"The belief that the damned West is to blame begins to weaken."

Mikhail Delyagin believes that by next year the political situation will change.

“The past elections are a passing event, a rehearsal of the storm that awaits us in 2016. An opportunity to see whether the Crimean freeze continues or not, ”economist Mikhail Delyagin said at a round table on September 16 in the press center of IA REGNUM. He noted that the federal government has many problems ahead. “Everyone understands that the economic crisis will develop and develop into a political one. The numb power is waiting to be covered. The wonders of technology are taking place within this trend. The federal agenda is dictated, but in the regions too much importance is attached to it, as if there are no problems of their own. When the elites start to fight each other fiercely, it is even good for the regional authorities, because it distracts from problems, ”the economist noted.

Delyagin called “good news“That the political system as a whole has been preserved. “Fair Russia” has not gone anywhere. They groped for the classic formula: Putin, Crimea, housing and communal services. In general, the main institution of politics is a good king, bad boyars. It struck me: even Zhirinovsky said that 1,5% of votes were stolen. This is what is called fair elections or close to that, ”he noted. - There will be another governor in Irkutsk, the head of Tatarstan scored 96% - basically, the past elections brought good news, but by 2016, the situation will change very much. I'm not sure that the Crimean story will end. Our society will not jump out of the rut in which it is now, ”the economist said.

Speaking about future elections, Mikhail Delyagin expressed the opinion that when a sharp deterioration of the situation occurs, the society rallies around power. “But this is not infinite. The problem is that we are in a state of crisis since 2012, since then the incomes of the population began to decrease. Now they say that the damned West is to blame for everything, they are believed, but this faith is beginning to weaken, ”the economist concluded.

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[asiat_61]

The easiest way to blame someone, while not trying to do anything. Read Glazyev with his program.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: asiat_61

The easiest way to blame someone, while not trying to do anything. Read Glazyev with his program.

anyone can read, even Starikova, even Nietzsche, but by itself, nothing will change.

[asiat_61]

The downside is not mine. The bottom line is that smart people are for some reason not in demand.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: asiat_61

The bottom line is that smart people are for some reason not in demand.

It doesn’t reach smart people that they sorrow from the mind.
Delyagin, an ordinary idler who did nothing useful for Russia.

“Well, find me an example in history when they respected a peasant, that is, a breadwinner? But some consultant, referent, musicologist, theater expert, literary critic, art critic and Vedas, and Vedas, and Vedas, and Vedas ... any number of these ... cereals, colossal concentrations of these, so to speak systems, receive money that does not dreamed of a peasant who feeds him. What is it? Parasitism, parasitism in its purest form."D.V. Arseniev

[Erg]

A very good movie. Thank. I realized that not one ...

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Erg

A very good movie. Thank. I realized that not one ...

This is normal.

“If you want to live in paradise, never touch the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. I somehow really imagine that every morning all these scientists come to their institutes, turn on their devices and synchrophasotrons, split, hammer science, saw the branch on which we sit and knock on the doors of hell. Because it will not give anything to a person. We will not live on Mars and we will never be able to understand what "autumn time, the charm of the eyes" is. We will never take away from the Earth what it gave birth to. We are destroying our world in which we live. We are losing this paradise endlessly eating the fruits of the Tree of good and evil of knowledge. " D.V. Arseniev.



PS Watch the film "Russian Reserve".

[BMP-2]

Something vague doubts torment me that all our troubles are from a great mind ...

And all these calls to the "natural", justifying the uselessness of "cognition" - are nothing more than an excuse for laziness and stupidity ...

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: BMP-2

all our troubles are from a great mind ..

Only in this way and nothing else.

Quote: BMP-2

justifying the uselessness of "knowledge"

And this is your personal interpretation. And it has nothing to do with reality.

[BMP-2]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

Quote: BMP-2 justifying the uselessness of "knowledge" And this is your personal interpretation. And it has nothing to do with reality.

Naturally, personal. For, as one of the classics of Marxism said, practice is the only criterion of truth. And if cognition does not bring you any benefit in your subjective reality, I am truly sorry for you. But this is not a reason to declare knowledge - a disaster.

And in general, I think that things should be called by their proper names. If by "big mind" is meant "huge stupidity", then it should be called that.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: BMP-2

Something vague doubts torment me that all our troubles are from a great mind ...

It is, but not from the mind itself, but from its insufficiency. As one philosopher said, people are not mistaken because they don’t know, but they think they know.

Many prominent personalities, including rulers, or scientists like those who discovered nuclear physics, are guided by their intellect, i.e. mind. But in fact, the main thing in life is wisdom. Even if you have a mind for "discovery", at the same time there must be wisdom to understand the true necessity for people, whether it violates the harmony of the Earth's processes, there must be a heart to assess the correctness of the decision.

Quote: BMP-2

And all these calls to the "natural", justifying the uselessness of "cognition" - are nothing more than an excuse for laziness and stupidity ...

Sometimes it’s better not to do anything than break firewood. Haste is needed only when catching fleas (folk wisdom).

[BMP-2]

[quote = Max_Bauder] [/ quote]

Sometimes it’s better not to do anything than break firewood. Haste is needed only when catching fleas (folk wisdom). [/ Quote]

You are absolutely right: wisdom should be valued in life far above the simple mind and intellect. The question is different: is it possible to consider a person who has decided not to eat the fruits from the tree of knowledge to be wise? This mental vegetarianism, by definition, will not be able to return a person to paradise, but putting it again on the same level of development with animals is easy ...

Regarding what is better - to do or not to do - it seems to me that the key word here SOMETIMES. But if the process of doing nothing is delayed, then there is nothing good about it. So, here V. Vysotsky's position is closer to me: "Lay at least a tunnel along the river bottom ..."

By the way, Taoists have long noticed that it is even more difficult to learn CORRECT non-doing than to doing. But if anyone really understood what should not be done, it could well be considered wise.

[zubkoff46]

Haste is also needed in battle and in love ...

[satris]

That's it: we are back to nature, and the whole world is armed with new technologies, which we then have to buy.

[VEKT]

That is, if there is a reason, the Indians took everything for a bead.

[jaroff]

Before coming to their institutes, all of them and their family members look into the refrigerator every morning, and there are a legion of them, including my family. After all, working for the defense industry, you are only a consumer of real vital products.
Recently I was in the Crimea. Military town of Saki airfield. We go from the town towards Saki Lake, through the steppe and forest belt. Time is 12 noon. And here is a picture: a herd of cows, day milking, right on the road, each family milks its own, manually, in a bucket. And planes fly in the sky. Su-30SM, Su-24. And you understand that this peasant and his labor, these cows and milk were a thousand years before us, with all the rulers and social systems, will be after us. This is primary, these people, these cows and this milk. And we with our planes ... yes, we think we need them, but we start the morning with a refrigerator.

[satris]

And you go to a modern dairy farm - there automation is no worse than SU.

[jaroff]

The fact of the matter is that automation is not needed for this, we need grass, a cow and a man who grazes a cow, takes care of her and takes milk from her. And thereby feeds itself and others who produce nothing, but only consume.

[Throw]

And this is true, in the old-fashioned way.
But until the bad consumers start to select the cow.
And then you need a friend. With automation. And machine guns

[rkrp-vat]

The fact that the political situation will change, we know without Delyagin. The question is how to make it change for the better for the common people.
To go out alone on a road, you need someone to build this road first. It’s foolish to kick the Communists for allegedly wanting to first build a base and then tackle a person. On the contrary.
Back in 1894, young Vladimir Ulyanov conveyed the moral essence of the communists' task in the following words: "... the awakening of a man" in a horse "is an awakening that has such a gigantic, world-historical significance that all sacrifices are legal for him." Thus, the communists not only express and defend the interests of the working people, they do not just fight for them, they first of all want to induce the working people themselves to fight for their interests, for their human dignity, for the happy future of their children. Relying on god, king or hero is useless. Only yourself.
There will be no organized struggle, they will take away what we have today.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: rkrp-vat

The question is how to make it change for the better for the common people.

I say it again.
Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/

[WKS]

When the economic crisis, then only the lazy does not talk about its causes and forecasts for the future. The sense of these discussions is as much as the discussion of stormy weather. Crises come and go, this is still noticed at the dawn of capitalism, this one will pass.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: wks

Crises come and go, this is still noticed at the dawn of capitalism, this one will pass.

No way. Crises are MANUFACTURED, but there is no storm. This is the crisis of the end of capitalism. And where to stomp further, the human sheep are not up to date.

[meriem1]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: asiat_61

The easiest way to blame someone, while not trying to do anything. Read Glazyev with his program.

anyone can read, even Starikova, even Nietzsche, but by itself, nothing will change.

Nietzsche is not an economist. But it is definitely necessary to get acquainted with his works to any person who wishes to think.

[Nick]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Quote: asiat_61

The easiest way to blame someone, while not trying to do anything. Read Glazyev with his program.

anyone can read, even Starikova, even Nietzsche, but by itself, nothing will change.

Delyagin has been singing this moor for about seven years, but the caravan is on its way.

[Marxist]

Delyagin has been singing this moor for about seven years, but the caravan is on its way.

You forgot to add - WHERE is it going?

[alexng]

Movement is life. And it doesn't matter where the caravan goes, as long as not to liberalism and rapprochement with the "parasite".

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Nick

Delyagin has been singing this moor for about seven years, but the caravan is on its way.

Quote: Marxist

You forgot to add - WHERE is it going?

Quote: alexneg

Movement is life. And it doesn't matter where the caravan goes, as long as not to liberalism and rapprochement with the "parasite".

Relax - the caravan stands and will stand.

Vladimir Putin: “You see, we have not experienced any large-scale nationalization or a slide towards general administrative regulation. We have preserved free movement of capital and the convertibility of the ruble. I am sure that all this served as a convincing signal for investors, and I want to emphasize once again and say: there will be no return to the past. Russia will remain liberal market economy. Today I want to repeat once again: we will consistently continue the line of encouraging private initiative, of integration into the world economy, on the formation of a favorable investment climate ".
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=317679

"Will remain" means that it will be the same as when these words were uttered in 2009.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Uncle Joe

"Will remain" means that it will be the same

You made the wrong word, nmv, the key. Not "will remain," but "integration" should be emphasized here. Maybe you need to discern assimilation и integration? Before Putin, the West assimilated us, how the body assimilates food, and the output was dissimilation products, in other words, shit. Integration means that we are no longer food for the West, and henceforth we are going to encourage private initiative, stifled first by the Soviet government and then transnational corporations, to take effective and suitable tools from the world economy, which our communists did not do, but, say, the Chinese authorities . Have you considered this option?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Stanislav

Before Putin, the West assimilated us

You may have been assimilated, and the RF has been integrating purposefully since the 90s (starting with the IMF and the World Bank, and ending with the WTO) - everything else is empty favors in half with a play on words.

"Russia will remain a market liberal economy" - this is the main thing.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Uncle Joe

Russia from the 90s purposefully integrates

You need to clarify the concept of integration. The word comes from the Latin integratio - "connection" - the process of combining parts into a whole. What is the integration of the 90s ?! The pure assimilation by the West of a hefty piece of meat in the form of the former USSR. Meat never integrates anywhere. Russia choked only because of its vastness, and of course to Putin. Demands of the liberals to divide Russia into several parts began to sound loud just when the process of its disintegration began to slow down.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Stanislav

Russia choked only thanks to Putin.

So Putin doesn’t like this enclosure of Joe. Against Putin, he spreads propaganda here.

[Stanislas]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

breeds propaganda

I’m not bothering him, just let him breed propaganda, and not lox, distorting concepts in this way. It is more interesting to discuss with a competent propagandist than with a steamer sharpie. Hedgehog understands that the West never needed the Russian Federation as an integrated (integral) political organism.

[Stanislas]

Quote: Stanislav

Quote: VseDoFeNi

breeds propaganda

Hedgehog understands that the West never needed the Russian Federation as an integrated (integral) political organism

PS If to the end, then I would say this: right now Russia has begun to integrate into the Western liberal economy, and before that it was stupidly assimilated, that is, disintegrated (dismembered) and used according to its needs (devoured alive).

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Stanislav

What is the integration of the 90s ?! Pure assimilation by the West

The most direct, as a gas station, and conducted not by the West, but by local compradors.

Assimilation - assimilation, merging, assimilation.
To assimilate someone means to deprive him of his inherent qualities, replace them with his own, and liken himself, making him equal to himself.

No West ever intended to make Russia equal to itself.
It is not the West that wants to assimilate the Russian Federation, but the Russian comprador elite is eager for this assimilation and for the last 15 years has been doing everything for its implementation - starting with the fetish of the liberal economy and children living in the West, and ending with the reforms of the entire social sphere in the worst Western manner.

Quote: Stanislav

Demands of liberals to divide Russia into several parts began to sound loudly

What kind of liberals?
Those who shout at Bolotnaya - "you give privatization, liberalization, integration!", Or those that in the Kremlin really give this privatization, liberalization and integration?

[VEKT]

Movement is life. And it doesn't matter where the caravan goes, as long as not to liberalism and rapprochement with the "parasite".

It’s important, it’s very important where it goes. In our country, as in ancient wisdom, a ship that does not know where to sail, no wind will be fair.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Marxist

You forgot to add - WHERE is it going?

To the victory of communism in the second round, one was in 91.

[Wheel]

Quote: Marxist

You forgot to add - WHERE is it going?

Where sent, there goes ....

[afdjhbn67]

But we are only at the beginning of the crisis, what’s next, God knows ... soon we’ll finish the subcutaneous fat, and I wonder what binge is?

[mirag2]

. Read Glazyev with his program.

anyone can read, even Starikova, even Nietzsche, but by itself, nothing will change.

all the more that Glazyev's program was written for "quiet dissent." Just like 10 years ago, he proposed to nationalize the subsoil. Then he was also "read" ...

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: afdjhbn67

I wonder what binge?

People will be forced to return to their origins, to the natural way of life, to collect bit by bit what we still managed not to lose.

[afdjhbn67]

And what about you, All the damn thing, the bearded inadequate suffered ...?

[VseDoFeNi]

How would you more clearly ...
Man in his entire history has not created anything. that would not harm us directly or indirectly.

“Well, find me an example in history when they respected a peasant, that is, a breadwinner? But some consultant, referent, musicologist, theater expert, literary critic, art critic and Vedas, and Vedas, and Vedas, and Vedas ... any number of these ... cereals, colossal concentrations of these, so to speak systems, receive money that does not dreamed of a peasant who feeds him. What is it? Parasitism, parasitism in its purest form. " D.V. Arseniev

What exactly is the Sterligov wrong in this video?

[Cube123]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

What exactly is the Sterligov wrong in this video?

Yes, at least in the fact that he turns everything upside down. In fact, the increase in the number of "idlers" is associated with an increase in labor productivity. It is not necessary now to feed the country to make all the peasants. Is it not clear that one machine operator on a tractor can cultivate much more land than a thousand peasants working the land with a plow on a horse? But a peasant cannot build a tractor, and an airplane cannot, and a nuclear power plant ... Therefore, everyone is needed: peasants, workers, scientists, engineers, even artists - and they are needed. Yes, and Sterligov's video was shot on equipment that the peasant will not create. Therefore, the ending of the video is expected - this is a lecture for the peasants, as in that anecdote about a lecture in a village club

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Cube123

Is it not clear that one machine operator on a tractor can cultivate much more land than a thousand peasants who cultivate the land with a horse-plow?

Is it not clear that this does not liberate people, but only produces new slavery?
You can’t work 1 hour a week at a consumption level sufficient for a normal life. You are forced to run in a circle like a circus horse.

Quote: Cube123

But the peasant will not be able to build a tractor, and the plane will not, and the nuclear power plant ..

Yes and good !!! And we don’t need tractors and Fukushima with Chernobyls.
Read My Life. My Achievements by Henry Ford. You may begin to understand.

We do not need new discoveries. We need fresh air, clean water, real food - which means healthy children. Source: http://www.ebftour.ru/news.htm?id=8465

Here Sterligov designated GOAL - healthy children. And scientific and technological progress is aimed at earning money by moneylenders-bankers.

[Cube123]

In fact, Sterligov’s video, in my opinion, is simply an agitation designed to justify the de-industrialization of the Ukrainian economy.

"And we don't need tractors and fukushim with Chernobyls."

You don’t need, but I need Why do you think that everyone should live according to the patterns you created? Refuse from the computer, from the Internet, from our forum, finally, if you are such an ideological opponent of technological progress Sterligov did this, but this does not mean that everyone should do the same.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Cube123

Why do you think that everyone should live according to the patterns you created?

These patterns were created not by me, but by God or Nature, to whom. as you like more. And to break without consequences these patterns is impossible in principle.

Quote: Cube123

Refuse from the computer, from the Internet, from our forum, finally, if you are such an ideological opponent of technological progress

In other words, you tell me - yourself. And this is not an argument.
Yes, and Sterligov did not completely refuse.

[Stanislas]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

These patterns were created not by me, but by God or Nature, to whom. as you like more.

Excuse me, do you wear pants, or run (according to natural patterns) without pants? I think you do as you like, use all the available benefits of a civilization based on the division of labor and cooperation, and call others "back to Nature."

[rosarioagro]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

And we don’t need tractors and Fukushima with Chernobyls.

It’s like, and what will the peasant plow with - wooden plow or something, who will melt, roll, cut metal on the production tools, and he won’t tighten the glass on the windows with a bull’s bubble and don’t need dishes from wood or medicine - God gave - God - I took it, but it’s also not necessary to print textbooks for children, this is all an industrial evil, so you can reduce the population in a single territory, make it an obedient, illiterate mass, which is what the West is striving for

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: rosarioagro

and what will the peasant plow with - a wooden plow or something, who will metal him with tools

In ancient Sumer, 5000 years ago, over the centuries, annually received crops of wheat and barley at 250-300 centners per hectare. We know this from cuneiform tablets.
Today, these crops are unattainable with modern tillage technologies.

Everyone today lives for money, not understanding what it is.

[Cat man null]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

In ancient Sumer, 5000 years ago, over the centuries, annually received crops of wheat and barley at 250-300 centners per hectare

Quote: VseDoFeNi

We know this from cuneiform tablets.

And they (tablets) for sure - read correctly?

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Cat Man Null

their (tablets) exactly - correctly read?

You still won’t believe it.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Cat Man Null

their (tablets) exactly - correctly read?

You still won’t believe it.

[VEKT]

That's right, nothing is needed. It is interesting how long people start to eat each other if they are deprived of modern energy, industry, medicine, and transport. Yes, those who survive will be very healthy, but there will be a million of them on the whole planet.

[satris]

"We will instantly show up to you - with shovels and pitchforks, Denechek will think about it - and we will correct the defect!" - V. Vysotsky

[IS-80]

Quote: Cube123

Yes, at least in the fact that he turns everything upside down. In fact, the increase in the number of "idlers" is associated with an increase in labor productivity. It is not necessary now to feed the country to make all the peasants. Is it not clear that one machine operator on a tractor can cultivate much more land than a thousand peasants working the land with a plow on a horse? But a peasant cannot build a tractor, and an airplane cannot, and a nuclear power plant ... Therefore, everyone is needed: peasants, workers, scientists, engineers, even artists - and they are needed. Yes, and Sterligov's video was shot on equipment that the peasant will not create. Therefore, the ending of the video is expected - this is a lecture for the peasants, as in that anecdote about a lecture in a village club

In this regard, the cry of some individuals about the low labor productivity in Russia is funny.

[afdjhbn67]

Do not spam your brain with these videos, usually you have adequate comments

[23 region]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

What exactly is the Sterligov wrong in this video?

Herman is always right !!!
German Sterligov: I suggest Putin to start printing real US dollars
http://trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&sid=42436
BLOCK!

[oracul]

Sterligov's reasoning is indeed an illustration of grief from the mind. A person is carried away and not jokingly, but such "philosophers" from life also have supporters. Still, big money spoils their owners.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: oracul

Sterligov’s reasoning is really an illustration to grief from the mind.

Teach you how to live? I’ll learn with pleasure.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

Teach you how to live? I’ll learn with pleasure.

A man is a creator, he is called upon to create his own existence, otherwise he would remain a monkey, he should improve himself, raising his educational level and apply his acquired knowledge to improve the living environment around him, he must conquer diseases, research their causes and develop methods to counteract to improve the quality of food, the quality of his life, for this he will need to build various industries, power plants for all this, this is so brief, all this has already been explained and more than once under the Union, it is surprising that you do not know this or prefer to forget it

[SibSlavRus]

But each neglected problem that leads to a crisis situation and problematic issues has a specific surname or a group of surnames (by collusion or by the lobby, but with interest). These names proved to be short-sighted, incompetent, and sometimes just harmful elements. Something harsh punishments are not visible, to match the deed - at least life-long hard labor with confiscation. But impunity is the basis of permissiveness. What we have "happiness" to observe. Those in power (especially at the regional level) did not become poorer.
From arrogance and permissiveness (examples can be cited for an infinitely long time) bureaucrats and hedgehogs with them of various commerce, the population is raging. After all, it can not weakly fly along with the cops protecting them and other "hangers-on and tail-carriers."
Or, what is it that this power, which came on the wave of the coup d'etat of 1991-93, has little legitimacy, only due to re-elections? That in the event of socio-political upheavals (God forbid - war!) Someone will shed blood for their interests, replaced by lofty words about the saint? Wait, with such a policy and the socio-economic structure of the followers of L. Rokhlin, V. Kvachkov, L. Khabarov and others. Only this time everything can be different. The people will reconsider their PATIENT attitude towards illiterate and incompetent (but at the same time "their" and faithful) proteges.
PA Stolypin is absolutely right: "For those in power, there is no greater sin than a cowardly evasion of responsibility" and especially "In Russia they like to start reforms only because it is easier to hide their inability to rule." Tired, in a word. And worthy and truly smart people are not allowed into power. How else was Glazyev allowed to speak with a program document? Probably to divert questions to the Kremlin and Duma "perpetrators" of short-sighted (and therefore malicious) policy, eccentrics (with the letter "m"). They caught themselves, they say, until a roast cock in the ass pecked, as they say. What were the "heads" busy with before?
And the author in his right to a point of view supported by knowledge and analysis.

[maiman61]

It's right! When the authorities make WILD SALES for themselves, and the people are impoverished every day, this is for the time being! In our small town, bosses receive bonuses of hundreds of thousands of rubles, and workers of several thousand, how long will it last?

[Nina Czerny]

It is more important that Putin read this program, stubbornly supporting the liberal economic bloc of the government.

[Russian Uzbek]

Delyagin and Khazin:
- or you ask me how, or everyone will die !;)

[go21zd45few]

Speaking of the elections, why are the elections considered valid if 1500 voters in a polling station of 150 are 10% of the total. That is why the threshold of voter turnout was removed and the count was removed against all. Well, who needs such an election?

[Cat man null]

Quote: go21zd45few

why the elections are considered valid if 1500 people voted in a polling station of 150 - 10% of the total

Quote: go21zd45few

therefore, the voter turnout threshold was removed

Are you talking to yourself? They asked a question, immediately gave an answer ..

[ARS56]

It is precisely by the way Glazyev’s program was rejected by the liberal-oligarchic wing of the government that Delyagin is also right.

[siberalt]

"The belief that the damned West is to blame is starting to wane."
Hey you, up there! Don't pull out the context. Delyagin was not talking about this at all, and such faith did not exist. It was then about an internal problem in Russia, and not about letting off steam for the electorate - "The West is to blame for everything." Yes, only the author missed the main thesis of Delyagin - the system needs to be changed.

[iouris]

I attended a meeting with Glazyev. Conclusion: he is an adviser to the President. He is allowed to publish books, but government policy does not depend on Glazyev.

[rvRomanoff]

This is Russia, and not so long ago - the USSR. The economist greatly exaggerates the economic component of the political crisis. But he is also an economist. If there was a sociologist, I would sing to a friend.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: rvRomanoff

This is Russia, and not so long ago - the USSR. The economist greatly exaggerates the economic component of the political crisis. But he is also an economist. If there was a sociologist, I would sing to a friend.

oh her, her! The words of Karl Marx that Genesis defines consciousness have not yet been canceled by anyone.
purely in Russian- As you dig, so you sink.

[GRAY]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

oh her, her! The words of Karl Marx that Genesis defines consciousness

Marx lived in Europe and wrote about Europeans. They don’t have a bazaar, the view of the world around them depends on a piece of sausage in their teeth, it’s not in vain that they so easily took Hitler’s occupation, they don’t have any difference what kind of people they live under, if only welfare does not suffer.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

oh her, her! The words of Karl Marx that Genesis defines consciousness

Marx lived in Europe and wrote about Europeans. They don’t have a bazaar; a look at the world around them depends on a piece of sausage in their teeth

And we determine. And you don’t have to go far for examples. VNA Ukraine is all over Moscow, and the oaths are to blame. Do we mean the damned west? Is everything white and fluffy in domestic politics? All import substitution, plants built up, agriculture lifted from its knees? as the country was shaking from oil prices, it was shaking. Well, here the Saudis with OPEC are to blame (damned East, a delicate matter).

[GRAY]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

And you don’t have to go far for examples.

Brest Fortress. Siege of Leningrad.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: GRAY

Brest Fortress. Siege of Leningrad.

Gorbachev with empty shelves in stores, EBN with six-month delays in pensions and salaries ....
We have that the Great Patriotic War is still ongoing? (Brest Fortress, Leningrad, Stalingrad)

[GRAY]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

as the country was shaking from oil prices, it was shaking

Well? Do you really think that a "magician" will come and immediately the factories will be trampled right out of the ground and the necessary specialists will be born by themselves? And the dollar will immediately get scared and become 60 kopecks ...
Ukraine is generally an unsuccessful example - there Nazism is implicated in Russophobia, they will not say otherwise.

Do we mean the damned west?

And who created the conditions under which it is impossible for us to develop?
Previously, they did not rock the boat - everything was exactly the same, oil was pumping - we’ll buy the rest. All is well, all is well, the west is satisfied.
So, personally, I don’t want to go back - I will not die of hunger. And if Mui Ne starts like in Kiev, I will sharpen the longest screwdriver and quietly expand the "activists".

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: GRAY

Well? Do you really think that the "magician" will come and immediately the factories will be trampled right out of the ground and the necessary specialists will be born by themselves? ...

Do we mean the damned west?

And who created the conditions under which it is impossible for us to develop?

The wizard won't come. However, the government did not draw any conclusions from the 2008 crisis. There were conditions, and a stub. the fund was full, and we all rocked and rocked. and only when the pendal received from the West in the form of sanctions began to move. Everything is ambiguous with us, it is ambiguous. God forbid, what would happen according to the saying, “We harness for a long time, we go fast. And what about belolentochnikov, better not. I clench my teeth from "hot love" for them.

[GRAY]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

Everything is ambiguous with us, ambiguous.

Ivan Pobeda painted well about power, I agree with him, in principle.

[kalibr]

We, the West has created the conditions under which it is impossible to develop? And we mean so stupid that ... succumbed? And all the time, as we have problems - the West is to blame. Or maybe it is the government media that we are told that this is so? When someone else is guilty, you yourself can live as before - you do little and get a lot!

[GRAY]

Quote: kalibr

And we mean so stupid that ... succumbed?

Did you have a voucher? What did you do to him? Surely sold, but like all, and I also sold.
Did you realize then that you are selling a piece of your own country? For example, I realized this only later, when I was still in the mood to find out what kind of piece of paper it was.
For at least 10 years, “European integration” has been going on in our country - no worse than in the race, and with all the attributes, including American “advisers” in all ministries. In fact, Yeltsin picked up and continued the Gorbachev theme, and in 1991 there was no coup, in fact (that is why Gorbachev sat on the priest exactly, in his Foros) - the Caudle of traitors simply consolidated what had been achieved.
The Soviet people were deceived and robbed. We were more naive than stupid - we believed in "good uncles" from abroad who would teach us everything. But it was these "uncles" who arranged all this crap for us.
Well, what? They are not to blame, right?

[kalibr]

Before that, was this naive inspired, inspired that "there is bad", but not inspired? Yes? How many universities of Marxism-Leninism worked, do you know the graduation figures? I know! And they didn’t suggest it anyway! So it's something else, not naivety and stupidity, right? And the fact that it's really better there, Well, they can't EVERYONE be naive and STUPID, right? And again ... if there is someone to cheat without problems, then why not cheat? You don't need a knife on a fool, you will lie to him with three boxes and ...

[GRAY]

Quote: kalibr

And the fact that it’s really better there

Yes, that was exactly what was suggested. And these same university graduates then stuck in line at the McDonald's "restaurant".
By the way, these universities didn’t go in order to learn how to build communism, but in order to advance along the party line and, accordingly, in power, they went for tasty things, ideology has nothing to do with it.

[Andrey NM]

During the Soviet era, we were taught to be honest, especially in relation to "allies" and other foreign gentlemen. And we thought that if we cannot deceive, then how can they deceive us, not keep their word? Or maybe they won't. But in any honest family, as the saying goes, there are years. These are the years and took advantage of the naive honesty of the country's population.
The abundance of all kinds of experts annoys me. Wherever you spit, some director of the institute for any problems. And based on the number of these institutions, I had a firm opinion that they are not for solving these problems, but for putting them into practice, well, for developing and introducing new ones. I always want to say this, here’s the problem area for you, decide! What did the language suddenly take away in one place?
Foreign companies will never play patriots. Slightly smell fried, curl up the moment and run away. So much for the fall of the economy. But we cannot develop our own, because it is easier to buy American bonds than to invest in the development of production.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

The words of Karl Marx that Genesis defines consciousness have not yet been canceled by anyone.

I dare assure you that Karl deceived you. In fact, everything happens exactly the opposite.
Consciousness defines being.
Well, it doesn’t happen that at first a person buys a car and only then wants to buy it ...

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

I dare assure you that Karl deceived you. In fact, everything happens exactly the opposite.
Consciousness defines being.
Well, it doesn’t happen that at first a person buys a car and only then wants to buy it ...

I agree, I agree. I also want to buy everything a car (I realized), but the financial situation does not allow it. Money is a material thing, you can hold it, but consciousness ...

[VseDoFeNi]

I will tell you one case that happened to me several years ago.
I once go into a small husqvar shop. Three guys are sitting - sellers. I look at the window displaying a Husqvar’s wristwatch and their price is not humane.
I ask: - who makes the watch?
Answer: - Husky.
Me: he doesn't make hours.
One of the sellers with a dreamy longing in his voice: - Someday I will also make money and buy myself such.
Me: - Do you need money? Do you want to earn?
He: - Yes!
I: - buy yourself a tool and advertise in a newspaper - I make plumbing efficiently, expensively. You will earn $ 2000. But you won’t go.
He: - I won’t go.

Something like this ...

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

I once go into a small husqvar shop. Three guys are sitting - sellers.

doing plumbing quality, expensive. You will earn $ 2000. But you won’t go.
He: - I won’t go.

Something like this ...

Like that, like that, like that, yes. Only here I am afraid that the country will not be able to pull the country out of the crisis with one small business. Although there is a rational grain in your mind. But there are also schools, kindergartens, and people work there too. And if they go to do plumbing? Who will teach children?
But about the store and sellers I agree to 150%. Healthy foreheads sell cell phones.
In our city, too, recently there has been a construction boom - for the construction of shops. Especially pleasing furniture. So the words from the poem by S. Mikhalkov come to mind - "I will take you to the museum, my sister told me."

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

But there are also schools, kindergartens, and people work there too. And if they go to do plumbing? Who will teach children?

And I repeat again. While parents will throw their children at uncle's uncles and aunts who go to work not for the sake of strangers (ours), but for the sake of money, the situation will not improve. A man, the only species on the planet who teaches his children anything but life. (at the time, save this phrase for copy-paste, like my other statements known to you)

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

And I repeat again. While parents will throw their children at uncle's uncles and aunts who go to work not for the sake of strangers (ours), but for the sake of money, the situation will not improve. A man, the only species on the planet who teaches his children anything but life. (at the time, save this phrase for copy-paste, like my other statements known to you)

Something I do not understand you. Tolley all plumbing go install, expensively. Toli children learn everything themselves. You already decide. I'm a civil engineer. Sopromat know the theory of elasticity. And the daughter is an economist. And how would I give her the right education without outsiders uncle and aunt. Well, if you follow your thought (for copy paste) that we teach children anything but life. Then cheers, back to the cave. Life to learn.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

Something I do not understand you.

Learn-to-learn = learn-self = engage in self-education.
Stop blaming other people for your failures.

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

I’m a civil engineer. Sopromat know the theory of elasticity.

Kizhi, speak? Colosseum and aqueducts? ..

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

And the daughter is an economist. And how would I give her the right education without outsiders uncle and aunt.

You yourself taught it INSTEAD of kindergarten teachers, school teachers and university professors?

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

Then cheers, back to the cave.

You really don’t understand.
Here is not too lazy to watch this whole movie. Or at least 9:20

I go, work and build someone’s house to earn money to build my house. I’m building a house for a stranger, making money. I give this money to strangers and they build me a house. We get some kind of nonsense. Irina Baturlina.

[23 region]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

But there are also schools, kindergartens, and people work there too. And if they go to do plumbing? Who will teach children?

And I repeat again. While parents will throw their children at uncle's uncles and aunts who go to work not for the sake of strangers (ours), but for the sake of money, the situation will not improve. A man, the only species on the planet who teaches his children anything but life. (at the time, save this phrase for copy-paste, like my other statements known to you)

And I repeat

Host: A school is an enlightenment.

German Sterligov: School is corruption and not education today. Who is enlightened there? Why are you mocking? There is smoking, drinking, debauchery, drugs.

Host: There are no such items.

German Sterligov: Which? These are the main subjects in the modern school. The rest is optional, no one is almost engaged in this optional. What are we talking about on the political platform or are we really talking? Then give me the task of what can be said and what cannot. Why mock each other? Everyone knows what a modern school is; it is no secret to anyone.
“Only a foolish person who does not love his child gives him to school.”
Sterligov German - businessman, rabbit breeder, sheep breeder, goose breeder on the Ekho Moskvy radio station of March 31, 2009

“I do not want to rule our people - I wanted to, and then I got sick.” (German L. Sterligov)
Hermann? YOU???

[Kos_kalinki9]

“I do not want to rule our people - I wanted to, and then I got sick.” (German L. Sterligov)
Hermann? YOU???

No. A friend from star bards (judging by the video about the eco village). I thought the hippies were extinct, but no, they live however.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

A friend from star bards (judging by the video about the eco village). I thought the hippies were extinct, but no, they live however.

Not. Not one of them.
But they didn’t call me that a person in the whole history has done something that would not harm us directly or indirectly?
And doesn’t it seem strange to you that we were all deprived of the right to build our own house, driven into cages with iron doors? Cells with iron doors, these are apartments in panel houses. And millions of people lock themselves up at night with these iron doors, believing that this is a great blessing. Homo sapiens, however.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Sorry, from the sun, described.

[VEKT]

But they didn’t call me that a person in the whole history has done something that would not harm us directly or indirectly?

Smallpox vaccine.

[33 Watcher]

Yes, there’s not a grain here! This plumber wrote. But he will be the first to howl if the guys from the store encroach on his bread.

[Revolver]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

I: - buy yourself a tool and advertise in a newspaper - I make plumbing efficiently, expensively. You will earn $ 2000. But you won’t go.
He: - I won’t go.

So in order to be of high quality, you need to know from which end this tool is being held. Moreover, theoretical knowledge alone will not be enough, and some kind of experience is needed. Although I am educated as a mechanical engineer, I will not undertake any plumbing. Change the mixer - yes, I can. But the installation of a gas column is already too much for my skills, I gave $ 800 to a licensed plumber, but I know that I will not explode, and the city inspectorate just took it. Well, the truth is there with a guarantee of troubles, in the absence of paper on the installation signed by a licensed plumber, the warranty is invalid, and the device cost almost a piece of bucks.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Nagan

So in order to be of high quality, you need to know from which end this tool is being held.

Bears rode a bicycle ...
During World War II, children worked on a par with adults on machines ...

But this is not the point, but in the absence of the desire to EARN, there is a desire to RECEIVE, and these are very different things.

[Kos_kalinki9]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

During World War II, children worked on a par with adults on machines ...
but that you are all drawn to the Great Patriotic War. In May 75 years passed, as it was thanks to God, and the eternal memory of all those who died was over. What today should we put children in 12-14 years old at the machines?
But this is not the point, but in the absence of the desire to EARN, there is a desire to RECEIVE, and these are very different things.

The fact that young people now really want to Receive agree. I wrote about it myself about two weeks ago. We got minded. But I want to remind you of the well-known words - "The trouble is, if the shoemaker starts the ovens, and the cake-maker starts the boots"

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

The fact that young people really really want to receive now agrees.

So it was in the USSR. There is Koshasty's material "Essays on Downshifters", read it.

So. The first thing that distinguishes a downshifter from a normal person is that it brings down a deity named "the level of material consumption" from the pedestal, and puts it on a par with other values. In particular, with such a banal value as having free time not busy with work. Well, other things, like health.

A normal person does not perceive this action as normal. For him, the level of material consumption, expressed in the amount of money spent on a monthly basis (mind you, are not earned at all, but spent are two different things) is the most important thing that is valuable to him in this life. All other values ​​are crowded somewhere at the foot, and are hardly noticeable. So let's list them. This is free time. Health. Recreation. Sleep. The level of cultural and intellectual development. Communication with friends (and their very presence). Communication with the family (and its very presence). Parenting (and their very presence). And much more. A normal person is ready to sacrifice all this, and sacrifices hard, in order to increase the level of material consumption by a certain amount, say, 20%, during career growth. Money in this case has some mystical, religious significance. A normal person is not even able to think in this direction.

Downshifter returns money to their original function - not the end, but the means. Which immediately puts them on a par with other values, which means that it forces them to be ranked in order of importance, with weighting factors. And then it immediately turns out that spending ALL your time on making money is, to put it mildly, completely impractical. It is much more natural to devote to this fascinating process, say, half the time. And the remaining half - to other things. And immediately it becomes possible to have everything that was so lacking - and get enough sleep, and read books, and go camping, and raise children.

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

"The trouble is if the cobbler starts to bake the pies, and the baker starts to wear the boots"

The world famous composer Borodin was ... a professor of chemistry.

[33 Watcher]

You acted not honestly with a guy. Or lying to us.
1. How much does a tool cost?
2. Is he a plumber at all? No? How much do plumbing courses cost? If at all there are any. Or him prof. Do you need to finish school?
3. Did you offer him to engage in illegal business?
You see how many questions. And this is far, not all ...

[kalibr]

I have a desire to buy a house, but I do not have the opportunity. I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: kalibr

I have a desire to buy a house, but I do not have the opportunity. I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire!

Buy Kalash ..)))) You’ll surely sleep peacefully!! The troubled times begin.

[kalibr]

I have a good shotgun! And I myself, in addition to everything else, have a diploma of an instructor in bullet shooting ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: kalibr

I have a good shotgun! And I myself, in addition to everything else, have a diploma of an instructor in bullet shooting ...

I have a youthful rank, a long time ago ... I recently bought an air gun (a dream) ... I started howling from my relatives ...))))) I wanted to teach my son how to shoot, but .... I’ll teach you anyway!

[Stanislas]

Quote: Kos_kalinki9

The words of Karl Marx that Genesis defines consciousness have not yet been canceled by anyone.

These words are not Marx, but a semi-literate teacher of philosophy at a Soviet university. Marx public being determines consciousness. The point is not how you "burst", but what place you occupy in society, what relations are connected with other people. The Americans over there are eating so that they look like broilers, but where do they stomp?

[dsi]

Now they say that the damned West is to blame for everything, they believe them, but this faith is beginning to weaken, ”the economist concluded.

Who is talking? Everything is exactly the opposite. You say, the damned Putin is to blame for everything and get an answer in response to the rise of popularity. Putin is not just a president, he is a leader of the people. You are used to consider yourself smarter and as a result:
-I'm not farting! I will not fart! Puuuuuk! This is not Me, this is not Me ...

[kuz363]

Putin's popularity is a subjective thing. The main thing is to choose the right electorate and everything is in order. But the Russians thoroughly dusted the brains of power.

[VseDoFeNi]

From this place in more detail. Whose popularity is objective? And to whom the power of the brain is not powdered?

[Gardamir]

Putin's popularity is a subjective thing

Yeah, just why is Putin the opposite of Stalin? All repression is Stalin's fault. But factories were being built, Stalin had nothing to do with the country. But Putin joins the Crimea one by one, they do not pay salaries for the construction of the cosmodrome, but what does Putin have to do with it? The governors are stealing, it’s not Putin’s business to monitor the governors. Hospitals have been optimized, doctors have been reduced, Putin is above this, there is no time for him to deal with people. He defends Syria, but not Russians in Ukraine.

[Revolver]

Quote: Gardamir

Putin is above this, he has no time to engage in people.

Everything is relative. Walk on Putin’s predecessors. EBN, Brokeback, Chernenko - is that better than GDP? Is Marazmatik Brezhnev better? Or Khrushchev? There was only one decent leader on that list, Yu.V. Andropov, but fate has given him too little time.

[Gardamir]

Everything is relative

It depends on how you compare. More recently (how long ago I live) everyone was happy with their friendship with America thanks to Yeltsin, by the way all these Putin’s gas pipelines were extended under Yeltsin too. Thanks to Gorbachev, rampant democracy and glasnost poured into the country. Thanks to Andropov, Gorbachev came to power. And what is Brezhnev senile, and in recent years, health problems have begun.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Gardamir

More recently (how long ago I live) everyone rejoiced in friendship with America

Not all.

Quote: Gardamir

By the way, all these Putin’s gas pipelines are also stretched under Yeltsin.

IN USSR.

Quote: Gardamir

Thanks to Gorbachev, rampant democracy and glasnost poured into the country. Thanks to Andropov, Gorbachev came to power. And what is Brezhnev senile, and in recent years, health problems have begun.

Were they all traitors?

[Revolver]

Quote: Gardamir

More recently (how long ago I live) everyone rejoiced in friendship with America

If liberal Clinton had not rushed to bomb the Serbs, in many ways to divert attention from the scandal with Monica, maybe now they would be happy. Well, the cykin’s son knew that Russia would not take it positively, he climbed, there was no one else to bomb, or what?

[VseDoFeNi]

If.
You remind which states except Texas cut off from Mexico? This is Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, California. And who was pressed to remind Florida? In Spain.

The West has built its own well-being on the robbery of other countries.

[Revolver]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

You remind which states except Texas cut off from Mexico? This is Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, California. And who was pressed to remind Florida? In Spain.

And what about the Caucasus, Tatarstan, Siberia, the original Russian lands? China overlooks half of Siberia as its illegally seized territory. And Crimea became Russian only under Catherine, but was Tatar, and the Tatars did not forget this. If you look, any shred of habitable land many times passed from hand to hand. Like it or not, but relations between states are not more civilized than relations between prisoners in a cell. There you can declare any item your property, and it will be yours, as long as you have the strength or authority to keep it. And if there is neither power nor authority, then it's not that property, your point will go into public use.
Yeah about TX, NV, UT, AZ, NM, CA. The mexes quietly push them back. There are already areas where mexes are the vast majority. If this goes on with illegal immigration, then these states, and not only them, may become Mexico in fact.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Nagan

And what about the Caucasus, Tatarstan, Siberia, the original Russian lands?

Ku-klux didn’t clap for anyone. How many millions of black slaves did the Russians kill? - No one. And how many Russians killed the local Indians? No one. In Russia, all nations were included EQUAL.

Quote: Nagan

The mexes quietly push them back.

And rightly so.

[VEKT]

Yes, the Russian blacks did not stain, we stained ourselves.

[Mountain shooter]

Again, all the scouts were wound up. Just like a diesel generator. But I’m working in production, and I’m not seeing any decline. On the contrary, there are more orders. Who to believe? Maybe, where there is a decline, did something wrong?
Yes, banks do not want to lend to production. They do not know how, they may want, but they do not have specialists, to assess the risks of a business plan and the collateral that can be provided by production. This is a systemic problem, and it is "from the bottom", not from the top.

[VseDoFeNi]

Although you are my plus, like a dead poultice, but I pressed it.

Quote: Mountain Shooter

banks do not want to lend to production. They do not know how, maybe they would like, but they don’t have specialists, to assess the risks of a business plan and the pledge that can be provided by production.

They have a goal, it is MONEY !!!

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

But I’m working in production, and I’m not seeing any decline

Yah?

June 16, 2015 The decline in industrial production in the Russian Federation in annual terms in May accelerated to 5,5% from April 4,5%. The fall was the highest since October 2009. A significant drop in May was recorded in the manufacturing industry - by 8,3% after a decrease of 7,2% in April.
http://www.dp.ru/a/2015/06/16/V_RF_spad_promishlennogo_p/



August 10, 2015 The volume of Russia's gross domestic product in April-June 2015 decreased year-on-year by 4,6% after a decrease of 2,2% in the first quarter. The Ministry of Economic Development estimated the fall in GDP in the II quarter at 4,4%
http://www.dp.ru/a/2015/08/10/Rosstat_ocenil_spad_VVP_R/

27.08.2015/1/XNUMX Official unemployment in Russia is close to XNUMX million people.
As reported at a meeting of the working group on monitoring the labor market under the leadership of Deputy Prime Minister Olga Golodets, the number of employees in employment services grew to 960 thousand.
In addition, in the near future it is planned to lay off another 304 thousand people in various regions. As for the vacancies on the part of employers, their number has reached 1,3 million.
It is worth noting that official unemployment does not show the full picture. In practice, according to experts, it is necessary to talk about at least 3 million Russians who do not have a constant or even any income.
http://www.starguard.ru/news/id_2324/

But with the prices all right.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: Nagan

Everything is relative. Walk on Putin’s predecessors. EBN, Brokeback, Chernenko - is that better than GDP? Is Marazmatik Brezhnev better?

Under EBN, any citizen from the countries of the former union could obtain Russian citizenship within three months without any problems, now it is such a winding and amazing path - there are no quotas for temporary residence permit, there are, but as Vysotsky sang, "tea grows there, but I go there no need "," senile Brezhnev "was definitely better, in my opinion, since now this is the best period for the country until 1979

[Revolver]

Quote: rosarioagro

"senile Brezhnev" was definitely better, in my opinion, since now this is the best period for the country until 1979

Until 1976, Brezhnev, although not an outstanding, but relatively adequate leader, was certainly more adequate in relation to his predecessor Khrushchev. And in 1976 there was a blow, and even, according to the same Vicki, clinical death. Since then, Brezhnev has become the senile one who went down in history, a caricature of himself. And the country did not add either prosperity or authority.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: Gardamir

What does Putin have to do with it? The governors are stealing, it’s not Putin’s business to monitor the governors. Hospitals have been optimized, doctors have been reduced, Putin is above this, there is no time for him to deal with people. He defends Syria, but not Russians in Ukraine.

C'mon, electric trains who will steer if everyone does? :-)

[Nat1961]

It is important that the authorities and the president are not at a loss! It is important to prepare for the crisis now! to find economic methods mitigating the impact of economic decline on the people. Strengthen political power in the country! Crush liberals of all stripes! Explain to people why it happened! The most common mistake of the authorities is the silence about the causes and consequences of the crisis! no need to consider people as cattle, unable to understand the situation! Only the truth and the inevitable strengthening of power from top to bottom! There is no other way out!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Nat1961

It is important that the authorities and the president are not at a loss! It is important to prepare for the crisis now! to find economic methods mitigating the impact of economic decline on the people. Strengthen political power in the country!

you do not know that we will not get out of the crisis for several years ???

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

you do not know that we will not get out of the crisis for several years ??? request

The crisis is SYSTEMIC. Socialism did not take place, capitalism ENDS, and no one came up with a new model for the development of society.

Here from 20 minutes you can listen to why exactly capitalism ended.

[kuz363]

More precisely, about 15 years, while Putin is in power

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: kuz363

More precisely, about 15 years, while Putin is in power

Putin is alright?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

you do not know that we will not get out of the crisis for several years ???

a long time ago, like 25 years .....
And here is a short story ....., she’s 7 years old
https://youtu.be/WEyBwHlReNU

[kuz363]

The main thing is not to touch corrupt officials and thieves. Let them steal further. And to convince that for Russia it would be better if they did not interfere, but went to live to the west. With stolen goods. And the people will hunch forever, because instead of those who left, others will come out.

[kalibr]

Explain? And what does not explain? Is the explanation broken? As for the strengthening of political power, it will not be power, but dictatorship. In our country, and so the number of police and security structures at the level of 1991 year before the collapse of the USSR. It is less people, and protection ...

[udincev]

The problem is that we are in a state of crisis since 2012, since that time, population incomes have begun to decline. Now they say that the damned West is to blame for everything,

And in what year did the Union collapse and rush (where?) Russia?
Of course - "this is not the west." Itself, you know, everything is somehow arranged and adjusted ... And Georgia, and Ukraine and ...
And the East European dogs - suddenly, by themselves, turned out to be vicious mongrels.

[VadimSt]

"Kasyanovskoe", in fact, an anti-Russian insides, is still rushing. Where were they "such" collected recently, in Kostroma? Soon you will no longer want to go to the site - in the last couple of years such guardians and patriots have become, with someone's light hand, very popular.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: VadimSt

"Kasyanovskoe", in fact, an anti-Russian insides, is still rushing. Where were they "such" collected recently, in Kostroma? Soon you will no longer want to go to the site - in the last couple of years such guardians and patriots have become, with someone's light hand, very popular.

Oddly enough, Delyagin is a friend of Andrei Fursov. It comes to mind - say who your friend is and I will say who you are.

[Aleksander]

Delyagin's rejection arises right after him: "Everyone understands ... everyone sees ... everyone knows ...". You have to speak from YOURSELF.

[GRAY]

Quote: Aleksander

"Everyone understands ... everyone sees ... everyone knows ..."

Such characters often scorch on such things, this is the simplest method of manipulating public opinion - they play on the herd feeling.
Like: "the whole world knows it / does it - you alone, loshara"

[EvgNik]

Delyagin is a speaking surname. And "Fair Russia" has already managed to compromise itself, so nothing will shine for it.

[ML-334]

Where is the planning? Previously, a five-year plan, you know what to strive for.

[Bayonet]

Quote: ML-334

Where is the planning? Previously, a five-year plan, you know what to strive for.

And I do not want to be planned for me - which pants I will wear for 5 years, what is, how much and what to buy.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Bayonet

And I do not want to be planned for me - which pants I will wear for 5 years, what is, how much and what to buy. hi

It is commanded to regret, not to sin. We have a planet of free choice - nobody is capturing anyone. Man drives himself into slavery.

[Gardamir]

And I don’t want to be planned for me - which pants will I wear for 5 years, what is, how much and what to buy

You are a sir, seriously believe that in bourgeois Russia. you have more choices. than in the Soviet Union? Ideological barriers were changed to financial ones, which turned out to be more severe.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Gardamir

You are a sir, seriously believe that in bourgeois Russia. you have more choices. than in the Soviet Union?

If you recall the store shelves in the 80s and compare them with today's ...

Quote: Gardamir

Ideological barriers were changed to financial ones, which turned out to be more severe.

Carpets by appointment, crystal in a queue, books on waste coupons ...
Any carpets, crystal has lost value, books at least read dead, cars on credit with overpayments ...

But the matter is not in the shelves or choice, the fact is that people have ceased to engage in their development, both spiritual - books, for example, they read less, and they completely forgot about creative circles.
Something tells me that it bred. Well, don’t bring money happiness.

[Gardamir]

If you recall the store shelves in the 80s and compare them with today's ...

Leningrad, Moscow. Murmansk, Yoshkar-Ola, Tuapse, Riga, Tallinn, Kaliningrad, these are the cities I visited in 80, you may not believe, but everything suited me on the shelves. bare shelves appeared later. Another thing is important. In the Soviet Union, I had freedom of movement, I could go to any city, easily get a job. Try now.

Something tells me that it bred. Well, don’t bring money happiness.

And here I agree with you.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Gardamir

You are a sir, seriously believe that in bourgeois Russia. you have more choices. than in the Soviet Union?

Not only believe, but SEE! He lived 38 years in the USSR, so I can compare.

[oracul]

The choice in the USSR was really smaller than in bourgeois Russia. The only question is why? The answer is quite simple - due to the availability of everyone. The income level of different strata of the population was quite comparable, but the price was the same, for example, 1 kg of sausage cost 2 rubles 40 kopecks, 1 kg of cod cost 0,78 rubles (at the current 180-190 rubles). Conclusion - if the price "worked", the shelves would not gap with bald spots.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: oracul

Conclusion - if the price "worked", then the shelves would not gap with bald spots.

You don’t eat the sandwich correctly, Uncle Fedor. (c) Matroskin.
You just said that if there were capitalism, then the regiments would not have bald spots.

In fact, this is approximately the case.

Once upon a time there was a foreman. He built houses all his life, but became old and decided to retire.

“I'm quitting,” he told the employer. “I'm retiring.” I will be nursing with an old grandchildren.

The owner was sorry to part with this man, and he asked him:

- Listen, let’s do it this way - build the last house and we will retire you. With a good bonus!

The foreman agreed. According to the new project, he needed to build a house for a small family, and it began: coordination, searches for materials, checks ... The foreman was in a hurry because he had already seen himself retired. I didn’t finish something, I simplified something, I bought cheap materials, since they could be delivered faster ... He felt that he was not doing his best job, but he justified himself by saying that this was the end of his career. Upon completion of construction, he called the owner. He examined the house and said: “You know, but this is your house!” Here take the keys and dwell. All documents are already issued. This is a gift from the company for your long work.

What the foreman experienced was known only to him alone! He stood red with shame, and everyone around clapped his hands, congratulated him on a housewarming and thought that he was blushing with shyness, and he was blushing with shame for his own negligence. He acknowledged that all the mistakes and shortcomings had now become his problems, and everyone around him thought that he was embarrassed by an expensive gift. And now he had to live in the only house that he built poorly ...

Moral: We are all superintendents. We build our lives just like a foreman before retiring. We do not make much effort, believing that the results of this particular construction are not so important. Why unnecessary efforts? But then we realize that we live in a house that we ourselves built. After all, everything we do today matters.

Already today we are building a house that we will move into tomorrow. And how your house will be depends only on you.

[Bayonet]

Quote: oracul

by virtue of accessibility to everyone.

This is nothing but hypocrisy! Forgotten endless queues, and the words that disappeared from everyday life - "got", "thrown out", "gave", etc. Remember Raikin's miniature about the deficit, who are the respected people - "tuvarologist", "director of shops"

[Gardamir]

The choice in the USSR was really smaller than in bourgeois Russia

I already answered above. I’m not talking about that, not about eating and money. There was freedom of choice in a global sense. Now if there is no money, you can freely dream.

[TOR2]

Quote: oracul

The choice in the USSR was really smaller than in bourgeois Russia. One question - why? The answer is quite simple - because of the accessibility to everyone and everyone.

Actually, this is called underproduction of goods of group "B". And no one wanted to deal with this problem. Some comrades had to sit on the blockade, and not in the Kremlin offices.

[AID.S]

I also lived in the USSR and I agree with you that there was more choice, but, basically, a choice depending on the thickness of the wallet. But most people don’t have to choose it, and it didn’t happen before. The real choice was and is regulating thickness. Question - what category do you belong to?
And you can ask the Chinese about the choice. When they had more choices, until 1991 (before the collapse of the USSR) or now. Surely, like you, they will say that there was more choice. But their Chinese USSR would not collapse like ours. And if ours had not collapsed ?. ..More. Suddenly I realized that it was possible and shorter.
There is more choice. There are fewer rights.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: Bayonet

Not only believe, but SEE!

Yes, in the USSR, for example, I had a large selection of educational institutions, I looked through a whole directory where I just didn’t want to study, I chose something average in terms of distance from home and profile :-) Now the main criterion limiting the choice of opportunity is money

[Bayonet]

Quote: rosarioagro

where I just didn’t want to study, I chose something average in terms of distance from home and profile:

And I did not choose "according to the distance from home", but then the work was by vocation and brought satisfaction.

[kalibr]

I, for example, have much more!

[Bayonet]

Quote: kalibr

I, for example, have much more!

Congratulations! At least you quoted the one to whom you answer, otherwise God knows what you can think of!

[Stinger]

"The belief that the damned West is to blame begins to weaken."

And where did he get that this faith was and is? There is a fact that the liberal idea failed.

[venaya]

Quote: Stinger

... There is a fact that the liberal idea failed.

You know, I would not even call it a "liberal idea".
I go to any store, and it belongs to a foreign financial group, etc. What kind of freedom? Freedom of occupation, or what? And what does liberalism have to do with it. Isn't it better to use a more appropriate term.
Everything is so confusing.

[Bayonet]

Quote: venaya

I go to any store, and it belongs to a foreign financial group, etc.

All over the world like that. China bought up half of America and nothing, no one there screams - OCCUPIERS! By the way, OUR people work in that store, the store pays taxes to OUR treasury!

[venaya]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: venaya

I go to any store, and it belongs to a foreign financial group, etc.

All over the world like that. China bought up half of America and nothing, no one there screams - OCCUPIERS! By the way, OUR people work in that store, the store pays taxes to OUR treasury!

"By the way, OUR people work in that store, the store pays taxes to OUR treasury!" - Here, there is only a small trifle that you missed to my surprise. Why these retail chains do not want to sell the products of our enterprises either (factories, factories, farms, state farms and cooperatives). what Is this part of the overall strategy for the final destruction of domestic industry and agriculture ???
Please note that we do not have a single domestic trading network, all foreign chains are interested in selling their own, foreign products (well, as in Ukraine). And what is left for us: to develop the line of "Armata" and in the future to trade them and sell them to rich Arab sheikhs ...?
I think that the general law works here: complex quality (any, in any field), determined by its worst link. If you have rich practice, then you are forced to agree with me on this.

[Bayonet]

Quote: venaya

. Why do these retail chains do not want to sell the products of our enterprises (plants, factories, farms, state farms and cooperatives)?

And where does it go in your opinion? Or maybe we are not producing anything?

[Tatyana]

Quote: venaya
I go to any store, and it belongs to a foreign financial group, etc.

Bayonet

By the way, OUR people work in that store, the store pays taxes to OUR treasury!

Not really, dear Bayonet!
Firstly, in stores of a foreign financial group mainly foreign labor migrants work from Central Asia, etc., not OUR people (not Russians). Now, even cashiers, they have long been sitting at the box office.
And secondly, The store or company pays taxes to the state in whose country they are registered as a trading company. Therefore, for example, in Russia is foreign French chain stores pay taxes in France, not the Russian Federation.

[Gardamir]

There is a fact that the liberal idea failed.

But Vladimir Vladimirovich has a different opinion.

[Tktyfern]

Why this article, I would like to ask the author. There are too many outside observers and critics among our figures. Specifically, there are few who want to work for their country, using their outstanding abilities.

[Gardamir]

. Specifically, work for your country

what are you speaking about? Even if no one listens to the adviser to the president.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: Tktyfern

Why this article, I would like to ask the author.

This article is to strengthen people's discontent with the authorities. For the buildup of the situation in Russia and its complete dismemberment with further genocide of the people of Russia, as the Indians of North America.

[dvg79]

The author is right that the government continues to drown the economy. In general, I get the impression that it is precisely the government that drags the country to the Maidan by the scruff of its neck.

[Rader]

Quote: dvg79

The author is right that the government continues to drown the economy. In general, I get the impression that it is precisely the government that drags the country to the Maidan by the scruff of its neck.

OH YEAH! The author is right! He is right in that attempts to overcome the crisis look somewhat comical, and absolutely not effective ...
Yes, the worsening economic situation can change the political balance ... WELL AND WHAT? What new did Delyagin say? NEVER MIND! Alas, populists like Delyagin just earn political capital (which can then be converted into tangible assets ) Gobbled up what is already known and understandable to any sane person, and that’s it, the task has been completed! Needless to say, such actions are not worth these people for the good of the country ...

[yuriy55]

An empty article, because elections are a personal matter for every voter. And to weave a tangle of politics and economics, trying to add some connecting threads under the name "Fair Russia" and without it, is nonsense.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: yuriy55

for elections are a personal matter for every voter.

This is an illusion.
"There is noise and din in the stomach" - what will everyone choose after eating? ... indispensable for the stomach.

Lena Vurdalakina drinks cola, smokes marlboro, chews stimorol and eats three-throated gambugers at McDonald's. She always smells longer than gabbana, and Lena carries her iPhone in a bag from Louisville.
At the same time, Lena is sure that the advertisement does not work on her in any way, and a sick stomach and an empty wallet are her own choice.
Predatory snouts from TV screens in chorus support Lena in her naive delusion: "You are a free person, Helen, you are a smart and beautiful woman, you always absolutely voluntarily and independently choose which of us you dutifully take your next salary."

[ML-334]

I mean, the GOAL was what to strive for. I do not see a large-scale construction of factories but only pipelines. What about agriculture?

[yuriy55]

Marginal notes.

Quote: Nat1961

It is important that the authorities and the president are not at a loss!

It is more important that the Government and the President do not become like Krylovsky Swan, Cancer and Pike ...

Quote: Nat1961

It is important to prepare for the crisis now! to find economic methods mitigating the impact of economic decline on the people.

Andrei Yurievich has already said, Yuri Vasilievich agrees with him:
long, long, long, long ago ...

Quote: Nat1961

Strengthen political power in the country!

Strengthen the responsibility and equality of all citizens before the Law ...

Quote: Nat1961

Crush liberals of all stripes! Explain to people why it happened!

People are not dumber than the chosen ones. Popular wisdom has always stood on top and cost fewer words than power ...
And it is not superfluous to increase the responsibility of specific individuals for "why this happened"

Quote: Nat1961

The most common mistake of the authorities is the silence about the causes and consequences of the crisis! no need to consider people as cattle, unable to understand the situation! Only the truth and the inevitable strengthening of power from top to bottom! There is no other way out!

The authorities should take positive examples and meet with people on the street, in free communication. And here the President or the Minister of Defense meets with people more often than any head of the Tmutarakan or Muhos .... administration ...

[97110]

Quote: yuriy55

And here the President or the Minister of Defense meets with people more often than any head of the Tmutarakan or Muhos .... administration ...

Strongly said. So you (in the sense of you - since "with us") where do you live? What is the name of your head of administration? What does Tmutarakan or Mukhos have to do with it .... k. Is it really frivolous to call the NAME, and not fart instead of Zhenya, who is on maternity leave? I was overpowered by all those who constantly meet with the Head. They did not read the LCD, they are lazy to hold a meeting of the owners of residential premises in the MKD, it is easier to write to the governor about the parking lot in the local area. Or even cooler - to Vladimir Volfovich. Which will forward to the Governor. You, dear, are completely out of topic. But the trend is to shit on your chosen government according to the principle: "a series overboard, the river will take." You didn’t turn to your Head, it’s lazy, and how to turn - the crap will be visible.

[samoletil18]

I am currently watching a broadcast about a star about Sergei Rybnikov, a pilot who, until the last moment, was taken away by a failed fighter from school to a wasteland. Saved at the cost of his life 150 people. And switch channels, there will be an advertisement or a program about different Crimson boobs, and small pearls of nouveau riche.
What heroes - such a country. If you want import substitution, first demand the correct ideology from the authorities to achieve the goal. And when, what is not a corruption scandal, then the governor and higher ... but the preventive measures leave much to be desired. Through the State Duma of the Russian Federation, anti-corruption sounds come out against small bipods, and for "serious people" and serious indulgences. The authority of the authorities will end - the Maidan will begin.

[akudr48]

A numb power awaits to be covered

I think that Delyagin is mistaken in arguing about a numb power.

The authorities, for example, represented by the governors of Sakhalin and Komi (those who were allowed to arrest) were not numb, but continued to steal.

Around are pens and watches for a million $$, billions of cash, tens of billions of real estate and other war trophies.

And Secretary Peskov also respects millions of $$ watches, as well as villas for a billion. And what, he works, has a right. And this man is nowhere closer to our clear sun. What to say about others who also do not lose time ...

In the country, a thieves' feast during the financial plague, organized at the very top. Now they have no time for raising production, import substitution and other husks.

It makes no sense to expect good things from this "elite".

Does it make sense to rally around the authorities, looking like a country, without winning the Donbas, is being drawn into Syria, how it is eager to fight ISIS, with the turbulent Caucasus and the swelling explosion of Central Asia.
Previously, where they looked.

Now international affairs, in general, deeply failed, must be corrected by yet another war, which is useful because people are well distracted from internal affairs.

Dozens of news programs will show the people who have adopted the format of a TV viewer and even a talk show participant ...

No need to think for yourself, there is a TV, he will tell and explain, this is domestic policy.

[1aspid1]

You are all funny. And the article is funny. External factors yes affect. Internal factors basic - yes. About this Putin personally recognized at the beginning of last year. Are you ready to work more and buy only domestic goods and drive at AvtoVAZ? No? Don’t drink it. I read komenty already ridiculously tearing up the tummy))) one of the thieves in power is a bit too much. So let's shoot them and new thieves will come and we will shoot a lot of people. Others are seriously discussing the rejection of technology for evil. Especially for you I say Internet evil and you are very mischievous using it. What else is there ... Ahh support for the liberal bloc ... Let’s put the Communists in prison ... All my life I voted for the Communist Party and recently realized that I was pouring my voice into the toilet. Uncle Sue believes that we are on the verge of default. This is populism and incompetence. We have any problems in the economy but not default.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: 1aspid1

You are all funny. And the article is funny. External factors yes affect. Internal factors basic - yes. About this Putin personally recognized at the beginning of last year. Are you ready to work more and buy only domestic goods and drive at AvtoVAZ? No? Don’t drink it. I read komenty already ridiculously tearing up the tummy))) one of the thieves in power is a bit too much. So let's shoot them and new thieves will come and we will shoot a lot of people. Others are seriously discussing the rejection of technology for evil. Especially for you I say Internet evil and you are very mischievous using it. What else is there ... Ahh support for the liberal bloc ... Let’s put the Communists in prison ... All my life I voted for the Communist Party and recently realized that I was pouring my voice into the toilet. Uncle Sue believes that we are on the verge of default. This is populism and incompetence. We have any problems in the economy but not default.

I agree with you and there’s nothing to add .. Again, the howl begins, Ekary Babai ...!

[kalibr]

Sovsem foreman molodets, looking at the root!

[msm]

Oh, damn it! Again, the Communists are to blame! Do you think that all are fools?

[atamankko]

The authorities cannot live by the principle: "tell me that
I have to do it, and I will explain why I cannot. "
The authorities are responsible for all processes in the country and
only because of its flaws appear
multi-million dollar and even billionth thieves.

[rotmistr60]

Now they say that the damned West is to blame for everything, they believe them, but this faith is beginning to weaken

A year or two ago I was listening and reading Delyagin with interest. Now I am inclined to think that he, as he sat on his "skate" a few years ago, does not get off him, although he has already rolled it up to the point. Only demagoguery remained. Glazyev at least proposes concrete actions, but here only criticism.

[1536]

Zhirinovsky responded well to a well-known figure skater at the State Duma meeting: "You are preparing a Maidan in Russia, shut up!" He is not far from the truth. But that's not why they worry. But because they feel that United Russia will follow PARNAS as a locomotive, or vice versa, it doesn't matter, but people will throw two seemingly opposite directions in Russian politics overboard at the same time, because these are two sides of the same coin, or coins. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation itself will dissolve as usual. Because the bullying of people, which is carried out jointly by those in power and their imaginary opponents from the imaginary "opposition", has already reached a critical mass. We are not even told about the election results. There is nothing to advertise. Because the turnout of 12-15% (and this is "official statistics") at the polling stations is a shame for any elections, whether regional, municipal, or all-Russian. After all, only drunken swollen ro .., sorry, the faces of the deputies, which appeared two weeks before the elections on posters in cities, what are they worth. Do they seriously think that I will vote for a fat, vodka-filled kubar with a Zapadensky surname? And these are the majority among the deputies! At least in the suburbs.
Therefore, the US ambassador rushes about the country, advises how to drive off fat, how to push decent people into power at least. After all, if the United States loses support in the face of the ruling clans in Russia, the September 11 crisis will seem like a Disney cartoon. Soon, most likely, a campaign of "love for the United States and the West" will begin on TV (they were wrong, they say, sorry), "Why do we need Crimea with its problems?" etc., and there will remain one August before "Perestroika 2.0". I may be exaggerating, but, in my opinion, this is so. Ball would be glad to be deceived.

[AdekvatNICK]

that you strongly exaggerate.
Well, the turnout is weak because there is no struggle. The opponents themselves do not give anything to be recognized. There are no programs with their speeches (with rare exceptions) They do not work with the electorate. Moreover, now the meaning of the choice is generally lost. Because it’s now appointing from the Kremlin Vladimir Putin is the most suitable. In essence, it all comes down to the fact that, for example, in our region one governor has worked for many years, and here the elections are about candidates, well, there’s nothing at all either information or their programs. That is, they (opponents) initially know that rather they don’t have a chance at all. They aim to light up in the election campaign.
According to United Russia ... no one will throw it overboard, this is the president's party. So as long as there is Putin, there will be a party, although without him it is not bad for everyone else to "bend" the electorate.

[VEKT]

In 2011, such a bend from EdRa led to Bolotnaya. Let's see what they will draw for themselves next September. Zhirinovsky even meant that EdRo was free of impunity, in the regions they draw themselves 90%.

[AdekvatNICK]

why when the watchman Uncle Vanya quits he is not paid a "golden parachute"

[roskot]

“Everyone understands that the economic crisis will develop and develop into a political one. A numb power awaits when it is covered.

How many prophets do we have in the Fatherland? And all the economists ... One can see the authorities want it.

[33 Watcher]

I don’t even know that it’s more disgusting to read an article or a series of comments ..? We have been declared a war, and commentators are whining that there is not enough money. Guys, and yet this is not deprivation, not difficulty ...

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: Observer 33

We are declared war

And who are you fighting with?

[VEKT]

Exactly, while Rogozin, apparently in the heat of battle, mixed up helicopters and how he began to run around the French car. Apparently forgot that France announced sanctions to us

[roskot]

Do not make yourself an idol, otherwise you will lose yourself.

[SCHWERIN]

It was good under autocracy - the king is from God. And the people did not bathe, but went about their business. In the 17th, cunning people who were far from state concerns empty mind drove the idea that a cook can rule the state and the king and queen are German spies and what?
The war is lost (despite the dedication and heroism of the army), anarchy, revolution, with a civil war and the masses of the dead.
In the 80s and 90s, again under the influence of the "intelligentsia" and the magazine "Fitilek", new ideas were put into empty heads. Everything is bad from the past, rivers of blood of the innocent murdered flow, and in general, it's time to go to Europe. The journalist Kurkova and her comrades are taking 400 thousand people to Moscow (Russian Maidan?). The power was timid (there is no king) and dissolved, leaving the people. And again, war, devastation, destruction.
The result - there is no army, the yok industry (beyond the Urals, dashing little people cut down new workshops with machine tools and sold them to China for scrap metal), admirals sold an aircraft carrier to scrub. In general, the end.
Finally a man appeared. As appeared - all this is from the field of the unknowable (maybe from God). Measured the Caucasus, restored the army, began to establish production. And again, everything is wrong! It’s not like a can, Syria does not need to be helped, etc. etc.
Ladies and gentlemen! As I understand it, the vast majority of you are retired. You have summer cottages. So do them. Grow flowers, communicate on blogs with lovers of country life and the cultivation of flowers, fruits and vegetables. Others, if you are engineers and scientists, condemn with colleagues how to create a Russian TV, computer, or 100% Russian car. Fortunately, everyone now has such an opportunity.
In general, discuss what you have been taught and what you are working on or working on. Otherwise, you’ll chat again and get it in the 17th or 90s. By the way, then verbal diarrhea was more than enough with the filing of the best German of the year. And all fell for him.

[rosarioagro]

Quote: SCHWERIN

And then again, you’ll talk everything and it will turn out like in the 17th

And what really happened?

[Cat man null]

Quote: rosarioagro

Quote: SCHWERIN

And then again, you’ll talk everything and it will turn out like in the 17th

And what really happened?

Yes you! Everything turned out perfectly! But :

Quote: almost Klitschko

Could survive .. not only everything. Few could do it

And so - yes, everything is just wonderful ..

PS: And where to put a hundred minuses? Want very much

[SCHWERIN]

Quote: rosarioagro

Quote: SCHWERIN

And then again, you’ll talk everything and it will turn out like in the 17th

And what really happened?

Yeah, very good. 70 years survived, and then one (ONE !!!) their main one ruined everything. What was the foundation?

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: SCHWERIN

In the 17th, cunning little people drove into empty heads far from state concerns the idea that a cook can manage the state

Can't she?

[SCHWERIN]

[quote = Uncle Joe] [quote = SCHWERIN] In the 17th, cunning people who were far from state concerns empty mind killed the idea that a cook can manage the state [/ quote] Can't she? [/ Quote
Cook? Of course it can't!

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: SCHWERIN

Cook? Of course it can't!

Come on?! Can not be...

Quote: SCHWERIN

In the 17th, cunning little people drove into empty heads far from state concerns the idea that a cook can manage the state

We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not capable of immediately taking control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to run the state, to carry out the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from wealthy families officials can take. We demand that training in public administration be given by conscious workers and soldiers, and that it be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, immediately begin to be involved in this training.
V. Lenin T.34 p .315

[plow]

Quote: asiat_61

The easiest way to blame someone, while not trying to do anything. Read Glazyev with his program.

Actually, Delyagin and Glazyev on the same team

[duchy]

Damn, what kind of economists went where you don’t throw it - everywhere it’s bad, isn’t that way ?? JV Stalin before the war, during and after the war, moved the country forward and no one shouted, "That’s it, we’re going to bend," but they worked with full dedication.

[Uncle Joe]

Quote: duche

JV Stalin, before the war, during and after the war, moved the country forward and no one shouted, "That’s it, we’ll bend, but we worked with full dedication.

But did Stalin move the country to the same place where they are moving it now, or is it still 180 degrees to the left?

[Victor-M]

"The belief that the damned West is to blame begins to weaken."

IPhone lovers?

[Vladimir 1964]

An interesting article, such a "cut" in the controversy has not been on the site for a long time. And some of the opinions of colleagues are in many ways even more interesting than Delyagin, and the discussion itself is interesting.

But I do not want to comment on this. The phrase appeared in the article

the damned West is to blame

I specifically pull it out of context to ask a few questions
1. Who is to blame for the fact that ALL the reforms carried out by the government did not lead to the expected result, to put it mildly, although crazy financial resources were spent on them (I mean: reforms of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, housing and communal services, pension and Armed Forces), and the "brilliant" reform of the Armed forces also demanded huge funds to neutralize its consequences?
2. Who is to blame that without firm and consistent decisions in social, financial, economic, legal and industrial policies, our government rushes from side to side? As an example, the situation with the Azov City play area is very typical. A decision was made to build, the state-business is being spent consolidated within 1 billion on infrastructure and construction, then a decision is made to transfer the "zone" of chi to Sochi, chi to Crimea. They sailed. The money is buried in the ground, like those that went to reforms.

Who is to blame for this - the West?
For some reason, I have the opinion that just the West has nothing to do with it.

That's the way, Dear colleagues.

[GRAY]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

For some reason, I have the opinion that just the West has nothing to do with it.

Western school of economics multiplied наличные on personal interests. That's all.
We have no practitioners, only theorists — even Glazyev is just a theorist.
Mistakes are inevitable and they will certainly be, but you still need to give birth to your own independent economic system. Otherwise Khan.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: GRAY

Western School of Economics multiplied by cash for personal interests. That's all.
We have no practitioners, only theorists — even Glazyev is just a theorist.
Mistakes are inevitable and they will certainly be, but you still need to give birth to your own independent economic system. Otherwise Khan.

Sergey, I agree with you.
But there is also such a concept as "level of education" and, accordingly, development. If a good basic knowledge, albeit a basic school mentally alien to us, is half the trouble. We have the same entirely one "mediocrity from the gallery" who studied exclusively "divide" and "take away".
I apologize for the sarcasm, Sergey, of course this is a joke, but you know that there is a joke in every joke.

Like, a little evil.

[Stas 86]

As part of this trend, the wonders of technology are coming.

What is he talking about?

[IAlex]

Well, like hints at the cries of modernization, import substitution, harvest, and other super technologies and developments ...

[Stas 86]

miracles go

This is a new trend among economists.

[ramzes1776]

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Yes and good !!! And we don’t need tractors and Fukushima with Chernobyls.
Read My Life. My Achievements by Henry Ford. You may begin to understand.

You need to steal it. There they are just working hard on it, turning the country into a large village.

[IAlex]

"Now they say that the damned West is to blame for everything, they believe, but this faith is beginning to weaken," the economist concluded. - just that belief in his guilt will never weaken, as he began to manage here from the age of 17, and continues, and this ghoul is one of those who were brought along with the Borey-drunk and his gop company zapadentsy, which is still in session on Olympus and paid from the west ...

[Tolstoevsky]

Onoliteg. I look at him and see the Gaidar. the same glossy foul mug and thieving pork eyes

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The downside is not mine. The bottom line is that smart people are for some reason not in demand.

And give an example of "smart people", Bulk, Sobchak, Chubais, Khakamada and other pi ....... tia ?!

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And everything that is happening now in economics and finance, the consequence of the fact that the Gaidar people have tricked (read the West together with America), is easy to pump up, but to clean up few who want it and know how.

[gammipapa]

For many years I watched the clever conversations of Delyagin, Khazin and many others .... EVERYTHING I no longer observe, spent in empty time, talkers and clowns. And most importantly, the benefits to the state or people from them are simply zero, not even zero, but rather a minus.

You would have to go to the factory of such figures to the lathe or in the field on a tractor, forcibly, you would look and thoughts would brighten up and bring benefits. How many parasites have divorced, no one wants to work - from where we will live, we will be better.

[Michael - 235]

If Delyagin is a domestic economist, then in the country they expect concrete economic decisions and real proposals, and not fortune-telling on the coffee grounds and statements like "will or will not be."

[Siberian]

Stupid individual ("Xperd" was found). The belief that the West is to blame for everything has a steady tendency only to grow. I won't even say that it's sad. Fine. It's time to get used to it and get rid of the constant peace of mind, called confidence in the future.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Sounds like idle chatter.
We need real things, not even grandiose projects, at least microscopic activities aimed at the good of the country and people ...

[Support]

And for me, the West has nothing to do with it. Our corruption permeates all levels of government. Even the elections of our governor (Kamchatka) came with explicit and undisguised use, as they say, of an administrative resource. Isn't that corruption? When through the construction of useless high-rise buildings (because apartments are very expensive, and those who need it have already bought a long time) and shopping centers money laundering is taking place - is this not corruption? When monopolists (supply of resources in the housing and communal services sector - domestic hot water, central heating, cold water, electric / energy) constantly only raise and raise tariffs, while at the same time changing various norms and standards in their favor, is this not corruption? And when the Central Government does practically nothing - is it not corruption? After all, people say when they plant someone from the governors or from the like - he simply did not share with the right people. This is the finish .....

[Anchonsha]

Delyagin is right in some ways .... You can’t keep people alone with expectations for a normal life, many are already interrupted from kvass to water. And Medvedev needs to not liberalize, but really pull the economy out of shit. Dvorkovichs who do not quite understand the management of the state need to be driven away. And corruption has not only settled down in our country, it is in full view of the United States, but at least it has not discouraged the security forces from fighting it. And as soon as I got out of the elite, then on the occasion of the liberals they determine a house arrest, as it was with Vasilyeva.

[Altona]

He was an observer in the elections from the Communist Party ... The results on my site are such, the number of voters on the list - 1330, for the candidate from United Russia Mikhail Ignatiev (interim head of Chuvashia) -273 votes, for Oleg Nikolaev ("Fair Russia") -155, for Valentin Shurchanov ("KPRF") -137, invalid ballots-23, the remaining votes for the candidate of the Liberal Democratic Party, the turnout at the station amounted to 612 man ... So look at the real trust in the current government and its rating ... In the neighboring sector a similar picture ... The protest potential exceeds the trust rating ...

[Yasondinalt]

He worked with Semyonitch, and so he said: "Up to 26 years old, this is how he studies, then he grew a beard, put on glasses and teaches me how to live." How many such "teachers" are in Russia, sleek, beautifully speaking. How many there were, and how many, unfortunately, there will be more. Who teach us how to live, but who have not done anything yet!