Council of the military industrial complex: the share of modern weapons in the VKS - about 40%

The share of modern technology in video conferencing is currently 38-40%, RIA News a message from a member of the expert council of the military-industrial commission Viktor Murakhovsky.

“To date, the task of having 30% of modern weapons by the end of 2015, has already been exceeded by the Russian Aerospace Forces. In general, there we are talking about the parameter 38-43% of the total volume of the range of weapons and military and special equipment of this type of armed forces ",

declared Murakhovsky.

According to the previously adopted rearmament program, by 2020, the share of new equipment in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation should reach 70%.

The agency’s reference: “A new type of armed forces took over combat duty in Russia from August 1 — the Aerospace Forces (AUF) were created in the country, formed by the merger of the Aerospace Defense forces and the Air Force. The command of the integrated military structure was entrusted to Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev, who previously headed the Air Force. ”

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[sever.56]

"The Russian economy is torn to shreds" ... It seems that the loser in life Abama said so?
Oh well...!!!

[Kostyar]

We will continue to look, spring will show who heck where ...

[Arh]

How healthy is Russia going forward !!!

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Arh

How healthy is Russia going forward !!!

May God grant that the prophecies of Wanga come true.

[Nevsky_ZU]

People, fresh, military acceptance:

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: lonely

The goals are of course set. But it is one thing to set goals, and it is another thing to achieve it. They can do what they say, time will tell. We will live, we will see.

P.S. A new technology refers to a technique that is made from scratch. Overhaul technical equipment is not considered a new modern technology.

It talks about modern, I’m wondering what they consider modern - is the equipment made in the last 15 years or in the last 5?

[alone]

Greetings Sergey! I don’t even know what to say. In theory, even if the technique has been done for 5 years, it’s difficult to consider this technique modern. Science does not stand still and does not wait for officials to do what they promise. What is considered a novelty today, tomorrow is already considered old fashioned.

[Tanais]

Quote: lonely

Greetings Sergey! I don’t even know what to say. In theory, even if the technique has been done for 5 years, it’s difficult to consider this technique modern. Science does not stand still and does not wait for officials to do what they promise. What is considered a novelty today, tomorrow is already considered old fashioned.

And please name a state that can afford to write off "old" items every 5 years and introduce new items into operation?

Can you tell us how many years the United States, with its capabilities, did not update its Air Force fleet with "novelties", but only dealt with the modernization of "old stuff"?

Despite the fact that their new products (F-22, F-35) have very vague prospects, they still have to go this way ...

[alone]

Quote: Tanais

And please name a state that can afford to write off "old" items every 5 years and introduce new items into operation?

nobody writes them off, but they’re not called a supernova

[Vladimirets]

Quote: lonely

do not call a super novelty

Not a single supernova gets into the troops in such a short time.

[Tanais]

Quote: lonely

nobody writes them off, but they’re not called a supernova

I totally agree! Like the F-117, outdated and worthless, already at the beginning of its design ...

[onix757]

"The Ministry of Finance proposes to reduce by less than 10% military spending of the budget for 2016. The closed part of expenditures, including spending on national defense, will be reduced in 2016 by 14,6% compared to the current year's budget, to 3,2 trillion rubles."

[Turner38]

our happiness is that China does not refuse us in carbide tools and other "consumables". Otherwise, the entire defense industry would sit in one place, since there was no such thing and is not expected.

[ssn18]

We have enough of a hard alloy and a quick-cut, and it is domestic that is used in special production.

[sv68]

they cling to fall consider ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Hurry sons ... We went through this for you in the 41st!

[alone]

The goals are of course set. But it is one thing to set goals, and it is another thing to achieve it. They can do what they say, time will tell. We will live, we will see.

P.S. A new technology refers to a technique that is made from scratch. Overhaul technical equipment is not considered a new modern technology.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: lonely

Overhauled technical equipment is not considered a new modern technology.

On the one hand, you are 100% right, but on the other hand, if you take for example the SU35 and the deeply modernized MIG 31 and TU 22, as well as TU 160. Add the T-90, what can I say about this? The fact that this is not new, yes, but it is already modern!

[alone]

T-90 17th modification of the T-72. Those planes that you list, the Su-35 is a very deeply modernized Su-27 and they have been in service for a long time. I will give you a simple example. Take the T-34 and start to stuff it with modern equipment. And what, it will be considered a modern weapon? or instant-21?

[Oleg14774]

Quote: lonely

And what, it will be considered a modern weapon? or instant-21?

Yes, I agree with you, but if you take Amer’s F16-15-18 and Abrams and compare with what I have listed, it’s still better than the T34 and MIG21. Moreover, they themselves are not inferior to NATO, but with modern modernization, superior. In addition, there is a country's economy and cooperation between enterprises. There were no problems with the Union!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

stir up the lonely again ...

[alone]

Quote: MIKHAN

stir up the lonely again ...

Well, yes, of course. I had to put photos of veterans here, make a fuss about you, make money on this rating)))

[Tanais]

Quote: lonely

P.S. A new technology refers to a technique that is made from scratch. Overhaul technical equipment is not considered a new modern technology.

And what about the new Su-27 built on the basis of the "classic glider" Su-35go?

After all, they are made from "scratch", but on the basis, as you put it, "old" ...

And is it a deep modernization of "old", "second-hand" gliders, equipping them with new, more modern engines, avionics in general, avionics and weapons ...

What do you call it? In appearance, after all, "old-fashioned" ...

[alone]

Quote: Tanais

they are not made from "scratch", but on the basis, as you put it, "old" ...

I didn’t say that the Su-27 is old. But the base of the Su-35 is an airplane that has been in service for at least 25-30 years. To call it a novelty and ultra-modern weapons is a hoax. Do you want to be deceived? Yes, please.

And is it a deep modernization of "old", "second-hand" gliders, equipping them with new, more modern engines, avionics in general, avionics and weapons ...

Put on the T-34 the latest SLA, active protection. Fill it with night vision devices, thermal imagers. If you consider it to be a modern weapon, then we have no reason to argue

[Vladimirets]

Quote: lonely

Put the latest LMS, active protection on the T-34. Fill it with night vision devices, thermal imagers.

You cannot do this, why exaggerate? There is the concept of a resource or the potential of modernization. And at the Su-35 and Su-27 even gliders are different.

[sandrmur76]

In a dispute, true is born. There is simply an economic component. There is a technique that is still obsolete in the drawings. But the inherent potential of modernization is not an empty place. If the Su-30cm makes 18 months, then this is not a 3D printer to make changes to each new model. It will go to the Armada and T50 troops and will be considered the newest for many years.

[Amurets]

Lonely! Please answer, we have a new tank design that is SUPER-PUPER unsurpassed or a glider circuit SUPER-STAR. There is no modern tank coming from Renault FT-17, and the monoplane circuit is from Mozhaisky’s plane. So when you invent something fundamentally new, here then you are orientating. And now there is a modernization of the schemes proposed at the end of the 19th at the beginning of the 20th century. So forward invent new schemes that will become classics.

[alone]

Quote: Amurets

Please answer, we have that the new tank scheme appeared SUPER-SUPER unsurpassed or the glider scheme SUPER-STAR. There is no modern tank coming from Renault FT-17, and the monoplane scheme from Mozhaisky airplane. That's when you invent something fundamentally new, and then orite. And now there is a modernization of the schemes proposed at the end of the 19th at the beginning of the 20th century. So forward invent new schemes that will become classics.

I'm not screaming)) I write)) you yourself say that the foundation of all this was laid in the 19th century. The general scheme is the same)) But the conversation about what to consider the T-90 as a modern weapon does not fit into any gates. when fifth-generation airplanes are put into service in series, then we can talk about modern weapons. If you don’t upgrade the MIG-29, it will not become a fifth-generation airplane, but just a 4th-generation airplane with several pluses. Things should be called by their proper names, but not wasted in vain.

[Amurets]

All these generations were invented by journalists and political strategists. We were taught; if a weapon meets the tasks to be performed, if it is reliable and reliable, it is a modern weapon. And there is no need for generations of formats and other rubbish. Because until a new weapon scheme appears, ammunition built on new principles, all these new products will be modernization and modification.

[Alexander 3]

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[dorz]

There will be no veterans of the Third World War.

[alone]

Quote: dorz

There will be no veterans of the Third World War.

Exactly half of the sitting members of the forum hope not only to survive, but also to become rulers of the ruins)))

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: lonely

Quote: dorz

There will be no veterans of the Third World War.

Exactly half of the sitting members of the forum hope not only to survive, but also to become rulers of the ruins)))

,,,,,,,,,,,, Well, you are bent! And will Azerbaijan finally capture Karabakh?

[alone]

Quote: MIKHAN

Well, you are bent! And will Azerbaijan finally capture Karabakh?

And what about Vitaly? and where does Azerbaijan? Oh yes, how is it with Mars)))? You were going to conquer Mars)))

[Tusv]

What will happen if we cross the air defense, the air force and the nuclear shield. And the Americans are all missile defense and missile defense. At this point in time, Americans are manned space missile defense too ...

[FID]

So: C-400 / 500, Hangar, Mace, Yars, etc. (you can continue) this is 40% novelty, but what about airplanes?

[Tanais]

Quote: SSI

So: C-400 / 500, Hangar, Mace, Yars, etc. (you can continue) this is 40% novelty, but what about airplanes?

Well it turns out, sho no sho

[IAlex]

Things are going very slowly ...

[iliitchitch]

We are moving right. One T-50, figuratively speaking, will pull along "a million innovative pots with CNC", and not vice versa, as one spotted Judas believed, calling betrayal a conversion. We went through this, and we will gain speed ...

[moskowit]

Unusually, we veterans of the Soviet Army, the abbreviation VKS, do not immediately realize. For a hundred years, the Air Force has been familiar and understandable to everyone ... Well, space, so space ...

[beard64]

...
- yeah ...
/ by the will of God
and heaven
- got to serve - I'm in the Air Force ... /

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: moskowit

Unusually, we veterans of the Soviet Army, the abbreviation VKS, do not immediately realize. For a hundred years, the Air Force has been familiar and understandable to everyone ... Well, space, so space ...

All things in space will be ... These are the things!

[Amurets]

There was aviation for 3000km / h. And airplanes with a flight altitude of 30000m. Well, so what. Where did the slogan Higher-all, Faster-all, real remained Farther-all. The answer to this will be the same; expediency. Why is this necessary? Speed ​​for 3000 km / h is a thermal barrier . The altitude for 20000 meters has its own problems. And the tasks of the Air Force and VKS are completely different. Why do not I understand? Maybe to the next mess?

[Knight Rider]

Quote: moskowit

Well cosmic, so cosmic ...

Aerospace. In the history of Russia there were already such troops Well, the abbreviation of the Air Force has not gone away, and is present, for example, in the names of the air armies - the 6th Air Force and Air Defense Army, for example, and on the keels of aircraft

[iliitchitch]

Quote: moskowit

Unusually, we veterans of the Soviet Army, the abbreviation VKS, do not immediately realize. For a hundred years, the Air Force has been familiar and understandable to everyone ... Well, space, so space ...

I think the 6th generation of fighters will fly on the 1st space (7.8km / s). So we renamed it on time, we’ll have time to get used to it.

[roskot]

Give the five-year plan in the army in four years !!!

[Kos_kalinki9]

Stakhanova to help you.

[31rus]

The numbers are a tempting thing, and interest so in general, there’s nothing to earn the conveyors at full capacity, we’ll open new shops and everything will be fine, the Ministry of Finance will reduce it as a brake on development and everything will work out, if only without hurray-patriotism, everything has its time accurately and wisely

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Terner38

our happiness is that China does not refuse us in carbide tools and other "consumables". Otherwise, the entire defense industry would sit in one place, since there was no such thing and is not expected.

You are wrong, the USSR had its carbide tools, though the EBN, with its corrupt young reformers, almost destroyed this industry. There are now such manufactures, but the cost of their tools is more expensive than Chinese, although they are not inferior in quality, and sometimes surpass Chinese counterparts. The whole question is in the domestic economic policy of the government of the Russian Federation - domestic credit is very expensive, and the exchange rate is unjustifiably overvalued and it is regulated not by the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank, but by the IMF.

[Amurets]

I would say this, the quality of the Chinese instrument is much inferior to the Russian one. I mean the hard and superhard instrument. I’m not going to the financial side. Here you are right.

[lopvlad]

I am amused by the opinion of the "experts" that this new technique is the one that was developed from scratch. Zero to zero will be zero. The times of discoveries of wonderful, that not a year, that invention took place in 70-80. And the point is not only in the capabilities of designers but also in the capabilities of industry and science ...
That is, stupidly, the industry may not be ready to produce what you came up with in series.
Modern weapons are those weapons that ensure the conduct of a successful war in the present and the next decade.