About foreign athletes choosing Russia

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An Hyun Soo (Victor An), Roy Jones, Vic Ivan Wilde, Jeff Monson, Christian Noboa, Ariklenes Ferreira (Ari). What unites all these people besides the fact that they are professional athletes? What unites them is that they either have already received Russian citizenship, are either preparing to receive it, or express an active desire to become citizens of the Russian Federation. And if the question of why the representatives of the Slavic sports fraternity (figure skater Tatiana Volosozhar, snowboarder Assol Slivets, skier, born and raised in Slovenia, Alexander Glebov, etc.), expressed in their time the desire to get a Russian passport, is not particularly acute (everything so it is clear), then the situation with representatives of foreign countries looks very entertaining.

The fact is that for many years we managed to get used to the fact that athletes usually leave Russia, often accepting foreign citizenship, and here everything is exactly the opposite - foreigners come with the intention to get a Russian passport. And after all, these foreigners are not at all painters and handlers of paving slabs from the sunny Central Asian republics, which would be easily explained, and often outstanding representatives of the sports environment, whose names are known far beyond the countries in which they were born.

Well, it’s possible to explain everything with Vic Wilde and Victor Aom: it’s clear that Mutko jumped in on the Sochi Winter Olympics, awards, bonuses, housing - the athletes accepted the offer to perform as part of the Russian team. And Vick Wilde also has a Russian beautiful wife - an athlete ... However, not everything in this case is measured by money, square meters and beautiful wives. There is also something that is pushing the athlete to decide on a change of residence, lifestyle, to obtain citizenship of the country to which the authorities of your country, to put it mildly, have a specific attitude. So where does this impulse come from? Where did he come from Roy Jones or Jeff Monson? ..

To understand this, you need to refer to the words of foreign professional athletes expressed in an interview with various media.

Jeff Monson (quote TASS):
When I get Russian citizenship, my dream will come true. I already feel Russian, and I will soon become official. After I receive Russian citizenship, I will open my school or several schools of MMA. I want to give back what people have been giving me here for years.


Roy Jones (quote rsport.ru):
I will learn Russian. I want to speak so well in Russian that you understand me without any problems. I think it will take about a year. I hope that next year I will speak like a Russian. I respect the open Russian people, Russia.


For your information:

Jeff Monson (nickname Snowman) is an 44-year-old American athlete performing in mixed martial arts. The world champion in jiu-jitsu, two-time winner of the ADCC wrestling tournament. Currently lives in Florida USA. Simultaneously with the application for Russian citizenship, he announced that he was going to move to the Crimea.

Roy Jones. 46 years. American boxer, world champion in three weight categories. 12 September 2015 was granted Russian citizenship by presidential decree No. 454.

From the decree:
In accordance with clause "a" of Article 89 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, I decree:
Satisfy the application for admission to the citizenship of the Russian Federation Jones Jr. Roy Levesta, born 16 January 1969 in the United States of America.


About foreign athletes choosing Russia


After information about obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation or about the desire to obtain it by American (and not only American) athletes, confrontation on the Web became apparent. In a number of cases, compatriots (Russians) said: they say, what do you believe in this Jones and Monson? .. No, they say, they have no tender feelings for Russians and Russia, this is all solely because of the promotion of sunset their careers are professional athletes. Can we accept this? Hardly. There is no point in arranging a “daisy” about whether they love us with fiery love or do not love, if only because from love to hate and from hate to love, as you know, one step ...

But about the "PR" can speculate. Well, even if foreigners wake up in Monson, Jones, Vick Wilde and others. The desire to further promote themselves to foreigners, does this have something “criminal”? Politicians are often satisfied with much more energy-intensive PR, forgetting after the elections both about these promises and about the fact that they are politicians in general, and not wiping pants on leather chairs. These sportsmen don’t claim and don’t need political laurels (tea, not Gaidar and not Saakashvili ...).

Each of them does his job, and in fact he does excellently, and much more effectively than many politicians advertising Russia, creating its positive image. Is this not a variant of that very policy of soft power, when one speech (even if not a fight, but a regular interview) of the renowned Roy Jones, famous all over the world, can be an excellent hook for “storytellers” from CNN or Voice of America?

The fact that an American citizen, and a well-known citizen - an athlete (and not one, and not just an American) preferred Russia to the States - is, if I may say so, extensive trolling both for the States and for all those who are fighting with a liberal head about shouting the wall “From here it’s necessary to bring down!” Or dump, then they will dump, but not far away, keeping the red book of the Russian passport in your pocket. As an example, the actor Anatoly Pashinin, who pours mud in buckets, but the passport remains with him ...

And with regard to the interest of foreign athletes in Russian citizenship, you can use a catch phrase: one is an accident, two is a coincidence, three is a pattern ... And if this pattern not only does not play against Russia, but brings its own advantages (recall at least three Olympic gold medals Korean Victor Ana, who brought Seoul to hysterics and mass trials in the style of "How did we miss it?"), then, as the modern youth says, thumbs up.
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  1. +48
    17 September 2015 05: 42
    I am not opposed to granting Russian citizenship to foreigners by presidential decrees, but unfortunately we often forget about those Russians and their families who for years, as they say, on a general basis, have been trying to acquire Russian citizenship by returning to Russia from the national republics of the former USSR, and these people sometimes no less deserved than the newly-minted "Russians" ...
    1. +23
      17 September 2015 06: 32
      I do not agree with you. For several months I was an employee of the VUS in one village council. The Russians who moved to us from Kazakhstan received citizenship within 5-6 months, with the Ukrainians it is more difficult, but also. not more than a year. The conscription age and "storerooms", unlike some of ours, were registered within 3-4 days after obtaining citizenship. I personally do not observe "PR" here. Agree it will be enough to open in any city "Roy's boxing school JONES 'coach is ROY himself "and here's a PR.
      1. +3
        17 September 2015 09: 47
        Kazakhstan, Belarus, and get Russian citizenship according to a simplified scheme, and you ask the FMS how long it takes to receive Russian citizenship from Turkmenistan or Uzbekistan, Ukraine or Azerbaijan. All foreign actors and athletes receive our citizenship for several dozens days, and people living in the Donbass all go with passports of the city of Ukraine, well, they are not well-known actor-athletes and the people of Donbass are apparently not very Russian, unlike the inhabitants of the Crimea. You can push the DNR-LNR, in accordance with the Minsk agreements, back to Ukraine or not to push, but the people of Donbass should get the city of the Russian Federation, at one time the citizens of Abkhazia and South Ossetia were given our citizenship and nothing, well, think about a pin .. we’ll introduce the next sanctions, we’ll survive it.
    2. +5
      17 September 2015 10: 36
      Quote: Volka
      I am not opposed to granting Russian citizenship to foreigners by presidential decrees, but unfortunately we often forget about those Russians and their families who for years, as they say, on a general basis, have been trying to acquire Russian citizenship by returning to Russia from the national republics of the former USSR, and these people sometimes no less deserved than the newly-minted "Russians" ...


      The fact is, Dear Volka, that ordinary people do not increase the ratings of both the country and the authorities are understandable. And they are expensive for the authorities, but these with the loot will come.
      Incidentally, I am absolutely not against the actions of the authorities regarding. specified in the article, this is really a good advertisement for the homeland.
      But the question raised by the colleague really has a place to be, and the program of returning compatriots, spread by the authorities, turned out to be another zilch. Not everywhere, I do not want to insult all the leaders, I know life stories where everything happened great. But nationwide alas ....
      1. 0
        17 September 2015 13: 30
        someone will later say that they were all born not far from yellowstone ...
    3. +1
      17 September 2015 19: 23
      I can confirm from personal experience: I have been seeking Russian citizenship for FOUR years. And during these 4 years I have listened to everything in my address. From insults to "you will get your passport now, and then you will start demanding housing!"
  2. +14
    17 September 2015 05: 55
    In the 90s, people dreamed of living in the USA and Europe, something has changed in this world.
    1. -21
      17 September 2015 06: 34
      Kremlin propaganda in action !!! :-)
      1. 0
        17 September 2015 16: 27
        is that bad? should be what, washington?
        1. +1
          17 September 2015 18: 23
          For TUGODUMOV: "Kremlin propaganda in action !!! :-)" - this is sarcasm and irony !!!
    2. -7
      17 September 2015 07: 06
      Vaschet, he is a drunk and violent ...
      1. +7
        17 September 2015 10: 21
        So what? It is in their tolerant country he is violent. In our country, instead of long boring trials in court, a couple of times when drunk, he grabs good lyuli for a riot and quickly becomes polite. It is faster and more intelligible in terms of education.
        1. +2
          17 September 2015 16: 05
          But in my opinion, everything comes back, remember Rastrelli (father and son). It's all about perspective, if they felt it here and for themselves, then why not try it !? Moreover, there is support from the authorities! And the country (RF) has all the prospects for becoming a world leader on an equal footing with the United States. Well, you must have already looked closely at the country and all these Western tales were "poured down the toilet". hi
  3. +51
    17 September 2015 06: 13
    Monson has had a hammer and sickle tattoo on his body for a long time, USSR. He went to battles with the Russian flag and our anthem and our songs. This has been for many years. So it's stupid to talk about PR in relation to "Snowman".
    1. +3
      17 September 2015 06: 53
      Yes! He is interested in politics and knows what's what, who is a dirty adversary and is ready for dirty tricks and who is honestly fighting.
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    3. +6
      17 September 2015 10: 22
      I am convinced that he is an anarchist), but I want to say the following regarding them (Roy Johnson and Jeff Monson): at first I thought that obtaining Russian citizenship is for them such a PR project coupled with the possibility of receiving dividends from business projects (opening boxing schools and struggle in Russia), and then I asked myself the question - would I really not go to such a school? even if Roy or Jeff remained American citizens? would you send your sons? He answered immediately to himself, given their skill - he went and sent. So be that as it may - I am for such people to be our citizens, or just work for us!
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    5. +4
      17 September 2015 11: 56
      Quote: BecmepH
      Monson has had a hammer and sickle tattoo on his body for a long time, USSR. He went to battles with the Russian flag and our anthem and our songs. This has been for many years. So it's stupid to talk about PR in relation to "Snowman".


      But for me it’s great when such people relate themselves to Russian culture and Russia as a whole. They are far from being stupid people and are ready to benefit our country. What’s wrong with that?
      1. +3
        17 September 2015 12: 01
        Quote: NEXUS
        And for me it’s great when such people relate themselves to Russian culture and Russia as a whole.

      2. +1
        17 September 2015 14: 14
        Steven Seagal - CIA agent ... true retired
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    1. +2
      17 September 2015 06: 44
      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      ..and only then will you feel what it means to be a citizen of R \ F ..!

      Aha, like life with legs apart. for a dumb photo minus.
      1. -1
        17 September 2015 06: 54
        Alexander, if you understand everything .. then the photo is not "stupid" ..!
  5. 0
    17 September 2015 06: 23
    But there must be control over them. Who knows, did they come of their own free will, and what are they going to do besides sports, in particular, in Crimea? Although, I believe and hope that they are truly from a pure soul and with good intentions ...
  6. +5
    17 September 2015 06: 36
    They would still deprive some citizenship ... It would be very good.
  7. +26
    17 September 2015 06: 37
    And it would be nice if the whole liberal riffraff and the rest were dumped. And everyone is welcome - welcome!
    1. 0
      17 September 2015 13: 36
      Do you want a Russian passport ... what is the problem ... 2 years in hot spots serve .. and get a passport and breathe freely
  8. +5
    17 September 2015 06: 41
    It should be so. We are just not used to it.
    1. +3
      17 September 2015 12: 04
      Quote: strelets
      It should be so. We are just not used to it.

  9. +2
    17 September 2015 06: 59
    It will take 10-20 years, the Arabs will rule in Europe, the economy will stall in America, the war in the Middle East ... And in Russia? And in Russia, as always, it will be calm and safe! They are moving quietly)) But we do not need these "refugees" in such quantity as in Europe!
  10. +11
    17 September 2015 07: 00
    In any case, these guys are good or bad, we need people, we need to increase the country's population. And if these guys are also athletes, I’m only for! And all the cocaine-hashish elite tries over the hill!
    1. +4
      17 September 2015 10: 24
      Who is younger with money, a very active life and world fame - such will open his own sports school ... How many guys can such a coach bring up. With the general and widespread rise in healthy patriotism, this is an even greater plus.
      And what about the same Monson in an open troll of sanctions for the Crimean theme. This is propagandistic Klondike through not only official politics, but also popular diplomacy.
  11. +8
    17 September 2015 07: 06
    As an example, the actor Anatoly Pashinin, who pours buckets of slop on Russia, but the passport remains with him ...
    It’s high time to deprive the fuck of citizenship, let it light up there in his "nunka" together with Gorbunkov ... she died, she died.
  12. +23
    17 September 2015 07: 15
    I absolutely do not mind if my children are trained by Monson or Jones, I am an athlete myself and I know if my child after training does not become a great athlete, then the door from which side opens to learn and he will have a core. Better such "settlers" than black cloaks with a loophole in the eyes, which can also teach children, just not what they need. And yes, I agree this is partly PR, but PR is playing into our hands.
    1. +1
      17 September 2015 12: 20
      This is US PR in the first place.
  13. +2
    17 September 2015 07: 17
    Or maybe everything is much simpler, and the matter is in taxes, because athletes and actors are not poor people, and taxes in Europe and the USA are different from ours? For example, in France there is a tax on TV (a payment once a year), which even pays to pay, but in our country, own it for free!)) ... For example ....
    1. +1
      17 September 2015 09: 00
      Roy Jones himself told Putin that having a Russian passport, it will be easier for him to move between countries - he will not need to apply for a visa, etc. So there is also a simple business calculation. Now, if all these "immigrants" renounced their former citizenship - then it would be a completely different "question".
      1. +1
        17 September 2015 12: 17
        and that is why he chose the Crimea for living? zone under us sanctions. complete nonsense.
    2. +1
      17 September 2015 12: 18
      a distinctive feature of our people is not to look at their own benefit, but to consider someone else's. why? hi from the USSR? )
  14. -11
    17 September 2015 07: 35
    It's all show-off, it's just like putting on a T-shirt with Putin and anywhere in Washington. Look who sympathizes and appeals for R.G. these are world-famous athletes and show business sharks, Roy Jones, Jeff Monson, Depardieu, Steven Seagal , Mickey Rourke, Fred Durst, Stephen Tyler, Sami Naceri and others, if ordinary Americans asked R.G. that's another matter, but it's all PR.
    1. +3
      17 September 2015 09: 07
      Nobody will write to you about ordinary Americans
  15. +3
    17 September 2015 07: 44
    I may be a little wrong, but pricking Motherland on her foot is not comme il faut. I'm jarring. Let there, wears a T-shirt. Such things are pricked on the chest! Under the heart. I don’t know, I didn’t like this action
  16. +9
    17 September 2015 07: 50
    Although Monson has a too brutal appearance, his soul gravitates toward Russia. DostOin (Russian citizenship).
  17. +1
    17 September 2015 08: 24
    Not everything is as rosy as the author described. But everything is absolutely nice
  18. +1
    17 September 2015 08: 49
    Citizenship of Russia should be a privilege. And we trade like a bunch of radishes in the bazaar. For all these actors, athletes, it's just PR, and we drool with pride
    1. +2
      17 September 2015 11: 14
      Take Monson for example, he started talking about his sympathies for Russia quite a long time ago, has good relations with Yamelyanenko, and Fedor is a worthy person and I think he understands people. So in this case, PR has nothing to do with it.
      Depardieu, in my opinion, did not immediately conceal that he received citizenship for the sake of more modest taxation. And here the matter seems to be not in PR.
    2. +1
      17 September 2015 12: 13
      a distinctive feature of our people is not to look at their own benefit, but to consider someone else's. why? hi from the USSR? )
  19. +1
    17 September 2015 09: 11
    Monson, Roy Jones - this, of course, is good, but it's more PR. But now, almost in large numbers, promising athletes of Olympic sports are fleeing quite a bit from Ukraine to Russia. Why doesn’t anyone write about this? I am still surprised: how can they maintain a fairly high level of sport there in Ukraine? Although ... Sport of the highest achievements is also a showcase of the country's success. For the sake of this, money is not a pity. Well, or almost not a pity. Well, or very sorry, but it is necessary ... sad
  20. +7
    17 September 2015 10: 06
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  21. +3
    17 September 2015 10: 32
    Monsou - respect and respect, I have been following his career for a long time. PR is not forbidden to anyone, but Monson does not need this.
  22. +2
    17 September 2015 10: 38
    Great job. Even if it is a business project, PR, etc. as you say, then think about why not the citizenship of England, Germany, etc. This means this delicate calculation, involving them for the development of Russian sports. Plus anti-promotion of Western agitation. An excellent move by our authorities.
    1. dmb
      +1
      17 September 2015 13: 00
      And you do not suppose that in England, Germany, etc. they are simply not needed and interesting to anyone? And here another Udmurt or Chechen "master" will not only give you a fur coat from a master's shoulder, but will also give you an apartment. I would like to ask especially noisy "patriots" what is the name of the person who defended, defended the honor of his country, put his hand to her boobs to her anthem, and when more capable and young people came, he suddenly "kindled with love" for a completely different country. Personally, I (apparently due to improper education) have no decent words for such.
  23. 0
    17 September 2015 11: 07
    I'm sorry I'm not an athlete. also would apply for citizenship.
  24. -3
    17 September 2015 11: 13
    What's the catch? I personally do not understand why the famous / eminent citizens of Europe and America needed Russian citizenship. PR? In the third / fifth tribe Russian? Loves, respects Russia? All this is somehow sweet, in my opinion. I can't believe it. So Gerard Depardieu immediately said, if my memory serves me, that in France taxes are high, and so he dumped. But these actors / athletes from what come to us? If I know correctly, then with US law you won’t run away from taxes, they will find and put them in prison. So they should have another benefit, again, the American exchange program? Sports schools will open in Russia - well, we will take our children there - well. Where will the schools be? In Moscow, in St. Petersburg, and how many schools will open in Norilsk?
    1. 0
      17 September 2015 23: 35
      PR, not PR ... everything that goes to Russia’s favor is bad, right? In Norilsk, Kirov, schools will not open, yes. But there will be. No matter where. The main thing is in Russia! And imagine, Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov, representative of the Russian Boxing School Roy Jones :). Ahrenitelno!
  25. -4
    17 September 2015 11: 29
    I wonder if these comrades, having Russian citizenship, will begin to buy land ??? He obtained citizenship and bought his own land there, here and there ... Then he will need his brother, mother-in-law ... and they will probably have money for such a thing. Or maybe the homeland will help if it’s not enough for a couple of areas.
  26. +3
    17 September 2015 12: 02
    and why do not deprive citizenship of people like Gaidar, who pour mud on Russia and all Russian?
  27. +1
    17 September 2015 13: 10
    Yes, everything is clear, they don’t do it out of love for Russia, but they’re doing their business here (I recall the income tax 13%)
  28. +1
    17 September 2015 14: 21
    Quote: 35lisment35
    Yes, everything is clear, they don’t do it out of love for Russia, but they’re doing their business here (I recall the income tax 13%)

    So he will open his business with us, invest his money and pay taxes to us. For God's sake, let them come more, the country is big, everything will fit.
  29. +1
    17 September 2015 14: 57
    On the one hand, it’s good that famous people get our citizenship, before it was hard to imagine. But still, our government forgets about ordinary people, our compatriots living abroad, who wish to return and become citizens of our country. Only now it is much more difficult for them to obtain our citizenship than for any celebrities and those who have a thick wallet. Yes, of course, ordinary people receiving citizenship do not do such an advertising campaign as celebrities, do not PR Russia. They fulfill the most important thing - they increase the demographic situation in our country. In general, the following rules should be added to obtaining citizenship: 1. To repeal the law on dual citizenship, if you receive a Russian passport, you must refuse the passport of another country. 2. For robbing Russia, insulting our country and taking any action against Russia to deprive Russian citizenship. It is worth abolishing dual citizenship - and many of those who have it will decide to refuse a Russian passport. This way you can identify unreliable people and get rid of them. I am sure that the whole pro-Western liberal party, many of which have long had dual or even triple citizenship, will decide to leave. So the air without them will be cleaner.
  30. +1
    17 September 2015 23: 13
    Quote: Naiman
    I may be a little wrong, but pricking Motherland on her foot is not comme il faut. I'm jarring. Let there, wears a T-shirt. Such things are pricked on the chest! Under the heart. I don’t know, I didn’t like this action

    Probably, there was already the only free big place :). Apparently did not want to exchange for "little things".
  31. +1
    17 September 2015 23: 21
    These are people with a name and are recognizable all over the world and Russian citizenship is a delicious spit in the mug of an exceptional monkey
  32. +2
    18 September 2015 00: 56
    Normal people, they have been queuing up for citizenship for 5 years, and then some shit, they did it in 1 day, where is the justice? Let's give them 20 room apartments in Chechnya and choose them as governors. Forgive me, but the stars of the 90s do not give a shit about Russia and others, once they were popular, but now no one writes about them, and they are not needed by anyone, so why shouldn't they do it according to the principle of "bad PR, same PR". Do you disagree? Where does Gerard Depardieu live now? That's right, not in Rush, not in Chechnya, he escaped the taxes of France, just like everyone else.
    Be proud, be proud of our blacks and French, they have accepted our citizenship, actresses, and not a single scientist of world renown has accepted our citizenship, think again of patriots, what are you proud of.
    1. -1
      18 September 2015 08: 24
      What 5 years are you talking about? I was born in the USSR, by the will of "fate" at 90 I became a citizen of another state - Kazakhstan, decided to move to Russia, bought real estate, started working, in 4 months, in turn, received Russian citizenship. Maybe parasites and parasites get it 5 years. Many came from Ukraine as refugees (I know because of the specifics of the work), within six months who wanted to receive citizenship, who does not want to and stick around here and there.
      And if famous people come to receive citizenship, even at the sunset of a career, and they are not poor, and now they will pay taxes to our treasury, I do not mind at all ...
      1. 0
        3 December 2015 23: 15
        Probably because you are not Russian.
  33. -1
    18 September 2015 17: 52
    If foreigners, moreover with a name, go to us to P.M.Zh., then they set their country (---), and ours ++++ !! Let them go !!
  34. +1
    18 September 2015 17: 57
    What are you proud of? The fact that every shushary was accused of Russian citizenship, and to his compatriots hell was biting?
    But how many Russians cost to receive it.
    Shame !!!
  35. 0
    12 January 2016 19: 03
    I saw Monson at the Sochi railway station, he went to Krasnodar. Colorful man: October, rain dripping, all warmly dressed. And he stands on the platform in shorts and slippers, some jacket is slurred. I recognized him from the tattoo of a sickle and a hammer on his leg. He came over, said hello. I show my thumb, they say respect, Jeff. And he was not even surprised, he was smiling, he patted me on the shoulder. Then some guy led him to the carriage. In general, a very positive person.

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