The fourth Chinese amphibious assault ship-docking project 071 launched sea trials

Chinese media published pictures of the fourth Chinese amphibious assault ship helicopter 071 Yimeng Shan, taken during sea trials, reports blog Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.

The construction of this ship was carried out by the Shanghai Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard of the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipbuilding Group, which is part of the Shanghai Shipbuilding Company of the Chinese shipbuilding state corporation China Shipbuilding State Corporation (CSSC). He was launched in January 2015 and should be included in combat fleet in December.

To date, there is information about the four ships-docks of this project, the displacement of which is 20 000 tons. After the implementation of the construction program, the Chinese military will be able to conduct amphibious operations in remote areas at the level of leading Western states, with the exception of the United States.

Each ship 071 project has four transport helicopters Z-8F and two landing craft air cushion 726 project, which created "based on" American LCAC type boats.

Comments

[tomket]

And what about Ivan Gren? At least they lowered it into the water ????

[donavi49]

Even painted, but the transfer went to 2016 year. Until the end of the year, it may be pushed to the first exit, but far from a fact.

[lelikas]

Quote: tomket

And what about Ivan Gren? At least they lowered it into the water ????

Meanwhile, in a distant - distant galaxy, the eleventh year, a 5000-ton BDK is being completed ...

[adept666]

despite the fact that for export they even pushed a completely redone Aircraft Carrier during this time and 6 frigates (a little less displacement than Gren)

[Wiruz]

And how are things with "Ivan Gren"?

With God's help, by the end of the decade tests will go away

[lelikas]

Quote: Wiruz

With God's help, by the end of the decade, testing will leave laughing

Right! He was not consecrated like! That is the root of his problems!

[marlin1203]

Yes, they print them on an 3D printer or what? .. Dedicated to the memory of "Gren" ...

[tomket]

Quote: marlin1203

Yes, they print them on an 3D printer or what? ..

They have executions, we have parole. That’s the whole secret.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: tomket

They have executions, we have parole. That’s the whole secret.

And then they tell tales about corruption.

[Bayonet]

Quote: tomket

They have shootings

Well, don’t demonize China like that. Perhaps diligence and organization are in the first place here.

[Karabanov]

Quote: Bayonet

Perhaps diligence and organization are in the first place here.

Are we less hardworking hard workers? Especially when it comes to the security of the country.
And I agree with the second paragraph. But here there must be responsibility and a law that is valid for everyone (as it was precisely noted above).

[Bayonet]

Quote: Karabanov

Are we less hardworking hard workers?

More!

[tomket]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, don’t demonize China like that.

So it's the opposite, praise !!!!

[andrew42]

Come on, I lived there. Diligence and organization in China is the RESULT of MEASURES, not an inborn trait. Although "submission to bosses / servility" as two sides of the same coin have a place to be. Discipline and severity of punishment is what rules in China.

[sever.56]

Well, well .. China has a lot of debate with Japan about the ownership of certain islands. Such ships will be in place in the fleet of China.

[Down House]

Quote: sever.56

many disputes with Japan about the ownership of certain islands.

I modestly suspect that such a powerful and growing economy as China may have more ambitious plans.

[donavi49]

Well, such ships are now popular with everyone, because they are always really useful:
- demonstrate the flag, right up to Hamburg, the Chinese, for example, have reached.
- participation in numerous humanitarian operations.
- participation in various international operations (raids in Aden, SPN raids in Somalia on spot operations).
- extensive participation in exemplary operations to evacuate the Chinese from the flaming regions of the world.
- transfer of various goods to equipment, not equipped places. The same as the BDK, only one pass replaces the 3 BDK + the ability to transfer groups of helicopters in an assembled and ready-to-operate state.
- projection of force and other pressure of democratization.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Down House

more ambitious plans.

Not everyone can understand this. Many people still dream of a war between the United States and China, not understanding the obvious things. And the obviousness is that 70% of China's economy is exported to the EU and the United States. This means that the enemy is a priori different, since the Chinese, with all their anti-American statements, will not cut the branch on which the entire economy rests. The question is - who is this enemy? Japan is only an intermediate goal, or rather a distracting one (remember, Germany and the USSR were "friends" after the beginning of the Second World War). Based on these facts, it is necessary to "be friends" with China, not letting go of the machine gun. Otherwise we will pay very much, much more.

[Down House]

Quote: Ingvar 72

will not chop the branch on which the whole economy rests

The economy is supported by a little and a lot of other things, for example, on rare earth elements mined almost exclusively in China. I think that China is more beneficial to the "West" than vice versa.

Quote: Ingvar 72

need to be "friends" with China

Yes, definitely "be friends" and only "be friends"! But I think fears are unlikely))

[Karlovar]

The war has been going on for quite some time. But not between the states of the USA and China, especially not between the USA and the Russian Federation ..... The war is between world Jewry and world China (this is not a figurative expression, it has a place to be ... Besides the PRC there is the small Chinese states of Taiwan and Singapore ... There is the concept of Greater China, which includes Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Thailand, Myanmar, etc., in which the Chinese diaspora controls 60 to 90% of the economies of these countries .... There are multi-million Chinese diasporas in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South America, Africa, Europe ... By the way, in Russia, the Chinese diaspora is the smallest in comparison with the above countries and continents ....) ... Each of the parties puts together alliances. ... Russia took the side of China unequivocally ... Europe took the side of Jewry .... The rest of the countries are vacillating, including Japan, although many think that Japan has decided ....

[Boa kaa]

Quote: sever.56

Well, well .. China has a lot of debate with Japan about the ownership of certain islands.

Do you think they changed priorities? Abandoned * unification * of the motherland? And then, Taiwan is historically Chinese territory. This is like our Crimea. Then, to compete with the Yap is much more expensive than with Taiwan. And this despite the fact that everyone has ama behind their backs. But moral strength in the first case is a real factor on the side of the hongfuz.
As for the disputed islands. Yes, this is also possible. But, as the Dark One said: it’s the same as cutting a piglet - there are a lot of squeals, there is not enough wool! Yes, all will be condemned. And here the restoration of historical justice - the unification of a single people, the restoration of the territorial integrity of the homeland. IMHO.

[Tor5]

Well done, and there is nothing to add. Some, no, but "half-allies".

[roskot]

They are molded like pies.

[Down House]

Rather like dumplings, given the history of local cooking))

[perm23]

We had a country, there was a party, we also did. and now the market and democracy. And which is better?

[captain]

There is no country, but the party remains, you are wrong. Gorbachev, Shevardnadze, Yeltsin, Yakovlev, Kravchuk ... the leaders of the CPSU apparently knew what they were doing. By the way, Medvedev is the grandson of the secretary of the district committee, Gaidar is the grandson of the political worker-admiral, the editor of the magazine "Kommunist" and Chubais himself has a political worker's dad. So Lenin's work lives on and is continued by the children and grandchildren of true Leninists.

[captain]

For those who put a minus point on me, I recommend reading how the grandchildren and children of our secretaries general (except for Chernenko's grandchildren, all live in the United States or the EU) relate to us. The point is not what they write about Putin, but what characterization Khrushchev's granddaughter gives to our people, the great-granddaughter of the Soviet Secretary General, Dean of the International Relations Department at New School University in New York, Nina Khrushcheva, writes on the blog ninakhrushcheva.wordpress.com. The translation of the article is published by Novoye Vremya.
“Twenty years ago, I almost met Donald Trump. At the time I was graduating from Princeton, I was not familiar with American tastes in popular culture, and everyday encounters with celebrities shocked me a little. Marginal note: If I was older and less radical then, I am sure I would have liked this circus. ”But at that moment I considered myself a Russian intellectual, Russia gave me a chance to hope that its future would not be limited to a new return to communism, and the fact that a politician like Donald Trump existed seemed to me a crude joke, if not a mockery.
Trump has not changed a bit over the years, but now there is a demand for him in society, so what are we complaining about? It seems that today a much larger number of people take him seriously, about 20% support the idea of ​​Trump to run for president. For twenty years, we have become at 20% more prone to fawning and stupid jokes.
A sobering moment, because the Americans despise the Russians for their love of Putin and attempts to imagine him as such James Bond; his 007 style airplanes, bathyscaphe dives and shirtless horseback riding. They call him a clown, but at the same time, America herself drools over the no less clown - Donald Trump with his strange hairstyle.
As one writer subtly noted, for Trump, the pleasure of being insulted seems to be as attractive as the deals. It doesn't matter who his opponents are - reporters or other presidential candidates, for Trump they are all empty, incompetent, weak, disgusting and / or unable to satisfy a husband in bed. “When someone hurts you, your response should be as tough and aggressive as possible,” Trump wrote in one of his business council chapters. When tactics don't work, he tries to get them fired. "
This is very similar to Putin: when he is annoyed by critics, he threatens to "wet them in the outhouse." The situation in Ukraine, the imprisonment of former oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, as well as the murders of journalist Anna Politkovskaya and opposition leader Boris Nemtsov - confirm that the phrase "your answer should be as tough and aggressive as possible" is quite in the spirit of Putin.
I do not support the Russian president - I even went out to Red Square with a poster "Putin is Dick", but I would like to advise some Americans who are convinced of their rightness and absolute innocence to look in the mirror first.
I think that their awareness of the real state of affairs will significantly improve the situation in the international arena. Moreover, it could save us from Trump's victory in the presidential election. The king of reality TV is certainly not Putin, not yet. But if elected, wouldn't Mexico or even Canada become American Ukraine? "
Source obozrevatel.com

[Wiruz]

These are the landing ships we need to build. In the furnace, all these Mistrals and Surfs with Avalanches.

[lelikas]

Quote: Wiruz

These are the landing ships we need to build. In the furnace, all these Mistrals and Surfs with Avalanches.

He can’t land tanks.

[donavi49]

Well, the Chinese will finish building the second three and switch to this - it seems they are already actively building it.

[lelikas]

Quote: donavi49

Well, the Chinese will finish building the second three and switch to this - it seems they are already actively building it.

So, in their abilities, I just have no doubt.

[kil 31]

Mdaaaaaaaaaaa With such speeds they will soon offer the world " Buy ten helicopters and a helicopter carrier for free"

[Engineer]

The design of the ship is already painfully dear, I feel the hand of our specialists.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Engineer

The design of the ship is already painfully dear, I feel the hand of our specialists.

When I see a wheel bursting with pride!

[Mera joota]

Quote: Engineer

The design of the ship is already painfully dear, I feel the hand of our specialists.

If you are from the homeland of USS Austin and USS San Antonio, then maybe ...

[Roman 1977]

after all, the good fellows are the Chinese, they bake ships like pies, but we apologize not, after the failure with the Mistrals (thanks to Serdyukov, once again), we still cannot hold out the "push-pull" pr. 11771 "Ivan Gren" (laid 23.12.2004/18.05.2012/1171, launched on 60/70/XNUMX), which is a development of the large landing craft pr. XNUMX of the late XNUMXs-XNUMXs with a helipad.
All more or less developed countries have in their composition UDC:
Australia, having bought in 2011 the former English UDC "Largs Bay", in December last year put into operation the UDC L 02 "Canberra" built according to the Spanish project, and next year to accept the second UDC L 01 "Adelaide"

Japan-4: 2 type Hyūga and 2 type Izumo

South Korea: 1 type Dokdo (planned 3)

At the same time, the South Koreans, having built 2 Makassar type UDCs for the Indonesians (2 more Indonesians built themselves), are helping to build 2 ships of this project Peru and 2 for the Philippines and Myanmar.

Even Algeria, which has never been a trendsetter in naval fashion, bought the UDC Kalaat Beni-Abbes in Italy. DVKD has a continuous flight deck with two airstrips for heavy helicopters at the ends and a 30-ton lift in the central part of the deck. The ship's dock chamber provides the basing of three LCM-class tank landing boats. In addition, on davits and sponsons, the Algerian DVKD carries three small landing craft LCVP type, one LCP (L) type and two semi-rigid motor boats. The small hangar ("garage") deck can accommodate up to 15 armored vehicles or five T-90SA tanks. The ship's crew is 150 people (including the air group), and the landing capacity is 440 people.

We alone decide everything, whether we need UDC, about their projects and where they will be built ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Novel 1977

All more or less developed countries include UDC

I remember that some here, with foaming at the mouth, argued that the UDC was necessary for the damned imperialists for the wars with the Papuans! And since we are a peaceful country, we don’t need them!

[Roman 1977]

Quote: Bayonet

I remember that some here, with foaming at the mouth, argued that the UDC was necessary for the damned imperialists for the wars with the Papuans! And since we are a peaceful country, we don’t need them!

Maybe someone argued, but certainly not me ... As for those who argued, I can only say one thing:

Now it turns out that the fleet needs a large landing craft, which, following the example of its counterparts during the Second World War, should be thrown ashore like a killer whale after a seal for landing? At the same time, being exposed to fire even from small arms, not to mention artillery and tanks, and not the UDC, from which the landing is carried out on the DKA, plus air cover (the same Ka-52K). Wonderful. As for the need for UDC, the USSR built 3 BDK pr. 1174, the same UDC in the dock chamber of which up to six boats pr. 1785 (cruising speed 7,5 knots) or boats pr. 1176 (10 knots) were placed. Instead, three Project 1206 air-cushion landing craft (up to 50 knots) or Project 11770 Serna air-cushion landing craft could be placed in the dock chamber. Plus air group-4 Ka-29, and not 1, as on the "Green".

Plus unrealized project 11780, so-called. "Ivan Tarava", which in the anti-submarine version was supposed to carry 25 Ka-27 helicopters. In the landing version - 12 Ka-29 transport and combat helicopters. In the dock chamber - 4 Project 1176 landing craft or 2 Project 1206 air cushion landing craft

[Roman 1977]

In my opinion, the main problem is that the USSR began to lag behind in the construction of landing ships. Nobody prepared large-scale landing operations, so the construction of the large landing ship pr. 775 was transferred to "fraternal" Poland, while they themselves built the unnecessary "hermaphrodites" pr. 1143 with their feeble Yak-38, APC pr. 1155, destroyers pr. 956, 5 types of nuclear submarines, etc. etc. The same project of the Soviet UDC "Ivan Tarava" was ruined by departmental contradictions, so at the request of the Minister of Defense of the USSR Marshal of the Soviet Union D.F. ... And plus the "dislike" of the Soviet leaders for aircraft carriers, which they considered "a tool of imperialism"
And now, it has what we have:
3 oldest large landing ships of pr. 1171, one of which "Orsk" (Black Sea Fleet) is under constant repair
19 BDK pr. 775, which are "achieved" by the "Syrian express"
and one, under construction for 11 years (laid down in 2004) "push-push" "Ivan Gren" pr. 11711, which is essentially a development of the ancient large landing craft of project 1171 of the 60s, with an added helicopter deck, which in turn is the development of the American tank landing LST during the Second World War.
With the termination of the Mistral contract, nothing like the UDC will shine for us in the near future, but from the development of the Priboy UDC, which still exists in the form of a model, to its introduction into the Navy, taking into account the construction time of the remaining ships, it will take at least 5-6 years ... It is cheaper to buy UDC pr. 071 from the Chinese, or even easier to buy just a "box" and equip it at domestic shipyards.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Novel 1977

Maybe someone argued, but obviously not me ..

No, it was up to you ...

[plow]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Quote: Down House

more ambitious plans.

Not everyone can understand this. Many people still dream of a war between the United States and China, not understanding the obvious things. And the obviousness is that 70% of China's economy is exported to the EU and the United States. This means that the enemy is a priori different, since the Chinese, with all their anti-American statements, will not cut the branch on which the entire economy rests. The question is - who is this enemy? Japan is only an intermediate goal, or rather a distracting one (remember, Germany and the USSR were "friends" after the beginning of the Second World War). Based on these facts, it is necessary to "be friends" with China, not letting go of the machine gun. Otherwise we will pay very much, much more.

Much stronger than from Europe or from the Americans?
Have you ever wondered why 5,5 million Japanese live in Hokkaido, and 103 million live in Honshu. Why do not they populate it? Why the Hokkaido Ministry of Colonization was founded in the mid-19th century and is still difficult to settle. Answer: the climate is not suitable. Relatively mild with snowy winters, by our standards, for them it is harsh. Also the Chinese. They are used to living in warm climates. Subtropics and tropics. I can hardly imagine the Chinese living in Yakutia, Kolyma, Magadan or the Urals. Yes, we must fight not for life, but to die with terrible Russians.

[Mera joota]

Quote: Arandir

I can hardly imagine the Chinese living in Yakutia, Kolyma, Magadan or the Urals.

Well, imagine the Chinese living in Tibet or in the Gorno-Badakhshan region, where the climate is much more severe than in Yakutia and even more so in the Urals. Moreover, they manage to engage in agriculture there, hitting the locals with their crops. It is clear that they didn’t settle there voluntarily, the party ordered and thousands of them reached populate new lands. So if the party tells them to populate the banks of the Kolyma from Seymchan to Chersky, then don’t hesitate, they will settle, they will also conduct the railway along the Kolyma tract ...

[andrew42]

if the Party orders, then yes, they will populate. No options.

[Karlovar]

In Tibet and XUAR, the Chinese live according to the order, on the instructions, so to speak, of the party .... to keep the separatist sentiments in check .... And these areas are very important for China (like Siberia and the Far East for Russia) ... These the gates of the future New Silk Road to Europe, oil and gas pipelines from Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, in the future from Russia and Iran go through the same regions !!! But to stabilize these areas is possible only through the arrangement of infrastructure, job creation, the rise of social services, which the Chinese are doing (as it was under the USSR, Russians moved to the republics and established infrastructure, production, universities, hospitals, etc.)

[Karlovar]

I’m afraid your arguments will never reach many! The influence of the anti-Chinese propaganda of the 90s and the zeros, carried out by yourself, is still great .... By the way, you can’t drive Russians living in the middle lane to Siberia and the Far East! !! Moreover, a bunch of my friends moved from Siberia to Rostov-papa, Krasnodar, Sochi, Tambov, Kursk, Sochi, already to Crimea, even to Belarus .... I don’t know anyone in Vladik who moved in the last 10 -15 years....