A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity

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Sometimes you catch yourself thinking that a considerable number of Russian lawmakers have too much free time, which they don’t want to spend on developing constructive and effective legislative measures, but willingly spend on self-promotion or even more dubious initiatives. So, the reason for the next thought about the presence of a lot of free time from certain legislators of the two chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, prompted the publication of the information agency TASS, which reported on the initiative of a member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.



The initiative is that in Russia attempts to "rehabilitate Stalinism" should be equated to "extremism" with all the consequences for the "rehabilitators" in criminal terms. In fact, the Dobrynin initiative sends all those who “rehabilitate Stalinism” either to Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Incitement of hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity” (maximum punishment is imprisonment for up to 5 years) “Rehabilitation of Nazism” (maximum punishment - imprisonment for up to 354.1 years).

TASS reports that the bill proposed by Senator Konstantin Dobrynin, who is the deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s committee on constitutional legislation and state construction, states that any materials in which “Stalinism” will be rehabilitated should be recognized as extremist materials, as well as materials “rehabilitating persons involved in the crimes of the Stalinist regime. "

A separate line is this:
the prohibition (...) of assigning names (apparently, “Stalinist” - author's note) to new geographical objects.


At the same time, there is a rather vague wording in the draft law that cannot be considered “the rehabilitation of Stalinism”:
(...) denial of the accusation of the political leadership of the Soviet state in carrying out the policy of genocide, committing crimes against humanity, as well as in carrying out any other actions that have not been subject to official state condemnation, is not a denial of the crimes of the Stalinist totalitarian regime and is protected by constitutional norms of freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

The author of the bill:
It is reliably known that from 1921 to 1953 more than 4 million people were convicted of "counter-revolutionary crimes", including nearly 800 thousand sentenced to death. It becomes obvious that the Stalinist repressions were unprecedented in scale and affected the entire Soviet society as a whole. But in recent years, idealized, one-sided, not appropriate, has been increasingly promoted among the population historical reality is the image of the Stalin era, which "causes enormous damage to the Russian state and society.


Yes, obviously, obviously ... Or just as "obvious" as for certain individuals, "Stalin's crime in terms of unwillingness to evacuate people from Leningrad before the blockade is obvious." We remember the Dozhdin poll ... Or it’s just as “obvious” as the fact that Stalin “was ready to go to war first, just Hitler beat him a little”. Or about "one rifle for three" and "General of the Frost" ... Here we recall the famous words of the writer Sergey Dovlatov:

We endlessly criticize Comrade Stalin, and, of course, for the cause. And yet I want to ask - who wrote the four million denunciations?


Apparently, for this phrase today Dovlatov could be brought in if the initiative of Dobrynin was suddenly approved ...

For some reason, after this publication on the TASS pages of information about the senator Dobrynin’s initiative, the “bright image” of Lia Akhedzhakova stood up with her systematic calls to “repent!” Apparently, Mr. Senator Medzhidovny is haunted, and therefore he decided to use his legislative potential not to develop documents that would improve the economic system of the country, the social sphere, develop national security, and for its own PR company. After all, frankly, the senatorial corps is no different publicity, and here the senator has such a chance to declare himself, and even to please the ultra-liberal public, and foreign too. Like, ah yes, senator, ah yes he poured these "quilted jackets, colorads, rashistam" ...

So what does the senator suggest? It turns out that if any of the historians, publicists, journalists publish declassified archival documents or based on this will prepare articles that the repression of 30-40-x is, undoubtedly, terrible, but rumors about MILLIONS shot and tortured in the basement of the NKVD too exaggerated by all sorts of Svanidze and other "non-living specialists", then such people, by definition, fall into the number of criminals?

I remember, not so long ago, your humble servant published material on concentration camps in the stateswhere the US authorities drove hundreds of thousands of Japanese during the Second World War - American, by the way, citizens. Then, in the camps, tens of thousands of people died from hunger, cold, and hard everyday work. And the material talked about the fact that the Russian authorities have already admitted the fact of Stalin’s repressions a hundred times, rehabilitated their victims with full restoration of rights, but Washington does not show a desire to go the same way in relation to the repressions of the 40s in the United States. But the US authorities have a new and new desire to put pressure on Russia to identify Stalinism and Nazism in our country. It is noteworthy that not a single senator showed up in Washington, who would call for a trial of denying repressions against Japanese citizens during World War II. It won't even occur to anyone, since in the USA they solved this problem, well, quite simply - archdemocratic - they simply don’t write about it in textbooks ... They say they know less - sleep better ... We also have about repression 30-40 In the USSR, thousands of volumes of the most diverse literature came out (with a peak during the perestroika and post-perestroika period), they write about it, they say, they tell the younger generation, but no one, thank God, forbids citizens themselves to explore data on the real volumes of Stalinist repressions and do findings. It turns out that this material, on the basis of Senator Konstantin Dobrynin’s bill, also seems to fall under the “rehabilitation of Stalinism” - well, a comparison was made and no fewer facts of repression in the USA were pointed out, the authorities of which are clearly far from repentance only, by the way, in relation to the Japanese ...

By the way, why is it proposed to judge only for "denying Stalinist repression." Why not expand this bill by “the crime of denying the repressions of Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great (what are you looking for! - he cut beards to the boyars, - herod ...), Nicholas I (repressed the Decembrists ...), etc. Then it would be possible to send half the country to the bunk, and, as a result, Senator Dobrynin could himself go down in history as the author of a new wave of repression in Russia ...

A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity


By the way, most recently on «Radio Svoboda» there was also material about another “remarkable in all respects” initiative of the same senator. Konstantin Dobrynin called on “different social groups” to discuss the issue of the rights of representatives of the Russian LGBT community and the possibility of homosexuals (lesbians) to create married couples. From the statement of Dobrynin:

I believe that Russia sooner or later will have to solve this problem. The last thing a state should do is turn away and pretend that there is no acute issue, that everything is all right, that the minority is satisfied with everything, that there are no issues in the relationship between the majority and the minority. It is worth thinking about such issues in advance, starting some kind of adequate legal discussions. But we have something completely different: the level of aggression in the relations between the minority and the majority on this issue goes off scale, calm conversation is impossible. Now, it seems to me, that very moment has come when the tone becomes even more important than the content. The calmer we begin to discuss the controversial issues, the more optimal solution can be found. In what form it will be, I am not ready to say now, I do not have an answer to this question - what will be the norm, whether homosexual relations will be legalized in the form of marriage. Marriage is not the only legal form that can govern this relationship.


In general, the senator is concerned about someone's denial of the repressions of 30-40 in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community ... For the denial of the possibility of registering marriages between homosexuals will also be planted? ..

It is noteworthy that the senator began to formulate his concerns vividly in the year of the completion of his powers as a senator. If you believe the help of Sovfed, the powers of Konstantin Dobrynin as a senator from the Arkhangelsk region expire already this month. Hence the activation? ..
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  1. +40
    22 September 2015 06: 32
    I don’t understand, what for to stir up history? What was, what was. There were always and everywhere excesses on the part of the state. There were always dissatisfied people. Well, then what? Why doesn't this "member" really remember the rest of our history?

    In general, it is time to introduce a criminal article for all these "members" who, instead of doing their direct duties (improving the economic and other situations in the region, country), are doing what they are not supposed to do by definition. Look, we have historical academics, let them deal with history. Too many "members" got divorced and they really seem to have nothing to do!
    1. +4
      22 September 2015 06: 51
      Quote: Obolensky
      I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

      There was a wonderful article: http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
      I highly recommend it to all the gentlemen who decided to play with the distortion of the facts. Well and to the rest - amusing reading matter with unequivocal implication.
      1. 0
        22 September 2015 10: 15
        Article tin !!!))))))))))))))
      2. 0
        22 September 2015 10: 15
        Article tin !!!))))))))))))))
    2. +6
      22 September 2015 08: 30
      Quote: Obolensky
      ... what the hell are you telling a story? What was, was.

      "what for history?"- He doesn't stir her up, he just shits it.

      Quote: Obolensky
      There, we have historical academics, even if they are engaged in history.

      Well, here they are, again: "... the master will come, the master will judge ...". Not so simple. There are few academicians, and there is no sense in their work. They are apparently busy with the wrong thing: "... control and accounting ..." without this we "will not see luck in the progress of historical science." What's the point of paying the academy and academics? If there was a result from them, then this is a "senator" and would not be able to blather such a thing, without being ridiculed, and so the work of academicians is obvious. Any outspoken pig is now able to offend a great man, and for this he will get nothing. Directly according to the sentence: "Let's drink so that we have everything, and nothing for it."
      1. +2
        22 September 2015 10: 10
        Nobody spoke about "master". You misunderstood me. I just think that everyone should mind their own business. A historian - by history, an archaeologist - by archeology, and a member of the Federation Council - by his direct duties.

        We have enough academicians. The fact that there are few works is a fact. Although historical research is a dime a dozen. Starting with the delights of "Norman" history, ending with a "condensed chronology". But the sources will not be enough. And provided that the story is a complete political corrupt girl, who will pay more or who will order from above, then it will be so. Each government has its own story. And yes, I agree that now the insults of great people go unpunished. As long as everyone is doing something other than their own business (in this case, stirring up history and dirtying historical characters) - everything will be so with us.
        1. +2
          22 September 2015 15: 06
          To your son, or to your grandson, what do you say yourself if you ask? Will you send it to the "academicians"? Do you have your own opinion? Where did it come from?
        2. -1
          22 September 2015 18: 01
          Quote: Obolensky
          ... history - a complete political selling girlwhoever pays more or who orders from above will be so. ...

          It is a classic brilliant remark, do not add do not diminish.

          Quote: Obolensky
          I just think that everyone should do their own thing. The historian - by history, the archaeologist - by archeology, and the member of the Federation Council - by his direct duties.
          ... I agree that now insults of great people go unpunished. While with us everyone will not be engaged in their own business ...

          "For now, everyone will do not their own business" - here they are exactly "their"business (or rather the business of some gang of their own) and are engaged, instead of in a state position, at the expense of the state (and not any other) to be engaged in state affairs, and not in the business of a third-party gang that has nothing to do with the tasks For example, let us recall the recent fire in the library of the Russian Academy of Sciences, comments are unnecessary.
          About "delights of "Norman" history ... "I will add an unimaginable, unfounded, clearly anti-state lie named"Mongol-Tatar yoke"But these nonsense appeared quite recently (mainly in 1942, not counting Karamzin). Leave all these questions at the mercy of today's academicians, assuming it's their own business, I consider unacceptable negligence of both the whole society and myself
    3. +2
      22 September 2015 10: 19
      Quote: Obolensky
      I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

      In kind, why? Alexander Isaevich is an icon. And the President prays for her in public. Finally, pull the Chekist out from under the bed of Novodvorskaya and put an end to it. Big black dot. Like a black maxim. Confuse foreigners and confuse others. And we implement the HPP. Then we will expose the AIS and rehabilitate the IVS. The whole world with the entire Russian civil society just o ... em. And our president will be officially titled "Your Darkness". And then some kind of "excellency." Like a major general. Shame. PS, It's sarcasm like that. And then put the cons again for nothing.
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 17: 37
        He has already been exposed .....
    4. MrK
      0
      23 September 2015 15: 36
      Thanks Obolensky. I will add. One not stupid man said: Even if you are an angel there is always someone who does not like the rustle of your wings.
  2. +1
    22 September 2015 06: 33
    Well, the senator ignites !!! You can make a film: dumb and dumber! In the leading role, he himself! In the feeding trough for cutting (SF) and the State Duma has not gone far!
    1. +7
      22 September 2015 07: 46
      Quote: astronom1973n
      Well, the senator ignites !!! You can make a film: dumb and dumber! In the leading role, he himself! In the feeding trough for cutting (SF) and the State Duma has not gone far!


      And these "personalities" decide our destinies !!! Sailor Zheleznyak, you died early.
  3. +26
    22 September 2015 06: 33
    The logic is interesting, he began with Stalin, he graduated from ami. So he would immediately say that he is blue and defends their rights. Blue should not have any rights, except for one thing: to be silent in a rag, and sniff into two holes.
    1. +3
      22 September 2015 08: 22
      .Must not be

      As it should not, it should, or rather should be an ARTICLE IN THE UK
    2. +2
      22 September 2015 09: 43
      Quote: asiat_61
      The logic is interesting, he began with Stalin, he graduated from ami. So he would immediately say that he is blue and defends their rights. Blue should not have any rights, except for one thing: to be silent in a rag, and sniff into two holes.

      laughing Duc all right linked, under Stalin for sodomy or would have shot or for 20 years to cut down forests to fool the dope, so I decided to play it safe, otherwise it’s not enough
      1. +2
        22 September 2015 10: 28
        Quote: Corsair
        under Stalin, for sodomy, either they would shoot or for 20 years cut down forests to foolishness

        You are like Novodvorskaya. Keep yourself in control. Sanction on 118 (not to lie) article of such horror as
        Quote: Corsair
        shot

        did not provide. If, with special cynicism, a group by prior conspiracy and necessarily by assignment defensive or sigurans, they could be sentenced to execution. Then, after understanding, replace with 3 years of general regime.
  4. +14
    22 September 2015 06: 35
    In general, the senator is preoccupied with someone's denial of the repressions of the 30-40s in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community.

    And where is he on salary? what
    1. +5
      22 September 2015 06: 58
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In general, the senator is preoccupied with someone's denial of the repressions of the 30-40s in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community.

      And where is he on salary? what

      According to article 27 of the law "On the status of a member of the Federation Council and the status of a deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation", all members of the Federation Council are paid a monthly monetary remuneration "in the amount established for the federal minister." The size of the monthly monetary remuneration is approved by a presidential decree. Earlier, Sergei Mironov, who from 2001 to 2011 was the chairman of the Federation Council, said that the parliamentarians have "a fixed salary" and "no bonuses and charges" (quoted by the Vesti.ru portal).

      How can he "poor" not take care of the ped. kakh. Maybe they will add it.
  5. +14
    22 September 2015 06: 36
    This is a terrible dream of this deputy, if Stalin had returned, the deputies would have brought at least some benefit from logging.
  6. +19
    22 September 2015 06: 36
    “Rehabilitation of Stalinism” should be equated with “extremism”

    But it seems to me that it is time to think about how such a "ghoul" takes such a position. Something recently too often "guardians" for "justice" began to creep out. I am sure if you dig deeper, then this K. Dobrynin has so many skeletons in the closet that he himself will not be glad that he raised this topic.
    1. +6
      22 September 2015 07: 05
      Why in the closet? Look at the portrait! Typical stupid and arrogant "brother"! They paid and put their own in power. What is there to talk about. The Cossack decided to portray the work.
      1. +14
        22 September 2015 08: 31
        Quote: TVM - 75
        Look at the portrait! Typical stupid and arrogant "brother"!

        similar to semchenko, very similar ...
        1. +2
          22 September 2015 08: 59
          Quote: PSih2097
          similar to semchenko, very similar ...

          It is similar in terms of a similar disease: hydrocephalus, oligophrenic or whatever.
        2. +3
          22 September 2015 09: 26
          There is such a physiognomy thing. Although currently considered a pseudoscience in psychology, it is quite suitable for this instance and the like.
  7. +7
    22 September 2015 06: 39
    Senators have too much free time. Let them go to the construction of the Kerch bridge. Or give out sandwiches to the homeless. In short, a lot of cases.
  8. +8
    22 September 2015 06: 40
    This is the main thing in the article, for understanding, so to speak, what kind of stuffed animal we have in the Senate.
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 12: 13
      Thanks for the information on the "senator".
      I would also like to add from myself that such proposals have no practical benefit and they can be safely called empty talk, which only distracts from the urgent problems of the state.
      Only for this kind of "law-making" proposals can such officials be safely removed from work.
  9. +5
    22 September 2015 06: 41
    I read about this people's deputy - such a feeling of disgust - as in crap. Climbed.
    Why is he still "inviolable". Hands itch to remind him of all sorts of things "Stalinism".
  10. +5
    22 September 2015 06: 42
    I would like to know what Senator Dobrynin MADE useful for the homeland? How do these become powerful?
  11. +9
    22 September 2015 06: 43
    Stalin is not enough not only for our country, but also for many other countries that have forgotten how our tanks took their cities. I watched a doc film about German prisoners of war who had been in captivity until 1955. I’ll tell you right away that the film is not ours, not Russian, and they fed them ice cream about American captivity; But only one out of 400 said that the Russians were bad and spoke very warmly about Stalin, maybe we are saying something to a good person who knew how to make friendly citizens out of enemies like that))).
  12. +13
    22 September 2015 06: 49
    Senator Konstantin Dobrynin, who is the deputy chairman of the committee of the Federation Council on Constitutional legislation and state building

    What a frank moron-and occupies such a position, involving at least a minimum of legal knowledge.
    First, give a legal definition of the concept of "Stalinism" and legally recognize it as "criminal", then write ...
  13. +1
    22 September 2015 06: 52
    He was stunned by a sense of his own exclusiveness and the impossibility of finding the application of his "democratic" impulses on another front of social change.
  14. +5
    22 September 2015 06: 56
    Well, when will they still begin to be judged for lying and denying the truth?
    The set of words smoothly passed into the freedom of unlimited lies.
    Imposing labels in itself is indecent (recall the candelabra).
    I propose, only for the use of the term "Stalinism", to punish the most severely (better immediately, without trial and delay). But this entire period can only be defined as the period of unprecedented heyday of the country. (dot)
  15. +15
    22 September 2015 06: 56
    Isn't it time to start dismissing such innovators for such "initiatives"? Quite good job: zero sense, from time to time they push another nonsense into the masses and at the same time enjoy all the benefits of the servants of the people and receive a considerable salary. This bastard feeds on my labor ruble and I have to pay for the existence of this bum !? I disagree!
  16. +2
    22 September 2015 06: 59
    Quote: inkass_98
    Quote: Obolensky
    I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

    There was a wonderful article: http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
    I highly recommend it to all the gentlemen who decided to play with the distortion of the facts. Well and to the rest - amusing reading matter with unequivocal implication.


    Bravo. Thank you I read it with pleasure. Unfortunately, only historical distortions were not only with us, and not only in our time. Alas.
  17. +9
    22 September 2015 07: 05
    "Member of the Federation Council proposes to equate" rehabilitation of Stalinism "with extremist activity"

    And the propaganda of democracy, then, equate to terrorist activity. This will be much fairer and more accurate. How many "democratizers" of wars and wars have organized in the world, no dictator can compare with them, neither in quantity nor in cruelty.
  18. +8
    22 September 2015 07: 05
    And all this turbidity is due to the fact that we do not have a Law on the recall of deputies and senators. Ponomarev has been in the West for more than a year, and has been receiving salaries.
  19. +7
    22 September 2015 07: 06
    on the initiative of a member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.


    And huh hu not ho-ho !?

    In general, the senator is concerned about someone's denial of the repressions of 30-40 in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community ... For the denial of the possibility of registering marriages between homosexuals will also be planted? ..


    How did he even crawl into the SF?

    "I know that after my death a heap of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of history will scatter it mercilessly!"
    "Many deeds of our party and people will be perverted and spat upon, first of all abroad, and in our country too. Zionism, striving for world domination, will brutally avenge us for our successes and achievements. It still considers Russia a barbaric country, as a raw material appendage. And my name will also be slandered, slandered. I will be credited with many atrocities. World Zionism will strive with all its might to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be directed primarily at breaking this friendship, opening the outskirts of Russia. Here, I must admit, we have not done everything. There is still a large field of work.
    Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise. Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
    In general, in the future development will go more complex and even frantic ways, the turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East will be particularly upset. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
    And yet, no matter how events develop, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the affairs and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due.

    They will build their future on our past "

    (I.V. Stalin. From a recording of a conversation with A. Kollontai)
  20. +2
    22 September 2015 07: 10
    Ha ha !!! Well, the shot decided to show off before leaving the post of senator. And by the way, the face does not sparkle with intelligence.

    http://barentsobserver.com/ru/politika/2015/08/arhangelskiy-senator-uhodit-iz-so
    veta-federacii-03-08

    P.S. Sorry administration for vocabulary and a link to a third-party resource
  21. +3
    22 September 2015 07: 19
    This, if I may say so, "senator" is a living illustration of the paradoxes and quirks of contemporary Russian reality in the power structures.
    They keep such a liberal boy (and not just him - remember Ksyusha’s mother in the Federation Council and others) in the highest echelons of power to give himself, loved ones, a democratic connotation. How else?! We have a free country!
    True, the overlays in this regard happen. For example, the Lyakhov’s perplexity at the Foreign Ministry’s demarche regarding the destruction of the monument to General Chernyakhovsky was not surprising: they dismantled the Stalinist satrap — you, in Russia, are already discussing this issue in the SF!
    Well, from this "boy", at least just like that, it stinks on the sly ... But the liberal "boys" and "girls" in the economic bloc are a real pi.pets ...
  22. +3
    22 September 2015 07: 26
    A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity... Well, how they got down to Geyser ... Dobrynin remembered about the "victims" of Stalinism ..
    1. msm
      msm
      0
      23 September 2015 11: 11
      Very subtle remark. In my opinion, very true!
  23. +3
    22 September 2015 07: 38
    And from where they dug up this! After all, it is clear that intelligence is not mutilated!
  24. +1
    22 September 2015 07: 44
    Ekary Babai. And where did they dig it from fool
  25. +2
    22 September 2015 07: 45
    Well, then everything is clear - the "senator" ends his "senatorial" career and realizes that one trough is running out and it is necessary to look for another. This gentleman, like other creatures like him, does not know how to do anything besides talking his tongue, and obviously did not show himself in organizational and other spheres of activity, so that he would be "noticed" at the top and offered another state position after the end of the "senatorial" term, therefore, he understands perfectly well that he now has only one road - to "opposition", to try to settle down to the feeding trough of NGOs, he may be able to feed himself with "grants" from overseas for some time, so this gentleman began to develop his "image" in advance, so that by that time already, to appear before the eyes of the new overseas masters already as a "fighter" with "totalitarianism" and "gebney", so to speak, with experience. Nothing personal, ordinary "business" of an ordinary, typical opportunist.
  26. -1
    22 September 2015 07: 50
    How do such people get into power?
    1. +4
      22 September 2015 08: 03
      How do they get there? Yes, it's very simple, you and "choose" them, voting without thinking or, in general, without going to the polls.
      1. +2
        22 September 2015 08: 28
        There is no need to be naive, the people could really CHOOSE only if they were right. And now there is a "tax" for any election, he has not stolen the required amount from those whom you are going to rule - he is free.
      2. +2
        22 September 2015 13: 38
        In February 2012, he won the election of deputies of the municipal council of education "Yemtsovskoye", Arkhangelsk region (self-nominated - what he promised the people there is unknown).
        In March 2012, he became a senator of the Federation Council, represented the interests of the government of the Arkhangelsk region, was a representative of the executive body of the region (the candidacy was determined in advance by the GOVERNOR)
        It is unlikely that the deputy of the municipal council for whom I allegedly voted has the right to legislative initiative.
        BUST: In August 2015, the governor of the Arkhangelsk region announced that Konstantin Dobrynin was not included in the list of candidates for senators. It's time to ask him (the governor) - and for what kind of merit did Dobrynin be represented at all in the Federation Council ??

        And how do you respected generally represent your civil right to elections if you do not go to them? Maidan or what ?? It is another matter if in the village "noodles" to the ears of people hung, promised, knowing in advance (guaranteed?) What would happen in the Council.
    2. -2
      22 September 2015 08: 06
      You choose))))! Move on to the polls!
      1. +1
        22 September 2015 13: 34
        In February 2012, he won the election of deputies of the municipal council of education "Yemtsovskoye", Arkhangelsk region (self-nominated - what he promised the people there is unknown).
        In March 2012, he became a senator of the Federation Council, represented the interests of the government of the Arkhangelsk region, was a representative of the executive body of the region (Nomination determined in advance by the GOVERNOR)
        It is unlikely that the deputy of the municipal council for whom I allegedly voted has the right to legislative initiative.
        BUST: In August 2015, the governor of the Arkhangelsk region announced that Konstantin Dobrynin was not included in the list of candidates for senators. It's time to ask him (the governor) - and for what kind of merit did Dobrynin be represented at all in the Federation Council ??

        And how do you respected generally represent your civil right to elections if you do not go to them? Maidan or what ?? It is another matter if in the village "noodles" to the ears of people hung, promised, knowing in advance (guaranteed?) What would happen in the Council.
        1. -1
          24 September 2015 09: 01
          I put to the polls. Yeah ... there’s always enough fools, smart ones are a little less, and there are practically no intelligent ones!

          Here is a link for you: https://youtu.be/jI1q2W0lELw

          The truth is there about the Maidan, but the basis is the same for the elections. The goblin specifically explains who organizes everything and how. A simple person simply does not have SUCH money to organize so much. Consequently, if those who organize all this are not from among the common people, therefore they are potential enemies of the people, for they go to the feeding trough to rob this very people, which they choose from their poor folly. You can assume that the fact that I do not go to the polls is a sign of protest against all the current authorities and this form of state called erefiya. My homeland of the USSR!
  27. +5
    22 September 2015 07: 50
    "The question is certainly interesting ...", but the surprising thing is: who appointed this representative of the "fifth" column to the legislative body of the country and for what merits? And what raises many more questions is why a loafer and an obvious enemy of Russia is still sitting in the Sov.Feda of the Russian Federation, but he already committed a crime when he advocated the permission of same-sex marriages in Russia! And now he pulls his "dirty hands" to our history, well after all, an obvious agent of the Fashington regime and is still at large! Dear Guarantor of the Constitution, take care of the fate of this traitor, it looks like he sat in the power structures and it's time for him to go to the felling!
  28. +2
    22 September 2015 07: 52
    It is a pity, there were no men in the Arkhangelsk region, to send this pid ... "Sinatra" to the place that he so protects.
    1. +3
      22 September 2015 09: 18
      Yes, he sits in Moscow, and here the region. Or do you think Narusova in Tuva, and then lived in Bryansk ?! lol
    2. 0
      22 September 2015 13: 50
      Well, why, from their area, they sent him to hell))))
  29. 0
    22 September 2015 07: 55
    He senses the scum that he will soon go to the felling ... Arkhangelsk people, shame on you, because it was your "deputy" who "gave birth" to this, because you chose him (or did not choose with a turnout of no more than 30% - you can hardly choose anyone) !
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 08: 05
      To go to the polls - you need to know those for whom you vote! Do the people know them? The question arises: gentlemen going to the polls, are you fools or mentally deranged ???

      Here is the answer!
  30. +5
    22 September 2015 08: 01
    Now everyone understands who is in our power, according to the principle of getting dumb, still dumb. I would receive a salary like a nurse's in 10 thousand rubles, I would immediately remember STALIN, yelling at an ELEPHANT, but you are not worthy of his hair tip, look at yourself, "a parody of life", but the men in the Arkhangelsk region were transferred.
  31. +2
    22 September 2015 08: 03
    Maybe this moron will declare the enemy of the people and put w * sing on the count !? He will surely enjoy it!

    For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
  32. +2
    22 September 2015 08: 13
    Whose mill is NOT Comrade Dobrynin blowing? Equating what is called "Stalinism" with Nazism is an absolutely hostile action aimed at revising the results and achievements of the USSR, including in the Victory in WWII and WWII, and the post-war reconstruction of the World (section of spheres In fact, the continuation of the Civil War. By the way. The question of the Kuriles has a direct bearing on this. Like the lands of the Kaliningrad region. The USSR is Russia (one of the social options (stages) of Historical existence). You would be at the beginning Dobrynin has learned the people's opinion (you won't get half of it). It is worth taking a closer look at Dobrynin's connections, including sex. How he throws him in the "sides"!
  33. 0
    22 September 2015 08: 14
    Dobrynina to the count!
  34. 0
    22 September 2015 08: 19
    How much indignation and all after the pederastic, in the literal sense, initiative. Now, if he simply blurted out about AND IN STALIN, maybe it would have gone unnoticed against the general background, there were already such * dealers *. Understanding that they themselves do not represent anyone other than sponsors, and here they * stand out * from the total mass of bad initiatives.
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 19: 15
      The most ardent opponents of the SOVIET UNION were the Nazis and fascists, who were fed by American and other European democracies, still exist in the * West *. And after all, we have * democrats * voicing Nazi and fascist ideas, and they see nothing strange in this. The ideas of the Nazis are very organically intertwined with the ideas of modern Caucasians and those whom Caucasians feed already with us. It is a pity that supporters of Caucasians * graze * in the law enforcement bodies of RUSSIA, which is probably why direct traitors find * understanding *, and sometimes even protection. However, gangsters and entire gangster * communities * surprisingly continue to not only exist, but also continue to enrich themselves.
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  35. Owl
    +1
    22 September 2015 08: 22
    Such deputies - to judge and punish! There are many questions to the "servants of the people": when will there be a law on deprivation of Russian citizenship? When will a citizen be allowed to defend his life, his property and the life of another person with a short-barreled rifled weapon (with a pistol)? when will the visa regime be introduced with Asian countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan) and with Ukraine? If Putin is hindering the honest "elected people of the people", then let them honestly say so, if no one bothers them - why do we need such deputies!
  36. +7
    22 September 2015 08: 24
    (C) a considerable number of Russian lawmakers have too much free time that they do not want to spend on developing constructive and effective legislative measures, but they willingly spend on self-PR or even more dubious initiatives.

    The author should not be naive, even with the goal of "people grabbing". This SENATOR is a clear ENEMY, it's not about excess free time, PR or initiatives. This is his WAR against the Russian World, just in our troubled times it's time to start calling things by their proper names. And he hates Stalin to the point of convulsions because he is one of many rulers who could resist the "hydra" of the boyars, nobility, party nomenklatura, and bureaucracy. Such "activists" hate Grozny and Stalin more than anyone else, just for this reason, but sooner or later they themselves will drown in the sea of ​​slop that they poured on these WORTHY people.
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 16: 50
      Do not flatter yourself. It’s been rumored that Ivan IV (Ivan III’s grandfather was Grozny) has been rumored for 430 years that he was fierce, bloodthirsty, exterminating his own people, he didn’t regret his son and killed him in a rage. This lie was invented by the papal legate, a high-ranking Jesuit Anthony Possevin. He is also known for inventing and trying to realize political intrigue, hoping with the help of Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes to put Russia in intolerable conditions, and thus force Ivan the Terrible to subordinate the Orthodox Church to the Pope. But the king held a difficult diplomatic game, managing to use Posevin to sign peace with Poland and not making any concessions to Rome.
      For more than 400 years this lie has been alive. Tsar Ivan could not win the Livonian War. The sanctions situation was very reminiscent of today.
      What do you think, how much lies about Stalin will live if the country under his leadership won the most terrible war in the history of mankind, developed at an unprecedented pace, in its development surpassed all competitors except one because of devastation and war. They built socialism so hated in the West, a state for all people, and not just for elites. Where they cared about people's health, intellectual development, etc. etc.
      An article about Ivan IV was on this site.
      http://topwar.ru/12538-chto-zhe-na-samom-dele-proizoshlo-s-synom-ivana-groznogo.
      html
  37. +4
    22 September 2015 08: 30
    You look at the expression on the face of this senator and everything becomes clear ... One question - how do they get there?
  38. +6
    22 September 2015 08: 41
    Read the biography of the "senator from the Arkhangelsk region" and you will see that this type has the same relation to her as I do to the Vatican. Pay also attention to the fact that he managed to work successfully in "Ilimp Pulp ..", where, by the way, DA Medvedev also worked at one time. Then "Ilim Pulp" successfully sold its business together with the Kotlas Pulp and Paper Mill to the Americans, and the owners Zingarevich and Smushkin, having received their loot, live comfortably. In my opinion, Zingarevich invested in the football club "Reading" (England). So think about whose interests Mr. Dobrynin K. actually represents in the Senate. It is also interesting that Medvedev himself most often presents his period of work in the corporation as a member of the board of directors of a woodworking enterprise in Bratsk. The guys are dark.
  39. +13
    22 September 2015 08: 46
    All liberals and traitors are very afraid of Stalin. The mongrel of the West in the 1990's declared the communist regime in the People’s Republic of Bulgaria (1944-1989) “criminal” with a deliberate law. The Bulgarians do not give a damn about the opinion of traitors and for 25 years they have been bringing flowers and wreaths to Soviet monuments. Now the rulers are considering banning the symbols of communism (hammer and sickle, portraits of Lenin, Stalin, Dzerzhinsky, etc.) at the legislative level. Poor traitors do not understand that they will give them even greater severity.

    9 May 2015 g, Sofia, Monument to the Soviet Army, look to the left, just above the banner “We defeated fascism, we will defeat NATO”
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 10: 44
      Quote: ivanovbg
      Bulgarians do not care about the opinion of traitors and for 25 years
      they hold them in power.
    2. +4
      22 September 2015 17: 56
      Quote: ivanovbg
      All liberals and traitors are very afraid of Stalin.

      it is yes!
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  40. +3
    22 September 2015 08: 47
    The fact that this bureaucrat blurted out is not a problem. The trouble is that such bureaucrats are still running the show. And if so, there will be no order in the country for a very, very long time. And the people cannot do anything about it, because such "dumb people" somehow suit the authorities. It's rotten ...
    1. msm
      msm
      0
      23 September 2015 11: 35
      Nothing wrong with them. This is our new elite, these are our gentlemen ...
  41. +11
    22 September 2015 09: 08
    Night, going to a country house. There is heavy rain and wind. On the side of the headlights, four children are snatched away: two girls 12-13 years old, a boy 5 years old and another child in the arms of one of the girls. I have an overload, 5 passengers and a dog. To go another 7 km, but I think I'll get there - I'll come back, anyway, no one will take the children, because there are definitely not so many child seats, because the taxi is only under the patent, and so on. Food and "passionately love" my parliamentarians, senators and all the camarilla for "wise laws". After all, it is their efforts that make us non-humans. Their greed and greed turn us into criminals even in such simple things as helping a neighbor in need. But, thank God, there are still people with a capital letter, when I returned, I did not find these children, so someone gave a ride. The time is ripe for an audit in the government, there are too many claims to it.
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 13: 53
      Quote: Begemot
      Four children are grabbing the headlights on the side of the road: two girls aged 12–13, a boy of about 5 and another child in the arms of one of the girls.

      What kind of horrors, where are their parents ?!
      That is the most important question!
      And senators in this case have nothing to do with it!
      1. +2
        22 September 2015 14: 58
        In rural areas, this picture does not surprise, we went to my grandmother or friends, played a bit, did not notice how the weather turned bad. Parents without transport, sitting at home or at work. Here senators have nothing to do with it, but for signing the laws, they should be asked in full.
  42. 0
    22 September 2015 09: 11
    Pin DOS, trembling at the mention of Stalin, paves the way in the camp of the liberals, it is necessary to serve somewhere.
  43. +2
    22 September 2015 09: 18
    The thief and the hat is on fire! .... Ectremism, only a vague pretext ..... The real reason is the fear of the return (attraction) of responsibility for their affairs.
  44. +2
    22 September 2015 09: 22
    Member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.

    or maybe we should check it for the corruption component ....
  45. dmb
    +9
    22 September 2015 09: 51
    Well, why the kid was attacked. Well, yes, he is illiterate, but there are practically no others. There are traders, (and in the overwhelming majority), there are athletes, artists, there are a lot of clowns, and with legislators, there are many. Actually, illiteracy is a distinctive feature of all branches of government. For example, the other day the "Minister of Culture" called Dovlatov, who was born in 1941, mentioned in the article, "an outstanding writer of the XNUMXth century." Well, God bless him. The boy-legislator had forgotten a little, or rather simply did not know that they would rehabilitate those who were convicted. However, not only he, but also the Guarantor of the Constitution does not know either. Another thing is interesting why critics of Stalinism from among the liberal public stupidly repeat fictitious figures that are so easy to refute. After all, Svanidze and Pivovarov cannot be called fools. Scoundrels are undeniable, but not fools.
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 13: 55
      Quote: dmb
      Illiteracy itself is a hallmark of all branches of government.

      Don’t worry, those commissions that are really drafting bills really know a lot about these bills.
      1. dmb
        +2
        22 September 2015 14: 56
        Yes, you have to worry. Actually developed projects are even worse than utter stupidity, uttered by the authorities, for they are aimed solely at increasing the welfare of the authorities themselves, and not at all on the interests of the majority.
        1. +1
          22 September 2015 15: 31
          That's it to the point, subscribe.
        2. 0
          22 September 2015 15: 31
          That's it to the point, subscribe.
        3. 0
          22 September 2015 15: 36
          Quote: dmb
          for they are aimed solely at increasing the welfare of the government itself

          This is about what such laws?
          About the Criminal Code? Or maybe about the CAO?
          Please study our legislation properly, there are no special laws for the rich, rather there are a sufficient number of benefits for the poor.
          Well, the fact that out of 2 graduates of the same class, one is rich and the other is poor, is again not the senators to blame.
          1. dmb
            +2
            22 September 2015 16: 27
            Yah. Well then, can you explain the liberalization of smuggling or bribery? Amnesty. including tax, return stolen from offshore is it all for the poor? And this, by the way, is the legislative sphere of Kolya. You recommend studying legislation, but it would not be a sin for you to know that federal law cannot be adopted without senators. You will be amazed, but even judicial decisions that have entered into force and those are actually the law. So study. before advising.
  46. +6
    22 September 2015 09: 53
    But it would be necessary just the opposite law. Punishment for denying the great past of the state. To defeat the entire European Union in the collection, you know that is another problem. Yes, and it is necessary to officially say that the victory in 1945 is not just over Germany, but over Europe, led by Germany. And the denial of the role of the leader of the USSR Stalin I.V. in the Great Victory and the creation of a great state of workers and peasants, constitutes a crime against the State with all the ensuing criminal consequences.
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 08: 38
      I agree with the comment. Do not forget Our History.
      PS A question for the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of birth are you?
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 16: 22
        PS A question for the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of birth are you?
        PPS Question to the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of degeneration?
    2. -3
      23 September 2015 13: 59
      Great past? why was this great past so carefully hidden? The USSR is the only country where the history of the Second World War has not been published. Six-volume book of 1961 filkin letter, should be 100-120 volumes, even now many do not know about land lease. Etc.
      1. 0
        24 September 2015 02: 06
        Comrade Shishkin, learn the materiel!
      2. 0
        24 September 2015 16: 24
        With regards to Lend-Lease. In the USSR, books were written about this, and films were shot, "Requiem for the PQ-17 caravan", for example. And the complete history of the war ... "The war ends when its last soldier is buried," and how many of them have not yet been found and nameless. .. My great-grandfather, for example, Red Army soldier Konstantin Seliverstovich Stifatov And how many volumes, 6 or 100, it is important what is in them.
  47. +7
    22 September 2015 09: 53
    A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity

  48. +4
    22 September 2015 09: 55
    read the book by G.A. Sidorov "The Secret Project of the Leader or Neo-Stalinism" and you will understand why some "personalities" hate Stalin so much
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 12: 32
      And most importantly, who in the majority hates it? And they do everything to destroy it. The same gop company.
      WHAT ARE THE JEWS FOR HIS STALIN HIS FOR THEIR MASS?
      http://blagin-anton.livejournal.com/733040.html
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 16: 19
        Also read LJ Anton Blagin.
    2. 0
      23 September 2015 23: 42
      you do not read fiction, but read the documents of those times and maybe you will understand something, all the industrial leaps of Russia, under Peter 1 under Stalin, were made on the blood of ordinary people, then stagnation, then catch up with Europe-America and maybe something you’ll understand, well, that this didn’t affect your great-grandfathers
  49. +7
    22 September 2015 09: 56
    Only United Russia needs to be praised and blessed, because it is the "honor and conscience" of modern Russia.
  50. 0
    22 September 2015 09: 57
    Yes, just Chuvachka paid for you. It seems to be not from the main persons, but the request has a place to be. I would, in the place of his partisans, take a closer look at him. What he eats, where to go for a vacation, where his funds are allocated. Maybe this comrade is no longer a comrade to us at all. Here is what the real time to do now is to purge the party ranks. For such active-passive people will be picked up by 20 and they will throw such nonsense, slowing down the consideration of more important issues.
  51. +2
    22 September 2015 09: 57
    3.14dor fulfills the order of the US State Department. High treason is on the face. To the multi-colored wall.
  52. 0
    22 September 2015 09: 58
    Stalin: the activities of members of the Federation Council are equated to...
  53. 0
    22 September 2015 10: 06
    Which “smart” person nominated this “advanced” moral brat as deputy “chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Constitutional Legislation and State Building”?
  54. +3
    22 September 2015 10: 09
    Where all this trash comes from in the Fed Council and above, in the end, it’s time, in connection with the complicated situation at the external and internal political level, to connect a filter unit from the FSB and send these cheerful guys on an erotic journey on foot. Now is the time to deal with the fifth column everywhere. That’s probably why they remembered Joseph Vissarionovich, they smell nits....
    1. msm
      msm
      +1
      23 September 2015 11: 40
      Where is all this trash coming from?
      From everywhere. To money, to power...
  55. +1
    22 September 2015 10: 15
    Or maybe this member...of the Federation Council has moved on in his mind?

    Well, there... got carried away with "stress relief" after an unbearably hard job in the government?

    Yeah... How do we sometimes “relieve stress”? Alcohol - only in the “easy” case.

    And, it could have been “loaded” with something “heavy”. Here's a chicken cerebellum, and I couldn't stand it...

    This member...of the Federation Council needs to be thoroughly checked. Regarding health and financial discipline. Including - under hypnosis, and - on a lie detector.

    I believe that the state budget may suddenly increase in considerable amounts, which could “stick to the hands” of this deranged member... of the Federation Council.

    After which, quite possibly, he himself candidly admits his diagnosis, saying, yes, he’s a kleptomaniac, sometimes I don’t know what I’m doing...
  56. +4
    22 September 2015 10: 18
    Under Stalin, they would not be sitting in their offices in expensive mahogany chairs, but in the camps they know this. The very thought of Stalin does not allow them to sleep peacefully
  57. +2
    22 September 2015 10: 18
    Ugly and deliberate approach. Stalinism, like Leninism, is only a personified part of the general communist system. It is impossible to pull out and tear away from the general structure of any ruling state-political system, just one of the figures, without affecting its entire target component.
  58. +2
    22 September 2015 10: 22
    A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity
    And who are these members themselves? Yes, they are just dust on the boots of a great and formidable leader!!! What streams of mud!!! All sorts of members there are trying to denigrate and gloss over the main thing - the essence of Stalin's reforms and transformations!!! In the period from the 20s to the 50s, the USSR made a fantastic economic leap from a destroyed, barefoot and hungry country to an industrial power!!! And this breakthrough is the merit of the leader, no matter what!!! And this was not even prevented by a terrible war and two major famines!!!
    To put it simply, in the early 20s the question was stark: either the country survives and develops, or falls apart and disappears... Stalin understood this very well and voiced it more than once at various congresses... It was necessary to unite the country and work for everyone - those who are not understood or did not want to understand, they flew out of the system and worked for the country in another system (camp) ...

    And regarding the repressions - also sorry - it was not Stalin who personally shot, it was not Stalin who personally wrote denunciations, it was not Stalin who personally spied... Why don’t they name the names of those who did this? Maybe not only the leader is to blame for the repressions, but also the society itself of that time? The same Khrushchev and many of the leader’s entourage not only have blood on their hands, but they all swim in it - but for some reason they are not condemned as much as Stalin...
    By the way, the same West has always (unlike home-grown democrats who point blank do not see the obvious) has always considered Stalin to be the main Soviet leader of the 20th century, the builder of the USSR, and has always associated an alliance with the leader!!! And the Anglo-Saxons understand, unlike many locals (who have been fooled), who and what for what!!!
  59. 0
    22 September 2015 10: 28
    Minusator! Show up and explain what’s wrong in my comment and in the comments of other Comrades. Oops... Dobrynin himself?
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 14: 10
      No wonder he’ll show up. And even more so, he’ll explain something. There is a category here that secretly likes to do shit.
      1. 0
        22 September 2015 14: 30
        However, it’s a shame to write openly wassat And the minus on the sly...it’s somehow not so scary. I took it upon myself, instead of these “minuses”, to give “pluses” to those whom they marked as “minuses”, based on the fact that the minuses in such a topic are bad people they don't put it.
  60. +3
    22 September 2015 10: 28
    Stalinism is the fabrication of idiots who do not know history and are direct enemies of the country. Senators who propose this (what a face he has. Three generations of consanguineous marriages?) should be driven away.
  61. +2
    22 September 2015 10: 30
    We need to remember and erect monuments to be such a reminder.....
    And cancel the moratorium COMPLETELY! With correction of the Criminal Code in the right direction.
  62. -1
    22 September 2015 10: 37
    So, let's include in this list the rehabilitation of tsarism, the justification and elevation of the fratricidal princes, the redistribution of (mostly) ancient Rus' by sword and fire and the introduction into it of that alien that led to the current troubles?
    Let's not be helpful mongrels, but at least watchdogs who have a voice! Purebred males do not count. After some time, they acquire the habits of the most seedy mongrels. Probably from satiety.
  63. +3
    22 September 2015 10: 45
    I propose to equate this “member” of the Federation Council with enemies of the people. Who agrees?
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 11: 06
      Quote: sinukvl
      I propose to equate this “member” of the Federation Council with enemies of the people

      He’s already an enemy, and it looks like he’s also a homosexual.
    2. 0
      23 September 2015 21: 05
      I think that under Stalin many people were declared enemies of the people, you can evaluate his (the people’s) achievements, but nothing can wash away the blood from him, his great-grandfather was repressed - the stove maker was shot, his second great-grandfather served five years as a private, his brother died in a camp under unknown circumstances circumstances - baker, hello hot Stalinists, you were just not eating, writing comments, and sleeping after work without your hind legs
  64. +1
    22 September 2015 10: 46
    Quote: BoBkaTyumen
    Uncle has eaten too much dill, the glory of the Lyashkovites and the piglets gives him no peace?? Send him after Manya Gaidar - let him promote “ideas” there.



    Yes, it wouldn’t hurt to send many of our talkers somewhere. They've already screwed up with their legislation...
  65. +1
    22 September 2015 10: 48
    If you look at it, it seems like a person is just like a person.. And if you read it, well.. how can I put it more accurately.. - it’s not quite right or what..?? “They are terribly far from the people..” - remember..? It's about him. There is no need to force laws out of yourself. It is necessary to control the execution of existing ones. And so we drown in paper. For every sneeze or question, you can’t come up with a law. But to achieve the execution of laws on the spot, in the region from which you are a SENATOR - that would be a good thing. The Sakhalin thief.., now in Komi.. - and where this “lawmaker” is from - is everything all right..?
  66. +2
    22 September 2015 10: 56
    There is not enough Stalin for these fighters against Stalinism!

    In Russia there are thieves, there are looters, there are swindlers, there are state liars, there are simply stupid people in power, there are a lot of evil spirits, for the eradication of which Stalin’s management methods would be very useful.

    Now the fighters against Stalinism are moving again, which means they want to leave our Motherland in the hands of swindlers and thieves, so that it will be like under grandfather.
  67. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 07
    Stalin kept his managers at bay, since the harm to the state from the incompetence or criminal “activity” of one nomenklatura employee could be colossal, while it was usually impossible to remove it using “democratic” methods. The first thing the “nomenklatura” did was to prohibit the “bodies” from exercising political supervision over their hectic “activities.” Stagnation began, which led to rebirth. The arrest of a governor or mayor, the deprivation of the mandate of a member of parliament or his assistant is, of course, pure “Stalinism.”
    1. 0
      22 September 2015 19: 45
      Quote: iouris
      It is, as a rule, impossible to remove it using “democratic” methods. .

      How is that "democratic" methods - as with Abraham Lincoln, John Kennedy or our example with Lavrentiy Beria, etc. whether?
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 12: 17
        “Democracy” presupposes voting and adherence to complex formal procedures. Besides, who votes?
        "Democracy" is put in quotation marks. Of course, a democratic regime can have different forms: from ochlocracy (the power of the crowd) to dictatorship (the power of a very narrow group or even one politician).
        Examples of presidential assassinations show that the highest officials of a state (even such as the United States) are hired managers. At turning points in history, owners sometimes have to get rid of them in such radical but quick ways.
  68. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 10
    Traitor, or stupid. There's no other way to say it...
  69. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 20
    I’m only interested in one question: how people like Konstantin Dobrynin become senators. Well, no one really has eyes? After all, it’s clear to see what a man he is and he’s a piece of shit on a horse. fool
    1. 0
      23 September 2015 21: 11
      And how Zuckerberg became the youngest and one of the richest billionaires in the world, and how Senya Yaytsenyukh became the prime minister of ruins, he’s been crap for a year and a half, he ruined the country, but some force unknown to us keeps him in the prime minister’s chair, we can list examples for a long time and tediously.” outstanding successes" of the "golden boys" of the God-forsaken nation.
  70. +3
    22 September 2015 11: 25
    This dick needs to be razed to the ground. And the name is Stalin. the collector of Russian lands, who defended the country in the most difficult war and devastation, will gain popularity.
    Small dirty tricks like this will be crushed by Stalin's locomotive on the rails.
  71. LMaksim
    +2
    22 September 2015 11: 26
    I have long been proposing to introduce qualifying exams for officials and people’s representatives. Among the obligatory ones are an IQ test, exams on knowledge of the Constitution of the Russian Federation and history. Also apply the norms of labor legislation of the Russian Federation to people's representatives and officials. So that we don’t have State Duma meetings with 50% of deputies. Have you been away from work for more than 2 hours? Dismissal under an article with entry into the work book. Are you on a business trip? As for everyone's daily allowance and off we go. And no apartments when changing jobs. We don’t give apartments to mere mortals! Then they will work and not talk nonsense.
  72. +1
    22 September 2015 11: 37
    Well, who lets such men (..) into power?
    There are not even literary words to describe such initiators....
    Drag in the hunt!
  73. +2
    22 September 2015 11: 42
    We need him in Gaiser’s cell so he doesn’t get bored. There will be something for the senator and governor to chat about over a cup of prison gruel.
  74. 0
    22 September 2015 11: 56
    Did the senator sing at the same time? Did he dance?
    Did you promise anything good?
    He probably turned himself inside out to prolong his stay at the feeding trough.
  75. +2
    22 September 2015 12: 33
    This will be tantamount to the rehabilitation of Nazism. It was under the leadership of Stalin that we won the Second World War. Stalin imprisoned the plunderers of state property and United Russia released them. I think this is enough to understand who Stalin is
  76. +2
    22 September 2015 12: 37
    Are there any Arkhangelsk residents here? Hang a spoon with a hole on his fence!
  77. 0
    22 September 2015 13: 10
    Further proof that enemies of the people and the country are in the upper echelons of power. What can we expect after “this” in the domestic and foreign policy of the “leadership”.
  78. +1
    22 September 2015 13: 29
    Conversation about nothing. Once again you are convinced of what the upper house of parliament is and who it consists of.
    To talk about “rehabilitation”, Stalinism must first be condemned! And the former party nomenklatura and Komsomol members not only lacked the courage to do this, but there was no expediency in it. Why pull the tiger's tail? All sorts of “closed reports”, resolutions of parties that no longer exist, are not court decisions that can be canceled and someone can be “rehabilitated” based on them. And since there is no corpus delicti of a specific person or group of persons, then there cannot be a contrary law and action. Let him sit and think whether I.V. Stalin will come to him like a stone guest, or “carry away.”
  79. +5
    22 September 2015 13: 51
    And what can we compare the activities of Khrushchev and his comrades, who essentially carried out a coup d’etat?
    Condemnation of so-called “Stalinism” is a condemnation of the feat of the Soviet People, who won a bloody war, created a nuclear missile shield, launched the first satellite and the first man into space.
    What did this senator do, besides wiping his pants, to put forward such shameful initiatives? M that seems to me. that all these “judgmental” people are afraid of responsibility for any deeds.
  80. +3
    22 September 2015 14: 28
    I read the text and get to the photo, and I begin to scold him with bad words, including the homosexual. I let my eyes go further to the text and what I see:

    Konstantin Dobrynin called on “various public groups” to discuss the issue of the rights of representatives of the Russian LGBT community and the possibility of pederasts (lesbians) to create married couples.

    There are no words
  81. +6
    22 September 2015 14: 33
    I am not a fan of Stalin.
    But I'm tired of the squabbling about this.
    Personally, I am for the city of Stalingrad, the city of the Battle of Stalingrad, to be on the map of Russia. Renaming this heroic city is a historical injustice - no city - its great feat will be forgotten. I want any citizen of the world who opens the map to be able to find Stalingrad, the city that launched the fascists’ machinations to defeat; it should exist, its existence should always remind of the great victory over fascism.
    When assessing that period, Sergei Dovlatov’s question was very accurately formulated: “And yet I want to ask who wrote four million denunciations?”
    because for the suffering that befell our citizens of that period, those and only those who wrote these denunciations are to blame - that’s who should be blamed.
    Specific people are to blame for all the torment and suffering, all the injustice that has happened, who, out of personal ambition, envy, greed, and quarrelsomeness, did unjust things.
    I just want to remind you that as a result of the revolution, strong peasant farms, which formed the backbone of the country, suffered; they were dispossessed not because they were exploiters - they worked for themselves - there were simply many who liked to get rich at the expense of others. This same category of citizens wrote denunciations to Stalin's times, this same category appropriated all the country's wealth in the 90s, and this same category today blames for everything those people who served the country while they and their predecessors slandered, robbed, persecuted, carried out unjust trials on their acquaintances, friends, neighbors.
    1. +2
      22 September 2015 18: 05
      Olympiad
      For a country of 150 million over a period of 30 years, 4 million denunciations (if this is not a lie) is not a lot.

      Read the story justifying the government's actions. There, following common sense, they reveal all the lies of the liberal version.
      1. +1
        22 September 2015 19: 16
        The figure 4 million is part of Dovlatov’s quote.
        But there really was a wave of repression and it affected all corners of the country, and for every tragedy there were those who wrote denunciations, there were those who demanded to sign these slander, and there were those who signed, knowing and understanding that the person would be killed in vain.
        I guess I couldn’t accurately express my thought, but when serious transformations take place in a country, there are always those who seek to gain benefits on the sly.
        Each historical era gives birth to its heroes who create history and whose exploits are known to generations.
        But even changes for the better are accompanied by meanness, which is kept silent, which is generally normal.
        But at the moment, society is faced with the fact that our history is being reshaped and distorted, and this is done by those who did these dirty deeds during a difficult period; in order to hide their meanness, they are trying to denigrate those to whom the country owes its exploits and victories. The sins of some are being pulled out. and spread themselves on others, and this is done by those who quietly receive their benefits.
        1. 0
          23 September 2015 21: 45
          The 4 million probably included 1 million collaborators who collaborated with the Nazis during the War, dozens and maybe thousands of Basmachi who ruled Central Asia until the end of the thirties, millions never accepted Soviet power, although the people of the country adopted a course towards socialism , you think sabotage, sabotage is a fairy tale. The people, after throwing off the king, the aristocracy, and the old order, quickly settled into a new stall. After the revelry of the NEP, after sexual emancipation, or rather the revelry that the Trotskyists staged. Trotskyists and other old Bolsheviks, do you think there were a handful of them? They sold the country for concessions for many, many years on such a scale that the 90s are just baby talk. And they started shooting according to the laws of revolutionary times from the 17th and did not stop in the 37th. But it was precisely in 37 that mass repressions began to fade away. Apparently the apparatus of governing the country was cleaned out and Comrade Stalin took full power. That is why they are so fond of mentioning the XNUMXth in the context of repressions, because this is the year they lost power.
          It will also be interesting to know - Myamlin Kirill “ISRAEL IS THE EXECUTIONER OF UKRAINE” - http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/istoriya_rossii/izrail_palach_ukrainy/
          Apparently their descendants are the main liberals who condemn the cult of personality.
    2. -1
      22 September 2015 21: 47
      Oh, how right! I'd like to give it ten pluses! To which my dad was a Stalinist, and he said: “One thing I don’t understand is why he did this to the peasantry?” But I’ll say one more thing. Yes, he did not personally imprison and shoot, he did not force denunciations to be written. But he allowed such laws. And people are the same at all times. Now start jailing people based on denunciations, and even if the informer gets even a small benefit from this, the same thing will happen again in the country. hi(for olympiada15)
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  82. 0
    22 September 2015 15: 08
    I would strangle this animal, Konstantin Dobrynin, with great pleasure with my bare hands, like a booger. Every louse will still stink.
    Whoever is from Arkhangelsk - close the nit's filthy mouth.
    If the photo shows the indicated creature, then everything is clear - the face bears the stamp of complete downism and a complete absence of at least some intelligence.
    How do such degenerates and dregs of society rise to power?!! (The question is rhetorical, I know the answer: under the current system, that’s all that comes up!).
  83. 0
    22 September 2015 15: 12
    As the comrade wrote above that Dobrynin is similar to Semenchenko NO he is a copy of Avakov!!!!! Take a closer look
  84. +1
    22 September 2015 15: 14
    As the comrade wrote above that Dobrynin is similar to Semenchenko NO he is a copy of Avakov!!!!! Take a closer look
  85. +4
    22 September 2015 15: 27
    “It is reliably known that from 1921 to 1953 more than 4 million people were convicted of “counter-revolutionary crimes” ... - this is how only a would-be senator can speak, who simply does not know the history of his own country. It is well known that the rise of Stalin in the leadership of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) began (precisely STARTED!) in 1929, after which there was a continuous struggle between the Stalinists and the Trotskyists within the party. It’s a no-brainer that in a year or two or three, the followers of Trotsky, as well as the followers of Zinoviev/Bukharin/Kamenev and other “kosher” leaders, have not gone away. And the brutal repressions, the genocide of Russian peasant Russia, they began not in the 30s, but in the 20s. The same Solovki is a purely Trotskyist “pilot project”. And to attach Joseph Dzhugashvili here, hanging all the dogs on him, is a typical distortion. The physiognomy of this “good” senator does not inspire confidence either. In 1939, according to the NKVD personnel selection manual, such a person would definitely have been classified as a degenerate “according to Klimov.” Dear Khrushcha, have you gone? - only now it’s a pathetic farce, and not the blatant lies of “Bloody Nikita”. It will not work. Once again they are poking us in the face with this tattered "REPRESSION" banner. as they say, “the rubbish is collected here not to sweep it out of the hut, but to throw it in the owner’s face.” Even Benya Eltsin’s comrades did not think of such a thing, equating the historical memory of Stalin with extremism and Nazism. They simply laughed quietly and waited for the communists to die out. It seems to me that Stalin’s toast “to the health of the Russian people” does not give many people peace, although more than half a century has passed. May Comrade Lavrentiy visit this senator! At least in a dream...
    1. +1
      22 September 2015 20: 26
      Quote: andrew42
      The same Solovki is a purely Trotskyist “pilot project”. And to attach Joseph Dzhugashvili here, hanging all the dogs on him, is a typical distortion.

      Solovkihow the death camp was originally is organized exactly soldiers of the British Empire during the period of their intervention in Russia and the occupation of Arkhangelsk, "purely Trotskyist "pilot project""It became later, after the withdrawal of the British occupation forces from Russia. The Trotskyists, as mercenaries of the British Empire as well, simply took advantage of the rich experience of English soldiers since the time of the “Anglo-Boer War” of the 19th century.
      1. 0
        23 September 2015 11: 08
        I don’t remember about the British concentration camp on Solovki, although I visited those places not so long ago, including Mount Sekirnaya, from where people stuffed into iron barrels were thrown out in the 20s. Here is the island of Mudyug, where the interventionists simply threw people into earthen pits to slowly die - I know this. Space?
  86. +2
    22 September 2015 15: 42
    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    And for some reason it seems to me that it is precisely Stalinism that our country lacks ...

    That is why he is afraid of phenomena like this, because... They will be the first to fall under the process of Stalinization, as traitors and saboteurs of the RUSSIAN STATE! Hence the horror and fear!
  87. +1
    22 September 2015 16: 09
    Isn't he himself an extremist?
  88. MrK
    +4
    22 September 2015 16: 25
    Who was shot under Stalin
    1. 0
      22 September 2015 18: 42
      Pass! It’s a pity I can’t give 2 “+”!
  89. oof
    0
    22 September 2015 16: 48
    Who let this ghoul into the Federation Council? Which m---s voted for him?
    1. -1
      22 September 2015 21: 11
      Deputies of the local legislative assembly nominate, and the guarantor approves them. It’s simple.
  90. -1
    22 September 2015 17: 15
    Quote: 97110
    Quote: Down House
    And you read Solzhenitsin’s “works” more carefully, what he writes about himself

    And confirm your opinion? That is, you confirm that AIS is a liar and a traitor. Why did you choose such a mentoring tone addressed to me to confirm my thoughts? You need to be gentler with people. And look at the questions more broadly.

    I read the story of this archipelago... he was a bastard... "a sledgehammer to the back".... I shit his liberal
  91. -1
    22 September 2015 17: 20
    The liberals have woken up - it's all populism!
  92. +1
    22 September 2015 18: 23
    I propose the entire Duma to harvest the harvest. There are still countless potatoes in the field. Like in the good old days. A couple of tons per brother per shift, I think all the nonsense will disappear. And the bread will seem sweeter.
  93. 0
    22 September 2015 19: 17
    How are these crazy people getting fed up with promoting themselves on history...
  94. +3
    22 September 2015 19: 34
    I'll be back!
  95. +1
    22 September 2015 19: 38
    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
    The deputy probably drank for five years and missed new trends in politics. Throw him in the neck!

    Such liberals need a cup of hot represso bully
  96. +3
    22 September 2015 19: 59
    There are so many degenerates, damn it, there are no words, just curse words.
  97. +1
    22 September 2015 20: 02
    The Jews will stop inciting passions; they were not the only ones who suffered during that difficult time for the entire country. And Stalin also sat in every regional committee and district committee troika? Then there were denunciations, and outright slander from friend to friend, and animal fear of any clerk. Life went on as usual. But the bulk of the poorest strata of the people lived and lived. Now, which is better? I mean, the doctor performed an unsuccessful operation and went and shot him. And then, for some reason, drunk drivers are drawn to traffic stops like a magnet. And everything is on the drum. Say the right word, but if it’s wrong, you’ll get hit on the head with a bat. Everything is so simple and ordinary. The news has turned into reports of incidents around the country, well, straight, "Duty Unit" on every channel and 24 hours a day.
  98. 0
    22 September 2015 21: 27
    Quote: A-Sim
    To your son, or to your grandson, what do you say yourself if you ask? Will you send it to the "academicians"? Do you have your own opinion? Where did it come from?


    You take the discussion to another level. The conversation was about a specific member of the Federation Council and his actions. What does this have to do with the upbringing of my descendants?

    But I will answer. I am raising my son myself. I’m telling you something myself. I am retelling something from the words of my father, grandfather or great-grandfather. I provide him with some sources, and some he looks for himself. I don't think you'll put my sources of knowledge to the test?

    Sir, regarding my opinion, you can read it in the comments on this site. If you are interested in a more specific topic, I am always ready to discuss it.
  99. +2
    22 September 2015 21: 29
    Dmitry Puchkov (goblin) spoke very well about this, you just couldn’t say it better.

    Soon it will be almost a hundred years since the united forces of the West have been fighting and fighting, but still cannot recognize communism as criminal. And then a member of the Federation Council, Konstantin Dobrynin, rushes to their aid - with a ready-made paper about the “crimes of the Stalinist totalitarian regime.” Calm down, gentlemen - everything is under control, we will do everything ourselves!

    Please note that we are no longer talking about any “court of history”, which citizen Svanidze successfully leaked on TV not so long ago. We are talking right away about the fact that the communist period in the history of Russia - after all, this is obvious to any intelligent, handshake person - was criminal. Criminal, period. What does this mean for Russian citizens? The impossibility of mentioning the Supreme Commander-in-Chief on Victory Day and the shameful draping of Lenin's mausoleum on holidays? This goes without saying, but these are minor things. The main thing is different.

    The main thing is this. As soon as, through the efforts of such Dobrynins, the era of communist rule is declared criminal, the results of communist rule will immediately be recognized as criminal. First of all, the victory of our communists over Hitler's Nazism will be declared criminal. This means that the results of World War II will be revised. Because our ancestors achieved everything through criminal means. This means that the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation will be reviewed, during which the “territorial claims” of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland, and Japan will be satisfied. And everyone else who wishes to declare such - for example, Kuban will go to Ukraine. And this is not counting the various Germans, Romanians and Poles, from whom everything was also taken away - of course, in an unjust, criminal way.

    When our territories are dealt with fairly and Russia is reduced to the size of the Moscow Principality, they will take care of the citizens who suffered from the “Stalinist totalitarian regime.” They need to be helped financially. First of all, of course, to the Banderaites. That's who has suffered enough from Stalinism! Following Bandera's followers, we must help the Baltic "forest brothers" and the Asian Basmachi - all the troubles of the accomplices of Hitler's Nazism are strictly due to the "totalitarian regime." All Nazi collaborators will have to pay multi-million dollar compensation. It is clear that ordinary policemen should be paid less, but those who fought in the SS divisions should be paid as they should, from the heart. After all, they did a good deed, fought against the “Stalinist totalitarian regime”, saved humanity from the “red plague”. And, of course, this is all only after all the monuments to these “liberators”, but in fact to executioners and criminals, have been demolished throughout Europe and Russia.

    And you ask: where to get the money to pay SS veterans and their relatives up to the seventh generation? Yes, we have plenty of oil and gas. All this is managed, as everyone knows for certain at the instigation of Lyokha Navalny, strictly by “swindlers and thieves.” The international forces of Good will remove swindlers and thieves, these heirs of the criminal communist regime, from power and resource management - and immediately, of course, before a tribunal, with the confiscation of all personal savings. And instead they will send smart Western managers who will organize production and allocate the money where necessary.

    What are we? And we will repent.
    Pay and repent.
  100. -2
    22 September 2015 21: 56
    Holy crap, how did the Country last for so many centuries before the communists?!