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A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity

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Sometimes you catch yourself thinking that a considerable number of Russian lawmakers have too much free time, which they don’t want to spend on developing constructive and effective legislative measures, but willingly spend on self-promotion or even more dubious initiatives. So, the reason for the next thought about the presence of a lot of free time from certain legislators of the two chambers of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, prompted the publication of the information agency TASS, which reported on the initiative of a member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.




The initiative is that in Russia attempts to "rehabilitate Stalinism" should be equated to "extremism" with all the consequences for the "rehabilitators" in criminal terms. In fact, the Dobrynin initiative sends all those who “rehabilitate Stalinism” either to Article 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “Incitement of hatred or enmity, as well as humiliation of human dignity” (maximum punishment is imprisonment for up to 5 years) “Rehabilitation of Nazism” (maximum punishment - imprisonment for up to 354.1 years).

TASS reports that the bill proposed by Senator Konstantin Dobrynin, who is the deputy chairman of the Federation Council’s committee on constitutional legislation and state construction, states that any materials in which “Stalinism” will be rehabilitated should be recognized as extremist materials, as well as materials “rehabilitating persons involved in the crimes of the Stalinist regime. "

A separate line is this:
the prohibition (...) of assigning names (apparently, “Stalinist” - author's note) to new geographical objects.


At the same time, there is a rather vague wording in the draft law that cannot be considered “the rehabilitation of Stalinism”:
(...) denial of the accusation of the political leadership of the Soviet state in carrying out the policy of genocide, committing crimes against humanity, as well as in carrying out any other actions that have not been subject to official state condemnation, is not a denial of the crimes of the Stalinist totalitarian regime and is protected by constitutional norms of freedom of speech and freedom of expression.

The author of the bill:
It is reliably known that from 1921 to 1953 more than 4 million people were convicted of "counter-revolutionary crimes", including nearly 800 thousand sentenced to death. It becomes obvious that the Stalinist repressions were unprecedented in scale and affected the entire Soviet society as a whole. But in recent years, idealized, one-sided, not appropriate, has been increasingly promoted among the population historical reality is the image of the Stalin era, which "causes enormous damage to the Russian state and society.


Yes, obviously, obviously ... Or just as "obvious" as for certain individuals, "Stalin's crime in terms of unwillingness to evacuate people from Leningrad before the blockade is obvious." We remember the Dozhdin poll ... Or it’s just as “obvious” as the fact that Stalin “was ready to go to war first, just Hitler beat him a little”. Or about "one rifle for three" and "General of the Frost" ... Here we recall the famous words of the writer Sergey Dovlatov:

We endlessly criticize Comrade Stalin, and, of course, for the cause. And yet I want to ask - who wrote the four million denunciations?


Apparently, for this phrase today Dovlatov could be brought in if the initiative of Dobrynin was suddenly approved ...

For some reason, after this publication on the TASS pages of information about the senator Dobrynin’s initiative, the “bright image” of Lia Akhedzhakova stood up with her systematic calls to “repent!” Apparently, Mr. Senator Medzhidovny is haunted, and therefore he decided to use his legislative potential not to develop documents that would improve the economic system of the country, the social sphere, develop national security, and for its own PR company. After all, frankly, the senatorial corps is no different publicity, and here the senator has such a chance to declare himself, and even to please the ultra-liberal public, and foreign too. Like, ah yes, senator, ah yes he poured these "quilted jackets, colorads, rashistam" ...

So what does the senator suggest? It turns out that if any of the historians, publicists, journalists publish declassified archival documents or based on this will prepare articles that the repression of 30-40-x is, undoubtedly, terrible, but rumors about MILLIONS shot and tortured in the basement of the NKVD too exaggerated by all sorts of Svanidze and other "non-living specialists", then such people, by definition, fall into the number of criminals?

I remember, not so long ago, your humble servant published material on concentration camps in the stateswhere the US authorities drove hundreds of thousands of Japanese during the Second World War - American, by the way, citizens. Then, in the camps, tens of thousands of people died from hunger, cold, and hard everyday work. And the material talked about the fact that the Russian authorities have already admitted the fact of Stalin’s repressions a hundred times, rehabilitated their victims with full restoration of rights, but Washington does not show a desire to go the same way in relation to the repressions of the 40s in the United States. But the US authorities have a new and new desire to put pressure on Russia to identify Stalinism and Nazism in our country. It is noteworthy that not a single senator showed up in Washington, who would call for a trial of denying repressions against Japanese citizens during World War II. It won't even occur to anyone, since in the USA they solved this problem, well, quite simply - archdemocratic - they simply don’t write about it in textbooks ... They say they know less - sleep better ... We also have about repression 30-40 In the USSR, thousands of volumes of the most diverse literature came out (with a peak during the perestroika and post-perestroika period), they write about it, they say, they tell the younger generation, but no one, thank God, forbids citizens themselves to explore data on the real volumes of Stalinist repressions and do findings. It turns out that this material, on the basis of Senator Konstantin Dobrynin’s bill, also seems to fall under the “rehabilitation of Stalinism” - well, a comparison was made and no fewer facts of repression in the USA were pointed out, the authorities of which are clearly far from repentance only, by the way, in relation to the Japanese ...

By the way, why is it proposed to judge only for "denying Stalinist repression." Why not expand this bill by “the crime of denying the repressions of Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great (what are you looking for! - he cut beards to the boyars, - herod ...), Nicholas I (repressed the Decembrists ...), etc. Then it would be possible to send half the country to the bunk, and, as a result, Senator Dobrynin could himself go down in history as the author of a new wave of repression in Russia ...

A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity


By the way, most recently on «Radio Svoboda» there was also material about another “remarkable in all respects” initiative of the same senator. Konstantin Dobrynin called on “different social groups” to discuss the issue of the rights of representatives of the Russian LGBT community and the possibility of homosexuals (lesbians) to create married couples. From the statement of Dobrynin:

I believe that Russia sooner or later will have to solve this problem. The last thing a state should do is turn away and pretend that there is no acute issue, that everything is all right, that the minority is satisfied with everything, that there are no issues in the relationship between the majority and the minority. It is worth thinking about such issues in advance, starting some kind of adequate legal discussions. But we have something completely different: the level of aggression in the relations between the minority and the majority on this issue goes off scale, calm conversation is impossible. Now, it seems to me, that very moment has come when the tone becomes even more important than the content. The calmer we begin to discuss the controversial issues, the more optimal solution can be found. In what form it will be, I am not ready to say now, I do not have an answer to this question - what will be the norm, whether homosexual relations will be legalized in the form of marriage. Marriage is not the only legal form that can govern this relationship.


In general, the senator is concerned about someone's denial of the repressions of 30-40 in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community ... For the denial of the possibility of registering marriages between homosexuals will also be planted? ..

It is noteworthy that the senator began to formulate his concerns vividly in the year of the completion of his powers as a senator. If you believe the help of Sovfed, the powers of Konstantin Dobrynin as a senator from the Arkhangelsk region expire already this month. Hence the activation? ..
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  1. Obolensky
    Obolensky 22 September 2015 06: 32
    +40
    I don’t understand, what for to stir up history? What was, what was. There were always and everywhere excesses on the part of the state. There were always dissatisfied people. Well, then what? Why doesn't this "member" really remember the rest of our history?

    In general, it is time to introduce a criminal article for all these "members" who, instead of doing their direct duties (improving the economic and other situations in the region, country), are doing what they are not supposed to do by definition. Look, we have historical academics, let them deal with history. Too many "members" got divorced and they really seem to have nothing to do!
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 September 2015 06: 51
      +4
      Quote: Obolensky
      I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

      There was a wonderful article: http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
      I highly recommend it to all the gentlemen who decided to play with the distortion of the facts. Well and to the rest - amusing reading matter with unequivocal implication.
      1. Zebus
        Zebus 22 September 2015 10: 15
        0
        Article tin !!!))))))))))))))
      2. Zebus
        Zebus 22 September 2015 10: 15
        0
        Article tin !!!))))))))))))))
    2. venaya
      venaya 22 September 2015 08: 30
      +6
      Quote: Obolensky
      ... what the hell are you telling a story? What was, was.

      "what for history?"- He doesn't stir her up, he just shits it.

      Quote: Obolensky
      There, we have historical academics, even if they are engaged in history.

      Well, here they are, again: "... the master will come, the master will judge ...". Not so simple. There are few academicians, and there is no sense in their work. They are apparently busy with the wrong thing: "... control and accounting ..." without this we "will not see luck in the progress of historical science." What's the point of paying the academy and academics? If there was a result from them, then this is a "senator" and would not be able to blather such a thing, without being ridiculed, and so the work of academicians is obvious. Any outspoken pig is now able to offend a great man, and for this he will get nothing. Directly according to the sentence: "Let's drink so that we have everything, and nothing for it."
      1. Obolensky
        Obolensky 22 September 2015 10: 10
        +2
        Nobody spoke about "master". You misunderstood me. I just think that everyone should mind their own business. A historian - by history, an archaeologist - by archeology, and a member of the Federation Council - by his direct duties.

        We have enough academicians. The fact that there are few works is a fact. Although historical research is a dime a dozen. Starting with the delights of "Norman" history, ending with a "condensed chronology". But the sources will not be enough. And provided that the story is a complete political corrupt girl, who will pay more or who will order from above, then it will be so. Each government has its own story. And yes, I agree that now the insults of great people go unpunished. As long as everyone is doing something other than their own business (in this case, stirring up history and dirtying historical characters) - everything will be so with us.
        1. A-Sim
          A-Sim 22 September 2015 15: 06
          +2
          To your son, or to your grandson, what do you say yourself if you ask? Will you send it to the "academicians"? Do you have your own opinion? Where did it come from?
        2. venaya
          venaya 22 September 2015 18: 01
          -1
          Quote: Obolensky
          ... history - a complete political selling girlwhoever pays more or who orders from above will be so. ...

          It classic brilliant remark, do not add do not diminish.

          Quote: Obolensky
          I just think that everyone should do their own thing. The historian - by history, the archaeologist - by archeology, and the member of the Federation Council - by his direct duties.
          ... I agree that now insults of great people go unpunished. While with us everyone will not be engaged in their own business ...

          "For now, everyone will do not their own business" - here they are exactly "their"business (or rather the business of some gang of their own) and are engaged, instead of in a state position, at the expense of the state (and not any other) to be engaged in state affairs, and not in the business of a third-party gang that has nothing to do with the tasks For example, let us recall the recent fire in the library of the Russian Academy of Sciences, comments are unnecessary.
          About "delights of "Norman" history ... "I will add an unimaginable, unfounded, clearly anti-state lie named"Mongol-Tatar yoke"But these nonsense appeared quite recently (mainly in 1942, not counting Karamzin). Leave all these questions at the mercy of today's academicians, assuming it's their own business, I consider unacceptable negligence of both the whole society and myself
    3. 97110
      97110 22 September 2015 10: 19
      +2
      Quote: Obolensky
      I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

      In kind, why? Alexander Isaevich is an icon. And the President prays for her in public. Finally, pull the Chekist out from under the bed of Novodvorskaya and put an end to it. Big black dot. Like a black maxim. Confuse foreigners and confuse others. And we implement the HPP. Then we will expose the AIS and rehabilitate the IVS. The whole world with the entire Russian civil society just o ... em. And our president will be officially titled "Your Darkness". And then some kind of "excellency." Like a major general. Shame. PS, It's sarcasm like that. And then put the cons again for nothing.
      1. Kunar
        Kunar 23 September 2015 17: 37
        0
        He has already been exposed .....
    4. MrK
      MrK 23 September 2015 15: 36
      0
      Thanks Obolensky. I will add. One not stupid man said: Even if you are an angel there is always someone who does not like the rustle of your wings.
  2. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 22 September 2015 06: 33
    +1
    Well, the senator ignites !!! You can make a film: dumb and dumber! In the leading role, he himself! In the feeding trough for cutting (SF) and the State Duma has not gone far!
    1. larand
      larand 22 September 2015 07: 46
      +7
      Quote: astronom1973n
      Well, the senator ignites !!! You can make a film: dumb and dumber! In the leading role, he himself! In the feeding trough for cutting (SF) and the State Duma has not gone far!


      And these "personalities" decide our destinies !!! Sailor Zheleznyak, you died early.
  3. asiat_61
    asiat_61 22 September 2015 06: 33
    +26
    The logic is interesting, he began with Stalin, he graduated from ami. So he would immediately say that he is blue and defends their rights. Blue should not have any rights, except for one thing: to be silent in a rag, and sniff into two holes.
    1. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 22 September 2015 08: 22
      +3
      .Must not be

      As it should not, it should, or rather should be an ARTICLE IN THE UK
    2. Corsair
      Corsair 22 September 2015 09: 43
      +2
      Quote: asiat_61
      The logic is interesting, he began with Stalin, he graduated from ami. So he would immediately say that he is blue and defends their rights. Blue should not have any rights, except for one thing: to be silent in a rag, and sniff into two holes.

      laughing Duc all right linked, under Stalin for sodomy or would have shot or for 20 years to cut down forests to fool the dope, so I decided to play it safe, otherwise it’s not enough
      1. 97110
        97110 22 September 2015 10: 28
        +2
        Quote: Corsair
        under Stalin, for sodomy, either they would shoot or for 20 years cut down forests to foolishness

        You are like Novodvorskaya. Keep yourself in control. Sanction on 118 (not to lie) article of such horror as
        Quote: Corsair
        shot

        did not provide. If, with special cynicism, a group by prior conspiracy and necessarily by assignment defensive or sigurans, they could be sentenced to execution. Then, after understanding, replace with 3 years of general regime.
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 22 September 2015 06: 35
    +14
    In general, the senator is preoccupied with someone's denial of the repressions of the 30-40s in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community.

    And where is he on salary? what
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 22 September 2015 06: 58
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In general, the senator is preoccupied with someone's denial of the repressions of the 30-40s in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community.

      And where is he on salary? what

      According to article 27 of the law "On the status of a member of the Federation Council and the status of a deputy of the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation", all members of the Federation Council are paid a monthly monetary remuneration "in the amount established for the federal minister." The size of the monthly monetary remuneration is approved by a presidential decree. Earlier, Sergei Mironov, who from 2001 to 2011 was the chairman of the Federation Council, said that the parliamentarians have "a fixed salary" and "no bonuses and charges" (quoted by the Vesti.ru portal).

      How can he "poor" not take care of the ped. kakh. Maybe they will add it.
  5. vovanpain
    vovanpain 22 September 2015 06: 36
    +14
    This is a terrible dream of this deputy, if Stalin had returned, the deputies would have brought at least some benefit from logging.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 September 2015 06: 36
    +19
    “Rehabilitation of Stalinism” should be equated with “extremism”

    But it seems to me that it is time to think about how such a "ghoul" takes such a position. Something recently too often "guardians" for "justice" began to creep out. I am sure if you dig deeper, then this K. Dobrynin has so many skeletons in the closet that he himself will not be glad that he raised this topic.
    1. TVM - 75
      TVM - 75 22 September 2015 07: 05
      +6
      Why in the closet? Look at the portrait! Typical stupid and arrogant "brother"! They paid and put their own in power. What is there to talk about. The Cossack decided to portray the work.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 22 September 2015 08: 31
        +14
        Quote: TVM - 75
        Look at the portrait! Typical stupid and arrogant "brother"!

        similar to semchenko, very similar ...
        1. anip
          anip 22 September 2015 08: 59
          +2
          Quote: PSih2097
          similar to semchenko, very similar ...

          It is similar in terms of a similar disease: hydrocephalus, oligophrenic or whatever.
        2. bandabas
          bandabas 22 September 2015 09: 26
          +3
          There is such a physiognomy thing. Although currently considered a pseudoscience in psychology, it is quite suitable for this instance and the like.
  7. strelets
    strelets 22 September 2015 06: 39
    +7
    Senators have too much free time. Let them go to the construction of the Kerch bridge. Or give out sandwiches to the homeless. In short, a lot of cases.
  8. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 22 September 2015 06: 40
    +8
    This is the main thing in the article, for understanding, so to speak, what kind of stuffed animal we have in the Senate.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 23 September 2015 12: 13
      0
      Thanks for the information on the "senator".
      I would also like to add from myself that such proposals have no practical benefit and they can be safely called empty talk, which only distracts from the urgent problems of the state.
      Only for this kind of "law-making" proposals can such officials be safely removed from work.
  9. Russia
    Russia 22 September 2015 06: 41
    +5
    I read about this people's deputy - such a feeling of disgust - as in crap. Climbed.
    Why is he still "inviolable". Hands itch to remind him of all sorts of things "Stalinism".
  10. Ogogoshka
    Ogogoshka 22 September 2015 06: 42
    +5
    I would like to know what Senator Dobrynin MADE useful for the homeland? How do these become powerful?
  11. Sasha75
    Sasha75 22 September 2015 06: 43
    +9
    Stalin is not enough not only for our country, but also for many other countries that have forgotten how our tanks took their cities. I watched a doc film about German prisoners of war who had been in captivity until 1955. I’ll tell you right away that the film is not ours, not Russian, and they fed them ice cream about American captivity; But only one out of 400 said that the Russians were bad and spoke very warmly about Stalin, maybe we are saying something to a good person who knew how to make friendly citizens out of enemies like that))).
  12. Aleksander
    Aleksander 22 September 2015 06: 49
    +13
    Senator Konstantin Dobrynin, who is the deputy chairman of the committee of the Federation Council on Constitutional legislation and state building

    What a frank moron-and occupies such a position, involving at least a minimum of legal knowledge.
    First, give a legal definition of the concept of "Stalinism" and legally recognize it as "criminal", then write ...
  13. VadimSt
    VadimSt 22 September 2015 06: 52
    +1
    He was stunned by a sense of his own exclusiveness and the impossibility of finding the application of his "democratic" impulses on another front of social change.
  14. venaya
    venaya 22 September 2015 06: 56
    +5
    Well, when will they still begin to be judged for lying and denying the truth?
    The set of words smoothly passed into the freedom of unlimited lies.
    Imposing labels in itself is indecent (recall the candelabra).
    I propose, only for the use of the term "Stalinism", to punish the most severely (better immediately, without trial and delay). But this entire period can only be defined as the period of unprecedented heyday of the country. (dot)
  15. Combitor
    Combitor 22 September 2015 06: 56
    +15
    Isn't it time to start dismissing such innovators for such "initiatives"? Quite good job: zero sense, from time to time they push another nonsense into the masses and at the same time enjoy all the benefits of the servants of the people and receive a considerable salary. This bastard feeds on my labor ruble and I have to pay for the existence of this bum !? I disagree!
  16. Obolensky
    Obolensky 22 September 2015 06: 59
    +2
    Quote: inkass_98
    Quote: Obolensky
    I don’t understand, what the hell is a story?

    There was a wonderful article: http://alternate-politics.info/content/strashnyi_son_sovremennogo_istorika
    I highly recommend it to all the gentlemen who decided to play with the distortion of the facts. Well and to the rest - amusing reading matter with unequivocal implication.


    Bravo. Thank you I read it with pleasure. Unfortunately, only historical distortions were not only with us, and not only in our time. Alas.
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 22 September 2015 07: 05
    +9
    "Member of the Federation Council proposes to equate" rehabilitation of Stalinism "with extremist activity"

    And the propaganda of democracy, then, equate to terrorist activity. This will be much fairer and more accurate. How many "democratizers" of wars and wars have organized in the world, no dictator can compare with them, neither in quantity nor in cruelty.
  18. victorsh
    victorsh 22 September 2015 07: 05
    +8
    And all this turbidity is due to the fact that we do not have a Law on the recall of deputies and senators. Ponomarev has been in the West for more than a year, and has been receiving salaries.
  19. Mangel olys
    Mangel olys 22 September 2015 07: 06
    +7
    on the initiative of a member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.


    And huh hu not ho-ho !?

    In general, the senator is concerned about someone's denial of the repressions of 30-40 in the USSR, as well as the infringement of the rights of the LGBT community ... For the denial of the possibility of registering marriages between homosexuals will also be planted? ..


    How did he even crawl into the SF?

    "I know that after my death a heap of garbage will be put on my grave, but the wind of history will scatter it mercilessly!"
    "Many deeds of our party and people will be perverted and spat upon, first of all abroad, and in our country too. Zionism, striving for world domination, will brutally avenge us for our successes and achievements. It still considers Russia a barbaric country, as a raw material appendage. And my name will also be slandered, slandered. I will be credited with many atrocities. World Zionism will strive with all its might to destroy our Union so that Russia can never rise again. The strength of the USSR lies in the friendship of peoples. The edge of the struggle will be directed primarily at breaking this friendship, opening the outskirts of Russia. Here, I must admit, we have not done everything. There is still a large field of work.
    Nationalism will raise its head with particular force. He will crush internationalism and patriotism for a while, only for a while. National groups within nations and conflicts will arise. Many pygmy leaders will appear, traitors within their nations.
    In general, in the future development will go more complex and even frantic ways, the turns will be extremely steep. The point is that the East will be particularly upset. There will be sharp contradictions with the West.
    And yet, no matter how events develop, but time will pass, and the eyes of new generations will be turned to the affairs and victories of our socialist Fatherland. Year after year, new generations will come. They will once again raise the banner of their fathers and grandfathers and give us their due.

    They will build their future on our past "

    (I.V. Stalin. From a recording of a conversation with A. Kollontai)
  20. berkut2123
    berkut2123 22 September 2015 07: 10
    +2
    Ha ha !!! Well, the shot decided to show off before leaving the post of senator. And by the way, the face does not sparkle with intelligence.

    http://barentsobserver.com/ru/politika/2015/08/arhangelskiy-senator-uhodit-iz-so
    veta-federacii-03-08

    P.S. Sorry administration for vocabulary and a link to a third-party resource
  21. Moore
    Moore 22 September 2015 07: 19
    +3
    This, if I may say so, "senator" is a living illustration of the paradoxes and quirks of contemporary Russian reality in the power structures.
    They keep such a liberal boy (and not just him - remember Ksyusha’s mother in the Federation Council and others) in the highest echelons of power to give himself, loved ones, a democratic connotation. How else?! We have a free country!
    True, the overlays in this regard happen. For example, the Lyakhov’s perplexity at the Foreign Ministry’s demarche regarding the destruction of the monument to General Chernyakhovsky was not surprising: they dismantled the Stalinist satrap — you, in Russia, are already discussing this issue in the SF!
    Well, from this "boy", at least just like that, it stinks on the sly ... But the liberal "boys" and "girls" in the economic bloc are a real pi.pets ...
  22. parusnik
    parusnik 22 September 2015 07: 26
    +3
    A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity... Well, how they got down to Geyser ... Dobrynin remembered about the "victims" of Stalinism ..
    1. msm
      msm 23 September 2015 11: 11
      0
      Very subtle remark. In my opinion, very true!
  23. yana532912
    yana532912 22 September 2015 07: 38
    +3
    And from where they dug up this! After all, it is clear that intelligence is not mutilated!
  24. NewDoctor
    NewDoctor 22 September 2015 07: 44
    +1
    Ekary Babai. And where did they dig it from fool
  25. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 22 September 2015 07: 45
    +2
    Well, then everything is clear - the "senator" ends his "senatorial" career and realizes that one trough is running out and it is necessary to look for another. This gentleman, like other creatures like him, does not know how to do anything besides talking his tongue, and obviously did not show himself in organizational and other spheres of activity, so that he would be "noticed" at the top and offered another state position after the end of the "senatorial" term, therefore, he understands perfectly well that he now has only one road - to "opposition", to try to settle down to the feeding trough of NGOs, he may be able to feed himself with "grants" from overseas for some time, so this gentleman began to develop his "image" in advance, so that by that time already, to appear before the eyes of the new overseas masters already as a "fighter" with "totalitarianism" and "gebney", so to speak, with experience. Nothing personal, ordinary "business" of an ordinary, typical opportunist.
  26. sa-zz
    sa-zz 22 September 2015 07: 50
    -1
    How do such people get into power?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 22 September 2015 08: 03
      +4
      How do they get there? Yes, it's very simple, you and "choose" them, voting without thinking or, in general, without going to the polls.
      1. ava09
        ava09 22 September 2015 08: 28
        +2
        There is no need to be naive, the people could really CHOOSE only if they were right. And now there is a "tax" for any election, he has not stolen the required amount from those whom you are going to rule - he is free.
      2. sa-zz
        sa-zz 22 September 2015 13: 38
        +2
        In February 2012, he won the election of deputies of the municipal council of education "Yemtsovskoye", Arkhangelsk region (self-nominated - what he promised the people there is unknown).
        In March 2012, he became a senator of the Federation Council, represented the interests of the government of the Arkhangelsk region, was a representative of the executive body of the region (the candidacy was determined in advance by the GOVERNOR)
        It is unlikely that the deputy of the municipal council for whom I allegedly voted has the right to legislative initiative.
        BUST: In August 2015, the governor of the Arkhangelsk region announced that Konstantin Dobrynin was not included in the list of candidates for senators. It's time to ask him (the governor) - and for what kind of merit did Dobrynin be represented at all in the Federation Council ??

        And how do you respected generally represent your civil right to elections if you do not go to them? Maidan or what ?? It is another matter if in the village "noodles" to the ears of people hung, promised, knowing in advance (guaranteed?) What would happen in the Council.
    2. Stelth1985
      Stelth1985 22 September 2015 08: 06
      -2
      You choose))))! Move on to the polls!
      1. sa-zz
        sa-zz 22 September 2015 13: 34
        +1
        In February 2012, he won the election of deputies of the municipal council of education "Yemtsovskoye", Arkhangelsk region (self-nominated - what he promised the people there is unknown).
        In March 2012, he became a senator of the Federation Council, represented the interests of the government of the Arkhangelsk region, was a representative of the executive body of the region (Nomination determined in advance by the GOVERNOR)
        It is unlikely that the deputy of the municipal council for whom I allegedly voted has the right to legislative initiative.
        BUST: In August 2015, the governor of the Arkhangelsk region announced that Konstantin Dobrynin was not included in the list of candidates for senators. It's time to ask him (the governor) - and for what kind of merit did Dobrynin be represented at all in the Federation Council ??

        And how do you respected generally represent your civil right to elections if you do not go to them? Maidan or what ?? It is another matter if in the village "noodles" to the ears of people hung, promised, knowing in advance (guaranteed?) What would happen in the Council.
        1. Stelth1985
          Stelth1985 24 September 2015 09: 01
          -1
          I put to the polls. Yeah ... there’s always enough fools, smart ones are a little less, and there are practically no intelligent ones!

          Here is a link for you: https://youtu.be/jI1q2W0lELw

          The truth is there about the Maidan, but the basis is the same for the elections. The goblin specifically explains who organizes everything and how. A simple person simply does not have SUCH money to organize so much. Consequently, if those who organize all this are not from among the common people, therefore they are potential enemies of the people, for they go to the feeding trough to rob this very people, which they choose from their poor folly. You can assume that the fact that I do not go to the polls is a sign of protest against all the current authorities and this form of state called erefiya. My homeland of the USSR!
  27. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 22 September 2015 07: 50
    +5
    "The question is certainly interesting ...", but the surprising thing is: who appointed this representative of the "fifth" column to the legislative body of the country and for what merits? And what raises many more questions is why a loafer and an obvious enemy of Russia is still sitting in the Sov.Feda of the Russian Federation, but he already committed a crime when he advocated the permission of same-sex marriages in Russia! And now he pulls his "dirty hands" to our history, well after all, an obvious agent of the Fashington regime and is still at large! Dear Guarantor of the Constitution, take care of the fate of this traitor, it looks like he sat in the power structures and it's time for him to go to the felling!
  28. iury.vorgul
    iury.vorgul 22 September 2015 07: 52
    +2
    It is a pity, there were no men in the Arkhangelsk region, to send this pid ... "Sinatra" to the place that he so protects.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 22 September 2015 09: 18
      +3
      Yes, he sits in Moscow, and here the region. Or do you think Narusova in Tuva, and then lived in Bryansk ?! lol
    2. Down House
      Down House 22 September 2015 13: 50
      0
      Well, why, from their area, they sent him to hell))))
  29. Madcape
    Madcape 22 September 2015 07: 55
    0
    He senses the scum that he will soon go to the felling ... Arkhangelsk people, shame on you, because it was your "deputy" who "gave birth" to this, because you chose him (or did not choose with a turnout of no more than 30% - you can hardly choose anyone) !
    1. Stelth1985
      Stelth1985 22 September 2015 08: 05
      +2
      To go to the polls - you need to know those for whom you vote! Do the people know them? The question arises: gentlemen going to the polls, are you fools or mentally deranged ???

      Here is the answer!
  30. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 22 September 2015 08: 01
    +5
    Now everyone understands who is in our power, according to the principle of getting dumb, still dumb. I would receive a salary like a nurse's in 10 thousand rubles, I would immediately remember STALIN, yelling at an ELEPHANT, but you are not worthy of his hair tip, look at yourself, "a parody of life", but the men in the Arkhangelsk region were transferred.
  31. Stelth1985
    Stelth1985 22 September 2015 08: 03
    +2
    Maybe this moron will declare the enemy of the people and put w * sing on the count !? He will surely enjoy it!

    For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
  32. Proud.
    Proud. 22 September 2015 08: 13
    +2
    Whose mill is NOT Comrade Dobrynin blowing? Equating what is called "Stalinism" with Nazism is an absolutely hostile action aimed at revising the results and achievements of the USSR, including in the Victory in WWII and WWII, and the post-war reconstruction of the World (section of spheres In fact, the continuation of the Civil War. By the way. The question of the Kuriles has a direct bearing on this. Like the lands of the Kaliningrad region. The USSR is Russia (one of the social options (stages) of Historical existence). You would be at the beginning Dobrynin has learned the people's opinion (you won't get half of it). It is worth taking a closer look at Dobrynin's connections, including sex. How he throws him in the "sides"!
  33. atos_kin
    atos_kin 22 September 2015 08: 14
    0
    Dobrynina to the count!
  34. Basil50
    Basil50 22 September 2015 08: 19
    0
    How much indignation and all after the pederastic, in the literal sense, initiative. Now, if he simply blurted out about AND IN STALIN, maybe it would have gone unnoticed against the general background, there were already such * dealers *. Understanding that they themselves do not represent anyone other than sponsors, and here they * stand out * from the total mass of bad initiatives.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 22 September 2015 19: 15
      +2
      The most ardent opponents of the SOVIET UNION were the Nazis and fascists, who were fed by American and other European democracies, still exist in the * West *. And after all, we have * democrats * voicing Nazi and fascist ideas, and they see nothing strange in this. The ideas of the Nazis are very organically intertwined with the ideas of modern Caucasians and those whom Caucasians feed already with us. It is a pity that supporters of Caucasians * graze * in the law enforcement bodies of RUSSIA, which is probably why direct traitors find * understanding *, and sometimes even protection. However, gangsters and entire gangster * communities * surprisingly continue to not only exist, but also continue to enrich themselves.
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  35. Owl
    Owl 22 September 2015 08: 22
    +1
    Such deputies - to judge and punish! There are many questions to the "servants of the people": when will there be a law on deprivation of Russian citizenship? When will a citizen be allowed to defend his life, his property and the life of another person with a short-barreled rifled weapon (with a pistol)? when will the visa regime be introduced with Asian countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan) and with Ukraine? If Putin is hindering the honest "elected people of the people", then let them honestly say so, if no one bothers them - why do we need such deputies!
  36. ava09
    ava09 22 September 2015 08: 24
    +7
    (C) a considerable number of Russian lawmakers have too much free time that they do not want to spend on developing constructive and effective legislative measures, but they willingly spend on self-PR or even more dubious initiatives.

    The author should not be naive, even with the goal of "people grabbing". This SENATOR is a clear ENEMY, it's not about excess free time, PR or initiatives. This is his WAR against the Russian World, just in our troubled times it's time to start calling things by their proper names. And he hates Stalin to the point of convulsions because he is one of many rulers who could resist the "hydra" of the boyars, nobility, party nomenklatura, and bureaucracy. Such "activists" hate Grozny and Stalin more than anyone else, just for this reason, but sooner or later they themselves will drown in the sea of ​​slop that they poured on these WORTHY people.
    1. Arandir
      Arandir 23 September 2015 16: 50
      0
      Do not flatter yourself. It’s been rumored that Ivan IV (Ivan III’s grandfather was Grozny) has been rumored for 430 years that he was fierce, bloodthirsty, exterminating his own people, he didn’t regret his son and killed him in a rage. This lie was invented by the papal legate, a high-ranking Jesuit Anthony Possevin. He is also known for inventing and trying to realize political intrigue, hoping with the help of Poles, Lithuanians and Swedes to put Russia in intolerable conditions, and thus force Ivan the Terrible to subordinate the Orthodox Church to the Pope. But the king held a difficult diplomatic game, managing to use Posevin to sign peace with Poland and not making any concessions to Rome.
      For more than 400 years this lie has been alive. Tsar Ivan could not win the Livonian War. The sanctions situation was very reminiscent of today.
      What do you think, how much lies about Stalin will live if the country under his leadership won the most terrible war in the history of mankind, developed at an unprecedented pace, in its development surpassed all competitors except one because of devastation and war. They built socialism so hated in the West, a state for all people, and not just for elites. Where they cared about people's health, intellectual development, etc. etc.
      An article about Ivan IV was on this site.
      http://topwar.ru/12538-chto-zhe-na-samom-dele-proizoshlo-s-synom-ivana-groznogo.
      html
  37. duschman80-81
    duschman80-81 22 September 2015 08: 30
    +4
    You look at the expression on the face of this senator and everything becomes clear ... One question - how do they get there?
  38. oracul
    oracul 22 September 2015 08: 41
    +6
    Read the biography of the "senator from the Arkhangelsk region" and you will see that this type has the same relation to her as I do to the Vatican. Pay also attention to the fact that he managed to work successfully in "Ilimp Pulp ..", where, by the way, DA Medvedev also worked at one time. Then "Ilim Pulp" successfully sold its business together with the Kotlas Pulp and Paper Mill to the Americans, and the owners Zingarevich and Smushkin, having received their loot, live comfortably. In my opinion, Zingarevich invested in the football club "Reading" (England). So think about whose interests Mr. Dobrynin K. actually represents in the Senate. It is also interesting that Medvedev himself most often presents his period of work in the corporation as a member of the board of directors of a woodworking enterprise in Bratsk. The guys are dark.
  39. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 22 September 2015 08: 46
    +13
    All liberals and traitors are very afraid of Stalin. The mongrel of the West in the 1990's declared the communist regime in the People’s Republic of Bulgaria (1944-1989) “criminal” with a deliberate law. The Bulgarians do not give a damn about the opinion of traitors and for 25 years they have been bringing flowers and wreaths to Soviet monuments. Now the rulers are considering banning the symbols of communism (hammer and sickle, portraits of Lenin, Stalin, Dzerzhinsky, etc.) at the legislative level. Poor traitors do not understand that they will give them even greater severity.

    9 May 2015 g, Sofia, Monument to the Soviet Army, look to the left, just above the banner “We defeated fascism, we will defeat NATO”
    1. 97110
      97110 22 September 2015 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: ivanovbg
      Bulgarians do not care about the opinion of traitors and for 25 years
      they hold them in power.
    2. Des10
      Des10 22 September 2015 17: 56
      +4
      Quote: ivanovbg
      All liberals and traitors are very afraid of Stalin.

      it is yes!
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  40. erased
    erased 22 September 2015 08: 47
    +3
    The fact that this bureaucrat blurted out is not a problem. The trouble is that such bureaucrats are still running the show. And if so, there will be no order in the country for a very, very long time. And the people cannot do anything about it, because such "dumb people" somehow suit the authorities. It's rotten ...
    1. msm
      msm 23 September 2015 11: 35
      0
      Nothing wrong with them. This is our new elite, these are our gentlemen ...
  41. Begemot
    Begemot 22 September 2015 09: 08
    +11
    Night, going to a country house. There is heavy rain and wind. On the side of the headlights, four children are snatched away: two girls 12-13 years old, a boy 5 years old and another child in the arms of one of the girls. I have an overload, 5 passengers and a dog. To go another 7 km, but I think I'll get there - I'll come back, anyway, no one will take the children, because there are definitely not so many child seats, because the taxi is only under the patent, and so on. Food and "passionately love" my parliamentarians, senators and all the camarilla for "wise laws". After all, it is their efforts that make us non-humans. Their greed and greed turn us into criminals even in such simple things as helping a neighbor in need. But, thank God, there are still people with a capital letter, when I returned, I did not find these children, so someone gave a ride. The time is ripe for an audit in the government, there are too many claims to it.
    1. Down House
      Down House 22 September 2015 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: Begemot
      Four children are grabbing the headlights on the side of the road: two girls aged 12–13, a boy of about 5 and another child in the arms of one of the girls.

      What kind of horrors, where are their parents ?!
      That is the most important question!
      And senators in this case have nothing to do with it!
      1. Begemot
        Begemot 22 September 2015 14: 58
        +2
        In rural areas, this picture does not surprise, we went to my grandmother or friends, played a bit, did not notice how the weather turned bad. Parents without transport, sitting at home or at work. Here senators have nothing to do with it, but for signing the laws, they should be asked in full.
  42. Slavyanin
    Slavyanin 22 September 2015 09: 11
    0
    Pin DOS, trembling at the mention of Stalin, paves the way in the camp of the liberals, it is necessary to serve somewhere.
  43. spec3641
    spec3641 22 September 2015 09: 18
    +2
    The thief and the hat is on fire! .... Ectremism, only a vague pretext ..... The real reason is the fear of the return (attraction) of responsibility for their affairs.
  44. Stas57
    Stas57 22 September 2015 09: 22
    +2
    Member of the Federation Council from the Arkhangelsk region Konstantin Dobrynin.

    or maybe we should check it for the corruption component ....
  45. dmb
    dmb 22 September 2015 09: 51
    +9
    Well, why the kid was attacked. Well, yes, he is illiterate, but there are practically no others. There are traders, (and in the overwhelming majority), there are athletes, artists, there are a lot of clowns, and with legislators, there are many. Actually, illiteracy is a distinctive feature of all branches of government. For example, the other day the "Minister of Culture" called Dovlatov, who was born in 1941, mentioned in the article, "an outstanding writer of the XNUMXth century." Well, God bless him. The boy-legislator had forgotten a little, or rather simply did not know that they would rehabilitate those who were convicted. However, not only he, but also the Guarantor of the Constitution does not know either. Another thing is interesting why critics of Stalinism from among the liberal public stupidly repeat fictitious figures that are so easy to refute. After all, Svanidze and Pivovarov cannot be called fools. Scoundrels are undeniable, but not fools.
    1. Down House
      Down House 22 September 2015 13: 55
      +1
      Quote: dmb
      Illiteracy itself is a hallmark of all branches of government.

      Don’t worry, those commissions that are really drafting bills really know a lot about these bills.
      1. dmb
        dmb 22 September 2015 14: 56
        +2
        Yes, you have to worry. Actually developed projects are even worse than utter stupidity, uttered by the authorities, for they are aimed solely at increasing the welfare of the authorities themselves, and not at all on the interests of the majority.
        1. Begemot
          Begemot 22 September 2015 15: 31
          +1
          That's it to the point, subscribe.
        2. Begemot
          Begemot 22 September 2015 15: 31
          0
          That's it to the point, subscribe.
        3. Down House
          Down House 22 September 2015 15: 36
          0
          Quote: dmb
          for they are aimed solely at increasing the welfare of the government itself

          This is about what such laws?
          About the Criminal Code? Or maybe about the CAO?
          Please study our legislation properly, there are no special laws for the rich, rather there are a sufficient number of benefits for the poor.
          Well, the fact that out of 2 graduates of the same class, one is rich and the other is poor, is again not the senators to blame.
          1. dmb
            dmb 22 September 2015 16: 27
            +2
            Yah. Well then, can you explain the liberalization of smuggling or bribery? Amnesty. including tax, return stolen from offshore is it all for the poor? And this, by the way, is the legislative sphere of Kolya. You recommend studying legislation, but it would not be a sin for you to know that federal law cannot be adopted without senators. You will be amazed, but even judicial decisions that have entered into force and those are actually the law. So study. before advising.
  46. LPD17
    LPD17 22 September 2015 09: 53
    +6
    But it would be necessary just the opposite law. Punishment for denying the great past of the state. To defeat the entire European Union in the collection, you know that is another problem. Yes, and it is necessary to officially say that the victory in 1945 is not just over Germany, but over Europe, led by Germany. And the denial of the role of the leader of the USSR Stalin I.V. in the Great Victory and the creation of a great state of workers and peasants, constitutes a crime against the State with all the ensuing criminal consequences.
    1. sergej1950
      sergej1950 23 September 2015 08: 38
      0
      I agree with the comment. Do not forget Our History.
      PS A question for the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of birth are you?
      1. Arandir
        Arandir 23 September 2015 16: 22
        0
        PS A question for the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of birth are you?
        PPS Question to the author - "lawmaker" Dobrynin: what year of degeneration?
    2. shishkin7676
      shishkin7676 23 September 2015 13: 59
      -3
      Great past? why was this great past so carefully hidden? The USSR is the only country where the history of the Second World War has not been published. Six-volume book of 1961 filkin letter, should be 100-120 volumes, even now many do not know about land lease. Etc.
      1. Temer
        Temer 24 September 2015 02: 06
        0
        Comrade Shishkin, learn the materiel!
      2. bentonite
        bentonite 24 September 2015 16: 24
        0
        With regards to Lend-Lease. In the USSR, books were written about this, and films were shot, "Requiem for the PQ-17 caravan", for example. And the complete history of the war ... "The war ends when its last soldier is buried," and how many of them have not yet been found and nameless. .. My great-grandfather, for example, Red Army soldier Konstantin Seliverstovich Stifatov And how many volumes, 6 or 100, it is important what is in them.
  47. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 22 September 2015 09: 53
    +7
    A member of the Federation Council proposes to equate "the rehabilitation of Stalinism" to extremist activity

  48. projdoha
    projdoha 22 September 2015 09: 55
    +4
    read the book by G.A. Sidorov "The Secret Project of the Leader or Neo-Stalinism" and you will understand why some "personalities" hate Stalin so much
    1. Epifan
      Epifan 23 September 2015 12: 32
      0
      And most importantly, who in the majority hates it? And they do everything to destroy it. The same gop company.
      WHAT ARE THE JEWS FOR HIS STALIN HIS FOR THEIR MASS?
      http://blagin-anton.livejournal.com/733040.html
      1. Arandir
        Arandir 23 September 2015 16: 19
        0
        Also read LJ Anton Blagin.
    2. zadotov
      zadotov 23 September 2015 23: 42
      0
      you do not read fiction, but read the documents of those times and maybe you will understand something, all the industrial leaps of Russia, under Peter 1 under Stalin, were made on the blood of ordinary people, then stagnation, then catch up with Europe-America and maybe something you’ll understand, well, that this didn’t affect your great-grandfathers
  49. 56_br
    56_br 22 September 2015 09: 56
    +7
    Only United Russia needs to be praised and blessed, because it is the "honor and conscience" of modern Russia.
  50. Zomanus
    Zomanus 22 September 2015 09: 57
    0
    Yes, just Chuvachka paid for you. It seems to be not from the main persons, but the request has a place to be. I would, in the place of his partisans, take a closer look at him. What he eats, where to go for a vacation, where his funds are allocated. Maybe this comrade is no longer a comrade to us at all. Here is what the real time to do now is to purge the party ranks. For such active-passive people will be picked up by 20 and they will throw such nonsense, slowing down the consideration of more important issues.