Kazakhstan has approved an agreement with the Russian Federation on the site Balkhash

The lower house of Kazakhstan’s parliament ratified an agreement with Russia on the transfer and use of the Balkhash hub in the Russian missile attack warning system (SPRN), the newspaper reported Look.




“The Balkhash hub is used by the Russian Federation in the EWS system on the basis of an intergovernmental agreement of December 14 from 1994. The new document on the use of this object was signed by the parties in December 2014 of the year and replaces the previously existing agreements, ”the conclusion of the chamber on the bill states.

“The signing of the new agreement was dictated by the need to revise its individual provisions and to take into account the interests of the Republic of Kazakhstan on the use of this node,” said Defense Minister Okas Saparov at a meeting of the parliament.

The document includes several new conditions. “Firstly, (supposedly) a phased transition to the joint operation of the Balkhash hub and the organization of training for Kazakhstani military personnel. Secondly, by the end of 2016, the Russian side undertakes to implement measures for issuing information from the missile attack warning system and the space monitoring system to the state and military control points of the Kazakh side, ”said Saparov.

In addition, the new agreement has significantly reduced the size of the land used by the Russians within the Balkhash node.

“The agreement corresponds to the foreign policy course of friendship and mutual cooperation of our states. The Balkhash center plays an important role in ensuring the military security of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation, ”said the Minister, addressing the deputies before voting.
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  1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 03 New
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    Well, thanks, Kazakhs ..! Create your own weakly ...))))
    1. Vladimirets 17 September 2015 16: 06 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Create your own weakly.

      They or us? smile
      1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 12 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Create your own weakly.

        They or us? smile

        They certainly .. And we would have rented ..! bully Not profitable!
        1. Vladimirets 17 September 2015 16: 15 New
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          Im sure.

          Why do they need a "node in Russian SPRN system? belay
          1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 44 New
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            Im sure.

            Why do they need a "node in Russian SPRN system? belay

            Well, so simple ... bully Tipo and we are not bast ... hi
        2. Now we are free 17 September 2015 16: 32 New
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          Thanks to the Kazakh Brothers and Nazarbayev personally, we are doing one thing and the same dangers are facing our states. The only question worries what will happen when Nursultan Abishevich leaves for one reason or another? I really hope that he has prepared for himself an adequate and competent heir who will act like Nazarbayev in close cooperation with the Russian Federation.
          1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 17: 03 New
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            I really hope that he has prepared for himself an adequate and competent heir who will act like Nazarbayev in close cooperation with the Russian Federation.

            Of all our neighbors, only Old Man seriously prepared for the transfer of power to a successor. yes
            1. Mihail29 18 September 2015 07: 06 New
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              To his youngest son.
          2. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 49 New
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            Quote: Now we are free
            Thanks to the Kazakh Brothers and Nazarbayev personally, we are doing one thing and the same dangers are facing our states. The only question worries what will happen when Nursultan Abishevich leaves for one reason or another? I really hope that he has prepared for himself an adequate and competent heir who will act like Nazarbayev in close cooperation with the Russian Federation.
            His daughter ... shopping, etc. son-in-law .. same thing! I also hoped .... hi
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      2. Sterlya 17 September 2015 19: 42 New
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        yes the trouble is to build in the former allies. today, yes. no tomorrow. Yes, and read before that there is almost nothing there in the work. need to build. will build. and then who will replace Nursultan and what kind of policies will one hedgehog know.
    2. Oznob 17 September 2015 16: 14 New
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      That is all right. For this, they unite in alliances.
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    4. Non-jumping 19 September 2015 20: 03 New
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      Well, thanks, Kazakhs ..! Create your own weakly ...))))

      Yes, the Kazakhs do not need nafig. They do not have and will have neither nuclear weapons, nor missile defense, nor a missile attack warning system, nor any ambitions to pursue an independent policy. Just another loophole is created to transmit unique secret information to the “partners”. Do not stand as an empty desert idle!
  2. Sergey K. 17 September 2015 16: 04 New
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    Well done Kazakhs even despite the fact that the current conditions for Russia are not as attractive as before. The course of friendship between our countries should be strengthened despite all the intrigues of the West.
    1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 10 New
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      Well done Kazakhs! The course of friendship between our countries should be strengthened despite all the intrigues of the West.

      That's right ... but they live on leases! Baikonur leaves them ... It's expensive and always in doubt .. Well, for the rest let them rent ...)))
      1. Sergey K. 17 September 2015 16: 18 New
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        That's right ... but they live on leases! Baikonur leaves them ... It's expensive and always in doubt .. Well, for the rest let them rent ...)))

        I agree, Baikonur is not cheap for us. Therefore, the Vostochny Cosmodrome was originally planned to be created as a replacement for the Kazakhstan site. The most important thing is the relationship between our countries. And I really do not want them to once repeat the fate of the Russian-Ukrainian.
        1. Baikonur 17 September 2015 16: 27 New
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          After the commissioning of Vostochny, the issue of renting Baikonur will be very sensitive! Already, the spaceport staff has been reduced to a minimum. And when the Angara launch is built (I don’t know of course how long this trehomudiya will last), all the more so Baikonur with an already fully developed resource (for example, the 2nd platform, from which the Unions and Progress will start in 2010 should have been written off (50 years), completely repaired, and this is almost impossible in the current situation, that is, it rests on the Soviet honest conscience of designers and builders). Let's see how the "East" is built. Sorry to wait a long time. in at least 50 years it will be possible to compare with the legendary Gagarin launch! I will not live.

          PS: And for rent Nazarbayev receives $ 150 a year!
          1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 36 New
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            PS: And for rent Nazarbayev receives $ 150 a year

            Soon he will not receive and blackmail .... Maybe he will start serving ...? bully
            1. Baikonur 17 September 2015 16: 41 New
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              Kazakhstan is not capable of this. Our specialists are ending, we need them (the more so the military was completely removed. And what experienced guys, young specialists were! Eh !!!), but they didn’t!
            2. kuz363 17 September 2015 17: 36 New
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              More precisely, then 115 million. Plus the cost of maintaining the city of Baikonur.
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      3. Vladimirets 17 September 2015 16: 45 New
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        That's right ... but they live on leases!

        Who! Kazakhs !? belay Lease of Baikonur - 115 million dollars, GDP of Kazakhstan - 212 billion. Something you are unevenly breathing to the Kazakhs. smile
        1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 16: 49 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          Something you are unevenly breathing to the Kazakhs. smile

          Travanuli they Mikhan our pale vodka and that was a grudge. belay
          1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 17: 03 New
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            Quote: Krasmash
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Something you are unevenly breathing to the Kazakhs. smile

            Travanuli they Mikhan our pale vodka and that was a grudge. belay

            Travanuli cognac .... heart attack ...! I’ll go hunting with a machine gun ... bully I will cut the reed ..... drinks
            1. Kasym 17 September 2015 18: 11 New
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              D.raka includes Meehan. 150 million dollars - rent of all objects of the Russian Federation in the Republic of Kazakhstan. But only Baikonur and Sary-Shagan occupy an area in a third of Germany in area. And now compare with the country's budget-40 billion .. That's all arithmetic.
              Apparently Kazakhs stepped on Mikhan’s tail. It doesn't even make sense to talk to him - how much can you !? laughing . Already gathered with a machine gun. lol
            2. Krasmash 17 September 2015 18: 23 New
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              Travanuli cognac .... heart attack ...!

              Bastards angry. By the way, I prefer Dagestan. It’s very good. Here you support the domestic manufacturer.
              1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 42 New
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                Quote: Krasmash
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                Travanuli cognac .... heart attack ...!

                Bastards angry. By the way, I prefer Dagestan. It’s very good. Here you support the domestic manufacturer.

                Better Armenian .... bully But Dagestan did not drink for a long time ...! And the Kazakh, pulls to the machine gun .... That's honest! bully
                1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 19: 47 New
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                  Quote: MIKHAN

                  Better armenian

                  Naturally better than all whiskeys, there aren’t even any questions. drinks
                  1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 54 New
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                    Something I went to the Kazakhs .....! bully Well, it’s good for them ...! bully
                    1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 20: 02 New
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                      Something I went to Kazakhs

                      And this is because no,still another ethnic group of people. laughing
                2. Boa kaa 17 September 2015 23: 51 New
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                  Better Armenian ...
                  Vital, I had to drink a lot of things. Starting from Rubin and 3-star Armenian and ending with Hennessy and other imported food. But a 10-year-old TORES remained in my memory. But bought in Spain, and not in the Russian Federation, after unloading at our wine and vodka factories!
                  I highly recommend.
                  Yours faithfully, hi
  3. sever.56 17 September 2015 16: 06 New
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    With all due respect to the Kazakhs, as allies: - they cannot use this site without Russia and our specialists. What is unpleasantly surprising in the position of the Kazakhs is an attempt to extract material benefit from this arrangement, as in the situation with Baikonur. Alas, Baikonur is very expensive for us. With the commissioning of the East, our dependence on Baikonur will decrease significantly. And we will give them information in any way. We are obligated to this by cooperation agreements within the framework of the CSTO and our own interests.
    1. Vladimirets 17 September 2015 16: 13 New
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      Quote: sever.56
      it is an attempt to derive material benefits from this arrangement, as in the situation with Baikonur.

      Friendship is friendship ... I think we should not make a tragedy out of it, after all, this is another country. request
      1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 17: 24 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
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        it is an attempt to derive material benefits from this arrangement, as in the situation with Baikonur.

        Friendship is friendship ... I think we should not make a tragedy out of it, after all, this is another country. request

        What other ...? All the same cohort ... yurts and Bay, dushmans, etc ..
        1. Vladimirets 17 September 2015 17: 40 New
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          All the same cohort ... yurts and Bay, dushmans, etc ..

          Judging by the characters, the events in the film took place on the territory of modern Turkmenistan. wink
      2. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 17: 48 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: sever.56
        it is an attempt to derive material benefits from this arrangement, as in the situation with Baikonur.

        Friendship is friendship ... I think we should not make a tragedy out of it, after all, this is another country. request

        another country ..? They sat on gas and oil .... Astana was moved closer to Russia .... We’ll cover a pancake ...! The territory is huge and not controlled ... Why do they need it?
    2. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 14 New
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      With all due respect to the Kazakhs, as allies: - they cannot use this site without Russia and our specialists. What is unpleasantly surprising in the position of the Kazakhs is an attempt to extract material benefit from this arrangement, as in the situation with Baikonur. Alas, Baikonur is very expensive for us. With the commissioning of the East, our dependence on Baikonur will decrease significantly. And we will give them information in any way. We are obligated to this by cooperation agreements within the framework of the CSTO and our own interests.

      Nothing to add..! that's right ... Russia will always cover!
      1. Kasym 17 September 2015 18: 23 New
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        Sever56, and you there too. I will satisfy your curiosity. Yours and our experts have calculated how much money is needed to maintain the city and the spaceport. The city is subsidized, there are no productions, everything is subordinate to the work of the cosmodrome. And how much do you think you need money to maintain the city and the spaceport? Then the figure of 115 million came out. And that was in the late 90s. Since then, the rental price has not changed. Moreover, the State Budget does not receive money, they go directly to the city, for its needs. So all this rent to us, Kazakhstanis, gives nothing. Moreover, initially you gave us military equipment. Well, for example, the Su-27, which have exhausted resources. Your pilots who drove them were ashamed of such a technique. So think about where the Kazakhs put sticks in the wheels. I am sure that you will not find such a case in modern history. hi
        1. ssss605 17 September 2015 18: 41 New
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          Sorry for the curiosity ... and you yourself were in the city ....?
        2. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 18: 49 New
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          Sever56, and you there too. I will satisfy your curiosity. Yours and our experts have calculated how much money is needed to maintain the city and the spaceport. The city is subsidized, there are no productions, everything is subordinate to the work of the cosmodrome. And how much do you think you need money to maintain the city and the spaceport? Then the figure of 115 million came out. And that was in the late 90s. Since then, the rental price has not changed. Moreover, the State Budget does not receive money, they go directly to the city, for its needs. So all this rent to us, Kazakhstanis, gives nothing. Moreover, initially you gave us military equipment. Well, for example, the Su-27, which have exhausted resources. Your pilots who drove them were ashamed of such a technique. So think about where the Kazakhs put sticks in the wheels. I am sure that you will not find such a case in modern history. hi

          Well, okay ..... everyone can Baikonur to tear metal, tear it .... And what else can you do ..? On Su -27
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          will they fight?

          In the event of an invasion of the hordes of ISIS by Central Asia, Kazakhstan will be the first to come to the rescue of 201 bases.

          Run up to the tents and auls ... Cut sheep and cook storm ... I know them ...! hi
          1. Kasym 17 September 2015 19: 40 New
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            We know how to do locomotives and rolling stock. Trucks, cars and tractors. By the way, the militias have our night devices.
            And why don't you like our yurts and rams? Shish kebab is good only from lamb. Look, your Ukrainian brothers came to visit somehow, so don’t tear them yes good from our kitchen was. Kuyrdak (he asked his home-mother, he was dragged directly to a restaurant in a cauldron), beshparmak, manti and pilaf; what kind of kazy is there to say (they took home home and asked if they should bring something) ... with a bang !!! Well, actually, we all “eat” pancakes, borsch, dumplings, we know, we know, these are frequent guests of our tables. hi
            1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 19: 50 New
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              Look, your Ukrainian brothers came to visit somehow, so don’t tear them away yes good from our kitchen

              And you from their vodka laughing laughing laughing
              1. Kasym 17 September 2015 21: 30 New
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                Krasmash, but this is not necessary. Our alcohol consumption has fallen sharply compared to the 90s. Our wine-vodka owners were just happy from the opening of the Russian market. The quality is excellent - in its juice, when the quality was boiled, they raised it. So I can’t even imagine where Mikhan was travailing. Cognac "Zhetysu", "Kazakhstan", "Batyr", etc. all guests praise. Soon it will flow from our Texas (Chimkent) - there are large vineyards pitched. So I don’t know where and in which such a “hole” I dug up a palette. We have few people engaged in this tent, because they drink less and less. drinks
                1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 22: 17 New
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                  Our alcohol consumption has fallen sharply compared to the 90s

                  And I didn’t say that you have a lot of witches, dear.
                  One snacks drags, the second drink, the third provides a room, the girls still have a good call. winked
            2. IAlex 17 September 2015 20: 04 New
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              How are things at the plant which American TE33A locomotives assembled?
              1. Kasym 17 September 2015 20: 11 New
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                Well, for example, Azerbaijan ordered. In Siberia, it was successfully tested.
            3. killganoff 17 September 2015 22: 30 New
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              That kebab, that mutton pilaf - omno. you have only grapes and A. our good. Baikonur really pulled metal ... look sorry.
              I treat Kazakhstan well, but I can say for sure that Baikonur will die without Russia.
        3. sever.56 17 September 2015 19: 26 New
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          Moreover, the State Budget does not receive money, they go directly to the city, for its needs. So all this rent to us, Kazakhstanis, gives nothing.


          Dauren, excuse me, but: - Is Baikonur not part of Kazakhstan, or does it have a separate status? And to whom then does rent give something if, as you say, it "gives us, Kazakhstanis, nothing" ???
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          Think about where the Kazakhs put sticks in the wheels


          Did I say somewhere that the Kazakhs put sticks in our wheels? I don’t see a hint to confirm your words. I just talked about material benefits, nothing more ...
          Do not try to find in my words that which cannot be there by definition. hi
          1. Kasym 17 September 2015 20: 33 New
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            Valery, yes there is a separate status, your Administration is sitting there, your police and laws. I repeat, the money goes directly to Leninsk, for all expenses (maintenance of infrastructure and premises, etc.).
            The contentious issue is as follows. Nothing is invested in infrastructure, everything deteriorates, nothing new is being built. Therefore (stand in our place — if the Russian Federation leaves Baikonur, then we get reinforced concrete trash) we proposed recently (about 5 years ago) to run the economy together, so that Kazakhstan could invest in the city and the cosmodrome (as legal there was no basis for this - the city and the spaceport under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation). Have you heard anything about Baiterek (RK lost 200 mil green at Baikonur)?
            I’ll even tell you more (as if Mikhan hadn’t grabbed a new heart attack, we live on lease, as he claims). We proposed to abandon the lease, but "help with space" - at least so that the city does not turn into a ghost. For example, they offered money for the East, money for Zenit (but here are your graters with ho.hlam).
            I didn’t think you would be "offended", but believe me, that we do not see anything financially. As they say, everything is fraternal in this matter. hi
            1. sever.56 17 September 2015 23: 35 New
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              Dauren, thanks for the clarification. Not everything is so simple with Baikonur ... A lot of different information both from one side and the other. Some Kazakh politicians spoke, and the media, at one time, wrote that without the Kazakh Baikonur, the Russian space program is kirdyk. Naturally, this alerted Russia, and, moreover, the foreign policy vector of your state’s development towards China was outlined, there were talk that Kazakhstan could terminate the lease agreement with Russia and provide launch sites for both the states and China. Agree that a sovereign state cannot risk its strategic programs. Accordingly, - it was decided to build the East and transfer there the bulk of the launches. No offense. It's my opinion. hi
              1. Kasym 18 September 2015 00: 40 New
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                Valery is not at all. These are all rumors. There was not even a case of launch cancellation. All the policies of Kazakhstan in "Nur Otan" (analogous to the United Russia) are separate individuals. The whole parliament is Nur Otan. Except for a couple of places of "manual opposition" (man-made, if you want).
                Look at the lease terms of Baikonur, and more need an officer. arrangements to watch. All people in stripes from outer space say that it is impossible to leave Baikonur. Reasons: from field location to infrastructure (BAM-2 is needed, otherwise the whole message will get on the railway). Another thing is that you need to have a backup start. The eastern of the two sites will be (Angara and Union), but how many on Baikonur !? That Proton, he will not have a replacement for 15 years. It even got to the point that they nevertheless decided to reanimate Baiterek on Baikonur. We are ready to allocate money for this - the purse of the Russian Federation is not rubber - why not share the "burden". Reasonable, after all.
                The task of Kazakhstan in Baikonur is to prevent the first cosmodrome on the planet from turning into a pile of rubbish and people will not run to look for the “best share”. We do not claim the status of a cosmic power or any other sky-high plans. But since there is a cosmodrome on our territory, then why should such a household lose - at least for general purposes. Here is a fact for you: only in 1998 we began to receive a "rental". Prior to this, the RK itself “dragged” the object, and Roscosmos hit itself in the chest. This is really so - then everything was tight and the RK went towards it and did not demand anything. Try h.ohly money for gas transit not to receive - here I am about that. So the approach of Kazakhstan to Baikonur was only friendly and fraternal.
                Here Mikhan writes that Baikonur is being pulled away in pieces of iron - and who is guarding someone whose object and whose jurisdiction !? Meehan needs to look in the mirror. It's silly to blame someone here.
                Yes, what grievances can be - we are only happy for the East. The startup market is only growing. He even wants to have his companions in Peru, there will be enough space for both cosmodromes - there is no doubt. And the launches are also related to the environment, so unload us. And I wanted the launch market not to be lost - I am only happy for the new developments and successes of the Russian Federation in this field.
                It is unlikely that Vostochny will pull the bulk - one launch is several days of BAM's downtime at the moment (hence the BAM-2 project, and if you recall how many BAM were built !?), this is a bunch of trains with components and chemistry. hi
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  5. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 17 New
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    We are building in Orsk .. and frontier posts on the border .. Kazakhstan as it was nomadic and remained ..! (No offense)
    1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 16: 30 New
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      Kazakhstan was nomadic and remained ..!

      Aha, especially Astana, one big tent. laughing. And why are you always throwing a barrel to the Kazakhs, after all, they are not Jews with Poles who are not allies to us.
      1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 41 New
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        Kazakhstan was nomadic and remained ..!

        Aha, especially Astana, one big tent. laughing. And why are you always throwing a barrel to the Kazakhs, after all, they are not Jews with Poles who are not allies to us.

        laughing laughing Angry at the tents! What were they and remained ....
    2. sherp2015 17 September 2015 22: 16 New
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      Kazakhstan as it was nomadic and remained ..! (No offense)



      Back in the 70s, he served in Northern Kazakhstan, so shock construction was in full swing. Modern factories were built: metallurgical, oil refining, thermal power plants, woodworking, tractor and others. The Kazakhs themselves, I mean urban ones, read a lot, studied at secondary and higher educational institutions, many engineers, doctors, foremen ... And the people are not bad, quite reliable and without backward speed.
  6. 31rus 17 September 2015 16: 22 New
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    All right, we don’t give the same weapon to Kazakhstan, but sell it, so everything is fine
  7. IAlex 17 September 2015 16: 28 New
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    So they in my opinion destroyed this center as about 5 years ago, when they demolished the control building of the locator there was still a scandal on the left docks for demolition?
    1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 51 New
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      So they in my opinion destroyed this center as about 5 years ago, when they demolished the control building of the locator there was still a scandal on the left docks for demolition?

      ugrohali .... we will pay them more money ...!
      1. Kasym 17 September 2015 18: 43 New
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        IAIex. You are confusing something. Maybe you mean Darial? It burned down in 2004, and never went into operation. Construction was frozen after the collapse of the USSR.
        Now the old station is working. The Dniester, or its modernized version of the Dnieper - I do not remember exactly, it still works. There would be a new one to deploy. Voronezh is being commissioned in the Russian Federation (various modifications), and is being built quickly. hi
        1. IAlex 17 September 2015 19: 41 New
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          belay And why were there two whole stations? Well, what’s not yourselves stuck there ... And explain to Fede why the mustache was ... rrrr demolished the station? :)))))))))))))))))
          1. Kasym 17 September 2015 21: 03 New
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            Darial was built to replace the old one, the readiness was high, but ... not fate. Therefore, the old plow. hi
  8. star44 17 September 2015 16: 45 New
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    "Balkhash Knot" ... The first time I hear this name. We are talking about Priozersk, founded in 1956 by the military, led by General Dorokhov ...
    That's what Wikipedia says about him.
    Priozersk is a closed city (ZATO) in the Karaganda (at one time Dzhezkazgan (Zhezkazgan)) region of Kazakhstan, the administrative center of the Sary-Shagan training ground. It is located in the Betpak-Dala desert (in the Hungry Steppe) on the Korzhintubek peninsula of Lake Balkhash, 10 km southeast of the Sary-Shagan railway station of the Mointa-Shu railway, built in 1956. 15 km west of the city is the military flounder "Flounder".
    The distance from the city of Priozersk to the regional center of Karaganda is 546 kilometers, to the capital of Kazakhstan Astana - 736 kilometers. In the vicinity of Priozersk there is another closed city - Balkhash-9.
    The city of Priozersk was founded in 1956, its population was the military and civilian personnel of the 10th research test site of missile defense systems (ABM) Sary-Shagan. The main selection criteria for the site were, as in the creation of the missile sites Kapustin Yar and NIIP-5 (Baikonur), the presence of sparsely populated plain treeless terrain, a large number of cloudless days, and the absence of valuable farmland. Marshal Nedelin recalled: This is a very harsh desert region, uninhabited, unsuitable even for grazing flocks. Stony barren and waterless desert. But the main housing estate of the missile defense site can be tied to Lake Balkhash. It has fresh, albeit harsh, water, and the town will be blissful if this word can be applied to the desert.
    Thanks to tests conducted on the basis of this testing ground in the late 1950s and 1970s, the USSR was able to create effective interceptor missiles for the missile defense system. Thus, parity in the arms race with the United States was achieved and the threat of a nuclear war between the two superpowers ceased to be an urgent problem in world politics.
    According to the agreements reached after the collapse of the USSR, some of the facilities of the test site were leased by the Russian Federation - Russia for a period of 50 years and continue to be used to improve the armament and development of new weapons systems for missile defense and air defense.

    In 1993, about 19 people lived in the city and there were:
    289 residential buildings, with a total of 7 apartments;
    12 hotels and hostels with a total number of beds 1 932;
    11 kindergartens for 2 places;
    four high schools for 4 students;
    5 freestanding and 11 built-in stores;
    5 restaurants and canteens;
    two cinemas and a gardo;
    palace of pioneers and schoolchildren;
    TV studio and telecentre.
    Now from myself ...
    Before the collapse of the union, the city was beautiful, clean and green. In addition to everything, it is a military city with a special access regime. There were almost no “indigenous” people in it then. During the post-Soviet time, much was destroyed ... Currently, the Kazakh authorities plan to revive the city as a republican resort. Sanatorium complexes are already being built on the banks of Balkhash. Apparently they need this agreement, including, and for this ...
  9. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 16: 47 New
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    On hops they hang around and shoot sometimes ....! Cool.... wassat
    1. APASUS 17 September 2015 19: 08 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      On hops they hang around and shoot sometimes ....! Cool....

      They know how to shoot, that's for sure. It is very interesting to read the foreign comments of such Kazakh teachings
      1. IAlex 17 September 2015 19: 55 New
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        I neighing heartily, to the commentator’s phrase about the benefits of salvation, I also thought ... And at the end, the commentator says: “The operation was successful. The hostages were released” - well, if you fought against terrorists and released hostages into a different world, then the task 5 points :)))
      2. killganoff 17 September 2015 22: 39 New
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        The film “Borat” will reveal the true soul of Kazakh to you. )))
    2. IAlex 17 September 2015 19: 49 New
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      Wow, they have snow there, and most importantly, why spoil the mountains like that? wassat
  10. atamankko 17 September 2015 17: 41 New
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    Among the Kazakhs there are a lot of people sympathizing with Russia.
    1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 17: 55 New
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      Quote: atamankko
      Among the Kazakhs there are a lot of people sympathizing with Russia.

      will they fight? just because you have to! Or will they hold onto land and oil towers? hi
      1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 18: 19 New
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        will they fight?

        In the event of an invasion of the hordes of ISIS by Central Asia, Kazakhstan will be the first to come to the rescue of 201 bases.
        1. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 04 New
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          Quote: Krasmash
          Quote: MIKHAN
          will they fight?

          In the event of an invasion of the hordes of ISIS by Central Asia, Kazakhstan will be the first to come to the rescue of 201 bases.

          Well, I don’t know ... I’ll be silent ..! Do not know where else they will be driven ....! hi
      2. Kasym 17 September 2015 19: 10 New
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        It is interesting, and when did we fool around, when was it bad for everyone?
        All oil tanks go to the National Fund, and not to the budget - this is for you to know !!! And to maintain the economy of the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan spent 30 billion this year alone. - this is also for you to know !!! When the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power plant exploded, who came to the rescue and why the region sat with the “light” !? When the drought was - who is 1 mil. I reserved tons at myself !? When the gas wars "happened" - who said they would continue to blackmail - "basta, we must build to the East"? Since then, RK has built 2 gas pipelines and one oil pipeline (which was given to Rosneft for Russian oil) in the PRC. And the GDP was flirting with the West, and now it’s building a fever (we also gave Gazprom money). I didn’t see such “nishtyaks” from Russia, and we didn’t ask you for anything. Or you can give an example !? hi
        1. Krasmash 17 September 2015 19: 39 New
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          When the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power plant exploded, who came to the rescue and why the region sat with the “light” !?

          Oho. And where did you get so much energy from? We have been puzzled by the Krasnoyarsk Hydroelectric Power Station after this catastrophe with an increase in electricity generation.
          1. Kasym 17 September 2015 21: 09 New
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            Pavlodar connected. hi . The south had to be fed from the Uzbeks and Kyrgyz. I remember the guys 500KW could not find in Alma-Ata - "in the near future and do not wait." hi
    2. killganoff 17 September 2015 22: 43 New
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      Yes, but more and more Russians are fleeing from Kazakhstan, they are not giving our brother a normal life. There certainly is not Chechnya, but less and less Russian speakers. There is even a program to populate northern territories with plans, and bright nationalism flourishes there.
  11. Old26 17 September 2015 18: 53 New
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    PS: And for rent Nazarbayev receives $ 150 a year!

    You are wrong, Eugene. EMNIP 115 MILLION! dollars a year.

    This is the second topic about the Balkhash node. In the past I asked a question: what the hell ... what for it is needed, what for this node is needed. It is completely incomprehensible. The Irkutsk junction overlaps the Balkhash sector and has a large range. Plus the Barnaul junction. Well, I would understand if we had signed it with them about 5 years ago, when only one station remained in Irkutsk. But now...
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      Pakistan and India possess nuclear weapons. hi
    2. Semurg 17 September 2015 20: 05 New
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      Quote: Old26
      Quote: Baikonur
      PS: And for rent Nazarbayev receives $ 150 a year!

      You are wrong, Eugene. EMNIP 115 MILLION! dollars a year.

      This is the second topic about the Balkhash node. In the past I asked a question: what the hell ... what for it is needed, what for this node is needed. It is completely incomprehensible. The Irkutsk junction overlaps the Balkhash sector and has a large range. Plus the Barnaul junction. Well, I would understand if we had signed it with them about 5 years ago, when only one station remained in Irkutsk. But now...

      probably you need a military presence in the very center of Kazakhstan. There probably is a runway for a quick build-up of forces and means in which case, under the cover of a lease for this military facility. From Priozersk it is perfectly possible to block the railway and the road connecting the south and north of Kazakhstan. In general, a convenient place in all respects, except for the needs of early warning of missile launches. By the way, Mikhan, what was transferred from the Ukrainian front to the Kazakh one with a personal machine gun?
  12. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 19: 11 New
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    The bottom line is ... Something the Kazakhs, like everyone else, only require money! If that soak everyone ....! I hope the hand does not flinch! hi
    1. Kasym 17 September 2015 19: 29 New
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      Kindergarten - "wet" for what and whom !?
    2. Zymran 17 September 2015 19: 35 New
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      Then Obama will give us the Javelins. bully
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        Then Obama will give us the Javelins. bully

        Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, the main thing is to pay a little more, because there hahlam everything somehow does not break off Amer’s weapons wink
    3. Alibekulu 17 September 2015 20: 16 New
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      Quote: Kasym
      D.raka includes Meehan.
      He is a fool and does not need to be turned on. This option is in his basic configuration .. repeat
      Mikhan is only a worthy successor of the tradition of "holy fools" in Russia. So he became a marshal .. soldier bully
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      If that water everyone ....!
      But you can’t get too big ..?!
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      will they fight?
      I drank all my brains laughing ?! Or basically ..
      As if the Kazakhs had already fought. In Tojikiston 90's ..
  13. Old26 17 September 2015 19: 53 New
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    And why were there two whole stations? Well, what are you currently stuck in there ...

    Шесть
  14. Evgeniy30 17 September 2015 20: 02 New
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    Quote: Kasym
    It is interesting, and when did we fool around, when was it bad for everyone?
    All oil tanks go to the National Fund, and not to the budget - this is for you to know !!! And to maintain the economy of the Russian Federation, Kazakhstan spent 30 billion this year alone. - this is also for you to know !!! When the Sayano-Shushenskaya hydroelectric power plant exploded, who came to the rescue and why the region sat with the “light” !? When the drought was - who is 1 mil. I reserved tons at myself !? When the gas wars "happened" - who said they would continue to blackmail - "basta, we must build to the East"? Since then, RK has built 2 gas pipelines and one oil pipeline (which was given to Rosneft for Russian oil) in the PRC. And the GDP was flirting with the West, and now it’s building a fever (we also gave Gazprom money). I didn’t see such “nishtyaks” from Russia, and we didn’t ask you for anything. Or you can give an example !? hi

    Yes, do not pay attention to these statements. The vast majority of Russians respect Kazakhstan and believe in our eternal friendship. I read the comments of some Kazakh Natsiks on YouTube the other day, I also took anger at first, but I still think Natsik is everywhere in the minority.
    1. Semurg 17 September 2015 20: 13 New
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      Quote: Eugene30

      Yes, do not pay attention to these statements. The vast majority of Russians respect Kazakhstan and believe in our eternal friendship. I read the comments of some Kazakh Natsiks on YouTube the other day, I also took anger at first, but I still think Natsik is everywhere in the minority.

      You need to build all such facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation, after the departure of the National Academy of Sciences, there will not be a sharp change, but the government will be more nationally oriented, so to speak, and it is possible that all military facilities not belonging to the army of Kazakhstan will be asked to leave with things.
  15. MIKHAN 17 September 2015 20: 03 New
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    Well, everyone talked ... fine ...! laughing Let's get a look! Silently ....
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    You know, it was always interesting to listen to the opinions of interesting, and most importantly, competent people, in fact, without too much dust and tinsel. But, here are frequent, one-sided and short-sighted, perhaps even biased opuses of some "comrades". In which, the topic turns simply into a babskiy chatter, where the general is chattering, not offering anything sensible, and the private, but painful, turns out. Not enough attention? Make friends, dog, in the end. If it is not clear, then I turn to you, Mikhan and others like you, "cornflower blue." Whatever the topic, breed on the "srach". Or do you, like Pavlov’s dog, have reflexes for this? You remind me of the hero from the movie "Afonya", Vladimir Ivanovich is called there, so he holds the speech there at the meeting. In a word, just "try to".
    PySy: Nomads, like village guys, will be stronger ...
    1. Kasym 17 September 2015 21: 17 New
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      There is a slightly different "diagnosis". West in the Russian Federation took up arms and barks, well, it is necessary for Mikhan and his ilk to merge the whole "nigat". Like, something of a skeleton in a closet. It is necessary - pulled out, beat and put it back. Probably the mood is rising. hi
      1. anti-Semite 17 September 2015 21: 33 New
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        for the sake of justice, there are enough Russophobian Kazakhs on the network
  17. Evgeniy30 17 September 2015 21: 02 New
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    Quote: Eugene30

    Yes, do not pay attention to these statements. The vast majority of Russians respect Kazakhstan and believe in our eternal friendship. I read the comments of some Kazakh Natsiks on YouTube the other day, I also took anger at first, but I still think Natsik is everywhere in the minority.

    You need to build all such facilities on the territory of the Russian Federation, after the departure of the National Academy of Sciences, there will not be a sharp change, but the government will be more nationally oriented, so to speak, and it is possible that all military facilities not belonging to the army of Kazakhstan will be asked to leave with things.

    There is, of course, a risk that the situation will change dramatically (as in Georgia or Ukraine), because certain moods in Kazakh society are heating up for this. Including all kinds of American funds are active. But here we must work, create our own funds, and strengthen centuries-old ties. And then in Ukraine, our embassy was engaged in hell knows what, when the Americans rustled with might and main. But important objects must be duplicated, of course.
  18. Old26 17 September 2015 21: 21 New
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    Quote: Semurg
    probably you need a military presence in the very center of Kazakhstan. There probably is a runway for a quick build-up of forces and means in which case, under the cover of a lease for this military facility. From Priozersk it is perfectly possible to block the railway and the road connecting the south and north of Kazakhstan. In general, a convenient place in all respects, except for the needs of early warning of missile launches. By the way, Mikhan, what was transferred from the Ukrainian front to the Kazakh one with a personal machine gun?

    But are we talking about ORTU? About the radar site
  19. Raptor_RB 18 September 2015 04: 54 New
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    The territory is cut off. To give out information. Well OK, like brothers. I remember the 90s in Kustanai. They were ready to cut us. Miracle of Chechnya did not work. Thank you, Kazakhs. Then we'll talk.