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In Poland, dismantled a monument to General Chernyakhovsky

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In Poland, however, the monument to General I. D Chernyakhovsky was dismantled, installed at the place of his death in the small town of Penenzhno (formerly Melzak, which was part of East Prussia). The head of Penenzhno announced that fragments of the obelisk will be sent to the warehouse, and that this decision was made on the basis of taking into account the opinion of the Poles. On the basis of taking into account the opinion not of those Poles who now live in Penenzhno, not without the participation of Chernyakhovsky who turned from Prussian Polish city?.. History "Poles" have these Poles forgotten?




The fact of the dismantling of the sculpture outraged the Russian embassy in Poland. RIA News cites the statement of the representative of the diplomatic mission of the Russian Federation in Poland:

These actions of the Polish side arouse our strongest protest and deep indignation. Although formally the decision to demolish the monument was made by local authorities, we see a direct connection between this blasphemous action and the atmosphere created in Polish society with the active participation of officials and leading Polish media about the liberation of Poland by the Soviet Union from Hitler’s occupation in 1944-1945 years . The denial of the liberation mission of the Red Army, the indisputable fact that it was thanks to it that the very existence of the Polish national state and the survival of the Polish nation was ensured, not only contradicted the truth of history, but also deeply immoral, offensive to the sacred memory of more than 600 thousands of Soviet soldiers and officers who died during the liberation of Poland.


In connection with the dismantling of the monument, erected in honor of the Soviet military leader, the Polish Ambassador to the Russian Federation Katarzyna Pelczyńska-Nalench was summoned to the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation.

That the Russian embassy in Warsaw is outraged at the dismantling of the monument to Chernyakhovsky is understandable. But where were the Russian diplomats before, because in Poland they have been talking about the dismantling of this monument all the time lately? Why no measures that would have allowed to save the monument, in fact, was not taken? By the way, in Penenzhno there were proposals from the authorities of the Kursk region about the possibility of transferring the monument to a Soviet general.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 17 September 2015 16: 37 New
    +104
    Tired of pshek to the land ... !!! Totally shores beguiled!
    Near Smolensk, we have a huge memorial to the most fierce Russophobe Lech Kaczynski, Poland’s prezik, who hiked along with the plane through the fault of the drunken head of the Polish Air Force ...
    Maybe it is worth raising the issue of liquidating this memorial? What bolt should IT be on our land with when the Poles destroy monuments on their territory to those who saved them from genocide ???
    Terpelka is already pumping ... !!!
    1. herruvim
      herruvim 17 September 2015 16: 41 New
      +36
      Polish political blowers forgot who freed them
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 17 September 2015 16: 45 New
        +27
        Quote: herruvim
        Polish geopolitical blowers forgot who freed them

        There will be no release next time, as well as such an abominable concept - "Poland".
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 17 September 2015 16: 52 New
          +20
          It is sad that they desecrate the memory of such a hero-general who himself escaped destruction! ungrateful pigs, nonhumans! Still, it would be necessary to extrude these pus!
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 17 September 2015 17: 16 New
            0
            The general himself does not need this monument. The Poles themselves needed the monument, so they erected it. Now he began to bother them. They dismantled it. What does the Russian embassy have to do with some protest notes? Each state, each people has the right to decide for themselves which monuments they need and which not. Like these de..lam lay in a dirty puddle and grunt to the beat of their new idols, and the dog with them.
            1. ava09
              ava09 17 September 2015 18: 08 New
              +13
              The main thing is that we do not forget who they are - Psheks.
              1. ssn18
                ssn18 17 September 2015 20: 29 New
                +2
                I think we will not forget! In the Kaliningrad region there is the city of Chernyakhovsk. Good memory to the general.
              2. Koshak
                Koshak 17 September 2015 21: 43 New
                +1
                Quote: ava09
                The main thing is that we do not forget who they are - Psheks.

                And how can one forget if the entire centuries-old history of the gentry is connected with raids on Russia.
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 17 September 2015 22: 17 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Koshak
                  And how can one forget if the entire centuries-old history of the gentry is connected with raids on Russia.

                  .. as a result of FIVE SECTIONS OF POLAND! .. they were very lucky at 45m .. well, they could have remained within the borders of the Duchy of Warsaw .. or within the borders of 1795, when Poland was liquidated as a state .. and the Monarchs of Austria-Hungary, Prussia and Russia agreed not to mention even titles .. and what to mention that "common thing" ?! .. direct translation of the Commonwealth .. laughing .. well, it’s not for nothing that Leonid Utesov sang about Warsaw Street .. Grandfathers could, and, We are worse than that .. wink
            2. Passer
              Passer 17 September 2015 18: 29 New
              +16
              Quote: Mahmut
              What does the Russian embassy have to do with some protest notes? Each state, each people has the right to decide for themselves which monuments they need and which not.

              Well, to bring all the monuments to the Poles near Katyn and Smolensk, to such a mother. This is my opinion, as a representative of the people (and I think the majority will support me). And if the Polish Foreign Ministry is outraged, put in that place a monument to the right Pole - Dzerzhinsky.
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 17 September 2015 21: 01 New
                +1
                Only a monument to Kaczynski!
          2. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 18: 32 New
            +10
            Quote: Baikonur
            It is sad that they desecrate the memory of such a hero-general who himself escaped destruction! ungrateful pigs, nonhumans! Still, it would be necessary to extrude these pus!

            By the way, the monument was erected with donations from ordinary Poles. By this they and their fathers, who raised money for the monument, betray.
            1. the polar
              the polar 17 September 2015 19: 54 New
              +9
              Quote: herruvim
              Polish political blowers forgot who freed them
              ----------------------
              But they well remember how the Russian State Duma, wriggling and bending, moaned, "forgive us the Poles for Katyn. And then Garant and the prime minister quickly fled to Poland and serfs in front of the steep panes, repented" imemenrossiyans "for" Stalin's crimes in Katyn ". General Chernyakhovsky and hundreds of thousands of Russian soldiers who died in Poland are turned over in a coffin ...
              He who fawns and bows will always be humiliated and despised.
          3. ejov1976
            ejov1976 17 September 2015 19: 41 New
            +8
            On February 18, 1945, Army General I.D. Chernyakhovsky was seriously wounded by fragments of an artillery shell on the outskirts of the city of Melzak in East Prussia (now Penenzno, Poland) and died on the same day.

            Well, give Penengo to Germany.
            And then how to bring down the monuments so we are the first, and how to correct historical justice, so somehow we somehow forget.
        2. star44
          star44 17 September 2015 16: 53 New
          +1
          And Poland is where ???
          1. BMP-2
            BMP-2 17 September 2015 17: 08 New
            +8
            Poland is not where the Poles are. Poland is where the Anglo-Saxons are ...
          2. Passer
            Passer 17 September 2015 18: 31 New
            +5
            Quote: Star44
            And Poland is where ???

            Where, where ... Exactly there.
          3. unsinkable
            unsinkable 17 September 2015 19: 58 New
            +1
            Poland is from where, where. (Also a joke)
          4. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 20: 07 New
            0
            Come on, you have a little fun. the topic is not the same.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 22: 51 New
              -2
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Come on, you have a little fun. the topic is not the same.
              Just to make it worse, this is the topic. Why are the Poles and all the other former members of the Warsaw Pact represented as crazy jackals, American mongrel, puppets of an overseas puppeteer, etc., etc. Yes, it’s just that the policy of the Russian Federation is completely failed in these countries, all of these years, the loot has been turbidizing from our country. And not even a penny has been spent on supporting Serbian pro-Russians or creating a Bulgarian pro-Russian party (there is a huge demand for this business, BUT with a good price for oil, it was more important for Putin and his cabinet to voice their significance in the world and among the people, for example, with such events as the Olympics in Sochi: While Serdyuk was messing up the army, people still threw tax cents such as Rotenberg (German, probably))) .50 lard was thrown, SHOW of the opening was incomparable, WE took the gold, but then the oil price dropped and hacking now depends on the price of this product. That's the whole achievement. That's the thing ... China is the largest manufacturer, a workshop with no competitors (except for the dragon o) in the production of things and objects of a second technological order. And we can make such products (if the West gives technology), but we lose to Yu.-V. Asia in manufacturability and the total cost of the product. Therefore, we buy everything from consumer goods, to mechanical structures, all in China, etc. .. And in Europe and America we hunted for products of the first technological mode (in our information age these are smart processing complexes and applied informatics itself). Ulukaai drew a bright future that we will have only 2% of GDP per year. But it’s cool, and I don’t rejoice how many people think. The power (for our money) drew the so-called all these capitalist hydras (like the son of Yakuninsky who took root in London (hello to comrade Kaganovich !!!) or Londoner Lavrov or Kobzon’s flint which was the initiator of canceling the sending of hopelessness (Yakovlev’s law) to the damned western hospitals), and he touched on the most precious , so everyone knows how this patriotism screwed up ...)))) And so that's it. And the money calls back to foreign banks. NO WE IDEA. NO! If there is, Nuka will sound, only without slogans.
              1. dali
                dali 17 September 2015 23: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: Thunderbolt
                Why are the Poles and all the other former members of the Warsaw Pact represented as crazy jackals, American mongrel, puppets of an overseas puppeteer, etc., etc. Yes, it’s just that the policy of the Russian Federation has completely failed in these countries, all these years the loot has been turbulent from our country.


                But who would argue that there was no policy ... only the jackal-like, the naughty and the puppet of these former "friends" does not cancel ... it is clear that there are all kinds of people there, but as you remember, every nation deserves its own government. ..

                Is their government made up of Americans - no, of the same Poles, Bulgarians, etc.
                This is just dill dropped below the baseboard ...
                1. the polar
                  the polar 18 September 2015 08: 10 New
                  0
                  Yes, the policy of the Polish authorities against historical memory is disgusting. They call it "decommunization and desovetization." But we will be objective and fair, and isn’t that what the Russian authorities are doing in this? defecating with anger and hatred in memory of the Soviet past, uprooting everywhere and in everything the red banner and five-pointed star, as symbols of Victory, swearing everywhere and in everything the role of Stalin, as the leader of the USSR, under whose leadership fascist Europe was defeated. A lot of the monuments of the Soviet period have been demolished, and the entire "Soviet period" of history is presented as one continuous gulag, slave labor and people, as a dumb, brainless herd. That is why, looking at those in power, Russian anti-Soviet and anti-Stalinists, East European lackeys allow themselves such brazen antics
        3. BilliBoms09
          BilliBoms09 17 September 2015 17: 38 New
          +4
          On the basis of the opinion of those Poles who now live in Penenzhno, not without the participation of Chernyakhovsky who turned from Prussian into a Polish city? .. Did these Poles forget the history of their "city"?
          The Psheks demolish the monuments to the people who saved them as a nation, then they would continue to the end of their policies and erect the monuments to the Ukrainian Nazis, Governor General Hans Franky and others who would like there to be no people like the Poles.
        4. raliv
          raliv 17 September 2015 19: 43 New
          -1
          I’m afraid that next time Russia will save it
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      3. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 16: 57 New
        +13
        They were liberated by the Russian Ivanes and Yaneks from the Polish Army, they fought with dignity! "4 tankmen and Sharik" are poetry obtained from life. When the shoulders of the Soviet Army and the Polish Army stood at the junctions (and in trains, when the Germans tore the defense with local counterattacks ) then our Soviet-Slavic blood flowed to Paradise into one burgundy brook ... They humiliate them, after all, these veterans and their descendants. A new policy, danger from the east ... we must educate our children in this way (let us forget that so many Russians were killed, sweeping away in Poland, the ghetto, concentration camps, giving the Wehrmacht and the probe (poland) to the teams in particular. Comrades, get used to it ... We know how to force the Wisla, and we are the main specialists in maintaining and expanding the bridgeheads.
        1. Privat
          Privat 17 September 2015 18: 14 New
          +13
          Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova commented very worthily on this Polish abomination. Demanding to stop the bacchanalia for the demolition of monuments, she added: "Historical memory is what distinguishes a person from animal".
          Chew, mongers are corrupt!
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 18: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: Private
            "Historical memory is what distinguishes a person from animal".
            Chew, mongers are corrupt!

            It's a shame, but they SQUEEZE, and they won’t even choke. About times, about LIVING !!!!!!
      4. meriem1
        meriem1 17 September 2015 17: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: herruvim
        Polish political blowers forgot who freed them


        Yes, someone is already fucked. We have already forgotten how Bandera slaughtered villages. How young girls were raped. The suit will never forgive us ... as they were squeezed out of Moscow in troubled times. They yell that WE invited them. And they didn’t want to leave. So let them suck in the hope of a place in the sun. And we do not get used to it. Shit is watered, and We are getting stronger.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 September 2015 17: 06 New
          -3
          Quote: meriem1
          ..how they were squeezed out of Moscow in troubled times.

          let's just not talk about it, there is more fiction than truth
          1. meriem1
            meriem1 17 September 2015 19: 23 New
            +6
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: meriem1
            ..how they were squeezed out of Moscow in troubled times.

            let's just not talk about it, there is more fiction than truth



            Well, the truth in the studio !!! Or Lyakhov was not !!! Or is Susanin not a hero? And what was it ??? Go sweetest in the ass with your attitude. Such as YOU congratulated the emperor of Japan after Tsushima !!! But the OUR Proud Varangian does not surrender to the Enemy .. Not YOURS ... Fu p.d.alyu rang.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2015 08: 02 New
              -2
              Quote: meriem1
              Well, the truth in the studio !!! Or Lyakhov was not !!!

              there were truths about the invaders more than a notion, by the way, the last "false Dmitry" participated in the elections along with Romanov as a candidate for the post, you see, it’s very strange for the expelled invaders
              Quote: meriem1
              Or is Susanin not a hero?

              By the way, the personality of Susanin is more fiction and is not supported by facts
              Quote: meriem1
              Go sweetest in the ass with your attitude.

              listen boor for language follow if you study the history of cheap films, and a la 1612 is yours
              problems
              Quote: meriem1
              Such as YOU congratulated the emperor of Japan after Tsushima !!!

              completely knocked
              Quote: meriem1
              Not YOURS ... Fu p.d.alyu rang.

              fool
          2. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 20: 17 New
            +5
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: meriem1
            ..how they were squeezed out of Moscow in troubled times.

            let's just not talk about it, there is more fiction than truth

            Sir? And what is fiction? And where is the evidence, argumentation, facts? There was no trouble in Russia, or maybe Minin and Pozharsky are fairy-tale heroes, along with Susanin? Facts please!
            1. Kos_kalinki9
              Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 20: 34 New
              +4
              And this is a photo of the monument to my fellow countryman, governor of a small Volga town, which died during the defense of my city from Polish invaders. Maybe this is also fiction?
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2015 09: 24 New
                -2
                I don’t want to say anything about your fellow countryman, but I have a little book where the events of the October Revolution are written down by the minute until the "escape" of Kerensky and the winter assault, is a similar question true or fiction?
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2015 09: 22 New
              -1
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Ali trouble in Russia was not

              undoubtedly there was just a Polish "intervention" more fiction
              firstly the Poles themselves in the army were only about 30 percent, the rest were Belarusians, Livonians and Germans,
              secondly, talking about the intervention is generally stupid, to Moscow these "interventionists" are almost ringing the bell,
              thirdly, at that time there was no such antagonism between our peoples, the transition of the service class from one citizenship to another was the norm and even more so was not considered treason, moreover, Ivan the Terrible “ran for” the “post” of the Polish king at one time and if not for his stubbornness and ability to diplomatically resolve some issues, perhaps now there would be a single Slavic state,
              in the fourth, the army of Minin and Pozharsky expelled from Moscow not only the interventionists but also the Russian boyars, together with the future tsar Mikhail Romanov, his mother and uncle
              in fact, it was an ordinary swara for power, which after the winners was interpreted in the right direction

              about susanin
              Here is what the private deed of Mikhail Fedorovich writes in 1619 (7128):
              “As we, the Great Sovereign Tsar and Grand Duke Mikhailo Fedorovich of All Russia were in Kostroma in the past in 121, and at that time Polish and Lithuanian people came to the Kostroma district, and Ivan Susanin's Bogdashkov’s father-in-law was seized and tortured by him at that time. great cruel tortures. And they tortured him, where at that time we were the Great Sovereign Tsar and Grand Duke Mikhailo Fedorovich of All Russia, and he Ivan knew about us the Great Sovereign, where we were at that time, enduring undue torture from those Polish and Lithuanian people, about us "I didn’t say that I knew the Great Sovereign to the Polish and Lithuanian people where we were at that time, and the Polish and Lithuanian people tortured him to death."
              Do not tell me where it is written here about a swamp and the like?
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 18 September 2015 18: 20 New
                0
                cannot refute, and minus slap it yes it’s normal
      5. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 17 September 2015 17: 32 New
        +6
        Everything has been clear with the Poles for a long time. This disease is Russophobia, incurable. And we need to build relations with Poland, taking into account this "disease".
      6. siberalt
        siberalt 17 September 2015 17: 33 New
        +8
        The inhabitants of Penengno are unworthy of the monument to the liberator general. It may be better to dismantle it than to mock his memory. Well, at least to the warehouse, and not smashed to smithereens, as they do in the Outskirts.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 18 September 2015 08: 41 New
          0
          Quote: siberalt
          The inhabitants of Penengno are unworthy of the monument to the liberator general. It may be better to dismantle it than to mock his memory. Well, at least to the warehouse, and not smashed to smithereens, as they do in the Outskirts.

          ... and what’s scribbled on the monument? red "felt-tip pen"? "The executioner of the Home Army" ... Here is the answer, and the reason - who dismantled it and why! The “Army of Ludova” does not even smell there; but it stinks of those who spent most of the war in London ... and in Paris, "under the German occupiers" ...
      7. little girl15
        little girl15 17 September 2015 17: 47 New
        +6
        These bastards haven’t forgotten anything! They just want to annoy those who saved all of Europe from fascism. Those who didn’t let these ungrateful creatures be destroyed. Only Russian psheks owe that they were not allowed to make them fuel for Auschwitz and Maidanek stoves!
      8. boozer
        boozer 17 September 2015 18: 40 New
        +5
        There is a good film - Ordinary Fascism. Prophetic for its time ... Once again revised, and I recommend it to you.
      9. APASUS
        APASUS 17 September 2015 18: 51 New
        +2
        Quote: herruvim
        Polish political blowers forgot who freed them

        Nothing, it will soon pass by them, the line of people who want to fuck the Poles is already standing .............. in two, three years they will speak with envy about the Russians
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 17 September 2015 20: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: herruvim
          Polish political blowers forgot who freed them

          Nothing, it will soon pass by them, the line of people who want to fuck the Poles is already standing .............. in two, three years they will speak with envy about the Russians

          Gold words. It's like a mom. if good, then okay. And if it’s bad, then to her. Well, they’re probably fine for now, but tomorrow, we’ll see.
      10. ejov1976
        ejov1976 17 September 2015 19: 39 New
        +5
        People who have forgotten their past ... have no right to the future!
        1. Michael - 235
          Michael - 235 17 September 2015 21: 08 New
          +2
          Really, what kind of people they are and such decisions
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      12. Arhj
        Arhj 17 September 2015 20: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: herruvim
        Polish political blowers forgot who freed them

        Someday they will remember, but by that time a mosque will grow on the site of the demolished monument.
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 17 September 2015 16: 46 New
      +30
      By the way, it was not worth laying down thousands of Soviet wars to save their cities (Krakow, Warsaw, etc.). It was necessary to act like the Anglo-Saxons, bombed Munich with civilians under the plain, and the Japanese cities ironed the atom, so now the Germans serve them faithfully and Japan's mother as a faithful Cerberus.
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 17 September 2015 16: 56 New
        0
        Quote: juborg
        By the way, it was not worth laying down thousands of Soviet wars to save their cities (Krakow, Warsaw, etc.). It was necessary to act like the Anglo-Saxons, bombed Munich with civilians under the plain, and the Japanese cities ironed the atom, so now the Germans serve them faithfully and Japan's mother as a faithful Cerberus.

        Yeah !!! It was necessary to surround Warsaw and other large Polish cities, wait until the German garrisons in them eat all the Poles from hunger, and then take the Germans captive! SO WHAT ?! Are you, my friend, out of your mind?
        Munich, by the way, was not erased by the bombing, unlike Leipzig and Dresden, which were supposed to enter the Soviet zone of occupation.
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      3. sever.56
        sever.56 17 September 2015 16: 56 New
        +5
        Quote: juborg
        It was necessary to act like the Anglo-Saxons, bombed Munich with civilians under the plain, and the Japanese cities ironed the atom, so now the Germans serve them faithfully and Japan's mother as a faithful Cerberus.


        We, unlike them, are people who have a soul, heart, strength, the concept of compassion and our faith, which does not allow us to commit such atrocities that the Nazis did, those who fought with them from the West. That is precisely why. that the truth is behind us - we are strong!
      4. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 17: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: juborg
        By the way, it was not worth laying down thousands of Soviet wars to save their cities (Krakow, Warsaw, etc.). It was necessary to act like the Anglo-Saxons, bombed Munich with civilians under the plain, and the Japanese cities ironed the atom, so now the Germans serve them faithfully and Japan's mother as a faithful Cerberus.
        This is probably why we are called Russians (tokhda Soviet). We all crawled to Hitler’s lair and crawled on our belly. We will be higher than the gaskets of the Poles, who endured monuments from joining NATO, and then it was impatient. arrogance.
      5. Igor_kh
        Igor_kh 17 September 2015 17: 17 New
        +2
        By the way, it was not worth laying down thousands of Soviet wars to save their cities (Krakow, Warsaw, etc.)


        recently I watched a program on a satellite, an Englishman rides around the world and pokes his nose everywhere, about Krakow it was said about "there is a legend that a German officer who was supposed to blow up the city did not press a button ... and thereby saved the city." And Chernyakhovsky is an occupier for them. Yes, the era of moral freaks.
      6. meriem1
        meriem1 17 September 2015 19: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: juborg
        By the way, it was not worth laying down thousands of Soviet wars to save their cities (Krakow, Warsaw, etc.). It was necessary to act like the Anglo-Saxons, bombed Munich with civilians under the plain, and the Japanese cities ironed the atom, so now the Germans serve them faithfully and Japan's mother as a faithful Cerberus.


        HOLY TRUTH! Waiting for a replay. Only no one will come to the rescue. Personally, I will wait until the entire P. adal is cut out. and then we'll see. Have you made enemies of the Russians? They themselves do not know what it will turn out !!!
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 17 September 2015 16: 57 New
      +12
      [quote = sever.56] Tired of pshek to the edge ... !!! Totally shores beguiled!
      Near Smolensk, we have a huge memorial to the most fierce Russophobe Lech Kaczynski, Poland’s prezik, who hiked along with the plane through the fault of the drunken head of the Polish Air Force ...

      Pralna, put a duck poultry farm at this place, call it "Lehovskaya" and rivet duck legs! (Psheksky-duck). That will be a memorial to this Russophobe! am
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 17 September 2015 17: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Pralna, put a duck poultry farm at this place, call it "Lehovskaya" and rivet duck legs!

        And first, flood the entire area.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 17: 55 New
          +1
          Alas, this is not our method. We are accustomed to rising and securing the supremacy over the Fritz with bayonets, bayonet-knives and point-blank shots with a personal gun, after a strong artillery preparation. And then we take the village. And even if the battalions ask for fire, they don’t ask for it, but they endure it with their own and attached forces. And then the machine gunners on the tanks went into a deep breakthrough to the Oder. And when they ran into the German river, they fought for the fire ford in the Soviet way, because. there were no other options!
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 17: 55 New
          0
          Alas, this is not our method. We are accustomed to rising and securing the supremacy over the Fritz with bayonets, bayonet-knives and point-blank shots with a personal gun, after a strong artillery preparation. And then we take the village. And even if the battalions ask for fire, they don’t ask for it, but they endure it with their own and attached forces. And then the machine gunners on the tanks went into a deep breakthrough to the Oder. And when they ran into the German river, they fought for the fire ford in the Soviet way, because. there were no other options!
        3. family tree
          family tree 17 September 2015 18: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Major Yurik
          call her "Lehovskaya

          Quote: Vladimirets
          And first, flood the entire area.

          No, well, nafig, ducks are good, but to flood, it must be looked at first. Just plant a birch, and stick a plate next to it, in Polish and Russian, “Monument to the hero tree, which took the blow of a Polish president’s plane, who decided, drunk, steer a pilot” Directly at the entrance and plant.
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 17 September 2015 17: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: sever.56
      Maybe it is worth raising the issue of liquidating this memorial?

      Maybe you just need to eliminate, and not raise a question?
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 17 September 2015 17: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets

        Maybe you just need to eliminate, and not raise a question?


        We, unlike them, do not jackal, do not gear and do not prostitute, but act, as far as possible, within the framework of our moral values, faith and laws. But, if they get it, then it is possible and in truth of life. Only then do not be offended!
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 17 September 2015 17: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: sever.56
          within our moral values, faith and laws

          as part of the value, putting a sign on the mass grave will be limited to this, or even transfer the remains to the Polish side; they themselves bury them, but about the idiots who destroyed the birch,
      2. builder
        builder 17 September 2015 18: 17 New
        +2
        Maybe you should not be compared to the Poles?
    5. ksv1973
      ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      Tired of pshek to the land ... !!! Totally shores beguiled!
      Near Smolensk, we have a huge memorial to the most fierce Russophobe Lech Kaczynski, Poland’s prezik, who hiked along with the plane through the fault of the drunken head of the Polish Air Force ...

      But did the Smolensk sledgehammers and crowbars already rust and crumble? wink
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 17 September 2015 17: 35 New
        +1
        Maybe in Poland they think that they would be better off under the Germans? Then their bestial logic is understandable. No wonder.
    6. 34 region
      34 region 17 September 2015 17: 21 New
      0
      Why are the beach pshkas mixed up? Our president himself did not respond very well to that period of time. And where are the psheks? We ourselves are doing the same. At the parade we close the mausoleum. Strange pigeon and victory symbol. Let's look at ourselves first. Who was awarded the Order of the Military or Labor Red Banner or the Order of the Red Star after 2000? Didn’t the portraits of Stalin be thrown out, and they did not bother him? What is our story 17-91 year? Only bad. Why then scream psheks?
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: 34 region
        ... Didn’t the portraits of Stalin be thrown out, but they did not bother him? What is our story 17-91 year? Only bad.

        Baby, are you out of your mind? And who has paid off the crematoriums of Buchenwald and other similar "fun places"? Would you now be GENERALLY alive, BORN, if not for our GLORIOUS story?
        1. 34 region
          34 region 17 September 2015 17: 53 New
          +3
          Dear comrade ksv1973! You are simply inattentive or read or misunderstood.
          1. ksv1973
            ksv1973 17 September 2015 18: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: 34 region
            Dear comrade ksv1973! You are simply inattentive or read or misunderstood.

            I did not minus you. It means that you did not express your thoughts too clearly.
            Regards, ksv1973. hi
            1. 34 region
              34 region 17 September 2015 18: 09 New
              +1
              hi Mutually! I accept criticism for a fuzzy thought.
            2. unsinkable
              unsinkable 17 September 2015 20: 16 New
              -1
              Of course, mutual politeness is good. But the opinion expressed by the dear lady is unequivocal and has no other interpretation than the negative. I put a minus only for the opinion, but not personally to the dear lady. yes
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        2. ksv1973
          ksv1973 17 September 2015 22: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: ksv1973
          Quote: 34 region
          ... Didn’t the portraits of Stalin be thrown out, but they did not bother him? What is our story 17-91 year? Only bad.

          Baby, are you out of your mind? And who has paid off the crematoriums of Buchenwald and other similar "fun places"? Would you now be GENERALLY alive, BORN, if not for our GLORIOUS story?

          I myself recall these words of mine, for I realized that the colleague "34 region" simply did not clearly express his thoughts. I ask him (her) to forgive me for my excessive harshness and incorrectness.
          But I also ask my colleague to express their thoughts more clearly in order to avoid such incidents that are not pleasant to any of us.
          Regards, ksv1973. hi
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      3. sever.56
        sever.56 17 September 2015 17: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: 34 region
        Why are the beach pshkas mixed up? Our president himself did not respond very well to that period of time.


        Sorry, I didn’t understand by your profile who you are. But judging by the avatar, she is a woman, and therefore I appeal to you as a woman: - Give facts where President Putin spoke poorly about the feat of our soldiers, about the contribution of the USSR (Russia) to the defeat of Nazi Germany! Do not distort! He spoke of individual facts and people who committed crimes against their people.

        Quote: 34 region
        We ourselves are doing the same.


        Well, what are we doing? Monuments demolished ??? Just everything is exactly the opposite! How many memorabilia that were destroyed in the past and new ones have been restored do you not know? Take an interest.
        Quote: 34 region
        Let's look at ourselves first.


        It’s even nice to see, in comparison with the timelessness and betrayal of the late 80s and 90s!




        Quote: 34 region
        Who was awarded the Order of the Military or Labor Red Banner or the Order of the Red Star after 2000?

        Quote: 34 region
        Who was awarded the Order of the Military or Labor Red Banner or the Order of the Red Star after 2000?


        Those deserved awards remained with those who were awarded them, and new ones replaced them.

        Quote: 34 region
        Didn’t the portraits of Stalin be thrown out, and they did not bother him?


        Just the demons of the times of the "humpbacked" and EBN were doing this, and now there is a reassessment of what happened during the Soviet era. There were many things, both good and bad. It was the liberals who tried to instill in us the views that the USSR was a country of slaves and executioners, and only now
        under Putin, we began to wash ourselves off from the dirt that the demon liberals had smeared us with !!!
        1. 34 region
          34 region 17 September 2015 18: 14 New
          +2
          If the president spoke impartially about that period of time, then what to ask from others. I’m talking about this.
    7. brelok
      brelok 17 September 2015 17: 22 New
      +2
      Bastards! ................................................ .......................
      .................................................. ............................ the rest is mate! But history will take revenge.
    8. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 17 September 2015 17: 26 New
      +2
      When I read, it was precisely such thoughts that arose. You are all set out. Therefore, I join the plus.
    9. 34 region
      34 region 17 September 2015 17: 50 New
      -2
      Come on! We Dzerzhinsky monument removed and nothing. Why is it possible for us, but not for them? Take the president parades while standing at the mausoleum under the Soviet flags and the emblem of the USSR, many would think abroad how to behave.
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 17 September 2015 18: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: 34 region
        Take the president parades while standing at the mausoleum under the Soviet flags and the emblem of the USSR, many would think abroad how to behave.


        Believe me, among Western politicians, when President Putin takes a parade on Red Square under the flag of Russia and our two-headed eagle, even without standing on the Mausoleum, the point is compressed no less, and maybe more, than it was compressed in past glorious years!
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 18 September 2015 07: 11 New
        0
        The mausoleum is a tomb. I wonder who we dance on the tombs? There was a time, fortunately passed.
    10. ejov1976
      ejov1976 17 September 2015 19: 42 New
      +4
      It’s time to start collecting signatures and funds for the transfer of the Katyn complex to Poland ...
      1. Michael - 235
        Michael - 235 17 September 2015 21: 19 New
        0
        Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
    11. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 17 September 2015 20: 13 New
      +2
      you can ban me. The Poles will still catch, and they will catch from the Russian people on the tonsils!
    12. jetfors_84
      jetfors_84 17 September 2015 20: 21 New
      +2
      I strongly support this idea. With idiots, this is the only way to talk. And I do not care deeply who crashed there near Smolensk and how. I demand to clear the place !!! Our forests look better without these flawed monuments to some psheks.
    13. ssn18
      ssn18 17 September 2015 20: 26 New
      0
      Not an eyebrow ... as they say.
      And in general, debt by payment is green.
    14. bubla5
      bubla5 17 September 2015 21: 19 New
      0
      It’s high time there drove the bulldozer and straighten out this whole memorial, it hurts a lot of friends in Russia throughout history, they always help them impoverishing their population, and in the end they mix us up in shit, so Syria also thinks, we’ll get into it very soon .
    15. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 18 September 2015 00: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      Maybe it is worth raising the issue of liquidating this memorial? What bolt should IT be on our land with when the Poles destroy monuments on their territory to those who saved them from genocide ???

      Demolishing Lech Kaczynski is indicative - not to dismantle, but to raze the earth with a bulldozer. And to hint that Poland will have the same fate. They forgot who killed 6 000 000 Poles? They forgot who saved them from cheap physical destruction? Forgot how they met Chernyakhovsky?

      To be honest, already muddied by these "monument" wars ... From the Baltic states to the very ridiculous Moldova - they are at war with monuments everywhere. We are glad that we can’t give a monument to the return of the Hare ... Although, to be honest, ours are no better either - "Mindyukino or Red Sickle" ... How many were renamed and carried! One Dzerzhinsky is worth it! And now those who dumped Dzerzhinsky are scolding the Poles who are breaking Chernyakhovsky ....

      In Madrid, for example, over the last 400 years, they say that they have not renamed a single street ... And there they also had a lot of things for 400 years, they had all sorts of regimes and dictatorships ...
  2. ksv1973
    ksv1973 17 September 2015 16: 38 New
    +15
    Shame on Poland !!!
    Where is my sledgehammer and where is there a monument to Polish politicians who died in a plane crash in the Smolensk region? They didn’t release anyone, and with their actions they only prepared what we are discussing now!
  3. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 17 September 2015 16: 38 New
    +9
    It began ................... People, do not be afraid where we are Victory! They are overthrowing out of fear, they know what the Russian fellow is capable of! The General broke the neck of the Nazi beast and betray forgetfulness of him means being likened to this animal.
    1. ksv1973
      ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      It began ................... People, do not be afraid where we are Victory! They are overthrowing out of fear, they know what the Russian fellow is capable of! The General broke the neck of the Nazi beast and betray forgetfulness of him means being likened to this animal.

      Nothing, nothing ...
      In Moldova, just now, they removed the T-34 from the pedestal. Prepared a place for the T-90 or "Almaty".
      In Poland, the monument to Chernyakhovsky was demolished - a concrete stella with its bas-relief. They prepared a place for a full-fledged bronze sculpture of 10 human growths.
      Nothing, nothing ... Let's get back ... hi
      1. SteelRatTV
        SteelRatTV 17 September 2015 17: 16 New
        +2
        There are simply no parliamentary expressions! am
  4. mig31
    mig31 17 September 2015 16: 38 New
    +8
    Soon, the igil dismantles Poland and other Baltic ambitious pseudo-states, as "independent" colonies from the United States and privatizes them with the permission of the State Department, to intimidate Great Russia ....
  5. SMS
    SMS 17 September 2015 16: 38 New
    +13
    No words - scum!
  6. vladimirw
    vladimirw 17 September 2015 16: 40 New
    +19
    And I put a plus! they teach us, they teach us. All these mongrels understand only power! And all sorts of concessions in trade relations, gas supplies, etc. are perceived by the Psheks as our weakness. and it must be stated clearly and unequivocally that Katyn is a German crime.
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 17 September 2015 16: 40 New
    +7
    Colleagues, I have the courage to say that they are “evil” - in Africa they are “evil and in Poland K” EVIL!
    1. ksv1973
      ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: V.ic
      Colleagues, I have the courage to say that they are “evil” - in Africa they are “evil and in Poland K” EVIL!

      Do not offend goats - harmless, in fact, animals.
      In Africa - the savages, and in Poland - the Elton Jones.
  8. North
    North 17 September 2015 16: 41 New
    +6
    Well this country can. then the tanker was squeezed out of it. then the monuments are crumbling. sanctions rejoices. without 3 / 4dule as without gingerbread. first in woof-no, then ohhh what we are, we’ll get out of the homo. and at least once it would be necessary to intervene in this and allow this.
    1. A-Sim
      A-Sim 17 September 2015 16: 53 New
      -1
      do not hysteria. there will be a reason - there will be a holiday. the authorities - not even a part of the country - the film is muddy from above. splashed harder and no it, and again the people themselves rise.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 17 September 2015 16: 59 New
        +5
        Quote: A-Sim
        not even part of the country - a little muddy little film on top

        among the Poles this is not a film, it is a fetid swamp
  9. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 17 September 2015 16: 45 New
    +9
    demolish on x ... Katyn memorial and monument to the victims of Smolensk birch
    1. Viktortopwar
      Viktortopwar 17 September 2015 17: 25 New
      +2
      Long live the Smolensk birches! Put a monument to Ivan Susanin there!
  10. dsi
    dsi 17 September 2015 16: 45 New
    +2
    But where were the Russian diplomats before, because in Poland they have been talking about the dismantling of this monument all the last time? Why, in fact, no measures were taken to save the monument?

    It’s like in the parable - “The Shepherd and the Wolves”.
  11. Barakuda
    Barakuda 17 September 2015 16: 48 New
    +5
    I want to go somewhere already, shoot someone ..
    The ball of de.bi.mi.
    Well, nothing, the time will come yet another set. Only then, "the womb of the bozka drana baba" let them not yell.
  12. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 17 September 2015 16: 50 New
    +5
    It's time to stop talking about fraternal peoples. I consider the Foreign Ministry statement helpless and mediocre, if only because Poland was reminded of the liberation of Poland by the Red Army and our victims, as if the Polish authorities did not know about it. While Poland is a NATO member, they put a bolt on all our statements, it would be better if the Foreign Ministry did not say anything. so as not to disgrace a country that is helpless against rudeness in its address.
  13. DREDD
    DREDD 17 September 2015 16: 54 New
    +2
    Eternal European slaves who do not remember kinship.
  14. yuriy55
    yuriy55 17 September 2015 16: 56 New
    +3
    Powerless anger (why ???) results in the demolition of monuments to people who gave their lives for the existence of these scum, which Hitler had prepared a place in gas chambers and crematorium furnaces.
    Let them know. Vile creatures! You spit in the well, to which you will come with an extended stump, when the mattresses wipe their feet about you ... am
    1. ksv1973
      ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: yuriy55
      Powerless anger (why ???) results in the demolition of monuments to people who gave their lives for the existence of these scum, which Hitler had prepared a place in gas chambers and crematorium furnaces.
      Let them know. Vile creatures! You spit in the well, to which you will come with an extended stump, when the mattresses wipe their feet about you ... am

      They won’t come, soon there will be no one - the ISIS will cut all. By its actions, the USA has completely prepared the Islamization of Europe and the bloody chaos accompanying it. After 10 years, the red stripe on the Polish flag will change to green.
  15. star44
    star44 17 September 2015 17: 00 New
    +1
    Eh. Somewhere in. Gromyko ... "Mr. no." When the answers were adequate and prompt. We must take away our monuments ... The time will come - we will return it to its place. After all, once idiotov should be replaced by thinking leaders ... I think so
  16. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 17 September 2015 17: 00 New
    +12
    Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 17 September 2015 17: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.

      Thanks Aron! We will wet!
      1. ksv1973
        ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 17 New
        0
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.

        Thanks Aron! We will wet!

        It’s better to wither - and for a beer, all together! Mmmm ... Goodies !!! drinks
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 17 September 2015 17: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: ksv1973
          and a beer, all together! Mmmm ... Goodies !!!

          Not bitter, a lot of bile. yes
          1. ksv1973
            ksv1973 17 September 2015 17: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: ksv1973
            and a beer, all together! Mmmm ... Goodies !!!

            Not bitter, a lot of bile. yes

            While soaked in brine - bitterness will come out. And after brine, you need to rinse thoroughly in cold running water. Then we hang it, head down - so that the glass contains all the residual muck, because before use, the head, as a rule, comes off and is thrown out.
            Vyalim to the point of readiness. For everyone, of course, it is different. Serve on a table decorated with the Polish flag and beer mugs.
            The presence at the table of our relatives and the most beautiful mothers, wives and adult sisters and daughters in the world is welcome !!!
            Bon Appetit!!! hi
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        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 17 September 2015 18: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: ksv1973
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.

          Thanks Aron! We will wet!

          It’s better to wither - and for a beer, all together! Mmmm ... Goodies !!! drinks

          I answered you .... hi
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 17 September 2015 18: 01 New
        +6
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.

        Thanks Aron! We will wet!

        Yes, where does the water. There are holy things that cannot be interfered with in the political bustle. Monuments to those who broke the ridge of the Nazis belong to these shrines.
        1. ksv1973
          ksv1973 17 September 2015 18: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: Aaron Zawi
          Abomination. Otherwise, it is difficult to comment.

          Thanks Aron! We will wet!

          Yes, where does the water. There are holy things that cannot be interfered with in the political bustle. Monuments to those who broke the ridge of the Nazis belong to these shrines.

          Now the Nazis are tearing down these monuments. And if they are not stopped, then after 30-40 years, the foundations of the former Auschwitz will not even have the foundations of the huts and crematorium, but pigs will graze.
          Or - even worse - black smoke will fall out of the chimney again. Something like that...
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  17. AID.S
    AID.S 17 September 2015 17: 02 New
    +2
    Typical behavior of sixes. They will choke on their own poison ...
  18. parafoiler
    parafoiler 17 September 2015 17: 02 New
    +2
    Demolish, to the mother’s editors, the memorial in Katyn to theirs, supposedly dead at the hands of the NKVD, and to their stupidly dead Kaczynski.
  19. 4ekist
    4ekist 17 September 2015 17: 03 New
    +2
    Maybe you also need to conduct a survey on the demolition of Polish monuments near Smolensk?
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 17 September 2015 17: 11 New
      +2
      demolish without x to ... dog
  20. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 17 September 2015 17: 03 New
    +4
    In vain the Soviet Union handed over part of East Germany to Poland, where Penengno (formerly Melzak) is now located. The Poles did not deserve such a “gift” (before the war they were compared in Europe with hyenas, who planned using Hitler to “chop off” the lands from neighboring states, but miscalculated) Stalin naively hoped for the integrity of the psheks alas ...
  21. brasist
    brasist 17 September 2015 17: 08 New
    +3
    So let them then give Penenzhno to the masters once the Red Army has not released their scum or they have a selective memory like a prostitute ...
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner 17 September 2015 17: 12 New
    0
    With this approach, as it were, to the Psheks, our monuments, so far little-known generals, did not have to be erected throughout Poland.
  23. Papin
    Papin 17 September 2015 17: 13 New
    +1
    Well, what can be expected from psheks besides yapping due to a fence and minor dirty tricks ?!
    In principle, nothing more than the role of a jackal.
    (turn in the country in 36 days).
  24. akudr48
    akudr48 17 September 2015 17: 14 New
    +3
    Did the Poles forget the history of "their" city?

    Poles generally suffer from historical unconsciousness, especially with regard to Russia. And selectively, they don’t remember the good, but mostly they think up bad things about the Russians.

    They fraternize with Bandera, forgetting about the Volyn massacre of 1944, when Bandera killed about 100 Polish women and children in order to annoy Russia.

    where were the Russian diplomats before, because in Poland they have been talking about the dismantling of this monument lately?

    There was no time for diplomats, they were and lived on the program of V. Solovyov "Sunday evening", they told the people about the successes of Russian diplomacy.
    1. Thor
      Thor 17 September 2015 17: 19 New
      +2
      Yes, it seems that on this program, not only diplomats "live" with us, but also elected representatives of the people, ministers, and other ranks, which it would be time to get down to business !! And do not scratch your tongues !!!
  25. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 17 September 2015 17: 15 New
    +2
    How much can these Judas be allowed to spoil what is holy?
  26. loaln
    loaln 17 September 2015 17: 19 New
    +3
    Correctly prompted in the comments. It is necessary to eliminate on the territory of Russia all the monuments and memorials associated with Poland and forget about this territory forever, bypassing it as a leper.
    People there live clearly not friends with their heads.
  27. Viktortopwar
    Viktortopwar 17 September 2015 17: 19 New
    +1
    The monument in Katyn should be removed to the trash, to plow the land, here are the retaliatory measures, these arrogant arrogant people will not understand otherwise.
  28. sagitch
    sagitch 17 September 2015 17: 20 New
    +3
    Gorbachev! He handed over everything for which millions of our grandfathers laid their lives, freeing Europe from fascism!
  29. iZVerG
    iZVerG 17 September 2015 17: 21 New
    +2
    It is not in vain that God awarded them a hissing tongue, as there are underwater snakes.
  30. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 17 September 2015 17: 24 New
    0
    One word - savages.
  31. NDR-791
    NDR-791 17 September 2015 17: 26 New
    +1
    Did the Poles forget the history of "their" city?
    Not only cities, but also countries. But Chernyakhovsky was a third Pole. I won’t be surprised if the monuments to Rokosovsky are also promoted. Old Poles were ready to pray for him. Even without any ideology. They just remembered what he had done for Poland. And now ... what can I say? No words, some drool swearing ...
  32. atamankko
    atamankko 17 September 2015 17: 32 New
    +1
    It's time for the mongrels to give a decent answer, otherwise they are completely insolent.
  33. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 17 September 2015 17: 33 New
    0
    Quote: BMP-2
    Poland is not where the Poles are. Poland is where the Anglo-Saxons are ...

    Interesting times have come: I naively thought that the Poles live in Poland, but they don’t live and work anywhere, and the Anglo-Saxons “work” in Poland and pensioners live. And there are NATO troops there, not to be confused with the Polish Army. Something bad: somehow there is a territory called Poland, but there’s been no state for a long time, a paradox or a pattern request ?!
  34. tinibar
    tinibar 17 September 2015 17: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: ksv1973
    Quote: herruvim
    Polish geopolitical blowers forgot who freed them

    There will be no release next time, as well as such an abominable concept - "Poland".

    And they themselves will destroy Poland, destroying their history to please the new owners. For them, it is preferable to be lackeys of Americans than Russian brothers. Well, the flag in them ... They are doomed!
  35. Vasisualiy
    Vasisualiy 17 September 2015 18: 22 New
    +2
    We Russians should always remember that the Pole is not a nationality - this is a profession. And their homeland is where their money is. They always let snot out of their homeland, but they live with their money.

    No wonder M. Gorky used to say that such a hissing tongue cannot but belong to the serpentine people.
  36. nord62
    nord62 17 September 2015 18: 34 New
    +4
    here are the nits! words are not enough (even swearing) to characterize the Polish nation! Ugh! sad
  37. X Y Z
    X Y Z 17 September 2015 18: 35 New
    +2
    And the toothless policy of our Foreign Ministry contributes to all this. You can express your concern for a long time and without much success. It is well known that the most memorable places for every radical Polish Russophobe are in our country. Not only do the Poles require unhindered and year-round access to them, but the size of the proposed memorials exceeds all imagination. And we still bargain with them and try to reason. These village boys, appointed by the "Europeans," do not know the retention and recognize only the force that we are ashamed to use. No, of course, Russia should not and cannot wage a war of monuments, but it is simply obliged to put in place the presumptuous "Europeans", otherwise it will come to the complete demolition of all memorials to the heroes of the Red Army.
  38. Weyland
    Weyland 17 September 2015 18: 45 New
    +3
    In Poland, nevertheless, a monument was dismantled to General I.D.

    It was not necessary to give Melzak to the Poles - then the monument would have stood as before! Something I have never heard so that the vanquished the Germans tried to dismantle the monuments to our soldiers - this only exempted the nations sin with us! am
    1. 1536
      1536 17 September 2015 19: 16 New
      +1
      I would like to believe in it, but in my opinion, the Germans are preparing to demolish the monuments to the soldiers-liberators.
  39. -Bugor-
    -Bugor- 17 September 2015 18: 51 New
    +2
    Psheks have always been vile gan .. negative
  40. 31rus
    31rus 17 September 2015 18: 54 New
    +1
    I agree with the opinion of 34reqion, I’ll only add that we have the same monuments to soldiers defiled and “children’s” give deadlines, all this without the action of higher officials both in the embassy and in the Kremlin, Warsaw feels without punishment, and gas (and where does gas) , but at the same time we feed the bastards, break the contracts and spit on all the demarches
  41. sisa29
    sisa29 17 September 2015 18: 54 New
    +5
    Scum, no words!
  42. 1536
    1536 17 September 2015 19: 09 New
    +4
    The best monument to commemorate the victory over fascism in this territory would be the tank battalion of the Russian army stationed there. Today, the Poles think that this is impossible. By no means, when the Americans, under the weight of their own problems, will get out of Europe, then we will recall this insult to the Poles. And it will be, gentlemen of the Poles. Do not rely on our forgiveness. Revenge is not in our tradition, but rudeness is no longer tolerated! Children and grandchildren bequeathed contempt for the people, which exists thanks to Russia and the Russians.
  43. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 17 September 2015 19: 13 New
    +2
    That's what it reminds me of. laughing
  44. pvv113
    pvv113 17 September 2015 19: 30 New
    +3
    Did the Poles forget the history of "their" city?

    Everyone will be rewarded according to his deeds.
  45. iouris
    iouris 17 September 2015 19: 31 New
    +1
    The standard of living in Poland is now significantly higher than in the Russian Federation. This is the result of perestroika processes: the main thing is to start and the process has begun. There is no economy, no military power, no political influence. It is impossible to demand from diplomats to compensate for the absence of weakness.
  46. Arandir
    Arandir 17 September 2015 19: 37 New
    +3
    They only got to this monument for several years. They also say loudly that they are ready to stop all of Russia. They barely won the monument. As the "iron chancellor" Lavrov said: "d.
  47. roskot
    roskot 17 September 2015 19: 38 New
    +1
    Ungrateful pshek. These monuments will come back to you.
  48. KRIG55
    KRIG55 17 September 2015 19: 39 New
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    Yes, while we chewed snot the west did the trick. Now the Japanese believe that the USSR dropped the atomic bomb, the Europeans believe that they were exceptional from the brown plague. Well, the Poles have always been prostitutes. It’s a pity the ruined lives of Soviet soldiers who liberated them. Once again, don’t do good and you won’t get evil.
  49. salomeeff
    salomeeff 17 September 2015 19: 49 New
    +1
    The Psheks quickly forgot the story! In vain our fathers and grandfathers laid their heads on Polish soil for Warsaw, Krakow and other cities and towns, in vain, the Poles are not a nation, but a profession.
  50. da Vinci
    da Vinci 17 September 2015 20: 21 New
    +1
    To erect a monument in Moscow in honor of the liberation from Polish aggression from the time of the impostor Grishka! drinks