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How a school kills children's talents and creates thousands of losers

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90% of students will not be successful people, live the life of losers. Our society is under the overwhelming hypnosis of the matrix and can not understand the obvious truths. The education system is hopelessly outdated. 90% unhappy people - more than just a lot. If the mineral water plant would have released 9 from 10 bottles of dirty water, the manual would have definitely been sent to prison.




How a school kills children's talents and creates thousands of losers


Every year thousands of schools “produce” people who will live unrealized, lonely, poor. Why is this happening?


The causes of today's evil must be sought in the past. Modern school was created 200 years ago. This institute responded to the specific needs of the industrial age. At that time, production was rapidly developing in England. New factories, banks, factories appeared. Millions of thoughtless, obedient performers — a kind of biorobot — were needed to serve them. Then the system was founded, contrary to common sense, the nature of the child, evolution.


The ideal program for creating robots that are the gears of a large business.


We know that children love to play. So learning happens ten times faster than at the desk. Children have a lot of energy. They love to laugh, run, jump. The school punishes children for any manifestation of emotions, cheerfulness, curiosity. There is no question of any personal development, both physical and spiritual-intellectual. Our pedagogy is built so as to destroy the individuality, personality, to deprive the child of their opinions.


A few reasons why school is bad:


  1. Modern science has proven that a child learns effectively only when it is mistaken. The school is doing everything to work out the fear of mistakes in children. For the wrong answers are punished, put a deuce. In the future, these unfortunate people are afraid to try new things, experiment, make mistakes.

  2. In tasks there is only 2 answer - correct and incorrect. In this way, children begin to see the world flat. Many tasks, in fact, may have thousands of correct solutions.

  3. Children have no time to think. The modern learning process is structured so that the child is constantly loaded with dull, meaningless work. Earlier, during the heyday of philosophy, the teacher led students to the river bank and gave the task to think. They could argue for a few days, reflect. Only by thinking in silence can we develop our mind.

  4. Modern school kills one of the innate instincts - the desire for knowledge. Leonardo da Vinci did not attend school. Only because of this he was able to develop and maintain a thirst for knowledge. All his life he made brilliant discoveries, remaining a student. Da Vinci's inventions on 500 years are ahead of time. Most students, having received diplomas, stop learning forever. They hate this process. All life remain spiritual disabilities.

  5. All the knowledge that comes from school with violence and humiliation of personality for 11 years can fit on a five dollar chip, they cost nothing. The world is developing rapidly. Information becomes outdated and becomes useless. Valuable only is the ability to self-educate, which is precisely not taught.

Most people no longer ride donkeys, no one uses pigeon mail. Reality has changed. Only the feudal-industrial education system remained the same.


Dear grandparents, moms and dads, if someone has the opportunity to transfer a child to an out-of-school education, give the child a happy life without hesitation, take him out of school.


More evil than school and hard to imagine. Criticizing school education, I do not in any way want to offend people, exceptions, teachers from God. They even in this school hell have enough courage and love for children, to give them knowledge, to inspire future achievements. But this, unfortunately, exceptions that only underline the rule.


Dear friends, develop awareness, curiosity.

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  1. Denis_469
    Denis_469 15 September 2015 14: 44 New
    +45
    What idiocy, not an article. At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads. And there is never much knowledge - they are always lacking. Otherwise, physicists appear who have no idea about new discoveries and are convinced that superluminal velocities do not exist. Just because they don’t need it.
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 15 September 2015 14: 51 New
      +21
      Quote: Denis_469
      At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads.

      100% correct. The main task facing the teaching staff in an educational institution is to form the learner’s ability to learn, which, when the student strives to acquire knowledge and skills, brings an excellent result. As eastern wisdom says: "And one person can lead a horse to a watering place, but even a hundred will not make her drink water if she does not want to."
      1. Vend
        Vend 15 September 2015 14: 55 New
        -1
        Here is the author issued.
        If the mineral water factory would produce 9 from 10 bottles of dirty water - management would definitely be sent to prison.
        compared people with bottles laughing
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 15 September 2015 16: 05 New
          -2
          Quote: Wend
          Here is the author issued.
          If the mineral water factory would produce 9 from 10 bottles of dirty water - management would definitely be sent to prison.
          compared people with bottles laughing

          Here is the author - that same bottle ... with dirty water! One in 10 ... the rest are just people!
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 15 September 2015 17: 38 New
            +5
            Schools do not exist to develop creative curiosity in a child. Its task is to prepare a person for adulthood. And life is a cruel thing. Whether we like it or not, 90% of the population will work with gears in production. Inability to obey discipline, incontinence in statements and actions will lead a person to a job loss, or even to deprivation of freedom, much faster than his lack of ability to see the outside world outside of the box. Of course, the child’s creative abilities need to be developed, but not at the expense of budgetary institutions.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 18: 13 New
              +10
              Quote: Mahmut
              Its task is to prepare a person for adulthood.

              During World War II, children worked on a par with adults on the machines.
              As children learn the same computers, in comparison with adults, it’s a pleasure to watch.
              Do not consider them stupid and incapable. They are not blinded, unlike adults, but this is a huge plus.
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 16 September 2015 03: 23 New
                +3
                The number of minuses to the article is proof of the correctness of the author. The article is very correct and true, it is a pity that many are not given to understand it.
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 16 September 2015 10: 03 New
                  +3
                  Quote: crazyrom
                  The number of minuses to the article is proof of the correctness of the author. The article is very correct and true, it is a pity that many are not given to understand it.

                  I am one of those who slammed a minus of this article. And I really want to discuss with you. About the correctness and veracity of the article, of course.

                  By the way, I switched to the source and read the comments there (it is a pity that I myself can’t unsubscribe). Funny reading. And sad. Such a paradox. Some Discovery Channel is considered educational for some reason, and sufficient for children to get an educational load. You too, maybe you think so?
                  1. victorrat
                    victorrat 16 September 2015 15: 00 New
                    -4
                    I put a plus article! You did not study outside of school and do not respect Leonardo da Vinci!
                    Here, after all, they say that at school they learn the cruelties of life, and we say the author of the article about something else !!
                    Have you ever wondered why we have so few Nobel laureates in Russia?
                    1. Foul skeptic
                      Foul skeptic 16 September 2015 15: 56 New
                      +1
                      Quote: victorrat
                      You didn’t study externally and do not respect Leonardo da Vinci!

                      One may ask, why do you have this offer in the affirmative form? What conclusions have they come from?
                      Quote: victorrat
                      Here, after all, they say that at school they learn the cruelties of life, and we say the author of the article about something else !!

                      I don’t care what is said in the comments, I’m not commenting on the comments (and nonsense in the comments), but on the article (and nonsense in the article)
                      Have you ever wondered why we have so few Nobel laureates in Russia?

                      Why?
                      1. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 29 September 2015 19: 40 New
                        -1
                        Because you put a minus article laughing
                    2. aleks 62 next
                      aleks 62 next 16 September 2015 17: 21 New
                      +6
                      ..... Have you ever wondered why we have so few Nobel laureates in Russia? ...

                      .... Just because the office is located at our "partners" ..... And they have "loved" us for several centuries ... hi
                    3. alecsis69
                      alecsis69 17 September 2015 09: 49 New
                      +2
                      In the days of Leonardo da Vinci, very many did not go to school, and where are they all? Perhaps the origin of the genius da Vinci is not only in the absence of his school education?
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                2. ASK505
                  ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 26 New
                  +2
                  Quote: crazyrom
                  The article is very correct and true, it is a pity that many are not given to understand it.


                  Sad but true. Many were not given to understand it, but I want to stick my five cents.
                  1. Foul skeptic
                    Foul skeptic 16 September 2015 11: 19 New
                    +7
                    Quote: ASK505
                    Sad but true. Many were not given to understand it, but I want to stick my five cents.

                    Let's not talk about five cents, but about the subject of the dispute.
                    Do you have problems with literacy and education? They are huge. And not only among young people.
                    Is there a problem with the education system? They are huge.
                    Did the article reveal the essence of the problem? Gave a psychological portrait of a modern student? Indicated the factors affecting the teacher in preparation for classes and during classes? NOT.
                    Did the article offer a solution? No, not that "decision" - take it from school.
                    Did the article indicate the problems that arise with "self-education"? NO. The most commonplace - self-education is possible only after receiving a certain base. Who will give the base? Parents? How do you create the conditions under which parents will not be engaged in earnings, but in the education of children?


                    The author has super-logic: an assumption is made that 100% genius at birth is inherent in people. Since adults in fact are not 100% geniuses, somewhere in the intermediate stage genius was buried. The intermediate stage is that we have a school. Conclusion - the school deprives people of genius. Class.

                    The reasons for the "harmfulness" of the school are generally a song where there is no logic.

                    Article - cheap stuff and a dummy.
                    1. ermak.sidorov
                      ermak.sidorov 23 September 2015 15: 53 New
                      -1
                      And we plan to get out of the city, from crap and pissed up driveways, from the neighbors-swindlers; to leave for the village, work on the land and independently educate children (just the same base), and they will be free to receive higher education wherever they want. There is almost always a way out, it’s just hard to step over what we have grown up in, it’s hard to move away from the template. In my environment there are people who themselves taught children. Beautiful, smart kids! They are sent to the Olympiads from schools (in which they are listed)! The law provides for the same family form of education. I will take advantage! The teacher herself, I deal with children and see what the school does with the brain. I see every day! The author of the article simply did not post it there. He is, so to speak, a pioneer in this matter. Time will pass and the content of the article will not seem so radical. Believe me! Passing children to school and washing their hands is the easiest. Although also very difficult. Anyway, in the end, they have to learn everything at home :)
            2. Scraptor
              Scraptor 29 September 2015 19: 41 New
              -1
              She cooks wrong if you didn’t know ...
          2. tomket
            tomket 15 September 2015 20: 25 New
            0
            Quote: CONTROL
            Here is the author - that same bottle ... with dirty water!

            Nah ..... There’s murky water)))))
        2. tomket
          tomket 15 September 2015 20: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Wend
          compared people with bottles

          I was surprised that in addition to the correct and incorrect answer, there may also be some sort of one)))) Moderators and administrators, you there didn’t leave the bastard as an ace ?? You print such nonsense ......
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 15 September 2015 20: 27 New
            -1
            Quote: tomket
            I was amazed that in addition to the correct and incorrect answer, there may also be some sort of

            Exactly .. but I'm generally annoyed by the presence in the "answers" in the textbook any answer, except for the correct one .. laughing

            See (from the classics) - Scanavi's problem book, for example .. well, there are no wrong answers..
          2. sataha666
            sataha666 16 September 2015 11: 03 New
            +1
            totally agree strange sounds
            There are only 2 answers in tasks - correct and incorrect. Thus, children begin to see the world flat. Many tasks, in fact, can have thousands of the right solutions.


            there may be thousands of correct decisions that will lead to the correct answer, but will not give a third answer and neither the right nor the wrong :)) and someone pluses this nonsense
        3. kachurov2015
          kachurov2015 16 September 2015 21: 33 New
          +1
          One stupid person after the exam, having received a diploma, is a threat to the state-woo.
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 15 September 2015 14: 57 New
        +13
        Dirty article ..! I read these back in 90 ... The goal is to rebel and look for someone to blame! ..
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 15 September 2015 15: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Dirty article ..!

          But there are true theses in it: the title of the article, and
          If the mineral water factory would produce 9 from 10 bottles of dirty water - management would definitely be sent to prison.
          . The rest resembles nonsense. hi
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 15 September 2015 15: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            But there are true theses in it: the title of the article, and
            If the mineral water factory would produce 9 from 10 bottles of dirty water - management would definitely be sent to prison.



            It seems to me that the author, by his own fabrications, is similar to one of 9 bottles ...
          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 15 September 2015 17: 16 New
            -1
            reminds nonsense.


            Pure nonsense. It’s even interesting, even in a rare nonsense, there are one or two rational grains, but here the impression is that the author defecated in an article.
          3. tank64rus
            tank64rus 15 September 2015 19: 11 New
            +1
            In my opinion, the Ministry of Education uses the ideas of the author.
            1. tomket
              tomket 15 September 2015 20: 26 New
              0
              Quote: tank64rus
              The Ministry of Education uses the ideas of the author.

              definitely....
            2. Amurets
              Amurets 16 September 2015 05: 21 New
              +1
              Yes, this is an article by one of the clerks of the Ministry of Education. The link is empty
          4. tank64rus
            tank64rus 15 September 2015 19: 11 New
            +2
            In my opinion, the Ministry of Education uses the ideas of the author.
        2. smart Fox
          smart Fox 15 September 2015 19: 13 New
          +19
          Did the author himself work at school? In that school, where not a step from the standard, not a step away from the program, where officials regulated everything? My wife works at school, says that such idiocy at the school has not existed for a long time. No one needs children at all. the main thing is pieces of paper, reports and regulatory documents!
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 19: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: sly fox
            In that school, where not a step from the standard, not a step away from the program, where officials regulated everything?

            Universal education was already in the USSR. It was forbidden to leave for the second year, although there were second-year students in our class. And for the deuces of the teachers they did not stroke the head - they spoiled the indicators, as they say now, the image.
          2. Denis 60 rus
            Denis 60 rus 15 September 2015 22: 20 New
            +8
            could, would put a thousand pluses. even school books and then with errors .... scum.
            1. Denis 60 rus
              Denis 60 rus 15 September 2015 22: 25 New
              +4
              to the cunning fox quote my comment. the class teacher directly says, with this education the children will not have knowledge and you parents (if you remember) teach children additionally.
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          3. ASK505
            ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 30 New
            0
            Quote: sly fox
            Did the author himself work at school?


            The word "rabatil" in Russian is not. What school taught you this?
            1. ermak.sidorov
              ermak.sidorov 23 September 2015 16: 01 New
              0
              Do we only have Mayakovsky? :)
            2. smart Fox
              smart Fox 12 October 2015 09: 46 New
              0
              There is also an outdated pronunciation and spelling: work.

              Root: -work-; suffixes:

              This is an obsolete form of the verb to work, an imperfective verb.
              I studied very well at school. And you?
          4. ermak.sidorov
            ermak.sidorov 23 September 2015 16: 00 New
            0
            exactly! this is exactly what scares! Papers, reports and documents. My girlfriend is a primary school teacher. I ask: "How much time do you really explain the material?" Answer: "15 minutes." The rest of the time is a struggle for discipline. I ask: "Is it realistic for a child not to touch his parents and cope with everything himself?" Answer: "Nope." I ask: "Will you lead your child to school?" Answer: "Initial - no." Why lead to school if all the same then at home everything is in the second round? I’d better explain everything myself in 2 hours, let him do it for another hour, and then walk around and stock up on health. And let him work, let him learn to hammer nails!
      3. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 15: 08 New
        +4
        I recall the teaching “corps” of my school in the 70-80s, foreign fashion magazines, the pursuit of clothes and scarcity, the complete admiration of the West and the longing that we all live in this dull scoop.
        1. klaus16
          klaus16 15 September 2015 15: 24 New
          +20
          Well, it may have been so for you. For all it is not necessary. In general, on the subject: we all see, we all know that the educational system is "worthless" now. Parents of children who are at school understand this very closely. Question: A CHO STATE IS SILENT ??? Why is the Minister of Education mumbled? There are millions of examples of IDIOT teaching in schools, at least textbooks, at least teachers (young). WHERE OF ACTION ????
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 15: 43 New
            -5
            But I don’t speak for everyone. Everyone has already made their choice in the year 90.
            1. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 21: 11 New
              +3
              Well, right everyone on a business trip on Mars was back, and then Gorbachev and Yeltsin were destroying the country. And they have nothing to do with it.
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        2. Homo
          Homo 15 September 2015 15: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          I recall the teaching “corps” of my school in the 70-80s, foreign fashion magazines, the pursuit of clothes and scarcity, the complete admiration of the West and the longing that we all live in this dull scoop.

          I feel sorry for you! What a wretched childhood you had! You are probably from Moscow!
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 15: 41 New
            -4
            My childhood was wonderful. I'm from Peter. But the teachers were from the provinces.
            1. Homo
              Homo 16 September 2015 00: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Mother Teresa
              My childhood was wonderful. I'm from Peter. But the teachers were from the provinces.

              I apologize. It was necessary to say - from the capital (or from the second capital)!
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 15 September 2015 16: 45 New
          +6
          Quote: Mother Teresa
          the melancholy that we all here live in this dull scoop.

          pffff
          yes longing, but I lived and studied, fought, hooligan, rejoiced, fell in love and much more, by the way in the same period
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 20: 25 New
            +1
            You do not understand what I wrote. Read carefully.
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      5. alicante11
        alicante11 15 September 2015 15: 32 New
        +9
        which, with the student’s desire to acquire knowledge and skills, brings an excellent result.


        That's it, that’s WHAT AT STRIVING. And if there is no aspiration, then you have to “bully” with deuces. So they are already forbidden to set, such as preserving the contingent - the main task. Not training, but the preservation of the contingent.
        I got the feeling that the author is somewhere close to the minobra. From there, we are also told that "we need to individually approach each student." And at the same time today they said at a planning meeting that if we could not defend the position of our technical school leadership before the rector, then only half of the cost of an hour would be paid for a group in 13. Although, it would seem, here you are, on a silver platter is almost your "individual approach".
      6. aleks_29296
        aleks_29296 15 September 2015 15: 42 New
        +25
        The main task facing the teaching staff in an educational institution is to form the learner’s ability to learn,


        Old teachers at the institute taught that an engineer cannot know everything, but he must know where to find information and how to use it correctly. On exams, they even allowed me to use literature and lectures, citing the fact that if you do not know, then stupid cheating will not give you anything, in principle it was. In practice, this method of training now gives a good result. Conclusion - you need to learn, first of all, to think with your head.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 15 September 2015 16: 14 New
          +11
          Quote: aleks_29296
          Old teachers at the institute taught that an engineer cannot know everything, but he must know where to find information and how to use it correctly. On exams, they even allowed me to use literature and lectures, citing the fact that if you do not know, then stupid cheating will not give you anything, in principle it was.

          Petersburg Polytechnic University, RFF, 1990-1996.
          The first 3 courses exams were held only from memory (although they didn’t especially drive cribs - I remember the face of the teacher who carefully “did not hear” me flipping through 48 sheets spore bombslying on his knees). From the 4th year it was officially allowed to use when writing the answer to ticket questions their notes (affiliation was determined simply - the teacher could open a note in the first place that came, poke a finger and ask "what is it?"). But the answers to the additional questions had to be given without abstracts.

          In general, the impression is that the teachers considered - since a person tried, rewrote notes / wrote spurs, then something remained in his head.
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 15 September 2015 17: 36 New
            +5
            I studied at the Kazakh Polytechnic in 1982-87. The same thing - many teachers allowed to use exams their by abstract.

            Quote: Alexey RA
            In general, the impression is that the teachers considered - since a person tried, rewrote notes / wrote spurs, then something remained in his head


            I read somewhere once such a recommendation: write spurs - but on the exam by them do not use: rewriting itself contributes to a very good memorization!
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        2. Naum
          Naum 15 September 2015 17: 31 New
          +4
          Add - think in the right direction! An effective search for the shortest and most rational path to the truth - this skill must be developed in children. And to put two as mistakes ... D * the urak is not the one who is mistaken, but who does not correct the mistakes and, moreover, persists in them.
      7. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 15 September 2015 22: 39 New
        +3
        I have not read such nonsense for a long time. Does the author petty revenge for his own failure at school? So, you are one more deuce, you are our concern!
      8. Rarahin
        Rarahin 16 September 2015 08: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: wicked partisan
        The main task facing the teaching staff in an educational institution is to form the learner’s ability to learn,


        I have three children, go to the same school - 9,5,2 grades. For nine years in the field of education did not get better. It only got worse. Order brought only in households. school activities. Read schools, in neighboring schools the situation is, on average, the same. The educational process, as a process of instilling in a child the desire to learn and learn, has died. Dumb memorization. The requirement is basically one- regular class attendance. Not knowledge and discipline (this is the second, or even the third plan), namely, attendance.
        I will reveal the essence:
        The teacher (the era of teachers - in the past) receives a salary for each VISIT of the student. If the student’s absenteeism is not confirmed by a certificate or an explanatory note, then no salary will be charged for this.
        They also do not put ratings below "3" - they will affect the salary and the receipt of the next category, and the category affects the size of the salary.

        For attendance, the second requirement is “rentability” —that is, the surrender of “voluntary” contributions to the fund, class, school, etc. (repairs, landscaping, fence ...). Children whose parents pass regularly - use the teachers ’arrangement, sit closer to the blackboard, participate not in the quality of the audience, but act, although they don’t have the talent for singing or reading poetry ...
        In our school, the amount per student and per month is 900 rubles.

        True, there were still Teachers, and Thank them for not working for money, but for conscience!
        But they are few and almost, or already retired.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 08: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Rarahin
          I have three children

          Well done. Only children can provide poor parents with a comfortable old age. And only parents can provide their children with brothers and sisters, whom it is impossible to buy for any money and all the treasures of the world!
      9. ASK505
        ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 20 New
        -1
        This is not eastern wisdom.
    2. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 15 September 2015 14: 56 New
      +51
      Unfortunately, the author is in many ways right, and the modern school is precisely killing a person’s desire for knowledge. She instills what the teacher believes is correct (especially the first 4 grades, when the student’s personality is formed in elementary school) and if the lop-eared student defends his point of view, then 95% of modern teachers will do everything to publicly ridicule him in the classroom, while forgetting that children's jokes are the most evil jokes, especially at school.
      I have repeatedly watched how, in the first grade, when asked by the teacher, a "forest of hands" rose up at the desks, everyone wanted to answer something ... In the fifth, the situation is radically different. The teacher forcibly challenged students to answer the question / task. And no one ever wondered what happened to the children for 4 years? Why does the boy one day declare - I will not go to school, I hate her?
      And the programs that are being developed for elementary school? I do not consider myself stupid, but sometimes the tasks that were given to the third-grader put me in a dead end. Yes, to hell with him, but! For 4 years, we have changed 3 class teachers and as many training programs! What knowledge can there be in this mess in my head?
      With pleasure and nostalgia I recall a secondary school of the times of the USSR.
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 15 September 2015 15: 21 New
        +15
        Corsair 0304. the Soviet school was just ruined by slogans similar in this article.
        "And no one ever wondered what happened to the children for 4 years?" - they thought, the answer has long been known: before the 5th grade, the child studies the outside world, after his place in this world. there’s no escape from this: the beginning of hormonal breakdown.
        1. Mother Theresa
          Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 16: 21 New
          0
          The Soviet school itself was heavily decomposed. There were a lot of people there who needed two things: class order and reporting. But to instill in children an interest in their subject, to interest, not to carry away, as one teacher without witnesses told me, "they don’t pay me for this." And the eternal answer of all teachers is that the children are stupid, but before they were completely different.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 15 September 2015 16: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: Mother Teresa
            they don’t pay me for it

            listen how unlucky you are with school and teachers
            1. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 20: 28 New
              -2
              Why unlucky very unlucky. A lot of things became clear to me already in my school years.
            2. ASK505
              ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 36 New
              -2
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              listen how unlucky you are with school and teachers


              Mom, where did you study? The beginning of the sentence is capitalized, and at the end a period is put. After treatment, a comma is placed. Please do not write, but read more. Do not disgrace!
              1. Mother Theresa
                Mother Theresa 17 September 2015 21: 38 New
                0
                Let me know you wrote it to whom?
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          2. Dilshat
            Dilshat 15 September 2015 18: 50 New
            +6
            Yes, there were shoals in the Soviet school, there were. He remembered how I was forced to learn to write for a long time with my left hand in the elementary grades. Why?
      2. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM 15 September 2015 15: 41 New
        +17
        The causes of today's evil must be sought in the past. The modern school was created 200 years ago. This institution met the specific needs of the industrial age. At that time, production was rapidly developing in England.


        What school are we talking about? And here is England? The fact that we were imposed on them by a delusional system of tests, plus a perverse system of teaching and a distortion of history in their favor, must be asked from the "moles" in the educational system. And our education is Lomonosov, Mendeleev, Zhukovsky, Tsiolkovsky, Kurchatov, Pavlov, Pirogov, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Sikorsky, Popov ... You can continue for a long time. You can break it quickly, then you can’t build later.

        One Fursenko ruined the education, the other ruined the already dead football ...
        1. ASK505
          ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: Andrew NM
          One Fursenko ruined the education, the other ruined the already dead football ...


          And what does Fursenko have to do with football?
      3. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 15: 55 New
        +3
        Quote: Corsair0304
        Unfortunately, the author is in many ways right, and the modern school is precisely killing a person’s desire for knowledge.

        This is not only a Russian problem. Here says a former American, now a Russian farmer, Justat Walker, who in the 90s was brought to Russia by a parent with an 11-year-old boy.


        Quote: Corsair0304
        With pleasure and nostalgia I recall a secondary school of the times of the USSR.

        And I don’t, I was constantly underestimated for bad behavior. But behavior is not a criterion of knowledge and skills. But I was never afraid of exams, like deuces.
        1. KBACYPA
          KBACYPA 15 September 2015 16: 32 New
          +6
          о
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          I was constantly underestimated for bad behavior


          As far as I remember, they put two ratings: behavior and diligence. In terms of personal behavior, I never had more than 3-ki, but in terms of diligence I did not go below 4-ki. Although, maybe I just got a good school. There was never any hatred of learning. Reluctance to go to school, to learn something, that is, ordinary laziness, was present, but there was no hatred.
        2. ASK505
          ASK505 16 September 2015 10: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          farmer Justat Walker,


          Great authority in education in Russia.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 16: 42 New
            +1
            This Livanov is a great authority, and Walker is an amateur. He loves his children.
        3. ermak.sidorov
          ermak.sidorov 23 September 2015 16: 07 New
          0
          Apart from laughter, this guy is nice to me!
      4. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 15 September 2015 19: 15 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair0304
        For 4 years, we have changed 3 class teachers and as many training programs! What knowledge can there be in this mess in my head?

        If your child is not lucky with school, then it is not a fact that the rest have the same.
        And when I look at my children’s school (phys.mat., But with regular balls, etc. events) .... I was wretched crying
        1. nadezhiva
          nadezhiva 15 September 2015 22: 59 New
          +1
          And the number of quizzes, games, competitions (during school hours), charity concerts personally frightens me personally. When do they learn something ??
          When my children take a bath with mathematics, computer science, and English, they scream that they need a computer club and a tutor in a second language (mother and father aren't bullshit) ...
          Kill, but I'm happy.
      5. EvgNik
        EvgNik 16 September 2015 05: 17 New
        0
        Quote: Corsair0304
        With pleasure and nostalgia I recall a secondary school of the times of the USSR.

        Absolutely agree! But my children were not lucky with the school. At meetings, they scolded, threesomes, but: as soon as we went to college, a thirst for knowledge immediately appeared. Finished excellent students.
    3. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 September 2015 14: 56 New
      0
      I agree. Bredyatina. Article "-".
      There are only 2 answers in tasks - correct and incorrect. Thus, children begin to see the world flat. Many tasks, in fact, can have thousands of the right solutions.
      There may be thousands of solutions, but the correct answer for the problem is still one. And no "flatness of the world." Extracurricular education i.e. homework is, firstly, expensive for most people, and secondly, socialization is almost absent. A creature incapable of life (and struggle) will grow. And indeed in the article there are almost no indisputable provisions. What site pre-censorship is missing?
      1. Homo
        Homo 15 September 2015 15: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: marlin1203
        There are only 2 answers in tasks - correct and incorrect. Thus, children begin to see the world flat. Many tasks, in fact, can have thousands of the right solutions.

        What is it like? 2x2 not 4? Is the earth not round?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 15 September 2015 16: 20 New
          +8
          Quote: Homo
          What is it like? 2x2 not 4?

          It depends on which number system. smile
          Quote: Homo
          Is the earth not round?

          Of course not - we live in a three-dimensional world. smile
          In general, our old woman in a first approximation - ellipsoid of revolution. And in the second - geoid. And this is far from the last approximation.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 16: 32 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexey RA
            In general, our old woman, as a first approximation, is an ellipsoid of revolution. And in the second - a geoid. And this is far from the last approximation.

            And from space it is lenticular with a curvature depending on the position of the observer. winked
          2. Homo
            Homo 16 September 2015 00: 41 New
            -1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Of course not - we live in a three-dimensional world. smile
            In general, our old woman, as a first approximation, is an ellipsoid of revolution. And in the second - a geoid. And this is far from the last approximation.

            And if without cleverness - a ball!
      2. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 September 2015 16: 07 New
        +5
        I don’t understand where the minuses came from. What is wrong? At least about!
        1. Mother Theresa
          Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 16: 35 New
          -5
          My minus.
          1. Moreover, censorship. The material is controversial but addresses a very important topic of education.
          2. Getting to a good school is also very expensive.
          3. A creature incapable of life (and struggle) will grow. Life should be taught by parents, not strangers (teachers).
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 16: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Mother Teresa
            to a good school

            What are the criteria for "good"?

            Quote: Mother Teresa
            Life should be taught by parents, not strangers (teachers).

            People used to be taught life in the villages. By the time of marriage / people were able to almost all life skills. Today, our grandchildren grow as abandoned by strangers as our children grew abandoned, as we grew abandoned while our parents worked from morning till night.
            1. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 20: 23 New
              -1
              There are many criteria.
              1. Reviews on the Internet.
              2. The number of students registered in the police department.
              3. Schools with in-depth study of various subjects.
              4. Schools that oversee various higher education institutions.
              5. Schools where the percentage of graduates entering higher education institutions is above average.
              My parents always had time for me.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 08: 21 New
                0
                I think that the wrong criteria are needed. First of all, it is necessary to raise a Man, and not a single school does this.

                I about it, if that.
          2. marlin1203
            marlin1203 15 September 2015 17: 19 New
            +7
            1. Censorship is needed so that every nonsense is not dragged to a serious site, otherwise we’ll slide off at such a pace before the discussion of urine therapy. 2. The key point is to get to school, and he is in principle excluded in the article. And no matter how expensive the school, individual tuition is much more expensive. 3. What are the parents? Who work on 2 works? Yes, and they will not teach interaction with peers, again at school "first love" and the mass of things that to deprive a child is simply criminal. So, "mother"! laughing
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 17: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: marlin1203
              and then at such a pace soon before the discussion of urinotherapy we will slide.

              Before fecal therapy would not slip. laughing

              Quote: marlin1203
              And no matter how expensive the school, individual tuition is much more expensive.
              Is not a fact. There is experience in teaching children different subjects by the parents themselves, some in mathematics, some in Russian, some in biology.

              Quote: marlin1203
              Yes, and they will not teach interaction with peers, again at school "first love" and the mass of things that to deprive a child is simply criminal.

              But how did our ancestors live for thousands of years? And they went wall to wall, and they loved and gave birth to children, and not just had sex ...
              1. marlin1203
                marlin1203 15 September 2015 18: 45 New
                0
                Education by parents. At the level of training at the university? what Unrealistic. Parents then should be teachers of this university laughing And at the expense of "wall to wall" and love, then "welcome to school" !!!
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 19: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: marlin1203
                  At the level of training at the university? what is unrealistic.

                  If something does not correspond to your ideas, ask yourself the question - are your ideas true?

                  And in general, for most universities, they have become an end in themselves.

                  But, in fact, the product of the university.



                  What's next?
            2. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 21: 24 New
              +2
              1. I realized that you are not comfortable with this nonsense.
              2. The key point is that there are very few schools, but many vipers.
              3. My parents had time for me.
              4. You can communicate with peers in sections in circles in the courtyard and many more where.
              5. For many “parents”, the money itself is the purpose of two jobs. And many generally prefer to make a career, financially take place, and only then have children. And then it will be too late.
        2. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 15 September 2015 16: 48 New
          +1
          Cons are not mine.
          In the commentary, the correct thought was expressed; there are many solutions, but the correct answer is one. As for the lack of certain provisions and preliminary censorship, you are wrong.
          There is no censorship on the site and this is correct.
          There is a selection of articles for discussion and this is correct.
          The appearance of an article with controversial provisions is a very important and necessary moment for the formation of discussion - different positions are explained, different understanding of problems and this is correct - truth is born in a dispute.
          Comments on indisputable articles are often of the same type; even reading them is uninteresting. This is your comment about censorship and explains the minuses.
          In this case, I agree with the moderators; they brought up an important and interesting issue for discussion. It’s not scary that the article has incorrect statements, now the commentators will appreciate everything.
          1. marlin1203
            marlin1203 15 September 2015 18: 47 New
            0
            See above answer to “Mother Teresa” hi
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    4. Rivares
      Rivares 15 September 2015 15: 07 New
      +5
      Quote: Denis_469
      At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads.

      Do not mix school and university in one place. They have different tasks. The article is interesting by the way. There was so much knowledge that at first they increased the number of years in school education and still did not manage to accommodate everything. Now the idea arose to teach the student not knowledge, but methods to obtain and systematize this knowledge (without abandoning the minimum necessary knowledge).
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 15: 29 New
        +12
        Quote: Rivares
        They have different tasks.

        The main task of the education system as a whole is to teach a person to think and learn independently. And this is a problem not only and not so much of Russia as the global one.


        Quote: Rivares
        The article is interesting by the way. There was so much knowledge that at first they increased the number of years in school education and still did not manage to accommodate everything.

        Of course, a basic stock of knowledge is needed, but the education system must be changed from factual to methodological.

        1. teascher
          teascher 15 September 2015 18: 47 New
          -2
          your Petrov is lying: he himself came up with an extension of education. he criticizes himself. and the rest is the GEF propaganda
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 19: 55 New
            -1
            And so?
            Graduates of schools working in the US education system receive a High School Certificate. This diploma is recognized by universities in the USA and Canada. From the 9th to the 12th grade, students are preparing for passing the final examsafter which they receive the High School Graduation Diploma.

            there are special 13th grade - Advanced Placement Program. It is for those who wish to study more deeply those subjects on which specialization at the university is planned. Graduates of this class are credited immediately to the 2nd year of university. Further, those who wish to get higher education can go to colleges or universities, where they receive a bachelor's degree in 4 years.
      2. veksha50
        veksha50 15 September 2015 15: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: Rivares
        Now the idea arose to teach the student not knowledge, but methods to obtain and systematize this knowledge(without giving up the minimum necessary knowledge).



        Please answer how ETA was able to get along with the Unified State Exam ???

        Let's recall both general and higher education: after answering the ticket questions you were definitely asked additional questions, moreover, such that you should have spread your brains a little ...

        But this USE somehow smacks of American comics ...
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 17: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: veksha50
          Please answer how ETA was able to get along with the Unified State Exam ???

          Actually, the exam is a system of testing knowledge, and not a teaching method. The exam itself does not affect the learning process.

          As for me, it would be better to restore the Training and Production Combines (CPC) for training in applied professions, as we had with him and the exam.
        2. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM 16 September 2015 07: 24 New
          +1
          In our military school, we had a very effective training system, where tests and exams were applied very balancedly. After a series of lectures on the topic, we conducted tests, which we jokingly called the "lottery." There were 5 questions on the topic, for each question 5 answers. Already in the early 80s we had an electronic testing system. For all answers - 5 minutes. I got a deuce - a retake in my free time, which is practically nonexistent. If there are debts on the "lottery", then they were not allowed to do term papers, if there were debts on term papers, they were not allowed to attend the session. Debtors remained for extra classes at the weekend. And only then - exams, where teachers in personal contact will test you for logical and abstract thinking, and for everything else. Just in case, they wrote spurs for the whole group, distributed questions, it turned out 6-7 questions per person. Most importantly, on the last day before the exam, everyone went to the board and made a report on their questions. In any case, something was put off in the head of the people and basically the spurs simply did not come in handy, then they were burned in the toilet :). But this could be done in a specialized higher educational institution, but how about something like this to be introduced in schools and civilian universities? I believe that there should be tests and exams. Tests stimulate study during the semester or quarter, and exams also reveal the flexibility of thinking. And the fact that they came up with the exam now is a perversion.

          P.S. It seems to me that the author of the article can safely classify himself as a ninety percent share of graduates of the English school ...
    5. morozik
      morozik 15 September 2015 15: 35 New
      +3
      on the one hand, they set up a saboteur Livanov, on the other hand, they begin to scold the school, as that institution that depresses the person ...
    6. War and Peace
      War and Peace 15 September 2015 15: 38 New
      +2
      no wrong, in the old days, it was so, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL -
      this is the ability to count, read, and knowledge of the foundations of the world and native culture. That's what ALL should know - this is what is called SECONDARY EDUCATION.
      And then specialization
      HUMANITARIES - several areas of knowledge of languages, literature, social studies, history,

      natural sciences.


      EXACT SCIENCES - there are also several areas of mathematics, physics, chemists, engineers. That's right, separated by commas, because the requirements for an engineer are, first of all, building new designs from the knowledge that had already been acquired by previous generations, the ability to use libraries, reference books. And do not clog students-future engineers of what he will use in the future there will be no higher mathematics, differential and integral foundations of calculus, linear mathematics, etc.
      Well and the most important thing is the CONTINUITY that the modern authorities have broken and arranged from our best education in the world - damaging Western standards.
      But all this is broken and in modern life, the school is not interested in the QUALITY of its work, which is why such disturbing articles appear.
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 15 September 2015 19: 06 New
        0
        Quote: war and peace
        EXACT SCIENCES - as well as several areas of mathematics, physics

        Ну what ... Physics, I would not call exact science request .
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 19: 14 New
        0
        Quote: war and peace
        This is what ALL should know - this is what is called SECONDARY EDUCATION.

        It was also eight years old. My older sister finished eight years old and went to another school. where there were grades 9-10. When I went to school a few years later, they all beat for decades.
    7. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 15 September 2015 15: 43 New
      0
      The article is complete nonsense! How to make a person a complete idiot? Tell him that he is so unique, and should not listen to anything from others! So tinky-winky (pakimony) turns out !!! Another idiocy-hear smart "whistlers" and no one else-also get maydowns !! The truth is somewhere in the middle: learn to think and think by comparing!
    8. ava09
      ava09 15 September 2015 15: 46 New
      +4
      "What idiocy," not a recall. Your own style ... I agree, the article is weak, but the author raised a very important topic. At school, it is taught to WORK YOUR HEAD, because it introduces "education" in Bologna ie test system. But this system has one goal: Not to produce social competitors to those in power.
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 15 September 2015 16: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: ava09
        I agree, the article is weak, but the author raised a very important topic.


        Read the entire article carefully. Just talking about 200 year stagnation in education!
    9. antoXa
      antoXa 15 September 2015 18: 51 New
      -1
      wrote September 1, a student of grade 11))))))
    10. Alexander_
      Alexander_ 15 September 2015 19: 09 New
      0
      Presented the version - the Universe could expand with superluminal speed, but inside the Universe the speed is limited. Curious.
    11. Andruxax
      Andruxax 15 September 2015 19: 38 New
      0
      You give a normal narrow-profile education so that you don’t learn too much !!!
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 19: 49 New
        0
        Quote: AndruxaX
        You give a normal narrow-profile education so that you don’t learn too much !!!

        I do not agree. Earth is a study in which we are taught on the gods. And the gods must be developed comprehensively. We need to do good to learn. wink
        1. Andruxax
          Andruxax 15 September 2015 19: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          I do not agree. Earth is a study in which we are taught on the gods. And the gods must be developed comprehensively. We need to do good to learn. wink

          I absolutely disagree with the task of the educational institution to give a person a profession with which he can earn a living. Objects that are not necessary for a person necessarily set him up against an educational institution
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 20: 19 New
            0
            Quote: AndruxaX
            Objects that are not necessary for a person necessarily set him up against an educational institution

            You may not know today what you will need in the future, but I said that it is necessary to change the education system from factual to methodological.

            But what speaks about how education kills creativity, Ken Robinson.

            Sir Ken Robinson (born March 4, 1950) is a book author, speaker, and international adviser on the development of creative thinking, educational systems, and innovation in government and public organizations. He was the director of the School of Art Projects (The Arts in Schools Project; 1985-1989), professor of the Department of Art Education at the University of Warwick (1989-2001) and was knighted in 2003 for his services to education.


            1. Andruxax
              Andruxax 15 September 2015 20: 27 New
              0
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              You may not know today what you will need in the future, but I said that it is necessary to change the education system from factual to methodological.

              In principle, already from the 5 class you can decide on a humanitarian or a technician at least.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 20: 32 New
                0
                You can’t imagine that most of the offices do NOT WORK in the specialty. Yesterday I was riding a minibus with a student, studying at a neuroscientist since I did not enter honey.

                PS And listen to Ken Robinson.
                1. Andruxax
                  Andruxax 15 September 2015 20: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: VseDoFeNi
                  You can’t imagine that most of the offices do NOT WORK in the specialty. Yesterday I was riding a minibus with a student, studying at a neuroscientist since I did not enter honey.

                  PS And listen to Ken Robinson.

                  Well, you know, this is her problem, that she does not work in her specialty. I studied and work in my specialty, but in the process of training they shoved me a lot of items that were unnecessary for work.
                  P.S. Good 20 min and you can listen
                2. Andruxax
                  Andruxax 15 September 2015 21: 28 New
                  0
                  I looked at something in agreement, for example, education with inflation and the fact that everyone should not be equated to one size on the other, on the other hand, he devoted a lot of attention to creative personalities, which is not right. Society needs more uncreative people than creative, and with mistakes. You should not think that mistakes are so normal. It’s better not to do something than to hurt. And the rest will be raked.
                  1. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 06: 52 New
                    0
                    Quote: AndruxaX
                    on the other hand, he devoted a lot of attention to creative personalities

                    Believe me, this is the main thing. And to cut down the forest, it’s not a tricky business ... A narrow specialist in driving nails, a narrow one in tightening screws ...

                    Quote: AndruxaX
                    It’s better not to do something than to hurt.

                    Rabinovich dreamed of winning the lottery all his life. And no way
                    he was unlucky. Then one of the Jewish acquaintances advised him
                    pray about it, the Creator will hear prayers and maybe
                    and send Rabinovich a win. Prayed for several days in a row
                    Rabinovich - nothing. Then one of the Jewish acquaintances said
                    that perhaps he is praying incorrectly. Rabinovich went to study
                    to the yeshiva to learn how to pray. And nothing. Then acquaintances
                    Jews said that maybe he lives wrong? Became Rabinovich
                    the righteous: he did many good deeds, helped the afflicted,
                    He devoted all his free time to the Teaching and prayed earnestly. And nothing.
                    The Jews told him that it’s possible that, having learned and understood so much,
                    does not pass Knowledge to others. Rabinovich had students, and his
                    students - students, people came to him for the Doctrine from far.
                    They began to call him the Rebbe, Teacher. The barren came to him
                    women for blessing - he blessed and they gave birth
                    numerous offspring. He blessed the blind - everyone was seeing
                    as one. With his blessings the earth received rains, and grain growers
                    harvested crops. But always in the far corners of his subconscious he was tormented
                    the thought of winning the lottery. And so, in the holiest fasting, on the Day of Atonement -
                    Yom Kippur - praying for the whole people, at the end of the prayer to Rebbe Rabinovich
                    added this little request of his. And so, the heavens parted, and from there
                    Voice sounded: "Rabinovich! Buy you, finally, a lottery
                    ticket!"
                    1. Andruxax
                      Andruxax 16 September 2015 17: 18 New
                      0
                      Quote: VseDoFeNi
                      Believe me, this is the main thing.

                      How can I believe this, if most of the work does not require creativity? Why do we need a lot of creative personalities if they sit without work. Who will plow the land?
                      On the second: I do not know a joke. But I know there were such Maydans who wanted a better life in Ukraine, and now everyone is slandering. Here's the proof of what is better not to do than to harm, and to disentangle others.
                      1. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 19: 14 New
                        0
                        Quote: AndruxaX
                        How can I believe this, if most of the work does not require creativity? Why do we need a lot of creative personalities if they sit without work. Who will plow the land?

                        You just do not cut. There is innovation, there is innovation, it is a creative approach in their work, whatever it may be. What you advocate is automatisms and biorobots, stupid and thoughtless.
                        Something like this.
                        We are a herd. Millions of us heads.
                        We graze together and bleed together
                        And we do not regret anything in the world.
                        The lamb herd is our destiny.

                        They drive us into the corral - we hurry to the corral.
                        Chasing grazing - we are in a hurry to grazing.
                        Being in a herd is a basic law,
                        And only one thing is scary - to fall out of the herd.

                        When the time comes, they cut us.
                        Why cut? We do not understand this.
                        But they cut everyone. Where to go here
                        Although this procedure is extremely unpleasant.

                        And shepherds have been given power over us,
                        They said that by the will of the sorcerer.
                        And we live without knowing those tyrants
                        What turned us into rams!

                        Ah, how juicy the crisp grass is in the pasture!
                        How cold the water in babbling streams!
                        Why do we need to know about the wiles of witchcraft,
                        When the dream in the shady thickets is so sweet ...

                        Yes, the shepherd’s whip whips on the sides.
                        Well of that: keep up with the herd!
                        And the corrals have a solid fence.
                        And the shepherds vigilantly guard us!

                        But yesterday, two rams disappeared ...
                        The shepherds did not help them.
                        The shepherds themselves ate them, and the wolves would be to blame.
                        But the herd doesn't give a damn about the brothers, "from the top shelf."

                        We are a herd. Millions of us heads.
                        Come swaying the curls.
                        We are not afraid of the tricks of sorcerers.
                        We are rams. Do what you want with us!


                        So.
                        Abstract:
                        Of all forms of tyranny, the most terrible is the tyranny of stupidity. Firstly, because we keep it in ourselves, and secondly, because it is the basis of all other tyrannies. With it we torment not only those around us, but ourselves as well. Why this happens is explained in this book.Based on the facts, it turns out that humanity is getting stupid sharply, but how then to understand the rapid development of engineering and technology? There is no contradiction, since this progress moves due to the narrow specialization of professional activityand the tyranny of stupidity is the falling ability of people to meaningfully react to changes, not even of life, but just of social life. We are talking about the general cultural level of mankind - the ability of a person to use not only the knowledge of his narrow specialty, but all the accumulated knowledge of mankind, even in their principal form. The author offers an extremely simple way to overthrow the tyranny of stupidity without revolutionary upheavals and civil war.


                        That is, you stand for universal stupidity.

                        Quote: AndruxaX
                        Here's the proof of what is better not to do than to harm, and to disentangle others.
                        Sure, it's better not to live. And do not give birth. Suddenly something goes wrong. fool laughing
                      2. Andruxax
                        Andruxax 16 September 2015 22: 31 New
                        -1
                        Che is too much emotion, but little practicality. Look to eat, drink and buy things you need for life, you need money, to get money you need to earn, to work you need knowledge and skills - this is a simple realistic chain, not rhymes. Being a comprehensively developed creative person is not necessary at all. I don’t mind who wants to let him strive, but leave me with this crap without fail. am
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        Sure, it's better not to live. And do not give birth. Suddenly something goes wrong.

                        Too far-fetched. Do not confuse what humanity cannot live without, and unnecessary harmful erroneous activity.
                        Quote: VseDoFeNi
                        We are a herd. Millions of us heads.
                        Come swaying the curls.
                        We are not afraid of the tricks of sorcerers.
                        We are rams. Do what you want with us!

                        Life is not a fairy tale. And without the so-called “shepherds,” the so-called “herd” of you will generally disappear.
                        And the fact that the shepherds themselves ate the lamb so it was probably bad to butt the oppositionist probably climbed.
                      3. VseDoFeNi
                        VseDoFeNi 17 September 2015 06: 26 New
                        0
                        Quote: AndruxaX
                        I'm not against whoever wants to let him strive, but leave me with this crap without fail.

                        I had one friend, he talked about such people: we can’t read, we can’t write, but let's eat and eat.



                        On this note I finish the conversation.
                      4. Andruxax
                        Andruxax 17 September 2015 13: 30 New
                        0
                        Cool cartoon, though I didn’t understand what type of animal or biosombie I had, but it was healthy, thanks !! good
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        3. Tatyana
          Tatyana 15 September 2015 23: 01 New
          +3
          AndruxaX (2)
          In principle, already from the 5 class you can decide on a humanitarian or a technician at least.

          Not certainly in that way.
          Some teachers already do not develop in elementary school, but they ruin, first of all, precisely future technicians.
          With my own ears I heard, for example, the following.
          There is a math lesson in the 1 class. Passed the number 10.
          The teacher says: “Here are the children, we have passed ALL the numbers (!) In mathematics” And then she calls them: “One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine - and that’s all!”
          Firstly, where is “zero”?
          Secondly. She called numbers (!), Instead of numbers. The numbers are called so: unit, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven, eight, nine and ZERO (!) The numbers are written in numbers in the same way that letters spell words. In children immediately with such teaching there is a difficulty with mathematics.
          With this quality of profane - wrecking (!) - teaching, the teacher forever discourages students from elementary school the desire to study mathematics and then to the technical sciences, turning them into humanities.
          In the 5th class, we see, as a rule, already a consequence of profaning instruction from teachers, and not the ability of the children themselves.
          1. Andruxax
            Andruxax 15 September 2015 23: 53 New
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            AndruxaX (2)
            In principle, already from the 5 class you can decide on a humanitarian or a technician at least.

            Not certainly in that way.
            Some teachers already do not develop in elementary school, but they ruin, first of all, precisely future technicians.
            With my own ears I heard, for example, the following.
            There is a math lesson in the 1 class. Passed the number 10.
            The teacher says: “Here are the children, we have passed ALL the numbers (!) In mathematics” And then she calls them: “One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine - and that’s all!”
            Firstly, where is “zero”?
            Secondly. She called numbers (!), Instead of numbers. The numbers are called so: unit, two, three, four, five, six, seven, seven, eight, nine and ZERO (!) The numbers are written in numbers in the same way that letters spell words. In children immediately with such teaching there is a difficulty with mathematics.
            With this quality of profane - wrecking (!) - teaching, the teacher forever discourages students from elementary school the desire to study mathematics and then to the technical sciences, turning them into humanities.
            In the 5th class, we see, as a rule, already a consequence of profaning instruction from teachers, and not the ability of the children themselves.

            Well, you’re right, such a teacher can do harm, but what kind of a way out you propose.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 16 September 2015 01: 28 New
              +2
              Andruxax
              Well, you’re right, such a teacher can do harm, but what kind of a way out you propose.

              It is necessary to restore the inspectors' service at the RONO in its previous form, which daily inspected the work of teachers in the classroom lesson and which was liquidated in 1986 on the initiative of the teachers themselves. For the certification of the teacher and his salary depended on the teacher’s performance as an inspector. And not from how the teachers themselves praise themselves. After all, none of the adults sees the true picture of what is happening in the classroom - the teacher in the classroom is alone with only the children. All his quality of work depends on his civic conscience and personal pedagogical skills.
              For a very long time, the parent community sought to restore the inspector system in RONO. The inspector system itself was restored not so long ago, but not in the sense of the inspectors daily attending lessons at the school during the school year, but only according to the teachers ’reporting papers at the end of the school year.
              In general, the inspectors were returned, but the official functions of the inspectors themselves were emasculated. At the same time, taxpayer money is thrown to the wind, the bureaucratic apparatus is expanding, but there is no effect. This is done consciously by the very same teacher corps.
              1. Bort radist
                Bort radist 16 September 2015 04: 02 New
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                It is necessary to restore the service of inspectors at RONO in its previous form, which daily inspected the work of teachers

                In Finland, RONO (regulatory authority) is absent. Considered the best education in this country. Control slaves who do not want to work.
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 07: 07 New
                  0
                  Quote: Bort Radist
                  Control slaves who do not want to work.

                  We live in a global slave civilization. Man was not born to make money and pay taxes.
                  "No slavery is more hopeless than slavery without slaves, whoever considers himself free from the shackles." Goethe.

                  Quote: Demon Kratias.

                  Slowly the slaves walked one after another, and each carried a polished stone. Four ranks, each one and a half kilometers long, from stonecutters to the place where the construction of the fortified city began, were guarded by guards. A dozen slaves relied on one armed guard warrior.
                  Apart from the walking slaves, at the top of a XNUMX-meter-high man-made mountain of polished stones sat Kratius - one of the high priests; for four months silently watched what was happening. No one distracted him, no one, even with a look, dared to interrupt his thoughts. Slaves and guards perceived an artificial mountain with a throne on top
                  .
                  .
                  .
                  And so they run through millennia, in dust, sweating, sweating heavy stones. And today, the descendants of those slaves continue their meaningless run.

                  http://inoskaz.com/pritchi/pritcha-demon-kratij/
                2. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 16 September 2015 13: 31 New
                  0
                  Dear Bort Radist!
                  Bort radist
                  In Finland, RONO (regulatory authority) is absent. Considered the best education in this country. Control slaves who do not want to work.

                  1. Who counts?
                  2. How long does today's Finnish education compare with education in other countries? For example, with Russian or Soviet?
                  In Soviet times, Soviet education was in fact the best in the world.
                  3. That teachers are not “slaves” now, this is basically true. Teachers in the current market environment now gentlemen, traders of educational services who dictate their terms to parents for the sale of knowledge to their children.
                  All these questions are deeper than they seem at first - superficial - look.
              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 07: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Tatiana
                For certification of the teacher and his salary depended on the teacher’s performance as an inspector.

                That is why I say that it is wrong to throw children at people who go to work for money, and not strangers (ours) of your children. Moreover, many teachers have big problems with their own children.

                The same goes for health.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 15 September 2015 20: 50 New
    +1
    The hackneyed topic is why excellent students do not really succeed in adulthood than the threes. Because knowledge of school curricula does not give you answers to the question about the meaning of life, the existence of God, the questions of good and evil, and your destiny. Undoubtedly, the latest updated knowledge about the laws of the World is necessary for the formation of an adult, mathematics, physics, chemistry, geography, history, knowledge of the native language and culture, but it is not necessary to study it too deeply to the detriment of general development. For example, when an excellent pupil cramps homework, the three-man plays fun in the yard with other guys, developing communication, and she decides a lot in life, also while the excellent nerd is sitting in the laboratory, the three-year-old devotes more time to physical education, and later the girls do well with the three-year-olds extensive experience in the yard.

    What I want to say, basically, the school prepares making excellent students - obedient performers, hired slaves who are ready to work for a salary. Look at billionaires and millionaires, are there many excellent students among them? Consciousness and the ability to "fumble" does not depend on whether a person studied at school well or poorly, and on how much he knows how to set a goal and go to it, successful people leave rebels and disagree with generally accepted norms, those who know how to strive for a dream who have an alternative point of view. Obedient people vegetate in agreement with everyone and in everything, including their life. Therefore, they are of no use to them, they are not capable of revolution.

    So basically everything is forged at home, in education, it is necessary, as the author put it correctly, to teach the child self-education, so that while gaining knowledge he can ask uncomfortable questions, which he looked for answers if they are not there, matured according to nature, played when he was a child, talked and fought with the boys, he was friends, walked with girls and so on and so that the school does not interfere with this, and everything will be the way. Basically it all depends on the father, the son looks and copies it, if the father is a bukharik and a loser, then the son can become like that, and if a normal man teaches the correct philosophy of life, parental support is the main component of the child’s success, in his confidence in his forces, and the principle of the life of parents is the main basis of the religious views of the child, will he have a conscience or not.
    1. w3554152
      w3554152 19 September 2015 09: 26 New
      -1
      Quote: Max_Bauder
      Look at billionaires and millionaires, are there many excellent students among them?


      Makvrodi, Berezovsky, and others at school were precisely Ottomans. But miracles have been done that hiccups today.
  • mervino2007
    mervino2007 15 September 2015 21: 52 New
    +5
    Quote: Denis_469
    At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads.

    Yes, it should be so. And the article talks about this. But the main thing: "our pedagogy is designed to destroy individuality." Sounds like the truth. The school is engaged in leveling children. The school curriculum is complicated and overloaded. Her requirements are to know the specifics that few people need. Squandering your study time in vain, with microscopic returns. Although a good acquaintance with a certain knowledge base is necessary. The questions of teaching a particular subject should be posed so that a natural desire arises to find out what is next (?) .....
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 15 September 2015 22: 50 New
      0
      Quote: mervino2007
      And the article talks about this. But the main thing: "our pedagogy is designed to destroy individuality." Sounds like the truth.

      You know - if there is an individuality, then it cannot be destroyed. It can be muffled. And nothing more. And what
      Quote: mervino2007
      The school curriculum is complicated and overloaded. Her requirements are to know the specifics that few people need.
      So in the USSR, the program was even more overloaded. Nevertheless, I was still at school, in addition to the school curriculum, doing my own chronicle of submarine attacks. The children's brain is very adaptive to loads.
      Quote: mervino2007
      Her requirements are to know the specifics that few people need. Squandering your study time in vain, with microscopic returns. Although a good acquaintance with a certain knowledge base is necessary. The questions of teaching a particular subject should be posed so that a natural desire arises to find out what is next (?) .....

      When children are taught at school, no one knows what is useful to anyone in life. After school, a person should be able to develop in any direction. that knowledge that is not needed in life will then be forgotten. And new ones will come instead. But after school there should be a basis for the development of people in any direction. Even if the basic one.
  • yastr
    yastr 16 September 2015 13: 46 New
    0
    I would supplement you a little: at school and high school they teach to work with literature.
  • kachurov2015
    kachurov2015 16 September 2015 21: 30 New
    0
    Before high school
  • oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 15 September 2015 14: 45 New
    -3
    NOT an article, but sheer pessimism and despondency. From the category of "putinsil."
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 15: 13 New
      +11
      Quote: oleg-gr
      From the category of "putinsil."

      Not putinslig, but 200 years ago.
      I am sure that 99,99% of people will not remember without Google and Yandex what is:
      zygote, glycogen, gimlet rule, Ohm's law for a chain section, Pascal's law, what distinguishes a haploid set from a diploid set, and so on, and the like.
      1. Altona
        Altona 15 September 2015 15: 30 New
        +7
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Not putinslig, but 200 years ago.
        I am sure that 99,99% of people will not remember without Google and Yandex what is:
        zygote, glycogen, gimlet rule, Ohm's law for a chain section, Pascal's law, what distinguishes a haploid set from a diploid set, and so on, and the like.

        ------------------
        You have correctly noticed ... They are trying to give too much knowledge that will not be in demand in the future ... And it may make sense not to give all people an extensive amount of knowledge, for some still 4 classes are enough for someone, and for one there is little institute ... But the point is that people need to develop creativity, and not ride on rails of templates ...
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 16: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Altona
          They are trying to give too much knowledge that will not be in demand in the future ...
          This is not even the point. The point is the algorithms of the brain. For example, there are a bunch of completely normal engineers who are not able to cook their own meals. There are artists, poets and composers, but they manage to write paintings, poems and music, but not the fact that they are able to balance the balance ...

          Quote: Altona
          But the point is that people need to develop creativity, and not ride on rails of templates ..

          That's right. There is such a versatile person Vitaly Sundakov, and so he says that we do not create, but do it. smile
          1. Altona
            Altona 15 September 2015 17: 37 New
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            This is not even the point. The point is the algorithms of the brain. For example, there are a bunch of completely normal engineers who are not able to cook their own meals. There are artists, poets and composers, but they manage to write paintings, poems and music, but not the fact that they are able to balance the balance ...

            ----------------------
            If you go into cooking like engineering, then you can cook it ... In general, the simplest dish is soup, cook meat for an hour or so, vegetables for 20-30 minutes, sour vegetables, carrots, onions, beets, it’s better to lightly fry ... The soup is ready when the meat is cooked ... That’s the whole technology for the soup, for example ... With the pictures about the same thing, the main subject is drawn in the center, the secondary one from the back ... I certainly simplify, but derive algorithms for the implementation of their ideas is quite possible ...
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 18: 22 New
              0
              Quote: Altona
              Of course, I simplify, but it is quite possible to derive algorithms for implementing my ideas ...

              EMNIP Pauli, a wonderful physicist theorist was no practitioner.

              A meat borscht can be cooked from scratch in half an hour, but in 4 vessels. yes
              1. Altona
                Altona 16 September 2015 11: 03 New
                -1
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                A meat borscht can be cooked from scratch in half an hour, but in 4 vessels.

                --------------------------
                For half an hour Uzbeks in the army manage to cook 5 dishes, including the same borsch ... laughing
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 16: 53 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Altona
                  For half an hour Uzbeks in the army manage to cook 5 dishes, including the same borsch ..

                  In one cauldron? belay
        2. Walking
          Walking 15 September 2015 16: 49 New
          -1
          For all the time of my life, service, I did not need many of the knowledge gained at school.
          1. Altona
            Altona 15 September 2015 17: 45 New
            +3
            Quote: Hiking
            For all the time of my life, service, I did not need many of the knowledge gained at school.

            -------------------------
            On the contrary, school knowledge always comes in handy ... I probably can’t help but write the chemical equation, but the fat on my hands is completely eliminated with a slice of lemon, as well as lime scale scum on a teapot — neutralization reactions. The law of leverage is also used for lifting weights, mathematics itself, both algebra and geometry ... It’s autumn now, Drosophila midges fly, so somewhere sour lies, for example, rotting apples, berries or vegetables ... I can give many examples, post is not enough ...
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 15 September 2015 16: 38 New
        0
        Sherlock Holmes also did not remember, the Earth revolves around the Sun or vice versa.
        1. skifd
          skifd 15 September 2015 20: 10 New
          0
          Damn, gentlemen, on XP, then "sopromat" passed ... wassat laughing
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 20: 29 New
            +2
            Quote: skifd
            Damn, gentlemen, on XP, then "sopromat" passed ... wassat laughing

            The world, in general, is a funny thing. what
            Here a man goes to school, college, studies sopromat and then bam and ...
            Quote: Oksana Aistova

            A man runs through life without sparing his legs.
            Home is work, home is work, serving time.
            Weekend - respite, vacation, like a halt.
            Old age, pension, shortness of breath, did you run here?
            Maybe you initially chose the wrong route?
            At seven in the morning getting up, boss, do everyone all live like that?
            Someone sees the sun, the stars, why not you?
            Leadership, production - not to beauty.
            Never breathe freely, struggle every day
            Over the edge of retirement. You say: "Fate."
            Maybe if you meekly accept it.
            Soul puffing sleeping pills, fall into oblivion.
            In the soap suds of rainbow TV series to look for,
            Believing in old age is beginning and quietly waiting.
            Wait for the legs of your children to get stronger.
            On the trodden path they run now.
            Are you born for this? And behind this lived?
            Happiness waited, dreamed, studied, believed and loved?
            If not, then, perhaps, its slowed down.
            And start your journey from the beginning - a new person.
  • Goga101
    Goga101 15 September 2015 14: 47 New
    0
    Livanov kanechna bastard ... but the school system itself and then what? The author of something wrong "smoked" at recess
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 15 September 2015 14: 56 New
      +2
      Nonsense. Well, now everyone drop out of school and run home? belay
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 15 September 2015 15: 03 New
        +10
        Not. Do not run away from home, as well as not run to private schools (remember about private kindergartens - hair moves). It is necessary to recall all the Soviet developments, adapt them to modern reality and finally stop launching the advanced "experimental training programs." They found on whom to put experiments on children with unformed thinking and psyche.
        First of all, two tasks need to be solved:
        1. Qualified teaching staff
        2. A unified system of education throughout the country so that a child moving with parents from district to district within the same city, let alone various cities, can calmly join the learning process, rather than feel like a complete nerd.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 15 September 2015 15: 57 New
          +2
          Quote: Corsair0304
          First of all, two tasks need to be solved:
          1. Qualified teaching staff
          2. A unified system of training nationwide
          ,



          I could not resist, except for the plus, I decided to clap my hands ...
        2. Mother Theresa
          Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 16: 10 New
          0
          Unfortunately, the teaching staff intensified began to degrade even under the USSR, the teaching profession has ceased to be prestigious and respected in society.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 15 September 2015 15: 13 New
      +4
      Quote: Goga101
      Livanov kanechna bastard.

      laughing 28th second.
      Quote: Goga101
      The author of something wrong "smoked" at recess

      Not at break, but instead of lessons! laughing
  • B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 15 September 2015 14: 49 New
    0
    The article is similar to an advertisement of out-of-school education and, in general, complete nonsense.
    1. Mother Theresa
      Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 15: 16 New
      +3
      In the USSR, an excellent system of extracurricular education for circles, sections, etc. was built. Where children went more willingly than to school.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 15 September 2015 15: 35 New
        +6
        Quote: Mother Teresa
        Where children went more willingly than to school.

        So we were interested in doing something with our own hands.
        Now people have been told that everything can be bought by taking a loan in order to live on credit. Which in itself is stupid.
        1. Mother Theresa
          Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 16: 13 New
          +2
          In this, the whole snag of the teacher is not interested in what would interest the student, carry away instill a love for the subject. They are interested in classroom performance and order.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 07: 15 New
            0
            Quote: Mother Teresa
            In this, the whole snag of the teacher is not interested in what would interest the student, carry away instill a love for the subject. They are interested in classroom performance and order.

            Does the word "LAND" tell you anything?
            1. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 16 September 2015 07: 37 New
              0
              You are about the reforms of Alexander II.
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 16 September 2015 07: 50 New
                0
                I'm talking about Zemstvo doctors and teachers. As well as about the idea of ​​zemstvos-TOS.
                We must live for the sake of people, and not for the sake of money and other crap.

                1. Mother Theresa
                  Mother Theresa 16 September 2015 11: 41 New
                  0
                  I got the opinion that we do not understand each other.
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    2. alicante11
      alicante11 15 September 2015 15: 36 New
      +2
      The article is similar to an advertisement of out-of-school education and, in general, complete nonsense.


      Well, someone is seriously pushing for further education projects. And at school, it can only be tutoring and, of course, paid. So, dear parents, in friendly ranks we bring our money to tutors, and for the rest we celebrate commemoration of "free education". That is exactly what the minobr is counting on.
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 September 2015 14: 51 New
    +10
    Quote: Denis_469
    ... teach not so much knowledge as how to work with one’s own head.


    Unfortunately, the introduced exam system does not already teach this. It was introduced at a time when everything Western was considered good.

    Amer’s part of the population now does not know that the Earth revolves around the Sun; thinks that the first astronaut is Shepard; that the Second World War is an epic duel of the USA against Hitler (with a minor episode in which some unknown USSR participated).
    1. Denis_469
      Denis_469 15 September 2015 15: 06 New
      +1
      I graduated from school in Russia in 1993. But he studied under the Soviet program. Therefore, he said what we were taught then.
  • Kolka82
    Kolka82 15 September 2015 14: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: B.T.W.
    The article is similar to an advertisement of out-of-school education and, in general, complete nonsense.

    I totally agree good And someone will explain what kind of extracurricular education - the certificate will also be extracurricular? what
    1. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 15 September 2015 15: 06 New
      +6
      By the way, Lomonosov also received an out-of-school education. Well, if you have a head on your shoulders. And diplomas currently do not play a special role, now universities come either in money or in knowledge, and about getting a job after a university - in general, a separate song. I met with such diplomats stupid, only given a marvel.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 15 September 2015 16: 02 New
        +1
        Quote: Corsair0304
        I met with such diplomas stupid, only a marvel was given.



        This is not the point ... there were such things in the USSR ... however, without a diploma you won’t go anywhere, even if you have any knowledge in your head ...

        And the above example of Mikhail Lomonosov is a completely different story and reality ... Why then didn’t they drag Leonardo da Vinci? Both the one and the other had so much knowledge, or — it would be better to say — self-knowledge that so far no such gifted people have been seen around ...

        And because the circle and volume of knowledge has expanded greatly, and it is thanks precisely to such people ...
  • metanik
    metanik 15 September 2015 14: 57 New
    +9
    The writer himself has no idea, and even the distant, which was taught, and excellent, until 1970. Further - TODAY the primary school children last year ALL, without exception, decided to exam for graduates. How failed graduates - is well known.
    So the less educated the leadership will be in education, starting with the ministry, the fewer such "well-wishers" will change everything - there will be at least some chance to return at least a mediocre, I’m silent about secondary education.
    Reference - the average graduate of the 8th grade of 1970 knew more than today's average graduate of the university. This, of course, is about general, not highly specialized knowledge.
    So - get ready for the new dark ages - now about 30% are functionally illiterate, and from this year they are changing to "modernized", and the junior classes program. They will no longer be able to solve even the senseless tasks of the exam.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 15 September 2015 15: 03 New
      0
      Quote: metanik
      The writer himself has no idea, and even the distant, which was taught, and excellent, until 1970.


      The most interesting thing is that following the links, I did not find the author of this "masterpiece".
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 15 September 2015 16: 08 New
        -1
        Quote: B.T.W.
        The most interesting thing is that following the links, I did not find the author of this "masterpiece".


        Pop Gapon ...
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 15 September 2015 16: 19 New
        +7
        I graduated from high school in 1968. We already studied both old and new textbooks, and we didn’t have textbooks in some subjects. The reform of the school began in 10. It seems to me that it will never end. The article is polemical, not in that’s the essence of who the author is, but I consider part of the questions raised in the article both relevant and topical. First, our children are weaned from school and knowledge. My grandson went to preparatory class for two years, he was interested there. The kindergarten ended, the long-awaited school, can’t you recognize the month of the grandson? What’s the reason, he’s silent. Somehow he got him offended at school and the teacher became the bullying initiator. She didn’t like the lively, mobile boy. Two blows with a verbal hammer and the whole kid is broken. Now about the exam. The exam doesn’t teach you to think and all our education doesn’t teach you to think. And corsair1966 metanik is right that this education system prepares stupid performers who don’t think about the consequences of the decisions made. And I completely agree with corsar0304 that they come upits who for five years only unfastened money or dads studied for them. But talented guys came only half-educated. Moreover, in those disciplines that are needed in production and are rather difficult to study. Such as the organization of the technical process, the organization and equipment of workplaces. You ask why do not know? And in response, no one taught us this. Although at school, it was canceled on works in high school. And a number of commentators correctly say that the current system does not teach anything. It does not teach the main thing to think independently and work independently. Yes, but school or extracurricular education it’s a matter of everyone’s taste. There are pros and cons to each type of training.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 15 September 2015 21: 34 New
          +1
          Soglsen is almost complete. Only in the offer
          Quote: Amurets
          school or extracurricular education is a matter of taste
          would replace one word. I don't think this thing tasterather, opportunities. Suppose I don’t have the opportunity to give my child an extracurricular education that would be better school, why do I need to definitely prefer the out-of-school option? But the author suggests not to be “loaded” with this issue.
          give a child a happy life, without hesitation, take him out of school
          What is the author’s unwavering belief that Any out-of-school training of children is better than school, it remained incomprehensible to me. To prepare for the exam and for some other additional means of control, anyway, as I understand it, is necessary. You can do this in many ways, but first you need to at least make sure if there are some among them that turn out to be even worse than school ones in terms of developing the desire for knowledge, a voluminous vision of the world, and the ability to think. Is each parent capable of such a comparative analysis and responsible decision? I think no. Then it is not clear to whom this call is made to save children from the "corruptive influence of the school." The article leaves a double impression.
  • iohanson
    iohanson 15 September 2015 14: 59 New
    0
    All right. One could supplement the list with physical inactivity and so on.
  • shurik-063
    shurik-063 15 September 2015 15: 03 New
    +4
    The school teaches the basics. The institute is taught to work independently. I remember they give a course subject and you already find the material you need (literature, manuals, etc.).
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 15 September 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      Quote: shurik-063
      The institute is taught to work independently


      In high school, at least earlier, they also taught independent work with material (abstracts, reports).
    2. Corsair0304
      Corsair0304 15 September 2015 15: 10 New
      +5
      In times when you studied, perhaps. And now - the Internet is driving .. Sensitive teachers download a program that compares coursework texts on the Internet and gives% how much of the given studio work is directly delivered. And on the basis of this, a mark or offset is set.
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 15 September 2015 15: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: Corsair0304
        And now - the Internet is driving ..


        Indeed, the "Internet rules." I found this “article” from the links on vospitaj.com. The impression is that this is a grant site, and the telephone code of the telecom operator is Kiev Star. Talking about something ?!
  • Idunavs
    Idunavs 15 September 2015 15: 04 New
    +6
    Yes, you need to return the Soviet method of education, it was better than right now and this is a fact. (I have children studying at school and I have never seen such nonsense before, most textbooks are written by Americans)
    1. w3554152
      w3554152 19 September 2015 09: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Idunawa
      better than right now


      There is no such word "right now" in Russian. How many classes are behind you?
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 15 September 2015 15: 04 New
    +3
    Dear grandparents, moms and dads, if someone has the opportunity to transfer a child to an out-of-school education, give the child a happy life without hesitation, take him out of school.
    Who then will work at work if everyone will sit at home and teach children? Homes will grow domestic, bully, unprepared people in society.
  • cap54
    cap54 15 September 2015 15: 05 New
    +1
    The article put a bold minus !!! The author in the studio !!! After all, he himself studied both at school and at the institute ... he got a good education, since he squeezes such articles, but advocates the elimination of school education ... I don’t understand ... Of course, not everything in the education system is alright, something must be changed of course it is necessary, but not to chop off the shoulder !!!
  • KRIG55
    KRIG55 15 September 2015 15: 09 New
    +4
    A very strange and harmful article. Of course, the education system must keep pace with the times, but the thoughtless implementation of a moronic education system for an exceptional nation will really lead us to the fact that schools will graduate 90% of idiots, and even paid universities and all 100%.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 15 September 2015 15: 24 New
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      Quote: KRIG55
      Very strange and harmful article.

      go to the source site and immediately everything will fall into place
  • zlideny
    zlideny 15 September 2015 15: 12 New
    +4
    someone agrees, someone disagrees with this article, the man expressed his vision and well done even here in the comments a different vision. so it should be. and my opinion is that the conspiracy and the words of Alain Dulles continue to be implemented by the enemies slowly but surely from the Russians everyone wants to make a herd of fools who can be controlled. and it all starts from school The king was probably building a school on every far farm. and where is the school people stayed there. Now, in the villages of the school, first-aid posts were closed, where people were gone. The village was empty, there was no education, no medicine, no. Here are the words of the CIA director and they came true.
  • vsdvs
    vsdvs 15 September 2015 15: 12 New
    +4
    I graduated from high school in 1970. My son - in 1997, daughter - in 1999. Now grandchildren have gone. I can compare. The school is getting worse. (True, my grandchildren went to an Orthodox school - they are more like teaching us. It's about public schools.) Just because the school is bad now does not mean that the school is not needed at all. Need a good school. And at home - this is not a school. Remember the famous phrase that the rural teacher won the Great Patriotic War!
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 15 September 2015 17: 43 New
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      Quote: vsdvs
      Remember the famous phrase that the rural teacher won the Great Patriotic War!


      Well, even 70 years earlier, Bismarck said that "the Prussian school teacher won the Franco-Prussian war."
    2. Weyland
      Weyland 15 September 2015 17: 43 New
      0
      Quote: vsdvs
      Remember the famous phrase that the rural teacher won the Great Patriotic War!


      Well, even 70 years earlier, Bismarck said that "the Prussian school teacher won the Franco-Prussian war."
  • htlernjh
    htlernjh 15 September 2015 15: 12 New
    +6
    Hard to disagree. From the height of my 48 years, I can say for sure that neither at the institute nor at school it turned out I was never taught to think in images, to look for solutions, to make decisions. Now I look at my daughter and see that everything is the same. However, she is not the worst student. He tries, but ... yesterday they solved a simple problem: if you put a sunflower seed between two sheets of paper and squeeze it. Dark spots appear on the paper. Question: what is in these spots? what substance? . So she demanded an answer from me. But she herself didn’t want to think and find a SOLUTION. Knowledge stuck in a software vice does not teach to think. So what I came to 48 years old, I had to come in 12-18 years old. Adult teachers should teach me this. For this, in fact, they study at institutes. But later I studied at the pedagogical institute. Unfortunately, the same approach is there: thinking is not taken into account by knowledge, its sources, it is forced to memorize, only the degree of serration of this knowledge by pupils (students) is asked. And most importantly: the assessment is given precisely for the degree of serration, and not for Cognition and Understanding of the topic. Therefore, then when a person comes to the hospital and he is diagnosed with coronary heart disease, and he really just has a neurosis in the chest, then there is nothing surprising in this not. Who and how the doctor taught, we all know ...
  • ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 15 September 2015 15: 13 New
    +7
    A lot has already been said about the fact that the author is extremely wrong.
    I want to add that the author also juggles, if not lying. As an example:

    "Modern science has proven that a child learns effectively only when it is mistaken."

    Not this way. A child learns effectively not when he makes mistakes, but when he finds and corrects mistakes. Broadly speaking, he overcomes obstacles.
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem 15 September 2015 15: 13 New
    +3
    The article is utter nonsense. The author, apparently, believes that children should not be taught at all. Let them play (60-70 years of commercials), and then a pension (maybe) and a cemetery. Then the “losers” will become not 90%, but 100500%. Who is interested in learning the multiplication table, for example? AND? And without these basics, to study mathematics, algebra, geometry ... there is no sense at all. And the dates of history and personality? Here, if you have not LEARNED, then the meaning of studying, comprehending the past of your ancestors becomes BREADY.
    The author "-" for "brains on one side"!
  • sa-zz
    sa-zz 15 September 2015 15: 14 New
    +2
    I disagree with the author in almost everything. Not a school brings up these children, but people like Livanov.
    Theoretical physicist, married to the daughter of the rector, his curator, provided with forced career growth. Modernizer M.L. education.
    In December 2012, Livanov criticized the law prohibiting US citizens from adopting Russian orphans.
    In 1990-1992 he studied at the graduate school of MISiS, while working abroad under the experience exchange program.No one biography of Livanov does not mention where he worked abroad during his "studies" in graduate school.
    There is no FSB on him !!
  • Platon Mironov
    Platon Mironov 15 September 2015 15: 17 New
    -1
    The article is completely absurd !!! The formation of each "little man" begins with a family. Parents put initial knowledge into the child, and the school only improves them. The desire for knowledge is inherent in every child, regardless of his origin. At school, the child receives communication skills in a team that will be useful to him for the rest of his life. The dead end of the school system is, in my opinion, the modern ill-conceived reforms-reforms of this system themselves, and not the rejection of the school system. Apparently, the author of this article does not have his own children and discusses this firsthand ...
  • Svetlana
    Svetlana 15 September 2015 15: 19 New
    +5
    A few reasons why school is bad
    - quote from the article.
    There is only one reason why school is bad today. It is that it is modern, i.e. translates into a modern Western style of teaching children, which leads to the complete degradation of man. It is necessary to return the old classical Russian school, and this modern harmful one - to destroy it in the bud.
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 15 September 2015 15: 32 New
      +6
      Gavel, Light!
      In our youth, I remember, the first new textbooks appeared ..
      Someone was showing off .. and the children were injured: when there was something incomprehensible in physics, geometry, algebra in the new textbook - I took out my father's Stalinist yellowed books .. and everything was painted there ... Even the teacher was not needed .
      The problem, of course, is the new education policy.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 15 September 2015 16: 48 New
        +4
        Thra-ta-ta! These are not Stalin's old textbooks, but the famous textbooks that Lenin, Stalin studied, and even that little things were studied by gymnasium students and realists and not one generation of Soviet children. And you held in your hands the famous textbooks Mathematics Kiseleva and Physics Pyoryshkin . I don’t remember the authors of other textbooks, but how sad it was when they were canceled in 1965. And we finished grades 9-10 with virtually no textbooks, they simply weren’t.
  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 15 September 2015 15: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: Mother Teresa
    I recall the teaching “corps” in my school of the 70-80s, foreign fashion magazines, the pursuit of clothes and scarcity, the complete admiration of the West and the longing that we all live in this dull scoop.


    And then, the generation of our parents betrayed us all. It forgot why all this and why. Us, the generation that was born in the 80s. Instead of trying to change the “dull scoop” around us, to change the country for which our grandfathers were dying, who built the best scientific school of the planet, was the first in space, nuclear technology, industry - they sold their souls to the West. And just then the USSR fell. And then we, the unborn children of our parents, were doomed to live in a wild, corrupt parody of the capitalist west.

    Once my grandfather, a veteran, said: "We didn’t defend this country, but another, which is no longer there and which my children destroyed with their own hands. They overlooked, under-educated."
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 15 September 2015 22: 08 New
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      Quote: Lumumba
      And then, the generation of our parents betrayed us all. It forgot why all this and why. ... they sold their souls to the west
      Since I relate specifically to this generation, which in the 80s created families and gave birth to children, I want to answer you. Blaming something the entire generation of Chokh, indiscriminately - this is how to blame some people - a sign of a narrow mind. Among all generations and peoples there are completely different people. And in this case, since you blame primarily your own parents, this is also a sign of bad manners.
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  • Million
    Million 15 September 2015 15: 20 New
    0
    if someone has the opportunity to transfer the child to an out-of-school education - give the child a happy life, without hesitation, take him out of school.

    how do you imagine that?
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 15 September 2015 15: 21 New
    +1
    A modern education system is imprisoned for narrow-profile specialists to solve the problems of big business. Diversified development is not welcome. Costs of the Bologna education system (this system is aimed at executing robots) It is time to roll back (at least partially) to the education system of the late USSR. Otherwise, we will lose entire generations completely In the 90s, youngsters were brought up with permissiveness by a porno openly and by a buck so now we are reaping the benefits in terms of the general culture and literacy of those who are in the region of 30-35 years old (a good example in Samara in a shop ** Pyaterochka ** About 35 year old booby knocked out an old lady with a blow in the jaw and if it weren’t for public resonance, there would be nothing
  • sledge
    sledge 15 September 2015 15: 21 New
    -1
    What did the author smoke?
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 15 September 2015 15: 22 New
    -1
    As the majority was indignant.
    "complete absurdity, utter nonsense, idiocy"
    And indignant, just about 9 out of 10. Because all the graduates of this system.
    The author is almost right in everything.
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 15 September 2015 15: 42 New
      -1
      you are an ignoramus old man. of those who would show off against the tide. probably a selfie player?
    2. Platon Mironov
      Platon Mironov 15 September 2015 15: 45 New
      +1
      Have you studied at an intergalactic high school on the planet Mars? The definition of the author of the article: “school-evil” includes all educational institutions on planet Earth !!! (regardless of their territorial location).
      1. dr. sem
        dr. sem 15 September 2015 16: 34 New
        0
        this attack, in general, why?
    3. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 15 September 2015 16: 42 New
      +1
      Somehow, with a “bad” system of education, for 200 years, Russia for some reason has always been ahead in the number and quality of scientists who studied in “bad” schools. Even the West lured them. And now, with a “good”, western school introduced we have written the word "hedgehog" with four mistakes: "yosh." They took first places at all Olympics, and now? Instead of brains, now stupid memorization of EGE questions. This is not passing the real exam, you need to understand the subject at least at the minimum. And what’s the hell kind of call for school for us! You can look at our "favorite" government.
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 15 September 2015 19: 32 New
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        Quote: Tambov Wolf
        They took first places at all Olympics, and now? Instead of brains now stupid memorization of EGE questions.

        Here for this year.
        The Russian team won three gold medals and one silver at the international Olympiad in computer science.
        Earlier, Russian schoolchildren won four gold medals and one silver at the Olympiad in physics, and in biology - two gold, silver and bronze. The results of the international chemistry Olympiad, which was held in Baku, also turned out to be good: our guys brought two “gold” and two “silver” from there. But with mathematics, everything did not work out very well: this year there was not a single "gold", only six silver medals
        Where did this nonsense come from, from what archives. Already 10 years as another paradigm in education. It is not possible to remember all the discoveries of mankind, now they are learning to acquire knowledge. The problems of upbringing are relevant now. All permissions on the part of parents. No respect for elders and teachers. Confidence in impunity. Shoots of tolerance. Learning without education is immoral.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 15 September 2015 15: 23 New
    +3
    The modern school was created 200 years ago. This institution met the specific needs of the industrial age. At that time, production was rapidly developing in England.
    only what relation does Naglia have to the system of Russian-Soviet education ?!
    90% of students will not be successful people, they will live the lives of losers.
    what do you mean unsuccessful ?!
    For incorrect answers punished, put a deuce.
    it's not really a punishment
  • Lumumba
    Lumumba 15 September 2015 15: 24 New
    +5
    Quote: AIR-ZNAK
    A modern education system is imprisoned for narrow-profile specialists to solve the problems of large business. Diversified development is not welcome. Costs of the Bologna education system (this system is aimed at executing robots)


    Absolutely right. Conscientious school brought up in people systemic thinking, the ability to think analytically, autonomously, cut off the unnecessary from the right. This is not being taught now, alas.
  • RiverVV
    RiverVV 15 September 2015 15: 26 New
    +2
    The author is naive. It is not difficult to scold the modern school, but he draws conclusions completely childish. What does 90% of losers mean? Here I have 20 people subordinate. Are they all losers, but am I successful? And when I was an apprentice on the shift, was I a loser? Then, it turns out, abruptly stopped ...

    It’s time for all hamsters to slaughter on the tail: that’s why the school is called secondary, which gives a certain average level of knowledge. She teaches us to solve problems, and not look for ways to solve problems. Raising geeks is not the task of a school teacher.

    But there is another aspect: social. A person who is not able to live in society will never be successful. So the second main function of the school is social development. By transferring a child to a completely extracurricular education, you are almost guaranteed to make him a loser-loner.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 15 September 2015 15: 49 New
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      Quote: RiverVV
      therefore, the school is called secondary, which gives a certain average level of knowledge

      actually not for that
  • TOR2
    TOR2 15 September 2015 15: 27 New
    +2
    The causes of today's evil must be sought in the past. The modern school was created 200 years ago. This institution met the specific needs of the industrial age. At that time, production was rapidly developing in England.

    In fact, the school system of class - teacher - students originated in ancient Greece. The fact that some schools have turned into "gadyushniki" is a fact. Then you need to write about it openly, and the author somehow started from afar.
  • Batia
    Batia 15 September 2015 15: 27 New
    +5
    In the article, only one thing is right - you need to learn to think. My school is 64-74 years old. The teachers are great, taught to think creatively. Any mathematical problem was solved in several ways, in the classroom they always asked the question- "What do you think?" Your suggestions or suggestions. The first "tower" received a double effect. Almost by force they injected knowledge and, at the same time, necessarily, “And what will be your decision?”. At the same time, who wanted to receive knowledge, he received. Everything should be connected here - family, school, street, after-school hobbies such as fishing, etc. Only in this case a person becomes educated, not all knowing, but educated, i.e. creatively able to solve various problems.
    1. w3554152
      w3554152 19 September 2015 09: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Batia
      My school is 64-74 year.


      Then there was a school for a different economic model of the state. Today, the Gaidar feedstock model needs biorobots-consumers.
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 15 September 2015 15: 30 New
    +7
    The author of course is a great original!

    But this does not mean that the problems raised by him in the article do not exist. Any parent who studied at the Soviet school will agree with me that the modern school does not deal with child development in principle. Blindly following the American standards of education in the 90s turned the child’s developmental system into a system of “training it.” And to this day, idiotic reforms have not departed from the American patterns at all. And no matter how clever our TV leaders get smart about the development of children and their high achievements in this area, our children are leaving school with a level of development that is absolutely incomparable with the Soviet one.
  • Vlad_Rez
    Vlad_Rez 15 September 2015 15: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Denis_469
    What idiocy, not an article. At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads. And there is never much knowledge - they are always lacking. Otherwise, physicists appear who have no idea about new discoveries and are convinced that superluminal velocities do not exist. Just because they don’t need it.

    That's right. My grandfather told me the same thing - always learn the granddaughter, knowledge and skills are not a burden on a long road to LIFE.
    I still try to do so, and if somewhere I doubt something not in bastard oops it is not a shame to ask a simple hard worker - what, how and why.
  • morozik
    morozik 15 September 2015 15: 33 New
    +3
    What to do?

    It’s time to bring to justice ministers-saboteurs!

    Numerous saboteurs, sent by our enemies at the beginning of perestroika to all government bodies of the country, continue to work actively, trying to bring maximum damage in all the most important areas of life of the people of Russia ...
    Just don’t say later that you don’t like the new laws if you do not control them and do not participate in the process of their creation.


    STATEMENT ON THE OPENING OF A CRIMINAL CASE REGARDING THE RF MINISTER OF EDUCATION AND SCIENCE D.V. LIVANOV

    May 30 this year a statement was sent to the General Prosecutor's Office and the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation with a request for initiation in relation to the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation D.V. Livanov and other persons involved in the criminal case under Articles 285, 286, 285.1, 282, 136 and 357 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation of June 13.06.1996, 63 No. XNUMX-FZ. This statement is open for independent signing by concerned citizens of the Russian Federation and the emergency sending by them of this statement on their own behalf individually, individually or collectively
    detail link
    http://communitarian.ru/publikacii/obrazovanie/zayavlenie_o_vozbuzhdenii_ugolovn
    ogo_dela_v_otnoshenii_ministra_obrazovaniya_i_nauki_rf_dvlivanova_31052015 /

    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 15 September 2015 16: 48 New
      0
      This is all good, but Minister Livanov is a comrade-in-arms of our guarantor for the Lake cooperative, that is. from close friends. Well, if the poetess Zhenechka was a little scared for stealing huge sums of money, then there’s no issue with any statements here. The worst thing for a minister would be a transfer to another minister or the head of a huge state-owned company.
    2. w3554152
      w3554152 19 September 2015 09: 41 New
      0
      [quote = morozik] What to do?

      It’s time to bring to justice ministers-saboteurs!

      What does the ministers have to do with it? From a rearrangement of terms, the sum does not change. The raven was driven from the branches, they took off and sat on other branches. The crows are the same again. See the root. The raw material model needs to be changed.
  • dmb
    dmb 15 September 2015 15: 36 New
    +1
    Oh, it seems to me that the author had a control in the school, he cheated, and so that his father would not tear the belt for it, he poured his "deep" thoughts on the Internet without signing. Dad by the belt. and he gave him a screen under his nose: "Look at what smart people write, let's go dad to think in the river." Only now he will pull it out anyway.
  • made13
    made13 15 September 2015 15: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: wicked partisan
    The main task facing the teaching corps in an educational institution is to form the learner’s ability to learn

    The main task is to milk the parents to the school fund (I don’t know who was banned in Sevastopol), class fund (Without this money, there are no washing or trash bags, nothing), to voluntary-compulsory excursions (the share of which drips to the director). Previously, our headmaster sawed teachers, those parents. Everything is unprovable. There were several cases a year in Ukraine, in Russia, too. And nothing.
    Task number two - to look good in reporting - you don't give a damn about children (not to teachers, but to teachers and directors), you give beautiful reporting!
    Oh yes - task number 3, "Demobel chord", to give the class something weighty at the end of school - a plasma, a projector, a laptop (the lists are the same everywhere). About the curtains generally keep quiet.

    Sorry for the teachers - on the one hand they have a school administration that explicitly or implicitly presses them - grandmothers, you have half the parents in the class are entrepreneurs (90% of the unemployed and housewives are on the list of our class just in case), and on the other hand, the teacher ugly parents who rush (for the most part) with their only child (the most intelligent, honest, etc.) and believe that they know more than an experienced teacher!

    Article 100+ Strength and patience for nerve teachers!
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 15 September 2015 15: 39 New
    -1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Dirty article ..! I read these back in 90 ... The goal is to rebel and look for someone to blame! ..


    Well, MIHAN, there’s always Gapon pop. His name is Comrade Fursenko, who intensively pushed the EGE.
    Two acrobat brothers - one football ruined, the other education. And "how much truth is in the eyes of state whores!" What kind of bolt was to break apart the WORKING SYSTEM? Yes, just take a look at these half-witted high-school students who have been drinking beer in the morning. And take a look at their MAGNIFICENT teachings, which were the same YESTERDAY. I see, huh? And the Chinese, by the way, copied the entire Soviet system of education with us, and schoolchildren win their international olympiads, although it is more difficult for them because of the language. So. I look at my children - they do not have a brain, but the MOCC. The trouble ... Although you shouldn’t get into a panic - America is even dumber. It remains only to make a stupid face and say "Gee!" . It’s getting easier to live straight ...
  • veksha50
    veksha50 15 September 2015 15: 44 New
    +2
    "Dear grandfathers and grandmothers, mothers and fathers, if someone has the opportunity to transfer a child to an out-of-school education - give the child a happy life, without hesitation, take him out of school ".

    Call for what ??? Anonymous author is somewhere in the clouds of his chaotic thoughts, not becoming attached to the realities of life ...

    Let's start with a cynical ... I didn’t attend school - I didn’t receive a certificate, but without a piece of paper you are a poop ...
    Secondly, whether you want it or not, but a little man must learn to live in a society of his own kind, and not become isolated in the circle of his family and tutor ...
    Thirdly, what is the percentage of Russians who have the opportunity to pay for the services of a tutor or teachers who truly have not only knowledge but also pedagogical talent ...
    Fourth, where so many talented teachers are willing and willing to work at home ...
    And in the fifth, and sixth, and hundred and fifteenth ...

    The Soviet school first of all taught to study ... And who wanted to - he studied ...
    We had problems with a lack of information materials, we had to run around the reading rooms (since you can't tear one book apart), bookstores, I remember how I hunted for a course in general physics (2 or 3 volumes - I don’t remember) academician Landsberg ... But I was not a nerd, absolutely ... I managed to do something sometimes (slightly) and study at 4 and 5. I just wanted to !!!

    Now the Soviet school has almost been killed - both general, primary, secondary and higher professional ... And the quality of the teaching staff in the majority leaves much to be desired ...
    However, children who want to study have something that we did not have - an immense amount of information at hand !!!

    And those who want to receive knowledge - get it, contrary to all the exam !!!
    And they enter the full-time, non-paid faculties of the leading Moscow and regional universities, and study in such a way that they receive scholarships of the highest rank ... And then they find a job for themselves, even employers offer it ... However, again, not everyone offers it, and to the one who with great desire and perfectly studied ...

    So - we will not talk about people like the Lebanese-Duranovs, we will say that a lot now depends on the family, on what WE, father-mother-grandmother-grandfather are laying in the child, and on how we slowly unobtrusively will push him to the desire to receive this knowledge ...

    PS The author again, imperceptibly-provocatively through the modern education system, led us to the realization that both the government is bad, and the country-state, and indeed kirdyk ...

    My opinion is in spite of the fact that the education system and our children are ruined, educating them at the level of slaves. still, the author is a provocateur ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 15 September 2015 18: 21 New
      +1
      Yes! I agree! You ran a course in general physics and we have half of the textbooks under zero and two zeros. You can’t make notes from the library. You didn’t
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 15 September 2015 20: 07 New
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        Quote: Amurets
        ! You ran a course in general physics and we have half of the textbooks under zero and two zeros



        I ran for a course in general physics when I was in high school ...

        And when I received my first higher education, then, starting from the 2nd year, I had the same story - almost all the textbooks, as you say, were zero, that is, secret and top-secret ...

        However, in my first year as well as in your first year, there were no secret textbooks ...

        And in general, you (and I and you) have gone aside ... The problem has been raised in general education, we have gradually expanded it ...
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 16 September 2015 05: 33 New
          +1
          Yes, I completely agree.
  • ingenera
    ingenera 15 September 2015 15: 46 New
    +3
    So what? Look for private teachers, pay money (money again) and you will be fine? At the very least, all our brilliant designers graduated from our schools. The author, apparently does not know about it. Fat minus article! And it is necessary to reform the education system, but not in the way it happens. And progress does not mean that school curricula must be changed every year. A good basic education and provides food for further self-education and development. I think so.
    1. Mother Theresa
      Mother Theresa 15 September 2015 17: 02 New
      +2
      All our "brilliant" reformers also graduated from the Soviet school.
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  • a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 15 September 2015 15: 48 New
    -1
    The article is correct! Constant pressure and humiliation at school for poor performance creates serious psychological problems in the future. Personally, I was interested in studying only in the 5-7 class, the rest is a mockery of the unstable children's psyche. But somehow the desire for self-education outside the school curriculum spontaneously appeared and it took me to adulthood. For most former classmates, knowledge ended immediately after graduation. That's what stupid cramming leads to, and you see, they were excellent students, unlike me.
  • kuguar7777
    kuguar7777 15 September 2015 15: 51 New
    +5
    Quote: wicked partisan
    consists in the formation of the learner’s skill to learn,
    I dare to correct, not a skill but a motivation for learning.
  • sv68
    sv68 15 September 2015 15: 52 New
    0
    Initially, the school as a tool for obtaining knowledge cannot be harmful, while the material is obliging students not only to think, but to engage in the process of thinking, until there is a level of skill in approaching the student as a person. as soon as all children are turned into a certain mass of faceless and crazy seekers of an answer to a question and not thinking over the option of choosing and solving a problem precisely by reflection, then the school alas becomes a conveyor of average people, sort of like people, but who do not know how to comprehend information and draw the right conclusions.
  • xorgi
    xorgi 15 September 2015 15: 56 New
    +5
    The author of the article presents the course of teachers who believe that if a child is brought up only by a carrot, then he will grow up as a person and a genius. Most representatives of this trend are not professional educators.
    1. A child brought up by some gingerbread cookies becomes a person only if he has an individual teacher who devotes his life to raising this particular child, the idea is well described by the Strugatsky, but unfortunately it’s utopian: in the country of 14 million schoolchildren, where can I find a teacher for everyone?
    2. the child learns with interest if the teacher in his eyes is a dominant, now it is very rare, especially in high and high school, there are many reasons, both economic and social.
    3. the most important mistake of representatives of free education / training: the child is considered a person commensurate with the teacher, it is not so the teacher is built into the social system consciously accepts social restrictions and attitudes (for example, that swearing another person is not good: you can get administrative proceedings or by physiognomy). the child does not have this, he only imitates social activity.
    4. proponents of free development believe that by creating conditions it is possible to ensure that the child himself receives knowledge, but for one this period will take 1 year, for another 10 years, and for the third 50. People need society at 18 years old, this is a state requirement (army, elections), both social and economic.
    5. Soviet education was very good, but it involved all spheres of the state from cartoons to distribution after high school. Now this is impossible, there is simply no such consolidation of society and political power.
    Conclusion: modern pedagogy is in crisis: it is impossible to raise a child with punishment, it is impossible to raise a child with encouragement. There is no way out under the existing legal model.
    Before writing comments, I ask you to think about the question: do you agree that your teacher would beat your only child, even a girl, on the lips with a mat in the lesson?
    1. Down House
      Down House 15 September 2015 16: 53 New
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      Quote: xorgi
      Do you agree that your teacher would hit your only child, even a girl, on the lips with a mat in the lesson?

      Few people agree, but when I see such "kids" on the street the thought comes that the thing is necessary!
      1. xorgi
        xorgi 15 September 2015 18: 12 New
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        Yes, and the teacher sees this (mate, rudeness and humiliation) almost every day
  • Velizariy
    Velizariy 15 September 2015 16: 15 New
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    This set of letters, proudly called an article, why is it placed on VO ??? He had a place on the "let them say" or something else empty. And then this billiard why? Provocation, the call of angry emotions and abuse of the townsfolk?
    This phrase is issued by the phrase "five-dollar chip", at least converted into rubles or yuan) yuan is more relevant for chips)))
  • Marquis
    Marquis 15 September 2015 16: 27 New
    +3
    Just at school they don’t learn to think. And they learn to solve quickly, without delving into the essence. Teachers stupidly drive the program. And who has learned or not, they do not care. They are preparing for the Unified State Examination and the State Academic Examination so that the school scores more points. And how many of the smart graduates? Just 1 out of 10, because he thinks, thinks. Each school boasts that it has many teachers of the highest and first category. But most of them are boring, dreary. After such lessons I do not want to learn. There is no hitch, no optimism. I repeat, stupidly read out the material (Drive the program).
  • Andrey_K
    Andrey_K 15 September 2015 16: 28 New
    +5
    The author is absolutely right.
    The modern school teaches very poorly - even harms.
    Teaches to remember mechanically, not think.

    When a child enters a university, he has to relearn.

    I myself remember how very difficult it was in the first year — all school skills turned out to be harmful — it is impossible to master the university material with such methods (which is 100 times the volume of school material).
    Some of my friends dropped out of the university in the first year ... but then (after they realized that we needed to study differently) they rebuilt and started to study perfectly - with a red diploma.

    Now one such friend of mine is a very successful programmer.
  • boris-1230
    boris-1230 15 September 2015 16: 29 New
    +2
    One young man, observing the philosophers of Ancient Greece, thought: "They sit, talk all day, in general, not life, but raspberries." He came and said to the philosopher: "May I be your student?" "You can, but first you have to study geometry and other sciences." So before you learn to think, you still need to accumulate knowledge, learn logic and other tricks. The teaching technique needs to be changed: there are many subjects, it is difficult to keep up with everything. In addition, it is desirable that physical education was daily in the fresh air, otherwise physical health is weakened.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 15 September 2015 16: 37 New
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    Quote: Denis_469
    At school, like a university, they teach not so much knowledge as how to work with their own heads.

    Yes. In theory. In practice, unfortunately, most often it turns out as described in the article. The teacher, for his convenience (and to increase the percentage of academic performance in the classroom) drives (tries to fit) ALL students to the same framework. And who does not match, he is a bully and underperforming.
  • Lawyer
    Lawyer 15 September 2015 16: 46 New
    +1
    It is imperative to introduce separate education - male and female gymnasiums, as before. This will throw a lot of dope out of the head of adolescents and improve the educational process. In men's schools, the overwhelming majority of teachers must be men, especially in the older grades.
    1. prostorabochiy
      prostorabochiy 16 September 2015 04: 42 New
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      Dope is now in contact via ICQ and more. Teachers should be such that nonsense was on the 16th place after study, sports, art and other components of education.
  • Mamsik
    Mamsik 15 September 2015 16: 46 New
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    What a nasty feeling from the article. "Children love to play" ... My girlfriend has been living in Finland for a long time. The eldest has already graduated from high school, and the youngest is in 5th grade. Here they study in a playful way, everyone plays and plays. As a result, they rejoice that the eldest sometimes makes money on cigarettes and movies. We compared the school curriculum with ours, even the designations of physical quantities are not familiar to the guy. A friend is surprised that our children go through math. There is childhood, a period when a person plays. And there is adolescence, youth, when it is time to learn.