"Iskander" will keep the Belarusian chassis

An anonymous source in the Russian Defense Ministry told a journalist "Military Industrial Courier"that although the KAMAZ company is developing a promising chassis of the Platform family, the Iskander operational tactical complexes will retain the chassis produced by the Minsk wheel tractor plant (MWTP, Republic of Belarus).




“We have several contracts with MZKT for the supply of their equipment to 2018-2019,” he noted.

The representative of the military department stressed that the transfer of “Iskander” from Belarusian cars to the “Platform” of KAMAZ will be quite difficult.

“It’s important not only to make the chassis itself. The most important thing is to transplant the complex onto it, to develop auxiliary units, hydraulics, to make a hanging system. And it’s not so simple, we need to open up new development work and conduct tests, ”he noted.

In addition, according to a source, the possibility of expanding the range of specialized chassis purchased from the MSC is currently being considered.

It is possible that he was referring to the MZKT-79292 chassis with the 10x10 wheel formula, which, according to some data, will be used to house the Rubezh strategic missile system PC-26, the newspaper notes.
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  1. Gecko 10 September 2015 08: 16 New
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    Test platform
    1. War and Peace 10 September 2015 08: 23 New
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      they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...
      1. Mitek 10 September 2015 08: 35 New
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        Quote: war and peace
        they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

        There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskoe is interesting.
        1. War and Peace 10 September 2015 08: 39 New
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          Quote: Mitek
          Quote: war and peace
          they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

          There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskiy seems to be interesting.


          stop, what kind of "bash"? Belarus fulfills all its obligations, do not invent ...
          1. marlin1203 10 September 2015 09: 39 New
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            A kind of humanitarian assistance to the military-industrial complex "allies"
          2. Mitek 10 September 2015 11: 26 New
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            Quote: war and peace
            Quote: Mitek
            Quote: war and peace
            they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

            There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskiy seems to be interesting.


            stop, what kind of "bash"? Belarus fulfills all its obligations, do not invent ...

            Shrimps from the Belarusian Sea. Permanent blackmail by exiting the vehicle. Should I continue or is it enough for you?
          3. yanus 10 September 2015 11: 28 New
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            Quote: war and peace
            stop, what kind of "bash"? Belarus fulfills all its obligations, do not invent ...

            Well, for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.
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            2. gjv
              gjv 10 September 2015 11: 49 New
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              Quote: yanus
              for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.

              And now the Chinese are sweeping their friends with might and main ...

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          4. igor1981 10 September 2015 11: 56 New
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            Quote: war and peace
            stop, what kind of "bash"? Belarus fulfills all its obligations, do not invent ...


            Yes, I agree, but Lukashenko is not eternal, and who comes to his place is not clear. I hope the Belarusians have enough wisdom not to follow the path of all Maidan there. And just in case, you need to have your own developments in this area.
            God saves man, who save himself.
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        2. gregor6549 10 September 2015 10: 02 New
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          Poddyanki can be expected from anyone who is now in power in the former republics of the Union. With no exceptions. But the chassis and other products Russia needs are made not by Lukashenko, but by the people of Belarus. He, as history has shown, is not capable of a trick. He did, they did, and more than once, Therefore ... it’s better not to turn a godfather on yourself. Well, it doesn’t bother to first learn what Belarusians have been doing for decades. And they do well. Neither Topol nor Iskander have complained yet
          1. Sukhoi 10 September 2015 11: 09 New
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            I agree, a blow can unexpectedly come from any direction. As a compromise solution, you can make a joint venture with partial production of tractors in Russia. In which case, it will be possible with less loss to switch completely to self-sufficiency.
        3. vlad_pr 10 September 2015 12: 22 New
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          There is such a disease called idiocy. You would be checked. The derogatory name-calling of the head of state, which is our most faithful ally, is not a sign of high mental activity.
  2. Imperialkolorad 10 September 2015 08: 17 New
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    The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.
    1. Voha_krim 10 September 2015 08: 21 New
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      Quote: ImperialKolorad
      The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.

      And you must have your own designs! Just in case!!! And in which case, do not engage in import substitution for a long time !!!!!
      1. Amurets 10 September 2015 08: 57 New
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        Everything was. There was a factory in Kurgan. The KZKT was specially built as an understudy for the Minsk factory. Kudrin didn’t interfere. It was necessary to download the friends of the Belarusians. And now we are fighting. KAMAZ will take a lot of time to master this chassis.
    2. Petergut 10 September 2015 08: 34 New
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      Quote: ImperialKolorad
      The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.


      Or in Tula.
    3. Kent0001 10 September 2015 08: 35 New
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      It is necessary to buy for future use - on account of debts on 10-20 chassis for various purposes.
      1. Amurets 10 September 2015 09: 06 New
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        What are you laughing at? These chassis are always in demand. Not only for Iskanders. Belgorod, apparently, can’t cope with orders. There is also a need to replace the Krazov chassis.
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        2. gjv
          gjv 10 September 2015 11: 46 New
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          Quote: Amurets
          It is also necessary to replace Krazovskie chassis with something.

          Of course the Urals. That's just the bridges and the box would have mastered their factories. And then Hungarian and German.
  3. 44 World 10 September 2015 08: 17 New
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    Fraternal answer to any warrior !!!
  4. cerbuk6155 10 September 2015 08: 19 New
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    Nevertheless, work must be continued and funds allocated for this. Developments and technologies do not fall from the sky, so we need to work in this direction. soldier
    1. Nord2015 10 September 2015 08: 24 New
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      OKRs are always expensive. But work is still necessary. You never know what kind of Maidan will come out.
  5. Dragon-y 10 September 2015 08: 19 New
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    Will there be no import substitution? ..
  6. Concept1 10 September 2015 08: 23 New
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    The people are a little off topic. But worth seeing ...!
    Aivengo from the heart ...!
  7. roskot 10 September 2015 08: 24 New
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    it’s necessary to open up new experimental design work, to conduct tests ”

    Something he muddied, surrenders to me. They wrote that they abandoned the Belarusian.
  8. Amurets 10 September 2015 08: 26 New
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    That's right! The KZKT is closed and now we are looking for the chassis. When already from fools-officials for decisions that harm the state in 10 times the amount will be deducted. And you can’t pay, in a debt prison to the right bank. Before reckoning.
  9. Zaurbek 10 September 2015 08: 33 New
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    The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?
    1. Afinogen 10 September 2015 08: 59 New
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      Quote: Zaurbek
      The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?



      It would not be very bad if the Iskander chassis were amphibious, but it is necessary to develop a special chassis, and this money and money are not small, but now they are not very.
  10. GUKTU 10 September 2015 08: 52 New
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    Belarus certainly fulfills all its obligations. But no one will guarantee that tomorrow there will not be a Maidan. The weapons that are in the arsenal of the Russian Federation should be minimally dependent on imports, and ideally completely produced on our territory
  11. semuil 10 September 2015 08: 53 New
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    For such weapons, there should be our own chassis, as if we did not want to support their production. And then again, there is technology, there is no demand and progress. And do not forget that we ourselves are best friends.
  12. Old26 10 September 2015 09: 04 New
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    Quote: cerbuk6155
    Nevertheless, work must be continued and funds allocated for this. Development and technology do not fall from the sky, so we need to work in this direction

    Work of course must be continued. It’s just that KAMAZ decided to row everything for itself. There is a BAZ chassis, I don’t know if the Kurgan plant is working. And tie everything to KAMAZ is also not the best option. In addition, now the transition to a new chassis for many missile systems is a billion-dollar additional cost, since the same KAMAZ never made a chassis with the formula 16x16, and 10x10 too. They will have to create all the auxiliary mechanisms anew.

    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    Gentlemen, but in Bryansk, what - they can’t release anything like that?

    The original launcher of the Iskander. more precisely, one of the options was precisely on the BAZ chassis. But he carried, EMNIP one rocket. With Kurgan, there is something connected with the property (I do not remember, to be honest) because of which there is no way to order from him through the MO.

    Quote: Zaurbek
    The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?

    Will not work. The Oka launcher with the rocket was 29 tons, the Iskander about 40-43 tons. It is difficult to make such an installation both floating and airborne
    1. semuil 10 September 2015 09: 48 New
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      Quote: Old26
      It’s just that KAMAZ decided to row everything for itself.

      Just Kamaz implements the import substitution program.
      Quote: Old26
      - these are billions of dollars in additional costs, since KAMAZ never did the same ...

      The country's defense is generally a costly affair, especially when it comes to nuclear weapons carriers.
  13. AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 09: 21 New
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    work needs to be done anyway. Why then headlong to find a way out of a difficult situation. In Geopolitics, there is no concept at all as a friend. With all due respect to Belarus.
  14. Zomanus 10 September 2015 09: 35 New
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    And what about the missiles so dragged in the photo? Nozzles are so overgrown with cobwebs and moss, judging by the photo.
    And you need to develop your own. Up to serial equipment and prototypes.
    So that in case of something I gave the command and the work went.
    I won’t say anything about the Belarusians, but some "little brothers" behave very rotten ...
  15. Zaurbek 10 September 2015 10: 07 New
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    The thing is that the Old Man does not give MAZ shares, but wants to sell Mazy to the RF Ministry of Defense. And they don’t do business like that. And if the chassis of the BAZ does not pass through the tonnage, then it is possible to do one missile. There is 1 rocket launcher for export.
  16. Old26 10 September 2015 10: 07 New
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    Quote: semuil
    The country's defense is generally a costly affair, especially when it comes to nuclear weapons carriers.

    Nobody argues with this. But for that matter, it is necessary to conduct a competition in which both BAZ, KAMAZ and possibly Kurgan would participate. So far, at least Belarus is fulfilling its obligations. Let at least they create and drive the Platform for a start, and then decide whether the complex will be on a new chassis or on an old one. Expensive will be the transition to a new chassis for existing systems. It’s easier to really buy in reserve from MAZA ...
    1. semuil 10 September 2015 11: 10 New
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      Quote: Old26
      It’s easier to really buy in reserve from MAZA ...

      Maybe it’s easier. And it’s better to do your own until these chassis have become a political lever. As for the BAZs, Kugranov, etc. let them at least do something first. Your competition with an already finished product is a waste of time and money. And Belarusians carry their rockets if they have the brains to do it. And do not lie about the costs that are too much to adjust to the launchers. Kamaz chassis is initially done under these products.
  17. lopvlad 10 September 2015 10: 15 New
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    Hrenovo.We are at risk of getting big problems when the “potato dad” starts to search for the “European future” of Belarus and he is already on the verge of making this decision.
    If Russia itself can’t quickly create such a chassis, then let it buy technology and documentation from Belarus.
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  19. Old26 10 September 2015 17: 04 New
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    Quote: semuil
    Maybe it’s easier. And it’s better to do yours before these chassis have become a political lever

    So who interferes with conducting research. Spend. Prove that KAMAZ chassis surpasses all others ...

    Quote: semuil
    As for the BAZ, Kugranov, etc. first let them do something first.

    Unlike KAMAZ, these plants made their chassis. The first version of the Iskander was precisely on the BAZ chassis, while KAMAZ did not even think about it. The same Kurgan plant made the chassis with the 10x8 formula, like the BAZ. And what did KAMAZ do then?

    Quote: semuil
    Your ready-made product is a waste of time and money

    There is no finished product yet. In the exposition of the Army 2015 forum, a poster was displayed showing all three promising vehicles in the Platform-O development center. Poster, not finished cars. Here is the Bryansk "Voshchina" - this is a real product, the KAMAZ "Platform-O" is still virtual. Therefore no drank in case of announcement REAL there will be no competition.

    Quote: semuil
    .And about the costs unmeasured for fitting to launchers do not lie. The Kamaz chassis is initially made for these products.

    Do not blame others for what you do not know yourself.
    = Is there an arrow and a lifting system for the product on the KAMAZ chassis? NO.
    = Bunker, how is the MZKT on the KAMAZ chassis? No.
    - Is there a hanging system on the KAMAZ chassis for existing products? NO.

    This is so, the most striking. There is no ASBU system adapted to this chassis, a communication system, etc. And all this is R&D and money, by no means small. So what is there? But nothing. To draw beautiful pictures a lot of mind is not necessary. Is there a specific product that KAMAZ is ready to exhibit for competitive testing ???? NO, There is no such. Even at a forum such as ARMY-2015, KAMAZ presented again only POSTERS
  20. Old26 10 September 2015 17: 37 New
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    Quote: yanus
    Well, for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.

    Ну и что?

    Quote: Zaurbek
    1 rocket launcher is exported

    Are you sure?