"Gadfly" will receive the Russian engine

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NPO Saturn began developing the 36MT engine for advanced X-59 guided missiles, reports MIC With reference to the speech of the Deputy Chairman of the Duma Committee on Industry Vladimir Gutenev at RAE-2015.

"Gadfly" will receive the Russian engine


The deputy noted that the new products will replace the engines previously received from Ukraine.

According to the newspaper, "the X-59 rocket, known by the NATO classification as the Gadfly, is intended to destroy small and mobile land and sea targets in the medium range."
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  1. +35
    10 September 2015 16: 16
    Ukraine went through our market, and mediocre. And more products of their military industrial complex and no one needs.
    1. -19
      10 September 2015 16: 17
      not true, on the contrary, it has occupied and our competition cannot be made by them, because the harder the cheaper, the better, and it’s worth recognizing that kakushki are very good.
      but the rest of the markets, those yes, those raped.
      1. +17
        10 September 2015 16: 19
        She did not take it, and so communications were built in the USSR. But only in the Ukrainian SSR was production, rather than development, predominantly.
      2. +14
        10 September 2015 16: 51
        Quote: just EXPL
        not true, on the contrary, it has occupied and our competition cannot be made by them, because the harder the cheaper, the better, and it’s worth recognizing that kakushki are very good.
        but the rest of the markets, those yes, those raped.

        Do not tell my slippers that to produce such products you need the interest of the state, but you need to remind who steers now krajina?
        P_endos don't need competitors, now they are quickly clearing, but to be honest, they have already cleared this field
    2. +14
      10 September 2015 16: 19
      TTH:
      Engine:
      X-59: two-stage solid propellant rocket engine
      X-59M: launch solid propellant rocket engine, march turbofan engine
      Weight: 930 kg
      Length: 5,7 m
      Diameter: 0,38 m
      Wingspan: 1,3 m
      Flight speed: 0,72-0,88 M
      Distance flight:
      X-59M: 115 km
      X-59ME: 200 km
      X-59MK: 285 km
      Warhead: high-explosive penetrating or cluster, nuclear (option for Tu-160 developed by FSUE RFNC-VNIIEF [3])
      Warhead weight: 320 kg
      Control system: inertial + telecommand in the final section
      Carriers:
      X-59: Su-24M, MiG-27, Su-17M3 / 22M4, Su-25 and Su-30
      X-59ME: Su-30MK

      Unit cost: 16 million
      1. +5
        10 September 2015 17: 08
        Quote: Sith Lord
        TTH:


        Impressive !!! .... belay ESPECIALLY PRICE !!!! request

        Flight design tests [sn. 3] X-59 "Gadfly" missiles were carried out in 1975-1977 in the GLIC (Akhtubinsk).
        Unit cost
        16 million rubles for 2010 [2]
        The year of creation is older than mine, but it costs as much as I will not earn in 60 years (and this is in "old" prices) I am aware that the army is not cheap and that whoever does not want to feed his own will feed someone else's ... but nonetheless belay
    3. +1
      10 September 2015 16: 31
      He said - self-castration! laughing
  2. +6
    10 September 2015 16: 16
    this rocket flies almost 300km (1 modification), not a damn medium range.
    1. Tor5
      +3
      10 September 2015 16: 51
      So it is very nice! The real transition to self-sufficiency.
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  3. +4
    10 September 2015 16: 18
    Of all the UEC design bureaus, only one "Saturn" works ??? Let's finish the game, again all the "eggs" in one basket ...
    1. +4
      10 September 2015 16: 25
      Nimble as a panos. Will you go to the rocket factory to do it? They destroyed everything under Yeltsin, and now give them rockets and thousands of tanks
      1. +3
        10 September 2015 16: 38
        I’m making rockets at the factory, but I don’t know who you are or what you do! Do you sell govnosnikers in a tent? I sympathize ... And your knowledge of the topic leaves much to be desired. ..
      2. +2
        11 September 2015 01: 17
        I would go. If they had called.
    2. +9
      10 September 2015 16: 34
      Quote: engineer74
      Of all the UEC design bureaus, only one "Saturn" works ??? Let's finish the game, again all the "eggs" in one basket ...

      It’s just that Saturn has left the technical base, unlike the others who plundered in the 90s. Now he bears the cross for all killed KB. Soon, other design bureaus and plants will catch up. A little need to wait is already being modernized. hi
      1. +6
        10 September 2015 16: 42
        There are not so few design bureaus left, only the living at a glance: "Soyuz", "Salyut" (KBPR), "Granit" - this is who he worked with. Here it gives more lobism ...
  4. +1
    10 September 2015 16: 33
    NPO Saturn started developing 36MT engine


    Dear colleagues, we have just started, so some time for a real replacement will still pass.
    1. 0
      10 September 2015 16: 36
      from hohland a couple of brains dragged, things will go quickly ...
      1. +4
        10 September 2015 16: 45
        Quote: War and Peace
        from hohland a couple of brains dragged, things will go quickly ...

        The brains were in Russia, but the hands and production were in Ukraine, but there everyone jumped and asked. Now we will do the engines ourselves.
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    3. +4
      10 September 2015 17: 21
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      just started

      Something strange, the engine was shown at MAKS 2013. NPO Saturn, part of the United Engine Corporation (UEC), shows at MAKS-2013 a two-circuit twin-shaft turbojet engine (DDTD) "Product 36MT.36MT
      Development - NPO Saturn.
      Serial production - NPO Saturn.

      It is used as a marching engine as part of the family of aviation tactical missiles of the X-59M type developed by the Rados GosMKB OJSC.
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      2. gjv
        +5
        10 September 2015 17: 53
        Quote: WUA 518
        Something strange, the engine was shown at MAKS 2013. NPO Saturn, part of the United Engine Corporation (UEC), shows at MAKS-2013 a two-circuit twin-shaft turbojet engine (DDTD) "Product 36MT.36MT

        Work on the creation of the turbofan engine-50 began in 1976 and was very successful. The design was based on the best practices of OMKB designers. The engine was delivered on time for flight tests. In 1980, state tests of the layout of the engine with a pylon (“Product 36”, for the MKB “Rainbow”) were successfully conducted, and after a while another - “built-in” layout (“Product 36-01”, for the Design Bureau “Novator”). These tests became a triumph for OMKB, given that at the same time intense work was underway to fine-tune and prepare for state tests of the TVD-10B and AFU-10 engines.
        After conducting state tests of the TRDD-50 engine, the technical documentation was transferred to the Rybinsk Motors engine-building plant (which later became part of the NPO Saturn) for mastering serial production.
        However, the same task (development of a single-use turbofan turbojet engine) was received by the Soyuz MNPO (the head was Oleg Nikolaevich Favorsky). In parallel with the work on the creation of the engine TRDD-50, the development of a similar engine (P95-300, “product 95”) for the same facilities begins. After the completion of state tests, all documentation on the “product 95” was transferred to the “Zaporizhzhya Engine Building Plant” for the development of its serial production.
        The MAP faced a dilemma - which of these two engines should be given the green road. The issue was put up for discussion at the MAP Scientific and Technical Council. The discussion was very stormy and despite the clear advantages of the turbofan engine-50 in terms of survivability, the excellent characteristics given by TsIAM specialists and customers, the council made a decision to launch the “product 95” in large-scale production, thus closing the engine for many years Turbofan-50. However, time has shown that the “product 95” after ten years was withdrawn from production and operation. This happened due to the fact that with the collapse of the USSR, the only manufacturer of the P95-300 engine remained in Ukraine. In this regard, it was decided to resume the production of “Product 36” to replace the exhausted P95-300 and equip new CDs.
        NPO Saturn together with OMKB since 2000 conducted work on the restoration of production (to replace the P95-300 engines) and the repair of "product 36". In particular, modifications to the TRDD-50 base model - TRDD-50A and TRDD-50AT engines - were launched into large-scale production. On the very same OMKB developed and launched the release of another modification - the engine TRDD-50B ("Product 37").
        At present, both enterprises are actively producing various modifications of the engine TRDD-50. In addition, there is an active process of modernization of old and development of new promising cruise missiles, which uses the turbojet engine-50.
        Despite its considerable age, the engine TRDD-50 still remains at the level of the best world analogues, and for a long time will remain at such a high technical level.
        Here is a story about TRDD-50AT - product 36MT.
        And the first time its restored version was shown on MAX 2005.
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        2. gjv
          0
          10 September 2015 18: 04
          More from the report on the activities of NPO Saturn for 2014
          Small-size gas turbine engine programs for UAVs
          1 Serial deliveries of small-sized gas turbine engines are carried out in accordance with long-term contracts under the state defense order.
          2 The works on putting into serial production of a new small-size gas turbine engine for a tactical cruise missile of Tactical Missile Corporation Corporation were completed. Qualification bench tests of the engine were successfully completed in December 2014.
          3 NPO Saturn OJSC, in accordance with a contract with a foreign customer, has begun to adapt the 36MT engine for use as part of a customer’s UAV.
        3. +1
          10 September 2015 19: 38
          There is nothing surprising in this, new physics has not yet been discovered, and in the old successful models will be used for more than a dozen years, upgrading from time to time. And how many really new developments have appeared in the world? It seems that the last ones were laser, nuclear energy and finance not tied to anything!
  5. +5
    10 September 2015 16: 35
    Nothing, pebble, brick by brick ..... We can handle it.
  6. +3
    10 September 2015 17: 56
    There would be political will to resolve these issues ... even what remains in the military-industrial complex is enough to reproduce everything.
  7. -1
    10 September 2015 20: 16
    Tell me, FUCK on a rocket mass LESS! tons to put a turbojet engine from a rocket weighing 1,7 tons.? It’s like putting the engine from ZiLk on a burn, and then be surprised at how much fuel it’s eating ...
    And now to begin production of the same turbojet engine, when they do the same for Caliber and X-55/101?
  8. 0
    10 September 2015 20: 20
    Moscow, too, was not built right away. With such friends you can only rely on yourself.
  9. +3
    10 September 2015 22: 48
    Quote: Vladimir 1964
    NPO Saturn started developing 36MT engine


    Dear colleagues, we have just started, so some time for a real replacement will still pass.



    36MT, aka turbojet engine - 50 has been produced at Omsk "Baranovo" for several decades. Now they are stamping more than in 2011, when they released 118 units ... which is a lot of information on the network.
    The "news" is about nothing, or its essence is distorted by the journalists beyond recognition.