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Russian scientists have created powder from hemp and flax

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At the international exhibition RAE-2015 was presented the development of specialists of the Central Research Institute of Chemistry and Mechanics (TsNIIHM) - gunpowder, made from hemp and flax. New materials will solve the problem of import substitution, as now the Russian Federation has to buy foreign raw materials.




“Studies commissioned by the Ministry of Defense went 7 years. First we carried out research work, then development work on the possibility and feasibility of obtaining powders from flax. Traditionally, it has always been cotton, and only he. Before the collapse of the USSR, the country did not experience any problems, but then we lost Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and the United States bought cotton in large quantities and could sell raw materials at exorbitant prices. Now, to find an alternative to the supplied raw materials is a real need, ”quotes the deputy chief of the center of military supplies for special chemistry at TsNIIHM, Vladimir Nikishov. "Russian newspaper".

Work on the project was completed five years ago. During this time, scientists conducted a full cycle of tests - firing, operational, climate, accelerated. As a result, it was found that gunpowder from flax is not inferior, and in some characteristics surpasses foreign competitors. In particular, to achieve the initial velocity of the projectile, the mass of the powder charge must be reduced compared with the standard indicators.

"What does it mean? For each powder, there are table indicators of speed. To hit the target, you need to know at what speed the projectile takes off, for example, 900 meters per second. Flax powder has energy more than cotton. This is because his morphology is different, he absorbs glycerol nitrates and due to this it becomes more powerful. Because of this, during the tests we had to remove 5-8 percent mass from the charge in order to approach the desired speed. And this opened up two possibilities. The first is the reduction of mass to achieve the desired speed; this entails more economical transportation and storage of raw materials. The second - with the same mass, we can increase the firing range, ”said Nikishov.

Powder from hemp and flax also showed the best results in the variation of the initial velocity.

“If we take as a basis the tabular speed in 900 meters, then in a series of shots one projectile can fly out at a speed of 905 meters, and another - 895 meters. As a rule, the dispersion of regular powders is 3-5 meters. And if we are talking about flax powder, then the spread is just the 0,5 meter. To put it simply, when artillery fires flax shells with powder, the blow is more accurate. After all, the parameter of variation of initial speeds is closely related to the accuracy of shooting - the property weapons group the points of falling of shells on a certain limited area - an ellipse of dispersion The ellipse scatter decreases. It turns out that when using gunpowder from flax to hit the target, they will make 80 shots instead of 100. It means that it is necessary to bring less shells, they will hit the target faster and more accurately, the task is performed faster, it will also be easier to change the position, ”Nikishov said.

In addition, when using powder from hemp and flax smoked decreases.

To date, the institute experts have developed ballistic and pyroxylin powders from flax. The first is used for projectiles rocket engines, missile artillery and mortar charges. The second - for various small arms. Work on cannabis powder is still underway.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 15 September 2015 12: 09 New
    +3
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?
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      1. figwam
        figwam 15 September 2015 12: 17 New
        +14
        Russian scientists created hemp powder

        They will bite him!
        1. tth
          tth 15 September 2015 12: 53 New
          +76
          They will bite him!

          The main thing to smoke was not tried laughing
          1. Jackking
            Jackking 15 September 2015 13: 53 New
            +37
            And let it be - there may be fewer addicts laughing
            1. Alexey Boukin
              Alexey Boukin 15 September 2015 14: 34 New
              +21
              This is a paradox - before, hemp grew along almost every fence, the boys collected hemp seed for feeding birds, and there was no drug addiction. And now you can wait for the sowing of hemp fields with a fence along the perimeter and watchtowers.
              1. Darkmor
                Darkmor 15 September 2015 15: 47 New
                +75
                How much security will it take?

                Not at all.
                This is a paradox - before, hemp grew along almost every fence, the boys collected hemp seed for feeding birds, and there was no drug addiction.

                Many do not know, but for the very same drug cannabis need a very hot and dry climate.
                The main content of psychogenic substances in the resin of the flower, which is released to protect the plant from overheating. If the flower does not emit tar (i.e., it is not hot enough around), then all hemp is nothing more than ordinary grass.
                Simple hemp you can even smoke a bucket, you torknet, except from the effect of self-hypnosis.
                Therefore, the cultivation of industrial hemp in our latitudes is absolutely safe.
                I would even say that, thanks to a temperate climate, good, industrial hemp can grow here. If it blooms, it partially loses the strength of the fibers. Therefore, some of the best ship tackle in the world in the era of sailing ships was made from hemp.
                1. P. Yaroslav
                  P. Yaroslav 15 September 2015 16: 49 New
                  +16
                  Here are just the vast latitudes we have. When the Union in the Astrakhan region, hemp was grown (for the production of oil or hemp, I don’t know for sure), still wild fields in the floodplain come across, to the delight of drug addicts. So, if it is to be cultivated, the influence of the climate should be taken into account. If I understand you correctly, the ideal mid-band?
                  In general, for the Russian Union of Artists, an order similar from the “defense industry” is only for the good, I think.
                  1. zubkoff46
                    zubkoff46 15 September 2015 18: 33 New
                    +10
                    Until the beginning of the 60s in the Middle lane: Kurskaya, Voronezhskaya, Belgorodskaya, Lipetskaya, Tambovskaya ... - hemp grew in almost every garden of rural residents, the fiber of which was used by villagers to make homespun fabric for bags, paths, work shirts, etc. P. Then it was banned, and technical progress said its word, it became easier to buy ready-made.
                    1. crazyrom
                      crazyrom 16 September 2015 03: 28 New
                      0
                      That is what it turns out, there is a great flax with greater accuracy, and the whole mur stupidly uses bad powder from cotton?
                      1. Mahmut
                        Mahmut 16 September 2015 07: 21 New
                        +4
                        Putin's "plan" worked.
                      2. Chiropractor
                        Chiropractor 16 September 2015 09: 25 New
                        +3
                        well it listed the pros
                        There were no minuses, but, most likely, the main minus is the cost.
                      3. proletarian
                        proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 06 New
                        +3
                        As for the cost, I think it’s not worth worrying, the production technology is the same, except that more nitric acid is needed.
                        If we take into account the declared increase in power per unit mass, then it turns out even cheaper.
                      4. Asadullah
                        Asadullah 18 September 2015 11: 32 New
                        0
                        unless nitric acid is needed more.


                        It is not a matter of nitric acid, there is more of it, more output, it is a matter of the structure of cellulose. Here the issue of cleaning fibers from oils and mechanical fluffing. So the cheapest way to get pyroxylin gunpowder, to nitrate poplar fluff, but go collect it so much ..... in principle, you can bung and from logs, but it is very troublesome.
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 15 September 2015 17: 03 New
              +9
              Quote: Darkmor
              Many do not know, but for the very same drug cannabis need a very hot and dry climate.


              It seems that not only the heat, but also the ultraviolet plays a role. In Holland, where hash is allowed, they grow it, essno, in greenhouses - and put ultraviolet specifically.

              Quote: Darkmor
              Therefore, some of the best ship tackle in the world in the era of sailing ships was made from hemp.


              I will add: hemp is used on the ropes (which is made from female plants) - it was mainly exported, but the stems of male plants are also suitable for fabric, the name of which (fimble) even gave a well-known epithet - because it was in her that the whole peasant Russia dressed!
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            4. Rostislav
              Rostislav 15 September 2015 18: 23 New
              +6
              So then it is, but the police do not care about these subtleties. For the pair of remaining sprouts in the garden that I missed, a specific deadline can be obtained. So much easier than catching real hucksters selling "dope."
              1. PSih2097
                PSih2097 16 September 2015 12: 06 New
                +4
                Quote: Rostislav
                So then it is, but the police do not care about these subtleties.

                I wonder how the cops and drug control will be accused of undermining the country's defense ... laughing
            5. Starley from the south
              Starley from the south 15 September 2015 20: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Darkmor
              Therefore, the cultivation of industrial hemp in our latitudes is absolutely safe.

              I don’t know how in your latitudes, but in ours (Krasnodar Territory) it is very possible to grow it, even though there is a zone of risky hemp breeding here. But it can insert. Sometimes drug police catch us who grow hemp.
            6. Viktor123
              Viktor123 18 September 2015 09: 23 New
              0
              So we were grown here. As far as I know - in the Astrakhan and Voronezh regions. Hemp seed was also used in the food industry. as well as poppy seeds.
          2. bastard
            bastard 16 September 2015 11: 44 New
            +13
            Quote: alexey bukin
            This is a paradox - before, hemp grew along almost every fence, the boys collected hemp seed for feeding birds, and there was no drug addiction. And now you can wait for the sowing of hemp fields with a fence along the perimeter and watchtowers.

            My grandmother, all my life, as far as I remember, planted poppy for baking in the front garden before the veranda, no one ever attempted. And in perestroika, all the media began vying to talk about drug addicts, prostitutes, bandits, and pederasts, thereby advertising these antisocial phenomena (it’s natural for a primate to imitate), now this continues with no less zeal, and OBZ was introduced to the high school course, where children give initial concepts about this rubbish. After all, this is worse than annoying advertising! In a child, the brain does not ripen immediately and there is no need for it to give information ahead of time to the perception of which it is not ready either physically or physiologically. I believe that the current media and education system purposefully disfigure our children’s consciousness in terms of world perception. You can laugh and disagree with me, but to us this quarter-century lawlessness and the mess still comes around. (already whispers) IMHO. hi
      2. Koshak
        Koshak 15 September 2015 22: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: tth
        The main thing to smoke was not tried laughing

        Damn smoking? When fired, I breathed in powder gases - and put in.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 16 September 2015 09: 52 New
          +1
          Russian scientists have created powder from hemp and flax
          Tremble Holland !!! smile
        2. proletarian
          proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 09 New
          +7
          Especially "inserts" if the "head" to bring to the barrel at the time of the shot, completely blows.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 16 September 2015 22: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: tth
        The main thing to smoke was not tried

        So I think, from the action of powder gases, say the same tankers do not burst from laughter then? And then on the same tank biathlon everyone will just breakwink
    2. olegnmnk
      olegnmnk 15 September 2015 12: 57 New
      +6
      they will matzo, saying: - "so here you are, gunpowder."
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 September 2015 15: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: figvam
      They will bite him!

      Gunpowder burns well, because ..... winked Mix with tobacco and smoke for joy wassat
    4. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 15 September 2015 17: 05 New
      +41
      The expression "you have not snuffed gunpowder" will take on a new meaning. wink
      1. goose
        goose 16 September 2015 14: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Nikolai K
        The expression "you have not snuffed gunpowder" will take on a new meaning

        there’s a gunpowder tea. now there will be such a cannabis variety
    5. rn6lle
      rn6lle 15 September 2015 20: 42 New
      +1
      Not everyone after the shot will be smoke cloudy and sniff the barrel! and there are many who want to clean the barrel !!!
    6. Lenin
      Lenin 16 September 2015 22: 17 New
      0
      No, they will not bite. will actively inhale the flue gases after each shot ... laughing
  2. Baikonur
    Baikonur 15 September 2015 12: 23 New
    +24
    the dispersion of regular gunpowders is 3-5 meters. And if we are preparing about gunpowder from flax, then the spread is only 0,5 meters
    And that is good too.
    With such indicators, it is simply necessary to patent and begin to conquer the world market of gunpowder, or even cunning dofig, you can click through this niche!
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 15 September 2015 12: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Baikonur
      start conquering the world market for gunpowder,

      No time, cotton Colorado! The brave proto-Ukrainians have already carried out all the measures to monopolize the world reserves of hemp gunpowder!
      Somehow my comp is stupid, but there is a URL link to the video in YouTube, still spring, you can enjoy the help:
      https://youtu.be/7uiulyVhS3c
      1. proletarian
        proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 12 New
        0
        That vi sho, the identity of gunpowder is not the same system of the stink of tilka eviscerated that supremely happy, I’ll burn drig pidkidayut !!!
  3. Arh
    Arh 15 September 2015 12: 24 New
    +18
    Hemp is a universal plant made of it: nautical ropes, clothes, in the old oil kozinaki !!! What remains to be done? for example some kind of medicinal tinctures!?!
    1. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 15 September 2015 12: 43 New
      +7
      .... What remains to be done? for example, some kind of medicinal tinctures!?! ...

      .... Yes, yes !!! .... A lot of tincture !!!!! laughing ..... But seriously, then there is almost NO flax sowing in the RF !!!! .... It’s only BATSKA in Belarus not only didn’t cut the crops after the collapse of the USSR, but also increased production ..... Flax is environmentally healthy and strong fabrics .... And not only .... From what gunpowder are going to be made ????? .... lol
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 15 September 2015 13: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        But seriously, there are almost no flax crops in the Russian Federation !!!!

        ... not to write standing!;)
        In the days of the cult of personality - they were, including cannabis, millions and millions of hectares. You may just need a real effective manager in the person of the new Lavrenty Pavlovich.
        And all the guys!
        Hands reap and hammer, who is the 5-th column and oval in the ranks!
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 15 September 2015 14: 37 New
        +6
        But seriously, there are almost no flax crops in the Russian Federation !!!
        Here is a link to the official data from the official website of the Ministry of Agriculture, including the sown area of ​​flax for 2011-2013. hi

        http://www.mcx.ru/documents/document/v7_show/26465..htm
        1. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 15 September 2015 15: 19 New
          0
          .... Here is a link to the official data from the official website of the Ministry of Agriculture, ...

          .... These storytellers have not yet laid out .... The fact on the face .... No (almost none, except for the Belarusian) in the sale of linen and tanya from flax .... In the Soviet Union there was in every hardware store. ... And this suggests that there is no flax .... Like that gopher: ".... you see him ??? ... No !!!! .... But he is !!!! ".... Just the opposite .... hi
        2. Rostislav
          Rostislav 15 September 2015 18: 26 New
          +1
          As they said in the USSR: "There is a lie, there is a blatant lie and there are statistics"
        3. uragan114
          uragan114 15 September 2015 20: 59 New
          +1
          North of the Yaroslavl region. In due time, studying at school (about 25 years ago) went to clean linen. Now it is not planted. At all.
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      4. Starominchanin
        Starominchanin 15 September 2015 14: 42 New
        +7
        that on ... in the Kuban in recent years, the number of areas under flax has increased many times. Especially in the Timashevsky, Brukhovtsy, Seversky districts. not casual
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 15 September 2015 19: 03 New
          0
          Starominchanin "Well, on ... in the Kuban in recent years, the number of areas under flax has increased many times. Especially in the Timashevsky, Bryukhivtsi, Seversky districts. It’s not casual."
          Hmm ... didn't know. I thought flax was only growing in the north of the European part of Russia. Type: In Vologda, Ivanovo, Kostroma, Mari El, Kirov, etc.
          I know for sure that flax does not grow everywhere. Not everywhere he feels good.
      5. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 15 September 2015 17: 07 New
        +7
        Flax is a wonderful culture for the non-chernozem zone of Russia. You look and restore domestic production for reasons of national security.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 15 September 2015 13: 26 New
      +6
      Arh "Hemp is a universal plant made from it: sea ropes, clothes, old goat oil !!! What remains to be done? For example, some medicinal tinctures!?!"
      And flax? This is also a wonderful plant.))) Drying oil, for example, is made from it. Clothing including for firefighters and welders. Bio supplements. Very good news. May our northern villages come to life. Flax is distributed throughout the north of Russia. And nowhere else in my opinion. And then chemistry displaced demand for flax, maybe it will become in demand again.
      1. Michael_59
        Michael_59 15 September 2015 16: 46 New
        +6
        Quote: Nagaibak
        And then chemistry displaced demand for flax,


        I bought three linen dresses for my wife.
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 16 September 2015 09: 20 New
        0
        Drying oil and from sunflower seeds is produced.
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 18 September 2015 09: 38 New
          0
          Quote: Black Colonel
          Drying oil and from sunflower seeds is produced.

          Drying oils (oil-containing film-forming substances) are made from VARIOUS types of vegetable oils.

          For Russia and Ukraine, yes, the main raw material is sunflower, but there are production of hemp and flaxseed oils and drying oil.

          Although now, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a NATURAL OLYF. More and more, manufacturers are switching to the production of SYNTHETIC ...
    3. The stranger
      The stranger 15 September 2015 18: 14 New
      +2
      All sorts of plastics that are now made from oil (where Dupont’s money comes from), and from them - cups, bottles, bags, can’t be counted. And which decay quickly, and do not remain to fly around the world and oceans forever.
  4. zao74
    zao74 15 September 2015 12: 44 New
    0
    Good property ... bully
    But sad ... sad
    1. 341712
      341712 15 September 2015 13: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: zao74
      zao74 (1) Today, 12: 44 ↑ New
      Good property ... bullyBut sad ...


      It depends on how you apply)))) If right, then it’s very fun)))) Kazakhs know for sure)))
  5. vladimir_krm
    vladimir_krm 15 September 2015 21: 06 New
    0
    And he sticks better! :)
  6. Coconut
    Coconut 16 September 2015 09: 59 New
    0
    and what ... an interesting idea shot barked sniffed kaifanul wink and most importantly! the army is always in a good mood and the enemy has shock and not understanding the type of cheat they laugh at the very height of the battle laughing
  • nebalagur
    nebalagur 15 September 2015 12: 14 New
    +31
    What else is this for? Well this is not Hindu, but bespontovka, incl. security is useless.
    But the fact that gunpowder will be with greater energy and accuracy is gut!
    PS: Still, they used to muddle the nettle, it is generally like dirt ...
    1. insafufa
      insafufa 15 September 2015 12: 21 New
      +9
      Before the revolution, Russia was the world leader in the cultivation of flax.
      So it's good good
      Well done, here we will develop our agriculture
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      2. proletarian
        proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 24 New
        0
        From a cow parsnip, it’s better to make combat units, the enemy will “break” his head from which it will be mass personnel in a “hospital” with eczema, burns, scabies and other “cookies”.
    3. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 15 September 2015 13: 59 New
      0
      .... PS: Still, they used to muddle the nettle, it is generally like dirt ...


      .... You would have suggested from cow cakes !!!! ..... Also a lot .... And most importantly, almost continuously !!!! laughing
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 15 September 2015 17: 01 New
        0
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        You would have suggested from cow cakes !!!! ..... Also a lot .... And most importantly, almost continuously !!!!

        laughing Duc is already being made - they interfere with saltpeter and sawdust - well, there is lumintium powder and there will be a big drum)))
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 16 September 2015 09: 58 New
          0
          Hmm ... why manure here? The specified ingredients even very well boom. Or is it to reduce power?
          1. proletarian
            proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 36 New
            0
            Manure replaces coal, and sawdust “facilitates” detonation.
        2. proletarian
          proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 35 New
          0
          Wow, how much I watch people like pyrotechnics, do not forget the main thing: Safety above all (allows you to keep the limbs, skin and eyes intact, I am silent about brains because hobby for pyrotechnics implies their presence).
          And about the fact that gunpowder and explosives can be made of “shit”, it’s true, and what is known for a long time, the only problem in industrial production is chemical uniformity. composition (after all, for the industrial production of “crap” it will take some volumes), so not everything that is suitable for “handicraft” is suitable for industry.
    4. Ledorub
      Ledorub 15 September 2015 16: 37 New
      +2
      But it would be nice to learn how to make gunpowder out of the Sosnovsky warrader. At the same time, the country would be cleaned.
      Or from poplar fluff. It would be good too.
      Only do not touch the mushrooms.
    5. demo
      demo 15 September 2015 16: 53 New
      +2
      Let's continue the list.
      Ambrosia, wheat grass .....

      Even an article on hemp begins to act so magically on people.
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    6. proletarian
      proletarian 16 September 2015 21: 21 New
      0
      Yes, even from Tyrsa, the main thing is to achieve a very thin fibers (nitration occurs faster and more evenly).
  • nikcris
    nikcris 15 September 2015 12: 15 New
    +18
    They were always before Khrushchev in Russia. Russia produced up to 60% of hemp fiber from the world. For many centuries, this has been one of the most important articles of Russian exports. Hemp, if what. You can still ban glue, gasoline and a lot of what else. Manganese was banned.
    1. Vyatich
      Vyatich 15 September 2015 12: 40 New
      +43
      There was even the title of "Master of hemp breeding"!
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 15 September 2015 14: 02 New
        0
        ..... Even there was the title "Master of hemp breeding"! ...

        .... Wow, you-s-s-s !!!!! .... I want this !!!! fellow ..... Change to the Soviet "rhombus" !!!!! .... laughing
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  • brasist
    brasist 15 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +5
    But as they shoot, all the opponents will give up (they’re not smoking dill). wassat
  • Scoun
    Scoun 15 September 2015 12: 19 New
    +22
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Yuriy Gostev, a farmer from Elabuga, raised an unexpected topic on his blog, about which BUSINESS Online recently spoke. According to him, the well-known hemp plant, which has long been banned, in pre-revolutionary Russia it was practically the same as oil now. One hundred years ago, hemp hemp export earnings ranked second in the treasury of the Russian Empire. The number of items of hemp reaches 6 thousand! These are paper, jeans, wood-fiber boards, wood spirit, methane, ethanol, gasoline ... Even the dollar valued by our oligarchs and the middle class is made from hemp. You can cook delicious porridge from it and make excellent environmentally friendly oil. Farmer calls for more active use of hemp in agriculture, Fortunately, the non-cannabis varieties of this plant permitted by the State Drug Control have already appeared.

    In general, this is a very useful plant that some people have ruined.
    1. yegor_k
      yegor_k 16 September 2015 09: 59 New
      +2
      No one bothered him. There is such a company, DuPont, which at one time was engaged in paper bleaches, it then lobbied for the inclusion of hemp in the list of banned plants, because Hemp paper is immediately white and you do not need to bleach it.
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  • i80186
    i80186 15 September 2015 12: 25 New
    +5
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Yes, hemp varieties, practically free of THC, have been bred for a very long time. Do you know what burlap is? At one time they planted everywhere, and everything was fine.
    That's how much alcohol is needed for this, yes. No wonder the alcohol went up, I knew that. New gunpowder. laughing
  • bocsman
    bocsman 15 September 2015 12: 29 New
    +4
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Once upon a time, in Russia cannabis varieties with a low content of alkoloids were used. So go by!
  • roadsmell
    roadsmell 15 September 2015 12: 38 New
    +3
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Not much.

    Many varieties have already been bred for industrial production that do not contain narcotic substances.

    Only with regard to gunpowder from flax and hemp - this, in the process, will have to be technologically reorganized throughout the production.

    And cotton, as they were transported from Uzbekistan, will continue to mess around for a long time.

    Look, our transport, as it doesn’t come to unloading at Aleksin with cotton, 3-6 cars stand in line in front of the plant.

    And the price tag for transporting 20 tons of cotton is not kosher at all, $ 2-3 kilos.
  • Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 15 September 2015 12: 43 New
    +1
    There are such varieties! Ukrainian development.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 15 September 2015 12: 50 New
    +5
    Industrial hemp, the one that goes to oil (technical), and hemp, is absolutely useless for nariks.
    In general, I will be glad if nariks start smoking gunpowder, the nation will be healthy good
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 15 September 2015 13: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Kanibas happens without opioids ...;)
    For gunpowder - he is not needed ...
    1. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 16 September 2015 12: 10 New
      +1
      With opioids, sorry, there is only poppy. Cannabis is in hemp. In all varieties it is in flowers and especially pollen. But, for the production of technical hemp, you need to remove hemp of a certain height and mow the buds mechanically, otherwise it will "go into color" and technical properties and even the amount of hemp will drop sharply. Then - to guard as military facilities. Then - some grass (almost bespontovy) will get to the jerks. This is a disaster for the European producers of spice and "salts" from which so many people are now dying. And spice is just synthetic cannabinol. And in a year, interest, even among shkolota, will fade. Moreover, unlike opiates, cannabinol is practically not a drug by drug and does not cause dependence. And the producers of European synthetics and Afghan ger can shoot themselves. And there, addiction will disappear an-masses.
      Then - why only hemp. The oldest nitrocellulose explosives are from papyrus. It’s just that ammonia in Egypt was native wh, ACBI was known and used in the New Kingdom, but in order to explode ammonium nitrate, an intermediate detonator is needed.
      In reeds, cellulose is cleaner than in papyrus. For a year from a hectare you can collect megatons, such is his growth. And you can’t smoke reeds. Still cheaper than flax. Summer pants are good, linen shirts, that's it. He is in short supply for textiles. Especially for thin flax varieties only Kuban is suitable. For coarser fiber - Belarus and the middle lane. But linen and reed cords will be much better than hemp. Hemp is added precisely because of the price.
      The Uzbek cotton is still here. Transportation of “cotton wool” is expensive, as you don’t press it.
      In general, there are no critical problems with cellulose fiber for nitration and never have been. Accustomed just to pour cotton wool with nitrogen - no more.
  • morozik
    morozik 15 September 2015 13: 36 New
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    hemp has long been bred, in which fic yes brooms of cannabioids
  • datur
    datur 15 September 2015 13: 45 New
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    hemp-hemp strife !!!! wink
  • Nikolay K
    Nikolay K 15 September 2015 17: 03 New
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    Hemp varieties that contain a minimum of narcotic substances have long been bred. Just like eating poppy varieties
  • Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 15 September 2015 18: 12 New
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    Quote: oleg-gr
    Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    These varieties have been around for a long time, and the question was raised about 2-3 years ago about whether linen would be better than cotton.
    1. family tree
      family tree 15 September 2015 19: 41 New
      +1
      Work on gunpowder from hemp is still underway.
      And no one wondered why they had already made it from flax quickly, but they’re still underway over hemp wassat
  • War and Peace
    War and Peace 15 September 2015 19: 37 New
    +2
    HEMP IN RUSSIA-HISTORICAL SUMMARY

    For a long time, hemp was one of the main agricultural crops of the Russian Empire, and later the USSR. At the end of the 140th century, hemp cultivation was one of the main earnings of the peasants of the Oryol, Kaluga, Kursk, Chernihiv, Mogilev and partly Minsk provinces. According to the Encyclopedia of Brockhaus and Efron, about 40 thousand tons of hemp were produced in the European part of Russia at the end of the 1934th century, which amounted to about 35% of hemp production in Europe. According to TSB, hemp hemp fiber production in the USSR reached in 44,9-1934. - 6,3 thousand tons; hemp oil production (from seeds) in the USSR in 1936 amounted to 680 thousand tons. Hemp crops in the USSR in 4 occupied 5 thousand hectares, accounting for XNUMX/XNUMX of the total world area for hemp.

    It is not for nothing that the creators of the Friendship of Peoples fountain at VDNH, the country's main fountain built in 1954, placed hemp leaves with ears of wheat and sunflower inflorescences in the center of a sheaf of gold glittering with gold.
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  • sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 15 September 2015 19: 56 New
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    Even under the Union, a variety with a low content of narcotic substances was bred.
    1. War and Peace
      War and Peace 15 September 2015 20: 50 New
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      sharp-lad RU Today, 19:56 ↑

      Even with the Union, a variety with a low content of narcotic substances was bred


      For centuries, the Russian Empire has been producing hemp WITHOUT ANY CONTENT OF DRUG SUBSTANCES ...
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  • volgroo
    volgroo 15 September 2015 20: 22 New
    +1
    Cannabis variety without drugs has long been bred. There was a film on this subject.
  • Vadim_2
    Vadim_2 15 September 2015 22: 29 New
    +1
    In the USSR there were giant hemp plantations - for oil and fabrics.
  • oracul
    oracul 16 September 2015 08: 09 New
    +1
    No need to jerk! Since ancient times, flax and hemp have been used in Russia to obtain fibers. The fact that hemp is now being used as a narcotic is the result of focused work to build Western civilization and reduce the excess population of the Third World.
  • shershen
    shershen 16 September 2015 08: 37 New
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    Hemp is five! ))) Is this done specifically to increase the number of recruits?
    Now the word "shooting range" will take on a new meaning.
    The main thing is to strengthen the protection of "powder" warehouses. )))
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 16 September 2015 10: 07 New
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    In Russia, there are practically no places where "wild" hemp grows in the wild. So it’s useless to make fun.
    And it’s useful to know that from hemp you can make just a monstrous amount of necessary and environmentally friendly products. What our ancestors did for many millennia.
    And if our government revives hemp industry, all other countries will smoke bamboo aside! Since we have millions of megatons of this free raw material!
    The tobacco industry also needs to be fully restored! Just a huge amount of money goes to Yankerstan for this hay, straw and cut paper moistened with flavors, which are being smoked today under the guise of cigarettes.
  • siberalt
    siberalt 16 September 2015 13: 56 New
    +1
    We won’t have any problems with hemp. Hemp was always held in high esteem. Once upon a time, the entire English fleet had rigging from Russian flax and hemp. Or, besides gunpowder, hemp oil will prevent us?
    1. Basarev
      Basarev 17 September 2015 13: 54 New
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      Why do we need this linen for gunpowder? Isn't it better to use explosives as is, without any contaminants?
  • MAD_SERGANT
    MAD_SERGANT 18 September 2015 13: 14 New
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    in the beginning yes, BUT given that hemp will be ordinary, with minimal amounts of canapioids, then interest in it will disappear instantly
  • Scraptor
    Scraptor 29 September 2015 19: 08 New
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    Only one cannabis variety is narcotic (Indian, and it is very different from all others in appearance). With hemp, the brain is simply composted for everyone, because almost everything expensive medications are simply its extract repeat smile
    This easily accessible folk drug investigation has always been used in Russia and in other countries, not only for sewing rough clothes and weaving ropes. Nobody smoked it and didn’t bastard with it ... As with Ivan Chai ...
  • Ratmir
    Ratmir 15 September 2015 12: 10 New
    +9
    There is life in the old dog yet!!! and berries in the buttocks ...)))
    Thanks to our bright heads.
  • sever.56
    sever.56 15 September 2015 12: 11 New
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    Much earlier than Russian scientists in Ukraine created "gunpowder" from hemp and vodka!
    But seriously, then - our scientists are well done! It is impossible to depend on other states, even if friendly in such a strategically important area, but it may be cheaper to make gunpowder from its raw materials.
  • roskot
    roskot 15 September 2015 12: 11 New
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    From hemp? Interesting. And they will smoke in Central Asia.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 15 September 2015 12: 28 New
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      Quote: roskot
      From hemp? Interesting. And they will smoke in Central Asia.


      cotton
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  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 September 2015 12: 11 New
    +11
    Flax, in Russia, has always been in first place after bread.
    1. NOMADE
      NOMADE 15 September 2015 12: 21 New
      +2
      + also, do not forget about linseed oil and fabrics))
      Hemp is an "industrial grade", so there will be no need to protect)))
      and the news is really great taking into account the improvement of the properties of "gunpowder"!
      Interested in only the cost ... All the same, cotton is put on a large stream, unlike flax and especially hemp ..
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 15 September 2015 13: 08 New
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        . All the same, cotton is put on a large stream, unlike flax and especially hemp ..


        Just to our farmers, in connection with import substitution and charge the fields with flax. And technical hemp is growing somewhere, maybe not in such volumes, but there is.
    2. Manul
      Manul 15 September 2015 12: 24 New
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      Quote: aszzz888
      Flax, in Russia, has always been in first place after bread.

      Only with this industry we are not so hot now. Not so long ago, a relevant article was on this subject, "Who sows flax - reaps gold" - I advise everyone to read.
      http://politobzor.net/show-51759-seyuschiy-len-pozhnet-zoloto.html
      I really want to join the jokes about hemp. But not to laugh.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 15 September 2015 13: 04 New
        +1
        "Who sows flax - reaps gold"


        Truly golden words.
        Thanks for the footnote, be sure to read. soldier
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 15 September 2015 12: 13 New
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    Flax is well trajectory creeps lower, and hemp strains. Single from hemp to import to the Netherlands will go. laughing But seriously, it’s good that they found a replacement for cotton. Linen is also good.
  • Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 15 September 2015 12: 13 New
    +7
    from hemp grish ..... mmmmmm. Why, then ... and we have it in bulk :) ... and hemp shirts are the best in their properties ...
    in general, we are waiting for the legalization ... of a product of strategic importance
  • katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 15 September 2015 12: 13 New
    +1
    I saw a similar one in the video, dill added hemp to gunpowder, in a truly artisanal way, now they will raise a cry, stole the know-how, although the article shows a lot of work has been done in this direction. Information about developing a new type of ammunition went through, maybe new gunpowder is being developed just for them .
  • made13
    made13 15 September 2015 12: 14 New
    +1
    We will solve the problem of import substitution, there will be problems with the protection of the fields laughing
  • BOB48
    BOB48 15 September 2015 12: 14 New
    +2
    flax and hemp - our everything!
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  • serg1970
    serg1970 15 September 2015 12: 14 New
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    Cannabis has various varieties and narcotic substances it accumulates in different climatic conditions in different ways. So why not?
  • LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 15 September 2015 12: 14 New
    +12
    caught with a box, and you are such an op hunting ticket. I need type for gunpowder, I’ll go to the platypus on weekends.
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 15 September 2015 12: 31 New
      +2
      It seems like making explosives in - in our country for no less than dope
  • Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 15 September 2015 12: 15 New
    +1
    If Pindos-si bought all the cotton fields in Middle Asia, then we need to hurry up and buy the fields in Afghanistan ..! With one blow - 2's hack: we’ll have time with hemp and we will extinguish the conflict ...
    1. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 15 September 2015 12: 17 New
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      Quote: Tra-ta-ta
      If Pindos-si bought all the cotton fields in Middle Asia, then we need to hurry up and buy the fields in Afghanistan ..! With one blow - 2's hack: we’ll have time with hemp and we will extinguish the conflict ...

      we extinguish ... we extinguish ... and then we all sit together and set fire ..)))
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  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 September 2015 12: 16 New
    +3
    Commercial break ..muzhiki! wassat
  • wow
    wow 15 September 2015 12: 16 New
    +1
    Nariks will go on strike! And if they still create bullets and shells from the poppy, then in general - be baptized and tick ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 15 September 2015 15: 50 New
      +1
      But they don’t do anything out of fly agarics. The forest is full ...
      Previously, before the distilleries appeared, people had fun with tinctures of mushrooms.
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  • sereginaleks
    sereginaleks 15 September 2015 12: 18 New
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    After all, we can! And flax is originally ours. From time immemorial they traded.
  • Mad dok
    Mad dok 15 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    Flax, in Russia, has always been in first place after bread.

    Do not forget about INDUSTRIAL hemp. At one time, Russia was a leader in the export of hemp. Anyway, that only did not make of it ...
  • SVD
    SVD 15 September 2015 12: 19 New
    +1
    Well done! It's always nice to read such news! To make it better and from their raw materials, it is necessary to refine and faster into mass production. But do not forget about linen fabrics - in Russia they were always No. 1.
  • Down House
    Down House 15 September 2015 12: 19 New
    -5
    Under Stalin, they gave 100 front-line soldiers before the attack, now there will be ammunition that raises the spirit and mood of the Russian Soldiers.
  • FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 15 September 2015 12: 22 New
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    Here is the beginning of a scientific article about this. We had to look for a replacement for cotton (the source of cellulose) for a long time, the defense industry consumes gunpowder in huge quantities. Still to improve production technologies. By the way, someone Khaim Weizman, who had recently emigrated to England from the village of Motol (near Pinsk in Belarus), had invented in his time to use horse chestnuts to produce smokeless powder in England. It is for this, according to some researchers, that he became the president of Israel (http://him.1september.ru/article.php?ID=200700102).
  • Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 15 September 2015 12: 22 New
    +3
    And glory to our designers and scientists.
    Let creative Uzbeks and Tajiks continue to drive cotton overseas. What open spaces are idle in our country ?? !! Not processed, not cultivated. And here is three-in-one: defense is in the black, agriculture is in the black, the people in the village-village work, mechanical engineering will rise again - you need to collect something on an industrial scale, not manually))
    And ballistics is a great thing. I went nuts when I found out that 20-3% of hits were considered excellent on warships at the beginning of the 5th century .. For snipers, for example, accuracy is in the first place ...
  • engineer74
    engineer74 15 September 2015 12: 22 New
    +1
    And where are the liquid propellants ???
    PS. Now at least there will be no problems with the disposal of drugs! And when will they invent the heroin powder?
    1. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 15 September 2015 12: 34 New
      +2
      Firearms using liquid explosives as a propellant were developed, including in the USSR (http://topwar.ru/38534-kak-vydumali-zhidkiy-poroh-ili-pulemet-na-kerosine.html)


      read. As for unitary cartridges, there are certain requirements for storage and operation. Fluid and through any connection will penetrate due to the capillary effect, which will entail a threat to the safety of the storage location, arrow, wear of the weapon, difficulties in maintenance, etc., since as a rule these mixtures contain strong oxidizing agents.
  • Shurale
    Shurale 15 September 2015 12: 27 New
    +2
    I’m only interested in one question, they’ll tell us what high-ranking officials decided to close the production of gunpowder inside Russia and start buying it abroad ??? I really want to know the name ....
    1. sa-zz
      sa-zz 15 September 2015 12: 37 New
      +1
      Before the collapse of the USSR, the country had no problems, but then we lost Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, and the United States bought bulk cotton, and can sell raw materials at exorbitant prices. Now it’s a real need to find an alternative to the supplied raw materials, ”


      Something like this. And his name is Gorbachev (a).
    2. North
      North 15 September 2015 12: 49 New
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      U.S. Shurale what can I say to this, probably those who dictated the constitution.
  • Barakuda
    Barakuda 15 September 2015 12: 28 New
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    WHO has abandoned the article? scientific nonsense. am I did it all at school at the chemist, loading a self-propelled gun, they pulled my owls at a big break.
  • KBR109
    KBR109 15 September 2015 12: 30 New
    +3
    This is a major breakthrough and draws on the State. Award. Our scientists - with great SUCCESS. good
  • a-cola
    a-cola 15 September 2015 12: 31 New
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    The fact that all comments will be built on certain properties of hemp is not even surprising. As for me, if you understand the topic, then you are a drug addict, if this is a joke, then Petrosyan. Both are of little honor. Anyway. I was unpleasantly surprised by the fact that even the production of gunpowder, gunpowder! (You can add Karl!), And even that turns out to depend on the Americans! Where did you look before? I wonder how we had not yet guessed the shells and missiles in the United States for storage to put in the load to the gold reserve.
  • Bosk
    Bosk 15 September 2015 12: 33 New
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    Is hemp interesting some kind of technical (I don’t remember what it’s called without foolishness) or "bad"?
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 15 September 2015 12: 36 New
    +2
    Good article, well done author. Concise, informative, popular and interesting. Thank.

    PS: Sorry not signed. Literate comrades know interesting.
  • fif21
    fif21 15 September 2015 12: 42 New
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    Maybe someone knows the prices of flax and cotton in world markets? Work "Mendeleev" work, for Russia it is ideal if the material for gunpowder is made of wood or oil.
  • Vlad_Rez
    Vlad_Rez 15 September 2015 12: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: figvam
    Russian scientists created hemp powder

    They will bite him!

    there’s nothing to chew on, fiber is needed there (I can be wrong, I studied at school for a long time, there were notes in alma mater and there are practically no books on this subject)
  • sa-zz
    sa-zz 15 September 2015 12: 47 New
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    Work on gunpowder from hemp is still underway.


    Handsome men. After all, cannabis can also be studied by other properties, without rushing of course.
    And in general - to the ACADEMIC PRIZE well and "drulk" a bag of course!
  • Wolka
    Wolka 15 September 2015 12: 48 New
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    the essence of the article is understandable and it pleases, however, there are a lot of questions for discussion, but the author clearly does not know the terminology of the subject of discussion from the text ...
    1. RiverVV
      RiverVV 15 September 2015 12: 50 New
      -1
      He is not a chemist, that's for sure.
      Cannabis gunpowder ... I can imagine what will happen at the shooting ranges!
      1. shosha
        shosha 15 September 2015 13: 06 New
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        Shoot and with a good mood at the disposal))
      2. Junior, I
        Junior, I 15 September 2015 13: 12 New
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        RiverVV; Personally, I would give you a minus. But I won’t do it. There is an achievement and there are studies with confirmation. And this is the main thing. To be continued soon. And you can continue to imagine, dreamer. Tongue scratching, not lead development!
        1. RiverVV
          RiverVV 15 September 2015 18: 13 New
          +2
          Do you tell the chemist with the two higher ones? You're kind of funny. Is this an achievement to make smokeless cannabis powder? Yes, it can be made from sawdust, there would be a desire. Any cellulose is nitrated in the same way and the production line does not need to be redone when using flax, cotton, or even straw as a raw material. Boasting of such an “achievement” is the same as announcing that you have learned to cook both horns and spaghetti in the same pan.
          But the faith of hamsters due to technological progress is indestructible ... :)))
  • Berthan
    Berthan 15 September 2015 13: 01 New
    +1
    Low-cannabinoid (industrial) hemp, with industrial volumes (sorry for the pun), can noticeably squeeze the so-called "selection" varieties - parishes from which, sometimes terrify ...
  • sv68
    sv68 15 September 2015 13: 01 New
    +1
    This is what import substitution life-giving does !!!
  • bionik
    bionik 15 September 2015 13: 03 New
    +3
    The Canadian company Motive introduced a car of its own design. The new car called Kestrel is interesting to many because its body is made of ... hemp. Rather, from composite materials obtained on the basis of this wonderful plant.
    It turned out that hemp is great for the production of car bodies. After all, from it you can get light, hard and sufficiently durable material, which, moreover, can be recycled. And hemp does not rust, which is also very important.
    1. Rader
      Rader 15 September 2015 21: 05 New
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      Environmentally friendly cars, environmentally friendly gunpowder, environmentally friendly tanks firing environmentally friendly shells ... wassat
  • zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 15 September 2015 13: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    Cannabis in our latitudes is growing unsuitable for drug addicts (as well as poppy). Of course, if you drink five buckets of water, you can get drunk :-).
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 September 2015 13: 17 New
    +1
    Normal hemp grows in our latitudes, no need to slander our country. Everything can be made from it: Polymers, fabrics. natures product!
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 15 September 2015 13: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take?


    before, it was unnecessary for anyone to protect and even hemp oil was much tastier than sunflower oil. As for drug addicts, they, as experience has shown, will smoke shit.
    Currently, China, Canada, Romania, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, some countries of Asia and Latin America are leading in the field of production and processing of hemp products.
    Russia has become the largest importer of natural fiber and vegetable oil. Annually, up to several million tons of hemp and jute fiber are purchased abroad, and the import of edible oils is at least 1 million tons (mostly cheap low-cost palm oil).

    Our traditional hemp and flax cultures will save Russia if we return to them.
  • stonks
    stonks 15 September 2015 13: 23 New
    +1
    Hopefully patented! :-)
  • 23424636
    23424636 15 September 2015 13: 40 New
    +1
    Well done scientists chemists. One thing that is surprising is Russia under Alexander 2 and Alexander 3, had Central Asia for the production of gunpowder. But Gorbachev and Benya Yelchin gave all this conquest to the bastards from the states. We hope that the GDP will return Russian territories to Central Asia.
  • Tjeck
    Tjeck 15 September 2015 13: 51 New
    -4
    it seems like the first Ukrainian warriors came to the verdict about the slaughter of a mixture of gunpowder and hemp wassat : stop inventing, damn inventors .. I can’t look at such news without skepticism and ridicule.
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 15 September 2015 14: 49 New
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      Duck that's where the maidan and the nonsense of which are Svidomo laughing
  • mamont5
    mamont5 15 September 2015 14: 03 New
    +2
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Will hemp fields appear? How interesting! How much security will it take? Or did they develop a special grade for making gunpowder?

    It’s better then to plant flax. In addition to gunpowder, there will be excellent raw materials for the production of fabrics.
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  • NKVD
    NKVD 15 September 2015 14: 04 New
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    There is nothing surprising in this. Both of these cultures contain a lot of cellulose-based pyroroxide powders.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 September 2015 14: 08 New
    +1
    and hemp will not suit you for fabric?
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 15 September 2015 17: 14 New
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      So, cotton is suitable for fabric. The question is in the grades - what is for the fabric, and what is for gunpowder.

      About hemp:
      For the fabric, male plants are used (lean), for hemp ropes - female (mother). For gunpowder, a mother will probably go - she is much cheaper than
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  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 15 September 2015 14: 08 New
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    Can you get gunpowder from poppy? what
    1. Jan Ivanov
      Jan Ivanov 15 September 2015 22: 33 New
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      from poppy very small fraction. )
      1. code54
        code54 16 September 2015 07: 13 New
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        Fine, high bucks? belay
  • fa2998
    fa2998 15 September 2015 14: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: nebalagur
    Still used to nettled nettles, it is generally like dirt ...

    Not from nettle - from ragweed. One Rostov region. will give the country millions of tons. It will grow everywhere, everyone is fighting, they cannot win. But seriously, in order to expand the production of gunpowder for the army, you need to have industrial production of flax and hemp, NO! There is no raw material, at one time hoped for Central Asian cotton, everything This is such an import substitution - now sown area is needed, and considerable. hi
  • HMR333
    HMR333 15 September 2015 14: 29 New
    +1
    hucksters waited will now legally trade))))
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 15 September 2015 15: 09 New
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      They wanted to say that now they will legally shoot the huckster))))
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 September 2015 14: 41 New
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    Well, generally good. So there will be what fields to take. And again, strategic raw materials are obtained, hemp flax.