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The New York Times: Russia resists EU attempts to repeat Libyan scenario in the Mediterranean

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The New York Times has published material that says that European countries ’attempts to obtain permission from the UN Security Council at the start of a military operation against ships suspected of transporting illegal migrants in the Mediterranean have stumbled upon resistance from the Russian Federation, RIA reports "News". According to the authors, Russia needs guarantees that this permission will not entail more extensive intervention.




Europeans use the organization’s seventh article by the Security Council to obtain permission for military vessels to go to the international waters of the Mediterranean to inspect and detain vessels.

Russia refers to the Security Council resolution, which was adopted in 2011 year, also on the basis of the seventh chapter of the Charter, which allowed the adoption of "all necessary measures" to protect the civilians of Libya. Then the Russian Federation abstained from voting, but as a result military intervention began.

According to Vitaly Churkin, Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation to the UN, it is necessary to resist any measures that could lead to the deployment of military actions. He stressed that it is first necessary to ensure that no precedent is created. Churkin also opposes the resolution to fall fully within the scope of the seventh article of the Charter, permitting, in this connection, military intervention.

It is planned that the draft resolution will be distributed to all 15 Security Council members on Tuesday and negotiations will resume in the coming days. According to Western diplomats, it is possible that it will be accepted even before the arrival of world leaders at the session of the General Assembly, which will begin at the end of the month.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 September 2015 08: 05 New
    +31
    Here you’re scum, how they want to bomb the defenseless! How much blood has already been shed ...
    1. little girl15
      little girl15 17 September 2015 08: 10 New
      +10
      It's all about money. Big money ... And the rest is from the evil one.
      1. SSR
        SSR 17 September 2015 08: 24 New
        +9
        Quote: Vovochka15
        It's all about money. Big money ... And the rest is from the evil one.

        So money from the evil one.)))
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 17 September 2015 08: 58 New
          +6
          Russia refers to the Security Council resolution that was adopted in 2011, also on the basis of the seventh chapter of the Charter, which allowed the adoption of "all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya. Then the Russian Federation abstained from voting, but as a result, military intervention began.
          - from article

          Then the President of the Russian Federation was "green", life unprepared for such a post, D. Medvedev, he caved in under the USA and the West, in fact opened the "green light" for US and NATO military intervention in Libya. It is on his conscience the death of the state of Libya, the death of its thousands of citizens, and Gaddaffy himself.
          But then Russia could and was obliged to veto in the UN Security Council on the intervention of these forces in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.
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          2. Air Force captain
            Air Force captain 17 September 2015 09: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Russia refers to the Security Council resolution that was adopted in 2011, also on the basis of the seventh chapter of the Charter, which allowed the adoption of "all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya. Then the Russian Federation abstained from voting, but as a result, military intervention began.
            - from article

            Then the President of the Russian Federation was "green", life unprepared for such a post, D. Medvedev, he caved in under the USA and the West, in fact opened the "green light" for US and NATO military intervention in Libya. It is on his conscience the death of the state of Libya, the death of its thousands of citizens, and Gaddaffy himself.
            But then Russia could and was obliged to veto in the UN Security Council on the intervention of these forces in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.

            Let Medvedev be the president then ... however, I don’t believe that he had the opportunity to make individual decisions .... I’m quite sure that the GDP also drove the country, only through his head. But who is not mistaken?
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 17 September 2015 10: 26 New
              0
              Let Medvedev be the president then ... however, I don’t believe that he had the opportunity to make individual decisions .... I’m quite sure that the GDP also drove the country, only through his head. But who is not mistaken?
              - Air Force Captain

              It's not a mistake. The political situation miscalculated as "twice two = four."
              It was necessary to duplicate the "veto" on dozens, if not hundreds, of situations where the US intervened in the sovereign affairs of other states.
              But then the drunken D. Medvedev, led either by the Frenchman Sarkozy or the Italian Berlusconi, can’t remember this video, with the stupid drunken smile of D. Medvedev, at the next GXNUMX, he simply handed over Libya to the USA and NATO.
              I hope that Putin was not involved in this, he was not then at the GXNUMX. Dima himself steered, “it's so cool to be the President of Russia,” as he once said in an interview.
          3. neri73-r
            neri73-r 17 September 2015 12: 56 New
            +1
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Russia refers to the Security Council resolution that was adopted in 2011, also on the basis of the seventh chapter of the Charter, which allowed the adoption of "all necessary measures" to protect civilians in Libya. Then the Russian Federation abstained from voting, but as a result, military intervention began.
            - from article

            Then the President of the Russian Federation was "green", life unprepared for such a post, D. Medvedev, he caved in under the USA and the West, in fact opened the "green light" for US and NATO military intervention in Libya. It is on his conscience the death of the state of Libya, the death of its thousands of citizens, and Gaddaffy himself.
            But then Russia could and was obliged to veto in the UN Security Council on the intervention of these forces in the internal affairs of a sovereign state.


            Yes, he will never be prepared, look Medvedev 50 years old, Bashar al-Assad also turns 50 in September, but you watch his interview with our channels, this is earth and sky, what is the manner of presenting information, the very content of this information, so everything is logical, understandable and etc ... I wish we had such a premiere ........ eh
          4. yastr
            yastr 17 September 2015 16: 31 New
            0
            First of all, it is on the conscience of those who bombed and killed.
            1. vladimirZ
              vladimirZ 18 September 2015 04: 22 New
              0
              First of all, it is on the conscience of those who bombed and killed.
              - yastr

              Those who bombed and killed were criminals; by definition, they have no conscience.
              But those who were silent, indifferently passed by ... I remind you of the already known old truth:
              "Do not be afraid of enemies - in the worst case, they can kill you. Be afraid of those who are indifferent, for it is with their tacit consent that all the lowest crimes are committed on earth,"
              or this:
              "Fear the indifferent - they do not kill and do not betray, but only with their tacit consent do treason and lies exist on earth."
        2. little girl15
          little girl15 17 September 2015 09: 08 New
          -1
          By "crafty" I meant the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon.
      2. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 17 September 2015 09: 23 New
        +2
        No, not only money, unlimited power yet. Overwhelmed by greed and thirst for profit, they grow on human blood. But they themselves do not understand that they have not yet grown to such power. So the blood is pouring. These financial bigwigs over how to drive a mad animal into a grave. Only a strong state is capable of this.
    2. Sensatus
      Sensatus 17 September 2015 08: 10 New
      +10
      So, according to the Americans, it is Europe that is to blame for the lawlessness with refugees? As usual, a thief shouts “Hold the thief” loudest.

      I’m wondering why the Americans (there is little doubt) organized such an explosive growth of migrants to Europe right now? After all, the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, but before there was no such flow. And the US-Europe transatlantic partnership does not need to have millions of unemployed refugees in Europe. Or did something go wrong?
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 17 September 2015 08: 18 New
        +3
        Quote: Sensatus
        I’m wondering why the Americans (there is little doubt) organized such an explosive growth of migrants to Europe right now? After all, the war in Syria has been going on for 4 years, but before there was no such flow.


        Thus, the Americans are trying to push European leaders to actively support the militants, and even decide on an air intervention to overthrow Assad, in view of Russia's help to the latter. Here is such a simple plan. hi
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 17 September 2015 12: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Max_Bauder
          Americans are trying to push European leaders to actively support militants
          These passive “leaders,” to say the least, more pleasant it would be more convenient to shoot barges with refugees in the Mediterranean than to climb into hell.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 17 September 2015 08: 32 New
        +8
        Quote: Sensatus
        And the US transatlantic partnership with Europe does not need to have millions of unemployed refugees in Europe


        Dear Ilya, why do you think that the United States needs a stable and united Europe?
        Stable Europe will grow with economic growth, and economic growth will push Europe into the "embrace" of Russia, on the one hand it is a huge sales market, and on the other hand, energy resources. And with the successful development of such a development option, the role of the United States as a global mint is lost, however, as is the role of a global hegemon. It is not in vain that the Yankees are pushing the option of a transatlantic partnership, it is a kind of "role of a person watching over Europe." Yes, and the military-industrial complex "shtatovskogo" wants revenue growth, and for this stability is a hindrance.

        Well, like that.
      3. KazaK Bo
        KazaK Bo 17 September 2015 08: 55 New
        +1
        Sensatus
        So, according to the Americans, it is Europe that is to blame for the lawlessness with refugees? As usual, a thief shouts “Hold the thief” loudest.

        It's always like that! After all, everyone knows that in muddy water it is always easier to catch fat crucians! Here are the Americans and "muddied" everywhere .. where there is money or raw materials that gives a lot of money ... They consider themselves a pike-nurse ... restoring order in the world ... establishing under the guise of "DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY" devastation and chaos! And the guilty "scapegoat" is appointed by those who, to the extent of their self-determination, express dissatisfaction and resistance to such a Yankee policy.
        But for every pike there will be LITTLE SPARK, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE AGGRESSIVE CREATION TO BE PUT OUT TO THE SUN!
      4. Hell's Angel
        Hell's Angel 17 September 2015 10: 09 New
        +1
        I’m wondering why the Americans (there is little doubt) organized such an explosive growth of migrants to Europe right now?
        Have you noticed, let's say, the “qualitative composition” of these refugees? 80 percent of healthy young men?
        There was an assumption on some of the resources that the SGA wants to organize great chaos in the EU at the expense of migrants. And as soon as the EU asks for assistance from the SGA to organize an “annexation” of the entire EU.
        Well, purely my guess. You can show the enemy to all these “migrants. You cannot force the native citizens of the EU to fight (“ How I served in the Bundeswehr ”on“ VO ”), and these citizenship and well-fed lives will go anywhere. Well, plus the citizens of the country 404, Romanians, Poles. And who will appoint an enemy to guess is not necessary.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 17 September 2015 08: 23 New
      +4
      Yes, you have to catch the wrong vessels. And those that bring oil stolen to BV to Europe. But this is kept silent in Europe.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 17 September 2015 08: 09 New
    +3
    No, dear partners, take a larger spoon and slurp, slurp. yes
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 17 September 2015 08: 11 New
      +27
      - Dad, what is your hat on your head?
      - This is a keffiyeh, my son. It protects us in the desert from unbearable heat.
      - Dad, what kind of clothes are you on top?
      - This is jellaba. She protects us in the desert from the scorching heat.
      “Dad, what is it that such terrible shoes are on your feet?”
      “These are grandmothers, my son.” They protect us in the desert from the hot sand.
      “Dad, what the hell are you wearing all this in autumn in Frankfurt?” laughing
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 17 September 2015 08: 18 New
        +2
        Remake about Novosibirsk camels?
        1. SSR
          SSR 17 September 2015 08: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Remake about Novosibirsk camels?


          An old joke, only sometimes it’s a boy asking mom, dad but the essence is the same.)))

          The Negro prays to God:
          “Lord, why did you reward me with black skin?”
          - Because the white skin is too delicate for burning
          sun rays of Africa.
          - God, why do I have short curly hair?
          - Because long hair would cling to trees and
          creepers in the jungle of Africa.
          - God, but why was I then born in Saratov? Siberia ..... And so on
        2. Curculum
          Curculum 17 September 2015 09: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Remake about Novosibirsk camels?

          yeah, only in the euro realities.
  3. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 17 September 2015 08: 12 New
    +4
    They committed crimes, but they want to evade the consequences.
    All this Western community does not cause anything but a feeling of disgust, they have deprived people of the right to live a normal life in the country, now they want to finish off those who were able to survive, and could kill someone else after one.
  4. vladimirw
    vladimirw 17 September 2015 08: 14 New
    +10
    It is good that they remembered Libya. Then in 2011, our "abstinence" untied the hands of NATO and the United States. And now we have a complete collapse in the entire Middle (to us!) East. and millions of refugees and hundreds of thousands killed. A pind .. sitting behind a puddle and rubbing their hands, and in addition unleashed a war in Ukraine
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 17 September 2015 08: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: vladimirw
      Then in 2011, our "abstinence" untied the hands of NATO and the United States. And now we have

      By the way, remember who was the president of the Russian Federation then? I really like his abbreviation DAM! Davalka, but honest!
  5. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 17 September 2015 08: 19 New
    0
    Finally, the language of diplomacy begins to take on understandable features, and then everything is all around ... YES - so YES, and NO - so NO!
  6. gsg95588
    gsg95588 17 September 2015 08: 19 New
    +5
    It is clear that under the pretext of the fight against immigrants, they will detain Russian ships going to Syria ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 17 September 2015 08: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: gsg95588
      they will delay Russian ships going to Syria ...

      A tanker under the flag of the Russian Federation was detained recently in Libya, allegedly for oil smuggling. The crew is arrested. http://www.rg.ru/2015/09/17/tanker-anons.html
      It can be seen that the smoked USA condit decided to annoy the Russian Federation at least in this way by setting thugs on our sailors.
  7. meriem1
    meriem1 17 September 2015 08: 20 New
    +5
    Permanent Representative We have the right Man. Wise by vast experience. He knows exactly what he is doing. And in general, lately, I’m not ashamed of the deep case !!! Not that with Kozyrev ....
  8. Sakhalin.
    Sakhalin. 17 September 2015 08: 21 New
    +1
    Sometimes it is assumed that all Western "partners" are bloodthirsty nerds!
  9. Andrea
    Andrea 17 September 2015 08: 21 New
    +4
    Here it is liberal democracy in action and tolerance also makes us sick of you, but we put up with you ...
    They do it, and Russia again has to follow, as if this old senile Europe had not committed suicide.
  10. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 17 September 2015 08: 23 New
    +13
    Europeans use the seventh article of the Security Council of the organization to obtain permission for military vessels to go to the international waters of the Mediterranean Sea to inspect and detain ships
    Fussed, accomplices
  11. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 17 September 2015 08: 26 New
    +2
    Try to deal with the consequence, instead of fighting the cause.

    And will refugees caught in the sea be given the opportunity to shout "I ask for asylum in the European Union", or is it only possible on earth?

    And how is a marine refugee different from a land refugee? Or, as soon as he enters the blessed land of the EU, which flows with milk and honey, he immediately rises above himself? laughing
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 17 September 2015 08: 28 New
    +1
    They want to play another war scenario: where will civilians die. Thank God this time Russia is not silent, being a permanent member of the Security Council, and has the right to veto.
  13. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 17 September 2015 08: 37 New
    +15
    Yes, Europe got ...)))) Russia had to obey!
  14. zombiunian
    zombiunian 17 September 2015 08: 42 New
    +3
    There is a son with his parents
    son: Dad! Dad!
    parent: i'm not dad i'm mom
    son: yes you will understand 3.14rov
  15. atamankko
    atamankko 17 September 2015 08: 43 New
    +1
    The US and NATO have long spit on international law and
    the deaths of thousands of civilians, and now the EU in their hands.
  16. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 17 September 2015 08: 43 New
    0
    Once again, I look and admire Our Representative.
    Now, if the Chairman of the State Duma had also examined and approved draft laws with partiality and from different angles of view, how much better would you and I live now ...?
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 17 September 2015 08: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      Now, if the Chairman of the State Duma had also examined and approved draft laws with partiality and from different angles of view, how much better would you and I live now ...?



      Our Chairman of the State Duma, and most of it, are concerned about improving the quality of their life and the life of the elite. Ordinary people are not taken into account by them ...
  17. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 17 September 2015 08: 51 New
    0
    Sorry, maybe not the topic ....
    Does anyone have information on the arrest of our tanker in Libya and its accusation of oil smuggling? Maybe this is somehow connected with the question voiced above. And is this not an incident as a paid-up share in order to put pressure on Russia and circumvent Russia's demands?
    Share information with anyone!
    hi
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 17 September 2015 09: 25 New
      0
      Sorry, maybe not the topic ....
      The tanker is small, and obviously works for some middle-level businessman ..
      A typical African incident: someone got it to someone ...
      There is no politics here.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 September 2015 08: 55 New
    +2
    it is necessary to resist any measures that could entail the deployment of hostilities.

    Of course it is necessary to resist. But the United States has long spit on international law, UN resolutions and the UN Security Council. They no one decree. But unification of the majority of countries against the United States is not yet realistic; too many are dependent on them.
  19. 31rus
    31rus 17 September 2015 09: 38 New
    +1
    It’s just that Europe needs to be “finished off”, drawn into another crisis, creating instability, which will lead to an outflow of capital and talents to America, besides making Europe completely dependent on the USA, they will try (already do) to create a blank wall with Russia, here’s a strategic plan , you can say Ukraine has not fulfilled (only partially) its role in destabilizing Europe, Europe will not climb into Syria, Russia is already firmly stating its arguments, that’s where the refugees come from and new attempts to drag Europe into the next shit, and for some reason I’m sure it’s pulled into shit to the ears
  20. ikshacooper
    ikshacooper 17 September 2015 09: 50 New
    0
    "Then the President of the Russian Federation was" green ", life unprepared for such a post, D. Medvedev"
    Well, perhaps only formally, I believe that the supreme was nearby and suggested to Dmitry where black is, where white ...)))
  21. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 17 September 2015 09: 51 New
    0
    If the West pushes its intention through the UN Assembly, then international law will be finally buried and the hands of the West, and especially Americans, will be unleashed for world terror. Under this permission, it will be possible to do everything as once the American Bush himself allowed everything in poor Iraq.
  22. roskot
    roskot 17 September 2015 10: 37 New
    0
    Quote: meriem1
    Permanent Representative We have the right Man. Wise by vast experience. He knows exactly what he is doing. And in general, lately, I’m not ashamed of the deep case !!! Not that with Kozyrev ....


    And what, Kozyrev was the Minister of Foreign Affairs. In my opinion it was the US ambassador to our country. Painfully famously took under the visor for any squeak from behind the puddle.
  23. 35lisment35
    35lisment35 17 September 2015 12: 03 New
    0
    Well, for some reason, we did not surrender to Syria, but what was the worse for Libya?