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Pentagon: Russian VKS on technical capabilities equaled the US Air Force

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The Russian Space Forces have eliminated the lag in technical capabilities from the US Air Force, Frank Gorentz, commander of the US Air Force in Europe, told reporters yesterday His words leads TASS.




“I don’t think it will be controversial to say: they have overcome the gap in ability,” said Gorenz, commenting on the modernization of the Russian aviation. “I mean both the planes that they (the Russians) produce and the ability to create extremely well-protected areas with access restriction systems, which personally causes me more anxiety.”

He noted that Russia managed to "improve both quality and quantity."

According to Gorentz, the US Air Force will now "have to expand training," which will allow "to receive, if necessary, access to such well-protected zones." “It is absolutely clear that we will have to go back (to the old practice) and start practicing the same things that we did during the Cold War,” the general noted.

Such well protected zones, according to Gorentz, are the Crimea and the Kaliningrad region.
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 15 September 2015 11: 51 New
    +15
    He flatters the US Air Force, saying that the capabilities of our air forces are equal to the American air forces in terms of technical capabilities. Where did he get that we were behind? It’s not because they blinded the F-35 woodwafer, on which hundreds of billions of bucks swelled, but didn’t bring it to mind?
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 15 September 2015 11: 53 New
      +5
      Yes sir! The Russian Air Force did not equal, but - Steeper and Higher than the US Air Force! In which, since the beginning of the year, their "flyers" have already killed 18. "unkillable" F-15 and F-16soldier
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      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 15 September 2015 11: 55 New
        +10
        Can a commander say anything bad about his kind of troops? Everything is fine with him, and the rest are only catching up. Say differently - at once they will find a replacement.
      3. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 15 September 2015 11: 58 New
        +16
        I don’t like when the USA starts to praise .... So, they found something (a hole in the defense, or even worse, who merges the old ..) hi
        1. Manul
          Manul 15 September 2015 12: 31 New
          +3
          Quote: MIKHAN
          I don’t like when the USA starts to praise .... So, they found something (a hole in the defense, or even worse, who merges the old ..)

          Yes, it feels like lulling, and offering to rest on our laurels. We must not listen, but work ahead of our time and not stop. Otherwise, soon the "partners" will make a spurt, and will be far ahead. They have opportunities for this, whatever you say.
      4. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 15 September 2015 12: 24 New
        0
        Russian VKS on technical capabilities caught up with US Air Force

        We will also teach the Chinese, will you have hemorrhagic .. fellow
        1. SSR
          SSR 15 September 2015 13: 33 New
          0
          Quote: INVESTOR
          Russian VKS on technical capabilities caught up with US Air Force

          We will also teach the Chinese, will you have hemorrhagic .. fellow

          Why rejoice? To that VKS - Cosmic forces are equal to their Air forces? And the general would walk in the forest, and let this space passenger keep silent about our VKS.
          1. opus
            opus 17 September 2015 19: 29 New
            0
            Quote: SSR
            with their Air Force?

            Americans have space (combat) engaged in the Air Force (silo-based ICBMs, the same in their charge)

            The US Air Force base at Cape Canaveral (and SC) is the same as them, and there are a bunch of small SC

            and others


            The US Navy is engaged in the same space, but less

            Walter M. Schirra Walter M. Schirra US Navy Gemini-6A Commander
            Neil A. Armstrong US Navy Gemini-8 Commander
            Eugene A. Cernan US Navy Gemini-9A Pilot
            Michael Collins (Michael Collins) US Air Force Gemini-10 Pilot
            Richard F. Gordon US Navy Gemini-11 Pilot

            etc

            02.01.2015
            Satellite Mobile User Objective System-3 or MUOS-3 american navywas sent from Cape Canaveral, where the navy station is located on the Atlas V booster. Ultimately, MUOS-3 will be located in a geostationary orbit (35400 km above the Earth).

            Mobile User Objective System-3 already the third satellite in its series. MUOS-1 and MUOS-2 were also launched from the Atlas V launch vehicle, respectively, in February 2012 of the year and July 2013 of the year. The satellite was built for the American forces by Lockheed Martin.
        2. Maj.
          Maj. 15 September 2015 23: 50 New
          0
          found friends on themselves and only on oneself one should hope.
      5. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 15 September 2015 14: 39 New
        +3
        All these statements have one goal - knocking out the next headstock for weapons.
      6. Saratovets
        Saratovets 15 September 2015 21: 55 New
        +1
        how many of our airplanes crashed over the summer .. recall?
      7. Maj.
        Maj. 15 September 2015 23: 49 New
        +1
        but how many of ours are broken? Be watchful and don’t be conceited, the enemy cannot be underestimated, especially since the enemy is vile and far from a knight.
      8. opus
        opus 17 September 2015 19: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Baikonur
        18 pcs already "unkillable" F-15 and F-16

        ? Where did you get these numbers?
        in 2015?
        F-15 and F-18? -NO ONE
        WAS IN 2015:
        26 January 2015 - General Dynamics fighter F-16 Fighting Falcon owned Greek Air Forcecrashed on the runway of the air base of Los Llanos
        7 July 2015 - in the sky near Charleston (USA) a fighter collided F-16 and private jet Cessna 150
        ALESS Kaput-ALL

        in 2014

        15 January - F / A-18E Super Hornet (US Navy) - Virginia
        Fell into the Atlantic Ocean 45 miles offshore while performing a training flight in 14: 30 local time. located in the Japanese city of Atsugi.
        1 March - F / A-18С Super Hornet (US Navy) - Nevada. Crashed 44 kilometers east of the Fallon Navy air base in Nevada. The pilot died.
        27 August - F-15C "Eagle" (104-e fighter wing of the US National Guard) - Virginia. Making a flight from Massachusetts to New Orleans, crashed in the western part of the state, in the highlands. The pilot died.
        11 September - F / A-18E Super Hornet (US Navy) - Pacific. Crashed during a training flight as a result of a collision with another F / A-18E aircraft. The pilot catapulted and was rescued.
        11 September - F / A-18E Super Hornet (US Navy) - Pacific. Crashed during a training flight as a result of a collision with another F / A-18E aircraft. The pilot died.
        October 8 - F-15D “Eagle” (ser. Number 86-0182, 493th fighter squadron of the 48th operational group of the 48th fighter air wing of the 3th US Air Force in Europe) - United Kingdom
        Crashed during a training flight in the countryside of Lincolnshire in eastern England. The pilot ejected.
        20 October - F-16C Fighting Falcon (US Air Force) - Oklahoma Crashed after colliding with a partner during a training flight. The pilot ejected, no casualties or destruction on the ground.
        6 November - F-16 Fighting Falcon (US Air Force) - Gulf of Mexico. Crashed over the Gulf of Mexico in 57 miles from Panama City, pc. Florida during a training flight. The pilot died.
        November 30 - F-16 Fighting Falcon (US Air Force) - Jordan. Crashed in Jordan for technical reasons. The pilot died.
        Is it
        Quote: Baikonur
        18 pcs already

        ?
        ================================================== ====

        According to data from open sources, since the beginning of the year, the Air Force of the Russian Federation has lost in serious aviation incidents (excluding the crash of 6 July 2015 year) 5 aircraft, however, three people died in three disasters.
        approx.
        So the Americans and the raid per year is almost 4-5 times more than ours
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 September 2015 13: 40 New
      +15
      Listen, well, I did not even expect such a dense cheers-patriotism.
      The USSR Air Force, with the advent of the Su-27 and MiG-29, basically went head to head with the US Air Force, losing in some ways, but defeating the Yankees in some ways. However, by 1991, the Americans had reached a new technological level, and we ... stood up. They modernized their “Needles”, installed the latest control and communication systems, improved radar and other and other, and we didn’t have anything of this - until recently, they flew airplanes with avionics of the 1980 model of the year. The Americans created an effective medium-range missile - AMRAAM, the USSR answered P-77, but due to the fact that the main production facilities remained in Ukraine, the missile did not go into the troops, and P-27 is still fighting, an analogue of the same ancient Sparrow, which the United States has not applied for a long time. Our short-range missile (Made in the USSR!) P-73 short-range, which at the time of its appearance was the best in the world, is not one now - Sidewinders are being modernized and improved. And so - whatever you touch.
      The situation is slowly getting better - Su-34, Su-35 have entered the troops, adequate weapons have appeared (but little so far), new electronic warfare systems (oh, not a joke), the newest air-to-air missile defense systems should be put into service in the coming 2-3 years "RVV-AE and RVV-SD, which are in no way inferior to the Americans, but ... this is yet to come, and now we are inferior to the states for the time being, especially in numbers.
      1. Falcon
        Falcon 15 September 2015 14: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        UR "air-to-air" RVV-AE and RVV-SD, which will not yield to the Americans

        The aim-120 is inferior in range. they have 2000km since 105 and already 2004km since 120, and have been designed for 180km, so far we are only creating a RVV-SD with a range of 110km ...

        Our RVV-DB is under 200 km, but it is already of a different class and twice as heavy.

        You can also recall CUDA - it will be very interesting ...

        As for solid fuels, there was a lag.

        Stuffing, for your consumption, to expand the budget.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 15 September 2015 15: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Falcon
          Lose the aim-120 in range. with 2000 they have 105 km and with 2004 they already have 120 km, and they design it under 180 km

          In principle, yes, but the difference in 110-120 km is small, especially since no one shoots medium-range air-to-air missiles at such ranges (in real combat, no one used amraam in my opinion and on 50 km). But we can hope that the AGSN will be more interesting on ours.
          Quote: Falcon
          and design under 180km

          Quote: Falcon
          Our RVV-DB under 200 km, but it is already of a different class and twice as heavy

          Two times heavier than what? :) Do you know the mass of AIM-120D? I would be grateful for the source.
          Quote: Falcon
          You can also recall CUDA - it will be very interesting ...

          When ... and if it will :)
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  2. kocclissi
    kocclissi 15 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +2
    It's only the beginning!
    1. Tor5
      Tor5 15 September 2015 13: 07 New
      -2
      Catch up, catch up with the guys, but it is unlikely to succeed.
      1. mark2
        mark2 15 September 2015 18: 20 New
        +3
        I am surprised at the opinion of citizens of Russian (Russian) origin living in the countries of "advanced" Europe. the vicious comments about the soviet nature of those who remained in the homeland of the former are not understandable now. They themselves were scoops, so they remained scoops. Philistines in the nobility, type)

        Nobody is going to catch up with anyone. This is stupid, unpromising and terribly expensive. And if you do not catch up, but simply step over the technological level? With "Armata" did the same? Happened. No one anywhere could realize these ideas that are inherent in this machine.
        And then, who else should catch up with whom? Some of our "partners" have a problem with space flights. And it would seem quite recently landed on the moon ...
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  4. Hubun
    Hubun 15 September 2015 11: 52 New
    +2
    every day is not Sunday
  5. Ross_ulair
    Ross_ulair 15 September 2015 11: 53 New
    +8
    According to Gorenets, the US Air Force will now “have to expand training,” which will allow it to “get access to such well-protected areas if necessary.” “It is very clear that we will have to return (to the previous practice) and begin to practice the same things that we did during the Cold War,” the general noted.


    Well, like this! Terrorists have no air defense (not counting MANPADS). And the flyers from the NATO Air Force have long lost the skills and ability to overcome the layered air defense system - that is what they were preparing for before the 91st year. Now it comes to the generals, to which the war with a knowingly weaker enemy leads.
    1. vell.65
      vell.65 15 September 2015 12: 18 New
      0
      And did they have the skills to overcome the layered missile defense system? As soon as they sit on their hedgehogs with their bare asses, they will only think about it.
      1. Ross_ulair
        Ross_ulair 15 September 2015 14: 32 New
        0
        There were, were. The Yankees are not stupid, they were preparing very seriously for the “hot” phase of the confrontation with the USSR
  6. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 15 September 2015 11: 54 New
    +3
    Russian VKS on technical capabilities caught up with US Air Force

    Oh, these "Obama's Ases", all so invincible, well, where to us!
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 15 September 2015 11: 54 New
    +4
    He noted that Russia managed to "improve both quality and quantity."


    "We do not slurp tea with cabbage soup, we are pursuing tea policy!"
    L. Filatov
    1. Hellraiser
      Hellraiser 15 September 2015 12: 05 New
      +2
      He said everything as is without a foe,
      But he’s not a stupid man,
      Do not look that he is dur-ak. lol
      L. Filatov
      1. erseer
        erseer 17 September 2015 19: 48 New
        0
        if in your post replace D. Filatov with Leonid Filatov
        then all four lines will pass for a full verse.
  8. pascal309
    pascal309 15 September 2015 11: 57 New
    +4
    I’m more concerned about their ability to block access to certain zones, "Gorenz said ... Mr. didn’t want to mention the Russian air defense systems so as not to sign the complete superiority of the Russians
  9. Dobroslav2015
    Dobroslav2015 15 September 2015 11: 58 New
    +2
    In such things you can not stop and slip, only forward. Even if you have eliminated the backlog, this is not a reason to calm down; you need to be proactive so that you can unpleasantly surprise the enemy with your capabilities. And as Suvorov said, "surprised means he won."
  10. sinukvl
    sinukvl 15 September 2015 12: 00 New
    +5
    Whether it still will be, oh, oh, oh!
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 September 2015 12: 04 New
    +2
    In general, there is something to be proud of! And most importantly there is something to answer ... Toli will still be men! hi
  12. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 15 September 2015 12: 07 New
    +1
    I hope that by the year 20 the volume of deliveries will not change, which will allow us to seriously increase our forces in aviation, air defense and, of course, the navy. We’ll think about slipping in, leaving with a broken sea ...
  13. roskot
    roskot 15 September 2015 12: 08 New
    0
    Such well-protected zones, according to Gorenets, are the Crimea and the Kaliningrad region

    Our Honduras haunts them.
  14. X Y Z
    X Y Z 15 September 2015 12: 10 New
    +1
    According to Gorenets, the US Air Force will now "have to expand training," which will allow it to "get access to such well-protected areas if necessary"


    Well, okay. The “magic” F-35, or even the “super-magic” F-22, will come and everything will immediately become easily accessible. Another American bragging. Advertising forces and capabilities.
  15. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 15 September 2015 12: 12 New
    +4
    Quote: Baikonur
    Yes sir! The Russian Air Force did not equal, but - Steeper and Higher than the US Air Force! In which, since the beginning of the year, their "flyers" have already killed 18. F-15 and F-16soldier


    Case of life . We are standing at MAKS 2007, our SU fighter (I don’t remember the numbers and letters, unfortunately), but with the UVT, I "danced", it was just nice to watch; next F-15 flies in a circle, “barrel” and “loop”, and that’s all ... Nearby an elderly woman stands and says: “Flies fast.” And the man next replies: "But because he slowly does not know how." Well, that’s the whole difference between us and these ...
  16. Nord2015
    Nord2015 15 September 2015 12: 15 New
    +4
    Here he started singing .... He probably wants to increase the budget for his office.
  17. Barakuda
    Barakuda 15 September 2015 12: 15 New
    +1
    Can I laugh? Mattress roofing materials (Obama) rule in media tactics. Bulava, Yars, Poplar-m, etc. do not let you sleep. Now it’s clear from the State Department that the lack of sleep is de.b.ilov.
    And at night, the Bears. maybe helicopters? smile
  18. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 15 September 2015 12: 16 New
    +1
    Either the translation is incorrect, or the general is stupid - to compare the VKS and the Air Force. However, the essence of his statement is clear and transparent: "Hey there, in Congress! The Russians are coming! Give me more money, and more!"
  19. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 15 September 2015 12: 18 New
    +3
    Colleagues, what are you stifling Americanos? Well, the general told the truth in his understanding. Moreover, he seemed to me to be a person far from politics, a purely warrior, and he showed us respect, it is clear that with an American accent, but he couldn’t say otherwise, even physiologically. They have a smaller alphabet, a different mentality, and they are more swaggering.
    But he thinks competently and purely military.

    Here it is like that.
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 15 September 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    Paures also thought would fly over the USSR. But then he really regretted his self-confidence.
    1. HAM
      HAM 15 September 2015 12: 27 New
      0
      Like this!!!!
  21. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 September 2015 12: 26 New
    +3
    Quote: sever.56
    sculpted wood-wafer F-35, on which hundreds of billions of bucks swelled, but did not bring it to mind?


    This is the answer to the question: how so? military budgets 10: 1, and in real forces - equality.

    They wrote at the time that the F-35 lost the training battle of the F-16 with a score of 9: 1. The F-35 pilot came up with only one maneuver, which gave him an advantage; and in other cases, he was driving F-16, which was with outboard fuel tanks; obviously overtaxed and with poor aerodynamics.

    There are tales that F-35 pilots are not taught at all to maneuver aerial combat; they don’t even have any instructions - only at a distance or to drape - such an airplane turned out.
    1. Nord2015
      Nord2015 15 September 2015 12: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Gormengast
      only at a distance or to drape

      Well, the missile system for him - "shot-escaped"
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  22. Wolka
    Wolka 15 September 2015 12: 52 New
    +1
    bike for the American taxpayer ...
  23. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 September 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    create extremely well-protected areas using access control systems that personally I'm more worried

    Americans are not used to the fact that their planes can shoot down. From here and anxiety, and not in vain.
  24. Batia
    Batia 15 September 2015 13: 00 New
    0
    I do not like it when the enemy praises, oh I do not like it.
  25. Berthan
    Berthan 15 September 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    ... causes more anxiety ...


    Well, they’re not able to respect - don’t fuck up ...
  26. KRIG55
    KRIG55 15 September 2015 14: 56 New
    +1
    It’s worth considering if suddenly a potential time is ... sorry - the partner praises. Still, Stalin said: "If the enemy scolds us, then we are doing everything right."
  27. ASG7
    ASG7 15 September 2015 15: 06 New
    +1
    What the US military budget allocates most of all to is the situation in those armed forms.
  28. iouris
    iouris 15 September 2015 15: 29 New
    0
    Generals after such statements, if true, usually "resign". Compare the budget of the Russian Federation and the USA. And, hopefully, everything will fall into place.
  29. Halfunra
    Halfunra 15 September 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    And we are cloning Nikita Sergeich! He will show them to Kuzkin’s mother. We’ll take him to Cuba, and we’ll set up in Venisuela, in Kamchatka.
    The mattresses are nuts, with Proshenko go from one bottle.
    There a long time ago no one jumped from their windows. It’s time already. soldier am angry fool
  30. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 15 September 2015 20: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Americans are not used to the fact that their planes can shoot down. From here and anxiety, and not in vain.

    Yes, it’s not that they’re not used to it, but Vietnam is already forgotten, and easy goals like unarmed Arabs have forgotten how to think and fight! laughing am