KRET is preparing a major upgrade of the Su-30CM, in which it intends to use the developments on the PAK FA

Concern Radioelectronic Technologies, in preparation for the modernization of the Su-30CM, plans to use the technological background obtained when building the PAN FA 5 generation aircraft, reports RIA News a message from the deputy general director of the enterprise, Vladimir Mikheev.


Su-30 Indian Air Force

“Taking into account the signed contracts, Su-30CM and its export modification Su-30МКИ to 2020 will be one of the most numerous aircraft of the Air Force and Navy of Russia, as well as the armed forces of India, Algeria, Kazakhstan, Angola. That is why now we are preparing solutions for a serious modernization of these machines ",
explained Mikheev.

He said that "work is underway to improve the characteristics of the aircraft’s radar system, its optical-electronic sighting and navigation systems, and navigation systems."

“We plan to use the technological background obtained in the course of R & D on the creation of the PAK FA,” added the deputy head of KRET.

He noted that the work on the modernization of the machine will be carried out "in accordance with the recommendations of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and suggest an increase in the capabilities of the avionics (airborne electronic equipment), radar and sighting system."

Help Agency: “KRET enterprises produce for Su-30CM more than 60% avionics. One of the developments of the concern, which allows fighters to orient themselves in space even in the absence of a signal from airborne, land-based and sea-based navigation systems, is the BINS-SPXNNXX inertial navigation system. ”
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  1. ziqzaq 19 September 2015 09: 16 New
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    Normul .. Well done!
    1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 09: 26 New
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      All the Su-27 family cars are amazing, but why was it necessary to immediately purchase 4 modifications of a heavy fighter? Su-30SM, Su-30M2, Su-34 and Su-35S in my opinion a little "vinaigrette" is obtained. At the same time, MiGs were not purchased properly, limiting themselves to "two or three" MiG-29SMT and MiG-29K. It’s good that Poghosyan was removed from the throne, just a little more and he would have surely cooked soup from our Air Force. negative
      1. figwam 19 September 2015 09: 27 New
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        About the Su-30 "Star" will show.
        http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201509171218-olj6.htm
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      3. Vladimirets 19 September 2015 09: 36 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        4 heavy fighter modifications? Su-30SM, Su-30M2, Su-34 and Su-35S

        Is the Su-34 a heavy fighter? belay
        1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 09: 46 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          Is the Su-34 a heavy fighter?


          Yes you are right, front-line bomber hi ! Nevertheless, it also belongs to the Su-27 family, so I also listed it. I mean, Poghosyan was promoting the aircraft exclusively to Sukhoi’s production in the troops, preventing them from doing so, for example, Mikoyan Design Bureau and Yakovlev Design Bureau. Now the situation has begun to improve! good
          1. da Vinci 19 September 2015 10: 18 New
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            The monopoly of the Su platform alone and the complete disregard for MiG (as well as Tu) are not the “merit” of Poghosyan, but the criminal myopia of the functionaries from the government and the Ministry of Defense, which, most likely, has a basis in the form of bribes or kickbacks. wink
            1. Tusv 19 September 2015 11: 53 New
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              Quote: da Vinci
              and complete disregard for the MiG

              Ignoring MiG is that Sukhoi won the tender for Pakfa. and fso. Different tasks for these birds. The only thirty-fifth is ripe for the series to crush namesakes
            2. Gregazov 19 September 2015 16: 31 New
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              I fundamentally disagree with you. In particular, in 1998. was on retraining on MiG. The crafts themselves told me that their difficult situation (working 3 days a week) was the result of a political miscalculation of the MiG leadership, which threw money from the Malaysian contract to increase the manufacturer’s plant capacity (the design bureau lost its independence and became a structural unit of the serial plant), and not to modernize the aircraft or a new model like they did on Su. As a result - a large number (as silent) of unnecessary and unpaid aircraft and the loss of markets. And then Poghosyan?
      4. FID
        FID 19 September 2015 10: 00 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        It’s good that Poghosyan was removed from the throne, just a little more and he would have surely cooked soup from our Air Force.

        Well, he already "swaggered" .... It will take a long time to rake. Yes, the whole top of the country is continuous "culinary experts" ...
      5. andrew075 19 September 2015 10: 09 New
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        supportive
      6. KnightRider 19 September 2015 10: 37 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        Su-30SM, Su-30M2, Su-34 and Su-35S in my opinion a little "vinaigrette" is obtained.

        This topic has probably been raised a thousand times ...
        These aircraft were "born" as a result of the development direction of the Su-27:
        -shock direction - Su-34
        -fighter direction - Su-35S
        - from the double Su-27UB received multi-purpose Su-30SM
        -Su-30M2 go to the regiments to the Su-27SM
        For me, in any case, everything is logical and there are no contradictions. In addition, three different plants in three cities are engaged in their production: everything has been mastered, adjusted, planes are rhythmically entering the troops.
        1. max702 19 September 2015 12: 31 New
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          Quote: KnightRider
          For me, in any case, everything is logical and there are no contradictions. In addition, three different plants in three cities are engaged in their production: everything has been mastered, adjusted, planes are rhythmically entering the troops.

          I fully support! What are these raids on Poghosyan? Everything works, every plane is in place .. but all around there are some screams about a mythical conspiracy against the honest and smart KB MIG and Yakovlev, who drove themselves to a standstill, resting on their laurels of previous achievements.
        2. supertiger21 19 September 2015 17: 12 New
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          About the first two, I do not mind, and we need the Su-34 and Su-35!

          Quote: KnightRider
          - from the double Su-27UB received multi-purpose Su-30SM
          -Su-30M2 go to the regiments to the Su-27SM


          But already of these two there is definitely one redundant.
      7. Tusv 19 September 2015 11: 42 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        All the Su-27 family cars are amazing, but why was it necessary to immediately purchase 4 modifications of a heavy fighter? Su-30SM, Su-30M2, Su-34 and Su-35S in my opinion a little "vinaigrette" is obtained.

        Su-34 Americans from the family of flankers crossed out.
        Here a successful glider decides a lot. The speed range is from 200 km / h to M = 2,6 (for the super-rapper rapper, there is a limitation of two speeds of sound - the glider will break). How can one not rivet various modifications sharpened for a specific battlefield.
        So this is not a "Venegret", but a very murderous flock hi
        1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 17: 14 New
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          I agree, the Su-34 is a very necessary drummer for our Air Force. But why take simultaneously and Su-30SM and Su-30M2 I do not understand ... request
          1. saturn.mmm 19 September 2015 19: 50 New
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            Quote: supertiger21
            . But why take simultaneously and Su-30SM and Su-30M2 I do not understand ...

            Su-30SM is being built on Irkut and Su-30M2 on KnAAZ, so production lines are set up, it is expensive to rebuild.
        2. Voha_krim 20 September 2015 04: 38 New
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          Quote: Tusv
          the super-rapper rapper has a two-speed limit of sound - the glider will break

          One correction: the speed limit is not due to the glider, but because of the stealth color. It just blows away when heated above M = 2! I hope for our PAK FA to resolve this issue.
      8. max702 19 September 2015 12: 25 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        It’s good that Poghosyan was removed from the throne, just a little more and he would have surely cooked soup from our Air Force.

        Yeah .. four types of DRYES is a vinaigrette, but if you add or dilute them with ABSOLUTELY other MIG machines it will be just right .. Where is the logic then? recourse Dryings are less different in filling, but for the most part they are identical planes, and this is a huge saving of effort and money on training and maintenance, and if you take into account the very dubious combat qualities of the MIG-29 family, then the decision to emphasize Sushki is absolutely correct. And yes, let's remember about the rake with the t-64, t-72, t-80 .. or the current idiocy with signs of sabotage when adopting the KA-52i and MI-28 pair instead of the KA-52 and KA-50 ..
        1. maiman61 19 September 2015 14: 44 New
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          Yeah! You comrade yet! I served on the T-80, a great car! In 1980, he shot ATGMs through the barrel, a laser rangefinder and a ballistic computer, which determined barrel wear, lateral wind, type of projectile, vehicle speed and at what angle! Started in any frost in exactly 54 seconds and go! Had an anti-aircraft machine gun which the commander drove while sitting inside the tank! doesn't seem strange. that abandoned this car? We cadets easily squeezed 60 km / h on the tankodrome!
          1. max702 19 September 2015 23: 27 New
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            And what do I have that against the t-80? NO! I am against the DIVERSITY in our troops! It is EXPENSIVE AND INEFFECTIVE! Bullshit in a pair of SU and MIG .. Poghosyan corrected, for this alone he needs to erect a monument ..
      9. shans2 19 September 2015 14: 06 New
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        in a moment, the glider's life is lower, range and load are small, versatility is lower.
        1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 17: 18 New
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          Quote: shans2
          in a moment, the glider's life is lower, range and load are small, versatility is lower.


          Su and MiG are generally different fighter classes. Dry is heavy, and MiG is light; both are needed. One of them cannot be excluded; they must complement each other.
          1. Talgat 19 September 2015 19: 06 New
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            I agree - you need both light and heavy

            It is clear that Russia and we have a huge territory - and Sukhoi seem to be better suited - range

            But God forbid, he is straining on the western border - in a potential conflict, range is no longer a decisive factor - there will be a front and light front-line fighters in a large number will be needed - such as f-16 or Mig-29 (therefore, the USSR also had Mig 29)

            Of course, I am glad that ours began to receive Su30, but I remember there were publications about the interest of Mo KZ and to Mig 35 - they will be cheaper, and in the south we will be completely covered with air. Place Mig 35 in Taldykurgan, for example, in Bishkek and get it everywhere

            But Mig 31 and Sukhoi should be based far away from the border - Karaganda, Astana

            And the fifth generation, I generally would like for our not to buy yet - it’s terribly expensive and not necessary - let Russia keep it in the west and in the north - where is the “adversary” - and in our south who will drive them? China seems to be a "friend" for now
            1. Voha_krim 20 September 2015 04: 49 New
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              In addition to range, time plays an important role. Drying is much longer in the air than MiGs!
            2. max702 20 September 2015 13: 09 New
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              Quote: Talgat
              Of course, I am glad that ours began to receive the Su30, but I remember there were publications about the interest of the Mo KZ and to the MiG 35 - they will be cheaper, and in the south we will completely have air cover.

              The fact of the matter is that they are not cheaper! And if you take into account the combat effectiveness, the MIGs are much more expensive than the Sushki! Their only niche is export .. Simply, the MIG Design Bureau shrugged everything that could rest on the laurels of past victories, the politics of nepotism and kinship did not bring to mind the result of absolutely non-competitive machines .. And I’ll tell you frankly about the type of delivery to the arsenal of SUs instead of MIGs just give hope for tomorrow, yes, yes, it fits perfectly into Putin’s notorious plans to quietly do what is needed for the country and this fact makes me happy ..
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  3. Barakuda 19 September 2015 09: 28 New
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    Well done, of course. Current is more to pliz troops.
    I, too, in my youth spent sheets on Assembler, I thought I would bring benefit to the Motherland .. Well, there the hunchbacked all was taken. Remained "Tetris" and "Tenis" for CNC machines. So hard workers were not bored.
  4. Boa kaa 19 September 2015 09: 29 New
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    Our glider has always been the best in the world. Avionics ... did not reach the upper bar. If we get a board at the level of am, then their song in the air will be sung completely.
    Good luck and success to KRET enterprises in their work!
    1. Tanais 19 September 2015 09: 58 New
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      Avionics ... did not reach the upper bar.

      In what? On the basis of what data did you determine the level of the “upper bar”, and for which systems?

      If we are talking about airborne radar, then here it is possible and necessary to argue, and if also unique and long serial on Russian planes optoelectronic detection system "add on", then ...
      1. FID
        FID 19 September 2015 11: 31 New
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        Quote: Tanais
        serial on the Russian aircraft optoelectronic detection system "add on", then ...

        Do not forget about the control system ... Domestic EMDS - this is that system! Another conversation is that the element base is imported, but this is not avionics - this is our wretched industrial policy, which, from Gaidar, is “we will buy!” ...
        1. Tanais 19 September 2015 11: 33 New
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          Quote: SSI
          Do not forget about the control system ... Domestic EMDS - this is that system! Another conversation is that the element base is imported, but this is not avionics - this is our wretched industrial policy, which, from Gaidar, is “we will buy!” ...

          You see, in general, if you omit Gaidarism, then everything is not so bad, but on the contrary ...
          1. FID
            FID 19 September 2015 11: 55 New
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            Quote: Tanais
            You see, in general, if you "omit" the "Gaidar", then everything is not so bad, but even the opposite ..

            So, these are old Soviet developments, there is no new one. Ideas and designs of 20-25 years ago are being developed and modernized. Already then, the aviation science of the USSR was ahead of the world ... But young, talented designers are NOT visible, believe me ... Now, they are going to resume production of the Tu-160, and they still call me from Kazan for consultations, and I'm retired. .. And where to get your own? Time is running out, the level of SIMPLY EDUCATION is falling, so I see no reason for optimism ... As one forum member usually writes (Sibirbalt, in my opinion, but I can be mistaken) - the system needs to be changed!
            1. Tanais 19 September 2015 12: 27 New
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              Quote: SSI
              As one forum member usually writes (Sibirbalt, in my opinion, but I can be mistaken) - the system must be changed!


              Change, only wisely. Otherwise, Ukraine ...
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                FID 19 September 2015 13: 23 New
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                Quote: Tanais
                Change, only wisely. Otherwise, Ukraine ..

                I would love to, but - the old one already ... And the young generation - ...
                1. KnightRider 19 September 2015 17: 36 New
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                  I would love to, but - the old one already ... And the young generation - ...

                  And where does the old-old? Health does not allow to go to the polls or laziness? Or do you think that youth should ride in the squares instead of elections? How do you want to change the system? what
                  1. FID
                    FID 19 September 2015 18: 42 New
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                    Quote: KnightRider
                    And where does the old-old? Health does not allow to go to the polls or laziness?

                    So I go, you are my teacher! Even if I’m sick, I’m crawling anyway, I vote and what? Do you know how elections are held in Moscow?
            2. Aleksandr1959 19 September 2015 15: 34 New
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              Exactly Sergey Ivanovich! "When things went wrong with the brothel master, he didn’t move the beds ... he changed the whores" wassat
            3. aviator65 19 September 2015 21: 15 New
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              I remember back in 1992, while I was working at AK. Ilyushin had to talk with American colleagues, participants in the then-joint program on the IL-96MO. So these guys then still told us in plain text: "Guys, you chop the branch you are sitting on. It will take us another 15 -20 years to catch up with your developments." And so it happened ...
        2. maiman61 19 September 2015 14: 46 New
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          You would have referred to Ivan the Terrible! Have some shame!
          1. FID
            FID 19 September 2015 14: 53 New
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            Quote: maiman61
            You would have referred to Ivan the Terrible! Have some shame!

            If you do this to me, then I'm sorry, I'm a stranger to you, to "poke" ...
  5. oberon 1 19 September 2015 09: 36 New
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    As a specialist in diabetes, I’ll say that a lot has been modernized during this time
  6. pan.70 19 September 2015 09: 36 New
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    Why not, today the SU-30SM is the best aircraft. T-50 and F-22 airplanes will be tested for a long time, and route aviation is needed now to protect our country, so this is the best option today.
    1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 09: 49 New
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      Quote: pan.70
      T-50 and F-22 aircraft will be tested for a long time.


      Tests F-22 ?? He actually has been in service since 2005, what other tests ?! Perhaps you mean the F-35?
  7. Mountain shooter 19 September 2015 09: 40 New
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    All the advantages of the fifth generation fighter - stealth. If the radar and the optoelectronic system can detect the same Raptor at the right distance, it will have no advantage. And in terms of maneuverability, the 30th is not inferior to him. There are less than 2 hundred of these “hijniks” in the mattress, and production is mothballed. And we will have more. So the passion for delaying the T-50 in mass production is perhaps a little exaggerated.
    1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 09: 53 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      There are less than 2 hundred of these “hijniks” in the mattress, and production is mothballed. And we will have more. So the passion for delaying the T-50 in mass production is perhaps a little exaggerated.


      I don’t know about you, but at least I think the 180 F-22s are a big threat. And I would not be so optimistic: "And we will have more." I myself am only FOR, but I think that we will not achieve a similar number of units before 2022-2024. I will be glad if I am mistaken! hi
      1. max702 19 September 2015 12: 45 New
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        Quote: supertiger21
        I don’t know about you, but at least I think the 180 F-22s are a big threat. And I would not be so optimistic: "And we will have more." I myself am only FOR, but I think that we will not achieve a similar number of units before 2022-2024. I will be glad if I am mistaken!

        The threat is somewhat exaggerated, think for yourself in a local conflict whether these aircraft will be used if on the other hand there are our dryers and less adequately organized air defense, because there is a high risk of losses, and this is material but most important MORAL costs .. Therefore, this is a global conflict machine, but Again, in the USA, they perfectly understand that Russia will never start this conflict first and does not have plans for an attack on the USA, that’s why the f-22 series is not 750 as planned but 180 .. The US realized that those tasks (for which f 22) will not be! Therefore, they dazzled for some reason.
        Understanding that in the event of a global conflict, the presence of f-22 will not have any role in the United States the same is present.
        1. supertiger21 19 September 2015 17: 20 New
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          Quote: max702
          Quote: supertiger21
          I don’t know about you, but at least I think the 180 F-22s are a big threat. And I would not be so optimistic: "And we will have more." I myself am only FOR, but I think that we will not achieve a similar number of units before 2022-2024. I will be glad if I am mistaken!

          The threat is somewhat exaggerated, think for yourself in a local conflict whether these aircraft will be used if on the other hand there are our dryers and less adequately organized air defense, because there is a high risk of losses, and this is material but most important MORAL costs .. Therefore, this is a global conflict machine, but Again, in the USA, they perfectly understand that Russia will never start this conflict first and does not have plans for an attack on the USA, that’s why the f-22 series is not 750 as planned but 180 .. The US realized that those tasks (for which f 22) will not be! Therefore, they dazzled for some reason.
          Understanding that in the event of a global conflict, the presence of f-22 will not have any role in the United States the same is present.


          I completely agree! I spoke more theoretically, of course that in practice this is unlikely to happen! wink
  8. KnightRider 19 September 2015 09: 43 New
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    Always and in everything you can do even better! Even such a cool aircraft as the Su-30SM! Looking forward to new contracts! And tomorrow’s release of Military Acceptance! soldier
  9. roskot 19 September 2015 10: 01 New
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    Su-30SM and its export modification Su-30MKI by 2020 will become one of the most numerous aircraft of the Russian Air Force and Navy,

    Our birds in our sky will not allow any eagles and other pterodactors to fly there.
    1. saturn.mmm 19 September 2015 20: 04 New
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      Quote: roskot
      Su-30SM and its export modification Su-30MKI by 2020 will become one of the most numerous aircraft of the Russian Air Force and Navy,

      The Su-30MKI is not our plane, but an Indian one and pleases their pilots, there is no such plane in the Russian Air Force and Navy.
  10. Maxom75 19 September 2015 10: 06 New
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    If only they were not carried away and the amount of equipment did not become so large that there was no room for ammunition, and the idea is right - serial production reduces the cost of production and helps maintainability.
  11. Sealek 19 September 2015 11: 09 New
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    The Su platform itself fully complies with the requirements for modern mass fighters and has a good modernization reserve both in terms of internal volumes and cargo capacity, which cannot be said about MiG crafts - which are suitable only for sale to small countries with a tiny territory or for increasing the number of wing aircraft aboard the floating airfields. All countries-manufacturers are engaged in modernization of this generation of platforms - only their platforms do not have a constructive reserve for this and as a result "freaks with growths" are obtained. I see no reason to throw Papa Po poop.
    The KETs are definitely well done - they don’t put on hold the results of their R&D, as was customary in the days of the USSR, but immediately try to bring them to life - like water, “penetrated all the cracks” and brought profit to the Russian state.
    1. 31rus 19 September 2015 11: 46 New
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      Well said, I support, but the weapons for our aircraft require improvements and new models
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    mvg 19 September 2015 14: 05 New
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    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: supertiger21
    All the Su-27 family cars are amazing, but why was it necessary to immediately purchase 4 modifications of a heavy fighter? Su-30SM, Su-30M2, Su-34 and Su-35S in my opinion a little "vinaigrette" is obtained.

    Su-34 Americans from the family of flankers crossed out.
    Here a successful glider decides a lot. The speed range is from 200 km / h to M = 2,6 (for the super-rapper rapper, there is a limitation of two speeds of sound - the glider will break). How can one not rivet various modifications sharpened for a specific battlefield.
    So this is not a "Venegret", but a very murderous flock hi

    Superuper Raptor, without afterburner flies on M = 1.8, and 2.6 he also "does"
  13. Zaurbek 19 September 2015 14: 23 New
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    Mig himself merged and dispersed his specialists, Sukhoi saved the contract with India. They received both money and technology. As a result, we retained personnel and offered the finished product to our Air Force and were able to develop the 5th generation.
  14. cat hippopotamus 19 September 2015 19: 57 New
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    Well, why not upgrade? If a good glider meets the challenges of the future, then you can upgrade the filling, which will fundamentally change its characteristics for the better. This is like the T-90, a deep modernization of the T-72, as a result, another machine.
  15. Zaurbek 20 September 2015 21: 25 New
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    Look at the number of upgrades F-15-16, we are still 4th generation tuning 20-30 years!