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Washington leaves Ukraine

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In late August, namely 31 numbers, President Poroshenko took a classic position for Ukraine: he sat down on two chairs at once, a pro-Ukrainian Bandera and a certain “purely pro-Ukrainian”, something definite is difficult to say about him, but Poroshenko himself embodies him. Today he is the most pro-Ukrainian in his speeches, but at the same time he has entered into a confrontation with the outspoken Nazis from Freedom, the Right Sector and the Lyashko Party. And he made a political alliance with the former regionals, the oligarchic Opposition bloc, during the voting on amendments to the Constitution on the last day of August.




On the one hand, Poroshenko declared demobilization, and this speaks in favor of continuing the truce in the Donbass that Kiev refuses to attack on Donetsk and Lugansk. True, he immediately speaks of a "march on Moscow," he talks about the operation to implement the Minsk Agreements (later justified, they say, incorrectly translated from English), makes other absurd anti-Russian statements, it seems, to outdo the most notorious Nazis in "patriotism". And knock out, in this way, their propaganda ground from under their feet.

In fact, we see that the August execution of Poroshenko in Berlin led to a quick cessation of the shelling of Donbass, and this indirectly indicates that America has ceded Ukraine to Europe. Therefore, the junta's artillery preparation in August did not result in a war, there were no major acts of sabotage — they were no longer needed after the abolition of the general offensive of Kiev on the Donbass. The arguments of a more peaceful Europe turned out to be convincing, most likely for Washington, while Kiev simply obeyed.

The proof of America’s retreat from Ukraine is the hysteria of its brutal appointee of former Georgian President Saakashvili. He cannot hold back his emotions, and maybe, he remembers how America wrote off himself in Georgia. It is known that Saakashvili connects Poroshenko with friendship from his student days, thanks to this friendship and a short “bench” of trusted politicians for Poroshenko (plus a “request” from the State Department) he received a governor’s post in Odessa and great influence in the country.

However, the recent statements by Saakashvili set up Poroshenko himself, since they are generally offensive to Ukraine, which his student friend compared to African Gabon. Moreover, he manages to combine the bad things about Ukraine with conceptual statements about a "parallel government" in Ukraine, hinting at a certain conspiracy of oligarchs. Saakashvili clearly felt uncomfortable, and is torn between the American authorities and Poroshenko. He kind of gives Poroshenko a reason to dismiss himself in order to get out of the game, which is becoming increasingly dangerous for him.

All these statements by Saakashvili contradict Poroshenko’s “pro-Ukrainian” position and speak of a conflict between them. But only Saakashvili’s political attacks on Yatsenyuk and Kolomoisky are explained rationally: Washington’s dissatisfaction with Poroshenko’s refusal from the policy of war is hiding behind them, as they punish Pyotr Alekseevich for his August deflection in front of Europe. Washington does not touch Poroshenko himself, although Radio Liberty, known for its proximity to the United States behind the scenes, is already exposing the "corrupt billionaire Poroshenko."

In fact, Saakashvili Poroshenko incites the first to attack the far right. In Odessa, the police actually suppresses the performances of Bandera attack aircraft, and even arrested the two leaders of Euromaidan. A statement on the repression against the Nazi-patriots was made by Yarosh and called on his sister cities to unite and oppose the Kiev authorities. This Saakashvili performs the last task of Washington in Ukraine: if it was not possible to provoke a war with Russia, and in Transnistria, then it remains to provoke internecine strife within the Kiev regime.

In this case, it is important how the roles of the “aggressor” and his “victim” are distributed, Saakashvili pushes Poroshenko on the role of “aggressor”, then the Nazi-patriots and Kolomoisky will act as the “victim”. However, as in the case of President Yanukovych, curators from the United States will stand behind the backs of both “chairs”, CIA agent Nalyvaychenko stands behind the back of Nazi-patriot, and the oligarch Kolomoisky found refuge in the United States in difficult times. The only difference: Poroshenko relies on Berlin, which is interested in the Ukrainian gas transit, that is, in stability in Ukraine.

Usually, the United States ends its unsuccessful “managed revolutions” with civil strife: Aboriginal people were allegedly unworthy of democracy, incapable of democracy - and this is the sad result ... And the US is washing its hands, as they did in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Ukraine is next.

The end of the “guided revolution” of the US State Department in Ukraine also confirms the decrease in the activity of its ambassador in Kiev, Jeffrey Payette. The last time he leaned out of his diplomatic burrow into public space in connection with the events in Mukachevo, when the attack on the Donbass was still on the agenda, and the conflict with the Nazi patriots was very out of place. However, a much more significant event - armed Maidan at the walls of the Rada 31 August, did without its diplomatic statements.

Europe estimated Poroshenko's prudent behavior at 500 million dollars, which is half of the amount required to pay Russian gas, which Kiev needs for stable gas transit in the winter. This money will go directly to the accounts of Gazprom (!), Bypassing Kiev, and by the end of September, Russian gas may begin to flow into the UGS of Ukraine. If nothing extraordinary happens at the UN General Assembly in New York, in Syria and in Europe already divided by migrants.

Poroshenko, it seems, sees the threat of provocation of civil strife in the country, and announced the possibility of imposing martial law, allegedly in the event of a worsening of the situation in the Donbas. However, in the Donbass, and so "ATO", but on the territory of the rest of Ukraine will then be "IN", which he threatens his Nazi patriots in the event of an attempt to arrange a new armed Maidan, for example, by the October elections.
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  1. Name
    Name 15 September 2015 06: 11 New
    +38
    "... the money will go directly to the accounts of Gazprom (!), bypassing Kiev ..."- It's not for nothing that Ukraine is called the country of 404. winked
    1. Vend
      Vend 15 September 2015 09: 38 New
      +1
      Well, maybe they leave, only too long. The faces of the USA cannot be saved. They would bring down from Ukraine and calm down.
      1. Will
        Will 15 September 2015 10: 32 New
        +8
        Nowhere and never did the United States go completely, and that will be as long as the United States. Such is the country built by "refugees" from different countries, where they themselves did not get along, but after moving, they destroyed the indigenous population. It can be seen in the blood of the population of the United States inanimity and killing of the "root" system.
        1. Yars
          Yars 15 September 2015 11: 20 New
          +2
          Well, actually it’s in the style of the United States, to create chaos and topple over, let the brother of the brother kill, the main thing is to give a push! So it was in Libya, Syria and now in Ukraine
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        3. captain
          captain 15 September 2015 12: 08 New
          +3
          Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that Ukraine will become a confederation, consisting of the 3-5 cantons. As the former president of France, Giscard d "Estén Valerie, said, you can’t mock people, they must be divided, but left in one state.
      2. Vega
        Vega 15 September 2015 10: 38 New
        +2
        Just do not blame. They need to continue the split in Europe and Ukraine, bring the boiler to a boil, but then it will be possible to go into the shadows.
        1. ver_
          ver_ 15 September 2015 15: 11 New
          0
          ... in every minus there is a plus ... and this keeps the system in balance ..
        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 15 September 2015 23: 00 New
          +2
          Quote: vega
          bring the boiler to a boil, but then it will be possible to go into the shade.

          the Americans were preparing this "brew" for Russia so that it would dissipate this concoction, spending resources, time and money. Thus, amas weaken their strategic adversary.
          But the ama will not go "into the shadow". They have on the agenda of SEA-APR! There is a second rival who also needs to be surrounded by an arc of instability. This will be the next act of uncle Sam's mock-up.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 15 September 2015 20: 36 New
      0
      Quote: name
      "... the money will go directly to the accounts of Gazprom (!), bypassing Kiev ..."- It's not for nothing that Ukraine is called the country of 404. winked

      This is a zrada! Why did you breathe with burnt tires ?! For what blood (someone else's) was shed ?! This is HIT!
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 15 September 2015 06: 15 New
    +27
    they are generally offensive to Ukraine, which his student friend compared to African Gabon.

    Rather, such statements are offensive to Gabon. GDP per capita: Gabon - 22904 dead presidents, Ukraine - 8668, between Bosnia and Herzigovina and Jamaica. crying
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 15 September 2015 06: 58 New
      +16
      Quote: Vladimirets
      offensive to Gabon.

      I also wanted to say that the Ruin to Gabon still has to jump and jump, they have the distance of countries in 30 in the GDP ranking.
      And with the pennies of Europe, she threw the Ruin rightly, rightly believing that Petya and the Plant had already made good money on this mess, winter was just around the corner, only Bolivar (Nord Stream) would not take everyone out, and it was necessary to survive to the second. In short, a certain status quo is drawn, the place of the Ruins is again determined near the outhouse, while adults understand each other.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 15 September 2015 07: 38 New
        +9
        I agree ... Gabon is not the poorest country in the world. From the wiki.
        "Due to the natural reserves of oil, gas, manganese and uranium ore and a relatively small population, Gabon is one of the richest countries in Black Africa (in calculating GDP per capita in 2009 - 13,9 thousand dollars, 3rd place after Equatorial Guinea and Seychelles, at the same time - 81st place in the world for this indicator), although about 60% of the working population is engaged in agriculture or logging.

        Agriculture (5% of GDP) - cocoa, coffee, sugar, palm oil, rubber, livestock.

        Industry (15% of employees, 57% of GDP) - oil production and refining (2013 million tons [11,8] extracted in 25), manganese and gold mining, agricultural processing, woodworking. "
    2. meriem1
      meriem1 15 September 2015 08: 05 New
      +4
      Vladimir Vladimir Today, 06:15

      they are generally offensive to Ukraine, which his student friend compared to African Gabon.


      Rather, such statements are offensive to Gabon. GDP per capita: Gabon - 22904 dead presidents, Ukraine - 8668, between Bosnia and Herzigovina and Jamaica.


      This Mishiko just liked the name of the country))) Gabon ... Well, that sounds. For something, there is something to strive for. Cover the difference 2.5 times, this is not to scratch the balls. Here you have to work hard.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 15 September 2015 09: 39 New
        +4
        For the Americans to miss such a pain point for us like Ukraine ?! I will never believe it. On a short leash they will keep and lower us at the slightest need. And so it will be until we invest in a complete "transfusion of domineering blood" in Ukraine. And it is long and expensive.
        1. benjerro
          benjerro 15 September 2015 09: 50 New
          +1
          So I also think that the "support" of the country404 for Americans is worth a mere penny compared with the benefits that they have. They won’t go anywhere, at least in the near future.
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 September 2015 10: 09 New
      +10
      In addition to your post laughing
      1. Onotollah
        Onotollah 15 September 2015 14: 33 New
        +3
        Yes, the wrong country was called Gabon.
  3. ermolai
    ermolai 15 September 2015 06: 16 New
    +18
    Yes, it would be faster, everything has settled down, but the SC is preparing materials for the tribunal, I have already laid out a shop for 30 digs, I will put together a separate stool for Lyashka. a neighbor of the rope weaves horsehair. We hope to be in time with gifts. although stools, shops probably need more.
    1. Volga Cossack
      Volga Cossack 15 September 2015 07: 46 New
      +5
      it's high time - I’ll help with the benches ........ no question - we are Volgsky shipbuilders ....... we’ll make a bench too.
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  4. sa-zz
    sa-zz 15 September 2015 06: 21 New
    +7
    The giblets (guts) do not control the situation, but they control it, and they allow (push?) To make mistakes on the principle that there is more chaos and kipish, but for now we will salt Russia and the outskirts with a growing (divide).
    1. Vega
      Vega 15 September 2015 10: 44 New
      0
      Poroshenko did not control the situation from the very beginning, others controlled him, clearly and secretly. The Georgian spill of the USA is simply an extra and necessary trump card in the hands of the same puppeteer, Yarosh, too, but Kolomoisky and Co. I would not write off yet, like Tymoshenko.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 September 2015 06: 47 New
    +5
    He kind of gives Poroshenko a reason to fire himself in order to leave the game, which is becoming increasingly dangerous for him.

    This is very similar to Saakashvili, who on his ass felt the "friendship" and the promises of America. And since what was written in the article began to fuss so much
    this indirectly indicates that America lost Ukraine to Europe

    may eventually find confirmation. Moreover, the Americans are not accustomed to scooping up behind themselves the sewage that they have heaped up with their actions.
  6. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 15 September 2015 07: 06 New
    +3
    ... Poroshenko took a classic position for Ukraine: he sat down on two chairs at once ...
    Nothing, not even the long past, teaches him. A living example of Yanukovych is where he is now and "who is he". He was lucky, he has Putin, and this one has only Obama. No one is safe from mistakes, but only do @ ak repeats them. If you want to know a person, give him power. So they found out. Who is who.
  7. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 15 September 2015 07: 09 New
    +4
    The boorigins allegedly turned out to be unworthy of democracy, incapable of democracy - and here is the sad result ... And the US is washing their hands ...


    Washing the hands is the simplest thing that ameri-suk can do, but they will never be able to wash these hands from the blood of innocent victims. And the first act of a bloody mess with refugees, in the most freedom-loving and democratic Europe, is already on its way. And here the USA wash their hands, prepare ...
  8. rosarioagro
    rosarioagro 15 September 2015 07: 09 New
    +3
    "... Poroshenko also relies on Berlin, which is interested in Ukrainian gas transit, that is, stability in Ukraine."

    After signing the agreement on SP-2, this loses its relevance, here what Berlin may be interested in is the discharge of migrants to Ukraine
  9. Mariner
    Mariner 15 September 2015 07: 41 New
    +4
    For all the terms of the world mess: wars, including in Ukraine, sanctions and counter-sanctions, refugees, etc. etc. only americos are in chocolate. This is really a vile country. Ready for anything for the hegemony of a green piece of paper. And they also called the USSR an evil empire ...
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 15 September 2015 08: 20 New
      +5
      "And they also called the USSR an evil empire."
      Yes, all statements of the states must be translated using the words-antagonists.
      "The USSR was an empire of GOOD."
      How much calmer it was in the world, while the USSR existed, all of Eastern Europe lived quietly, Yugoslavia existed, and the people lived there better than in Russia. Only polls conducted can also not be trusted - the desired result can be obtained from sample polls as easy as shelling pears.
      I have long wanted to say about polls from ECHO. They are called by quite a lot of listeners, whose views are known to them, they broadcast them, people who disagree with the editorial staff just stop listening to them, that's why their poll is guaranteed to give the desired result, their audience has been eliminated from opposite views.
      So it is in the case of Ukraine: those who hold pro-government policies are not afraid to express their views, add another paid PR community, registered everywhere several times, and take into account that supporters of opposing views can simply be killed in a public place without trial and consequences, that's the picture turns oil-general Russophobia. Change public policy - call Bandera a criminal on a global scale, Amer invaders, Russia a good neighbor, and the negative will positively swap places. In the modern world, sincerity and defending a point of view are a rarity: everyone earns as they can.
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 15 September 2015 08: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: olimpiada15
        , people who disagree with the position of the editorial office simply stop listening to them, which is why their poll is guaranteed to give the desired result, they have screened out an audience with opposing views.

        Yes, I beg you - listen to FM News - the same thing with a different polarity. The law of the genre, no one will spend airtime on those who should not be in the ideological wake of the radio station.
        1. saber
          saber 15 September 2015 10: 46 New
          +1
          not at all. quite different opinions are voiced by the dialers. Naturally, liberal tantrums with "Echo" are not allowed on the air, but this is a common norm - do not give the word to the mentally ill
  10. Alekseev-Orsk
    Alekseev-Orsk 15 September 2015 08: 04 New
    +1
    Yes, let yourself be killed there, you see the rot will go away, and those with whom you can conduct a constructive dialogue will remain))))
  11. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 15 September 2015 08: 48 New
    +2
    America, of course, can go on draining durcaines, but not completely. The mattresses there have an interest not only political, but also economic. In the Mukachevo region there is a decent field for shale gas reserves and there is an existing gas transportation system.
    Odessa province has ports, an oil pipeline, a refinery. And by this
    the Americans will try to keep these territories behind them, and the rest of the territory will probably be thoroughly scorched and completely destroyed, according to the principle "neither ours nor yours"
  12. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 15 September 2015 09: 02 New
    +2
    The information is not far from the truth. In terms of plan, it didn’t work to leave chaos behind, it’s a pity for the Ukrainians, but they themselves chose this path. God judges them, but it’s a pity for the children, although they turn them into education and propaganda ... In general, as someone from the ancients said all that is done is for the best. And on usroin race continues on a roller coaster I think Russian roulette is also just around the corner ...
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  14. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 15 September 2015 10: 08 New
    +1
    Washington leaves Ukraine
    As history clearly shows, the United States does not voluntarily leave anywhere. In Ukraine, in my opinion, the situation was temporarily frozen. Now the United States has transferred a degree of tension to Europe itself. hi
  15. evil partisan
    evil partisan 15 September 2015 11: 00 New
    0
    then “IN”, which he threatens with his Nazi patriots

    Why are we so scary ??belay
    Although ... I looked at the photo Ruslan 67sad ... Perhaps he is right ... what
  16. Makarov
    Makarov 15 September 2015 11: 34 New
    +1
    Something I did not understand the joy of the author ... if the United States "gives" Ukraine to Europe, then it does not need concentration of attention and strength, therefore they will concentrate on other areas ...
  17. Geser
    Geser 15 September 2015 12: 21 New
    +1
    The fact that America so simply will not leave Ukraine in this I completely agree. They will try to squeeze out the maximum for themselves, having spoiled and broken everything. The Americans started all this mess in Ukraine with one goal - to put a pro-American puppet government that will enter Ukraine into NATO. As soon as Ukraine joins NATO, the States will deploy missiles aimed at destroying our nuclear arsenal on its territory. From their bases in Europe, Asia and the Far East, American missiles cannot reach our nuclear arsenal beyond the Urals. And if American missiles are deployed in Ukraine, then there will be such an opportunity. That's for the sake of this, the Americans turned Maidan and so simply they will not leave Ukraine.
  18. sagitch
    sagitch 15 September 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    Maybe Saakashvili decided to become president of the Odessa Republic?
    1. Geser
      Geser 15 September 2015 13: 26 New
      0
      He will not become president, but the fact that the Odessa region will proclaim itself a republic may well be.
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 15 September 2015 19: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Geser
        He will not become president, but the fact that the Odessa region will proclaim itself a republic may well be.

        Maybe it will, if you look, the smelly Russophobe may turn out to be a greater patriot of Russia than those who are ready to kill Russians and Russians in words (the oligarchs were Communists too)
  19. drags33
    drags33 15 September 2015 13: 21 New
    0
    Everything has been clear with dill for a long time - there has formed such a "terrarium of like-minded people" that you can expect anything from them both inside the former country and in relations with Russia.
  20. Olezhek
    Olezhek 15 September 2015 13: 42 New
    0
    In fact, we see that the August execution of Poroshenko in Berlin led to a quick cessation of the shelling of Donbass, and this indirectly indicates that America has ceded Ukraine to Europe.


    This is the tragedy of Ukraine: the complete absence of sovereignty. Millions of Ukrainians, relying on the only available Soviet experience, can never imagine the worst thing - they will simply be abandoned
    die on the street.
    People are constantly brainwashed about the strategic value of the "super prize" Ukraine.
    But at a certain moment, the West will turn down a propaganda campaign and forget about Ukraine ...

    Russia Ukraine in its current state (especially in tomorrow) does not pull out.
    Yes, and not really wanted.
    So the Ukrainian people are waiting for hard times.

    Of course, Ukraine will not disappear from the map but will exist in the status of Kosovo / Zimbabwe ..
    That is, the modern welfare state simply "escapes" from the Ukrainians ...
  21. soratnik
    soratnik 15 September 2015 13: 59 New
    +3
    America ceded Ukraine to Europe

    The US is actually promoting its managed house strategy. It is for this reason that the United States weakened the onslaught in Ukraine. Because the necessary, at the moment, house level in Ukraine has already been created, the economy has collapsed, Europe has taken 40 million parasites to maintain. Now comes a new stage - the settlement of Europe by parasites from the Middle East and North Africa. After this comes the next - acute stage, the activation of terrorists who arrived in Europe with refugees. Thus, the United States will deliver an economic blow to both Europe and Russia. The United States skillfully created problems for Russia and Europe near their borders in the form of Ukraine and the threat of inter-religious terrorist war both in the Middle East (it is already underway) and, in the future, in Europe. And the Islamic state will constantly generate and train terrorists and export them to Europe. However, if the CSTO does not concentrate and tighten border control and the anti-terrorist regime in its territories, the flow of terrorists trained in the Islamic State will flood into Central Asia and it will also become hot there! In general, the United States is easier to destroy with nuclear weapons than to combat their subversive activities.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 16 September 2015 00: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: soratnik
      In general, the United States is easier to destroy with nuclear weapons than to combat their subversive activities.

      Oh how! And who is this D "Artagnan? China? So, it seems he is not particularly eager for the forefront of social competition ...
      Russia, it seems, is not going to expose humanity to mortal danger ... So, the proposal is canceled. We will fight against Amers. Insinuations, slowly undermining the forces of a rotten "democracy."
      1. soratnik
        soratnik 16 September 2015 10: 37 New
        0
        So far, the United States has been successfully training forces on the neck of a "prosperous power." And it is very simple to get several shipping containers with nuclear devices into the largest cities in the USA.
  22. Stranger
    Stranger 15 September 2015 19: 02 New
    0
    they still haven’t left Europe already from the outskirts and
  23. Weyland
    Weyland 15 September 2015 19: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    they are generally offensive to Ukraine, which his student friend compared to African Gabon.

    Rather, such statements are offensive to Gabon. GDP per capita: Gabon - 22904 dead presidents, Ukraine - 8668, between Bosnia and Herzigovina and Jamaica. crying


    A joke has already appeared in the next branch: Gabon’s president Ali bin Bongo Ondimba promised to hang Sahak for beyzim if he dares to once again compare his homeland with Ukraine!
  24. GDV
    GDV 15 September 2015 20: 55 New
    0
    The play is approaching the finale, everything has an end, I confess Ukraine has pretty tired for this year where it spits in the spotlight.
    A stub of a great power, your fate is sad, an eternal vassal.
  25. IAlex
    IAlex 15 September 2015 21: 22 New
    0
    After a recent visit to Nuland with cookies, you need to wait for a new aggression in the Donbas, because after her arrival she always plays with a petunia ... Especially since it’s time for them to slow down and hamper the forces of the Russian Federation until they succumbed to ISIS in Syria ...
  26. lika.ok16
    lika.ok16 16 September 2015 00: 54 New
    0
    Nobody is going to leave anywhere. Not in order to do such work to leave. In Ukraine, the current situation is very, very long.
  27. pan_nor
    pan_nor 16 September 2015 04: 14 New
    0
    Minus. More like the author’s dreams.