September 2015 19: 50
          By the way, yes, piglets should have declared a no-fly zone over all of Russia for a long time. That would be an announcement !!!
          the piglet’s rating would soar to an unattainable height!
          "Here is a pug, how strong it is when it barks at an elephant!"
          1. +3
            21 September 2015 20: 12
            Quote: erseer
            By the way, yes, piglets should have declared a no-fly zone over all of Russia for a long time. That would be an announcement !!!
            the piglet’s rating would soar to an unattainable height!
            "Here is a pug, how strong it is when it barks at an elephant!"


            And here, as they say, up to a turn ... Ukraine is extremely not interested in closing the airspace of the Russian Federation for it, and is afraid of such a step as a response to Ukrainian sanctions ...
          2. +1
            21 September 2015 20: 29
            Quote: erseer
            "Here is a pug, how strong it is when it barks at an elephant!"

            "AH, Pug, KNOW she is strong ..."
      4. +2
        21 September 2015 20: 00
        Darkmor
        Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.

        Who will give this money to ukopovtsam !? It is rather a transfer of control of the AIR SPACE OVER CH. M. NATO! A delicious piece of Yankee grab! If foreigners rule the business in the government ... then the NATO military will sit on the airspace control point for a long time ... and the dill will be entrusted to wash floors and clean paths ...
        1. +2
          21 September 2015 20: 25
          Quote: KazaK Bo
          .a dill will trust floors wash and clean paths ...

          And they don’t need more ..
      5. +3
        21 September 2015 20: 58
        They are still hanging out like in an ice hole, and they have already assigned allies to themselves. fool
      6. +1
        21 September 2015 21: 32
        under the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money


        Allies will spend her money! But Ukraine-just will have to ...
      7. 0
        22 September 2015 08: 30
        Quote: Darkmor
        Well Duc, "all expenses will be borne by the allies," which means that the money may fall.

        This means that Ukrainian airspace will now be controlled by NATO.
    2. +16
      21 September 2015 18: 38
      Quote: Snake AAA
      Damn, these ...... And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!! Country id about tov !!!

      Already transferred to the Nikolaev area 12 VVZ (air kites) laughing
      1. +31
        21 September 2015 18: 44
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Already transferred to the Nikolaev area 12 VVZ (air kites)

        And maybe so:
    3. +6
      21 September 2015 18: 40
      Quote: Serpent AAA
      And, they do not control their country, but they gathered to take control of the Black Sea !!!

      Will they control kites? They already "controlled" in 2001 ...
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      3. +8
        21 September 2015 19: 22
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        They already "controlled" in 2001 ...

        Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea,

        Better not to start.
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    4. +6
      21 September 2015 18: 50
      Then the KOLYOVA smelled like, do they resist?
    5. +4
      21 September 2015 18: 52
      `` Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea. '' And what is not over the whole of Geyrope? They would ask their `` godfather '' for this job and cut their money for gas.
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    7. +4
      21 September 2015 18: 53
      NATO will control the Ukrainian territory
      1. +22
        21 September 2015 18: 57
        These will control ...?

        or this ..?
        1. +5
          21 September 2015 19: 31
          Quote: MIKHAN
          These will control ...?



          Jokes - as jokes, and NATO’s aviation and air defense systems, like the Balts, will be located on their territory ...

          For us, these are big problems ... not in the sense of a controlled part of the airspace, but most of all - with predictable possible further actions ... in which combat contact with NATO will be possible - well, then the hump over the bumps ...
    8. +5
      21 September 2015 19: 16
      Yeah, but for this control they will use kites, patriotically painted in zhovto-blakite color with a tail made of "embroidered" ribbon. Autumn, in Kiev again aggravation. Not a country, but some kind of clinic for the mentally ill. And the steeper and higher the position, the more delusional and brighter the fantasy.
      I have the honor.
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    10. +3
      21 September 2015 19: 39
      Kuev does not control his land. And if it begins to control the sea, then how many more passenger planes flying over it can suffer? laughing
      It has long been clear to everyone that this control is not their idea, but the Americans.
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      1. +1
        21 September 2015 21: 47
        Diplomatically, to the point
    12. +2
      21 September 2015 20: 14
      It is necessary to warn air carriers .... Urgent! ... belay
      1. +1
        21 September 2015 20: 31
        The point is that only Crimea gives air control over the entire Black Sea. Really khlaminians want to risk knocking us out of the Crimea?
    13. 0
      21 September 2015 20: 46
      Kiev plans

      Well, right, their gliders still had to stay.
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    15. wow
      0
      21 September 2015 21: 41
      "... Ukraine will not spend a dime ...". Again, counting on a freebie!
    16. 0
      21 September 2015 21: 44
      The trick here is that this is the reason for the constant presence of US ships in the Black Sea.
    17. 0
      22 September 2015 09: 18
      bother to control ... the controllers are bad, but how would you like Russia did not close the sky over the whole ruin
  2. +34
    21 September 2015 18: 37
    I translate from Bandera to Russian.
    In the Black Sea region, a NATO airspace surveillance radar will be delivered. I propose to put a microwave generator in azimuth and either burn it to the tambourines, or let white noise look.
    1. +5
      21 September 2015 18: 40
      Amerikosy already sailed on their ships, it was clear !!! Now, NATO and the radar are justified !!!
    2. +5
      21 September 2015 18: 47
      Quote: Pacifist
      I translate from Bandera to Russian.
      In the Black Sea region, a NATO airspace surveillance radar will be delivered.

      It remains to answer the main question - WHOSE EXACTLY airspace? I think that the space of a country that does not exist is of no interest to anyone. It will be announced to the whole world that it is to control ISIS (which has no trace of aviation - at least for now. So far, the main "fighters" against ISIS have not given it). They told the world that radars in Poland were needed to control Hussein ... In Soviet schools, apparently, they taught geography better than in American ones, and it is clear to a normal person where Poland is and where Hussein is. Was then. And where is he now, thanks to American "concern for world peace."
    3. +1
      21 September 2015 18: 56
      yes yes let them look at the dawning
    4. +1
      21 September 2015 19: 26
      Quote: Pacifist
      In the Black Sea region will be delivered NATO radar

      1. Eight-Ten NATO destroyers and frigates ply off the coast of Georgia. Each with BIUS and radar and missiles, respectively
      2. The Black Sea Naval Operational Interaction Group (FMO OM) Blackseafor (Navy: Bulgaria, Georgia, Russia, Romania, Turkey and Ukraine)
      NATO, Turkey, Romania and Bulgaria - have no restrictions on the number and tonnage of their warships. But only in the combat structure of the Turkish Navy - the strongest of the above member countries of the North Atlantic Alliance - today there are 14 non-nuclear submarines of the 209 / 1400 project of various modifications (German-built, armed with torpedoes and anti-ship missiles "Harpoon" with underwater launch), three frigate URO type Knox (a relatively weak missile and artillery armament comparable in strength to a Russian guard), eight frigates of URO type Oliver Hazard Perry, eight FR URO of type MEKO-200 (8 launcher RCC Harpoon, 16 or 24 missile launcher Sparrow ", one 127 mm un Mk45, 3x4, 25-mm reversible control unit Oerlikon-Sea Zenit GM-25 control unit, 2x3 torpedo tubes of the 324 mm Mk32 caliber), six FR URO French-built A69 type (8 XUZU universal PCU, two 100-mm OU “Oerlikon”, four 20-mm TA), as well as 533 missile boats of various types, more than 22 landing ships, more than 40 mine sweeping ships, 20 patrol boats and even more 16 patrol boats as part of the Coast Guard. Add here more than 100 Marines, as well as the Turkish Air Force and Air Force.
      3. UNITED NATO air defense system, direction "South" (operational center Naples, Italy). system "Nage", intended. to notify NATO command about air. situation and guidance of fighters and missiles at air targets. O.S. NATO air defense works closely with NORAD, French, Spanish, Portuguese. nat. air defense systems and ships. air defense means of the 6th US Fleet in the Mediterranean.
      O.S. (north and south) NATO air defense totaled approx. 1700 PU SAM AND ST. 600 air defense fighter planes, 84 radar posts.

      Quote: Pacifist
      I suggest to put a microwave generator in azimuth

      on the "azimuth" is how?
      If they have a "white" noise on the radar station in Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, we can fry the eggs.
      only where to get such power?
  3. rhd
    +19
    21 September 2015 18: 38
    Quote:
    “At the same time, he emphasized that“ within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a dime on its own money: the allies will bear all the costs. ”


    Here IN THIS, I BELIEVE !!!
    1. +13
      21 September 2015 18: 41
      Quote: rhd
      “Within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a penny of its own money on it: allies will bear all the costs.”

      For free they can even join a shit-eating program. Yes
  4. +5
    21 September 2015 18: 39
    they can only provide their airfields for NATO aviation, they can control the small intestine, and their hands are short
    1. +4
      21 September 2015 18: 59
      am this is necessary
    2. +3
      21 September 2015 19: 31
      Not only airports will provide, but also Ukrainian women. Interestingly, the currency will be withdrawn immediately or in the hands of about five minutes will be allowed to hold? It’s just been transmitted on Life News about the intention to legalize prostitution to save the Ukrainian economy.
  5. +5
    21 September 2015 18: 39
    God forbid you get lost with nata in the heavenly expanses of the Russian Crimea! Pen.dosy will drift something, and you hardly! am
    1. +3
      21 September 2015 19: 34
      Quote: Major Yurik
      God forbid you get lost with nata in the heavenly expanses of the Russian Crimea!

      Be afraid of HEROD !!!
      "He died, having spent the fuel, all fell to pieces,
      But our two crazy brothers were picked up by fishermen. "
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  6. NKV
    +1
    21 September 2015 18: 41
    Something tells me that Mr. God will not work for you ..)) there is already someone to control!
  7. +8
    21 September 2015 18: 42
    all expenses will be borne by the allies

    There will be a grand cut ...
  8. +10
    21 September 2015 18: 43
    Let them regain control of their own brains. And it turns out that a dupa is the most important part of their body. They think a dupa, they make a dupa, they end up in a dupa and they live in a dupa - romance!
  9. +12
    21 September 2015 18: 44
    "ukroina plans" - it's time to bring down this glider to the devil's grandmother!
    1. +1
      21 September 2015 19: 22
      Quote: sv68
      "ukroina plans" - it's time to bring down this glider to the devil's grandmother!

      Why waste ammunition? He (the glider "Ukraine") will soon be a splash on the ground himself, so let's just peacefully stand on the sidelines and watch wink laughing
  10. +9
    21 September 2015 18: 46
    ... project on the accession of Ukraine to the so-called NATO program on regional air security.

    A Malaysian plane has already "flown" into their zone of "safe" responsibility ... angry
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 00: 54
      Do not forget our TU-154
  11. +4
    21 September 2015 18: 46
    These frozen dill morons can also shoot down a passenger plane over the sea, which they allegedly control. They are not used to it.
  12. +8
    21 September 2015 18: 46
    Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea

    In my opinion, it’s easier for them to dig a new sea today than to control the old laughing
  13. +2
    21 September 2015 18: 49
    Let them plan. They only need to yap, and there the grass does not grow.
  14. +8
    21 September 2015 18: 49
    "In February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
    And what?
    As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
    those. Kiev "closed" but could not influence flights.
    "barked" at a ruble and the action was not worth a penny.
    Heroam Sala
    1. +3
      21 September 2015 19: 01
      Quote: erseer
      "In February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
      And what?
      As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
      those. Kiev "closed" but could not influence flights.
      "barked" at a ruble and the action was not worth a penny.
      Heroam Sala

      They need another change of effort (in words, of course, because there is nothing more to do except words)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))
    2. +1
      21 September 2015 20: 44
      erseer
      "In February 2014, the Kiev authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean peninsula."
      And what?
      As far as I can see. Passenger planes fly without problems.
      those. Kiev "closed" but could not influence flights.

      That's right! If you declare yourself a pope, they will put you to Napoleon and the prosecutor ... and no one will pray for you! But if the whole world declares you to be this dad .... then you will receive all honorable honors.
      So with the closure of airspace over Crimea, only Kiev decided ... They announced - and everyone just laughs! But when the International Aviation Organization ... which is given such a right and confirmed by the signatures of almost 200 countries of the world, grants such a right to Dill ... then ... they can create so many problems for us that it won’t seem enough .... in any case most likely, our aviation will not fly to Crimea. Here, to create such a control center ... and its technical equipment, the West will give money ... put its specialists under the guise of instructors and then Kiev will request such a right of control! And, with a high probability, it can be obtained because to this day the West considers Crimea dill !!
      1. +1
        21 September 2015 20: 59
        when it will provide then we’ll talk. and at the moment, this influential office is guided by the real state of affairs.
        I remember that when, immediately after Crimea, the topic of ICAO was closed ... by the way, there was a topic about "optimization" of flight routes on Russian territory ...
        ICAO wisely decided not to fiddle with the topic of airspace over the Crimea and everything remained as it is, except that the VP over the Crimea quietly and calmly began to control the Russian Federation. and Kiev quietly worn himself out.
  15. +4
    21 September 2015 18: 52
    It’s interesting and what will it give them? A feeling of some significance in their own eyes is no more, in my opinion it is violet in Russia!
  16. +4
    21 September 2015 18: 54
    Hu hu no ho ho fools. From the beginning, take control of the goblin country.
    1. +3
      21 September 2015 18: 56
      the country is not interesting. here piz ... nut to the whole world sho "we're going to control the air space at the World Cup" ett cool. and "to promise does not mean to marry" ...
  17. +2
    21 September 2015 18: 56
    Who jumps, he too literally understands the words from the song about Odessa "... My Black Sea ..." Brains were shaken.
  18. +4
    21 September 2015 18: 56
    Almost off topic, but still. The submarine "Novorossiysk" has arrived at the submarine base in Novorossiysk! True, from the legonet 3,14 it was decided that the submarine passed from the northern seas without refueling. Well, that's what they are zhurnalyugi, so that with an honest look s3,14 to get out.
    1. +2
      21 September 2015 19: 15
      Journalists they are. Just recently, Great Britain was indignant that Spain allowed a Russian submarine to enter its port for the purpose of refueling. After all, it was clear to the fool that it was a question of Novorossiysk hi
  19. +2
    21 September 2015 18: 57
    Kiev has not shot down civilian aircraft for a long time? Again for the old.
  20. +6
    21 September 2015 18: 58
    The key phrase in the article: "Ukraine will not spend a dime of its own money on this: all costs will be borne by the allies".
  21. SVD
    +1
    21 September 2015 18: 59
    So it’s trifling - they would declare control of space, galaxies ... sunrise and sunset!
  22. +4
    21 September 2015 19: 04
    Oh well...! Work in progress ...
  23. +4
    21 September 2015 19: 07
    So they are actually trying to delegate the control of the Black Sea to NATO.
    1. +1
      21 September 2015 19: 20
      Well here the boys are already adults and therefore understood what the hell 404 all this chatter was needed.
      Well, the mattress covers will be dragged out under azo Ali Mariupol OWN radar, well, it will start to work.
      and the 404th is what the hell?
      well there will be mattresses with 404 shares information, maybe ...
      What, ukrobuki under the lion will respond to air targets over the World Cup?
      Rackets are not toys for children: either they themselves will suffer or another civilian board will be "landed" and, moreover, on their own territory and without any excuses, "we are not."
      "Morons b..la!" (c) Sergey Lavrov
    2. +4
      21 September 2015 19: 54
      Quote: Izotovp
      So they are actually trying to delegate the control of the Black Sea to NATO.


      W-O-O-O-T! Finally, a comment that really identified a threat to the Russian Federation ...
      What's higher in the commentary Meehan showed us is good. But this is only "stopping" the effect and not the cause ...

      And the "price of the issue", while ignoring the risks, inaction and indulging the junta, will grow disproportionately ...
  24. +10
    21 September 2015 19: 13
    They would have better controlled their own brains. And then they will say how in a puddle lane.
  25. +2
    21 September 2015 19: 15
    this is how to control the airspace over the Crimea and the Black Sea!? it’s like to have babos from this!? something like the processor overheated drinks
  26. +1
    21 September 2015 19: 17
    "..a limited mode of flight planning over the eastern part, which, in his opinion, is in the Ukrainian zone of responsibility." His opinion is at odds with that of his government, which has disowned responsibility for the downed Boeing. And it all looks like idle chatter.
  27. 0
    21 September 2015 19: 18
    Kiev plans to resume control of the airspace over the Black Sea


    Well ... They will bring the Piglet monitor into the office. He will stare at him between the glasses, that’s all control ... bully
  28. +1
    21 September 2015 19: 20
    Quote: sv68
    "ukroina plans" - it's time to bring down this glider to the devil's grandmother!



    Oh well ... I’ll kill someone else ... Gently land, and - disposed of in accordance with all the rules!)
  29. +3
    21 September 2015 19: 22
    Restore control, and he was? I remember they shot down an airplane over the Black Sea and for a very long time the controllers did not admit it.
  30. +1
    21 September 2015 19: 23
    You can, of course, take pity and allow them to Walpurgis Night - from April 30 to May 1, from 2400 to 0500 Moscow time, witches fly on brooms, but no more! laughing
  31. +2
    21 September 2015 19: 26
    They are going to control what no longer belongs to them. This is a wonderful change. NATO "will not fit" for dill, these are prudent, and they will not fly over the Crimea. And there is simply nothing for dill.
    1. +4
      21 September 2015 19: 30
      Where should they fly over our Crimea !? They could not even stop a truck with tomatoes at the border with their entire "army"! tongue lol
  32. +4
    21 September 2015 19: 31
    Ukraine plans You know, I am the same, here, I plan to buy maybach (with gold interior decoration). Gentlemen forum users, support us (me and Ukraine) with a kind word in our difficult undertakings wassat laughing !!!
    Ps And if you think about it, I’ll have more chances ... smile
  33. 0
    21 September 2015 19: 48
    defined object to be connected to this system ”
    What kind of object is this? Galushkomet? Also for "not a kopeck of money"? In general, according to the first media reports, the striped brothers fit in "to regain control over the airspace of the Crimea"! Just like that, no more, no less Probably a new team for a new destroyer for the Black Sea has been recruited. Not familiar with the phenomenon of "Crimean nividimki".
  34. +2
    21 September 2015 19: 49
    Here it is the Black Sea. Now I see everything. I control.
  35. 0
    21 September 2015 19: 53
    Control of Kiev over the Black Sea ended with the downed SBI1812

    No more No.

    And the protoukers around this are still dancing .. https://www.facebook.com/alshmatko/posts/269504209923836

    Having stayed ..
    1. 0
      21 September 2015 19: 55
      moreover, the "chosen by God" nation limited itself to monetary payments of 404 or more, and stuck its tongue in a lumpy dupa ...
  36. 0
    21 September 2015 20: 00
    Now they will begin to tinker with a slingshot, so that the "right-hand man" can be launched in flight.
    Then they won’t succeed, fools then have a short one-way flight and fervently accuse Russia of another fiasco wassat
  37. +2
    21 September 2015 20: 12
    What, a lot of planes ?! So we will quickly reduce the park! Dill, pedaling in the airspace of Russia is fraught. SHOW! The Black Sea is a zone of Russian interests. Forgot? Recall! When our flotilla enters Odessa ...
  38. +1
    21 September 2015 20: 24
    Well. Let's admit NATO (but not Kiev), they will control (spy on). But how are they going to "manage" !?
  39. 0
    21 September 2015 20: 35
    Key phrase “Within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a dime on its own money: the allies will bear all the costs”.
  40. 0
    21 September 2015 20: 38
    we must say directly - "LET'S REMOVE HANDS ON ABALO." cardboard controllers .....
  41. 0
    21 September 2015 20: 38
    When will this Khokhlyat’s pack stop drinking denatured alcohol and each time catching a squirrel? ...
  42. 0
    21 September 2015 20: 45
    Simferopol Air Traffic Control Center was subordinate to Aeroorukh (Krimaerorukh) Previously Siyu -UES of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the RF
  43. +1
    21 September 2015 20: 56
    I don’t understand a damn ... And what is NATO's so-called regional air security program? Is this just another hoax invention? Maybe someone will tell by what hashtag what thread about this program can be found? And then here some almost patrols of eurofighter with full ammunition represent ...
  44. +1
    21 September 2015 21: 04
    “At the same time, he stressed that“ within the framework of the program, Ukraine will not spend a dime of its own money on this: all costs will be borne by the allies. ”

    For the poor Ruins - THIS is the most important thing. Any dirty trick for other people's money - this is the motto of dill.
  45. +2
    21 September 2015 21: 06
    All right, wash yourself, quilted jackets !!! Svidooboronprom has released the latest airspace control device (without the letter "t") - "Banderushi-1", named after the catolup itself))))
  46. +1
    21 September 2015 21: 10
    Quote: KazaK Bo
    After all, the WEST Crimea officially considers dill! And this means that the responsibility zone for controlling the movement of aircraft ships and in the zone of Crimea will most likely be left to Ukrainian people by the decision of the ICAO ... And every flight of our aviation to Crimea without the permission of the flight control center will be punished very severely by the International Aviation Organization - from large monetary fines before the ban of flights of our aircraft over the territory and not only of Europe !.

    They will grow foul and unevenly ... Europe is not in for great conflicts (and Russia can also present gifts of Western aviation with flights over our territory), and the States too.
  47. +1
    21 September 2015 21: 21
    They most likely want to defrost Transnistria so that the air supply of the PMR is under the watchful eye of the VSA and in every way interferes.
    It is unlikely that the Americans will do this. Drilled.
    So let the saliva spray. They won’t succeed.))))))
  48. 0
    21 September 2015 21: 25
    Do not tell my nerves. What control, than? People, are you clowns? Who is this tirade for?
  49. +1
    21 September 2015 21: 30
    you can want a lot, I want Angelina Jolie, but what's the point!
    1. +1
      21 September 2015 21: 34
      test wish!
      but I beg your pardon, I even wanted her before you!
      You are at least second, well after mnu ...
  50. 0
    21 September 2015 22: 07
    I love these plans a lot!
    But, it is one thing to put forward plans, and quite another to put forward military aircraft in the Black Sea.
    Earlier, the United States has already put forward its ships there. But, embarrassment came out!
    How Ukrainian sailors embarrassed, this is a special story !!!
    Return of the Mirage to Sevastopol.
    http://darksnoel.livejournal.com/128755.html
    1. 0
      21 September 2015 22: 29
      somehow my sheolny druch sang a song:

      Once I’m rooting mine, Seryoga
      As usual they ran a little
      And to wash away the surging grief
      We decided to skimp a couple at sea ..
      We sailed, the wind howled in our underpants
      The boat chased us for three hours ...
      But we left them bottom with songs
      Well, can anyone compare with us !?
      ... there is a continuation
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  52. 0
    21 September 2015 22: 34
    crests, as things go, have everything else under complete control, all that remains is to control the airspace over the Black Sea. Clowns.
  53. 0
    21 September 2015 22: 50
    ...in February 2014, the Kyiv authorities closed the airspace over the Crimean Peninsula...
    holey panties or something, has anyone noticed?
  54. 0
    21 September 2015 23: 37
    With their reputation, in general, all controls should be taken away and no longer allowed to do complex and dangerous things.
  55. 0
    21 September 2015 23: 44
    Everything is sad. The States, through the idiots of Svidomo, are trying to close the Black Sea sky and not only the sky for us. And this is just the beginning. It's time to give the arrogant Saxons a slap on the wrist.
  56. 0
    22 September 2015 01: 26
    Ukraine intends to resume control and management of airspace over the Black Sea

    In my opinion, this intention will not lead to anything good. The results of Ukraine's control of airspace are very sad and known throughout the world.
  57. 0
    22 September 2015 02: 16
    It is clear that a Ukrainian will not blurt out such a thing without the permission of the United States. Cold War. Another attack from our American friends. They teach us democracy...
    In 1991 we destroyed the USSR...
  58. 0
    22 September 2015 05: 18
    Ukrainian idiocy is off the charts, but so far only wishful thinking...
  59. 0
    22 September 2015 05: 30
    No matter what the dill indulge in, as long as they don’t have to pay money.
  60. 0
    22 September 2015 06: 21
    Maybe someone will control something. I just don’t understand what kind of control this is when your control systems turn on and off at the request of a Su-24 flying past?
  61. 0
    22 September 2015 08: 18
    Well, representatives of the “full-time Kyiv leadership” spoke out and said that “the boss is gone...”, but they are just here for “decoration” and talking heads, but the point is that NATO is trying to “put pressure” on Russia by any means necessary! You can, of course, say in response that their “pressor” has not yet grown and recall the fate of previous “pressors” such as Bonaparte and Adolf! And we and no one else will control our Black Sea!
  62. 0
    22 September 2015 14: 19
    Controllers! bully And it seems to me that special joy was caused by the mention that for the “404 country” it would not cost “A PENNY”. This is such a concentrated freebie: to get used to NATO, and to control the sky, and it doesn’t cost a penny.
    My grandmother used to say “a cheap fish is a worthless fish.” And here - not a penny.
  63. +1
    23 September 2015 21: 26
    Yes, bullshit! Ukraine can do everything or it can (?) They will dig up another sea, even more beautiful, even blacker, and they will control it for free. Maybe they’ll also seize the Mistrals from Egypt, probably they’ll be more accommodating and snatch them away without haggling.
  64. 0
    23 September 2015 23: 17
    Ukrainians cannot be trusted with anything. Once a TU-154 of the Sibir aircraft was shot down over the Black Sea, then an MH17 over the Donbass. So you can’t trust them to control anything.