The British Navy awaits the arrival of combat lasers to 2020.

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The British intend to use the experience of the US Navy, which has already tested lasers, and to create its own laser by 2020. weapon, the representative of the command of the Royal Navy, Admiral George Zambellas, said in London at the arms exhibition.

At the arms exhibition in London.

“Energy weapons do not require conventional ammunition. The price of a shot from it is many times lower, so it can be a profitable alternative to rocket systems, as well as it can simplify the circuit of the supply chain. Navy plans to install energy weapons on their ships by the end of the decade "", - quotes the admiral newspaper Look.

The British Defense Science and Technology Laboratory intends to achieve from the use of a laser not only “blinding” the equipment of enemy technology, but also the complete destruction of the target.

Help newspaper: "The International Exhibition of Armaments in London is held every two years, it is attended by representatives of more than 50 countries. It presents the latest rocket systems, firearms, as well as equipment to combat terrorism. "
  • Stephen Vermouth / Reuters
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  1. +5
    16 September 2015 15: 30
    Well, I don’t know how I can’t believe it! request
    1. +3
      16 September 2015 15: 37
      experienced ... like that .. while garbage .., and the woman in the photo (mat) .. once you can, of course ... wassat
      1. +1
        16 September 2015 16: 50
        Quote: MIKHAN
        experienced ... like that .. while garbage .., and the woman in the photo (mat) .. once you can, of course ...

        As for land equipment, yes. And for the Navy, we can go and shoot gulls am .
        And so yes ... once you can, of course ... wassat
        1. +1
          16 September 2015 18: 35
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          And for the Navy, we can go and shoot gulls

          Then my subordinate told how cormorants annoyed them in the barracks sad - not one shoe flew out the window what ... And the laser to them in balls - it will be handy Yes .
          1. +1
            16 September 2015 21: 59
            how interesting they are! The first argument of the laser: cheap price, do not need ammunition. And the fact that he does not destroy anything and does not go anywhere, well, somehow on the side.
      2. +2
        16 September 2015 19: 13
        "British Navy expects combat lasers to arrive by 2020"
        Something seems to me that we are "on ..... t". Oh, these British dreamers.
        1. +1
          16 September 2015 19: 50
          and the death star imperial walkers ......... and so on and so forth laughing
          1. +1
            17 September 2015 02: 15
            Forgot to add an invisible hat and boots-walkers.
    2. +6
      16 September 2015 15: 40
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      Well, I don’t know how I can’t believe it!

      And rightly so. The weak point of the laser, crossing out all its advantages - fog, rain, dust, smoke and other conditions of low visibility, in which the beam is elementarily scattered.
      1. -12
        16 September 2015 16: 11
        They invented it yourself, or did someone suggest it?
        1. 0
          16 September 2015 16: 23
          And what is wrong?
          1. -3
            16 September 2015 16: 53
            Something tells me that those who can count every dollar are the leaders in precision and heavy engineering, they already know better than those who live in VO whether to spend money on it or not. And if they spent so many years, so many attendants and are constantly developing the created laser weapons - then this is an occasion to say that this weapon is a danger ...

            Although where there is an Empire with its half-trillion budget, DARPHA and an excellent research sector before us. If the patriots in VO said that it was "der.mo", then it’s time for all Americans to wind up ...
            1. +1
              16 September 2015 17: 29
              it means Americans are counting on clear weather laughing
              1. 0
                16 September 2015 18: 36
                Quote: Dormidont2
                it means Americans are counting on clear weather

                on clear weather in space. Yes
                1. -2
                  16 September 2015 19: 55
                  They expect the dough to cut it!
                  And about the price of a shot, generally nonsense and a breeder.
            2. +1
              16 September 2015 17: 35
              Personally, I respect any sincere belief of a person, and Christianity, and that Canon is better than Nikon, and your faith, too.
              But you left the answer.
            3. 0
              16 September 2015 18: 45
              You've probably seen enough of Star Wars, like all the creators of SDI and laser weapons? The laser beam does not instantly penetrate the obstacle. Warm-up time required. and all this time the beam will have to be kept pointed at the target. to the same point. Dust, fog, or some airborne suspension is a real pegrade for the beam. even someone like a laser. And it seems to me that ceramic plates hung on the sides of enemy ships will become a real problem for hitting a ship with laser weapons. Yes, the beam will most likely pierce the ceramics, but that's the problem. He will warm up (melt) this karamik for a lot of seconds, this is enough for the enemy to discover where the attack is from and strike back with the good old kinetic weapon. That is, with an iron blank. and more .. to defeat the laser you need a direct aim. those. the enemy ship must be within sight. And on the other hand, to hit the ship with missile weapons, direct line of sight is not needed. The missiles will find the target over the horizon.

              And also ... what kind of laser weapons? Range finders on ships are also laser weapons.
            4. 0
              16 September 2015 21: 25
              Well, let's say I launch an expensive anti-ship missile, and not one, from a distance of miserable 150 kilometers. And what will LASER do to me? Will the sky highlight?
              If anything, the cons are not mine.
        2. +3
          16 September 2015 16: 26
          Famous "British scientists" laughing
        3. 0
          16 September 2015 21: 22
          The physics textbook looked, the section is optics!
    3. KAV
      +1
      16 September 2015 16: 07
      Again, nothing reinforced show-offs ...
      The cost of operation may be lower. But they are modestly silent about effectiveness.
      All these statements of theirs look the same as a nerd stretching his "bitsuhi" in Photoshop, forgetting to correct the distortions in the wallpaper drawing ...
    4. +2
      16 September 2015 16: 25
      Divorced Jedi in our galaxy! laughing
  2. +1
    16 September 2015 15: 32
    Just fighting, or farce and science fiction, especially complete annihilation, sounds like BEAR! ... It’s as if they are smart alone, and Russia sleeps peacefully on the stove and doesn’t itch ...
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    2. gjv
      +6
      16 September 2015 15: 51
      Quote: mig31
      and Russia sleeps comfortably on the stove and does not itch ...

      According to the well-known data, the first serial Il-76MD-90A No. 01-03 was transferred to TANTK for completion as a new A-100 AWACS aircraft at the Premier Design Bureau. As it was reported at one of the relevant forums, the second production aircraft (No. 01-04) was also transferred in April this year not to the Air Force, but to Taganrog to create an air-based laser complex on its basis for the development of the A-60 flying laboratory. As follows from the information published by TANTK on the procurement website, the new laser-armed aircraft will receive the name A-60SE [SE - probably from the name Sokol-Echelon].

      The goal of the Sokol-Echelon project is to create weapons to blind enemy reconnaissance satellites.
      1. 0
        16 September 2015 21: 30
        Here are just their goals dangling at heights of 30 kilometers and above! There atmospheric obstacles are minimal, and in the case of space - completely absent.
  3. +1
    16 September 2015 15: 33
    The British intend to use the experience of the US Navy, have already tested lasers, and create their own laser weapons by 2020 What kind of experience is this? Advertising? Well, good luck.
    1. +4
      16 September 2015 15: 45
      Not really. This laser has been mounted for about a year.
      back on an american warship carrying
      duty on the Persian Gulf.
      1. +2
        16 September 2015 15: 52
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Not really. This laser has been mounted for about a year.
        back on an american warship carrying
        duty on the Persian Gulf.

        A experience. Experience to show the bosses who can break through the money, how an almost non-moving target can be heated for several minutes and it will probably melt?
      2. +1
        16 September 2015 16: 13
        And what are the results of a year of service? Downed drones, wrecked ships, destroyed ground equipment or enemy infrastructure?
        1. +5
          16 September 2015 16: 22
          "And what are the results of the year of service?" ///

          The results are tests, exercises.

          The S-300 system also never shot down anyone in combat conditions,
          but I have no doubt that she can do this ...
          1. +1
            16 September 2015 17: 13
            Range of not more than 11km in clear weather. Really challenge?
          2. 0
            16 September 2015 18: 24
            And here the C300, I did not ask about it. Especially since the Yankees almost always test their expensive toys on others ...
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      3. 0
        16 September 2015 21: 32
        And it is designed to protect against small, high-speed boats full of explosives! That is, for point-blank shooting! Well, even against missiles on the way up, if you have time.
  4. 0
    16 September 2015 15: 36
    Laser Pointer Advertising Again! laughing
  5. FID
    +12
    16 September 2015 15: 38
    I already, sinfully, thought that they had lightsabers in mind ...
    1. +4
      16 September 2015 17: 52
      Quote: SSI
      I already, sinfully, thought that they had lightsabers in mind ...



      She ... In China, they will buy pointers.
  6. +2
    16 September 2015 15: 38
    Well, how do they want Russia to fall for this energy weapon again. Well, you shouldn't step on the same rake twice. In Moscow, "Astrophysics" stands on Tushinskaya Street, as a monument to these rakes. What, the laws of physics have changed in 30 years?
    1. +1
      16 September 2015 16: 34
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What, in 30 years the laws of physics have changed?

      Technology has changed a bit.
      1. 0
        16 September 2015 21: 36
        Well, tady is better to use a maser, burn it, it will not burn it, but the electronics may "burn".
  7. +4
    16 September 2015 15: 40
    Sounds like "British scientists say ..." In addition, the cost of a shot is not only the cost of the ammunition.
  8. +2
    16 September 2015 15: 40
    The USSR played these games by the end of the 80s. Verdict: expensive to manufacture, difficult to maintain, striking characteristics inferior to conventional kinetic weapons. They froze the topic. It seems that the USA is playing the game and the result is the same. The British wanted to. The Chinese will probably be the next.
  9. +2
    16 September 2015 15: 42
    intends to achieve from the use of the laser not only "blinding" the equipment of enemy equipment, but also the complete destruction of the target.

    Well, this is to our science fiction Alexei Tolstoy. His engineer Garin cut the ships with lazar.
    1. +1
      16 September 2015 15: 51
      Probably Garin managed to emigrate to seshea after all ...
    2. +4
      16 September 2015 15: 52
      Alexey Tolstoy is a genius (no kidding!). He described everything very accurately.

      They will not cut ship metal with a laser,
      but to disable them most of the important
      systems, including radars, rangefinders, antennas, sensors - easily.
      1. +1
        16 September 2015 15: 58
        Quote: voyaka uh

        The British Defense Science and Technology Laboratory intends to achieve from the use of a laser not only “blinding” the equipment of enemy technology, but also the complete destruction of the target. These are the dreams. hi
        1. 0
          16 September 2015 16: 16
          Power deployed on an american ship
          Laser - 30 kW. It is enough to destroy
          speed boat attacking a ship.
          (such tests were carried out with an unmanned boat).
          It turned out more reliable and cheaper than missiles or
          from quick-firing cannons.
          The laser plan to increase to 100 kW without significant
          design changes. Its design is modular.
          A ray is not one, but tens (or hundreds of rays) focusing
          simultaneously at a certain point.
          The energy of modern ships is enough to provide a laser
          electricity.
          1. +3
            16 September 2015 16: 28
            Power deployed on an american ship
            Laser - 30 kW.

            those. about a dozen welding machines?

            This is enough to destroy a speed boat attacking a ship.

            Yes, yes, enough. Only the boat should be soooooo-small
            1. 0
              16 September 2015 19: 18
              While they are trying to incapacitate the antenna with a laser, a serious, supersonic, cruise missile will arrive, with an armored warhead that even a small-caliber gun does not take, and the silhouette of this missile has a very small face. And the laser went down with the ship. When the West is weak, Israel will tearfully apologize to Russia for its dirty tricks against us.
          2. 0
            16 September 2015 16: 44
            Quote: voyaka uh
            A ray is not one, but tens (or hundreds of rays) focusing
            simultaneously at a certain point.

            A bit wrong, the rays add up with the help of splitters (as an example)
            A splitter is a passive optical equipment designed to divide or combine the power of optical signals. Splitters are characterized by a low level of insertion loss, wide bandwidth, stability characteristics, high reliability.

            Focusing is a little different.
          3. 0
            16 September 2015 16: 47
            With such a laser, asses should be warmed at a distance, in clear weather, from enemy mariners.
          4. 0
            16 September 2015 18: 32
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Power deployed on an american ship
            Laser - 30 kW.

            Lord, well, for example, a 30 kW laser will heat a bucket of water by as much as 7 degrees in a second. What kind of boats damn it? If only I could shoot a drone. laughing
            1. +1
              16 September 2015 19: 06
              No one canceled the wave-particle theory of light. The greater the distance, the more obstacles there are to light, even in clean, discharged air. It’s next to a bucket of 30 kW, and at a distance the beam will defocus, the spot will increase, and the power will drop.
              1. 0
                17 September 2015 11: 17
                Quote: Good AAAH
                the beam is defocused, the spot increases, the power drops.

                I apologize, but it will not defocus but will dissipate.

                A focus (from the Latin focus - “focus”) of an optical system is the point at which initially parallel rays intersect (“focus”) after passing through the collecting system (or where their extensions intersect if the system is scattering).
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          5. 0
            16 September 2015 19: 00
            I wonder which Id.ot will attack a battle cruiser on a boat?
            1. 0
              16 September 2015 21: 47
              Igilovtsy, easily!
            2. 0
              16 September 2015 21: 47
              Igilovtsy, easily!
            3. 0
              17 September 2015 11: 26
              Quote: mark2
              I wonder which Id.ot will attack a battle cruiser on a boat?

              The cruiser does not know, but there was such an episode with an Israeli destroyer.
              The Eilat itself was sunk during patrols along the coast of the Sinai Peninsula. He was attacked by Egyptian Komar missile boats by order of Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser. Boats fired four P-15 missiles that hit the target
          6. 0
            16 September 2015 21: 45
            What are we talking about! For point-blank shooting! As a protective means of the super-near zone ... it looks tempting, but at distances beyond the horizon and beyond, it is completely useless!
      2. +1
        16 September 2015 18: 26
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They will not cut ship metal with a laser,
        but to disable them most of the important
        systems, including radars, rangefinders, antennas, sensors - easily.

        Well what nonsense. Earth - it, SUDDENLY, round pancake. How far are you going to shoot at the ships with a laser? This is stupid air defense, and near-range air defense, and the air defense of which is under the B-O-O-O-BIG question. Do you know what is in the picture?
      3. 0
        16 September 2015 21: 41
        Yes, in our times, naval combat takes place at distances ... far beyond the horizon! Where did you see the curvature of the laser beam leaving the optical system of the laser gun? Okay, the atmosphere will make the beam slightly distort, but not by much!
  10. +2
    16 September 2015 15: 57
    British scientists ... laughing laughing laughing This is a meme!

    Blinding equipment and even personnel - yes. But there is an ambush. Under “Additional Protocol IV of the Convention on the Prohibition or Restriction of the Use of Specific Conventional Weapons Which May Be Considered to Be Excessive Damage or Have Indiscriminate Effects” (Vienna, October 1995), the use of laser weapons specifically designed for use in hostilities exclusively or including in order to cause permanent blindness to the organs of vision of a person who does not use optical devices.

    In space, it can be used to "destroy targets" - just let at least one normal launch vehicle be built first.

    But in atmospheric conditions - no.

    Cut, definitely. Or they have a different physics on the islands.
    1. +1
      16 September 2015 16: 01
      In their heads, the physics is different)))
    2. +1
      16 September 2015 16: 50
      Quote: Gormengast
      But in atmospheric conditions - no.

      In clear weather, it is quite possible to use it at relatively short distances, but I'm afraid they will quickly find resistance that will be much cheaper.
      1. FID
        +5
        16 September 2015 17: 15
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        which will be much cheaper.

        Smoke bombs ... Already used on tanks to protect against laser illumination ... On airplanes, the Americans tested ABOVE the clouds, where it is always light and clear, ground installations "work" only in clear weather ... Any haze and ....
  11. +1
    16 September 2015 16: 03
    After combat lasers, mankind will again start shooting from a bow
    1. 0
      16 September 2015 16: 14
      Quote: oberon 1
      After combat lasers, mankind will again start shooting from a bow

      This is exactly
  12. 0
    16 September 2015 16: 07
    Well, right now, the local laser lovers will begin to rage again wassat
  13. +2
    16 September 2015 16: 09
    Stormtrooper Syndrome Included!
  14. +1
    16 September 2015 16: 17

    “Energy weapons do not require conventional ammunition. The price of a shot from it is many times lower, so it can be a profitable alternative to missile systems, and can also simplify the supply chain.

    -Not a fact, especially when it comes to chemical lasers - the most suitable for combat use. According to some reports, the cost of one "shot" of the American YAL-1A laser complex, which was created in the early 2000s on a converted cargo Boeing-747-400F, reached $ 16 million. True, that laser was created to intercept launching ballistic missiles, and because of the too small practical range, the project failed.
    1. 0
      16 September 2015 17: 49
      Quote: non-jumping
      especially when it comes to chemical lasers
      What is this new beast? Until now, there are only gas and light refracting ones. What does it look like? But no, get and tell how to get hundreds of terrains in the limited space of the ship, this is unrealistic in modern conditions, or they have the technology of a nuclear-mobile station. It’s ridiculous to carry Beloyarka with you, well, either you printed a lot of money. laughing fool
      1. +1
        16 September 2015 18: 03
        Not new. A kind of gas laser "pumped" by means of chem. reactions.
      2. 0
        16 September 2015 18: 10
        This is not even a new beast. It is called chemical based on the type of energy production - special chemical fuel is burned in special modules - due to this, a powerful light flux is formed, which is then focused using optics. It is also called gas-dynamic. "To get good" about all sorts of "hundreds of terrovats" I will not. Go to school to learn more or less competently to write in Russian (unless, of course, they study it in your country, so many people hang around here under the flag of the USSR laughing ).
        1. 0
          16 September 2015 18: 17
          Quote: non-jumping
          This is not even a new beast. It is called chemical based on the type of energy production - special chemical fuel is burned in special modules - due to this, a powerful light flux is formed, which is then focused using optics. It is also called gas-dynamic. I will no longer "get good". Go to school to learn more or less competently to write in Russian (unless, of course, they study it in your country, so many people hang around here under the flag of the USSR).
          It may not be new, but how to get energy teratroats in a matchbox without harming employees?
          1. 0
            17 September 2015 00: 13
            I’m afraid to ask, why do you need terrow watts, and even in a "matchbox"? Build a Death Star? Or a time machine?
      3. 0
        16 September 2015 18: 43
        Quote: Armata
        What is this new beast?

        This "new beast" is at least 40 years old Yes, or even 50. I remember: in the magazine "Young Technician" (in the 70s, maybe in the 80s ...) there was an article on how to make a chemical laser with your own hands ...
        1. +1
          16 September 2015 18: 53
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          This "new beast" is already at least 40 years old, or even 50. I remember: in the magazine "Young Technician" (in the 70s, maybe in the 80s ...) there was an article on how to make a chemical laser do it yourself ...
          EEEE Coherent radiation of the required capacity seems to have been received only in the 2001 year. Prior to this, atomic and others like them chemical laser installations were just a toy. Until now, no more than 929 MKM have been reached with the help of the atomic lpzer. Everything else is a fairy tale.
          1. 0
            16 September 2015 20: 25
            Quote: Armata
            Everything else is a fairy tale.

            Well, it was not said there that the unit will work after assembly. request
            But the approximate scheme of a chemical laser was definitely in UT Yes.
            In addition: the principle of chemical action. At the lectures they explained to us the lecture year 81-82. Academician Taluts, I remember, told what ... Fizfak USU.
  15. 0
    16 September 2015 16: 32
    For fans of "Star Wars" article, there are more than one million of them around the world. Darth Vader with a large laser cannon off the coast of the banana republic, by his mere presence, makes you admire and tremble.

    1. 0
      16 September 2015 16: 38
      You underestimate my power!
  16. msm
    msm
    0
    16 September 2015 16: 34
    It is a desaechoing amers. The USSR was intimidated by SDI, we are intimidated with "laser weapons". They think that we are illiterate, we do not know physics. Probably judged by themselves. This, as they say now, is an ordinary fake. This is so that we spend money not on "Borei", "Armata" and "PAK FA", but on this rubbish!
  17. +1
    16 September 2015 16: 35
    Well, if British scientists invent this laser, then you can sleep peacefully after 2020.
  18. +1
    16 September 2015 17: 11
    And if a miracle comes, and a certain Russian emigrant genius will develop a real mega-laser for them, what are the methods of protection?

    1) Mirroring - rebound. Or a breaking and absorbing surface texture.
    2) "boomerang". Controllable flat mirror, for sending back.
    3) Aerosol curtain - not suitable for high-speed objects.
  19. 0
    16 September 2015 18: 27
    Fresh tradition, but hard to believe.
  20. +1
    16 September 2015 21: 30
    And by 2025 they promise to equip all their military with Jedi swords. good
  21. +1
    16 September 2015 22: 17
    By the year 2200, the British Navy is awaiting the arrival of secret pistols, code-named piston)))))

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