Ex-director of the CIA: it is time to arm the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Javelins"

Former CIA director David Petrius said that it was time for the West to start supplying defensive Ukraine weapons, including the Javelin missile systems, reports RIA News with reference to the channel "112 Ukraine".

“The time has come for the West to consider the possibility of providing Ukraine with weapons for protection, the American Jaavelins, short- and medium-range anti-tank missile systems”, - said Petraeus in Kiev at the meeting of YES (Yalta European Strategy).

“David Petraeus does not yet occupy official positions and does not represent the opinion of the United States. At the same time, the representative of the State Department, Victoria Nuland, who also took part in the discussion, avoided a direct answer to the question about the possible provision of weapons to Ukraine, ”the channel said.

Comments

[valday]

As usual, America does not need peace; they would rekindle the war in the Donbass in order to earn more.

[herruvim]

The European Union cannot cope with the influx of 500 thousand migrants. I wonder where they will get 40 million Ukrainians?

[Stalker.1977]

Maybe this is a new Hans Christian slip of the tongue .. or the journalists misheard, I think it was said to equip the Armed Forces of Ukraine with genies and Aladdin to send instructors ...

[Truth]

... with reference to the channel "112 Ukraine"

The whistle of pure water, no one will give them expensive "toys", they pissed away and broke everything that they had before, and everything that they were once given ...
Country 404 ... so that all of them would be bitten by mantels!

[Andrea]

Quote: herruvim
The European Union cannot cope with the influx of 500 thousand migrants. I wonder where they will get 40 million Ukrainians?

And they won’t get anywhere ... let's not forget about double, triple, quadruple standards.
There is no war in Ukraine ... therefore, goodbye, but the Americans have no desire.
It seems the Minsk agreements were signed ... and who said that the "Javelin" is a defensive weapon? It can very well be used in an offensive-hit at firing points, bunkers, pillboxes, houses, etc.

[marlin1203]

This one - a lover of journalists for "adultery" and fired? There are no direct questions of authority. Only "brake", in the east of Ukraine it seems like detente and for 2 weeks they have not fired. It is absolutely necessary to drive the ATGM there now, which Petya has been begging for for a year.

[Imperialkolorad]

I will be banal brains need to arm.

[mirag2]

The European Union cannot cope with the influx of 500 thousand migrants. I wonder where they will get 40 million Ukrainians? -Yes nowhere. REALLY you do not see -Europeans violet what is happening in Libya, Syria, as well as parallel to what will happen to the Ukrainian population. If only they did not get to them.
This situation is like some kind of handicap for the Russian Federation.

[vodolaz]

Really, come on. The same National Guard is a bunch of criminals and the Ukrainian authorities do not know what to do with them, and here they also give out more serious weapons.

[svetoruss]

You might think that Javelins are such a "wunderwaffle" like a Jedi sword, and having received their rabble, called by a misunderstanding the APU, will immediately become invincible, haha ​​three times ...

[marlin1203]

One of the best ATGMs in the world today

[SSR]

Quote: marlin1203

One of the best ATGMs in the world today

Maybe one of the most expensive? Personally, it seems to me that if you choose the price / quality ratio, the Cornet is better.

[anokem]

The cornet does not work on the "fire and forget" system. And does not hit the target from above

[aleks 62 next]

... Cornet does not work according to the "fire-forget" system. And does not hit the target from above ...

... And it is necessary ???? .... In my opinion, the system by which it is made is akin to the operation to remove the tonsils through the w..pu .... The dead end path .... There are simpler and more efficient systems ...

[Gouging]

But the RPG-7V works according to the "fire and forget" system. An old, but lethal Soviet grenade launcher has gathered such an abundant "harvest" that no Javelins have dreamed of a pair of "Cornets". And he will collect more.

[Dimka off]

Quote: Gouging

But the RPG-7V works according to the "fire-and-forget

it’s very dangerous and difficult to get to the tank at a distance of an RPG shot. Unless an ambush or street fight.

[weis-a]

and now it’s precisely these fights that will go on, so the old RPG will still prove itself.

[SSR]

Quote: anokem

The cornet does not work on the "fire and forget" system. And does not hit the target from above

Yes, I, too, can not hit from above, but from behind, and sometimes forget about the "shot" while hitting the target .... ... but the conversation is not about that .. Well, to the top, so what? Meehan attached a sign

Quote: MIKHAN

Javelins to Ukraine, this is the same thing that the militias donate for free! That's who is interested in a comparison ...

Others about the cost attached ...

Quote: Kil 31

They would have set up a long time ago. Just because a javelin shot costs $ 100000 doesn't mean anything to them. They just have paranoia about secrecy. Naturally, the part will go to the militia, and then it will go to us. But for some reason, it seems to me that they have long been lying in some sort of design bureau.

Quote: Kil 31

They would have set up a long time ago. Just because a javelin shot costs $ 100000 doesn't mean anything to them. They just have paranoia about secrecy. Naturally, the part will go to the militia, and then it will go to us. But for some reason, it seems to me that they have long been lying in some sort of design bureau.

This I am not on my own)) and if you can, deny it))) and Kornetovskie 1300mm about those if essentially.)))

[anokem]

Our Gil has repeatedly won against Javelin at tenders, the last time in India

[EGOrkka]

marlin1203
One of the best ATGMs in the world today

.... and that he is against a tornado and an iskander?

[Dimka off]

Quote: EGOrkka

.... and that he is against a tornado and an iskander?

You are comparing the incomparable

[EGOrkka]

.... and the war is different !!! they are waiting for you with "javilins", and you are on "iskander" ...... who said that the order will be?

[The boat]

Quote: EGOrkka

.... and that he is against a tornado and an iskander?

deep ... Clarify - against portable anti-tank

Quote: EGOrkka

tornado and iskander

[EGOrkka]

.... every general is preparing ....... for the last war.

[kotvov]

One of the best ATGMs in the world today,
perhaps, but don’t tell me how many armored vehicles he destroyed in combat, compared to at least the RPG-29?

[aleks 62 next]

.... One of the best ATGMs in the world today, ,,
perhaps, but don’t tell me how many armored vehicles he destroyed in combat, compared to at least RPG-29? ...

.... The question is complex and probably highly classified ... .... It came across that during the "Desert Storm" about 1000 pieces were used up .... True, the percentage of hits is not advertised .... I think that it is not ice, judging by the number and considering that Saddam's equipment was mostly burned by aviation ....

[aleks 62 next]

...... One of the best ATGMs in the world today ....

.... The key is ONE OF ..... But not the best .... A serious thing, but not a child prodigy, as presented .... There is a much cheaper and more effective solution to the problem that it solves ...

[fif21]

Quote: marlin1203

One of the best ATGMs in the world today

We also have pretty good neutron bombs! Can put a dozen militias Even the stalls will remain whole and there will be no fools!

[inkass_98]

Quote: svetoruss

You might think that Javelins are such a "wunderwaffle"

So that’s exactly what they think. Already gored these Kamlanii. A typical cargo cult at the Skakles: there is GOD PUTIN and GOD Javelin, they pray for them, contrasting each other.

[17085]

short and medium range anti-tank missile systems, ”Petraeus said in Kiev

[inkass_98]

Skakly think it will be like this:

[The boat]

Quote: inkass_98

Skakly think it will be like this:

HZ .. and suddenly - like this:

[aleks 62 next]

..... HZ .. and suddenly - like this: ...

... ... ...... !!!!!! .....

[inkass_98]

And it will most likely be like this:

[The boat]

Quote: inkass_98

And it will most likely be like this:

nda-ah ... I read the arrow chYurka from right to left?
and here is an example of a cool-headed operator:

[Dimka off]

probably everyone already knows that this is a purely staged explosion of a tank full of explosives)

[corporal]

Quote: inkass_98

Skakly think it will be like this:

Actually, this is TOW.

[The boat]

17085

so ....

[mirag2]

It will be so and that way and differently too.)))

[morpogr]

We are waiting for the retirement to openly declare from our side that if the United States supplies arms and equipment to Ukraine, Russia reserves the right to supply armed assistance to the DPR and LPR armies.

[veksha50]

Quote: morpogr

We are waiting for the retirement to openly declare from our side

Yeah ... Serdyukov declares that we will throw APU stools ...

PS But in general, the ignorance of the basic laws of physics by Amer and European politicians is surprising ... The strength of our opposition will be at least equal to the strength of their action - this in this case will have just such an interpretation ...

[Dimka off]

Quote: morpogr

if the United States will supply arms and equipment to Ukraine, Russia reserves the right to supply armed assistance to the army of the DNI and LC.

If I am not mistaken, then something similar already happened. Which of the deputies said that if this happens then Putin will easily be given permission again to use troops outside of Russia.

[reut.sib]

The time will come for David and his ilk to insert these same javelins into ....! Though rude but fair.

[Loner_53]

As the zombies were sickened up, let them not calm down until their puppets are in Cueva, no matter how Russia tries to solve the world, phishington will use Cueva's hands to kindle a fire on a ruin. Matrasia will not calm down until it gets

[Tusv]

Quote: svetoruss

You might think that Javelins are such a "wunderwaffle" like a Jedi sword, and having received their rabble, called by a misunderstanding the APU, will immediately become invincible, haha ​​three times ...

Do not forget that the Jewels, in addition to fighting tanks, are also imprisoned against fortifications.
Of course, this is not a panacea, for one Jeweline there is immediately a pair of three Cornets

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Javelins to Ukraine, this is the same thing that the militias donate for free! That's who is interested in a comparison ...

[veksha50]

Quote: MIKHAN

That's who is interested in the comparison ...

Hmm ... And what is there to think? I wrote there above - the force of action is equal to the strength of the reaction ..

Our technique in this case will be an unpleasant response to the supply of Javelins ...

Our characteristics will be better ...

[kil 31]

They would have set up a long time ago. Just because a javelin shot costs $ 100000 doesn't mean anything to them. They just have paranoia about secrecy. Naturally, the part will go to the militia, and then it will go to us. But for some reason, it seems to me that they have long been lying in some sort of design bureau.

[Black Colonel]

So last year it was infa that they hijacked a truck with "javelins".

[The boat]

Quote: Black Colonel

So last year it was infa that they hijacked a truck with "javelins".

yeah, there was a fake last August. Excitedly. They even said that "the Kharkov partisans tested the captured javelins." True, the story was not supported by any photos or documents, and in view of its obvious idiocy, it was quickly forgotten.

[Dimka off]

Quote: keel 31

But for some reason, it seems to me that they have long been lying in some sort of design bureau.

Does it make sense to take them to study? It seems to me that pushing a homing head into a PT missile and making it easy to attack the target is easy. Here the question is in price. The cost of Dzhevvelin or Spike is very high - Cornet will be much cheaper. Although Dzhevvelin's undoubted advantage - it shot and forgot.

[anokem]

And the RPG-7 is much cheaper than the cornet. A bottle with a Molotov cocktail is much cheaper than an RPG-7. Conclusion: the best weapon is bottles with a combustible mixture

[The boat]

Quote: anokem

A bottle with a Molotov cocktail is much cheaper than an RPG-7. Conclusion: the best weapon is bottles with a combustible mixture

[Egoza]

Let them give it! Ukraine has nothing to trade!

[Amurets]

Well put? Well, then? And then Ukrainian strongholds will burn even better. That's interesting so many fighters of the Armed Forces of the DPR and LPR will be asked for one Javelin.

[Castor]

Victoria Nuland ... avoided a direct answer to the question about the possible provision of weapons to Ukraine

Well, she couldn’t answer so bluntly: "We supplied the woodpecker with anything, no good. What we didn’t produce, we sold it."

[asar]

David Petrius said that it’s time for the West to begin delivering defensive weapons to Ukraine

David! Who are you going to supply "Jewelins" to ?!
The rabble, what type of APU ?! goblins, who only know how to thump on "blocks", "maneuver" through the villages in search of those that are younger, poke around in the pockets of the locals, in search of "for booze" ...!
Are you going to give Javelins to this rabble ?!
Oh well! Turned dill into Somalia, your mother!

[Castor]

Quote: asar

Turned dill into Somalia, your mother!

In Gabon, the Odessa governor said so.
Somalis should not be offended by such comparisons.

[Gormenghast]

But what about the "monkey with a grenade"?

And hasn’t it been said more than once - you will supply; shall we put down too?

We also have this stuff.

Then they will be surprised - where did the "Lhavelins" come from in the DPR.

And how did these spears end up in Africa, the Middle East, ISIS and (further add).
Rations are sold, and wunderwaffles will be sold.

[sl22277]

It is interesting it from whom dill gathered to defend themselves !? So far they are only attacking, but they are killing their own people!

[python82]

Shopkeeper and poser this is David. And pathos: “The time has come!” Or maybe the translator brightened up even more motivator.

[GeorgeSev85]

Ex-director of the CIA: it is time to arm the Armed Forces of Ukraine "Javelins"

Great news! Mr. Petrius, rather arm! They will come in handy for the militias !!!

[Stinger]

The time has come to clear the brains of the Javelins to this ex-leader.

[Mountain shooter]

"Javelins" of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will not help. Nothing and nothing. Yes, and normal dill will not shoot a rocket at a couple of hundred thousand greens. Sell ​​them to the militia for five thousand greens, and say that he set fire to two tanks. These ATGMs are just such a "fix idea", a psychologically important "beacon", a mark that will announce to the whole world that they have not abandoned us, the whole geyrop and mattress are behind us, forward, svidomye ...

[Pastor]

In case of violation of the rules for the supply of weapons (delivery to the territories covered by the civil war), take measures to end the existence of such a country as Ukraine in its present form, establishing "demilitarized zones".

[kerosene]

and the answer is not weak?

[roskot]

And Abrams are needed for testing. Send gentlemen, send. Replenish the arsenal of the DNI and LC.

[private person]

Enough of the pussy already measured, by golly like children.

[lukke]

What normal thoughts can be heard from

Petraeus gave his mistress Paul Broadwell access to his CIA email and other secret information. Documents evidencing his guilt were sent to a federal court in Charlotte, North Carolina. Petraeus agreed to plead guilty to unauthorized seizure and storage of classified materials. Indicate that he mistreated classified information, not only heading the CIA but earlier, while serving in the army

I read his biography and did not understand - who is he ?! philosophers, military or intelligence officer? in my opinion it’s just a balabol, because it’s not seriously engaged in anything ...

[Lelek]

The time has come for the West to consider the possibility of providing Ukraine with weapons for defense, American Javelins, short- and medium-range anti-tank missile systems, ”Petraeus said in Kiev.

The main thing is to throw in the idea, and then crawl and implement the baseline under the edge of Russia.
If someday (but this is unlikely) I begin to write, then my first opus will be "S.V.O.L.O.CH.I".

[zombie]

this bugger with Lavrov’s syndrome is trying to hiss louder than childhood flatulence

[zombie]

wrote the word g e th ... but the cheto was preserved not so)))

[Technologist]

Damn, why are these "Javelins" so PR ??? Are they a panacea for everything, including idiocy ??? I do not argue, maybe the weapon is not bad, but who will use it, you look at the ukrovoyak's faces, it feels like they are showing psychotic patients and drug dispensaries))) In general, our engineers are probably tired of waiting for them.

[TOR2]

Sooner or later "javelins" will appear in the ruin. There is a Stinger in one of our museums, so the exhibition can be replenished.
Laughter laughter, but our guys need to be protected somehow. It is clear that no one will give the equipment installed on the "Armata" in the LPNR. This is the reality. Then the question arises, what kind of countermeasures the militia can assemble on their knees using the means at hand. As I read that on the territory of the LPR there was a storage base for old aviation equipment. Probably many people remember on MI-24 there was such an interesting thing, SOEP-V1A optical-electronic jamming station ("Lipa"). This tricky thing created a pulse stream of continuously moving infrared rays around the helicopter, causing the rocket tracking system to swing. Unfortunately, she had a "dead zone" and she could not protect the board 100%. There will be no "dead zone" on the tank.
Let's analyze one more point. The net is full of videos with "Javelins" attacking the tank from the top. Take a look at the picture. The rocket is marked with an arrow. If the control was carried out only through the IR channel, then the rocket would hit the engine. With a high degree of probability, for an accurate hit in the tower, the rocket reads the tank's electromagnetic field.

[TOR2]

What the electromagnetic field looks like at the tank is shown in the figure. If additional aiming is carried out in this way, then with the help of emitters we distort the field of the tank. For example, let's draw a "tower" behind the tank or on the side. If the aiming is carried out in a different way (the autopsy should show) then we simply prevent the rocket from scanning the tank. As I already wrote in similar topics, is there enough on-board power for these devices.

[KRIG55]

It’s time, it’s time. For the stinger obtained by blood and then they promised the star of the Hero of the Soviet Union, and Javelin fat lovers themselves will sell for bucks.

[arrows]

It’s time for Mr. to be checked by a psychiatrist, senility is evident

[Weyland]

I remembered the joke:
The "brother" came to hunt a bear. Jeep - hummer, camouflage, super fancy assault rifle with night vision telescopic sight ...
He enters the forest, a man in bast shoes comes out to meet him, a typical village peasant in earflaps and quilted jackets.
Man:
“Oh dear man, where are you going?”
"Brother":
- To the bear!
Man:
- Yes, this is an ungrateful occupation ... Bear - OWNER! My grandfather walked with a horn, father walked with a berdanka ...
"Brother":
- Yes, you look! Automatic - at least an elephant wali ... Optics, bullets with a solid core ...
And goes into the forest.
Man:
- Yes, (pulled by shag) now it’s not worth going to the forest at all ... The bear now has not only a stag with a berdanka, but there will still be a machine gun with an optical sight ...

And now the bear will also have Javelins ...