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The fall of the Syrian airbase Abu ad-Duhor. The longest siege of the civil war is over

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The fall of the Syrian airbase Abu ad-Duhor. The longest siege of the civil war is over

After a siege that lasted for almost three years, the Abu ad-Dukhor air base eventually 9 September 2015 was captured by the rebels, mostly from the Al-Nusra Front. The air base kept the longest siege in the civil war in Syria, but its fall was inevitable in the end. Abu ad-Dukhor is now the eighth air base in a row, which fell in front of numerous groups opposing the ruling regime. The Syrian air force still has 15 operating air bases from which it is possible to carry out sorties.


Although it was often rumored that there were operational aircraft and helicopters that made flights over the Syrian province of Idlib, the last operational aircraft left Abu al-Dukhor a month before its fall. Fully aware that the capture of the base is inevitable from a tactical point of view, its retention is meaningless (the rare appearance of military thought in the ranks of the Syrian high command), it was decided to evacuate the remaining few serviceable MiG-23МФ, MiG-21МФ and MiG-21bis aircraft to the air base Hama Although it’s spectacular and impressive at first glance, most of the 18 abandoned aircraft captured on Google Earth, as well as in photographs and videos, were written off 10-15 years ago. The fall of Abu ad-Duhor will not have a special impact on the ability of the Syrian air force to control the Syrian sky.

Since the Abu ad-Dukhor air base was completely cut off from the rest of the territory held by the authorities, the task of supplying the air base was in the hands of the Syrian air force, which mainly used An-26 and Mi-8 / 17 to deliver everything that was required from food to weapons, and as the militants approached the perimeter of the airbase, even for more dangerous tasks. Several helicopters were destroyed, destroyed or damaged over the years, along with the loss of two MiG-21 and one An-26.

The storming of the Abu ad-Duhor air base coincided with a powerful anomalous sandstorm that raced across the Middle East, which prevented the Syrian air force from making sorties to support its defenders. The moral depletion of the defenders, caused by the nearly three-year siege and constant shelling, as well as the numerical superiority of the militants, all of this, ultimately, led to the seizure of the airbase. While most of the defenders were captured or killed, a small group of them nevertheless leaked onto the territory controlled by the authorities. The commander of the Abu al-Dukhor airbase, Ihsan Al-Zahuri, was reportedly killed in action.


Abu ad-Duhor was home to the 678 squadron flying the MiG-23MS, the MiG-23MF and the MiG-23UB, and an unknown squadron flying the MiG-21MF, the MiG-21bis and the MiG-21UM. Undoubtedly, one of the most difficult combat aircraft in stories combat aviation, MiG-23MS, was delivered to Syria back in 1973. In the early 2000s, their life has already expired (although it has already been extended). 678 squadrons gradually phased out operations at about the same time, and in 2005 the MiG-23MS aircraft were officially decommissioned. Of the vehicles capable of take-off at the airbase, there remained a pair of MiG-23MF, several MiG-23UB and MiG-21. One of the MiG-23MS with the number "1614" in the best times in the photo below.


The first serious attempt to seize Abu ad-Dukhor was already made on 30 on April 2013, when fighters of the Syrian Free Army managed to penetrate the air base's perimeter. However, its defenders successfully repulsed this attack, preventing the first rehearsal of the seizure of the air base. Immediately the defensive orders of the defenders were strengthened and in the following months all attacks were repelled. Even before these events, 7 March 2012, soldiers of the Free Syrian Army bombarded the airbase with 9M131 anti-tank missiles (9K115-2 Metis-M), damaging one of the already defective MiG-23MS, which they had encountered again, and the fires were defeated by the fire, and the fires of the defective crews of the Syrian Army XNUMX (XNUMXKXNUMX Metis-M)

The perimeter of Abu ad-Dukhor base is almost five kilometers, it is almost impossible to defend without any tall buildings, from which a flat plain can be seen surrounding the airbase. Therefore, most of the villages and farms around the airbase have already been razed to the ground so as not to give shelter to the rebels. The 13 Fortified Aviation Shelters (HAS), most of which are currently empty, were turned into strongholds, where defense groups of defenders with various light and heavy weapons kept their defenses. Large-caliber machine guns and anti-tank guided missiles were installed at the top of the HAS, since the surrounding terrain was perfectly visible from them. The presence of these HAS played a significant role in the nearly three-year survival of the airbase.

Defenders could count on some support tanks and armored combat vehicles attached to several roadblocks along the perimeter of the base. This technique could also be deployed as a quick reaction force. Indeed, although under siege, the defenders of Abu al-Duhor left their airbase several times with the aim of raiding enemy positions, mainly to neutralize the artillery of the militants. In their attacks on the air base, the fighters of Al-Nusra Front (among them there were many peasants from the rural province of Deir ez-Zor who fled from the Islamic state) lost several tanks that the defenders of the air base used against their former owners.


Although the air base was hardly able to give the militants a large number of weapons and ammunition, but its capture contributed to a serious increase in their morale. The view of the captured MiG aircraft, whether it is operational or not, remains a symbol of victory. As for useful military booty, Abu ad-Dukhor provided the militants with several tanks, combat vehicles, one ZSU-23 installation, several 130-mm M-46 field guns, anti-aircraft guns, trucks, small arms and ammunition. Since photographing airplanes and helicopters from militants is considered more popular than photographing cars, and also because it is not known how many cars and other property were taken along by escaped defenders, it is difficult to calculate the actual amount of captured military property. For example, ten ATGMs captured in one of the HASs actually turned out to be empty containers from three 9M111 Bassoon, five 9M113 Contest and two 9M131 Metis-M.




As expected, most of the machinery and equipment used to service jet aircraft was also captured. Damage and rust on these vehicles indicates that there were almost no operational fighters at the air base, so they were left without much regret.



Many of the suspended containers for the missiles and the air-to-air missiles used once by the MiG-21 and MiG-23 aircraft based at the Abu ad-Dukhor air base were also found abandoned in all fortified shelters. Since the fuel that must be spent for the removal of these containers and missiles is more valuable than the property itself, it was thrown at the air base. As a result, dozens of UB-16 and UB-32 containers were found there. Although it would be ideal to install them on trucks in order to use them as ground-based rocket launchers, apparently none of the 57-mm C-5 missiles were captured, which turned the UB-16 and UB-32 containers into useless pieces of iron. .




In the photo below, about a dozen sets of launch rails were also captured.


Air-to-air missiles P-23Р with semi-active radar guidance system and infrared-guided P-23T missiles in the photo below. They were intended for installation on MiG-23MF fighters of the Abu ad-Dukhor air base, but most of them are still wrapped in protective covers, and in fact more than 35 years have passed since they were delivered!





Additional weapons MiG-23MF missiles "air-to-air" P-60M short-range. Once used in the war with Israel, they are now gathering dust because in the Civil War they turned out to be completely unclaimed.


Several launchers of false targets and local-made dipole reflectors along with boxes of missiles and rocket containers. A lot of discharged fuel tanks for the MiG-21 and MiG-23 were also found, most of which were apparently used as targets.



Without a doubt, the most interesting, at least useful trophies, are 17 fighters and two helicopters found at Abu ad Dukhor air base. This find is akin to the 18 bonus of MiG-21 planes captured by Islamic State militants in Tabka. The condition of the aircraft varies from "only scrap metal" to almost untouched.

678 squadron left behind many aircraft hulls, 11 MiG-23MS, two MiG-23UB and one MiG-23МФ found in the northwestern part of the airbase. After all, most of the MiG-2000 aircraft that were decommissioned in 23s were thrown here.




The MiG-23UB with the 1750 tail number was recently moved from one landfill (part of which is in the photo above) to another, larger one. Perhaps the rebels expect to restore it, but getting an anti-tank guided missile even more damaged the already derelict plane. On the MiG-23MS (in the foreground) two holders are visible for launch targets of false targets.


Undoubtedly, the most worn-out aircraft with fully faded camouflage paint can be seen in the photo below. There is a sign on his nose indicating that he has undergone a major overhaul and maintenance at a Syrian air force repair facility at Neirab / Aleppo airbase.


MiG-23MF "3677" was the only aircraft of this type, which was not evacuated to Ham a few months ago. The remaining technicians probably could not fix his tail after the ATGM hit and decided to leave him, since he would in any case be useless also for his invaders. It was the third aircraft that the ATGM hit and damaged its tail. Of course, when the planes received damage from an ATGM hit, they became unsuitable for use.


Only four MiG-21 were captured at Abu ad-Duhor (excluding G-21F-13), including two MiG-21МФ, one MiG-21bis and one MiG-21UM. Everyone had already been out of service for at least a year and a half and thus could not be evacuated to Ham.


The photo above and below the MiG-21MF "1518", one of the more or less well-preserved in appearance of the aircraft captured in Abu al-Duhor. In the photo below is the only MiG-XNUMHUM left in the shelter. The second photo of the MiG-21МФ with the tail number "21".



The only MiG-21bis was found in another HAS shelter. The guns were removed from all the planes before the base was handed over; they were probably transferred to Hamu to be installed on several serviceable MiG-21МФ and MiG-21bis.


Two Mi-8 helicopters were also captured. One of them, the Mi-8 "1282", was equipped with a mine setting system and possibly participated in the fighting near Abu al-Dukhor before he ended his life at a local landfill after damage in a battle. In the background, the same MiG-23MS described earlier, with tail tails scattered across the grass.




The second Mi-8 fell victim to an ATGM attack in 2014. The helicopter was shot down immediately after landing, and the subsequent fire turned it into junk, which will never take off.



Despite the large number of aircraft found at the airbase, its capture will not have a significant impact on the air campaign of the Syrian air force. In fact, it can be assumed that the capture gives the Air Force a respite they need so much, given that they are now spared the task of supplying the large garrison that occupied Abu ad Dukhor airbase. However, the fall of the airbase was another important reminder of the fact that survival, not to mention victory, is not so guaranteed by the Assad regime. A fact that did not go unnoticed for his supporters abroad.

Materials used:
www.spioenkop.blogspot.ru
www.ru.wikipedia.org
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  1. Don
    Don 21 September 2015 06: 16 New
    +29
    The battle is lost, but not war.
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 21 September 2015 07: 28 New
      +11
      I agree with you.
      What kind of darling is it? We just read about what we don’t like. But this is a fact. That's why our military became more active.
      And they will create a military hub, otherwise the ISIS will Assad’s army with the help of a huge amount of weapons “lost” by amers and constantly replenishing human resources will simply be destroyed by the masses.
      And if Assad falls, then the subject of bargaining in Syria will disappear.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 21 September 2015 07: 30 New
        +4
        But the Kurdish army, people understand, they don’t take up arms, then they will not be on earth:
    2. Su24
      Su24 21 September 2015 16: 53 New
      0
      Very existential report, thank you.
    3. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 21 September 2015 18: 02 New
      +4
      That's what kind of idiotic fashion is - I did not like the news, minus the article ...
  2. Alexkorzun
    Alexkorzun 21 September 2015 06: 28 New
    -6
    The impression that the article is custom ... with a dash.
    1. vrach
      vrach 21 September 2015 07: 32 New
      +7
      Certainly.

      In fact, it can be assumed that the capture gives the Air Force a respite they need so much, given that they are now spared the task of supplying the large garrison that occupied Abu ad Dukhor airbase.


      And the guys that until the end did their duty sorry.
      1. Geo73
        Geo73 21 September 2015 09: 27 New
        +3
        Glory to the heroic deed of the defender of the citadel. Glory to the faithful sons of the state who accomplished what was impossible
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 September 2015 07: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Alexkorzun
      The impression that the article is custom ... with a dash.

      Right, comrade. Vigilance is above all. Sniff and sniff out customers, comrades!
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 September 2015 06: 45 New
    +7
    could not destroy? just dropped everything. somehow it’s not clear there are fighting ... what
  4. datur
    datur 21 September 2015 06: 46 New
    +2
    type of troops-ASSADA -BASE Ottali-Usse! give them up !! demons won !! --- oil !!!! ANY ATTACK !!!!!
  5. Fox
    Fox 21 September 2015 07: 10 New
    -9
    and the professor didn’t write the article? something like the syllable.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 21 September 2015 07: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Fox
      and the professor didn’t write the article? something like the syllable.

      it is a translation. Although, of course, Prof could write in Hebrew and translate for VO. Anything can happen.
      1. Neksel
        Neksel 21 September 2015 11: 42 New
        -1
        Quote: Das Boot
        Quote: Fox
        and the professor didn’t write the article? something like the syllable.

        it is a translation. Although, of course, Prof could write in Hebrew and translate for VO. Anything can happen.


        Quote: Das Boot
        Materials used:
        www.spioenkop.blogspot.ru
        www.ru.wikipedia.org

        Alex Alexeev Translation
        1. Das Boot
          Das Boot 21 September 2015 20: 36 New
          +2
          Neksel

          yes it was sarcasm, by golly ...
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 21 September 2015 08: 49 New
      +8
      fox "and the professor didn’t write the article? something like the syllable."
      Hmm ... the demonization of the professor does not work for nothing.)))
  6. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 21 September 2015 07: 14 New
    +1
    Brave Syrians have been holding back the monster for how many years! During the war, some property and values ​​always disappear.
  7. fest 1973
    fest 1973 21 September 2015 07: 18 New
    0
    Early rejoice, the base is not Syria!
  8. mosquit
    mosquit 21 September 2015 07: 20 New
    0
    Already laid out these photos ...
  9. cobalt
    cobalt 21 September 2015 07: 21 New
    +5
    One incomprehensible thing, the command, realizing the pointlessness of holding the base why it did not evacuate the defenders while there was an opportunity. The equipment would have been blown up, but people would have been saved.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 September 2015 08: 18 New
      +5
      Well, until Idlib fell, they thought of pulling out, as Couvers are trying to pull it out now. And as Idlib fell, so it was not up to the base. Yes, and where to pull them out ??? Break through the battle on enemy territory under 80 km. Those 40 people came out thanks to the sandstorm and only on technology. Those who ran on foot caught them and were already executed on the take-off.

      Now the fate of the base is preparing to divide the enclave north of Idlib - Foie Kefray. Only they have nowhere to run at all ... Either win or die. So far, the first assault has recaptured more or less. We lost the hills in the northeast, but there was nothing much to catch there. They lost the front line of defense in the south of Foix (the broads broke through the line of bunkers and fortified fortress houses). But there are questions about how corny shells will be enough, because there are no supplies. They are throwing cheese and ATGM with parachutes now - but they are constantly attributing them to the broads, because the site is small, but they are thrown from a great height.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 21 September 2015 08: 57 New
        +2
        donavi49 "
        Well, until Idlib fell, they thought of pulling out, as they are trying to pull Couvers now. "
        My remark is not addressed personally to you by donavi49.)))
        Damn what Kuvers? I know there, next to Idlib, the helicopter base seemed to be. Not that?))) On VO, instead of muddy statues about the Battle of Kulikovo, it would be better to review the maps with the situation in Syria, on its fronts. Moreover, such attention is now being paid to her.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 21 September 2015 09: 05 New
          +5
          Aleppo, relying on the lake, is trying to release the base / withdraw the garrison / hold reinforcements, while it is unclear. But now they have stalled, the Baha'is (already the ISIS themselves, but not the Islamic Front and Nusra, who are the most active and are now presented to them in the media as IS), have been strengthened.
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 21 September 2015 12: 12 New
            0
            donavi49 "But now they have stalled, the broads (already the ISIS themselves - and not the Islamic Front and Nusra, who are most active and are now presented in the media as IS) have increased their strength."
            Thank!!!)))
        2. sir.jonn
          sir.jonn 21 September 2015 17: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Nagaibak
          overview with maps

          At militarimaps you can see something.
          http://militarymaps.info/
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 21 September 2015 17: 12 New
            0
            sir.jonn "and militarimaps you can see something."
            Thanks for the help.!)))
  10. shark913
    shark913 21 September 2015 08: 08 New
    +3
    A pile of scrap metal was captured.
  11. Free wind
    Free wind 21 September 2015 08: 29 New
    +4
    And why not mine it all? During this time, it was possible to set up such tricks and blow up this whole pi ... brethren, all the more so as they were preparing for the surrender, why didn’t we cover all this with artillery fire after the departure, and destroy everything there, there are clearly no civilians ?????? ??? They themselves do not want to fight the enemy, it’s better to steer into Europe and fight there. How can you help those who do not want to defend their homeland?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 September 2015 08: 44 New
      +6
      And what can the Syrians cover with fire? There to the nearest position 80 km.

      There’s nothing to mine, only the shotguns were found in the ATGM hangars, not a single combat readiness, from which they burned down, they hoped for normal trophies, and they captured only riflemen and ammunition, and even that wasn’t very much.

      Aviation stood on the ground - for a sandstorm.
    2. yehat
      yehat 21 September 2015 10: 59 New
      +3
      people there are not at all fighting the way we do. They have a completely different discipline, completely different moral principles, and they don’t have as many real experience of fighting as in our country.
      Many things that are obvious to soldiers from Afghanistan or from Chechnya do not occur to them.
    3. Bongo
      Bongo 21 September 2015 15: 08 New
      +2
      Quote: Free Wind
      And why not mine it all? During this time, it was possible to set up such tricks and blow up all this pi ... fraternity, all the more so as they were preparing for the surrender, why didn’t you cover it with artillery fire after the departure, and destroy everything there, there are clearly no civilians there?

      Judging by the available satellite images of the 2014 of the year, not a single building was left at the air base and in the vicinity, and as a military object, it no longer represents value. The picture shows abandoned planes and helicopters at the end of the runway.
  12. RiverVV
    RiverVV 21 September 2015 08: 42 New
    0
    How much money and effort went back in time to support the "Arab comrades" - and how did it end? With abandoned weapons and rusty airplanes at airbases ... They did not even care to blow up the remnants. With rare exceptions, these monkeys should not be given anything more complicated than a “Kalash”, but it would be better to limit themselves to shovels and crowbars.
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    2. creak
      creak 21 September 2015 10: 01 New
      +8
      Quote: RiverVV
      How much money and effort went back in time to support the "Arab comrades" - and how did it end?

      Looking at all this, I recall my service in these parts - the picture is how similar, so sad, although it was back in the days of the USSR. It is incomprehensible to the mind how many equipment was thrown at Sinai, how many aircraft were destroyed at airfields as a result of Israeli air raids ...
      And the subsequent course of hostilities could only be reversed when our soldier harnessed the matter - it seems the story is repeating itself and our guys will again have to put on the Syrian uniform, as we did ...
      PS A curious moment - the militants of the warring group of ISIS captured the air base ...
      1. dali
        dali 21 September 2015 10: 18 New
        +4
        Quote: ranger
        Looking at all this, I recall my service in these parts - the picture is how similar, so sad, although it was back in the days of the USSR. It’s incomprehensible how much equipment was thrown at Sinai, how many planes were destroyed at airfields as a result of Israeli air raids ... And the further course of hostilities could be broken only when our soldier harnessed to business - it seems the story is repeating and our guys will again have to put on a Syrian uniform, how we did it ... PS An interesting moment - the militants of the warring faction with ISIS captured the airbase ...


        Do not equal, as RiverVV "Arab comrades" and Syrians have already said here ...
        By the way, who in the army of Barshar Assad is fighting, you know? Who are the Alawites, you know? You do not understand that they have no other choice, if only because the Alawites are Christians.

        On this base, the Syrians fought as much as they could ... you even read the article or you can only watch the pictures, and you really didn’t even consider it (the technique was not working and not restored by the Ishilovites for sure).

        Here, by the way, the article is already in VO:
        http://topwar.ru/82715-300-spartancev-srazhalis-mesyac-a-300-siriyskih-specnazov
        cev-3-goda.html

        Quote: ranger
        ... PS A curious moment - the militants of the warring group of ISIS captured the air base ...

        At least half of these, so to speak, the so-called Syrian opposition, have long been part of Isil in a place with weapons, with which the mattresses armed them.
        And whether they really are at enmity, it is still necessary to look at it.
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        2. creak
          creak 21 September 2015 10: 42 New
          +11
          Quote: Dali
          By the way, who in the army of Barshar Assad is fighting, you know? Who are the Alawites, you know? You do not understand that they have no other choice, if only because the Alawites are Christians.


          Do you mean who the Alawites are? It seems that you don’t have any idea about this ... The Alawites are one of the branches of Shiism (one of the two main currents of Islam) and therefore Shiite Iran supports them in the fight against the Sunnis. Therefore, to begin with, get at least an elementary idea of ​​what Islam is and who inhabits Syria and do not make people laugh with statements that the Alawites are Christians ...
          Unlike you, I know what war is in these parts from personal experiences, and not from the Internet as you saw similar images not on the monitor, but live)
          (several years of service in Egypt and Syria, a war veteran.)
          PS By the way, Assad’s name is BASHAR and not Barshar, so be more modest - you obviously don’t pull on an expert in Middle Eastern problems - therefore, I don’t see the point in our further dialogue .. hi
          1. dali
            dali 21 September 2015 11: 02 New
            -15
            Quote: ranger

            PS By the way, Assad’s name is BASHAR, not Barshar and be more modest - you are far from an expert in Middle Eastern problems ...
            Well, who are you, the all-knowing expert or something ?! belay laughing
            Poke an elementary typo ... more brains for anything was not enough?

            Quote: ranger
            It seems that you don’t have any idea about this ... The Alawites are one of the branches of Shiism and therefore Shiite Iran supports them in the fight against the Sunnis. Therefore, before others in ignorance, get at least an elementary idea of ​​what Islam is and who inhabits Syria and do not make people laugh with statements that the Alawites are Christians ...
            The fact that the Alawites and Muslims exist is that I already know without you - you’re our great expert laughing or expert'rt
            There are many hypotheses that the Alawites are descendants of Christians: either Crusaders, or Cilician Armenians ... etc.
        3. Pimply
          Pimply 21 September 2015 11: 11 New
          +7
          Quote: Dali
          Alawite Christians.

          Damn, Alawite Christians - this is very strong. About the same thing as Orthodox Muslims say 8)
          1. vidmid
            vidmid 21 September 2015 15: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Quote: Dali
            Alawite Christians.

            Damn, Alawite Christians - this is very strong. About the same thing as Orthodox Muslims say 8)

            Alawites closer to Shiites
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        4. RiverVV
          RiverVV 21 September 2015 13: 02 New
          -6
          How many could, yeah ... Already the equipment and rockets did not have enough strength to explode.
          Alawites? Well, everything has already been said below. One word: woodworkers.
          1. dali
            dali 21 September 2015 20: 07 New
            0
            Quote: RiverVV
            How many could, yeah ... Already the equipment and rockets did not have enough strength to explode.
            Alawites? Well, everything has already been said below. One word: woodworkers.
            You really are without brains, do not understand where, when and what is needed ... belay

            Well, for what would it be to blast this useless metal already?
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      3. Professor
        Professor 21 September 2015 19: 30 New
        -11
        Quote: ranger
        And the further course of military operations was only possible to reverse when our soldier harnessed to the matter -

        Somehow I missed when a fracture happened there ... Do not remind me? wink
        1. creak
          creak 22 September 2015 11: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Professor

          Quote: rangerAnd the further course of hostilities could be broken only when our soldier harnessed to business - Somehow I missed when there was a turning point ... Do not remind?


          Let me remind you, professor, if you have such a memory - a turning point was outlined after the Soviet military contingent was transferred to Egypt in early 1970.
          After that, your planes no longer flew where they wanted, and as they wanted, and did not fly deep into Egyptian territory. And after your Air Force suffered sensitive losses, I won’t give you any numbers, you have your own statistics (unfortunately, there were losses from our side) - In the summer of 1970, a truce was concluded between Egypt and Israel ... Remember?
          Or maybe you did not suffer losses and went to a truce solely out of noble motives? .. wink
          1. Professor
            Professor 22 September 2015 11: 53 New
            -2
            Quote: ranger
            Let me remind you, professor, if you have such a memory - a turning point was outlined after the Soviet military contingent was transferred to Egypt in early 1970.

            What ignorance is however. In 1967, Israel captured the Sinai and went to the Suez Canal. What is the turning point in 1970? Egypt went on the offensive and recaptured 1 square centimeter of its land? Egypt was offered back to Sinai in exchange for peace. He refused to start a war of attrition. In 1970, Egypt entered into a truce without receiving an inch of its territory. And where is the fracture?

            Quote: ranger
            After that, your planes no longer flew where they wanted, and as they wanted, and did not fly deep into Egyptian territory.

            They flew where, as and when they wanted. For example, they stole the Soviet radar from the Egyptian rear. wink

            Quote: ranger
            Or maybe you did not suffer losses and went to a truce solely out of noble motives? ..

            I repeat. Israel was ready not only for a truce, but also for peace with the return to Egypt of all the occupied territories. In 1970, Egypt agreed to the conditions of Israel without receiving anything in return. Cool fracture. good
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            2. creak
              creak 22 September 2015 20: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              They flew where, as and when they wanted. For example, they stole the Soviet radar from the Egyptian rear.


              Sorry if you have ignorance or a memory failure - I don’t know where you were during this period, but I was in the Suez Canal zone and I really do not need to tell and distort tales. As I wrote, yours flew where they wanted only until our air defense division was transferred to Egypt - and after that, shish - they no longer allowed you to fly and inflict BShu with impunity - and you suffered considerable losses, washed you the way the Arabs didn’t wash before and that same fracture came ...
              And as for the radar - P12 - so it was also captured in the fall of 1969 from the Egyptians on the Red Sea - again before the arrival of our contingent. Therefore, do not cast a shadow over the wattle fence - I am a direct participant
              these events - save your bragging and toughness for those who do not know .. hi
        2. creak
          creak 22 September 2015 11: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor

          Quote: rangerAnd the further course of hostilities could be broken only when our soldier harnessed to business - Somehow I missed when there was a turning point ... Do not remind?


          Let me remind you, professor, if you have such a memory - a turning point was outlined after the Soviet military contingent was transferred to Egypt in early 1970.
          After that, your planes no longer flew where they wanted, and as they wanted, and did not fly deep into Egyptian territory. And after your Air Force suffered sensitive losses, I won’t give you any numbers, you have your own statistics (unfortunately, there were losses from our side) - In the summer of 1970, a truce was concluded between Egypt and Israel ... Remember?
          Or maybe you did not suffer losses and went to a truce solely out of noble motives? .. wink
    3. dali
      dali 21 September 2015 10: 08 New
      0
      Quote: RiverVV
      How much money and effort went back in time to support the "Arab comrades" - and how did it end? With abandoned weapons and rusty airplanes at airbases ... They did not even care to blow up the remnants. With rare exceptions, these monkeys should not be given anything more complicated than a “Kalash”, but it would be better to limit themselves to shovels and crowbars.


      I didn’t understand you, what did the “Arab comrades” have to do with this Syrian base now?
      On this base, the Syrians fought as much as they could ... you even read the article or you can only watch the pictures, and you really didn’t even consider it (the technique was not working and not restored by the Ishilovites for sure).

      Here, by the way, the article is already in VO:
      http://topwar.ru/82715-300-spartancev-srazhalis-mesyac-a-300-siriyskih-specnazov
      cev-3-goda.html
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    5. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 21 September 2015 10: 24 New
      +1
      ..... They didn’t even bother to blow up the remnants ...

      .... Why ???? .... Anyway, scrap metal .... belay
  13. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 21 September 2015 09: 02 New
    +1
    Recently there was information that militants shot 54 captured defenders of the air base. Are these the same heroes from Abu al-Duhor airbase? Who knows - tell me.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 21 September 2015 09: 47 New
      +1
      Yes, those who stayed at the base and those who were caught up on the pickup trucks from among the retreating ones.
  14. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 21 September 2015 09: 29 New
    +6
    The base is of course a pity, although judging by the photo, there is nothing but rubbish and a dump of aircraft at the base of the pin ... sys and the Angles (do you really seriously believe that the Ishilians, armed mainly with the rifle, under the blows of aviation and artillery, were able to act freely in the desert?), Capture failed. If you believe the press, the base was defended mainly by special forces, numbering ~ 300 people.
    We do not know the state of the base, the complexity of logistics, and in general its necessity in the current conditions. It is not a secret to anyone that special forces of the USA, Great Britain and Turkey are fighting on the side of the propins.
    The West knows how to draw pictures, all their propaganda is built on lies, strictly according to the precepts of the papel of Goebels. If Syria falls, Israel will be the next, Americans are unlikely to allow them to use nuclear weapons. Yes, and this will not save them, the owner needs a war and a new Holocaust this time.
    Regarding Syria, let's see how they say ... spring will show who and where wed ... l ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 21 September 2015 10: 19 New
      +11
      "If Syria falls, Israel will be the next" ////

      Yes, we are in the know, thanks. We fill the warehouses
      bombs to the eyeballs.
      Pilots train in work on the ground constantly.
      1. yehat
        yehat 21 September 2015 10: 53 New
        +4
        why does not Israel help Syria?
        those who are fighting there with the Isis are certainly not enemies of your state.
        1. RiverVV
          RiverVV 21 September 2015 15: 47 New
          +2
          And for the same reason that Ukrainian military aircraft do not fly: they are afraid. Already something, but MANPADS with Syria at one time brought pretty much. The Americans are bombing from great heights, with minimal results, but they don’t give a damn about the result. This is not suitable for Jews. They would have to shave so that the guts would stick from the explosions to the lantern.
          But with a shaver, it makes me feel sick.
    2. yehat
      yehat 21 September 2015 11: 02 New
      +1
      The backbone of the really skilled Isil soldiers are former Iraqi soldiers, not Europeans.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 21 September 2015 11: 14 New
      +5
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      (Do you seriously believe that the Ishilians, armed mainly with the rifleman, under the air and artillery attacks, were able to operate freely in the desert?), they could not capture. If you believe the press, the base was defended mainly by special forces, numbering ~ 300 people.

      To begin with, the base was captured not by ISIS, but by the An-Nusra Front. Secondly, the militias in the Donbass under the same conditions (if the enemy had aviation) managed a lot of 8). Although the situation is not identical, who told you that they only shooter?
  15. Diviz
    Diviz 21 September 2015 09: 45 New
    -3
    it is necessary to group the Syrian troops to coordinate their offensive. must capture these bandits.
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 21 September 2015 10: 27 New
      +4
      ..... you have to capture these bandits ....

      .... Yes, yes !!!! .... And give them to women - izidki (Kurds) .... They know what to do with them .... lol
  16. Almatinets
    Almatinets 21 September 2015 09: 53 New
    +4
    I saw such stuff in peacetime, when I served at the airport. baboons will not extract anything useful from it, except for taking photos and uploading it to the Internet
  17. GRAY
    GRAY 21 September 2015 10: 12 New
    -1
    Quote: jarome
    Was it really impossible to pick up part of what flies and razed the FABs and NURSs to the ground with what was left so that Obama's military units could photograph only scattered opposition offal?

    There was a sandstorm, the aircraft did not fly.
  18. 31rus
    31rus 21 September 2015 11: 11 New
    +1
    There are a lot of questions on this article, starting from our help (volumes) and leaving surrounded by the base for 3 years and then asserting that the base didn’t matter? You explain this point of view to these dead people, but it’s obvious that the Syrians cannot survive without our help destined for us to get into it, we must remain for centuries and that no one president, ours, could not close them or withdraw bases, we have enough European experience
  19. iouris
    iouris 21 September 2015 11: 55 New
    +1
    What is happening with the Russian language?
    Quote (emphasis added)
    Despite the large number of FLYING (!) Ships found at the air base ...
    End of quote.
    The new "pearl" in addition to the "lethal weapon".
  20. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 21 September 2015 11: 59 New
    +3
    Popyrchaty “For starters, the base was captured not by ISIS, but by the An-Nusra Front.” Secondly, the militias in the Donbass under the same conditions (if the enemy had aircraft) succeeded a lot 8). Although the situation is not identical, who told you that they only have a shooter? ”

    I don’t want to understand shit varieties, all of them, as the Strugatsky’s said ... wanted something strange ... and ended up with a pind ... mongrels destroying their people and the land of their ancestors. Regarding weapons, it was said mainly, and not only, I hope the difference is noticeable? Yes, and in the Donbass the situation was still different.
    voyaka uh IL "Yes, we are in the know, thanks."

    So it doesn’t help. Your guide kerosene in the fire is very active. During a fire, first of all, they put out the fire, and do not spoil the neighbors and negotiate with the arsonists. I am not gloating at all, ordinary people always suffer (... the shrunken branches are truncated ...), but such actions are a suicide weighed down by masochism. Again hope for "Russian Vanya"?
    Probably save this time.
    In the photo: defenders of the airbase, soldiers and officers of the second regiment of special forces of Syria.
    For three years now, Syrian special forces have been defending the base, fighting in complete surroundings.
    1. vidmid
      vidmid 21 September 2015 15: 50 New
      -6
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      For three years now, Syrian commandos have been defending the base, fighting in complete encirclement.

      strange, 3 years - not 3 months. What have they been eating all this time?
    2. RiverVV
      RiverVV 21 September 2015 15: 50 New
      -9
      Well so cyborgs!
      In the photo, by the way, by no means 300. A man is forty in strength. The rest, you see, were dismantled for parts in three years, or gobbled up by hunger.
      1. RiverVV
        RiverVV 21 September 2015 16: 54 New
        -3
        A minus that? Three years surrounded! Everyone wants to eat, that's forty pieces left. I’m not saying that they always ate their own. Sometimes ISIS probably came across a spit. Bottom right - Avon which he ate himself for ...
      2. dali
        dali 21 September 2015 20: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: RiverVV
        Well so cyborgs!
        In the photo, by the way, by no means 300. A man is forty in strength. The rest, you see, were dismantled for parts in three years, or gobbled up by hunger.


        Yes, you look like dill ... but look how much was hiding under the Russian flag ...
        Or I haven’t read about the supply of the base yet ... so then you will be back to first grade, learn to learn by syllables !!! laughing

        I escaped from dill ... so do you have time to go back ?!
  21. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 21 September 2015 12: 20 New
    0
    the peace process will begin when the route for the Qatar pipe is ready
  22. gallville
    gallville 21 September 2015 14: 35 New
    0
    Strange situation. The base is virtually no aircraft. The contingent of the guard trained in battles.
    We saw the same concentration of forces. It was impossible to evacuate before the storm? Again, the base is not mined? Strange approach.
  23. Petrik66
    Petrik66 21 September 2015 15: 40 New
    +1
    I already see that the joint Israeli-Russian troops liberating Syria from Wahhabis while financing the operation by the Saudi king personally under the guarantee of the US Federal Reserve. Obama - presents Silver Stars to Iranian tankers and Merkel on the Leopard with EU flags shouting - TO ISIS !!! Unaccompanied special forces groups from Europe, led by a gay American minister, scoff at captive militants ...... Sometimes one gets the feeling that everyone was smoked.
  24. Seryoga Ural
    Seryoga Ural 21 September 2015 16: 19 New
    +5
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    could not destroy? just dropped everything. somehow it’s not clear there are fighting ... what

    In the Donbass, when the Ukrainians fled from the boilers, how many serviceable weapons were left. And here only either unnecessary or trash, in short unnecessary trash is only shown. And the fact that the Syrian troops held the defense for almost three years in complete encirclement is strong!
  25. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 21 September 2015 17: 06 New
    +1
    for «RiverVV (7) RU Today, 15:50 ↑ New
    Well so cyborgs!
    In the photo, by the way, by no means 300. A man is forty in strength. "The rest, you see, were dismantled for parts in three years, or gobbled up by hunger."

    You probably didn’t hear about air supply, and you didn’t read the article carefully about service. Until recently, aviation operated from the base, the environment and siege are different. Regarding the "cyborgs", this is our common misfortune and not a reason for slander. Russians kill Russians, and those who become fascists kill opponents because they are Russians. This is just grief, our common misfortune. Oh you.
    I thought they drove Dushmans around the district, carrying out the tasks inherent to the special forces unit and carried out security service. It is difficult for them, but they fight, and do not throw a known substance at the fan and do not pose as refugees.
  26. andrew42
    andrew42 21 September 2015 17: 22 New
    -1
    Not yet evening. You can wang in the style of "Syria has not fallen yet," but you can grit your teeth and break it, giving rise to a new reality, contrary to all the predictors. If Russia drastically and competently pulls in, you can cleanse Syria in a month or two.
  27. reklats34
    reklats34 21 September 2015 18: 01 New
    0
    who gives up so do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbK-J2uWwX8
  28. Professor
    Professor 21 September 2015 19: 17 New
    -9
    Article plus. The picture of the destroyed enemy aircraft and the enemy air base cannot but rejoice. good
    1. yushch
      yushch 21 September 2015 21: 53 New
      +2
      Trolling failed hi .In the article it is written that the flying equipment was transferred to another airfield, and what remained was scrap metal. Well, the base has no tactical point of view, because the article says that it is on a plain surrounded by strategically successful heights. People are sorry for it, but everything else can be restored.
    2. tenere1200
      tenere1200 22 September 2015 23: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Professor
      Article plus. The picture of the destroyed enemy aircraft and the enemy air base cannot but rejoice. good

      So rejoice. Why are you so weakly happy? Many who were happy when the SS erased the towns and villages in my homeland, and so hated by you Raska. And now there is reason to be excited when a gang of subhuman shot 60 defenders of their land. Just remember, it’s not they who came to your land. Yes, like, and you're not at work. But I see joy in your messages. Therefore, do not think that you will get away with it. God is not timothy. He sees a little ... Yes, and do not ask again why you. Do not try to look stupid. With class enemies the only way.
    3. other
      other 28 September 2015 15: 37 New
      0
      prof! and who destroyed? our friends? laughter you and only!
  29. Kingdino
    Kingdino 21 September 2015 19: 59 New
    -4
    Despite the large number of aircraft found at the airbase, its capture will not have a significant impact on the air campaign of the Syrian air force. In fact, it can be assumed that the capture gives the Air Force a respite they need so much, given that they are now spared the task of supplying the large garrison that occupied Abu ad Dukhor airbase. However, the fall of the airbase was another important reminder of the fact that survival, not to mention victory, is not so guaranteed by the Assad regime. A fact that did not go unnoticed for his supporters abroad.

    Is all a good marquise? ALL GOOD ALL GOOD !!)
  30. Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 21 September 2015 20: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Article plus. The picture of the destroyed enemy aircraft and the enemy air base cannot but rejoice. good

    Dear Prohvessor! If you continue to rejoice in a similar picture, then soon your airbases and your equipment will look the same. It is not necessary to rejoice, but to unite against a common enemy.
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 September 2015 20: 27 New
      -9
      Quote: Fil743
      Dear Prohvessor! If you continue to rejoice in a similar picture, then soon your airbases and your equipment will look the same. It is not necessary to rejoice, but to unite against a common enemy.

      You see, Igkhoreshka, our enemy is an Assad regime that has repeatedly attacked us. And we will deal with the bearded children and without your advice. You first restore order at home, and then teach others.
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      3. mirag2
        mirag2 21 September 2015 22: 30 New
        +2
        You first restore order at home, and then teach others.
        -to you this is more than to treat us.
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        2. mirag2
          mirag2 21 September 2015 22: 32 New
          +2
          "they are children" from your point of view:
      4. samoletil18
        samoletil18 21 September 2015 23: 19 New
        +1
        Professor! For many years I could not understand why Nasser needed a portrait of Hitler in his office. Your comment has explained a lot. He did not worship Hitler, but was thinking about the Holocaust. Why cause hatred in words and deeds? Netanyahu flew to Moscow clearly not to learn from Putin that Assad was not in Israel. How to finish off Syria, he would fly to Washington. And I don’t remember something when BASHAR Assad attacked you repeatedly. But Israel’s only Syria’s buffer for children with beards. Maybe the top of the Islamic State is on the content of Israel, but the lower level is sleeping and sees how you can get it up there. And the IG has chemical weapons.
        1. Professor
          Professor 22 September 2015 07: 32 New
          -4
          Quote: samoletil18
          ! For many years I could not understand why Nasser needed a portrait of Hitler in his office. Your comment has explained a lot. He did not worship Hitler, but was thinking about the Holocaust. Why cause hatred in words and deeds?

          Welcome to the adult world. In this adult world, Syria and Israel have been at war since 1948, and I am extremely happy when the army goes down the drain at my enemy. All of these missiles, bombs and planes were designed for just one thing - to kill us.


          Quote: samoletil18
          And I don’t remember something when BASHAR Assad attacked you repeatedly.

          the Assad regime attacked and the optometrist of the bearded children and armed them with weapons.

          Quote: samoletil18
          But Israel’s only Syria’s buffer for children with beards.

          Yeah, from Hamas and Hezbollah?

          Quote: samoletil18
          Maybe the top of the Islamic State is on the content of Israel, but the lower level is sleeping and sees how you can get it up there. And the IG has chemical weapons.

          And what is the difference between IS, Hamas and IRA?

          Quote: Fotoceva62
          Well, with this approach you will soon reap the storm.

          The storm is already outside the window.

          Quote: Iskander
          Well, rejoice at your Jewish site. Or is it still more pleasant to troll on OUR?

          Something did not notice on the main page: "Entrance to the Jews is prohibited." wink
          1. other
            other 28 September 2015 15: 32 New
            0
            Professor! and Assad will not be! that the world will come here !?) funny as that! The border with Syria has been calm for many years! Syria did not often recall the Golan Heights that this is its territory! So what!? Well, they would say things and now would be there! Now what? If Russia does not help now, then the professor will need to chop palm trees (near the house, stake a couple) and yank from here! Since all this evil will come to us! I don’t think that you are such a distant person! And America, alas, will throw us! They have a lot of experience in kidalovo!
      5. would
        would 22 September 2015 15: 33 New
        +3
        After the phrase "we will figure it out," we can safely say that if the Government of Israel thinks so, we can safely begin to prepare coffins now, bravado is the first sign of defeat, the underestimation of the enemy the second. And the enemy is ready to bring to their knees a few which are no states, but after taking possession of them, they will begin to build up their strength.

        And if you can agree with Syria and Assad, live in peace, then Islamic fanatics are not happy with the fact of the existence of some kind of Jews.
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  31. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 21 September 2015 20: 22 New
    +3
    «Professor (7) IL Today, 19:17 New
    Article plus. The picture of the destroyed enemy aircraft and the enemy air base cannot but rejoice ”


    Well, with this approach, you will soon reap the storm. It's time to change the repertoire and role. For Israel does not become a "wise monkey watching the battle of two tigers." Your choice, have the right. Peace to you...
  32. zinander
    zinander 21 September 2015 22: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Fil743
    Dear Prohvessor! If you continue to rejoice in a similar picture, then soon your airbases and your equipment will look the same. It is not necessary to rejoice, but to unite against a common enemy.

    You see, Igkhoreshka, our enemy is an Assad regime that has repeatedly attacked us. And we will deal with the bearded children and without your advice. You first restore order at home, and then teach others.
    Well, rejoice at your Jewish site. Or is it still more pleasant to troll on OUR?
  33. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 September 2015 02: 13 New
    0
    Any local victory of the opponent makes him morally stronger, and this is important in any martial art. A sandstorm helped the opposition take over the base. Poorly. I believe that there are problems with the command in the Syrian army. Instructors need not only recruits to train.
  34. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 22 September 2015 05: 39 New
    +1
    these professors fucked all kinds of kazly (I’ll call these things by their proper names) the Israelis-god-chosen gods dance .. Hamas you danced in F - oh - pooh not x on x here to do it .. he’s glad you ram to kill those and your family will cut the fire
  35. serzh savchenko
    serzh savchenko 22 September 2015 12: 24 New
    0
    As they say: a good mine with a bad game. The Syrian army shows its complete inability to solve combat missions. Guerrilla warfare of militants complicates the activities of the army, which has outdated weapons. Iran, solving its diplomatic problems, did not provide effective assistance to Assad. Russia was preoccupied with its political image in preparation for the Winter Olympic Games. Currently, the situation has radically changed. As Putin said: Masks are ripped off, we are on the verge of World War 3. It is a pity for the dead Syrian soldiers who needed to be rescued. Generals who cannot save their soldiers are doomed to defeat. An army tries to insight insider. I would advise the author of the article to work on the semantics of texts.
  36. Vladimir
    Vladimir 22 September 2015 16: 49 New
    0
    The destroyed airbase is certainly a terrible sight and everything can be understood, war is war. But why, with such a long defense, and even more so anticipating the outcome, it was impossible to mine what was left and what could not be taken with you, although in order not to be photographed with a victorious look. In Afghanistan it seems nothing was left for nothing.
  37. xomaNN
    xomaNN 22 September 2015 17: 32 New
    +1
    The Syrian army is really fighting, and for the most part leaves the enemy already unrecoverable weapons. Compared to the abandoned Egyptians in 1967 and 1973 by hundreds of FIXED tanks, missiles and planes, these are fighters!