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Passion for Matilde

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Passion for MatildeThe shooting of the epic motion picture epic “Matilda” directed by Alexey Teacher is coming to the end. We are waiting for another cranberry and mockery history Russia. How can you judge a movie without viewing it, especially since the filming of "Matilda" takes place in an atmosphere of unprecedented secrecy? Alas, film critics and the Master himself assure us that "the history of our country could have developed in a completely different direction, if in 1894, Nikolai acted at the call of the heart." Of course, the author has the right to fantasy. But this is too much ...


PRINCESS FROM THE HUNT

Back in 1884, cesarevich Nikolai, when he first saw Alice of Hesse, fell in love with her. He wrote in his diary: “It is very, very sad for me that the Darmstadts are leaving tomorrow, and even more that sweet Alix will leave me.”

From that moment on, the crown prince began to dream of marriage with Alice. Emperor Alexander III and Empress Maria Feodorovna strongly opposed it.

Alix was a poor princess from the duchy, who had long ago become the outback of the German Empire. Her mother suffered from a nervous breakdown, but, worst of all, she was a carrier of a hereditary disease - hemophilia, which is transmitted through the female line to her sons, but the carriers themselves do not get sick. Naturally, neither Alexander III nor Empress Maria Feodorovna at first did not want to hear about this marriage.

Alix's Darmstadt relatives tried with might and main, but, alas, her capabilities were small. The first violin in the struggle for the imperial crown for Alix was played by the grandmother Queen Victoria. And all the services of the kingdom worked for her, from diplomats to career intelligence officers.

Found the "fifth column" in St. Petersburg. At its head were the Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich (the Tsar's brother) and his wife Elizabeth (Sister Alix), as well as the Grand Duchess Xenia Alexandrovna (the Tsar's daughter) and the Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich. Moreover, behind the latter there were still three brothers of Mikhailovich - the grandchildren of Nicholas I.

Needless to say, the grand princes and princesses did not deal with the device of the marriage of the crown prince at all out of altruism and the desire to help the couple in love. By the end of the 19th century, several dozen great princes and princesses were spinning around the throne, who continuously competed and intrigued with each other - there was a struggle for orders, money, palaces, and even personal freedom in choosing a bride or groom.

But this is one side of the coin. And the other is Matilda’s social position. It is now illiterate actress, inflated cheeks, climb into politics. And then the actresses ... as if to say more softly ... were considered the ladies of half light.

FROM MUD YES AT PALACE

Today, school teachers, unfortunately, often read the texts of the classics to students, without going into the essence. Recall:

Obshkat Phaedra, Cleopatra,

Moinu cause (in order

Just to hear it).

Or, like Tolstoy Pierre, with drunk officers, went to the actresses with a drunk, yes, I remember, they also took the bear.

In the XVIII - early XX century in the company of the officers of the Guard it was very prestigious to have popular actresses as mistresses. To a certain extent, this contributed to career growth. But the marriage with the actress, even the most famous, clearly put an end to the career of an officer or state official. The most honored officer was obliged to leave the regiment.

As for the great princes from the house of the Romanovs, they could marry only with the permission of the emperor and only with a sovereign person. In this case, the person could have already lost her kingdom or duchy. It was enough for one title.

Here, for example, at the beginning of 1891, in the Italian town of Saint-Remy, Grand Duke Mikhail Mikhailovich was married to Countess Sofia Nikolayevna Merenberg. Sophia was the daughter of Prince Nicholas Wilhelm of Nassau and Natalia Alexandrovna Pushkina. The daughter of the “sun of our poetry” divorced her husband and again married Prince Nikolai Wilhelm of Nassau. Their marriage was recognized as unequal, and Natalia and her children were forbidden to carry the name of her husband. In exchange for her father-in-law, the duke of Nassau was given the title of Countess Merenberg.

Alexander III did not recognize this marriage, and Mikhail Mikhailovich deprived of all ranks and titles and by special decree forbade him entry into the empire.

Mish-Mish reacted calmly to the royal decree. The newlyweds chose England as their main residence. Queen Victoria conferred on them the title of Count de Torby. In Russia, the Counts of de Torby have never visited.

As you can see, the Grand Duke could not even marry the prince’s daughter because her mother was divorced. Well, when the Grand Duke expressed a desire to marry a merchant's daughter, she and her family were sent without trial to places not so remote. And interested in specific episodes, I refer to my book "The Fate of the Dynasty."

Naturally, not a single Grand Duke even thought about marrying an actress. And despite the fact that at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries almost all the grand dukes (with a normal sexual orientation) had a metress among actresses.

So, the Grand Duke Konstantin Nikolayevich with ballerina Anna Kuznetsova had five children, who received the name Knyazevy. Grand Prince Nikolay Nikolayevich Sr. from the ballerina Ekaterina Chislova had four children, who received the surname of Nikolaev. Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolayevich Sr. was commander-in-chief of the Russian army in the Balkans during the Russian-Turkish war of 1877 — 1878. A talentless commander, he became the hero of an officer's jokes like: “Oleg the Prophet took Constantinople and nailed the shield to its gates, and Nikolay Nikolayevich wanted to beat the Chislovoy pantalonchiki to the gates of Istanbul,” he said.

The son of Nikolai Nikolayevich was also Nikolai, and also for the beginning headed the cavalry, and then became commander-in-chief of the Russian army. Accordingly, Nikolai Nikolayevich Jr. had his own actress, Maria Alexandrovna Pototskaya, a prima donna of the Alexandrovsky Theater.

Even the aged grand duke Mikhail Nikolayevich, in his declining years, began an affair with the singer Nina Fride.

Well, what did the actresses have of ties with the great princes?

First, the highest patronage in the theater. The director of the imperial theaters, Privy Councilor Vladimir Arkadyevich Telyakovsky wrote: “The real adviser is secret, and the direct directors are in charge, but they, like females, are not recorded by mistake in the administration lists.”

Accordingly, the editor of the newspaper, who published the article about the actress, was summoned to the police, where he was warned, or simply expelled from the capital.

In the course of a long relationship with the actresses, the grand dukes usually bought them a medium-sized house and presented them with jewelry. As a result, the grand mistress lived at the level of the second guild merchant's wife.

Especially valuable gifts to give metressam was not accepted and even dangerous. So, in 1874, the Grand Duke Nikolai Konstantinovich, the grandson of Emperor Nicholas I, had the imprudence to present a small part of the family jewels to his mistress American actress Fanny Lear, and he also showed an obstinate nature: he did not want to repent and humiliate himself. Nicholas Konstantinovich deprived of the title and sent to prisons and links.

Nikolai Konstantinovich stayed in the places not so remote for much longer than the Decembrists or the People’s People, and only in March 1917 he was released by decree of the Minister of Justice Kerensky.

INTRIGUE OF STATE VALUE

Matilda Kshesinskaya was no exception. She was never seen by the crown prince as a wife. Nikolai never discussed any state affairs with the ballerina. Especially since, to be honest, they didn’t hold much of the crown prince.

So, the connection with Kshesinskaya was an ordinary affair. As a result, she received a house and several decorations from Nikolay. By the time of the break in 1894, Matilda was inferior in her wealth to dozens of other dancers and actresses who had rich patrons. Here, in fact, all the cinema, plus a dozen sentimental dialogues and alcove scenes.

And because of this Kshesinskaya entered the history of Russia? The fact is that after 20 years after breaking up with Nikolai, who married Alexandra Fedorovna, the poor actress turns into the richest woman in Russia. And the emperor Nikolay had nothing to do with this.

During these 20 years, Matilda changed many lovers, but they were all not rich. The exception was represented by two great princes - Sergey Mikhailovich and Andrey Vladimirovich. But even they could not physically create for her a fabulous state.

In February 1917, Matilda pawned some of her jewels in the banks, rescuing 4 million rubles. She wrote that bankers robbed her. But in order to earn so much money, she would have to dance on the stage of the imperial theater ... 200 years!

Matilda became the owner of four luxurious palaces - in St. Petersburg on the Kronverkskaya embankment, two palaces on the Cote d'Azur in France and the palace complex in Strelna from a two-story palace, a concrete pier with a yacht and even a two-story power station. On the name of Matilda in Strelna gathered at least a thousand guests. For this, even changed the train schedule from St. Petersburg.

Where did the ballerina come from? She did not do business, like modern pop stars. The fact is that Grand Duke Mikhail Nikolayevich, Feldtseyhmeister General (died at 1909) and his son, Artillery Inspector General Sergei, controlled all purchases of military equipment, and above all artillery, out of control.

COMRADE BENDER AND NOT DECLINED

Sergey, together with Matilda and the management of the Schneider company and the Putilov factory, organized an organized criminal group - an organized criminal group. By law, in order to order a new artillery system for the Russian army, it was necessary to arrange a competition with the testing of the best samples of foreign and Russian factories.

Until 1894, the beginning of the connection between Matilda and Sergey, the instruments of the Schneider Company were not quoted in the Russian army. They preferred the tools Krupp and Obukhov factory. Well, and then Schneider's company took the lead. I myself studied in the archives the test reports of the Krupp, Skoda, Schneider, and Vickers guns. And everywhere there was a mass of postscripts and forgeries. For example, the Schneider 152-mm gun showed worse ballistics than the similar Krupp system. But, of course, they accepted Schneider’s cannon, since it was a few pounds lighter. The funny thing is that in the same document, our generals suggested making improvements to the Schneider system, which increased its weight by more than 300 kg, that is, making it significantly heavier than the Krupp system.

Reached jokes. In 1906 – 1909, GAU developed tactical and technical requirements for a 9-inch (229-mm) siege mortar. In 1912, tests of the 9-inch Krupp mortar began at the Okhtena test site, which, to the surprise of our generals, shot from the wheels. Well, Schneider simply could not make such a mortar. And then, on the orders of Sergei, GAU decided that 9-inch mortars of the Russian army are not needed.

And with the beginning of the First World War, the same Sergei ordered to order in England 44 "unnecessary" 9,2-inch mortars.

In 1907, Schneider did not have time to apply for the competition 122-mm howitzer. It was impossible to declare it "unnecessary", since there were no tools of mounted combat in the field artillery at all. It was necessary to adopt the Krupp howitzer, which was launched into serial production under the name “48-linear (122-mm) howitzer mod. 1909. A year later, Schneider finally brought his howitzer to St. Petersburg, which at least had no advantage over Krupp howitzer. But Sergei ordered to adopt it. Thus, two howitzers of fundamentally different designs appeared in Russian artillery. In the troops, howitzer of the 1910 model of the year, without hesitation, were called "Kshesinskaya howitzer systems".

I note that Krupp never wondered at which Russian factories they would make his guns. He fruitfully cooperated with both Obukhov and Perm plants. But Schneider signed contracts with the obligatory condition that his artillery systems would be made exclusively at the Putilov Works, the only private artillery plant in Russia.

Moreover, Sergey and Matilda decided to bankrupt the largest supplier of land artillery - Motovilikhinsky (Perm) artillery plant. From 1905 to 1914 year, the plant did not order a single gun! The plant was supposed to collapse, and the workers rebel. However, the plant was surrounded by villages where the proletarians previously lived. And the hard workers simply went to the peasantry.

Yes, even here Sergey was put in the leg by his brother Mikhail Mikhailovich. He lived in England and played golf with Cannon King Albert Vickers. I add that both were high degree masons. Vickers also laid eyes on the Motovilikhinsky plant. The battle of the titans began. But then inappropriately shots rang out in Sarajevo.

The war began. Putilov plant flunked most orders and was nationalized. But every third gun on the front in 1914 – 1917 was made at the Motovilikha plant.

TO THE LAST SOLDIER

The French government since the beginning of the twentieth century planned to wage war until the last soldier, of course, Russian and German. Russian army had only to attack. As a result, Sergei for the first time in the history of Russia in 1911 abolished heavy (siege) artillery, promising to recreate it in 1917.

From 1894, the Russian serf artillery did not receive a single heavy weapon and was content with the 1877, 1876 and 1838 systems. New tools in the fortress Sergey promised the king to deliver in ... 1930 year.

Meanwhile, in Germany, Austria-Hungary, France and other states, siege guns of 305, 380 and 420 mm caliber were created. And by the year 1915, the maximum caliber of the artillery artillery was 152 mm for guns and 203 mm for mortars.

But in the fortresses, not only the caliber of the gun and the firing range are important, but also the security of the installation. From 1863 to Belgium, and then to England, Germany, Austria-Hungary, Romania, Denmark, etc. medium-caliber guns in the land fortresses were installed in the rotating metal towers. So, by the 1908 year in Germany, Krupp plants produced 1903 towers, a Skoda plant built 485 towers, a Belgian Cockeril plant around 400 towers, etc. In Russia, in the land fortresses, by the year 1915 there was one tower, and that French one, by mistake, got into the Osovets fortress.

It was possible to install tools of medium and large calibers in concrete casemates or concrete cubes, as the Germans did, for example. Such installations were invulnerable to projectiles and bombs of any caliber.

In Russia, at the beginning of the 19th century 90, it was decided to remove medium-caliber guns from the forts and place them inside the citadel in order to “ease the load on the forts”. Thus, only light anti-assault guns of 57 – 76 mm calibers remained on the forts, and all large implements of 107 – 203 mm calibers were delivered on batteries behind the line of forts. Moreover, the Russian guns were delivered quite openly, protected only by a low earthen or concrete parapet.

Alas, heavy artillery became the decisive force in the positional First World War. And the three lines of the western Russian fortresses, which were considered the strongest in the world by 1894, were surrendered to the Germans with almost no resistance.

PUTTING FACTS

The modern Russophobes, using the example of Kshesinsky, prove to us that the entire Imperial ballet has fled from the excesses of the Bolsheviks. Alas, it was different.

Dygilev organized the troupe back in 1908 year and began to organize Russian seasons in Paris, and with the beginning of the war in 1914, he left the company from France in the USA.

Anna Pavlova left for England in the 1914 year and never returned to Russia from there. Vaclav Nijinsky with 1910 of the year - in Paris in the company of Dyagilev.

Lifar studied, danced and staged ballets in Soviet Russia. In 1923, he had an acquaintance (a novel?) With Bronislava Nizhinskaya (Vatslav's sister), and she invited him to the Russian Ballet troupe in Paris.

Georgy Balanchine studied at the Petrograd Drama School in 1914 – 1921. Then he was accepted into the corps de ballet of the State Opera and Ballet Theater and at the same time he studied in the ballet class of the Petrograd Conservatory. In 1923, he married 15-year-old (!) Dancer Tamara Zheverzheyeva. In modern Russia, he would have been sent to the zone for pedophilia, and Balanchine’s career would have ended. In 1923, he graduated from the conservatory, and the next year he went on tour with his company to Germany. There Balanchine received an invitation from Dyagilev to the place of the choreographer in the Russian Ballet. George agreed and immediately changed his name to George. As you can see, a career typical of Russia of the 21st century is an artist, mathematician, chemist, etc. She is educated and goes to work in the United States or Western Europe.

The famous ballerina Tamara Karsavina also appeared in the West. In 1917, she married British diplomat Henry Bruce and went to London with him. Only a person who possesses, to put it mildly, a rich imagination, can write to Tamara and all the above artists in political emigrants.

By the way, Matilda’s brother Joseph Kshesinsky continued to perform successfully on the Leningrad stage and even himself performed ballets. In 1922, the Polish government offered him to go to Warsaw. Later, Matilda got her brother a visa to France. But in both cases, Joseph decisively refused.

In the surviving passages of Kshesinsky's memoirs, two things surprised me. Firstly, instead of the USSR, he often writes “Soviet Russia”. If he wrote memoirs for the authorities, he would most likely use the official name of the country, and “Sovetskaya Rus” - I think this is from the heart. Jozef became a Russian man of Polish origin. Well, and secondly, Joseph never mentioned Matilda in his memoirs. Why? I do not know and do not want to make assumptions.

But we forgot about the second great prince, Andrei Vladimirovich. He was young, energetic and poor. Therefore, Matilda gave her son Vova, conceived in cohabitation with both great princes, gave the patronymic Sergeyevich. And Sergei Mikhailovich was very proud of his fatherhood.

In emigration, the laws of the Russian Empire were no longer valid, and poor Andrei married Cannas to rich Matilde in 1921. Well, Vova was rewritten from Sergeyevich to Andreevichi.

Soon Matilda lost her fortune in roulette. Andrei and Vova became prominent figures of the Russian fascist party “Mladorosy”. Pulling in green shirts, they came to the party congresses and, throwing out a hand in a Nazi salute, shouted: "Glory to the Head!" With the start of World War II, the French broke up the fascist party, and Vova sat for a few months in the Compiegne camp. Kazem-Bek fled to the United States, where the FBI was exposed as a Soviet agent in 1955. He fled through Cuba and Czechoslovakia to the USSR and spoke on the radio there, denouncing American imperialism.

Matilda died in Paris 6 December 1971 of the year, not nine months before her centenary.
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  1. tomket
    tomket 20 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +100
    The people are waiting for the “28 Panfilovites”, and not for the different “Matild” baits.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 20 September 2015 14: 59 New
      +18
      Quote: tomket
      The people are waiting for the “28 Panfilovites”, and not for the different “Matild” baits.

      We just won’t wait for this film ... am
      And this one will be driven on all channels and discussing more ...
      Andrei and Vova became prominent figures in the Russian fascist party Mladorosy. Having pulled on green shirts, they appeared at party congresses and, throwing out a hand in a Nazi salute, shouted: “Glory to the Head!” And the Head was Alexander Kazem-Bek, the former captain of the imperial army.

      pah damn .. boot them in the mouth of everyone! am
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 20 September 2015 15: 25 New
        +29
        Quote: MIKHAN
        We just won’t wait for this film ...

        I threw them a little. And WAR THUNDER, I see, connected. There are chances.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 20 September 2015 22: 24 New
          +1
          I also threw it))) ... A real folk cinema turns out ... Good practice is planned ...
      2. Julio Jurenito
        Julio Jurenito 21 September 2015 11: 13 New
        +1
        But it’s interesting: who in general at the state level develops the themes of films planned for shooting? After all, it’s not for his own money that Master takes it off?
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 20 September 2015 15: 29 New
      +17
      It is gratifying that not only film critics began to determine falsity in the cinema. Give ideology and it will crumble like husks along with these "teachers." The same Mikhalkov, by origin characteristic of servility to the sovereign, managed to catch, even on television, the last carriage of the train leaving him from the station he was being dragged into, and his liberal propaganda.
      Only the Russian "Orthodox bath" will clear all devils. She is the wisdom of the people. hi
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 20 September 2015 18: 58 New
        +7
        "I didn’t read, but I condemn" Let’s take a look at first, don’t like it - I’ll shit it together. How is the offer?
        1. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. 20 September 2015 21: 14 New
          +6
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          "I didn’t read, but I condemn" Let’s take a look at first, don’t like it - I’ll shit it together. How is the offer?

          1. It seems necessary to agree, otherwise I will end up in a company with the Sharikovs and Shvondery. But something is wrong here. I do not agree.
          2. It would be better to be friends with Schwonder and put life to the aid of the Sharikovs than to be stupid with the duped next White Guard opus. In the name of the Motherland, one must be very careful when placing the emphasis of historical events. And you have to be honest - history is a natural process of development of large communities of people. And here no remakes are possible, and the alternatives are unscientific.
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 20 September 2015 17: 17 New
      +13
      How already got these liberal films, from the Lungin-like!
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 20 September 2015 18: 51 New
        +3
        However, it is too early to discuss what has not yet been seen. Teacher is a good director, whatever one may say - "Walk" - in my opinion - is just a masterpiece, I live in St. Petersburg. With regards to this film, let's see why the negativity immediately?
        1. 23 region
          23 region 20 September 2015 19: 10 New
          +6
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          With regards to this film, let's see why the negativity immediately?

          Good movie! He’s taking a stranglehold!
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 20 September 2015 19: 23 New
            +2
            Excuse me, I don’t understand, what does Vasiliev have to do with it?
            1. 23 region
              23 region 20 September 2015 19: 57 New
              +22
              Quote: Dr. Bormental
              Excuse me, I don’t understand, what does Vasiliev have to do with it?

              Not hard to guess. The well-being of Kshesinskaia and Vasilyeva became the military budget of Russia. Comprenes?
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          3. Vityok
            Vityok 20 September 2015 20: 03 New
            +4
            I have diarrhea immediately begins when I see this mug sorry "face"
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    5. datur
      datur 20 September 2015 20: 49 New
      +1
      [quote = tomket] The people are waiting for "28 Panfilovites", and not for different Mathild props --- And that's for sure !!! In general, who is watching this trash? wink who shot the same? The main thing is enough to shoot at our expense, all garbage !!! Only at the expense of the customer, and the rental is also at his expense !!!! wink
      1. populist
        populist 20 September 2015 21: 27 New
        +2
        datur
        In general, who is watching this trash? wink the same who removed? The main thing is enough to shoot at our expense, all garbage !!! Only at the expense of the customer, and the rental is also at his expense !!!!

        It seems that someone is watching. (I do not watch).
        Even at the expense of the customer it is impossible to shoot and roll films distorting the history of Russia. It is necessary to accept scripts and finished films for historical subjects only through a special state commission.
        They print green candy wrappers as much as they like and pull them out from anywhere.
    6. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 21 September 2015 09: 59 New
      0
      Here the story of the first Russian terrorist Popil Otatov at the state defense order is interesting ...
    7. iouris
      iouris 21 September 2015 12: 02 New
      0
      One follows from the other: heroism is necessary when above are negligent in fulfilling their duties.
  2. moskowit
    moskowit 20 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +26
    Immediately by the title of the article I guessed that the film was being shot about the full-time slut of the Romanov house of Kseshchinsky. Naturally, this crap will not be of interest. Add a list of advertised "sensational" and with a bang of failed projects in compliance with the historical "truth." DO NOT BELIEVE! And I assure you, do not look, plunge into another vulgarity.
    1. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 20 September 2015 14: 56 New
      +7
      Is there a historical “component” in this “movie”? Or is it just a “vision of the director’s story”?
    2. Down House
      Down House 20 September 2015 14: 59 New
      +19
      And now, even without vulgarity, you can only if you look at fiction in the movies and the arthouse, almost everything else is quiet horror!
      And about the historical fraud, after watching certain "historical" films, I came to the conclusion that this is a global problem.
      "highly spiritual" directors of the elementary laws of physics in films do not comply, to say nothing of some kind of "boring" historical truth!
      1. smershxnumx
        smershxnumx 20 September 2015 15: 07 New
        +3
        And about the historical fraud, after watching certain "historical" films, I came to the conclusion that this is a global problem.

        I think that many will agree with this, a complete distortion of facts, fraud, chernukha ...
        1. Down House
          Down House 20 September 2015 15: 25 New
          +12
          Quote: smerx24
          total distortion of facts

          No need to look for a black cat in a black room, especially when she is not there.
          Therefore, personally, I think that it’s not so much a distortion as a banal ignorance and misunderstanding of the same story, a modern director-producer-viewer is a “poet at heart” with a Bologna education - he has a “rich inner world” and an empty head! fellow
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 20 September 2015 16: 08 New
          +16
          Quote: smerx24
          I think that many will agree with this, a complete distortion of facts, fraud, chernukha ...

          Another "Withering away", undoubtedly a failure at the same time.
        3. kalibr
          kalibr 20 September 2015 18: 18 New
          +1
          You look at the film "Armored Train" - a solid "unscientific" fiction about the war ...
          But watch another film "Glass of Water". The truth about the war is there, and they only speak for the Spanish legacy, but as it is set well, what kind of costumes ... When we want, we can!
          1. Manul
            Manul 20 September 2015 23: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: kalibr
            You look at the film "Armored Train" - a solid "unscientific" fiction about the war ...

            Yes, I’ll say more, I really didn’t like Brest Fortress, although she has a lot of fans here. Compared to the Immortal Garrison, the directors' efforts today are driving the bar singer’s attempt to sing in Magomayev’s voice. I’m not talking about Stalingrad. If only these current filmmakers would choose the names for the film not from historical parallels, but the meaning of those scenes that they decided to make a brilliant film. Oh, they don’t have the Ministry of Culture on them. Nobody would let you call the film "Bondarchuk" Stalingrad ". Yes, maybe "Inhabited Island" (my one of my favorite childhood books) would not be allowed to spoil.
          2. andrew42
            andrew42 21 September 2015 14: 23 New
            +1
            Yes, the Glass of Water was exceptionally good. This is a real dramatic performance, not a movie.
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 20 September 2015 15: 57 New
      +14
      Quote: moskowit
      Immediately by the title of the article I guessed that the film was being shot about the full-time slut of the Romanov house of Kseshchinsky. Naturally, this crap will not be of interest. Add a list of advertised "sensational" and with a bang of failed projects in compliance with the historical "truth." DO NOT BELIEVE! And I assure you, do not look, plunge into another vulgarity.


      Even after his "cosmos, as a hunch" I can’t wash my hands from the filth given by them! You are right, our parents taught us as a child that it is not necessary to try der.mo to make sure that it is it! This Jew, who does not have a Homeland, is immensely happy about this, his homeland is where denyushki and this is not a rare worldview of such crap like him. This scarecrow also scoffs at people who have a Homeland, moreover, he infuriates him that they also love her . A goy deprived of his soul, God is his judge, although he does not believe in him! hi
    4. Altona
      Altona 20 September 2015 16: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: moskowit
      Immediately by the title of the article I realized that the film was being shot about the full-time slut of the Romanov house of Kseshchinsky. Naturally, this crap will not be of interest.

      --------------------
      It’s better to watch a porn parody right away ... Sheer love and a "happy ending" ...
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 September 2015 14: 53 New
    +9
    We are waiting for another cranberry and a mockery of the history of Russia.

    Perhaps this is so, only in the article I did not see it. request

    But I agree with this: How can one judge a film without watching it, especially since the shooting of Matilda takes place in an atmosphere of unprecedented secrecy? yes
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    2. kotvov
      kotvov 20 September 2015 19: 07 New
      +3
      How can one judge a film without watching it, especially since the shooting of Matilda takes place in an atmosphere of unprecedented secrecy? ,,
      actually you can. if you, fed, these, great directors, are indigestible over and over again, do you really want to try guano again?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 20 September 2015 20: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: kotvov
        if you’ve been fed, these, great directors, indigestible over and over again, do you want to try guano again?

        I thought the film was being discussed, not the director.
  4. smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 20 September 2015 14: 54 New
    +3
    Some kind of Santa Barbara, eprst ... With a commercial-corruption bias ...
  5. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 20 September 2015 14: 59 New
    +6
    Yeah .... But how do we, people living in the 21st century, discuss those great and small princes more than a century ago? ... Other times. The emperor, abdicating, thought that this would save Russia. It turned out what happened .. There were different people at the court — and adventurers, and patriots and embezzlers .. But now, what is the Kremlin’s (and near Kremlin’s) elite better? Let's understand today, and not yesterday, that our country would have a great future ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 20 September 2015 19: 11 New
      +3
      But how are we, people living in the 21st century, to discuss those great and small princes more than a century ago ?,
      Of course, it’s a plus for you, BUT. and then in order to know why the revolutions of the 17th did take place.
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 15: 02 New
    +7
    Yes, you read about blue blood like this, how everything is confused, and you remember the words of Uncle Pushkin, the artillery major: "You need to start drinking in the morning, and not be distracted by anything else ...". The only, in my opinion, why all these prince-kings-emperors for some couple of hundreds of years because of family marriages did not completely degenerate, so these are extramarital affairs (not caught) of princesses and queens. Genealogical trees sometimes go back to gardeners ...
    1. Down House
      Down House 20 September 2015 16: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: iliitch
      not completely degenerated

      Well, it depends on how you look, some representatives were "bizarre" and hurt so that all the signs of "degeneration" on the face!
  7. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 20 September 2015 15: 12 New
    +12
    We don’t have much money in Russia, except to make a series about the whore of the Romanov dynasty, the Ministry of Culture and the State Film Committee were completely obscured, this is called the upbringing of the younger generation.
  8. sabakina
    sabakina 20 September 2015 15: 20 New
    +7
    Somehow I read a book where it was said that in the people (and maybe not only in the people) Alex was called "Daromstad". And yet, if Nicholas II would have passed the rule to his younger brother Mikhail at his majority, as bequeathed to Alexander III, who knows how history would go ...
    1. Antropos
      Antropos 20 September 2015 16: 54 New
      +2
      Daromshmatskoy
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 20 September 2015 19: 13 New
      +3
      Nicholas II would have handed over the rule to his younger brother Mikhail at his majority, as bequeathed to Alexander III, who knows how history would go ... ,,
      but there wouldn’t be anything. The system had to be changed, which was rotten through and through.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 20 September 2015 21: 06 New
        +1
        I agree with you. But, maybe it would have cost less blood. Did not think about it? Neither I, nor you and Mikhail drank, and we don’t know what kind of person he was ...
        P.S. If what, I'm for the international ...
  9. Bayonet
    Bayonet 20 September 2015 15: 29 New
    +3
    I read both the article and the reviews, well, what can I say - and laughter and sin. negative Matilda got the most I can’t ("... the film is shot about the full-time slut of a Romanov’s house"), as everyone has always shouted and that’s all. Give such a free rein - feature films will be banned completely! Books too! They will probably leave the circus - everything is simple and there is no need to think with your head! laughing Yes, we still need fairy tales about the heroes of the heroes, this is useful! smile hi
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 20 September 2015 19: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Bayonet
      As always, they shouted at everyone.

      The most interesting thing is that NO ONE saw the film about the fact that it is bad, ONE man said. laughing And then we ask ourselves, how is this h.ohlam brain trash.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 20 September 2015 19: 17 New
      +2
      Give such a free rein - feature films will be banned completely! Books too! Circus perhaps ,,
      dear, let them withdraw, but on their own or on the sponsors. and withdraw something on our (so to speak) state ones.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 20 September 2015 22: 29 New
        0
        Quote: kotvov
        yes let them shoot, but on their own or sponsors. and shoot something on ours (

        Are you sure about this, where does the information come from?
    3. your1970
      your1970 20 September 2015 20: 56 New
      0
      to evaluate how everything happened then is always useful ..
      History repeats itself in a spiral - how they overthrew a rotten system (with all its corruption, nepotism, not attention to the people, etc.) we went through both the 20 and the 21 centuries (an example of the country 404)
      Therefore, you first need to watch a movie, maybe it’s more relevant now and "28 Panfilov" (oddly enough!) - and then we'll see ...
  10. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 20 September 2015 15: 31 New
    -2
    Someone wanted to light up in. What for?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 20 September 2015 15: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: TBM - 75
      Someone wanted to light up in. What for?

      It seems to me: And those interested in specific episodes, I refer to its the book "The fate of the dynasty" smile
  11. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 20 September 2015 15: 36 New
    +1
    What happens - that week in St. Petersburg, a monument to pedophile Balanchine was solemnly opened and shown in the news. And where the supervisory authorities looked. They themselves give rise to enemy propaganda.
  12. feniks
    feniks 20 September 2015 15: 36 New
    +6
    There is not a single normal film of Russian production. Therefore, I try not to watch, especially the military and historical ones.
    1. Rader
      Rader 20 September 2015 16: 32 New
      +10
      Quote: feniks
      There is not a single normal film of Russian production. Therefore, I try not to watch, especially the military and historical ones.

      I would say that the genre of historical and military-historical cinema is going through hard times, not only in Russia, but also in the whole world. Instead of filming the story as such, or at least transferring the works of classics of world literature to the screen, the directors give out their fantasies (in most cases crazy) for reality. So different people will watch the movie artist: some will swear, regret the time spent and forget this moment, others will argue that the film as a whole is not bad (fresh look / special effects / cast), and others will take these fantasies for truth (and this the worst thing)!
      Ps In general, Zadornov was right that the only thing that can be watched now on TV is p * rn * ha! Only there everything is always for love and ends on "positive"! laughing
      1. TVM - 75
        TVM - 75 20 September 2015 22: 28 New
        0
        To create a true historical film you need to know and think about everything. And our artists do not really want this from art, and a fantasy on a historical theme went for a walk. Type of convicts saved the world or an attack with cuttings from shovels. Therefore safer according to Zadornov
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 20 September 2015 18: 23 New
      +1
      But there are good Soviet ones. For example, "Black Arrow" by Stephenson. Only one stretch compared to a book (precisely a stretch) is so understandable that the book was reduced. But a lot of wonderful little things of that era!
  13. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 15: 39 New
    +7
    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    We don’t have much money in Russia, except to make a series about the whore of the Romanov dynasty, the Ministry of Culture and the State Film Committee were completely obscured, this is called the upbringing of the younger generation.


    No, THIS is formatted, this people will haw, according to THEIR concepts, They already think, probably, in English. To restore education for a long time (to remind about the Unified State Examination?), The culture-culture is even longer, and the budget has already been spent. Agents of influence will have to be pulled out from under the sewer manholes for a long time. And you will grab it - so the whole world will be screaming: "Ah, where is democracy? I sold the country at a rate of thirty, but I’ve been conditionally ten, it’s atrocity!” . And Babooninich will start broadcasting about something, just off topic, if only to spoil. Isn't it time to spit on everyone, and think about yourself, loved ones?
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 20 September 2015 15: 40 New
    +5
    Quote: tomket
    The people are waiting for the “28 Panfilovites”, and not for the different “Matild” baits.

    Or maybe Che Guevara? angry And then we have only the Volochkova-they take out valuables and diamonds with safes, but they do not bother, they still have! negative hi
  15. NDR-791
    NDR-791 20 September 2015 15: 44 New
    +12
    Alas, film critics and Teacher himself assure us that “the history of our country could have developed in a completely different direction, if in 1894 Nikolai had acted at the call of the heart.” Of course, the author has the right to fantasies. But this is too much ...
    It all depends on specific individuals. Compare our two (Germanic) queens - Anna Ioannovna and Catherine II. Yes, and compare the kings - Nikolashka gave a Japanese city saber to the head, and rolled, but Alexander III, in such a situation, could have smashed the city SAM himself with his parade saber, and the Japanese would still apologize ... So, that would only be personalities. And at the expense of cinematography, so the “Stalingrad” Bondarchuk filmed specifically for the Oscars (by those standards). For a long time I was really surprised that in the history of the Battle of Stalingrad there was no historical moment more worthy of the director’s attention? "Enemy at the Gates", shot by amers is much closer to historical truth, although here they are lovers of history to interpret for the sake of the calf ...
    1. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 20 September 2015 16: 50 New
      +4
      Yes! "Sasha-Three" - he could !!! And that would apologize - also tochnik !!!
  16. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 20 September 2015 15: 58 New
    0
    Alexander Shirokorad is widely known for his love of hot facts. Although, as the Savior said: “He who is without sin, let him first throw a stone at me.”

    All people, all people. And "Wedge Blinton" was not without sin. And Princess Diana was seen in adultery. Yes, and our GDP has a difficult fate, for that matter. This is a human life. And do not rinse the dirty laundry.
    1. Dok133
      Dok133 20 September 2015 16: 33 New
      +1
      I completely agree. Pre-revolutionary Russia here does not stand out for the worse.
      But the Bolsheviks killed millions of people in the camps, and when the Germans attacked, they retreated not like the tsar’s army, but much east to Moscow and the Volga. Is this better?
      1. Dok133
        Dok133 20 September 2015 17: 25 New
        +1
        Haha, what is the minus set? I don’t like it, yes? Because it's true.
      2. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 20 September 2015 17: 25 New
        +3
        Sorry, doc, but I'm not talking about the Bolsheviks. I'm talking about people. And with your opinion, it’s better for Echo of Mosca ...
      3. NDR-791
        NDR-791 20 September 2015 17: 33 New
        +7
        But the Bolsheviks killed millions of people in the camps, and when the Germans attacked, they retreated not like the tsar’s army, but much east to Moscow and the Volga. Is this better?
        But Kutuzov passed Moscow in general ... Yes? So is he even worse than the Bolsheviks? What crazy logic do you have !!!
        But the tsarist army actually fell apart. And the Germans were sitting in Kiev and Petlyura there ...
    2. smershxnumx
      smershxnumx 20 September 2015 19: 22 New
      +2
      That's right! Always enough (and enough now) "moral detectors" to find "dark spots in the sun"! But it doesn’t happen that only white and only black! One gray has "fifty shades" .... laughing laughing laughing
  17. Walking
    Walking 20 September 2015 16: 05 New
    +5
    All the actresses at that time were ladies of half the world, and now, as the first ladies of the country, the heroines are straightforward.
  18. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 16: 25 New
    +3
    Quote: Down House
    Quote: iliitch
    not completely degenerated

    Well, it depends on how you look, some representatives were "bizarre" and hurt so that all the signs of "degeneration" on the face!


    And in the world, colleague, there has always been and will be a balance - for every stupid Nikolashka who exchanged the Empire for a family (and you were crowned a member, in general?), There is a stupid answer - Ilyich with Trotsky and Felix trailer. Narulil pretty, BUT! We have something to be proud of. Enemies do not jerk, we are almost ready to attack us. So that . Pay attention to the attack on us! And let them scream, wretched.
  19. bubla5
    bubla5 20 September 2015 16: 28 New
    +3
    I didn’t even read it. This king’s sleeping gauno is not interested.
  20. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 16: 39 New
    +2
    Quote: Down House
    Quote: iliitch
    not completely degenerated

    Well, it depends on how you look, some representatives were "bizarre" and hurt so that all the signs of "degeneration" on the face!


    So this turns out to be purebred.
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 20 September 2015 19: 57 New
      0
      "So this turns out to be purebred."


      Yes, "purebreds" at all times have been, are, and will be. Who are, for example, Ksenia and Andryusha, if not “purebred”? It’s not Andryusha who wrote the immortal lines, we all know that he is a specialist in feces:
      -I look in the toilet, laughing.
      I have blue urine.
      And my feces are blue.
      Today I am satisfied with myself.
  21. muhomor
    muhomor 20 September 2015 16: 44 New
    +2
    The fate of the intelligentsia-to serve the interests of the ruling class! am
  22. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 20 September 2015 16: 45 New
    +1
    Great article. THANKS to the author!
  23. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 16: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: Dok133
    I completely agree. Pre-revolutionary Russia here does not stand out for the worse.
    But the Bolsheviks killed millions of people in the camps, and when the Germans attacked, they retreated not like the tsar’s army, but much east to Moscow and the Volga. Is this better?


    Wait a minute, have you studied history, colleague? What happened, it happened, the result is known to all. "Bolsheviks, camps ..." "The White Guard, a colossal debt, the occupying forces, the same camps, a fight for power between cheap generals ..." In the subjunctive mood I will not discuss yelling - it's silly.
  24. Dok133
    Dok133 20 September 2015 17: 10 New
    +1
    Of course, when we talk about history, it is better to set aside emotions. I compared the Bolsheviks with tsarist Russia and not with the White Guards. The subjunctive mood is when we discuss, "what would happen if ...", that is, something that is not It was in fact. And the Gulag Archipelago and the retreat to the Volga was in reality.
  25. yuriy55
    yuriy55 20 September 2015 17: 18 New
    +3
    It is naive to wait for some “not budgetary” films from Russian cinema in large numbers. Some remakes (newer versions of previously released films) are worth it !!! And, already, pictures taken at one’s own discretion and vision of the past (non-existent past) are complete nonsense. Thickly flavored with erotic scenes, relishing not the most personal traits and manners of man, abounding inventions and gadgets of a later historical period, these "vysery" directors (I will not name names), designed at best for foreigners, at worst - for young people whose vision of the past associated with articles on the Internet and Hollywood films, can cause disgust and nausea.
    Aleksey Uchitel - director, accustomed to create life at his own discretion (mania of the Lord?) One “Edge” with locomotive races and jumping over the bridge is worth ...
    It is not necessary to wait for the masterpiece from the Passions according to Matilda. History does not know the subjunctive moods, and only the lazy does not try to rewrite the past ... yes
  26. sabakina
    sabakina 20 September 2015 17: 23 New
    +16
    I remember in the USSR, I stood in line for 2-3 hours for a ticket for the film "Pirates of the 20th Century" ...
    Mom watches on TV cops-bandyugi, bandyugi-cops ... Ugh, stump edren!
    And we remember ...
  27. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 20 September 2015 17: 27 New
    +9
    Quote: A1L9E4K9S
    We don’t have much money in Russia, except to make a series about the whore of the Romanov dynasty, the Ministry of Culture and the State Film Committee were completely obscured, this is called the upbringing of the younger generation.

    It's not that --- in Russia we have --- budget money! There already seemed to be so many promises to strengthen control over budget spending! I don’t want to repeat the vile names of vile films over the last time. Filmed about animals!
  28. Socialism 2.0
    Socialism 2.0 20 September 2015 17: 44 New
    +1
    That is why, too, I am against the monarchy.
    Petty parasites.
  29. akudr48
    akudr48 20 September 2015 17: 45 New
    +7
    Well, what can I discuss, Shirokorad is a very famous author to argue with him on the merits, on the facts.
    Do not argue, do not refact ...

    The scheme is as follows.

    There is one director, Teacher, who continues to hang cranberries and spoil the history of Russia through cinema. Yes, even at public expense, where are you, a patriot of Medina?

    In the script, he came up with a bifurcation point in the format of the G-spot of the ballerina Kshesinskaia, and it was not enough for her to catch the throne for this point. This is the whole movie, which is not surprising.

    With creative imagination, and in general, with cinema, talents became quite tight; they cannot create an imperishable masterpiece without dancing on the bones of the Russian Empire or the USSR. Like a super patriot Nikita, with his weary suns.

    And in modern Russia, similarly such brave guys are not embarrassed to pass by nibbling the minister’s hand of the giver, stamping around as much as whole Leviathans ...

    And the only thing was that the young and looking for age of adventure future Master of the Russian Land found the same adventure with a ballerina and good frolic, good money allowed.

    Instead of rejoicing that nothing human was alien to him (like the current king, a weak man), from this ordinary affair, Teacher begins to invent and promote events, real and imagined, to make a movie in which even the King is the master’s hands becomes very, very sexually preoccupied ...

    And this is already interesting, people are shaking, and it will be possible to bring a movie to Europe!

    But Shirokorad is not easy, to make the transition from point G to a large-caliber serf gun Matilda is not easy, not everyone succeeds, but here - please! And not only to the guns, then to the war, then to the revolution, and finally to the emigration, the trail leads. Super!
    And all because there was no import substitution in tsarist Russia. But there were many points G.

    The article is interesting and informative in every way!

    And the directors will continue to crap, continuing to hang cranberries and distort, but here the author is not to blame.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 September 2015 18: 41 New
      0
      Andrei Khodov has a book in The Game for Survival (science fiction, of course), but there is a good passage at the expense of the creative intelligentsia. There is no time to look for a quote now, but the meaning is as follows: give free rein and the quintessence of creativity will be an ass facing the viewer.
  30. boroda64
    boroda64 20 September 2015 17: 50 New
    0
    .........
    - not praising
    - just a fact
    - in the USSR - only a list of consultants for the film director / combatants /
    - There was no less than the list of protagonists ..............
  31. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 20 September 2015 17: 57 New
    +2
    after reading the headline, he decided that the author would reveal the "secrets" of some kind of German "Gros-cannon", they liked to name the guns differently, and there he would explain the tsarist dynastic policy, and that, is it not clear that Nikolay 2 became so including the cause of his son's indelible illness? if the article was placed in the historical part, it would be appropriate and ...
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 September 2015 18: 50 New
      +1
      This is because in the photo to the article, a piece of the Maginot Line in the Calais area, preserved as a museum.
  32. Shurik70
    Shurik70 20 September 2015 17: 57 New
    +3
    I know about Matilda Kshesinskaya from the “Caucasian Prince” by Velichko.
    http://samlib.ru/w/welichko_a_f/a-0.shtml
    That she managed to give birth to a child, being the mistress of two Grand Dukes at once, and convinced everyone that it was his child.
    laughing
  33. oldzek
    oldzek 20 September 2015 18: 12 New
    0
    I read carefully the comments and did not see any interest in finding out who paid for it, I won’t tell the film, in general, a future masterpiece.
  34. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 18: 13 New
    +2
    Quote: Dok133
    Of course, when we talk about history, it is better to set aside emotions. I compared the Bolsheviks with tsarist Russia and not with the White Guards. The subjunctive mood is when we discuss, "what would happen if ...", that is, something that is not It was in fact. And the Gulag Archipelago and the retreat to the Volga was in reality.


    No, the White Guard is a derivative of rotten tsarism, therefore the responsibility for them also falls. It was the stupidity of decision makers that played a decisive role. It was clear back in Russian-Japanese. Ilyich came up with something, as he himself wrote, "because the power was lying underfoot, it only had to be picked up." The meaning of the phrase is as follows. And do not be the Gulag - do not see us Victory. Cruel? Yes . But Stalin did not run away from Moscow - he was always there. What kind of colossus did this person raise?
    1. Lenivets
      Lenivets 20 September 2015 19: 09 New
      +2
      "it is a derivative of rotten tsarism"

      Maybe you don’t have to throw stupid labels in the spirit of Marxism-Leninism?
      Hanging on the centuries-old history of their own country, this primitive and stupid label is somewhat vile. hi
      1. MrK
        MrK 21 September 2015 01: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: Lenivets
        Hanging on the centuries-old history of their own country, this primitive and stupid label is somewhat vile.

        "Label hang" on people who lived in a particular historical time. And this or that assessment of the activity of these specific people does not detract from our history. It belittles history when people are extolled whose essence and results are known. The ordinary woman-holder, who was terribly fond of money, cannot represent our country in historiography.
  35. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 20 September 2015 18: 20 New
    +3
    I wonder who finances the filming and accordingly orders the music. And if they shoot on a budget piece, then who pushed this budget piece ** Heroes ** sawed Homeland should know by name
  36. IAlex
    IAlex 20 September 2015 18: 26 New
    +1
    I am 99% sure that it is being removed at the expense of the state ...
  37. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 18: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: sabakina
    I remember in the USSR, I stood in line for 2-3 hours for a ticket for the film "Pirates of the 20th Century" ...
    Mom watches on TV cops-bandyugi, bandyugi-cops ... Ugh, stump edren!
    And we remember ...


    Well, there are also series about office plankton, or about children and fathers, or about abandoned purses with a child, it is not known from anyone - they themselves do not know, but you need to stick to someone urgently ... That's what I want to advise the scriptwriters - remove the prequels to to all these SAGAMs - well, where did these cuttings come from with such housing, such machines, did they work for at least a minute of their precious life with the brain (not talking about hands)? And this people eats this bubblegum. Already moved to another room - the wife sat down, it is impossible to sleep. Better to listen to the radio.
  38. gammipapa
    gammipapa 20 September 2015 18: 40 New
    +2
    And what to guess, you just need to find out who gives the money for such films and voice funding channels.
    If money is from an NGO, then the film is in their interests. Who pays and orders music.
    If money from the budget - questions to Livanov, why they removed it, what goals they pursued.
  39. starshina pv
    starshina pv 20 September 2015 19: 04 New
    0
    Quote: iliitch
    Quote: sabakina
    I remember in the USSR, I stood in line for 2-3 hours for a ticket for the film "Pirates of the 20th Century" ...
    Mom watches on TV cops-bandyugi, bandyugi-cops ... Ugh, stump edren!
    And we remember ...


    Well, there are also series about office plankton, or about children and fathers, or about abandoned purses with a child, it is not known from anyone - they themselves do not know, but you need to stick to someone urgently ... That's what I want to advise the scriptwriters - remove the prequels to to all these SAGAMs - well, where did these cuttings come from with such housing, such machines, did they work for at least a minute of their precious life with the brain (not talking about hands)? And this people eats this bubblegum. Already moved to another room - the wife sat down, it is impossible to sleep. Better to listen to the radio.

    throw the telly fuck !!!
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 20 September 2015 21: 19 New
      +2
      It is impossible! An old mom ...
  40. X Y Z
    X Y Z 20 September 2015 19: 10 New
    0
    As for the great princes from the house of the Romanovs, they could marry only with the permission of the emperor and only with a sovereign person. In this case, the person could have already lost her kingdom or duchy. It was enough for one title.


    I looked at the author and began to read with much less interest. Well, that’s a clear distortion. The wife of the Grand Duke could hardly have been a sovereign, rather, from a family of a sovereign person. It was possession, even a piece of land, that was decisive in the choice of grooms and brides in the royal family. Lost his possession was already a second-class product and was not quoted. I must say that in those days there were many owners of titles because of the presence in Europe of countless kingdoms, principalities, duchies, counties, etc. But only from the families of owners of specific lands, along with the title, were brides and grooms chosen for the royal family.
  41. iZVerG
    iZVerG 20 September 2015 19: 32 New
    0
    Monarchy is evil for the working people. Novgorod Veche is the best we had. Hopefully one day we will return to our course.
  42. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 20 September 2015 19: 33 New
    +1
    Films should be made about great people and great things, and not about court bl-dei and their filthy deeds! Not db such people are the main objects of the film and b. presented in their negative guise, and not invented "pink snot"! Films should urge people to improve, and not inflate sexomania and wildness of the people! The chanting of all this negativity is beneficial to the current oligarchy, which is thus closes the path to power for potential competitors to their major children and makes people a natural bl, who would only be interested in corruption and grub, and they could manipulate people in their interests! And they do not spare money for such films - that’s where these endless TV shows about how well to live under their guidance from the invisible, that’s where the “legs” grow from the prospects for today's youth! am
  43. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 21: 10 New
    0
    Quote: sabakina
    Somehow I read a book where it was said that in the people (and maybe not only in the people) Alex was called "Daromstad". And yet, if Nicholas II would have passed the rule to his younger brother Mikhail at his majority, as bequeathed to Alexander III, who knows how history would go ...


    The fly of Hesse, that Alix. Look, the German, the future Catherine the Second, came to our country, not knowing the language, 15 years (I don’t remember exactly) she was waiting, she became the EMPRESS, and in the case, there wasn’t Muzhik at that time, the officers of the Life Guards helped - and who NOW condemn her? Descendants will always remember the “age of the golden Catherine” ... But in fact, Peter the Great left such an Inheritance - the empresses had only to keep warm. I will say this, in a peasant way - every man is worthy of the woman with whom he lives, well, isn’t that it? So Nicholas II got there - he’s a wimp himself, and the woman is the same ... I’m not gloating, but, it seems, fate coincided ... And according to the feelings, the woman is the President of Russia - why not? Just to meet the criteria - bend the Americans, with the rest It is reasonable to talk. And then Putin is terribly scary for them - just that - a “sudden check"! I’m just laughing at the stupidity of the “partners” - during inspections their involuntary hiccups begin. Yes, and let it continue.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 20 September 2015 21: 47 New
      +2
      Totally agree!
  44. KRIG55
    KRIG55 20 September 2015 21: 16 New
    +1
    People of art live a different life, separate from the people (but it must be recognized as more prosperous. And at the expense of this people). Therefore, they have completely different problems in their head. One about Kotov takes off, the other about Matilda - what are they up to our problems ....
  45. sabakina
    sabakina 20 September 2015 21: 28 New
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    With all the horror and science fiction that I watched in the 90s, I will never watch 3 films.
    -White Bim Black Ear. 2 series.
    -Go and see.
    -A dawns are quiet there.
    About the third movie. I was a kid when I first saw him. But my tears rolled up, seeing how young girls died, who could love and give birth ...
    P.S. But this does not mean that these films do not need to be watched by the younger generation.
  46. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 22: 08 New
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    Quote: sabakina
    I agree with you. But, maybe it would have cost less blood. Did not think about it? Neither I, nor you and Mikhail drank, and we don’t know what kind of person he was ...
    P.S. If what, I'm for the international ...

    Sabakina, and you weren’t visited by the thought - tomorrow Aldebarans or Betelgey TZYs can fly in, well, easily. And they will say: "Yes, what kind of bolt are you sharpening axes on each other, here is a specific asteroid on approach, are you going to fight back with the S-400s, or what?" And we will become the ETERNAL youth, after the HELP ... I don’t, I think, need to get to this. What are we, goners, or what? We crawl out on caramel to Pluto, after about 200 years, but we don’t need to get the flu vaccine for free, otherwise we’ll bend over from the freebie. Well, you understand what I’m talking about ... I’m trying to say again about the breadth of thought.
  47. NordUral
    NordUral 20 September 2015 22: 29 New
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    Typical liberalists, only the beginning of the last century. We see that the story of this scum stretches from afar.
  48. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 20 September 2015 23: 17 New
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    Quote: KRIG55
    People of art live a different life, separate from the people (but it must be recognized as more prosperous. And at the expense of this people). Therefore, they have completely different problems in their head. One about Kotov takes off, the other about Matilda - what are they up to our problems ....


    Obviously, you need to become a "man of art" - and the worldview will become split in the fourth parameter, on the verge of the radius of the gravitational, "black hole" - which sucks everything in itself, and in return - not a photon. And people of science and art ... I know one "academician" of several "academies". Ram sheep, I rules his book, although I myself am not a monster in Russian. So this person walks, waves a book, sprinkles something else. Those thoughts are not worth the paper on which they are written. But "ksiva" is available! Massaraks, so what? Again, the fees to him, and to me: "Help, please" - well, of course, we bro ...
  49. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 21 September 2015 00: 01 New
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    Quote: akudr48
    Well, what can I discuss, Shirokorad is a very famous author to argue with him on the merits, on the facts.
    Do not argue, do not refact ...

    The scheme is as follows.

    There is one director, Teacher, who continues to hang cranberries and spoil the history of Russia through cinema. Yes, even at public expense, where are you, a patriot of Medina?

    In the script, he came up with a bifurcation point in the format of the G-spot of the ballerina Kshesinskaia, and it was not enough for her to catch the throne for this point. This is the whole movie, which is not surprising.

    With creative imagination, and in general, with cinema, talents became quite tight; they cannot create an imperishable masterpiece without dancing on the bones of the Russian Empire or the USSR. Like a super patriot Nikita, with his weary suns.

    And in modern Russia, similarly such brave guys are not embarrassed to pass by nibbling the minister’s hand of the giver, stamping around as much as whole Leviathans ...

    And the only thing was that the young and looking for age of adventure future Master of the Russian Land found the same adventure with a ballerina and good frolic, good money allowed.

    Instead of rejoicing that nothing human was alien to him (like the current king, a weak man), from this ordinary affair, Teacher begins to invent and promote events, real and imagined, to make a movie in which even the King is the master’s hands becomes very, very sexually preoccupied ...

    And this is already interesting, people are shaking, and it will be possible to bring a movie to Europe!

    But Shirokorad is not easy, to make the transition from point G to a large-caliber serf gun Matilda is not easy, not everyone succeeds, but here - please! And not only to the guns, then to the war, then to the revolution, and finally to the emigration, the trail leads. Super!
    And all because there was no import substitution in tsarist Russia. But there were many points G.

    The article is interesting and informative in every way!

    And the directors will continue to crap, continuing to hang cranberries and distort, but here the author is not to blame.



    So they are ARTISTS! Imagine - a naked woman in a picture - and without boobs. This is a jamb. Well, if there really is no boobs, then why then fantasy?
  50. Support
    Support 21 September 2015 00: 45 New
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    Zadolbali already pulled out naphthalene-smelling diapers of all sorts of shmar and nikolasha-bloody, who, in addition, spoiled everything that was possible, including his life ....