Boeing plans to buy launch vehicles from the Ukrainian "Yuzhmash"

The American company Boeing and the Ukrainian plant "Yuzhmash" and the design bureau "Yuzhnoye" concluded an agreement providing for the delivery of launch vehicles and engines, RIA reports "News" with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".

“The parties reached such an agreement in Washington. According to the head of the national space agency Lyubomir Sabodash, one of the conditions of the American side is the lack of cooperation between Ukraine and countries that are under American sanctions, ”the Ukrainian TV channel reported.

Yuzhnoye Design Office will make deliveries of launch vehicles for launching Antares and Zenit missiles. It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation on the end of October - beginning of November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.

“Boeing is interested in continuing cooperation with Ukraine in the direction of the Sea Launch, also interested in the project, which Kiev proposed to create a new satellite that would help Ukraine to realize telecommunication tasks,” said the head of the National Space Agency of Ukraine Lyubomir Sabodash.

It is worth noting that at the moment the United States is purchasing engines from the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Nevsky_ZU]

The keyword is planning. And slaps his partner on the shoulder)))

[Darkmor]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

The keyword is planning.

no, keyword:

with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".

I did not find confirmation of the American side in the news.
I did not find the details of the contract.
I have not found even approximate volumes of investments and production.
I did not find timeline data.
They did not even sign a memorandum of intent.
Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

All the news that the UKRO-official says that they "will be hurt and the foreign countries will help us."
You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.

[svp67]

Quote: Darkmor

All the news that the UKRO-official says that they "will be hurt and the foreign countries will help us."

And it should be read like this: "Ukraine is looking for someone to sell the remnants of previously imported rocket engines from the warehouses of" Pivdenny "" That's all.

[SteelRatTV]

The key here is "... lack of cooperation between Ukraine and countries under US sanctions." What kind of countries are these?

[svp67]

Quote: SteelRatTV

What kind of countries are these?

Russia, DPRK, Syria, while Iran ...

[scientist]

Quote: Darkmor

but over the past year I have ceased to take word of word with officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.

The regime that came to power as a result of a coup d'etat and destroys its own people cannot be trusted even if they sign documents. Most are ordinary terrorists. As recently announced by the TFR, many, starting with Yatsenyuk, are comrade-in-arms of Maskhadov and Dudaev, therefore it is not necessary to conduct negotiations with them, but to wet them with the toilet.

[mirag2]

News from virtual reality, or a parallel world, if you like. It has already been refuted by the Boeing itself.

[abrakadabre]

You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials.

And before that holy chtol believed?

[DanSabaka]

You are right .... In the morning news, a Boeing representative completely denied these Ukrainian media reports .....

[fox21h]

Quote: Darkmor

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

The keyword is planning.

no, keyword:

with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".

I did not find confirmation of the American side in the news.
I did not find the details of the contract.
I have not found even approximate volumes of investments and production.
I did not find timeline data.
They did not even sign a memorandum of intent.
Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

All the news that the UKRO-official says that they "will be hurt and the foreign countries will help us."
You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.

There has already been a rebuttal by Boeing

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Keyword "planning"

In fact - another verbiage, designed for the ears of ordinary Svidomo.

[Constructor1]

Boeing plans to purchase rocket carriers from Ukrainian Yuzhmash

Today in the morning we broadcast on the news ... - "But Boeing is not in the know"

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Designer 1

Today in the morning we broadcast on the news ... - "But Boeing is not in the know"

Here, here ... +

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

The keyword is planning. And slaps his partner on the shoulder)))

Do not plan. This Ukrainians fantasize. This morning on TV: Boeing representatives are not aware of any agreements.

[svp67]

I wonder whose engines are they going to supply? They were also supplied to Pivdenne from Russia.

[Barboskin]

A real engine, and rockets will fly straight ?!

[samoletil18]

Quote: Barboskin

A real engine, and rockets will fly straight ?!

Both the engine will be real, and they will fly, only NASA will buy it all in Russia first, and in order not to bother with the sanctioned topic, they will bring it to the south. Previously, a pair of resistors were soldered instead of Russian to Ukrainian (replacing electronics). But after the well-known explosion, they optimized it: they changed the stickers: and the cost is lower and nothing will explode, although it doesn’t explode into the account ... all of a sudden, on the southern mashine they will attach something on their own initiative.

[Afinogen]

[quote = Barboskin] And what about the real engine, and the rockets will fly straight?! [/ quote

The engines are real and they will be something like this!

[vovanpain]

Dreaming is not harmful with such partners it would be better to buy trampolines.

[meriem1]

Quote: vovanpain

Dreaming is not harmful with such partners it would be better to buy trampolines.

And what, it would be, it would not be bad))) A drum on the neck and forward. It is even interesting That's just why Boeing? Or again reported ...?

[Name]

Greetings to all! Regular tales from dill.

[Kamikaze19]

This is a fake, Boeing has officially denied these messages

[Kos_kalinki9]

Free-will! (I'm talking about Americans)
salvation, paradise! (I'm talking about astronauts)

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Taking into account the fact that a significant part of the specialists dumped from the outskirts to Russia, and the enterprises did not work for more than a year, it is doubtful that the Yusovites will get what they want. in 1951, the Dnepropetrovsk autotractor plant was re-profiled to produce missiles, now it is time to "re-profile" back ...

[evil partisan]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

in 1951, the Dnepropetrovsk autotractor plant was re-profiled to produce missiles, now it is time to "re-profile" back ...

Oh, I'm afraid that they will not pull the tractor ... Horse-harness factory - this is the maximum of what can come out of Yuzhmash in 5 years ... True, by then they will devour all the horses or starve to death, but nothing, help, hedgehogs tossed them. From you, by the way, 2 buckets of hedgehogs. You have a lot of them there ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

. From you, by the way, 2 buckets of hedgehogs. You have a lot of them there ...

Fuck you, I'll eat it myself!)))))

[VseDoFeNi]

Actually, the captured German rocket designers and rocket designers are over, now the star-streaked punks are looking for those around the world. Ukrainian specialists are also almost over. And the punks lack catastrophic money.

[samoletil18]

Why, the documentation hasn’t been taken out of the souther mash yet? Is there something left?
I get it. It was not digitized to sell by weight

[Armored optimist]

Antonov designers, they say, almost completely moved to Russia.

[Voha_krim]

“... one of the conditions on the American side is the lack of cooperation between Ukraine and countries that are under American sanctions,” the Ukrainian television channel said.
And what does Ukraine create without Russia ??? Blah blah blah already tired of them you can not feed ordinary people, but PR - you can. Words designed for Ukrainian fool.

[dckx]

It looks a lot like a "fake" from Ukraine. Well, that's why the Boeing doesn't know "what", because with a high degree of probability all the original documentation has already been transferred to the minke whales - well, if only the technological processes are revealed (and that is unlikely). The goal of democracy is to destroy production from "partners" and sell their own.

[Dezinto]

Happily fly ...

Let Ukrainian amulets wrap themselves with rockets ...

[Kos_kalinki9]

Embroideries?

[sagitch]

We are angry and of course we want the plant to stand up and not work for the Americans. But this is a market, and the plant is unique.

It was not necessary to build it in Ukraine initially!

[Voha_krim]

Quote: sagitch

It was not necessary to build it in Ukraine initially!

It was built under the USSR — someone knew that it was so bored.

[Kos_kalinki9]

And in the Baltic ports had to be built? There was one country.

[Amurets]

And in the Baltics, such an industry has been wiped off that it still hiccups. Precision engineering and machine tool building plants, electrical and radio engineering factories, and not just ports. We have destroyed them for evil to please the EU. Now we collect components, who will sell them, and the Baltic states they are asking for subsidies from the EU. They have achieved freedom. Freedom of fascism, lack of money and, as yesterday at the VO forum, it turned out that the status of a prostitute was a vocation.

[Sasha75]

Here vodka will be drunk with lard, and let me rave, I'm already afraid to drink, but I look with suspicion on lard, maybe he eats them from him or they don’t eat it, but smoke or sniff it))).
But seriously, let them try, buy, arrange a firework, if it’s ten, so that it’s also important for us to pocket, but we who don’t know the Chinese oh how they ask to buy a party and oh. how they want technology, but we said we won’t give it, but we will sell it. So we stand in line for them and let them just jerk, they will be in line first from the end.

[B- 3ACADE]

Good morning fellow countrymen. I have always been amused by disputes with the Americans
were on the moon --- were not ... They are stubborn bending their own. But then the question was
engines and now we buy in Russia what happened? forgot how to do?
Silent. Education lacks to argue.
R.S. Yes, someone will explain to me what FOREVA means I hear many times
on the video from Donbass and others. Thankful in advance.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: B- 3ACADE

R.S. Yes, someone will explain to me what FOREVA means

Forever.

[Bayonet]

We also had almost finished N-1, Energia and Buran, and now we are designing heavy carriers and ships - have you forgotten how to do it?

[evil partisan]

Quote: B- 3ACADE

will someone explain to me what FOREVA means

And in the 70s, people knew how to translate forever:
"There is a berry in the field forever." This is how one music critic in his article like "What is the Beatles Singing About?" translated into Russian the title of the Beatles song "Strawberry fields forever ".

[rotmistr60]

Even if such an agreement is indeed signed, it is just another attempt by the Americans to support Ukraine. There were too many assurances from their side about help and support for Ukraine. When they themselves see that their "Ukraine project" is bursting at the seams, then what kind of agreements you will not agree to in order to maintain your image.

[Voha_krim]

Quote: rotmistr60

what kind of agreements you’re not going to support your image.

America is not the USSR - they will not support anyone for "just like that"! For the loot - please!

[rotmistr60]

They (Americans) have an interest in Ukraine for the future and interest is not small. Therefore, while they support it, and the time will come they will strip it off like sticky.

[mvg]

but zenith (Dnieper), with a sea launch, like Khokhlyatsky? we just refused it because of this!

[samoletil18]

Yeah. We have 2 more. In stock since 2014. One with the weather satellite will be launched from Baikonur in November. And I don’t know the second, probably the Americans were sold under the guise of that from Yuzhmash, that’s the article needed in the press release. Everything is fair: a rocket - to the Americans, money - to Russia, glory - to Ukraine!

[engineer74]

"Memorandum of Cooperation" does not mean "get married"!

[isker]

Quote: B- 3ACADE

Good morning fellow countrymen. I have always been amused by disputes with the Americans
were on the moon --- were not ... They are stubborn bending their own. But then the question was
engines and now we buy in Russia what happened? forgot how to do?
Silent. Education lacks to argue.

There were no Americans on the moon. For paying support to the USSR for their lies, they paid in full with it, primarily with strategic grain and the USSR’s right to sell its oil to Europe.

[anfil]

It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation until late October - early November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.

A memorandum is far from a treaty.

[ARES623]

I think that it is possible that the Americans have some plans for using the capacities of Yuzhny, Yuzhmash and some other industries, precisely so that in a state of agony they do not resume any cooperation with Russia. In some cases, in the 90s, enterprises in Russia were bought by foreign "investors" specifically to liquidate it together with the industrial site and personnel.

[pvv113]

Ukrainian plant "Yuzhmash" and design office "Southern"

Did competent specialists stay there? I know people who left there, quitting work. But not every cook can build rockets.

[uav80]

Somehow quickly Permoga turned into Zrada ...

Boeing refutes the conclusion of a contract for the purchase of rocket engines with Ukraine ...

Boeing has not signed any contracts or agreements with Ukraine on cooperation in the field of space programs, Elena Aleksandrova, director of public relations at Boeing in Russia and the CIS, told Vesti. Ekonomika.

PS: yes, and what Boeing can decide without Russia in Sea Launch if 95% of the shares belong to Energia Overseas Limited, which in its turn is a subsidiary of Energia corporation

[Buffalo]

Thank God the Boeing management has confirmed its mental health!
They probably understand that Ukraine will gladly accept the order, only it will not be able to fulfill it.
As in that joke about the dog, about which they ask if he is able to eat two kilos of meat at a time. The owner replies: "Wines are zist, the one who will give it to me?"

[Old26]

Quote: sagitch

We are angry and of course we want the plant to stand up and not work for the Americans. But this is a market, and the plant is unique.

It was. A good missile design bureau, which for a quarter of a century has not created a single missile.

Well, what a fake note is clear to everyone. It’s enough to even look at the text

CB Yuzhnoye will supply rockets for launching Antares and Zenit missiles. It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation until the end of October - beginning of November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.

The design bureau will supply the launch vehicles. Not a plant that should make them, but a design bureau. Further. Deliveries of launch vehicles for launching Antares and Zenit missiles. All over the world, launch vehicles are designed to launch spaceships and satellites, while in Ukraine they are designed to launch rockets. Well, launching Zenit is cool. Not only is Russia abandoned these missiles, since Ukraine raised their prices, making them about the same as the prices for the Proton, which raises at the same time about twice as much, and the engines on the Zenit are Russian. And the Antares will no longer use NK- 33 modified by the Ukrainian side to the point where they begin to blast.In short - delirium and hypertrophied conceit of the country 404

[Buffalo]

The fact that the missiles were not intended to launch satellites was initially not an obstacle. It is possible to remake them. But! Six waves of mobilization, a long idle time of the enterprise, the general situation in the country, where there is not even a guarantee that there will be heat and light in winter, lack of personnel continuity, problems with cooperation, machine tools, specialists, experimental research base, logistics, etc. d. - here, this is a real problem. And she makes one doubt the reality of order fulfillment.

[Old26]

Quote: Bison

The fact that the missiles were not intended to launch satellites was initially not an obstacle. It is possible to remake them. But! Six waves of mobilization, a long idle time of the enterprise, the general situation in the country, where there is not even a guarantee that there will be heat and light in winter, lack of personnel continuity, problems with cooperation, machine tools, specialists, experimental research base, logistics, etc. d. - here, this is a real problem. And she makes one doubt the reality of order fulfillment.

These missiles were originally intended to launch satellites. But never rocket launchers not intended to launch rocketsas in a note from the Ukrainian media

[kartalovkolya]

Well, yes, this will be a big "breakthrough" for American astronautics! They have a rich experience in cooperation, especially in "alteration" of the Russian-Soviet engines NK-33, well, how did it end, will anyone remind me !? And how are these specialists from Boeing and, in principle, what and with whom will they replace Russian participation in Yuzhmash's work ?! All this is just another "throw-in" with the aim of supporting someone and scaring someone! It's scary as much as horror: spaceships under zhovto-blakitny and stars-striped flags ply the expanses of the Universe, and there you look at Mars together they will "swing"! with such "partners" and enemies are not necessary: ​​that they do not drink it will be resisted or broken! Although the plan is not bad for eliminating potential competitors!

[Jurkovs]

In reality, Yuzhmash can produce for Boeing only fuel tanks at a price below cost.

[Jurkovs]

A meaningless set of bukoff. It is difficult to comment on the nonsense of Ukrainian officials, you can get yourself an appointment with a psychiatrist.

[Old26]

Yes, stuffing it. Nafig the United States to bother with Ukraine when it is quite fruitfully cooperating with Russia. Considering what the subsequent use of our NK-33 engines, brought to the "required condition" by Ukrainian specialists, the United States came to the conclusion that it is better to buy new ones from Russia instead of the old engine. The contract was concluded for the supply of 60 engines for almost $ 1 billion for the Antares missiles

[Amurets]

Old26! Clarifying question? When we discussed the prospects of engine building in the USA, it was noticed that the Americans refused to buy NK-33 engines. So this old contract is ongoing or a new one has been concluded.

[C2H5OH]

Our homogeneous media and not yet write ... And a link to the same information from Boeing is weak to provide?))

[Old26]

Quote: Amurets

So this old contract is ongoing or a new one has been concluded.

New, Nikolai. And besides, not on NK-33 engines, but on RD-181. Delivery for 3 years starting in 2015

[mamont5]

Quote: Darkmor

Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

Well, if they do sign it, then the Amers will have to be offended only by themselves, when
1. Money will be eaten, but there will be no rockets
2. The rocket will be, but will fly only from top to bottom.

[AdekvatNICK]

there is nothing about this on the company's official website, so this is a fake.