"Iskander" will keep the Belarusian chassis

An anonymous source in the Russian Defense Ministry told a journalist "Military Industrial Courier"that although the KAMAZ company is developing a promising chassis of the Platform family, the Iskander operational tactical complexes will retain the chassis produced by the Minsk wheel tractor plant (MWTP, Republic of Belarus).

“We have several contracts with MZKT for the supply of their equipment to 2018-2019,” he noted.

The representative of the military department stressed that the transfer of “Iskander” from Belarusian cars to the “Platform” of KAMAZ will be quite difficult.

“It’s important not only to make the chassis itself. The most important thing is to transplant the complex onto it, to develop auxiliary units, hydraulics, to make a hanging system. And it’s not so simple, we need to open up new development work and conduct tests, ”he noted.

In addition, according to a source, the possibility of expanding the range of specialized chassis purchased from the MSC is currently being considered.

It is possible that he was referring to the MZKT-79292 chassis with the 10x10 wheel formula, which, according to some data, will be used to house the Rubezh strategic missile system PC-26, the newspaper notes.

Comments

[Gecko]

Test platform

[War and Peace]

they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

[Mitek]

Quote: war and peace

they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskoe is interesting.

[War and Peace]

Quote: Mitek

Quote: war and peace

they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskiy seems to be interesting.

stop what "podlyany"? Belarus fulfills all OBLIGATIONS, do not invent ...

[marlin1203]

A kind of humanitarian aid to the military-industrial complex "allies"

[Mitek]

Quote: war and peace

Quote: Mitek

Quote: war and peace

they wanted to give all the elephants to KamAZ - it didn’t work out ...

There is one. On the tests. And from Lukash you can expect any vile. For him, apart from power, nothing is important. So that they correctly create their chassis. BAZ-ovskiy seems to be interesting.

stop what "podlyany"? Belarus fulfills all OBLIGATIONS, do not invent ...

Shrimps from the Belarusian Sea. Permanent blackmail by exiting the vehicle. Should I continue or is it enough for you?

[yanus]

Quote: War and Peace

stop what "podlyany"? Belarus fulfills all OBLIGATIONS, do not invent ...

Well, for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.

[gjv]

Quote: yanus

for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.

And now the Chinese are riveting their "own" with might and main.

[igor1981]

Quote: War and Peace

stop what "podlyany"? Belarus fulfills all OBLIGATIONS, do not invent ...

Yes, I agree, but Lukashenko is not eternal, and who comes to his place is not clear. I hope the Belarusians have enough wisdom not to follow the path of all Maidan there. And just in case, you need to have your own developments in this area.
God saves man, who save himself.

[gregor6549]

Poddyanki can be expected from anyone who is now in power in the former republics of the Union. With no exceptions. But the chassis and other products Russia needs are made not by Lukashenko, but by the people of Belarus. He, as history has shown, is not capable of a trick. He did, they did, and more than once, Therefore ... it’s better not to turn a godfather on yourself. Well, it doesn’t bother to first learn what Belarusians have been doing for decades. And they do well. Neither Topol nor Iskander have complained yet

[Sukhoi]

I agree, a blow can unexpectedly come from any direction. As a compromise solution, you can make a joint venture with partial production of tractors in Russia. In which case, it will be possible with less loss to switch completely to self-sufficiency.

[vlad_pr]

There is such a disease called "idiocy". You should be checked. The derogatory name-calling of the head of state, who is our most loyal ally, is not a sign of high mental activity.

[Imperialkolorad]

The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.

[Voha_krim]

Quote: ImperialKolorad

The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.

And you must have your own designs! Just in case!!! And in which case, do not engage in import substitution for a long time !!!!!

[Amurets]

Everything was. There was a factory in Kurgan. The KZKT was specially built as an understudy for the Minsk factory. Kudrin didn’t interfere. It was necessary to download the friends of the Belarusians. And now we are fighting. KAMAZ will take a lot of time to master this chassis.

[Petergut]

Quote: ImperialKolorad

The main thing is that the Maidan now does not pass in Belarus.

Or in Tula.

[Kent0001]

It is necessary to buy for future use - on account of debts on 10-20 chassis for various purposes.

[Amurets]

What are you laughing at? These chassis are always in demand. Not only for Iskanders. Belgorod, apparently, can’t cope with orders. There is also a need to replace the Krazov chassis.

[gjv]

Quote: Amurets

It is also necessary to replace Krazovskie chassis with something.

Of course the Urals. That's just the bridges and the box would have mastered their factories. And then Hungarian and German.

[44 World]

Fraternal answer to any warrior !!!

[cerbuk6155]

Nevertheless, work must be continued and funds allocated for this. Developments and technologies do not fall from the sky, so we need to work in this direction.

[Nord2015]

OKRs are always expensive. But work is still necessary. You never know what kind of Maidan will come out.

[Dragon-y]

Will there be no import substitution? ..

[Concept1]

The people are a little off topic. But worth seeing ...!
Aivengo from the heart ...!

[roskot]

it’s necessary to open up new experimental design work, to conduct tests ”

Something he muddied, surrenders to me. They wrote that they abandoned the Belarusian.

[Amurets]

That's right! The KZKT is closed and now we are looking for the chassis. When already from fools-officials for decisions that harm the state in 10 times the amount will be deducted. And you can’t pay, in a debt prison to the right bank. Before reckoning.

[Zaurbek]

The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?

[Afinogen]

Quote: Zaurbek

The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?

It would not be very bad if the Iskander's chassis were amphibious, but this needs to be developed with a special chassis, and this money and money are not small, but now they are not very much.

[GUKTU]

Belarus certainly fulfills all its obligations. But no one will guarantee that tomorrow there will not be a Maidan. The weapons that are in the arsenal of the Russian Federation should be minimally dependent on imports, and ideally completely produced on our territory

[semuel]

For such weapons, there should be our own chassis, as if we did not want to support their production. And then again, there is technology, there is no demand and progress. And do not forget that we ourselves are best friends.

[Old26]

Quote: cerbuk6155

Nevertheless, work must be continued and funds allocated for this. Development and technology do not fall from the sky, so we need to work in this direction

Work of course must be continued. It’s just that KAMAZ decided to row everything for itself. There is a BAZ chassis, I don’t know if the Kurgan plant is working. And tie everything to KAMAZ is also not the best option. In addition, now the transition to a new chassis for many missile systems is a billion-dollar additional cost, since the same KAMAZ never made a chassis with the formula 16x16, and 10x10 too. They will have to create all the auxiliary mechanisms anew.

Quote: sanya.vorodis

Gentlemen, but in Bryansk, what - they can’t release anything like that?

The original Iskander launcher. more precisely, one of the options was on the BAZ chassis. But he carried one rocket, EMNIP. With Kurgan, there is something connected with the property (I don't remember, to be honest) because of which there is no opportunity to order from him through the Ministry of Defense.

Quote: Zaurbek

The chassis on such complexes should be amphibious and airborne. Something similar to the chassis of the OKA complex. How do you think?

Will not work. Oka had a launcher with a rocket of 29 tons, Iskander had about 40-43 tons. It is difficult to make such an installation both floating and airborne.

[semuel]

Quote: Old26

It’s just that KAMAZ decided to row everything for itself.

Just Kamaz implements the import substitution program.

Quote: Old26

- these are billions of dollars in additional costs, since KAMAZ never did the same ...

The country's defense is generally a costly affair, especially when it comes to nuclear weapons carriers.

[AdekvatNICK]

work needs to be done anyway. Why then headlong to find a way out of a difficult situation. In Geopolitics, there is no concept at all as a friend. With all due respect to Belarus.

[Zomanus]

And what about the missiles so dragged in the photo? Nozzles are so overgrown with cobwebs and moss, judging by the photo.
And you need to develop your own. Up to serial equipment and prototypes.
So that in case of something I gave the command and the work went.
I won't say anything about the Belarusians, but some "brothers" behave very badly ...

[Zaurbek]

The thing is that the Old Man does not give MAZ shares, but wants to sell Mazy to the RF Ministry of Defense. And they don’t do business like that. And if the chassis of the BAZ does not pass through the tonnage, then it is possible to do one missile. There is 1 rocket launcher for export.

[Old26]

Quote: semuil

The country's defense is generally a costly affair, especially when it comes to nuclear weapons carriers.

Nobody argues with this. But if it comes to that, it is necessary to hold a competition in which BAZ, KAMAZ and possibly Kurgan would participate. So far, at least Belarus is fulfilling its obligations. Let at least the "Platform" be created and driven, and then decide whether the complex will be on a new chassis or on an old one. It will be costly to switch to a new chassis for existing systems. It is really easier to buy from MAZ in reserve ...

[semuel]

Quote: Old26

It’s easier to really buy in reserve from MAZA ...

Maybe it’s easier. And it’s better to do your own until these chassis have become a political lever. As for the BAZs, Kugranov, etc. let them at least do something first. Your competition with an already finished product is a waste of time and money. And Belarusians carry their rockets if they have the brains to do it. And do not lie about the costs that are too much to adjust to the launchers. Kamaz chassis is initially done under these products.

[lopvlad]

Hrenovo. We risk getting big problems when the "potato dad" rushes to look for the "European future" of Belarus and he is already on the verge of making this decision.
If Russia itself can’t quickly create such a chassis, then let it buy technology and documentation from Belarus.

[Old26]

Quote: semuil

Maybe it’s easier. And it’s better to do yours before these chassis have become a political lever

So who interferes with conducting research. Spend. Prove that KAMAZ chassis surpasses all others ...

Quote: semuil

As for the BAZ, Kugranov, etc. first let them do something first.

Unlike KAMAZ, these factories made their own chassis. The first version of "Iskander" was on the BAZ chassis, at a time when KAMAZ did not even think about it. The same Kurgan plant made a chassis with a 10x8 formula, like BAZ. And what was KAMAZ doing then?

Quote: semuil

Your ready-made product is a waste of time and money

There is no finished product yet. In the exposition of the Army-2015 forum, a poster was displayed with the image of all three promising vehicles for the Platform-O development project. A poster, not a finished car. The Bryansk "Voshchina" is a real-life product, the KAMAZ "Platform-O" is still virtual. Therefore, no drank in the event of an announcement REAL there will be no competition.

Quote: semuil

.And about the costs unmeasured for fitting to launchers do not lie. The Kamaz chassis is initially made for these products.

Do not blame others for what you do not know yourself.
= Is there an arrow and a lifting system for the product on the KAMAZ chassis? NO.
= Bunker, how is the MZKT on the KAMAZ chassis? No.
- Is there a hanging system on the KAMAZ chassis for existing products? NO.

This is so, the most striking. There is no ASBU system adapted to this chassis, a communication system, etc. And all this is R&D and money, by no means small. So what is there? But nothing. To draw beautiful pictures a lot of mind is not necessary. Is there a specific product that KAMAZ is ready to exhibit for competitive testing ???? NO, There is no such. Even at a forum such as ARMY-2015, KAMAZ presented again only POSTERS

[Old26]

Quote: yanus

Well, for example, Belarusians sold the chassis for mobile strategic missiles to the Chinese.

Ну и что?

Quote: Zaurbek

1 rocket launcher is exported

Are you sure?