The leader of the movement "Novorossiya" - about the current situation in the Donbass

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The leader of the movement "Novorossiya" - about the current situation in the Donbass


Last Friday, a political crisis began in the Donetsk People's Republic. The speaker of the People’s Council of the DPR, Andrei Purgin, was removed from his post and taken into custody with his wife without charge. At an extraordinary meeting of the parliament, the deputies elected deputy chairman of the parliament and the plenipotentiary representative of the DPR in the trilateral contact group in Minsk Denis Pushilin as acting head of the National Assembly. The next day, 5 of September, in the center of Donetsk, several dozen protesters in support of Purgin blocked the highway.

According to news agencies, Purgin has now been released from the arrest of the republic’s MGB.

Our correspondent met and spoke with the ex-Minister of Defense of the DPR, and now the leader of the Novorossia movement Igor Strelkov, about the need to consolidate the patriotic forces of Russia and why the struggle for Novorossia is the task of preventing the establishment of a new world order far from humanism and justice.

- Igor Ivanovich, how would you describe the situation that is happening now in the government bodies of the DPR in connection with the dismissal of Andrei Purgin from the post of chairman of the People’s Council of the Republic?

- Against the background of the continuing drain of the republics, Ukraine is in a struggle for power, for money, for resources. If I may say so, the reverse personnel selection continues, which began more than a year ago. There are such filters in which only the dirt goes up.

I have never considered Mr. Purgin a worthy politician, but compared to Mr. Pan Pushil, he is simply a torch. As they say, bezrybe and cancer fish. In turn, Pushilin is ready to sign the most treacherous agreements, he is in fact “his own” in the opinion of the Ukrainian negotiators and fulfills absolutely all instructions of Surkov.

In addition, Pushilin has the background of the head of the Donetsk branch of the MMM behind his shoulders - a patented swindler on whom there is no place to put stamps. The situation when such a figure, having eliminated accomplices, becomes in fact the second person in the republic, and Zakharchenko does not comment on this in any way, demonstrates the system that is now built in the DPR. That’s all.

- Is it possible that the political crisis in the republic is a reflection of the opposition of certain pressure groups in the Kremlin?

- No, in principle. And Zakharchenko, and Pushilin, and Purgin - they are all protégés of Surkov and, naturally, are not representatives of another group. The only thing that distinguishes Purgin is that to some extent he was a supporter of an independent Donbass, and not a Donbass within Russia. That's why, perhaps, he had some disagreements with Surkov. The latter is more comfortable than Pushilin, because he is such a person - “that you deign”: whatever he is ordered, he does everything. He will be ordered to surrender the Donbass, he will be ordered to surrender anything — he will execute.

- There is a possibility that Ukraine will somehow take advantage of the crisis in the power institutions of the DPR in its favor?

- Of course, this crisis does not benefit the republics. Because of this kind of "rat fights", disassembling spiders in the bank, especially when they crawl out, have a paralyzing effect on the population and the troops. But I do not think that Ukraine can try to take advantage of this, despite the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces are ready for an offensive from the beginning of the summer. Kiev fears the reaction of Moscow, fears a new military defeat in the event of active support for the LC and the DPR from Russia. Although I repeat, I emphasize: the APU, in principle, is ready for an offensive.

- How to perceive the statement of Vladislav Danej concerning the transfer of control over the border to Ukraine, and whether these events - the statement of Danyne and the dismissal of Purgin - have a connection?

- I considered and consider border issues of principle. No matter how smeared or painted over, the transfer of the border in any form under Ukrainian control is the end of the republics, even in this flawed form. I'm not talking about the idea of ​​Novorossia, which the current authorities of the republics have already officially buried. By the way, I hope that it’s still premature to bury this idea.

Danyne’s statement finally stigmatizes him. If in a good way, he should be tried for treason against his motherland, if he, of course, considers the LNR to be his homeland, to plant and shoot. I personally would have done so if it were in my power. He would have ordered him to betray him to a military court.
Now the institutions of government of the republics are working completely discredited guys, chosen for the black work. Vladislav Yuryevich is not sitting idle, he is digging, digging and digging. As he sought to surrender the republic a year ago, so he, in fact, continues to do so.

As you know, Surkov came to the government from Alfa Bank. Alfa Bank is Western money, thrown on the privatization of Russia. Accordingly, this is international capital, for which Russia today is only a field for “effective management,” a resource federation. The term "great energy power" is actually translated into real Russian "as a raw materials appendage of the West."

Putin’s actions to restore real sovereignty are sabotaged. The opposition goes in the closest circle. I am sure that Surkov quite deliberately sabotages and harms. Patriotic slogans are issued to the public. All hired blogosphere, all hosts of trolls, computer bots howl that Russia embarked on the path of sovereignty. And under the cover of this, everything is done so that people who believe in these slogans are completely disappointed in them, so that none of the reasonable, necessary measures will be implemented. Indeed, any, even remarkably thought-out, strategic operation can come to actual failure at all stages simply at the expense of a deliberately introduced error.

That is why from the very beginning of Minsk I immediately understood that it was a question of sabotage. Because initially an unattainable goal was set: to negotiate with those who are fundamentally unwilling to negotiate. Moreover, an agreement was not even from a position of strength, which then, perhaps, would have been possible, but from the position of accepting all the demands of the enemy, not even put forward. The result is obvious.

Vladislav Daynogo at the meeting of the "round table"
dedicated to the implementation of the Set of measures for the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

- Is it possible that the situation will change after Putin’s speech at the UN General Assembly?

- I have already said many times that the Rubicon has been crossed and the black mark was handed. All attempts to reach an agreement through partial surrender are impossible - Putin will only be required to complete, unconditional surrender.

No concessions will help - neither for refugees nor for Syria. It is squeezed in exactly the same way as Milosevic, Gaddafi, Saddam. Step by step, they will consistently force retreat, retreat and retreat. The only opportunity to stand up is to rest, and not just to rest, but to go on the counteroffensive again. I don’t know what the president will say at the UN General Assembly, I don’t know how this will be accompanied by events, what statements he will make. From this all the same, the situation will not change.

- Do you think that the Kremlin has already realized that there will be no concessions?

- I think no. Otherwise, concrete measures would be taken. In the meantime, even on the example of the situation in Novorossia, there is no need to talk about any correct actions.

Awareness of the threat did not come at least because, in fact, agents of the West occupy the highest posts in the state. That is, subjectively, they may not be such, but objectively how else to name people who have all interests, including family ties, are abroad. They can not serve Russia if it is contrary to the interests of the West.

The key moment of the fact that the president and his inner circle, at least that part which does not belong to the fifth column, is aware of the irreversibility of the processes that have taken place, will be personnel reform. In the meantime, this is not, even partially, there are not even any hints - it means that awareness has not come yet. Or it has come, but has not yet developed to a specific implementation.

- Based on the evolving situation in LDNR, as well as in the face of the threat of a massive offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine noted by you, how will events develop in Novorossia and Russia in the near future?

- Without possessing any insider, as they say, political information from either the Kremlin or Kiev, I naturally cannot give any predictions.

I see that the Ukrainian troops are concentrated, ready to strike, but for some reason this strike is not inflicted. Accordingly, I conclude that they are waiting for a political decision from Kiev. When this political decision is made, we do not know, but in any case, all attempts at reconciliation are meaningless.

Kiev and the United States do not need Putin’s honorable capitulation, they need complete capitulation, absolute and unconditional, which will lead to a sharp exacerbation of the political situation in Russia and, as a consequence, the overthrow of Putin. That is, they are going to win not a tactical victory, but a strategic one, but our mistake is that, having taken a strategic step towards establishing sovereignty, we decided to be satisfied with a loud, brilliant, but only small tactical victory in the Crimea.

Today we are talking about the desire of the West to finally dismember Russia, just as the United States, the Anglo-Saxons demolish the rest of the world. After all, everything that we see today, right now, shows that in certain circles a decision has been made to completely demolish all the remnants of the traditional system in the Eastern Hemisphere.

If recently they blew up and turned the Middle East into a desert: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, North Africa, now this effect is being transported to Europe. To any sensible person who lives not by some liberal myths, but really knows history and the laws of human development, it is clear that these mass migrations of peoples will eventually lead to the most powerful upheavals in Europe. That is, having inflamed the war and not letting it end in the Arab world, the USA is spreading this chaos on the European continent.

At the same time, neither the Kiev authorities, nor the United States, nor other states that took part in inciting this war, are interested in Ukraine becoming a prosperous European state. They just need a battlefield where the forces of Russia will weaken, where the Slavs will kill each other.

US military at the joint Ukrainian-American exercises in Odessa. Photo: Arkhip Vereshchagin / TASS Perhaps this is a relevant metaphor: if you put a cigarette lighter on a piece of paper from below, a dark spot will appear on it first, then the fire will spread in a circle. Imagine a map of the Eastern Hemisphere - Europe, Asia, North Africa. Several such spots appeared at the same time; now they are expanding and gradually merging into one global fire. One of these spots appeared on the territory of Ukraine, and the arsonists are interested in expanding it faster in all directions.

And the United States thus create a "safe haven" for capital and brains from around the world. A sort of radiant Avalon - one of the Masonic symbols that are so loved in America. At the same time, a narrower domain, the North American one, emerged inside the once united western civilization domain. Everything else must be destroyed. In this respect, of course, the actions of the pan-European and national bureaucracies of Germany and France can be called suicide.

Not the personal suicide of the mason Hollande or the mason Merkel, but the suicide of the peoples they formally represent. Hollande is a Jew, so the problems of the French are of little interest to him. I would not like to focus on nationality, but everything is so obvious here.

Take, for example, the recent events in Libya, the destruction of which for France was not only unprofitable, but categorically harmful. In general, the ethnic Frenchman Sarkozy also tried thoroughly in quotes. That is, I believe, in this case, we can definitely say that the supranational character of the modern liberal public is physically harmful for the people it governs.

It is hard to say how fast these suicidal processes will be. But judging by the scale of the processes and the way these processes are arranged, it can be very soon. You must agree, it’s hard to think of a greater nonsense than on all the TV channels to give a picture of how the Germans joyfully welcome refugees from North Africa. After all, in the same Syria, Ethiopia or Libya, this “advertisement” will lead to an increase in the number of times wishing to move to Europe.

Considering that in the EU over the past 20 years the ethnic composition is heavily diluted, I'm not talking about France, where this process has gone even deeper, this will undoubtedly cause very serious changes in the ethnic and religious map and greatly destroy the social stability of states, will cause everything related cataclysms. Here we can say precisely that the liberal European elite deliberately destroys their countries. For what? How? Perhaps many answers could give a conspiracy, but this fact remains a fact.

- Today in Russia there are patriotic forces capable of withstanding destructive influences?

- In Russia, the people have long been waiting and really ripe for a powerful patriotic movement, on which, strictly speaking, Mr. Surkov and so-called patriots are actively parasitic. Surkov is a real cast from Sarkozy, Hollande, Merkel, only transplanted to Russian soil. He is not tied to the country either culturally, or ethnically, or religiously, but he pretends to be an ardent patriot.

And, unfortunately, he is not the only one. I am often reproached for giving so much attention to one person; just against the background of absolutely faded gray mediocrity, which we have a lot at the top, it looks very bright. He is the most disgusting of them on business, but, unfortunately, perhaps the most effective.

However, we were distracted ... I believe that in Russia there is a basis for a patriotic revival and the return of real sovereignty in all spheres, especially in culture.

However, Russia still does not have national power. The last national power we had was 1 March 1917, in the person of Tsar Nicholas II. After that, there was some kind of surrogate under Stalin, when the vector swung in a certain direction, much returned to normal, but those who lived under the national power, like many immigrants, were not particularly noticed.

Therefore, unfortunately, the Russian people, like the imperial people, like most of the indigenous peoples of Russia, are not ready today to independently nominate a new elite. That is why the patriotic forces, potentially very powerful, remain fragmented and allow you to parasitize various kinds of simulacra on themselves, and they are molded now, as if from a cornucopia. Remember the 1997, 1998, 1999 years - the very word “patriot” was abusive. To call yourself a patriot was indecent. And now spit in any official - get into the "patriot". At the same time, back in 90, he was an ardent democrat, a liberal, a market businessman.

In this regard, I even want to praise such consistent bastards as Chubais, Kudrin, Gref. They do not hide their filth, which deserve even almost respect.
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  1. -12
    15 September 2015 06: 02
    He would have fought, Girkin, who was in the way, Cho climbed into politics ... Chatterbox!
    1. -11
      15 September 2015 06: 13
      Quote: name
      Girkin would have fought for himself, who was in the way, Cho entered politics ...

      Chatting with your tongue is safer, and politics is a profitable business.
      1. +30
        15 September 2015 06: 50
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: name
        Girkin would have fought for himself, who was in the way, Cho entered politics ...

        Chatting with your tongue is safer, and politics is a profitable business.

        And I like Strelkov more and more. I disagree with many people, but this is not the same mummy from the original videos.
        It has been hammered into our consciousness that politics is a dirty business. Do not do it. Let the "dirty people" do it. If someone thinks so, he has one gyrus, because two are already a lot.
        Words are not mine. General Petrova.
        1. -3
          15 September 2015 07: 02
          Quote: Babr
          I disagree with many, but this is not the same mummy from the original videos.

          To speak beautifully and correctly, one must also be able to and must learn this. Girkin learned.
          Valera, and I thought we have women who love their ears, but there are no men too.
          Quote: Babr
          And I like more and more shooters.

          Ears do wonders wink
          1. +17
            15 September 2015 07: 13
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Ears do wonders

            Romanov. The main thing is the brain in the head, and the ears .... this is a subsidiary farm. lol
            1. -12
              15 September 2015 07: 17
              Quote: Babr
              Romanov. The main thing is the brain in the head, and the ears .... this is a subsidiary farm.

              Here, a sound idea, but it does not fit with ...
              Quote: Babr
              And I like more and more shooters

              ... his meanness in Slavyansk. Only thanks to our FSB, SVR or to hell knows who, he left Donetsk alive. Will he return - they will break!
              1. +14
                15 September 2015 07: 31
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                his meanness in Slavyansk

                Yes, we do not know what really happened in Slavyansk.
                And we won’t know when. But if he had stayed there, he would have become a national hero.
                True only dead. And this banner would not have been waving, only lazy.
                1. -4
                  15 September 2015 07: 45
                  Quote: Babr
                  Yes, we do not know what really happened in Slavyansk.
                  And when we do not know

                  Well, why don’t we know. We wanted to interview an individual from Oplot, he told a lot, including about Girkin. For Slavyansk. For how Girkin came from there and what he did. How things are going.
                  So you know, he said a lot, but there was nothing to write.
                  Quote: Babr
                  But if he stayed there, he would become a national hero

                  Uh, he don’t need it, he is a hero for many people, so why die then wink
                  1. +9
                    15 September 2015 07: 56
                    All this is complicated, and judging by the details, you feel like a hedgehog in the fog.
                    Quote: Babr
                    But if he had stayed there, he would have become a national hero.
                    True only to the dead

                    Romanov, if you copy, copy completely. The meaning of what is said is lost. hi
                    1. -5
                      15 September 2015 08: 07
                      Quote: Babr
                      All this is complicated, and judging by the details, you feel like a hedgehog in the fog.

                      Especially listening to frank lies on TV.
                      Quote: Babr
                      Romanov, if you copy, copy completely. The meaning of what is said is lost.

                      Who cares to read everything, the rest ..........
                      1. +10
                        15 September 2015 08: 37
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Especially listening to frank lies on TV.

                        Are you talking about Strelkov? What was he lying to?
                      2. -3
                        15 September 2015 08: 40
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        What was he lying to?

                        And he only lied when he was in Slavyansk, and then in Donetsk.
                      3. +23
                        15 September 2015 08: 50
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        And he only lied when he was in Slavyansk, and then in Donetsk.


                        Again the favorite "blah, blah, blah"? Fact, at least one, documented !!!

                        With Strelkov, in contrast to you, with documents, fixing facts, and paperwork, everything was done very well + people who saw everything + "photo-video fixation".

                        And he, in which case, has something to "cover" ...

                        AND YOU WHAT? BLAH BLAH BLAH ?

                        Do you want to get off with common phrases in a crucial question when they accused Strelkov of lying ...

                        There is nothing to oppose, so do not open your mouth ... I would not envy you if you came to the "riflemen" who passed Slavyansk "from and to", with such abominations about their commander ...

                        And besides, in Slavyansk he did not "sit", but led the ACTIVE DEFENSE, as in Donetsk, did not "sit", but lined up the front line near Saur Mogila, and the "corridor". IN PLACE. IN BATTLE...
                      4. -6
                        15 September 2015 08: 58
                        Quote: Tanais

                        YOU WHAT? BLAH BLAH BLAH ?

                        That people from Oplot pull up, they will be forgotten here quickly, they don’t remember without Mat Girkin.
                        Quote: Tanais
                        I would not envy you if you got to the "strelkovites" who passed Slavyansk

                        Especially those whom he threw there and dumped in a quiet place with three curfew companies.
                        Quote: Tanais
                        There is nothing to oppose, and do not open your mouth ...

                        To send you?
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                      6. +19
                        15 September 2015 09: 42
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        That people from Oplot pull up, they will be forgotten here quickly, they don’t remember without Mat Girkin.

                        It's funny ... When you need, "Oplotovtsy" and "OPG", and "valuable witnesses" ... Turn like your own moorings, for the sake of your own, incomprehensible, but dirty goals ...

                        Svintus, you novels ... Not decent ...

                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Valera, when chaos is in the country, the authorities always take crime into their hands.
                        Pokapay about Zakharchenko and you will find out that earlier he was the leader of the OPLOT OPG. Now he has become a politician and the OPLOT is legalized. Any more questions?
                      7. +6
                        15 September 2015 11: 12
                        Quote: Tanais
                        Dig about Zakharchenko and find out that he was previously the leader of OPLOT OPG

                        I have already heard about this from the lips of people I don’t perceive now.
                        But this does not mean that this cannot be.
                        When Zakharchenko becomes unnecessary, it will emerge. In the quality of truth or falsification. But I think that will be so.
                      8. +1
                        15 September 2015 19: 46
                        In our society, being the leader of an organized criminal group is not the worst.
                      9. +1
                        16 September 2015 12: 01
                        Romanov, where is the answer? And in response - silence ...
                      10. +1
                        16 September 2015 11: 59
                        Romanov, the impression is that you are complementary to V. Surkov.
                        Honestly - does he pay you?
            2. +13
              15 September 2015 07: 25
              - Against the background of the ongoing drain of the republics of UkraineNoah there is a struggle for power, for money, for resources.


              What is it ? Typo?
              In fact, the drain is not UkrainianNoah, and Ukrainenot...

              So they are trying to drive us into the decaying body of the state 404, so out of breath in "reintegration" that they do not react to the expression "drain" ... They are in a hurry ...

              I want to ask: For whose cookies, such an enviable initiative and rush?
              1. +12
                15 September 2015 07: 52
                The USA does not need Putin’s honorary surrender; they need complete surrender, absolute and unconditional, which will lead to a sharp aggravation of the political situation in Russia and, as a result, the overthrow of Putin. That is, they are not going to gain a tactical victory, but a strategic one, and our mistake is that, having taken a strategic step towards establishing sovereignty, we decided to be satisfied with a loud, brilliant, but only a small tactical victory in the Crimea.

                that's actually why all the fuss ...
        2. +18
          15 September 2015 07: 37
          Putin’s actions to restore real sovereignty are being sabotaged. The opposition is in the immediate circle. I am sure that Surkov deliberately sabotages and harms ...
          ...
          That is why from the very beginning of Minsk, I immediately realized that we were talking about wrecking. Because initially an unattainable goal was set: to come to an agreement with those who basically do not want to come to an agreement. And to come to an agreement not even from a position of strength, which then, perhaps, would have been possible, but from a position of accepting all, even not yet advanced, demands of the enemy.
          - from the article, I. Strelkov - Girkin

          Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. An unattainable goal was originally set: to come to an agreement with those who basically do not want to come to an agreement.
          And again, "the king is good, the boyars are bad." There is no intelligible policy of President Putin V.V. He seems to be a patriot, but he keeps close and open agents of US influence, pursuing a pro-American policy, turning Russia into a raw material appendage of the West, thieves and corrupt officials, covering all this with the famous phrase "We are not 37 years old."
          Or maybe it's time to use the will and power of the President’s power, after all, for at least a decade and a half in power, and restore order, even in your inner circle, by removing the pro-Western lobby from your circle. Why can't he do this? Discredit on him? The shortage of personnel patriots? Himself so, one row with them?
          Some questions and misunderstanding of the position of our President.
          1. 0
            15 September 2015 10: 46
            Unfortunately, we are not Putin, we do not have all the information on the topic, most of it is held, for obvious reasons. Igor Strelkov, including. And therefore, we simply are not able to assess the situation and the adequacy of the measures taken.
            I agree on one point - the current leadership of LDNR does not inspire confidence.
          2. +1
            15 September 2015 14: 21
            what does it mean to hold? ... At least you don't carry a blizzard, people "make their way" there, do you understand what this word means? ... and it is not the smartest or even the most dexterous who make their way, but the most necessary and so far the most necessary not to Putin, but to strategists ...
          3. +4
            15 September 2015 19: 08
            The formula of capitalism: Money - Commodity - Money + Profit.
            Comprador capitalism formula: Money - Power - Big Money.
            That is, power (including state power) is just a kind of product. And you, dear VladimirZET, about some
            misunderstanding of the position of the President
            interpret.
        3. EVK
          -22
          15 September 2015 10: 00
          the most banal criminal, whose place in Kolyma for the rest of his life. For the massacre he organized in the Donbass to incite the Kremlin dilettantes.
          1. +13
            15 September 2015 10: 13
            Quote: EVK
            the most banal criminal, whose place in Kolyma for the rest of his life. For the massacre he organized in the Donbass to incite the Kremlin dilettantes.

            Well, if you consider Strelkov a criminal, it is logical to assume that you are a supporter of Bandera.
            In your opinion, they are angels, but the deeds stubbornly testify that they are "scumbags", criminals, homosexuals, fascists ...
          2. +5
            15 September 2015 17: 18
            Quote: EVK
            ... For the massacre that he organized in the Donbass to incite the Kremlin dilettantes.


            All wars over the last millennium (and more likely even earlier) are organized by one gang under the name "Order of the Priory of Zion", starting with the "Crusades". The rest are just spectators in the stalls, on which they always hang blame, according to the generally accepted principle: "Punishing the innocent and rewarding the innocent."
          3. +2
            16 September 2015 12: 10
            In fact, in Israel criminals, both political and military, and other small dime a dozen. In the end, they will decide the fate of your state. Either at the same time for everyone, or stretched out in time. In the Kolyma.
      2. +10
        15 September 2015 07: 00
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s safer to talk

        "Not everything is so simple" (C) the example of Viktor Ilyukhin suggests otherwise
        1. +10
          15 September 2015 08: 49
          Quote: rosarioagro
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It’s safer to talk

          "Not everything is so simple" (C) the example of Viktor Ilyukhin suggests otherwise

          There are many such examples. Petrov, Kvachkov, who is next? After such articles, there are fears that it will be Strelkov. Until now, such statements have not been forgiven to anyone.
          1. -9
            15 September 2015 08: 58
            Quote: Svetlana
            After such articles, there are fears that it will be Strelkov.

            If they put him in, I'll drink champagne.
          2. -11
            15 September 2015 10: 03
            Quote: Svetlana
            There are many such examples. Petrov, Kvachkov, who is next? After such articles, there are fears that it will be Strelkov. Until now, such statements have not been forgiven to anyone.

            Do not be afraid Strelkov will not be imprisoned, because he is GirkinD. Remember Ilf and Petrov have "Palkin, Chalkin, Malkin and Zalkind."
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            If they put him in, I'll drink champagne.

            Well, I'll drink champagne when they shoot him.
            1. -3
              15 September 2015 10: 04
              Quote: baltika-18
              Well, I'll drink champagne when they shoot him.

              Kolya against the idol wink
              1. -5
                15 September 2015 10: 33
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Kolya against the idol

                If you remember, Sasha, I have been against this idol since April 2014, from the moment this "pop Gapon" in its modern form appeared in the media space. So there is nothing new in my attitude towards him.
                1. -1
                  15 September 2015 10: 35
                  Quote: baltika-18
                  If you remember, Sasha, I have been against this idol since April 2014, from the moment this "pop Gapon" in its modern form appeared in the media space.

                  It’s a pity that you were right.
                  1. -2
                    15 September 2015 10: 42
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    It’s a pity that you were right.

                    What happened, happened. Although everything could be different, but history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood. We are only approaching the period of correction of errors, and have not even entered this period.
          3. +1
            15 September 2015 23: 03
            "There are many such examples. Petrov, Kvachkov, who is next? After such articles, fears arise that it will be Strelkov. Until now, such statements have not been forgiven to anyone."

            Doesn’t it seem strange to herself that he has already exposed so much and forgiven him everything?
            And what did you find in common between General Petrov and Girkin?
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      3. +4
        15 September 2015 09: 03
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes, and politics is a profitable business.

        And a lot arrives? wink
    2. +1
      15 September 2015 09: 56
      Totally agree!
    3. +7
      15 September 2015 10: 08
      Speak your tongue, dear, do not toss the bags!
      Do you fight a lot, without weapons, ammunition, food?
      Do you yourself fight while sitting on the couch?
  2. +10
    15 September 2015 06: 11
    To be honest, I don’t know who to believe. I see talkers rejoicing for the world, doing very little for this. The war went on and goes on, people both died and die. And the management is engaged in chatter and sharing of portfolios! Apparently the crisis came in the brains of the very authorities.
    1. -1
      15 September 2015 06: 34
      Quote: sl22277
      To be honest, I don’t know who to believe. I see talkers rejoicing for the world, doing very little for this

      And each kicks his heels in the chest and says that his "truth" is the most truthful.
      1. -3
        15 September 2015 07: 15
        Quote: sl22277
        I see talkers rejoicing for the world

        Now Strelkov is very reminiscent of the Ruin leaders who are to blame for Putin, Putin’s agents do not allow Putin’s agents to overthrow Putin’s agents, who lead the country into the abyss dug by Putin’s agents. The same comrade is surrounded by Surkov’s agents fighting with Surkov’s agents. Something tells me that Surkov at any moment may be in the place of the ambassador in some Trinidad and Tobago (not the worst place, by the way). And then who will have to blame for their mistakes and unwillingness to do business, not demagogy?
        1. +9
          15 September 2015 07: 32
          Quote: inkass_98
          Something tells me that Surkov at any moment may be in the place of the ambassador in some Trinidad and Tobago (not the worst place, by the way). And then who will have to blame for their mistakes and unwillingness to do business, not demagogy?


          And it will turn out if his plan for the implementation of "Minsk", and nothing else, fails ...

          And quite possibly, not in such a warm place.
          1. +7
            15 September 2015 07: 45
            Quote: Tanais
            And quite possibly, not in such a warm place.

            My friend, how did you bend. Remember Putin’s words? We don’t leave our own.
            True, this was said on a different occasion and in relation to other people.
            But here is indisputably mine.
            1. +4
              15 September 2015 11: 14
              Quote: Babr
              But here is indisputably mine.

              sometimes strangers are better than their own ...
      2. +14
        15 September 2015 07: 59
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And each kicks his heels in the chest and says that his "truth" is the most truthful.


        Not disputed! And so suitable for characterizing YOUR Alexander, actions Yes ...

        This is about YOUR statements about me as a "miner from Odessa" ...

        It seems to be true ... Yes, my profile, your system defines it as a "user from Odessa", and YOU, not heeding any explanations, foaming at the mouth, "fall" on "such and such" Tanais, "hiding under the guise " etc...

        But everything is explained by the FEATURES of the UKRAINIAN MOBILE INTERNET, and the location of the server (office?) ...

        So whose truth is "the most truthful"?

        PS: Maybe, for starters, you need to understand? What YOU are not used to doing ...
        1. +7
          15 September 2015 08: 11
          In truth, I have long understood in whose garden pebbles.
          You won’t be able to beat the whip. Do not pay attention.
        2. -3
          15 September 2015 09: 00
          Quote: Tanais
          But everything is explained by the FEATURES of the UKRAINIAN MOBILE INTERNET, and the location of the server (office?) ...

          Everything is explained by the fact that your last account was banned and you went for a walk on a proxy. Once deceived, there is no faith.
          1. +11
            15 September 2015 09: 24
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Everything is explained by the fact that your past account was banned and you went for a proxy walk. Once deceived and no faith.

            Look for treason all around, "zrada" ... Don't go crazy, finally, in your mania ...

            I have arguments, you don’t have ... You are a LIAR, novels ... And a miserable disgrace.
            1. -7
              15 September 2015 09: 35
              Quote: Tanais

              I have arguments, you don’t have ... You are a LIAR, novels ... And a miserable disgrace.

              Hey, you didn’t use anonymizer, I used it. He’s sitting here building himself.
              1. +8
                15 September 2015 09: 53
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Hey, you didn’t use anonymizer, I used it.

                Where is the evidence of using the "anonymizer"? Maybe there was a failure?

                For example, the oldest users have repeatedly said that often the location of the host country is (did) occur incorrectly ...
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Sitting here is building himself.


                Not "HERE" is sitting, but at home, in SHAKHTORSK, and not in "Odessa", and not "under a proxy" ...

                Is this, at least your little mind, able to assimilate?
                1. -3
                  15 September 2015 10: 12
                  Quote: Tanais

                  Where is the evidence of using the "anonymizer"? Maybe there was a failure?

                  Even the admin, having the ability to identify visitors, broke his brain.
                  [09.08.2015/13/46 40:076:XNUMX] Sanya XNUMX: Look at the aipi from where he is. Tanais
                  [09.08.2015/13/47 22:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: This is one of the banned
                  [09.08.2015/13/47 32:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: do not define IP by ip
                  [09.08.2015/13/47 44:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: always different
                  [09.08.2015/13/49 36:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: Odessa is now IP
                  [09.08.2015/13/52 27:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: there is also an IP from Moscow and China
                  [09.08.2015/13/52 34:XNUMX:XNUMX] Vadim Smirnov: where is he from?
  3. 0
    15 September 2015 06: 25
    By the way, as an ordinary citizen I am very interested in who is the REAL LEADER of the "Novorossiya" movement, Girkin or Gubarev. Who knows, answer, and ... feel Autumn, please ... winked
    1. -2
      15 September 2015 06: 35
      Quote: name
      Who knows, answer as well.

      Putin, there are no others there. There are no real leaders there at all.
      1. +6
        15 September 2015 07: 01
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Putin, there are no others.

        Why is it for Putin?
        1. -4
          15 September 2015 07: 09
          Quote: rosarioagro

          Why is it for Putin?

          Merkel, didn’t you tell?
          1. +7
            15 September 2015 07: 10
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Merkel, didn’t you tell?

            No, I didn’t say that, judging by your statement, you know this, so why should Putin?
            1. -3
              15 September 2015 07: 12
              Quote: rosarioagro

              No, I didn’t say

              Well, read the German press again. And judging by your comments in previous articles, you read the German press all the time.
              And in general, what do you not like about Putin sitting in Germany?
              1. +7
                15 September 2015 07: 18
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Well, read the German press again

                It is possible, but you are here on the site and you are unambiguously claiming that Putin is a leader in the "Novorossiya" movement, and unambiguously, without any "maybe", why not ask you, share your knowledge, why does Putin need this?
                1. -5
                  15 September 2015 07: 24
                  Quote: rosarioagro
                  , share your knowledge why does Putin need this?

                  When a person sitting in Germany asks me such questions, he emphasizes the same thing, I understand that an ordinary troll is sitting in front of me.
                  Do you care in Germany what Russia is doing ??? Or covered up with the flag of the USSR and suffered, does not roll.
                  1. +8
                    15 September 2015 07: 28
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    When a person sitting in Germany asks me such questions, he emphasizes the same thing, I understand that an ordinary troll is sitting in front of me.

                    No, not a troll, just here on the site if you ask someone a question, then the respondent tries to answer by setting out his point of view, his vision, for some reason you are referring to the media alone, an amazing thing, it seems that your statements are based on these the most "gay European" media :-)
                    1. -6
                      15 September 2015 07: 37
                      Quote: rosarioagro
                      No, not a troll, just here on the site if you ask someone a question, t

                      Before you answer, I read the comments of visitors. And especially those that they wrote earlier.
                      Reading yours, everything becomes quickly clear. The only thing that misleads ordinary visitors is the flag of the USSR, with which you covered the flag of Germany.
                      How is the weather in Germany?
                      1. +9
                        15 September 2015 08: 13
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        How is the weather in Germany?


                        You still ask me: How is the weather in Odessa? ...

                        I will answer you ... True, I have already posted a post here in response to your own comment about the "true truth" ...

                        But for you, the repetition of (learned?) Will not be superfluous ...
                      2. -3
                        15 September 2015 08: 45
                        Quote: Tanais
                        But for you, the repetition of (learned?) Will not be superfluous ...

                        You know what excites me the most? What Russia owes you! Must! Must! And whatever Russia does, it’s still worthless and always should.
                        Quote: Tanais
                        You still ask me: How is the weather in Odessa? ...

                        How is the weather in Odessa?
                      3. +6
                        15 September 2015 09: 04
                        Quote: Tanais
                        You still ask me: How is the weather in Odessa? ...


                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        How is the weather in Odessa?


                        Romanov to learn, only time to lose. Showed your level ... Yes

                        COMPLETELY, ALL OVER ...
                  2. +10
                    15 September 2015 08: 41
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    When a person sitting in Germany asks me such questions

                    Sanya, but nothing about the same server in Germany? wink
                    1. -4
                      15 September 2015 08: 43
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Sanya, but nothing about the same server in Germany?

                      There is nothing, since it is cheaper there 10 times. There will be reasonable prices in Russia, so we’ll move here right away.
        2. +6
          15 September 2015 07: 20
          Speaking of Gubarev, I dug up a lot of information. If necessary, I will post it.
          Romanov. The FSB will allow? lol
          1. -1
            15 September 2015 07: 27
            Quote: Babr
            Romanov. The FSB will allow?

            Yes easy. Gubarev is still that shot. Valera, when chaos is in the country, the authorities always take crime into their hands.
            Pokapay about Zakharchenko and you will find out that earlier he was the leader of the OPLOT OPG. Now he has become a politician and the OPLOT is legalized. Any more questions?
            1. +1
              15 September 2015 07: 59
              Not_a ........
              1. 0
                15 September 2015 08: 10
                Quote: Babr
                Not_a ........

                lol
                And he is as naive as an iceberg in the ocean. The Titanic did not think he could sink.
                1. +4
                  15 September 2015 08: 58
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: Babr
                  Not_a ........

                  lol
                  And he is as naive as an iceberg in the ocean. The Titanic did not think he could sink.

                  Romanov, talent disappears.
                  Do you want me to write what you answer?
                  You will not drink talent.
  4. +6
    15 September 2015 06: 33
    I agree with all that has been said. One can relate to Strelkovaya somehow, but he says obvious things.
    1. +2
      15 September 2015 06: 41
      Quote: WooDoo
      but he says obvious things.

      We all say obvious things, only some are already in power, and the second ones want to get power.
      1. +4
        15 September 2015 07: 24
        Such an opposition is better than bulk-Khodorkovsky-Kasparov’s
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      3. +4
        15 September 2015 12: 23
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        some are already in power, while others want to get power.

        And that the power has already been privatized? Oh, and it’s true that it’s me, I can’t get used to everything, that the power is not people's, but someone else’s.
    2. +1
      15 September 2015 09: 17
      Quote: WooDoo
      I agree with all that has been said. You can relate to Strelkovaya somehow, but he says obvious things.


      That's what kills. Simply voicing "obvious things" Oh, you can still like it. Although the above is not yours all your thoughts . Sometimes there are prompters, sometimes tips are used .....
      1. +1
        15 September 2015 12: 20
        By the "cons" I understand that some "PR" like phenomenon completely deny Yes laughing hi .
        1. -1
          15 September 2015 19: 20
          Well, I don’t know ... Fire on ..
  5. +4
    15 September 2015 06: 34
    The sharing (of armchairs) begins, and this is just in the hands of the junta, no matter how they play too much ...
  6. -1
    15 September 2015 07: 47
    You have not forgotten how to believe politicians? what they say about Strelkova. it is said by politicians who hide their true goals. Shooters were sent to distract attention from the Crimea, he coped with the task.
    1. +4
      15 September 2015 09: 22
      Quote: Gardamir
      Shooters were sent to distract attention from the Crimea, he coped with the task.


      ??????????? Where does infa come from ?! Are you out of your mind ?? Damn, like children ..
    2. +2
      15 September 2015 22: 52
      I have a different version. Strelkov was the head of security for the Orthodox oligarch Malofeev, who has a partner in America as a Baptist millionaire.
      Former curator, retired KGB general, oddly enough, has a major son, US Armed Forces.
      I saw with my own eyes how in the Rain near Sobchak Boroday mocked Novorossia, calling this project premature and predicting an early discharge. I don’t remember who Borodai was from Malofeev, but he is from the same team.
      My unconfirmed version is that the task of the Moscow political strategists was to drag Russia into the war in Donbass. VVP realized this in time and revoked its right to introduce the RF Armed Forces into the territory of another state. Well, then the militias, having understood the essence of the rifleman, politely asked to leave. The less reliable information, the ... "the thicker the partisans in the forest."
      1. 0
        15 September 2015 23: 19
        Quote: Balu
        My unconfirmed version is that the task of the Moscow political strategists was to drag Russia into the war in Donbass. VVP realized this in time and revoked its right to introduce the RF Armed Forces into the territory of another state. Well, then the militias, having understood the essence of the rifleman, politely asked to leave. The less reliable information, the ... "the thicker the partisans in the forest."



        Well, somewhere like that ... hi
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  8. -3
    15 September 2015 08: 31
    And actually, who is behind Girkin, that he takes the liberty of discussing a lot like a note politician? Why do some media persistently support the image of a certain unrecognized hero? At the same time, they stubbornly paint suspicious individuals in the power structures of Donbass. So this is beneficial to someone. I do not idealize its current leaders, but I am very wary of those who are trying to play some kind of dark game in the Donbass.
    1. 0
      15 September 2015 10: 33
      Who is the unrecognized by you? And who are you? Suvorov, Kutuzov, Zhukov? - Nobody can call ...
    2. +1
      15 September 2015 11: 02
      So VO regularly uploads interviews with Strelkov here, that is, it comes out.
      Quote: oracul
      stubbornly support the image of some unrecognized hero

      Neither Kasad nor the Russian spring, have long been spreading anything on this topic what
  9. +7
    15 September 2015 09: 23
    Strelkov clearly and unambiguously shows that in the Donbass KhPP sells Surkov, i.e., Surkov = Putin in the Donbass.

    The case of LDNR was brewed not without the participation of Russia and with great hope for it. Brewed, but was suspended under pressure from Russia.

    But one should firmly remember Lenin’s words on the topic that one shouldn’t joke with the uprising, begin to make believe of it, then to abandon it, here the principle is either - or.
    And he was a competent manager for rebellion and struggle ...

    I don’t really want Donbass to be a joke ...
    1. -5
      15 September 2015 11: 04
      The uprising of Ulyanov-Lenin, the Russian people cost too much. And Ulyanov promised not to regret most of the Russians, in order to achieve his idea of ​​a world revolution. He was an excellent Russophobe and executioner.
      1. +4
        15 September 2015 14: 24
        he preached internationalism. For them, there was no difference according to nationality ... confused with Russophobia just to spit, especially nationally minded individuals ....
    2. 0
      17 September 2015 16: 27
      Something is being said a lot about Surkov and his role in Novorossiya. "Show your proof."
  10. -2
    15 September 2015 10: 20
    There is one factor that was not mentioned here. - War is enormous expenses, in addition to casualties on both sides, and here and there - Russians (Great Russian, or Little Russian - not so important).
    And with finances we have now a problem. Preparations are underway for a major war, the rearmament of the Armed Forces, the accumulation of an arsenal - these are enormous costs ...
    In addition, time works for us - the population of Ukraine, after the deterioration in living standards and the worsening situation in Western Europe, where they so sought, will inevitably change its attitude towards the junta’s power.
  11. -1
    15 September 2015 11: 56
    It seems that Pushilin needs to do the dirty work of clearing the meadow, then they will get all the dirt on him and remove him. The process is underway and because of the windbreak, the light is already visible.
  12. +5
    15 September 2015 12: 53
    It is urgent to change the system so that there is no, as always:

    There are filters in which only the dirt goes up.

    As you look, who got to power in Russia, he’s taking a haste - 97% are corrupt jerks without shame and conscience, worthy only of hard labor or execution!
  13. +1
    15 September 2015 14: 23
    Well ... Igor Ivanovich, come on, strive for the helm of the Donbass, I’m sure many will support ... only for this you need to be made of steel ...
    1. -1
      15 September 2015 23: 52
      "Igor Ivanovich, come on, strive for the helm of Donbass,"

      Igor Ivanovich does not give, does not strive for the helm.

      "I am sure many will support ... only for this you need to be made of steel ..."

      Yeah, not Stalin.



      1. +2
        16 September 2015 09: 31
        I agree ... but I like from what angle he sees the situation and the solution to most problems ... without snot, which is so much in refined modern politics that many good people drown in them ...
    2. +2
      17 September 2015 16: 29
      Girkin to the kingdom? Can he do it? And what about his muddy former curator, whose son is a major in the US Armed Forces. No one has denied this yet.
  14. +1
    15 September 2015 15: 35
    Last Friday, a political crisis began in the Donetsk People’s Republic.

    The change of speaker and several dozen rallies in his support are not drawn to the political crisis. Please note that these dozens of protesters were allowed to block the road in the center of Donetsk, a front-line city, actually. From so the MGB in the DNI is bustling.

    Pushilin, since he is such a man - “please whatsoever”: whatever is ordered to him, he does everything. They will order him to hand over the Donbass, they will order him to hand over anything - he will do it.

    How can he interestingly pass the Donbass? Or troops obey him?

    Of course, this crisis is not good for the republics. Because this kind of "rat fight", disassembly of spiders in the bank, especially when they crawl out, have a paralyzing effect on both the population and the troops.

    What paralyzing effect? There all do not care for Purgin with Pushilin. Only a few dozen people took to the street. This crisis is in the minds of some of the divan troops, I think.

    Hollande is a Jew, so the problems of the French are of little interest to him.

    So Strelkova has a lot of Jewish blood, for that matter.
  15. +1
    15 September 2015 18: 09
    Something cool involved. They started about New Russia, and ended with indigenous peoples.
    Treba to think, and where is the catch?
    Marmots? Is he the president? lol stop
  16. +2
    15 September 2015 20: 30
    Look, what a jerk, this Beard!
    Gives interviews to enemy media - The Washington Post, "Rain" ...
    Betrayed his war commander, and even boasts of it, Judas!
    http://www.ng.ru/news/517200.html
    The shooters did not want to get dirty, turned out to be more noble than the traitor Beard.
    http://news.rambler.ru/politics/31346903/
  17. +1
    15 September 2015 21: 15
    Dear you, what are you commenting on? Strelkov, Surkov, etc., an article about the situation in the republics, that it is not so that Novorossia is already buried and it is no brainer, that the division is going on, the same can be seen not with an armed eye, that the Minsk-1,2, unnecessary and disastrous the same is clear, the Kremlin's policy in Ukraine itself (until recently it was generally incomprehensible and criminal), why I think it is not necessary to explain, so where the shooters are wrong, what does not sing "Putin's cunning plan of the mantra" has your point of view
  18. +2
    15 September 2015 22: 12
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    To speak beautifully and correctly, one must also be able to and must learn this. Girkin learned.
    Valera, and I thought we have women who love their ears, but there are no men too.

    And for the analysis of what he has heard, the head must work hard - it is not only to eat with it! There is a lot of correctness in his words. Think about why all strategies for the accelerated development of the country are ignored by the GDP and the government? After all, they are not offered by people from the gateway! And because "our" oligarchs do not need this, both in power and with the people they have installed and control! And Mr. Surkov is looking after all this elite from them with the appropriate powers! And no GDP will be able to cope with them, tk. it is not necessary to read the mantras of liberal capitalism, but to build a new socialist state, and they need it ?! angry
  19. +1
    15 September 2015 22: 57
    But why Donbass is silent, tell us couch strategists how it really happens there. I don’t understand how two GRU contract soldiers are captured. I don’t understand the strange story of a major who got lost with an ammunition truck. What really happens there. Did the banderlings really stop shooting and bombing?
    1. +2
      16 September 2015 07: 24
      For some reason, Baloo seems to me to have the guys cut off oxygen in terms of information, both here and here in Russia, so there will be changes only in which direction? No wonder all this is a dosed supply, and even then "the necessary material, conjectures, some unnecessary secrets, it is not without reason
    2. 0
      16 September 2015 07: 24
      For some reason, Baloo seems to me to have the guys cut off oxygen in terms of information, both here and here in Russia, so there will be changes only in which direction? No wonder all this is a dosed supply, and even then "the necessary material, conjectures, some unnecessary secrets, it is not without reason
  20. Bor
    0
    16 September 2015 17: 54
    They would have let us listen live, then it makes sense to discuss. And so ... I'm not sure how much everything is reliably stated from other people's words.

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