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Rating: MiG-25 and MiG-31 - one of the fastest aircraft

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The portal Business Insider has published a list of the fastest aircraft ever to fly into the sky, reports RIA News.




Some of these machines are no longer in operation, but their design and characteristics have had a significant impact on the development of design ideas in the aircraft industry.

The fastest Soviet aircraft edition called the MiG-25. “Foxbat (NATO codification) is a third-generation supersonic interceptor fighter developed by the Mikoyan-Gurevich bureau. Its maximum speed without missiles on board can reach more than 3400 km / h, but in operation the speed of the aircraft is limited to 3000 km / h, ”writes BI.

"The United States recognized that the MiG-25 is a highly maneuverable fighter, whose increased air mobility is largely due to the size of its wings," the portal notes.

Another aircraft from the list of BI - MiG-31. According to him, "Foxhound is a fourth-generation supersonic long-range interceptor fighter that can reach speeds up to 2600 km / h without rockets." “The Soviet MiG-1981, commissioned in 31, is still one of the fastest fighters in stories and continues to be in service with the Russian and Kazakh armies, ”experts write.

The rating also includes an “experimental E-152 interceptor fighter, based on the interception complexes of which the MiG-25 was created, which developed a maximum speed over 3000 km / h.”

However, the “X-15 experimental rocket-gliding aircraft equipped with rocket engines was recognized to be the fastest aircraft: on October 3 1967, pilot Joe Walker on X-15 set an unofficial height record (107,96 km) and maximum speed 7274 km / h.

The list also includes the XB-70 "Valkyrie" strategic bomber (3300 km / h), McDonnell-Douglas F-4 "Phantom" II interceptor (2369 km / h), the single-engine single-interceptor Conver F-106 "Delta Dart" ( 2454 km / h), experimental Bell X-2 (3000 km / h) and Lockheed ST-71 Blackbird (3540 km / h) ”.

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  1. yuriy55
    yuriy55 20 September 2015 11: 04 New
    +75
    Unlike the experimental American X-15, our MiG-25 and MiG-31 are real. It is a pity that Belenko surpassed the MiG-25 ... Judah.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iowL96Dm6hM
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 20 September 2015 11: 12 New
      +22
      This is all the USSR .... I would like something new! I hope there is nest in our defense industry? hi
      1. boroda64
        boroda64 20 September 2015 11: 25 New
        +31
        .
        - if you are not in the know - the USSR is one of the names of Russia
        / and Russia-was also Muscovy ../
        1. supertiger21
          supertiger21 20 September 2015 15: 29 New
          +4
          I was impressed by the video where the MiG-25 rose to a height of more than 30 km, into the stratosphere. Outwardly, it looked as if the MiG was in outer space good ! As far as I know, the 25th record was set for the maximum flight ceiling (I do not remember exactly 38 or 39 km), which is still not broken.
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          2. gjv
            gjv 20 September 2015 19: 02 New
            +4
            Quote: supertiger21
            As far as I know, the 25th record was set for the maximum flight ceiling (I do not remember exactly 38 or 39 km), which is still not broken.

            In the process of testing and refinement, several world aviation records were set. In the FAI documents, the record car passed under the E-266 code with R-266 engines. Even after completion of the tests and the beginning of serial construction in 1969, prototypes of the machine continued to be used, including to achieve new records.
            On August 21, 1977, test pilot A. Fedotov set the absolute world record for a flight altitude of 37 m on this machine, and a total of 650 world records were set on this type of aircraft.
            This is a record of flight altitude and today for aircraft with a turbojet engine.
            Only Americans flew higher on the North American X-15 and SpaceShipOne, but these are not planes, but experimental rocket planes.
          3. Kent0001
            Kent0001 20 September 2015 20: 05 New
            +1
            These are not planes, these are MASTERPIECES !!!! And SERIAL !!!
        2. zennon
          zennon 20 September 2015 17: 57 New
          +5
          Quote: boroda64
          .
          - if you are not in the know - the USSR is one of the names of Russia
          / and Russia-was also Muscovy ../

          Yes, this is understandable. MIHAN meant that these machines were created long ago, back in the days of the USSR.
      2. Tanais
        Tanais 20 September 2015 11: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: MIKHAN
        This is all the USSR .... I would like something new! I hope there is nest in our defense industry?

        And T - 50, than to you, actually, not a nest egg? In all cases, it promises to be multifunctional, and some modification of it, apparently, will not only be able to replace the MiG - 31 at the combat post, but also overshadow its fame.

        But apparently, it seems to me, these planes will carry on joint service for a long time ...
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 20 September 2015 12: 01 New
          +5
          Quote: Tanais
          And T - 50, what is actually not a nest egg for you? In all cases, it promises to be multifunctional, and some kind of modification,

          So far, only talk ... In all its glory they do not show, and there are few of them .. Zhdems! hi
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 20 September 2015 12: 15 New
            +21
            MiG-25 legendary plane! This interceptor went through almost all the major conflicts of the second half of the 20th century, beginning with the Arab-Israeli wars and conflicts, ending with the Iraq-Iran war and the Gulf War. On account of the victims of the MiG-25 aces, there are such famous American fighters as F-5, F-4, F / A-18 and even F-15 according to a number of Syrian sources. The 25th is also known for having managed to completely fly over Israeli airspace several times, while each time having managed to avoid attacks by Mirage III and F-4 Phantom fighters and also Hawk air defense systems.
            1. veteran66
              veteran66 20 September 2015 12: 29 New
              +2
              Quote: supertiger21
              The 25th is also known for having managed to completely fly over Israeli airspace several times, while each time having managed to avoid attacks by Mirage III and F-4 Phantom fighters and also Hawk air defense systems.

              Wow, only the Jews managed to bring down one
              1. Tanais
                Tanais 20 September 2015 13: 03 New
                +6
                Quote: veteran66
                Wow, only the Jews managed to bring down one

                When is this?
                1. supertiger21
                  supertiger21 20 September 2015 13: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tanais
                  Quote: veteran66
                  Wow, only the Jews managed to bring down one

                  When is this?


                  In 1981, when there was a shelling between the link of the Israeli F-15 and the link of the Syrian MiG-25. According to a number of sources, there were losses not only in the MiGs but also in the F-15 in that battle. Forgive me the Israeli comrade-forum users laughing , but there’s even a slightly muddy video of the crash of a downed plane, the silhouettes of which very much resemble the F-15.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 20 September 2015 15: 58 New
                    +6
                    "Forgive me the Israeli forum comrades laughing,
                    but there’s even a slightly muddy video of the crash of a downed plane "///

                    Why, forgive, of course drinks . One F-15 really got
                    a missile from a Syrian pilot (it seems, after all, a MiG-23, and
                    not MiG-25), but the plane reached the airfield. After a long repair
                    (engine replacement, etc.) the aircraft was returned to service. Syrians recorded
                    him like a downed one - well, during the war he was withdrawn
                    out of service...
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 20 September 2015 18: 12 New
                      +2
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      (it seems, after all, the MiG-23, but
                      not MiG-25),

                      That's it!
                      And Mig-25 and Mig-31 stand side by side in the Sakharov Togliatti Museum. True battered, but still. hi
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 22 September 2015 00: 17 New
                        0
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And the Mig-25 and Mig-31 stand side by side

                    2. supertiger21
                      supertiger21 20 September 2015 19: 56 New
                      0
                      Quote: voyaka uh
                      "Forgive me the Israeli forum comrades laughing,
                      but there’s even a slightly muddy video of the crash of a downed plane "///

                      Why, forgive, of course drinks . One F-15 really got
                      a missile from a Syrian pilot (it seems, after all, a MiG-23, and
                      not MiG-25), but the plane reached the airfield. After a long repair
                      (engine replacement, etc.) the aircraft was returned to service. Syrians recorded
                      him like a downed one - well, during the war he was withdrawn
                      out of service...


                      Not quite what I expected, but still glad to see an Israeli who knows how to confess! hi
                    3. sivuch
                      sivuch 20 September 2015 23: 28 New
                      +1
                      MiG-21bis R-60 rocket
                  2. avia1991
                    avia1991 20 September 2015 22: 08 New
                    +5
                    Quote: supertiger21
                    shelling between the link of the Israeli F-15 and the link of the Syrian MiG-25.

                    Wildly sorry, but - You are not confusing anything? I will not say for sure about the case you are describing - but the MiG-25 was intended specifically for high-altitude interception, and not air combat, in which I did not feel very confident - unlike the MiG-23, for example. In the Soviet army, the MiG-25 served, as far as I know, exclusively in air defense aviation. The element of the MiG-25 is speed: in practice, it could rise almost like a rocket, confidently accelerating at an angle of attack of 45 degrees to 3000 km / h! At the same time, an air battle with a fighter involves subsonic or transonic speeds - otherwise the battle participants will simply lose sight of each other smile And at these speeds, the 25th is not the best option for aerobatics.
                    1. supertiger21
                      supertiger21 21 September 2015 12: 52 New
                      +1
                      Quote: avia1991
                      Quote: supertiger21
                      shelling between the link of the Israeli F-15 and the link of the Syrian MiG-25.

                      Wildly sorry, but - You are not confusing anything? I will not say for sure about the case you are describing - but the MiG-25 was intended specifically for high-altitude interception, and not air combat, in which I did not feel very confident - unlike the MiG-23, for example. In the Soviet army, the MiG-25 served, as far as I know, exclusively in air defense aviation. The element of the MiG-25 is speed: in practice, it could rise almost like a rocket, confidently accelerating at an angle of attack of 45 degrees to 3000 km / h! At the same time, an air battle with a fighter involves subsonic or transonic speeds - otherwise the battle participants will simply lose sight of each other smile And at these speeds, the 25th is not the best option for aerobatics.


                      No, I don’t confuse! You are right, the purpose of the MiG-25 is certainly different, but it was even used as a bomber (although when it was created, the execution of strike missions was not part of its tasks), not to mention its frequent participation in air battles, including in close ones distances (where it was much inferior to light maneuverable fighters such as the American F-5 Freedom Fighter).
                      1. avia1991
                        avia1991 21 September 2015 23: 32 New
                        0
                        Quote: supertiger21
                        not to mention his frequent participation in air battles, including at close range

                        Well .. that means the plane fell into the wrong hands, and was busy with its own business - there is nothing to be surprised about the losses ..
                        I have a schoolmate flying at them. I admired all the time, but in a special way: I said that the plane "keeps it on alert all the time", you can relax only after taxiing to the parking lot. The aerodynamic quality near the ground is equivalent to the quality of an ax - and the slightest mistake in piloting could lead to an accident.
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 21 September 2015 23: 49 New
                        +1
                        Quote: avia1991
                        Well .. that means the plane fell into the wrong hands, and was busy with its own business - there is nothing to be surprised about the losses ..

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            3. gjv
              gjv 20 September 2015 19: 14 New
              +2
              Quote: veteran66
              Wow, only the Jews managed to bring down one

              Quote: Tanais
              When is this?

              Quote: voyaka uh
              One F-15 really received a missile from the Syrian pilot in the nozzle (it seems, after all, the MiG-23, the MiG-25), but the plane reached the airfield.

              Here on Wikipedia there is a description of these events. How far is it from the truth? request However, there are links to sources, as well as descriptions of the participation of MitG-25 in other conflicts.
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%93-25
              On February 13, 1981, the Syrian MiG-4 took off to intercept two Israeli scouts RF-25C. As the interceptor approached, the Phantoms turned back and used electronic warfare equipment. A minute later, due to a cloud of interference in the area of ​​the lower hemisphere, an F-15 fighter appeared (the MiG-25 had limitations in detection in the lower hemisphere). At this moment, the Syrian pilot received strong noise interference on the radio and he did not hear the command from the ground to the lapel. At the oncoming approach from a distance of 25 kilometers, the F-15 launched the AIM-7F rocket and shot down the MiG-25. So happened the first counter-missile attack in the history of air wars.
              On July 29, 1981, demonstrative flights were already performed by a single F-15, the other two were located out of sight of the Syrian radar. The “upper” F-15 was triggered by a pair of Syrian MiG-21s, at which time the MiG-25 pair went into an ambush - in the shaded area of ​​the Hokai military-industrial complex. F-15 "pecked" at a fake call. "Twenty-fifths" began to go into position for attack. However, the F-15, without changing course, suddenly switched to a decline, dragging the MiG-25 along with it. Opponents collided with each other, their marks on the screen merged, and then disappeared. Syrian pilot catapulted. The Syrian TsKP ordered the second MiG-25 to come closer to two other Needles. The Syrian captured one target at 25 km, launched the first missile at 18 km, the second missile at 11 km (on-board controls during decryption confirmed the hit of the first missile). Israeli pilot catapulted over the sea. Patrol boats picked up a life jacket and a bag of signaling equipment stored in the ejection seat. Israeli data loss is not confirmed. Soviet military expert V. Babich reports that after this successful battle, the Syrian command took the MiG-25 beyond the scope of military operations, explaining that there were no goals for them.
              On August 31, 1982, Israel stated that the calculation of the Hawk air defense missile system had been shot down by the Syrian MiG-25RB, but Syria had no flight-friendly reconnaissance MiG-1982RB until the end of 25; There is information about the loss of a double MiG-25 that day (possibly MiG-25U).
              Syrian MiG-25s regularly made reconnaissance flights on the border and over Israeli territory in the 90s. They also drove away Israeli fighters, which periodically flew over the Syrian border.
        2. Tanais
          Tanais 20 September 2015 12: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          So far, only talk ... In all its glory they do not show, and there are few of them .. Zhdems!

          So it’s not evening yet ...
          1. wk
            wk 20 September 2015 13: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: Tanais
            So it’s not evening yet ...

            the evening was yesterday .... according to the initial plans for the rearmament of the T50 was firmly to be put into service in 2015!
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          3. dyksi
            dyksi 20 September 2015 13: 34 New
            +8
            The T-50 has many problems, and as an interceptor it is inferior to the MiG-31, it cannot fully replace the MiG-31, the MiG team is developing a normal interceptor to replace the MiG-31, which is not covered by PR and speculation and does not devour the entire budget of the country. MiG-1.44 could fulfill the tasks of our high-speed interceptors, but it was hacked, so we have what we have, a Su-35 with an over-the-horizon radar, but with medium-range missiles and T-50, Sushki cannot replace the MiG-31, because they simply do not have such machines and, judging by the current models, they cannot create without ruining the country. But Mikoyan may have decades of experience and many conflicts behind him.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 20 September 2015 19: 08 New
              0
              1.44, like the T-50, do not claim to be Mig 31 laurels, because they do not reach the speed and range. Such a task was not posed. As a matter of fact, the Mig 31 does not replace the Su 27 and Mig 29. On the T-50 there will be a decent radar superior to the Mig 31 and on Sukhoi they test long-range air-to-air missiles comparable in range to Mig-31 weapons. And this means that the weapon complex will be worked out in the near future it will remain to make a glider and engine. If the very idea of ​​a long-range interceptor does not change, then the problem will probably be solved. All the necessary technology is there. I saw sketches of such an apparatus on Paralay; everything is painted popularly there, down to guns of the GSh-6-23 type.
              1. ferdiperdozzz
                ferdiperdozzz 20 September 2015 21: 23 New
                +2
                you compare warm to soft
                these are different aircraft
              2. Ladoga
                Ladoga 21 September 2015 00: 07 New
                +1
                ,, 1.44 like the T-50 do not pretend to laurels Mig 31, because they do not reach the speed and range. ,,
                Not quite so in range:
                Mig-31 Flight range, km practical 2150
                distillation 3300.
                T-50 Practical range:
                at subsonic cruising speed:
                with 63% of fuel: 2700 km
                with 100% of fuel: 4300 km
                with 2 PTB: 5500 km
            2. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 20 September 2015 19: 08 New
              0
              1.44, like the T-50, do not claim to be Mig 31 laurels, because they do not reach the speed and range. Such a task was not posed. As a matter of fact, the Mig 31 does not replace the Su 27 and Mig 29. On the T-50 there will be a decent radar superior to the Mig 31 and on Sukhoi they test long-range air-to-air missiles comparable in range to Mig-31 weapons. And this means that the weapon complex will be worked out in the near future it will remain to make a glider and engine. If the very idea of ​​a long-range interceptor does not change, then the problem will probably be solved. All the necessary technology is there. I saw sketches of such an apparatus on Paralay; everything is painted popularly there, down to guns of the GSh-6-23 type.
        3. Homo
          Homo 20 September 2015 14: 06 New
          +12
          Quote: MIKHAN
          So far, only talk ... In all its glory they do not show, and there are few of them .. Zhdems!

          Why are you so stubborn? The Americans are proud of every experiment (even unsuccessful) and scream to the whole world as the greatest achievement, and you speak of real Russian achievements as fairy tales, stories, myths (let’s wait for now ..., let’s see if ... etc. etc.). Proud of all his Russian! And now, and not later, someday! We need to be proud of the fact that our designers came up with what they did in the metal, what passed (flew, crawled) at least a meter! Not to mention what real achievement is! It's time to stop sprinkling ash on your head, tearing your hair off ... and consider yourself as backward and worthless !!!
          1. dyksi
            dyksi 20 September 2015 15: 54 New
            -6
            You have to be realistic, do you even know why we have lost purchases of many types of weapons and what put an end to the development of the Navy? All money has been invested in the creation of the T-50, Su-34, Su-35, Superjet, MS-21 and wide-body on the horizon. These projects cost the country many tens of billions of greenery. With this money, it was possible to develop and build a pair of aircraft carriers, a dozen destroyers and several hundred Su-30SM and MiG-29M / M2, restore the production of MiG-31, and now we simply do not have money for a sufficient purchase of Su-30SM and MiG-29M / M2, although war is knocking on us. By and large, there is nothing to be proud of yet, we have airplanes that are feverishly looking for a niche for military use, they have been publicized, they have built production lines, they just don’t really understand what they created and why it is needed. Su-35 has fuel tanks with a capacity of 11 tons, radar with a viewing range of 430 km., But the maximum launch range of its missiles is 70 km .. Its normal take-off weight is 25 tons, despite the fact that the aircraft has a dry weight of almost 20 tons., it means four tons of fuel are poured into it and a ton of weapons is suspended, do you think this is normal? In this case, he is a MiG-29-9.12 in his class, with good flight data, but who will run out of fuel very quickly, if intercepted, and if he manages to shoot down an enemy fighter, then there will not be enough fuel to continue the battle, or return home and it costs 120 million greens (this is a niche for cheap light, medium fighters), and the quantitative superiority of the West over fighters is terrible, more than five times and they have much more modern weapons.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 21 September 2015 01: 06 New
              +2
              Quote: dyksi
              Its normal take-off weight is 25 tons, while the dry weight of the aircraft is almost 20 tons.,

              Learn materiel ..
              Empty - 18400
              Normal take-off - 25700
              The difference is not 5 tons, as you say, but 7300. The difference is palpable, right? But there is also a reloading option - in which the aircraft feels quite comfortable:
              Maximum take-off weight: 34000 kg. This means that he can take 8 tons of weapons, and at the same time fill up almost 7 tons of kerosene!
              .. So what do you dislike about this car? what
            2. Ladoga
              Ladoga 21 September 2015 20: 58 New
              +1
              All ! dyksi no longer pour! He is already drunk!
          2. good_soul
            good_soul 21 September 2015 06: 19 New
            +1
            Absolutely agree!
      3. FID
        FID 20 September 2015 13: 34 New
        +5
        Quote: Tanais
        And T - 50, what is actually not a nest egg for you?

        I apologize, but this is the stash of the USSR ....
        1. gjv
          gjv 20 September 2015 19: 18 New
          0
          Quote: SSI
          this is the stash of the USSR ....

          But is the T-50 different from the Su-47?
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 20 September 2015 19: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: SSI
          I apologize, but this is the stash of the USSR ....

          Good evening, Sergey Ivanovich. Glad to see you in good health.
          The question is about "stash" ... In the American media, as well as the military, they are very seriously discussing work with us on the new interceptor. Moreover, not at the level of gossip, but precisely as what takes place. Our military and those who are silent on the subject and this is understandable. Work on the MIG-41 is underway, is it really a "stash" from the time of the USSR. Moreover, the Americans voiced the speed characteristics of this 4,5m aircraft. I am not sure that this is still the technology that was developed in the USSR.
          Sincerely. hi
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 21 September 2015 00: 32 New
            +2
            Quote: NEXUS
            I am not sure that these are still technologies that were developed in the USSR.

            In the Solovyov Design Bureau, an engine was developed for a promising interceptor.
            In the 91st, 2 prototypes were ready.
            As far as I know, they were put on needles, the state of the documentation is not known.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 21 September 2015 00: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: Wheel
              In the Solovyov Design Bureau, an engine was developed for a promising interceptor.
              In the 91st, 2 prototypes were ready.
              As far as I know, they were put on needles, the state of the documentation is not known.

              I don’t think that this is the basis for what is being developed now. The speed stated here is impressive, and in the 91st about hypersound, if anyone spoke, it applies to missiles, but not to an aircraft, let alone a combat vehicle ...
              1. Wheel
                Wheel 21 September 2015 01: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                I don’t think that this is the basis for what is being developed now. The speed stated here is impressive, and in the 91st about hypersound, if anyone spoke, it applies to missiles, but not to an aircraft, let alone a combat vehicle ...

                Now nothing is being developed ... no money is allocated ...
                Unfortunately, those technologies that really existed by the beginning of the 90s are now extremely difficult to implement in Russia.
                As an example, heat-resistant alloys using rhenium, high-strength high-temperature ceramics are an unattainable dream of current developers. And they really were.
                Realistically considered draft designs of engines on 4M.
              2. avia1991
                avia1991 22 September 2015 00: 16 New
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Here the speed is stated impressive, and in the 91st about hypersound, if anyone spoke, it is applicable to missiles, but not to LA

                Work on hypersonic aircraft in the USSR began in the early 50's. Of course, there were no real aircraft then - but already in the 60s a very detailed picture of the processes in the ramjet and the actual flight parameters, including speed ones, was compiled. And then nobody just thought about hypersound for missiles: the task was to create precisely a manned aircraft. It is only relatively recently that they began to talk about hypersonic missiles, as a possible alternative to ballistic.
                In the USSR, as far as I know, test flights with ramjet apparatuses were also carried out. Then it was Sov. Secret, I don’t think that now something has changed.
      4. BMP-2
        BMP-2 20 September 2015 13: 41 New
        +9
        Another aircraft from the BI list is the MiG-31. According to him, “Foxhound - a fourth-generation supersonic fighter-interceptor of long range, can reach speeds of up to 2600 km / h without missiles”


        Did the writers not mess up anything for an hour? The MiG-31 has a cruising speed of 2500, while the maximum is 3000!
      5. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut 20 September 2015 18: 36 New
        0
        Do not change MIG. It is necessary to produce at least two models, and at least five (!) KB to participate in the competition. When there is competition, the work is done faster, the results are better, ...
        Imagine a great athlete who has no one to compete with? so KB - must live in suspense.
      6. ferdiperdozzz
        ferdiperdozzz 20 September 2015 21: 16 New
        0
        This is a different class aircraft.
      7. Wheel
        Wheel 21 September 2015 00: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Tanais
        And T - 50, than to you, actually, not a nest egg? In all cases, it promises to be multifunctional, and some modification of it, apparently, will not only be able to replace the MiG - 31 at the combat post, but also overshadow its fame.

        Alas and ah!
        Tasks for the MiG-31 T-50 can not perform in principle.
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        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 21 September 2015 08: 11 New
          +1
          You explain which of the tasks the T-50 can not perform? except for a long flight at a speed of 2500 km / h?
    2. Esso
      Esso 20 September 2015 18: 17 New
      +1
      Of course there is! Http: //bastion-opk.ru/mig-41/
    3. Wheel
      Wheel 21 September 2015 00: 10 New
      -1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I hope there is nest in our defense industry?

      There is nothing.
      No engine - no plane.
      And engines are not expected.
  2. armageddon
    armageddon 20 September 2015 11: 27 New
    +17
    Hmm ... Belenko Judas and Judah without question ... But damn it in 91 ... For some reason, they became heroes ... A trust can burst only from the inside ... (O. Henry)
  3. Sweles
    Sweles 20 September 2015 12: 03 New
    +2
    the aircraft is good and has, as they say, a reserve for modernization, firstly engines, new technologies can help make engines more resource-durable, and more economical. New coatings can reduce air resistance and, accordingly, reduce overall fuel consumption, new materials, such as titanium, composites, which we have, can really make the construction easier, well, new weapons and electronics can make the plane an even more formidable fighter of the sky and now a new MIG .. .
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 20 September 2015 13: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Sveles
      new materials like titanium

      Dear titanium has long been used in aircraft manufacturing. For example, the T-4 (Su-100, weaving) the first flight in 1972 was almost entirely made of titanium.
      1. pv1005
        pv1005 20 September 2015 13: 48 New
        +1
        Well, again, someone else’s finger stuck in the button.
        The T-4 was largely an innovative aircraft - a body using titanium alloys, the latest electronics, new control principles ...

        almost
        Morphological and syntactic properties
        nearly
        Adverb, definitive, measures and degrees; immutable.
        Root: -almost-.
        Semantic properties
        Value
        almost small, very close to anything
  4. Bongo
    Bongo 20 September 2015 12: 20 New
    +20
    “The USA recognized that the MiG-25 - highly maneuverable fighter, whose increased mobility in the air is largely due to the size of the wings, ”said the portal.
    Comrades, have you carefully read this? MiG-25 highly maneuverable fighter? wassat
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 20 September 2015 12: 51 New
      +9
      Quote: Bongo
      “The USA recognized that the MiG-25 - highly maneuverable fighter, whose increased mobility in the air is largely due to the size of the wings, ”said the portal.
      Comrades, have you carefully read this? MiG-25 highly maneuverable fighter? wassat

      They compared him with their flying axes of that time ...
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 20 September 2015 12: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: PENZYAC
        They compared him with their flying axes of that time ...

        The "ax" in the air defense slang is KR BGM-109 Tomahawk. How can they be compared? If you are talking about manned flying vehicles, then I would like to know what kind of type are you talking about? I fixed the minus, because not a supporter of cons at all.
    2. family tree
      family tree 20 September 2015 12: 57 New
      +3
      Quote: Bongo
      Comrades, have you carefully read this? MiG-25 highly maneuverable fighter?

      Their sphincter shrank from fear laughing
      Maneuver, in three swoops, what’s there in the anti-load, will return home what
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 20 September 2015 13: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: perepilka
        Maneuver, in three swoops, what’s there in the anti-load, will return home

        And do you know what radius of the MiG-25 turn at maximum speed?
        1. family tree
          family tree 20 September 2015 18: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: Bongo
          And do you know what radius of the MiG-25 turn at maximum speed?

          Otkel? Minesweeper, if Cho, well, and an officer in the guidance of the air defense missile system-125, partisan unfinished repeat
          Forgive the old people from Savvatiya, they have this dazzling one, stood in front of the DOP what
        2. gjv
          gjv 20 September 2015 19: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Bongo
          And do you know what radius of the MiG-25 turn at maximum speed?

          Of course I don’t know. Where from? However, I guess that 60-70 km.
          Apparently they were compared not with “axes” but with “blackbirds” in which the turning radius was 110-150 km. recourse
  5. demo
    demo 20 September 2015 14: 28 New
    +3
    The "reward" found its "hero."
    Accident in the USA with a fatal outcome.
  6. andrewkor
    andrewkor 20 September 2015 14: 46 New
    +1
    hit the states in a car crash!
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 20 September 2015 17: 58 New
      0
      Quote: andrewkor
      hit the states in a car crash!

      Who hit that? What kind of hero?
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 20 September 2015 19: 37 New
        0
        It's about Belenko, the traitor pilot.
  7. vodolaz
    vodolaz 20 September 2015 15: 16 New
    0
    The MiG-25 still impresses me.
  8. Aljavad
    Aljavad 21 September 2015 02: 28 New
    +1
    Unlike the experimental American X-15, our MiG-25 and MiG-31 are real.


    And more than that. The serial SR-71 required pre- and post-flight maintenance as a spaceship, plus a mandatory hangar. And MiGs - and they hibernated in the open parking lot, and the Sahara did not cost them much ... Aircraft soldier! And besides the interceptor, there is also a scout and a bomber even.
    1. Falcon
      Falcon 21 September 2015 11: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Aljavad
      Unlike the experimental American X-15, our MiG-25 and MiG-31 are real.


      And more than that. The serial SR-71 required pre- and post-flight maintenance as a spaceship, plus a mandatory hangar. And MiGs - and they hibernated in the open parking lot, and the Sahara did not cost them much ... Aircraft soldier! And besides the interceptor, there is also a scout and a bomber even.


      A bit incomplete information. SR-71 aircraft of a different class and level.
      Only the SR-71 could perform all the time in high supersonic flight. Active cooling of the body with fuel in flight. Complex coating and sealing of tanks only after supersonic heating, special fuel. All this required complex maintenance and a special hangar.

      It is impossible to fully compare the flight characteristics of the MIG-25/31 with the SR-71. Migi reached high speed only for a short time, because for a long time the structure did not allow overheating.
      1. hrych
        hrych 21 September 2015 20: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Falcon
        Migi reached high speed only for a short time

        What was enough for a potential interception of the same "thrush". And so the SR-71 is a completely different class and level, i.e. it’s just a flying coffin, even though there were thirty of them built upright, and they were exploited until 1998, but it’s completely impossible to call it a successful project, his whole story is continuous agony and logically ended ingloriously. The tasks entrusted to him did not materialize at all, he could only stupidly fly up to the border, the same U-2, although he could shoot missiles in Cuba ... but this one was not famous for anything except self-destruction. If created for the sake of speed records, it’s too expensive for that. A dead end machine and it’s not worth it to sing diferemba. Mig 31 released half a thousand, Mig-25 more than a thousand, reliable and unsurpassed machines, the 31st is relevant in the 21st century, except for narrow-intelligence targets and interceptors, and against the Kyrgyz Republic, and against low-orbit satellites, and as a carrier of anti-ship weapons, etc. . etc. Correctly with a completely different class and level ...
        1. hrych
          hrych 21 September 2015 20: 37 New
          +1
          And the story of "Thrush" she is such a mnooooogo text:
          In the winter of 1965-66 the SR-71 program suffered its first loss: on January 25, a third experienced intelligence officer crashed. Due to a failure of the air intake control system, the aircraft ... January 10, 1966 had to write off the first prototype SR-71 ... all six tire wheels of the main landing gear burst simultaneously . Wheel disks, carving sheaves of sparks, were crossed out along the runway, wheel hubs made of magnesium alloy ignited from sparks. The plane stopped only when it slipped the entire runway and the nose landing gear was buried in the ground of a dried lake ... In the summer of 1966, the fifth prototype “took off” on takeoff: like in the January case, the wheel hubs caught fire from sparks, and then the plane itself . Another serious accident occurred on April 13, 1967: SR-71 with tail number “17” crashed near Las Vegas, both crew members (officers of the 9th wing) successfully ejected. The reason was again related to the operation of the power plant. On November 25, 1967, the 16th constructed aircraft, also piloted by the Air Force crew, crashed in Nevada. The crew in the night flight incorrectly read the indications of the horizon and lost orientation in space. The last accident during flight tests occurred on December 18, 1969 ... The cause of the clap or explosion remained unclear. The likely cause of the disaster, most likely again associated with the operation of the air intake. By the end of 1967, Lockheed delivered the last, 31st ordered SR-71 scout to the Air Force; their production line was mothballed. Perhaps this was not worth doing, as a series of disasters and incidents with scouts continued. Basically, planes piloted by combatant pilots “crashed” (by this time the SR-71 was already in service with the 9th strategic reconnaissance air wing). Training SR-71B crashed on January 11, 1968. An experienced pilot, commander of the 99th squadron, took the cadet on his third reconnaissance flight. Already on the way home, the generator failed; the battery allowed the aircraft systems to work for 30 minutes, but this was not enough - SR crashed 12 kilometers north of the base. Aircraft No. 11 was damaged July 29, 1968 from a fire of the right engine, which occurred in flight at a speed of M = 2,88 and an altitude of 29 m. An experienced pilot noticed a burning warning light in time, immediately turned off the engine and managed to return to the airfield. In October 732, tire covers burst on take-off, pieces of a disk pierced the fuel tank, and a fire started. Uncontrolled aircraft rolled out of the strip, the crew ejected, but only the operator managed to survive. April 1968, 11 another fire - on the fifth SR-1969. All three of these aircraft had to be written off ... Finally, on June 71, 17, the SR-1970 collided with the KC-71Q tanker over the state of New Mexico, the scout crashed, and Boeing managed to hobble to its base.
        2. Falcon
          Falcon 21 September 2015 21: 36 New
          0
          Quote: hrych
          What was enough for a potential interception of the same "thrush". And so the SR-71 is a completely different class and level, i.e. it’s just a flying coffin, even though there were thirty of them built upright, and they were exploited until 1998, but it’s completely impossible to call it a successful project, his whole story is continuous agony and logically ended ingloriously.


          Well then, depending on what courses to intercept and at what range. Theoretically, the MIG-25 was not so easy to intercept the thrush. The speeds are about the same. The maximum speed of the thrush is greater, and the time is much longer.

          Yes, I do not compare them. Of course, the meaning of the existence of Droz disappeared with the MIG-25, and the development of air defense.

          Nobody sings praises to him, he’s just unique in his own sense.
  • Irokez
    Irokez 20 September 2015 11: 06 New
    -2
    And then. We have always been the most. Everywhere we initiators and one of the leaders spit, and if somewhere we were pressed, then looking at who is so smart there, again, you come from Russia, that is, Russian.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 20 September 2015 11: 12 New
      -5
      Quote: Irokez
      native of Russia, that is, Russian.


      Pathos, but ... frank untruth. To put it mildly.
      However, I think you yourself know this, the purpose of the "commentary" is to collect an armful of "pluses."
      1. veteran66
        veteran66 20 September 2015 12: 30 New
        +4
        Quote: Haettenschweiler
        You yourself know this, the purpose of the “commentary” is to collect an armful of “pluses”.

        for sure !! And also give out minuses if the opponent did not have time to shout "Urya !!"
    2. Karabanov
      Karabanov 20 September 2015 11: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: Irokez
      And then. We have always been the most.
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 20 September 2015 13: 38 New
        0
        In the literal sense of the phrase - Or not.
    3. Sweles
      Sweles 20 September 2015 11: 54 New
      +13
      Quote: Irokez
      And then. We have always been the most. Everywhere we initiators and one of the leaders spit, and if somewhere we were pressed, then looking at who is so smart there, again, you come from Russia, that is, Russian.


      Well, for example, who would know an engineer Lutsky? But it was he who stood at the origins of the famous Mercedes-Daimler-Benz company, it was Lutskiy who made the first motor for the company and even, for some time, the company was called Daimler-Lutsk, but the Germans quickly threw the name of the glorious Russian engineer out of the name and his memory turned out to be erased.
      And the engineer Yurkevich, who first invented and built the so-called round stem for ships, his liner Normandy took prizes for speed in the Atlantic, it’s quite simple to prove it, but Ponyatov is the first video recorder, Lodygin is a lamp — not Edison, Mozhaisky -Airplane, Popov-radio, Pentkovsky-Pentium is offhand, but you can list many more Russian surnames-discoverers ...
      1. Irokez
        Irokez 20 September 2015 13: 30 New
        +8
        Here are the discoverers.
        The mentality and mentality of the Rus, Slavs, and their kindred peoples is another more inquisitive in navigating and improving. The West and Asia take it only because on the basis of some knowledge it begins to create massively practical products from this knowledge. And we are no longer very interested in doing this en masse, to do something because the thought is not worth it and we want something new and improved.
        They even give hands to us, so that they do not invent anything new or think ahead because we cannot fully master what we have already invented.
        Indeed, probably the truth is “Woe from Wit”, but I think it’s normal, you won’t get lost with these.
        And how many interesting ideas were taken abroad and patented from just reading our magazines: Young Technician, Model Designer, Youth Technique and so on, and after all, we printed everything regardless of the fact that someone was making money and laughing above us. But the main thing in life is not money, but development, intellect, knowledge, and whoever does not possess it parasitizes on smart people.
        It is clear that Kulibins come across also abroad, but on average the Slavic peoples, Arias, and so on (white race) are a cut above the other pure races (IMHO) in this aspect. Even the language spoken by the people matters. But do not belittle other races (this already smells of fascism) because each race has something higher and something lower in development. And all together create humanity strong precisely by the variety of races and their abilities.
        You can even put 100500 minuses, but if you do not see the obvious, then this is degradation and stupidity, bias.
        After all, we are spiritually higher than the all-knowing and all-intellectual west, and spirituality is higher than ingenuity and is it not the source of all ideas and rationality, ethics, humanity?
      2. FID
        FID 20 September 2015 13: 39 New
        +11
        Quote: Sveles
        Ponyatov — the first video recorder, Lodygin — a light bulb — not Edison, Mozhaisky — an airplane, Popov-radio, Pentkovsky — a pentium — it's a snap, and you can list many more Russian names of discoverers ..

        And as there is further with Peter the Great: "And the Germans will ask about the X-ray not to stutter, I boyar ... I see through and through" .....
      3. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 20 September 2015 18: 55 New
        +2
        Well, yes, directly Daimler-Lutsk and Kharlamov and Davydov, instead of Harley-Davidson ...
        At least check the facts. And it’s funny to read.
        PS I do not understand plus nonsense! Illiteracy drives?
  • Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 20 September 2015 11: 11 New
    +2
    I wonder what the cruising and maximum speed of the T-50 will be.
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 20 September 2015 11: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: Haettenschweiler
      I wonder what the cruising and maximum speed of the T-50 will be.

      Do you really or so !?
      If for real, then who will tell you, and if so, 2865km / h.
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 20 September 2015 11: 19 New
        -8
        Quote: Oleg147741
        If for real, then who will tell you, and if so, 2865km / h.


        I wonder what the speed will be in production models.
        What is being said now is, in general, expectations and promises. Serial release changes a lot. And the engines are still “being finalized with a file”. So ... we'll see.
    2. figwam
      figwam 20 September 2015 11: 35 New
      +8
      Another aircraft from the BI list is the MiG-31. According to him, "Foxhound - a fourth-generation supersonic fighter-interceptor of long range, can reach speeds of up to 2600 km / h without missiles."

      The MIG-31 has a speed of m = 2.82, which is more than 3000 km / h
      1. sandrmur76
        sandrmur76 20 September 2015 12: 40 New
        +4
        So I was surprised by the difference in speed of the Mig-25 and Mig-31 what Mig-31 is newer than the 25th and the speed is lower request
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 20 September 2015 18: 34 New
          +1
          Mig-31 is newer than the 25th and the speed is lower,
          they have different tasks. 31st does not need the speed of the 25th.
  • oberon 1
    oberon 1 20 September 2015 11: 15 New
    +16
    Aircraft MIG-25 and MIG-31 are actually existing and produced in huge quantities. And all the variations of the project x are purely experimental.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 20 September 2015 11: 27 New
      +13
      Just like invisibility projects. They consider them invisible, but our air defense systems do not ... yes
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 20 September 2015 12: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: yuriy55
        Just like invisibility projects. They consider them invisible, but our air defense systems do not ... yes

        So after all, they check the “invisibility” with their air defense means, and not ours. Hence the invisibility, for their ...
        Advertising is America's main achievement (Hollywood is also advertising) ...
        1. andj61
          andj61 20 September 2015 19: 23 New
          0
          Quote: PENZYAC
          Quote: yuriy55
          Just like invisibility projects. They consider them invisible, but our air defense systems do not ... yes

          So after all, they check the “invisibility” with their air defense means, and not ours. Hence the invisibility, for their ...
          Advertising is America's main achievement (Hollywood is also advertising) ...

          Once, about 10-15 years ago, the information flashed that ours had taken advantage of Belenko’s betrayal, and also leaked misinformation to US spies who worked “under control” about the state and development of our radars. As a result, our "invisibles" are very well seen by our radars. bully
      2. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 20 September 2015 17: 02 New
        0
        They must be invisible to aircraft radars.
    2. hrych
      hrych 20 September 2015 12: 13 New
      +9
      It is worth noting that the main reason that their cars remained experimental prototypes is the adoption of the MiG-25, including the closure of the Valkyrie project. Plus, of course, problems with materials at the speed limit, in particular, the vaunted America smuggled Soviet titanium for the construction of the SR-71 (Blackbird). One devil after reaching the maximum speed, the airframe was irreversibly deformed, but our engineers coped with this problem, both with advanced titanium processing technology and with steel ...
      And the Mig-31, stupidly in the ranks, and its new radar "Barrier", is not inferior to the "Irbis" and sees up to 400 km, which belay twice as far F-22 radar ...
      Phantom in general in this rating does not belong ...
      1. good_soul
        good_soul 21 September 2015 06: 37 New
        +1
        That's right. After the creation of the MiG-25, the use of SR-71 was pointless.
  • plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 20 September 2015 11: 31 New
    +13
    The fastest .. not the fastest ... really the MiG-25 is a very formidable weapon of its time, Israel perfectly remembered his visits. About the MiG-31 just talk and do not ... worthy of respect and admiration ...
  • starshina pv
    starshina pv 20 September 2015 11: 32 New
    -17
    how much? Mig-31 even, in my opinion, hundreds are not.
    1. oberon 1
      oberon 1 20 September 2015 11: 41 New
      +9
      Mig -31 519 units produced
    2. Sura
      Sura 20 September 2015 11: 41 New
      0
      Here, for everyone, it says https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D0%93-31
    3. supertiger21
      supertiger21 20 September 2015 12: 26 New
      0
      Quote: starshina pv
      how much? Mig-31 even, in my opinion, hundreds are not.


      In Russia, if I am not mistaken, approximately 280-310 units of MiG-31. Kazakhstan has less, as I remember somewhere 50 units.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 20 September 2015 12: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: supertiger21
        In Russia, if I am not mistaken, approximately 280-310 units of MiG-31. Kazakhstan has less, as I remember somewhere 50 units.

        In fact, there are about a hundred flying, the rest require repair and modernization, and some are completely subject to decommissioning. In Kazakhstan, near Karaganda, about 30 MiG-31, but less than half fly.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 20 September 2015 21: 19 New
          +3
          There were 44 cars in the Republic of Kazakhstan, some of them crashed (in my memory, 2 cars).
          In the last 4 years, our media has reported about 3 Kazakhstan MiG-31s ​​that have undergone repairs in Russia, and always on New Year's Eve. Just do not understand repair with modernization or just repair. So 12 cars on the go should be. By the way, and since 2011. The Semipalatinsk Tank Repair Plant sits at the state defense order, there are already 600 people there. work.
          Note that all any military combat aircraft have a speed of no more than 2,5M, because their design based on aluminum alloys does not withstand such a design. load at speed more than 2,5M - and the MiG-25 (31) is titanium-steel (titanium is not more than 17%, in my opinion). Speed ​​is limited by the "flashlight" and rubber products. And another feature, of course, the size of the headlamps, which, it seems to me, when upgrading to the MiG-31 we can become unsurpassed (size, diameter in the bow is the largest of all fighters) in terms of detection range and power. hi
  • Xocelolprox
    Xocelolprox 20 September 2015 11: 38 New
    +10
    Experimental models are also important, with their help, developments are created for future production models. Remember our su-47, which exists in a single copy, but how many experiments and tests have been carried out on it.
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 20 September 2015 14: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Xocelolprox
      Remember our su-47

      They didn’t include him there, therefore, we won’t consider experimental models, and besides, experimental models were developed for orbital stations.
  • family tree
    family tree 20 September 2015 11: 39 New
    +11
    No, the 25th legend! he was not only aimed at interception, but also a breakthrough in air defense. The welded casing is made of heat-resistant steel, yes ... In technologists, the boles swelled, during the sculpting of this miracle what
    1. Genry
      Genry 20 September 2015 11: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: perepilka
      Welded body made of heat resistant steel, yes ..

      ... heat resistant and STAINLESS steel ...
      1. family tree
        family tree 20 September 2015 11: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Genry
        ... heat resistant and STAINLESS steel ...

        There, in this alloy, from steel then (iron + carbon) what Magnet, does not react at all, see from there and went the bike about the titanium fuselage what
    2. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 20 September 2015 14: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: perepilka
      In technologists, the Bosko swelled up while sculpting this miracle.

      And to whom it would be easy if there weren’t swelling, there wouldn’t be a miracle!
  • Support
    Support 20 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +3
    And what are all the same handsome and MiG-25 and MiG-31 .....
    1. good_soul
      good_soul 21 September 2015 06: 43 New
      0
      And during the after-flight inspection, the technician of the aircraft enters the air intake almost without bending!
  • tomket
    tomket 20 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +6
    Another stupid list. I wonder why the Phantom entered the list and the MiG-23 did not enter the 2500km / h? Or why didn’t the Su-27 enter with 2500km / h?
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 20 September 2015 12: 01 New
      +7
      All ratings compiled by Americans are primarily laudatory in relation to their technology ... Take any offhand ...
    2. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 20 September 2015 14: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: tomket
      Or why didn’t the Su-27 enter with 2500km / h?

      Because this is an Amer list. If he were an honest list, Amer’s would not have gotten there at all.
  • Arandir
    Arandir 20 September 2015 11: 54 New
    +5
    There will be more, there will be a holiday on our street. And space fighters and giant ekranoplanes, and super-giant airships. And one of the most important tasks is the restoration of the civil aviation industry. For the gigantic sizes of Russia, cars and railways will not tune in. Mobility of the population is the first condition for economic growth and development. How many wonderful projects are slaughtered. ECIP is very interesting. I would like to see this flying basin, which should not fly, but it flies. The genius of Russian engineers in the 90s was cut off by wings, and they again grow back like Samson’s hair. Damned Dalil Gorbachev.
  • Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 20 September 2015 11: 56 New
    +3
    Just add water...
  • roskot
    roskot 20 September 2015 11: 57 New
    +4
    MIG-31 all “Put into operation in 1981. The Soviet MiG-31 is still one of the fastest fighters in the history of modifications, more than 400 pieces have been produced.
  • staryivoin
    staryivoin 20 September 2015 12: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: yuriy55
    Unlike the experimental American X-15, our MiG-25 and MiG-31 are real. It is a pity that Belenko surpassed the MiG-25 ... Judah.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iowL96Dm6hM


    Judah received his time. And the mattress country did not save him !!!
    Of course, 25 had to be upgraded after that. But it turned out no worse, that's for sure.
  • Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 20 September 2015 12: 24 New
    +4
    Tomcat (2) RU Today, 11:52 AM
    Another stupid list. I wonder why the Phantom entered the list and the MiG-23 did not enter the 2500km / h? Or why didn’t the Su-27 enter with 2500km / h? ”
    Everything is very simple, all these reviews are built on the principle ... our mother is the best ... or as in the joke about a tour of the zoo ... our crocodile, as we want and measure ...
    The price of these reviews and comparisons is most often broken pennies. Any military equipment is a set of measures and weapons, because "the equipment is in the hands of a savage, a lot of scrap metal." Therefore ... to study military affairs in the present way ... and not relax the bread. And then the "PARTNERS" will not be tempted to take this opportunity.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 20 September 2015 12: 34 New
    +8
    In my opinion, “Blackbird” had the designation SR-71. This strategic scout was also produced in series, and in terms of speed, it was the leader, and in the article, there was nothing but the wrong name. I’m not an American agent, but in the article we are talking about high-speed planes- so let's put the emphasis. hi
    1. marshes
      marshes 20 September 2015 13: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      Blackbird

      Yes, it’s somehow cunning. A titanium case, with temperature tolerances, special fuel when pouring from all the slots is pouring. Plus, there is a service restriction, does the memory not change there, you need to use a special tool, without cadmium?
      If not correct.
  • Andrei Petrov
    Andrei Petrov 20 September 2015 12: 41 New
    +9
    X-15 does not start from the ground, but from another plane. It is actually a rocket. Americans are cheating in such ratings.
  • marshes
    marshes 20 September 2015 12: 48 New
    +2
    Good planes.
    Due to health reasons, his father couldn’t fly at 25, and before that he had visited him in Iran, Afghanistan was catching Pakistan.
    And the fig copy, F-15, began to “fold” over time. Power structures could not withstand time and loads.
    Forgive me, our Israeli friends. There is a documentary film there, the Americans themselves recognize.
    About F-15. Steel birds ... the first series ... http: //onlainfilm.ucoz.ua/load/stalnye_pticy_smotret_onlajn/12-1-0-27923
    ? rewind = 3
  • lilian
    lilian 20 September 2015 12: 56 New
    +3
    If the X-15 is on the list, then it can be countered with the Buran spacecraft. Wings are, lands on the chassis. What is not a plane?
  • Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 20 September 2015 13: 11 New
    +4
    Quote: fa2998
    In my opinion, “Blackbird” had the designation SR-71. This strategic scout was also produced in series, and in terms of speed, it was the leader, and in the article, there was nothing but the wrong name. I’m not an American agent, but in the article we are talking about high-speed planes- so let's put the emphasis. hi

    I don’t understand why they minus it? Everything is written correctly, but SR-71 is no longer flying.
    Of the entire list, only the MIG-21-31 and SR-71 could fly at super-cruising speed for a long time at supersonic sound, and the rest could only briefly gain it.
  • iouris
    iouris 20 September 2015 14: 39 New
    +5
    Gag.
    It was rumored that MiG-25RB scouts (reconnaissance version with powerful A-70 cameras) flew over the FRG and France with impunity in the 70s. The fighters didn’t catch them, the Hawk missiles had height limits, and the Nike-Hercules missiles had angular tracking speeds. On all notes of protest, TASS is authorized to declare that Soviet planes did not violate the airspace of France. Probably, planes took off from air bases in Algeria and the GDR.
    When flying at large numbers of M, the DC generators were cooled with an alcohol-water mixture (50% water). The flow rate seems to be 100 l / min.
    From the use of this technique in the Air Force, the harmful consequences were very serious. Some techies drank themselves in a matter of months.
    The specific fuel consumption (from memory) of the MiG-25 vs F-4 is 2,36 vs 0,78. So the plane is not in vain earned the nickname "kerosene fighter."
    However, in general, these shortcomings are not significant, therefore, the overall rating of the aircraft is “outstanding”.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 20 September 2015 17: 44 New
      +1
      When flying at large numbers of M, the DC generators were cooled with an alcohol-water mixture (50% water). The flow rate seems to be 100 l / min.


      ... But there was another wonderful person in the Mikoyanov family: aircraft designer Artem Mikoyan. Its heavy interceptor, the MiG-25, became the most coveted aircraft in the Air Force and Air Defense Aviation. Depending on the modification, they were poured into the cooling and anti-icing systems up to 290 liters of alcohol and alcohol-water mixture. The generators cooled, a lot of alcohol was consumed by the jamming station.
      (i.e. consumption of alcohol mixture 100 l / min - an error !!!)

      It is curious that this MiG was created to intercept the promising American Valkyrie bomber, but the Americans did not create the Valkyrie. The ultra-fast MiG had virtually no worthy goal, but it was accepted into service anyway. From 1967 and 1985, 1100 MiG-25s were assembled at the Gorky Aircraft Plant.

      Alcohol ("awl", "massandra", "sword", etc.) was able to save in flight and drink on the ground. But modern aircraft are almost "non-alcoholic".
      http://www.rg.ru/2011/09/01/vodka.html
      1. good_soul
        good_soul 21 September 2015 06: 59 New
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        Ever tried alcohol drained from the system? It is the color of moonstone and the taste of rubber pipes. So, they simply added to the system to a minimum and left in the group. Techies.
  • tinibar
    tinibar 20 September 2015 16: 22 New
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    Quote: supertiger21
    MiG-25 legendary plane! This interceptor went through almost all the major conflicts of the second half of the 20th century, beginning with the Arab-Israeli wars and conflicts, ending with the Iraq-Iran war and the Gulf War. On account of the victims of the MiG-25 aces, there are such famous American fighters as F-5, F-4, F / A-18 and even F-15 according to a number of Syrian sources. The 25th is also known for having managed to completely fly over Israeli airspace several times, while each time having managed to avoid attacks by Mirage III and F-4 Phantom fighters and also Hawk air defense systems.

    And he managed to cross all Europe with impunity during a reconnaissance flight and a few years ago (and maybe even now) to remain in service as a reconnaissance modification ...
  • tinibar
    tinibar 20 September 2015 16: 31 New
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    Quote: tomket
    Another stupid list. I wonder why the Phantom entered the list and the MiG-23 did not enter the 2500km / h? Or why didn’t the Su-27 enter with 2500km / h?

    And why didn’t the one hundredth T-4 enter? So, they blurted out a little list without hesitation ...
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 20 September 2015 16: 40 New
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    Pilot in the rating stuck. And ours are serial! They only had Blackbird from the “normal” ones, but with rocket engines in general, how did they get on the list?
  • tlauicol
    tlauicol 20 September 2015 16: 46 New
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    Is it interesting why Blackbird was taken out of service? After all, no MiG could intercept him
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 20 September 2015 17: 53 New
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      Here:
      http://www.minimodelism.ru/models/modelist-samolet-razvedchik-sr-71blackbird-ble
      kberd.html


      Just one fact:
      Fuel mass: 46180 kg !!! Almost a railway tank yes
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 20 September 2015 18: 14 New
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        Just could intercept. That's why they took it off. He ceased to be invulnerable. By maximum speed, the SR-71 exceeded (slightly) the 25th, but the rocket anyway - faster. Yes, at such a speed, just “shake” a close gap, and only the nuts will fly to the ground. After all, the speed of the aircraft is comparable to the speed of a bullet at the muzzle of a powerful rifle.
    2. andj61
      andj61 20 September 2015 19: 38 New
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      Quote: Tlauicol
      Is it interesting why Blackbird was taken out of service? After all, no MiG could intercept him

      Why couldn’t they? They intercepted regularly in the 80s, he often flew twice a week from a British base, passed along the border, turned around at Novaya Zemlya and walked back. From the beginning of the 80s, they also drove the Mig-31 there - he intercepted them. True, you yourself understand, for this he does not need to come close at all. In addition, when flying along the border, the SR-71 was constantly accompanied by ground-based air defense systems, and the S-200 were ready to fire in case of violation of the border. Each span of the SR-71 is a combat alert with all the consequences.
      And they took them out of service because they had exhausted their resources - they did it in the 60s, by the 90s the resource had run out, in 98 they had been taken out of service.
      1. iouris
        iouris 20 September 2015 21: 04 New
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        Resource, of course. And why is it needed today when everyone sells “iPhones”, and for some it’s so easy to give ...
    3. Aljavad
      Aljavad 21 September 2015 03: 01 New
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      tlauikol Yesterday, 16:46 New
      Is it interesting why Blackbird was taken out of service? After all, no MiG could intercept him


      As always - for a combination of reasons. Someone decided that satellites can do everything and the plane is out of date. (During the Desert Storm, this “someone” was heavily blamed for the stupid decision). The thrush was terribly expensive to maintain, even for the wealthy staffers. And then, all the drones were waiting. So we cleaned the clearing for future orders.
    4. good_soul
      good_soul 21 September 2015 07: 02 New
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      Just because of the MiG-25 and removed - lost the meaning.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 21 September 2015 08: 16 New
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    The thrush was removed due to the "Piece", the high cost of maintenance and the development of air defense of the Soviet Union. My friend served in the air defense, somewhere near Murmansk, on the S-200, they tracked SR-71 flights from Norway. So these planes took control even when taxiing to the runway. But U-2 still lives and is used.
  • Romanenko
    Romanenko 22 September 2015 14: 22 New
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    That is, it was only our aircraft manufacturers who actually managed to achieve speeds of 3000 and higher on a mass production machine, but it’s not worth talking seriously about the massiveness and seriality of the Blackbird, there is only one preparation for the flight and the flight itself is akin to launching the Shuttle.
    And MiGs are not just mass-produced, but also really massive aircraft, and for operational use.
    As they say a trifle, but damn nice !!!
  • Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 23 September 2015 00: 30 New
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    How fast the planes did in the 60s. What are the Americans, what is the USSR. Three years and the plane is ready ...
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