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Small batches of the latest armored vehicles will go to the troops for trial operation next year.

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The tank and the heavy Armata infantry fighting vehicle, as well as the Kurganets-25 and the Boomerang armored personnel carriers, will enter the army for military tests in 2016 g, reports TASS message commander Ground Forces Oleg Salyukov.




“Currently, experimental development work on the creation of promising models of armored vehicles, such as tank and BMP "Armata", BMP "Kurganets-25" and BTR "Boomerang", are carried out in accordance with the terms of their execution. Completion is scheduled for 2016 with state testing- said Salukov.

According to him, the same year is scheduled "the supply of small quantities of this technology for the pilot military operation."

Help agency: "New tanks" Armata "received a desert tower, fully digital control and an isolated armored capsule, which houses the crew. The main armament of the “Almaty” is a gun of the caliber 125 mm, but in the future it is possible that the use of 152-mm guns ”.

As Dmitry Rogozin stated earlier, the “Atama projectile burns a meter of steel.”

Photos used:
Sergey Fadeichev / TASS, www.globallookpress.com
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  1. Darkmor
    Darkmor 13 September 2015 13: 43 New
    +21
    And they said that it is cardboard, and does not go :)
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 13 September 2015 13: 50 New
      +19
      In a hurry .... We need to hurry! Faster in a series ...! Time is tense men, we can not have time!
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 13 September 2015 14: 02 New
        +8
        Quote: MIKHAN
        In a hurry .... We need to hurry! Faster in a series ...! Time is tense men, we can not have time!

        It seems they planned to upgrade the T-90
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 13 September 2015 14: 10 New
          +17
          It seems they planned to upgrade the T-90


          The Russian Defense Ministry will consider the proposals of the Uralvagonzavod NPK (UVZ) to modernize the T-90 tanks that are in service with the Russian army, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov told reporters on Wednesday.
          "We have about 400 tanks delivered at the beginning of the 2000s. Almost 12-15 years have passed. They require updating. Therefore, we are considering the issue of modernizing this tank fleet," Y. Borisov said at the RAE-2015 arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagile.
          He noted that UVZ sent proposals of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation on the modernization of T-90 tanks to the T-90MS variant.
          "We will watch them seriously starting in 2016," the deputy minister said.
          According to him, this topic will be implemented as part of the current state armaments program - 2020.
          1. Tanais
            Tanais 13 September 2015 15: 48 New
            +9
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            The Russian Defense Ministry will consider the proposals of the Uralvagonzavod NPK (UVZ) to modernize the T-90 tanks that are in service with the Russian army, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov told reporters on Wednesday.
            "We have about 400 tanks delivered at the beginning of the 2000s. Almost 12-15 years have passed. They require updating. Therefore, we are considering the issue of modernizing this tank fleet," Y. Borisov said at the RAE-2015 arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagile.

            About the same intentions, to upgrade its T-90, to the level of MS, India declares ...
          2. KnightRider
            KnightRider 13 September 2015 15: 54 New
            +7
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            The Russian Defense Ministry will consider the proposals of the Uralvagonzavod NPK (UVZ) to modernize the T-90 tanks that are in service with the Russian army, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Yuri Borisov told reporters on Wednesday.
            "We have about 400 tanks delivered at the beginning of the 2000s. Almost 12-15 years have passed. They require updating. Therefore, we are considering the issue of modernizing this tank fleet," Y. Borisov said at the RAE-2015 arms exhibition in Nizhny Tagile.

            Also a necessary thing - modernization! T-72 and T-90 will still serve the motherland (and then you can sell it to third countries when Armat becomes larger)
            1. Stelth1985
              Stelth1985 14 September 2015 04: 41 New
              -5
              DO NOT sell weapons over a hill! Then it will go through us. They sold the same Kalash, and then they complain that the coffins are coming to us!
          3. tank64rus
            tank64rus 13 September 2015 18: 42 New
            +13
            Good idea. T-90MS is a great car. By its characteristics, it is not inferior to the best tanks in the world and even superior. Yes, and Armathe is inferior in security, in the rest it is on the level. For Armata, the future belongs to the T-90MS. Very beautiful car.
          4. igorka357
            igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 02 New
            +1
            What a modernization, we have Kalash, that the T-90 ... eight hundred modernizations have passed! We need to create new, unique weapons .. as they did in the Soviet Union! Yes, it’s clear that the Russian land has become impoverished, or there is no incentive for young geniuses to work in the homeland, in the USSR, designers lived in design bureaus, and they did things that are still relevant! Damn tired of all this AK-8009 of the 90th series, and the T-90 ISKPBT is a big upgrade! T-72MS, it's T .. Lada with a spoiler and a bucket instead of a silencer, and alloy wheels ..))))! We made new types of weapons, and we need all the strength in n invest them, and not engage in nonsense, and what kind of rifleman’s samples were cut for the sake of the usual “Kalash” in all kinds of body kits! Oh, thanks to Khrushchev for the fact that he riveted the missiles, of course the surface fleet was ditched, but if it weren’t for his supply made a huge emphasis, then I don’t know don’t know .. would there have been Russia mother right now or not ...
        2. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 13 September 2015 14: 15 New
          +6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Quote: MIKHAN
          In a hurry .... We need to hurry! Faster in a series ...! Time is tense men, we can not have time!

          It seems they planned to upgrade the T-90

          They will go in parallel ...!
          1. Voha_krim
            Voha_krim 13 September 2015 14: 21 New
            +2
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Quote: MIKHAN
            In a hurry .... We need to hurry! Faster in a series ...! Time is tense men, we can not have time!

            It seems they planned to upgrade the T-90

            They will go in parallel ...!

            Here, India also wants to buy a batch of T-90!
        3. vodolaz
          vodolaz 13 September 2015 16: 27 New
          +6
          Quote: Lord of the Sith

          It seems they planned to upgrade the T-90

          So one does not interfere with the other. Why write off normal tanks? In addition, the new cars have not yet gone into series and it will take a lot of time for them to be enough. Well, plus the financial component.
        4. Sharapov
          Sharapov 13 September 2015 18: 23 New
          -9
          Why upgrade? But Rogozin said that "the shell of Almaty burns (!!!) a meter of steel", it is clear - a cool special ...
        5. Amurets
          Amurets 13 September 2015 23: 57 New
          +1
          One thing is not a hindrance. Yes, it is necessary in a hurry. It is necessary to hand the equipment into the hands of those who will operate it, begin training the crews, It is necessary to work out mass technology on the stream, and not in the experimental workshops. Work on military tests, fine-tuning and launching in the series still remains . Remember the T-64, when it was taken raw into service, then it was necessary to create the T-72 and T-80.
      2. anokem
        anokem 13 September 2015 16: 22 New
        -16
        Vitalik, do not panic over honest people ... I give a tooth that the American 88 VDD and 101 VShD will not parade on Red Square and their shoe will not step on your land, whether you have Armata or not
        1. Eragon
          Eragon 13 September 2015 18: 18 New
          +8
          Quote: anokem
          I give the tooth that the American 88 VDD and 101 VShD will not parade in Red Square and their shoe will not step on your land,

          Oh really. Are you sure that T-90MS and T-14 will not pass through your land? You are not about us, but worry about yourself.
          And by the way, in a story not so long ago, other people's motorized brigades were about to parade around Moscow. True, four years later it turned out a little vice versa.
          1. anokem
            anokem 13 September 2015 21: 24 New
            -3
            Ours will not work, do not worry, firstly, the neighbors have neither the T-90 nor the T-14. Secondly, least of all we are afraid of conventional war, there are things much worse
            1. SALLAK
              SALLAK 13 September 2015 22: 17 New
              +2
              Do not be so sure ... what will happen and how no one knows ...
            2. victor
              victor 13 September 2015 23: 05 New
              +1
              I hope I understand what you had in mind. Especially the comment above. Especially considering that your allies do not fight with an equal opponent ... Especially the cons are not clear ... Or am I stupid ???
              1. anokem
                anokem 14 September 2015 09: 31 New
                -1
                You are not stupid. Cons set for the flag
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 10 New
                  0
                  In your case, it’s also possible for a flag, because in your comments there is zero informativeness, and zero sense! Your fellow countryman has professors, as well as warriors uh ..)) the rating is by no means the same .. they at least think and try to express arguments. .)))! So why are you offended ..))?
                2. abubakarovbutta
                  abubakarovbutta 15 September 2015 14: 29 New
                  0
                  If a person who has not heard this joke says: “Beat the Jews and cyclists!”, He will certainly ask: “What for cyclists then?”
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 06 New
          -1
          Do you know why it will not set foot ... because they will still lie down to the Red Square, and if they don’t have time to lie down, they will go through the ruins, and after a while they will chase everyone straight and Fushington, as they always did ... history is proof of that! !!!
      3. Mercenary
        Mercenary 13 September 2015 17: 46 New
        +12
        Haste is needed in three cases:
        1 for diarrhea
        2 when catching fleas
        3 when using someone else's wife.
        Nothing is said about tanks, so that the ancients said, "Hurry up slowly." And time is always stressful and still lacking.
      4. vvvvv
        vvvvv 14 September 2015 02: 47 New
        0
        Yars, Clubs, etc. have time that everyone understands, therefore, success in a greater degree can be for pulling in export options ... smile
        Not only the United States sells weapons, but in the budget of Russia this article is the norm ...
        Here in the next post is that India is in a hurry for the PAK FA ...
    2. ASK505
      ASK505 13 September 2015 13: 52 New
      +5
      quote = Darkmor] And they said that it is cardboard, and does not go :) [/ quote]

      And you easily believed Goebbels’s grandchildren. And before, what did we make tanks from chipboard, and did you check them with a hammer?
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 14 September 2015 00: 16 New
        +2
        Any tank, and other prototypes of complex equipment, began to be made with wooden layout models, so that it would be easier to rearrange, throw something out or add. By the way, abroad, if anyone does not know, model dies for drawing prototypes of the body are made of bitumen. Once enough.
    3. Linkor9s21
      Linkor9s21 13 September 2015 14: 02 New
      +10
      "Great Ukrainians" created their own "god-like stronghold"
      Although we T14 more in the army than they put their strongholds.
      And so they praise that everyone will sprinkle with saliva.
      1. EGOrkka
        EGOrkka 13 September 2015 14: 58 New
        +4
        Ruin will fight with Poland. we need their strongholds?
      2. KnightRider
        KnightRider 13 September 2015 15: 45 New
        +7
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        Although we put T14 more in the army

        Not yet set ... Next year. But you are right, there are more T-14s made to date than Oplotov smile
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 13 September 2015 16: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        Although we T14 more in the army than they put their strongholds.
        According to him, for the same year (2016), "the delivery of small batches of this equipment for pilot military operation" is planned. I didn’t understand - “we will deliver in the next year”, but put more of their Bastions than they did - is this how to understand? What is this fruit of violent fantasy? laughing
      4. Bayonet
        Bayonet 13 September 2015 17: 38 New
        -3
        Quote: Linkor9s21
        Although we T14 more in the army than they put their strongholds.

        They are not in the army - deliveries of small parties will begin next year !!! Why engage in self-deception? Be proud for now that we have “Tsar Cannon” and “Tsar Bell”! Well, talkers are not measured ... hi
    4. st25310
      st25310 13 September 2015 15: 32 New
      +27

      Here it is in all its glory!
      1. Nikoha.2010
        Nikoha.2010 13 September 2015 16: 05 New
        +3
        Thanks Zhenya for the video! hi
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 13 September 2015 16: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: st25310
        Here it is in all its glory!

        and let the “partners” send a copy of the video to drool. laughing
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 13 September 2015 16: 29 New
          +2
          Tanks are not afraid of sanctions?
      3. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 13 September 2015 16: 19 New
        +5
        Thank you for the video !!! soldier
        It remains only to see. good
        Well for tankers day drinks
      4. Now we are free
        Now we are free 14 September 2015 14: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: st25310

        Here it is in all its glory!

        From a comment on a YouTube video ...

        It all started with the casting of the great Oplot tanks.
        3 "Bastions" were given to the elves (Baltic states), who valued SS parades and sprats above all else.
        7 are given to the gnomes (Thais) - the great rice earners and masters of transvestism.
        and 9, nine tanks were handed over to Ancient Ukrain - immortal creatures, the wisest and most just of all living.

        But they were all deceived. Because another tank was made.
        In the country of Mordor, on top of the fateful mountain of the Uralvagonzavod, the Kremlin sovereign Putin secretly created a single tank of T-14 sovereignty, subordinating all the others. And in this tank he put all the knowledge, all the technologies and developments brazenly stolen from the Ancient Ukrov. One tank that can rule everyone !!!
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    6. gattus
      gattus 13 September 2015 16: 39 New
      +2
      It was necessary to offer the speaker a similar stick his head in the run and check for "cardboard".
    7. marlin1203
      marlin1203 13 September 2015 23: 21 New
      +1
      As Dmitry Rogozin previously stated, the "Almaty" shell burns a meter of steel
      Rogozin zhzhot and not a shell! laughing They would indicate at least the type of shell and the type of armor or something. Anyway, 152 mm - that would be "our answer to Curzon", otherwise "use is not ruled out" soldier
    8. shooter18
      shooter18 13 September 2015 23: 49 New
      0
      Who spoke? anal and germans? one already feeds worms, and the second is getting used to the ground)))
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 September 2015 13: 44 New
    +12
    What a beautiful all of our technique!
    Pride takes!
    That is why the Anglo-Saxons are furious, and the whole minx is mericatous!
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 13 September 2015 15: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      What a beautiful all of our technique!
      Pride takes!
      That is why the Anglo-Saxons are furious, and the whole minx is mericatous!

      And read about the "Sun"

      http://cont.ws/post/120941

      Know our !!!!!
  3. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 13 September 2015 13: 47 New
    +9
    I watched the Military Acceptance program about Armata today at the Star - a lot of impressions!
  4. KGB WATCH YOU
    KGB WATCH YOU 13 September 2015 13: 48 New
    +7
    The Zvezda shopping center website has released the Military Acceptance issue, which is dedicated to the Armata platform (Tank, BMP, ARV)
    Link: http://tvzvezda.ru/schedule/programs/content/201412231323-1cpc.htm/201509081652-
    cpwa.htm
    1. figwam
      figwam 13 September 2015 15: 18 New
      +3
      The site of the Zvezda shopping center has released the issue of Military Acceptance,

      Yes, I looked at the "Star", I am conquered by this tank, just pride in ours.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 13 September 2015 16: 25 New
        +6
        Quote: figvam
        I am subjugated by this tank, just pride for our

        after watching the same under the impression.
        very pleased that among the youth developers a lot good
      2. KnightRider
        KnightRider 13 September 2015 17: 35 New
        +15
        Quote: figvam
        Yes, I looked at the "Star", I am conquered by this tank, just pride in ours.

        And what a tram! I wish I could launch one in my city ... smile I believe that our military production and military technology will also pull in civilian industry. And they pull after all! ..
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 13 September 2015 18: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: KnightRider
          And what a tram!

          I wonder what kind of caliber 125 or 150 lol
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 13 September 2015 22: 13 New
          +4
          Quote: KnightRider
          And what a tram! That would be such a run in my city ..

          Dreams, dreams ... And in what condition is the railroad track in your city, and the power economy, the stopping complexes, who will serve it - men in oiled overalls? I ask, because I’m a little familiar with this system - a friend works there, has been and seen.
          You know, there was such an anecdote - a man (intellectual) comes to the bathhouse: “be so kind as a ticket for one person”
          And to him in reply: “My dear man, why aren’t you going to wash?”
        3. Amurets
          Amurets 14 September 2015 00: 26 New
          +2
          They should have pulled it. Americans, without thinking slyly, take the best samples of equipment and devices when modernizing old weapons. And cheap and an incentive for production.
        4. Hort
          Hort 14 September 2015 16: 52 New
          +2
          This unfortunate TRANWAY has been driving on the Internet for about 5 years, but it has not yet appeared in any of the declared cities (Peter, Novosib, Yekaterinburg). And it is unlikely to appear in the next few years
          1. igorka357
            igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 19 New
            -1
            But the point is not this ... the point is that if necessary it will be done, because they can and can!
        5. igorka357
          igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 18 New
          0
          Where do you live and how old are you ..))) in a good sense of the word ..)))? The military-industrial complex has been pulling a citizen from time immemorial ..))! Most military technologies are involved in the civilian industry, even the Internet is purely military development, together with Google and an explorer ..))!
    2. KnightRider
      KnightRider 13 September 2015 15: 43 New
      +4
      Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
      The Zvezda shopping center website has released the Military Acceptance issue, which is dedicated to the Armata platform (Tank, BMP, ARV)

      I looked! No words only emotions! And this is only a small part of what they showed! Armata delighted me even at the Parade, because there were still prototypes, but now they are pre-production ... And when they go into the series they will become even better! good
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 22 New
        0
        Everything was fine, we made it up ... but too quickly, the prototypes seemed to be just, and now they’re pre-production, and a year later they’re in production ... remember how many T-64 tormented you, they only finish a good tank for about five years! you only need to know what matters!
  5. kolkulon
    kolkulon 13 September 2015 13: 49 New
    +3
    We are waiting for the video from the test sites, where the equipment will be driven both in the tail and in the mane.
    1. lukke
      lukke 13 September 2015 14: 09 New
      +2
      test sites at design bureaus, and here -
      for experimental military operation
      , i.e. in the troops. I am sure the Kantemirovs and Tamanians will receive)))
  6. GDV
    GDV 13 September 2015 13: 54 New
    +5
    T-72 to Syria, T-14 to the Russian Federation.
    It is logical, however.
    1. scientist
      scientist 13 September 2015 14: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: GDV
      T-72 to Syria, T-14 to the Russian Federation.
      Logical however

      I also thought about it. Here are just a trial operation in the troops is not much different from testing at the test site. Basically, this is necessary in order to deal with the principle of retraining of crews and “childhood illnesses” of new technology to cure, this is 1-2 years. Then you can go to Syria, try in real combat conditions, the rates of modern rearmament are too high.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 27 New
        0
        T-14 St. Syria ..? Do you think what you’re talking about ...? God forbid it falls into the hands of enemies, such a hi will rise, we are now blamed for all sins ..))) we are sending the divisions to Ukraine, and they are dying and dying there ...)) here also in Syria ... they say half of Russia is fighting in Syria .. we told you the Russians are aggressive, they need to be destroyed ...))))!
  7. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 13 September 2015 13: 57 New
    +6
    Russia's economy is torn to shreds, said one niger. Mnda.
    1. sounddoc
      sounddoc 13 September 2015 14: 16 New
      +23
      Dear, have a conscience! What, nigga, niger? You need to be more tolerant and say this: "one who loves same-sex relationships and has oral sex with men is African American!")))
      1. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 13 September 2015 15: 50 New
        +7
        Quote: sounddoc
        male african american

        one black jo. pi. One tolerance. All letters are literary.
        There is a Caucasian race and Europeans are tolerant.
        There is a Mongoloid race and the Mongols and it is tolerant.
        And is there a black race and blacks for some reason is not tolerant ?!
        Like in that joke. The girl from the pioneer camp arrives, recovered of course. He spins in front of the mirror and tells his mother: Well, I and the joe ate in the camp!
        Mom told her the words jo no such! She spins another minute and again: Strange! Jo is, but no words!
      2. victor
        victor 13 September 2015 23: 09 New
        +1
        Excuse me, no one has really explained yet, but what do you call blacks who have not yet moved to the geyropu ??? African-Africans? A bit non-white? Gutalins ???
        1. Hort
          Hort 14 September 2015 16: 53 New
          +1
          negatives
  8. Ronino
    Ronino 13 September 2015 14: 04 New
    +6
    Tell me, how do optical devices behave on such devices when high-explosive ordnance hits or when dynamic protection is triggered?
    thanks for the answer !
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 13 September 2015 23: 20 New
      0
      Quote: RoninO
      Tell me, how do optical devices behave on such devices when high-explosive ordnance hits or when dynamic protection is triggered?
      thanks for the answer !

      If we consider purely optical devices, then when a shell hits the armor with optical devices, if there is no contact with the device itself or hit by fragments, then nothing happens with optical devices, even the accuracy of aiming does not change. In the T-14, it seems there is no optical sight that was on old tanks, because the fighting compartment is not even mechanically connected to the control compartment. Aiming, most likely. produced through fiber optic sight. I believe that it is more reliable than glass and if fragments hit, some of the optical fibers will deteriorate, well, the picture on the monitor screen will simply be worse. And the image from the optical fiber sight gets into the computer and then is converted into an image on the monitor. How the electronics behave in the tank, I can’t know, because there were no such tanks in Russia before. The Americans once read, there was a power outage and a malfunction of the operating system, and they were waiting for it to reboot, but this, of course, is not shameful Windows, but a special very compact system on processors and solid state memory, so it reboots after time is very minimal. I suppose that all the problems of modern electronics have remained, because when a shell hits the armor and when it explodes and burns, a strong electromagnetic surge still occurs. I hope, of course, that modern designers have gained access to the development of rocket launchers, which back in the 70 years, learned to protect the electronics of the warheads of nuclear charges and launch and control computers from electromagnetic effects from nuclear explosions.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 13 September 2015 23: 25 New
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        If we consider purely optical devices

        Eh .. be inside it .. dream laughing
      2. igorka357
        igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 34 New
        -1
        The projectile’s approach to the tank in time is minimal ... figured out what kind of reboot you are playing the shooter .. a slight delay in the actions of the tank, or its crew in intense combat, is usually fatal for the latter!
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 13 September 2015 23: 28 New
      +1
      Better tell me how the crew behaves in this case ..

      Colleagues, like the former a little in the tank - I know that this is a very sonorous piece of iron .. landmine - on the tank - the crew is deaf, at least .. and you’re arguing about the survivability of the FCS ..

      Phe ..
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 14 September 2015 21: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Better tell me how the crew behaves in this case ..

        Colleagues, like the former a little in the tank - I know that this is a very sonorous piece of iron .. landmine - on the tank - the crew is deaf, at least .. and you’re arguing about the survivability of the FCS ..

        Phe ..

        Wikipedia:
        "High-explosive shells are mainly intended for firing at non-concrete defensive structures: trenches, wood-earth (DZOT) and wood-based firing points, observation posts, etc. In addition, large-caliber high-explosive shells can be used in conjunction with concrete-piercing shells for firing at concrete defensive structures - to long-term firing points (DOTs) - mainly for removing earth embankments from the latter. Ricochet firing with high-explosive shells can be successfully used for selling yvaniya passages in minefields.
        In the absence of high-explosive and high-explosive fragmentation shells, high-explosive shells can be used for firing at open live targets, and in the absence of armor-piercing shells - for firing at tanks. In these cases, the action of high-explosive shells will be significantly inferior to the action of the shells they replace.
        In aircraft artillery, small-caliber high-explosive and high-explosive tracer shells are used for firing at aircraft. "

        Strong doubts that the anti-tank gun or tank have purely high-explosive shells. The rest of the artillery in the trenches (on the front line) does not have such destructive force and the use of high-explosive shells, well, this is only from desperation and powerlessness against tanks.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 36 New
          -1
          Oh, oh ... I basically thought so, about such specialists))! Wikipedia .. a powerful thing, you can say that ..))!
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 15 September 2015 09: 06 New
            0
            Quote: igorka357
            Oh, oh ... I basically thought so, about such specialists))! Wikipedia .. a powerful thing, you can say that ..))!

            And where do you get information from the Internet, probably? Also probably specialists write for you? Or maybe you, personally, the designers of new military equipment in the morning put reports on the table.
            And if you don’t like the information about landmines on Wikipedia, then why are you too lazy to do a search for information on this issue and tell the “truth” to other readers. You all know where the truth is, and where the truth is not.
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 18 September 2015 04: 14 New
              0
              Listen dear, in the Wikipedia article about the landmines, I can personally make an addition, and it will appear there, anyone can leave the info on Wikipedia, will they check it and supplement the article, figured it out? I don’t think that the modders on Wikipedia are landmine specialists ..) ))!
  9. roskot
    roskot 13 September 2015 14: 07 New
    +5
    The troops are waiting for new armored vehicles. And we are waiting for the drivers to press the starters in the woods, in the hills, in the water.
  10. Stas 86
    Stas 86 13 September 2015 14: 13 New
    +4
    I want such a swell! repeat
    Example:
    Create on the Armat platform a BMPT type (terminator), let the T-17 put a combat module
    2 guns twin 57 mm AU-220M (600 rounds per minute) and UR aviation 152 mm.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 13 September 2015 15: 30 New
      +1
      Grandmas come on! wassat
      1. Stas 86
        Stas 86 13 September 2015 15: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: muhomor
        Grandmas come on! wassat

        13% is no longer money?
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 13 September 2015 16: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Stas 86
          13% is no longer money?

          Let's say, very conditionally, the final cost of Almaty, 300 million. rubles - the average 25, P, as 000 13 - 3500% - let it be 7140. And in order to build a tank on them - you need to work XNUMX years ..... laughing
          1. Stas 86
            Stas 86 13 September 2015 16: 54 New
            +3

            13% of all profits in the Russian Federation, my crumbs are also present there,
            then I have the right to want and demand the T-17 laughing
          2. igorka357
            igorka357 15 September 2015 04: 37 New
            -2
            Now count the entire population of Russia wise guy!
            1. Stas 86
              Stas 86 15 September 2015 11: 31 New
              -1
              Do not worry, I can count!
              Are you feeling bad with humor?
              Download from my branch.
  11. Averias
    Averias 13 September 2015 14: 41 New
    +6
    Friends, if anyone is interested, here is the link to the "cloud" of mine, there are photos and videos of the RAE 2015 exhibition. Yesterday I just returned, posted it. All videos are 10GB in size.

    https://cloud.mail.ru/public/N5eY/NPzhpvVKm
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 13 September 2015 18: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: Averias
      there photo and video exhibition

      where are the tankmen celebrating already ??? laughing
      1. Averias
        Averias 13 September 2015 20: 25 New
        0
        So this, passed by with his doggie, well, and asked to guard laughing , they say, you need to leave for a minute laughing . So my dog ​​sits, guards. The truth is not clear who laughing
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 13 September 2015 23: 28 New
        -1
        Quote: Dryuya2
        where are the tankmen celebrating already ???

        Where the "Terminator" of tankers is gone. "And darling will not know which tanker was the" end "."
      3. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 14 September 2015 21: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Dryuya2
        where are the tankmen celebrating already ???

        Once again, I remind you, stubborn minuser. “Fire fighting vehicle Terminator” has nothing to do with the holiday Tanker’s Day, because - this is not a tank and, in addition, this machine is not accepted for service, and since it is not a tank and it was created for the very effective destruction of tanks, this type of combat vehicle belongs to artillery systems of self-propelled guns. The gunners have their own holiday.
  12. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 13 September 2015 15: 11 New
    +10
    That's okay.
    This year - state tests.
    А the next is military tests and climate.
    The main thing is that they should not be in a hurry with the troops - they are ARCHIs important for eliminating childhood diseases of new technology.
    Good luck to Mazuta and ... again with the Holiday, men.
    drinks
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 13 September 2015 23: 46 New
      0
      And by the number - who will determine what kind of car? Bat, company, platoon?

      Yes, purely for fun .. began to count, drunk strayed laughing
  13. 44 World
    44 World 13 September 2015 15: 29 New
    +2
    good good good news good good
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider 13 September 2015 15: 57 New
      +4
      Now we are waiting for the video about the "Boomerang" from the "Star"! soldier
  14. APASUS
    APASUS 13 September 2015 15: 46 New
    0
    These machines must be dragged to Syria for a full set of tests.
    1. mvg
      mvg 14 September 2015 00: 44 New
      0
      steal and sell
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 14 September 2015 07: 39 New
        0
        Quote: mvg
        steal and sell

        I understand what a bunch of objections I can meet, but it’s almost impossible to verify the reliability of some systems firing at plywood shields at a firing range. It is combat experience that can show all the disadvantages and advantages of this complex.
  15. NDR-791
    NDR-791 13 September 2015 15: 51 New
    +2
    Well, what do you say, everything is according to plan. I hope that just in parallel with military tests, the equipment will be produced. This is not the first time we have it (especially in terms of armor) when it was adopted into service before the end of field trials. And quite successfully adopted ...
  16. Evil 55
    Evil 55 13 September 2015 16: 22 New
    +4
    Santa Claus and Russian dirt will show what these new army toys are worthy ...
  17. mamont5
    mamont5 13 September 2015 17: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: MIKHAN
    In a hurry .... We need to hurry! Faster in a series ...! Time is tense men, we can not have time!

    Everyone is in a hurry. Today I read that amphibious schools have increased the number of accepted cadets "due to the tense world situation."
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    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 13 September 2015 20: 26 New
      0
      Quote: 511
      it turned out it's still a layout

      Yeah shooting mockup with full functionality good - military tests next year of this "layout", and then mass production of military "layouts"))))
  19. Resistance
    Resistance 13 September 2015 18: 49 New
    +5
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Time is tense men, we can not have time!


    Time is like time. From the 80th to the 83rd, there was only talk that we had 41st year. They drove for "retaliatory measures", like wounded leopards. Who will get on us? Their liberal-managers in high positions are more dangerous
  20. tinibar
    tinibar 13 September 2015 19: 29 New
    +4
    I wanted to express my opinion. Russia also needs the modernization of the t-90, because the cars are quite young and will still serve well, the main thing is that the modernization does not cost more than Almaty. And with the t-14 rush is not needed. I think the approach is correct. To buy a little and identify weaknesses for speedy elimination, so that the money does not overspen. The machine is fundamentally new and all sorts of surprises are quite possible. We can’t make mistakes right now! In general, I think it is wrong for the MO to refuse to purchase t-90am (ms). If they were now being sent to the troops, we would not be so dependent on the successes or failures with the tests of Armata. Although the project of Almaty resulted in the T-95 IRON CAPTURE, which was quite ready for the series, and the t-14 finish was probably quite high. But the fact that Armata has a great future, I have no doubt! Do not forget that Armata is a platform. And the T-14 is not called MBT, but a medium tank, and the 152mm gun is always heard. So, the appearance of a heavy is possible. And the creation by Shamanov of heavy brigades with tanks in the Airborne Forces will probably entail the creation of a light version of Almaty. Good luck, Armata! Good luck and patience, UralVagonZavod!
  21. mamont5
    mamont5 13 September 2015 19: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: 511
    . I then thought it was a sinful thing already in service in Kantemirovka, but it turned out to be another model.

    Actually, nobody particularly hides the situation with Armata (this is about the armament of Kantemirovka). And where did you get the idea that this is just a layout?
  22. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 13 September 2015 21: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Darkmor
    And they said that it is cardboard, and does not go :)


    So cardboard fools and say. What to take from them if the people don’t go skiing?
  23. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 13 September 2015 21: 58 New
    +1
    Congratulations to all tankers and all who make this mighty technique on Tankista Day!
  24. MolGro
    MolGro 13 September 2015 22: 24 New
    +4
    It all started with the casting of the great Oplot tanks.
    3 Strongholds were given to the elves (pro * balts), who valued SS parades and sprats above all else.
    7 are given to the gnomes (Thais) - the great rice earners and masters of transvestism.
    and 9, nine tanks were handed over to Ancient Ukrain - immortal creatures, the wisest and most just of all living.
    But they were all deceived. Because another tank was made.
    In the country of Mordor, on top of the fateful mountain of the Uralvagonzavod, the Kremlin sovereign Putin secretly created a single tank of T-14 sovereignty, subordinating all the others. And in this tank he put all the knowledge, all the technologies and developments brazenly stolen from the Ancient Ukrov. One tank that can rule everyone !!!
    1. GDV
      GDV 13 September 2015 23: 03 New
      +1
      Thanks neighing. According to the Yatsenyuk-Gollum scenario?
  25. Cat man null
    Cat man null 13 September 2015 23: 11 New
    +1
    Armata is a constructor. New, cool, but for now - a set of Lego.

    Until they make a real car out of it .. well, at least a year, two, is normal. Next - how it goes.

    IMHA, yes
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 14 September 2015 21: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      at least two years is normal

      The main thing is that it already exists! And she shoots!
  26. lecturer
    lecturer 14 September 2015 00: 10 New
    0
    Now I’m looking at all of our ARMATU equipment (!) And I think that already the entire “Euro-Mars arm-armada” is being built according to the mandranger to absolve “their” sins. Otherwise, why did these “guests” often go to the Crimea, then simply “to Russian citizenship”? Even the “macaque boxer" promised to learn Russian ...
    1. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 14 September 2015 06: 51 New
      0
      Quote: morpod
      Even the "Macaque Boxer" promised to learn Russian

      Don’t do so about Roy Jones, he gained a little respect with his achievements.
  27. Old26
    Old26 14 September 2015 00: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: NDR-791
    Well, what do you say, everything is according to plan. I hope that just in parallel with military tests, the equipment will be produced. This is not the first time we have it (especially in terms of armor) when it was adopted into service before the end of field trials. And quite successfully adopted ...

    The Armata is too different from our other tanks. Here, "hurry up slowly." It is not known what jambs will climb, but in parallel you offer to produce already. Gather a small (military) series - and let them. they drive her. And not only in Kantimirovka

    Quote: lukke
    those. in the troops. I am sure the Kantemirovs and Tamanians will receive

    I would limit myself to only the Kantimirov division in the Central Military District, the rest of the vehicles to the Caucasus, the Far East, the north, somewhere where there are desert areas. That is, in full, in different climatic zones ...
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 14 September 2015 21: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Old26
      in full, in different climatic zones ...

      Five points!
  28. Old26
    Old26 14 September 2015 14: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Old26
    I would limit myself to only the Kantimirov division in the Central Military District

    I apologize for the typo. WEST Military District
  29. wild weld
    wild weld 14 September 2015 15: 52 New
    +1
    I would like the armature to be perfected by eliminating childhood diseases and improving shells
  30. Postscriptum
    Postscriptum 15 September 2015 16: 04 New
    0
    probably, the best test for “Almaty” would be a sort of “cruise” across the country, like the famous T-34 line on the eve of the war: on the route St. Petersburg-Vladivostok with firing at passing ranges.
  31. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 15 September 2015 16: 05 New
    0
    We will wait for deliveries to the troops.