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Boeing plans to buy launch vehicles from the Ukrainian "Yuzhmash"

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The American company Boeing and the Ukrainian plant "Yuzhmash" and the design bureau "Yuzhnoye" concluded an agreement providing for the delivery of launch vehicles and engines, RIA reports "News" with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".




“The parties reached such an agreement in Washington. According to the head of the national space agency Lyubomir Sabodash, one of the conditions of the American side is the lack of cooperation between Ukraine and countries that are under American sanctions, ”the Ukrainian TV channel reported.

Yuzhnoye Design Office will make deliveries of launch vehicles for launching Antares and Zenit missiles. It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation on the end of October - beginning of November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.

“Boeing is interested in continuing cooperation with Ukraine in the direction of the Sea Launch, also interested in the project, which Kiev proposed to create a new satellite that would help Ukraine to realize telecommunication tasks,” said the head of the National Space Agency of Ukraine Lyubomir Sabodash.

It is worth noting that at the moment the United States is purchasing engines from the Russian Federation.
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  1. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 10 September 2015 05: 34 New
    +9
    The keyword is "planning." And slaps on the shoulder partner)))
    1. Darkmor
      Darkmor 10 September 2015 05: 41 New
      +23
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      The keyword is "planning."

      no, keyword:
      with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".


      I did not find confirmation of the American side in the news.
      I did not find the details of the contract.
      I have not found even approximate volumes of investments and production.
      I did not find timeline data.
      They did not even sign a memorandum of intent.
      Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

      The whole news is that the UKRO official says that they "will have everything to get hurt and abroad will help us."
      You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 September 2015 06: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: Darkmor
        The whole news is that the UKRO official says that they "will have everything to get hurt and abroad will help us."

        And you need to read it this way: "Ukraine is looking for someone to sell the remnants of previously imported rocket engines from the Pivdenny warehouses." That's all.
        1. SteelRatTV
          SteelRatTV 10 September 2015 06: 19 New
          0
          The key here is "... the lack of cooperation of Ukraine with countries under US sanctions." request What kind of countries are these? repeat
          1. svp67
            svp67 10 September 2015 06: 22 New
            0
            Quote: SteelRatTV
            What kind of countries are these?

            Russia, DPRK, Syria, while Iran ...
      2. scientist
        scientist 10 September 2015 06: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Darkmor
        but over the past year I have ceased to take word of word with officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.

        The regime that came to power as a result of a coup d'etat and destroys its own people cannot be trusted even if they sign documents. Most are ordinary terrorists. As recently announced by the TFR, many, starting with Yatsenyuk, are comrade-in-arms of Maskhadov and Dudaev, therefore it is not necessary to conduct negotiations with them, but to wet them with the toilet.
      3. mirag2
        mirag2 10 September 2015 06: 36 New
        +3
        News from virtual reality, or a parallel world, if you like. It has already been refuted by the Boeing itself.
      4. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 10 September 2015 07: 30 New
        0
        You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials.
        And before that holy chtol believed? belay
      5. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 10 September 2015 09: 19 New
        0
        You are right .... In the morning news, the representative of the Boeing company completely denied these reports of the Ukrainian media .....
      6. fox21h
        fox21h 10 September 2015 14: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Darkmor
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        The keyword is "planning."

        no, keyword:
        with reference to the site TSN Ukrainian TV channel "1 + 1".


        I did not find confirmation of the American side in the news.
        I did not find the details of the contract.
        I have not found even approximate volumes of investments and production.
        I did not find timeline data.
        They did not even sign a memorandum of intent.
        Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

        The whole news is that the UKRO official says that they "will have everything to get hurt and abroad will help us."
        You will forgive me, but over the past year I have ceased to take word-for-word officials. Especially if this word passes through the drain tank ukro-media.


        There has already been a rebuttal by Boeing
    2. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 10 September 2015 06: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      The keyword "plans"

      In fact - another verbiage, designed for the ears of ordinary Svidomo.
    3. Constructor1
      Constructor1 10 September 2015 06: 29 New
      +3
      Boeing plans to purchase rocket carriers from Ukrainian Yuzhmash


      Today in the morning they broadcast on the news ... - "But the Boeing is not in the know" laughing
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 10 September 2015 06: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Designer 1
        Today in the morning they broadcast on the news ... - "But the Boeing is not in the know"

        Here, here ... +
    4. sir.jonn
      sir.jonn 10 September 2015 08: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      The keyword is "planning." And slaps on the shoulder partner)))

      Do not plan. This Ukrainians fantasize. This morning on TV: Boeing representatives are not aware of any agreements.
  2. svp67
    svp67 10 September 2015 05: 34 New
    +4
    I wonder whose engines they are going to supply? They were also delivered to Pivdenne from Russia.
  3. Barboskin
    Barboskin 10 September 2015 05: 37 New
    +5
    A real engine, and rockets will fly straight ?!
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 10 September 2015 05: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Barboskin
      A real engine, and rockets will fly straight ?!

      Both the engine will be real, and they will fly, only NASA will buy it all in Russia first, and in order not to bother with the sanctioned topic, they will bring it to the south. Previously, a pair of resistors were soldered instead of Russian to Ukrainian (replacing electronics). But after the well-known explosion, they optimized it: they changed the stickers: and the cost is lower and nothing will explode, although it doesn’t explode into the account ... all of a sudden, on the southern mashine they will attach something on their own initiative.
    2. Afinogen
      Afinogen 10 September 2015 06: 28 New
      +3
      [quote = Barboskin] And what about the real engine, and the rockets will fly straight?! [/ quote

      The engines are real and they will be something like this! laughing


  4. vovanpain
    vovanpain 10 September 2015 05: 38 New
    +11
    Dreaming is not harmful with such partners it would be better to buy trampolines.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 10 September 2015 05: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: vovanpain
      Dreaming is not harmful with such partners it would be better to buy trampolines.


      And what, it would be, it would not be bad))) A drum on the neck and forward. It is even interesting laughing That's just why Boeing? Or again reported ...?
  5. Name
    Name 10 September 2015 05: 38 New
    +2
    Greetings to all! Regular tales from dill.
  6. Kamikadze19
    Kamikadze19 10 September 2015 05: 42 New
    +5
    This is a fake, Boeing has officially denied these messages
  7. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 10 September 2015 05: 42 New
    +1
    Free-will! (I'm talking about Americans)
    salvation, paradise! (I'm talking about astronauts)
  8. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 10 September 2015 05: 42 New
    +4
    taking into account the fact that a significant part of the specialists dumped from the Outskirts to Russia, and the enterprises did not work for more than a year, it is doubtful that the Yusovites will get what they want. in 1951, the Dnepropetrovsk automotive tractor plant was reprofiled for the production of rockets, now it is time to “re-profile” back ...
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 10 September 2015 07: 56 New
      0
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      in 1951, the Dnepropetrovsk automotive tractor plant was reprofiled for the production of rockets, now it is time to “re-profile” back ...

      no Oh, I'm afraid that they will not pull the tractor request ... Horse-harness factory yes - this is the maximum of what can come out of Yuzhmash in 5 years ... True, by then they will devour all the horses sad or starve to death, but nothing, help, hedgehogs tossed them. From you, by the way, 2 buckets of hedgehogs. You have a lot of them there ... drinks
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 10 September 2015 11: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: wicked partisan
        . From you, by the way, 2 buckets of hedgehogs. You have a lot of them there ...

        Fuck you, I'll eat it myself!)))))
  9. VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 10 September 2015 05: 43 New
    +5
    Actually, the captured German rocket designers and rocket designers are over, now the star-streaked punks are looking for those around the world. Ukrainian specialists are also almost over. And the punks lack catastrophic money.
  10. samoletil18
    samoletil18 10 September 2015 05: 45 New
    +1
    Why, the documentation hasn’t been taken out of the souther mash yet? Is there something left?
    I get it. It was not digitized to sell by weight
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 10 September 2015 05: 46 New
    +5
    Antonov designers, they say, almost completely moved to Russia.
  12. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 10 September 2015 05: 47 New
    0
    “... one of the conditions on the American side is the lack of cooperation between Ukraine and countries that are under American sanctions,” the Ukrainian television channel said.
    And what does Ukraine create without Russia ??? Blah blah blah already tired of them you can not feed ordinary people, but PR - you can. Words designed for Ukrainian fool.
  13. dckx
    dckx 10 September 2015 05: 51 New
    +2
    Very similar to the "fake" from Ukraine. Well, why it is not known what to buy for a Boeing, what, because with a high degree of probability all the source documentation has already been transferred to the minkes - well, if only technological processes are disclosed (and that is unlikely). The goal of democracy is to destroy production from the "partners" and sell their own.
  14. Dezinto
    Dezinto 10 September 2015 05: 56 New
    +2
    Happily fly ...

    Let Ukrainian amulets wrap themselves with rockets ...
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 10 September 2015 06: 19 New
      +1
      Embroideries?
  15. sagitch
    sagitch 10 September 2015 05: 57 New
    +3
    We are angry and of course we want the plant to stand up and not work for the Americans. But this is a market, and the plant is unique.

    It was not necessary to build it in Ukraine initially!
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 10 September 2015 06: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: sagitch
      It was not necessary to build it in Ukraine initially!

      It was built under the USSR — someone knew that it was so bored.
    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 10 September 2015 06: 21 New
      +1
      And in the Baltic ports had to be built? There was one country.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 10 September 2015 09: 45 New
        +2
        And in the Baltics, such an industry has been wiped off that it still hiccups. Precision engineering and machine tool building plants, electrical and radio engineering factories, and not just ports. We have destroyed them for evil to please the EU. Now we collect components, who will sell them, and the Baltic states they are asking for subsidies from the EU. They have achieved freedom. Freedom of fascism, lack of money and, as yesterday at the VO forum, it turned out that the status of a prostitute was a vocation.
  16. Sasha75
    Sasha75 10 September 2015 06: 05 New
    +1
    Here vodka will be drunk with lard, and let me rave, I'm already afraid to drink, but I look with suspicion on lard, maybe he eats them from him or they don’t eat it, but smoke or sniff it))).
    But seriously, let them try, buy, arrange a firework, if it’s ten, so that it’s also important for us to pocket, but we who don’t know the Chinese oh how they ask to buy a party and oh. how they want technology, but we said we won’t give it, but we will sell it. So we stand in line for them and let them just jerk, they will be in line first from the end.
  17. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 10 September 2015 06: 08 New
    +4
    Good morning fellow countrymen. I have always been amused by disputes with the Americans
    were on the moon --- were not ... They are stubborn bending their own. But then the question was
    engines and now we buy in Russia what happened? forgot how to do?
    Silent. Education lacks to argue.
    R.S. Yes, someone will explain to me what FOREVA means I hear many times
    on the video from Donbass and others. Thankful in advance.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 September 2015 06: 10 New
      0
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      R.S. Yes, someone will explain to me what FOREVA means

      Forever.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 September 2015 06: 26 New
      0
      We also had, almost ready N-1, Energia and Buran, and now we are designing heavy carriers and ships - have forgotten how to do it? smile
    3. evil partisan
      evil partisan 10 September 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      Quote: B- 3ACADE
      will someone explain to me what FOREVA means

      And in the 70s, people knew how to translate forever:
      "The berry is in the field forever." That's exactly how one music critic in his article like "What the Beatles sings about?" translated the Beatles song title "Strawberry fields" into Russian forever ".
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 September 2015 06: 08 New
    0
    Even if such an agreement was actually signed, then this is just another attempt by the Americans to support Ukraine. There were too many assurances on their part about the help and support of Ukraine. When they themselves see that their "Ukraine project" is bursting at the seams, then what kind of agreements you will not go to maintain your image.
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 10 September 2015 06: 27 New
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      what kind of agreements you’re not going to support your image.

      America is not the USSR - for "just like that" they will not support anyone! For the loot - please!
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 10 September 2015 10: 17 New
        0
        They (Americans) have an interest in Ukraine for the future and interest is not small. Therefore, while they support it, and the time will come they will strip it off like sticky.
  19. mvg
    mvg 10 September 2015 06: 20 New
    0
    but zenith (Dnieper), with a sea launch, like Khokhlyatsky? we just refused it because of this!
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 10 September 2015 07: 59 New
      +1
      Yeah. We have 2 more. In stock since 2014. One with the weather satellite will be launched from Baikonur in November. And I don’t know the second, probably the Americans were sold under the guise of that from Yuzhmash, that’s the article needed in the press release. Everything is fair: a rocket - to the Americans, money - to Russia, glory - to Ukraine!
  20. engineer74
    engineer74 10 September 2015 06: 23 New
    0
    “Memorandum of cooperation” does not mean “getting married”!
  21. isker
    isker 10 September 2015 06: 27 New
    0
    Quote: B- 3ACADE
    Good morning fellow countrymen. I have always been amused by disputes with the Americans
    were on the moon --- were not ... They are stubborn bending their own. But then the question was
    engines and now we buy in Russia what happened? forgot how to do?
    Silent. Education lacks to argue.

    There were no Americans on the moon. For paying support to the USSR for their lies, they paid in full with it, primarily with strategic grain and the USSR’s right to sell its oil to Europe.
  22. anfil
    anfil 10 September 2015 06: 40 New
    0
    It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation until late October - early November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.

    A memorandum is far from a treaty.
  23. ARES623
    ARES623 10 September 2015 06: 57 New
    +1
    I think that it is possible that the Americans will have some plans for using the capacities of Yuzhny, Yuzhmash and some other industries, precisely so that, in a state of agony, they will not resume any cooperation with Russia. In some cases, in the 90s, enterprises in Russia were bought by foreign "investors" specifically to liquidate it together with the industrial site and personnel.
  24. pvv113
    pvv113 10 September 2015 07: 00 New
    0
    Ukrainian plant "Yuzhmash" and design office "Southern"

    Did competent specialists stay there? I know people who left there, quitting work. But not every cook can build rockets.
  25. uav80
    uav80 10 September 2015 08: 13 New
    +1
    Somehow quickly Permoga turned into Zrada ...

    Boeing refutes the conclusion of a contract for the purchase of rocket engines with Ukraine ...

    Boeing did not sign any contracts and agreements with Ukraine on cooperation in the field of space programs, said Vesti. Economics, Elena Alexandrova, director of public relations at Boeing in Russia and the CIS.

    PS: yes, and what can Boeing decide without Russia in Sea Launch if it belongs to Energia Overseas Limited, which in its turn is the daughter of Energia Corporation
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 10 September 2015 09: 04 New
      0
      Thank God, the management of the Boeing company has confirmed its mental health!
      They probably understand that Ukraine will gladly accept the order, only it will not be able to fulfill it.
      As in that joke about a dog about whom they ask whether he is able to eat two kilos of meat at a time. The owner replies: "Zist zin wines, that one, what do you give him?"
  26. Old26
    Old26 10 September 2015 08: 28 New
    0
    Quote: sagitch
    We are angry and of course we want the plant to stand up and not work for the Americans. But this is a market, and the plant is unique.

    It was. A good missile design bureau, which for a quarter of a century has not created a single missile.

    Well, what a fake note is clear to everyone. It’s enough to even look at the text

    CB Yuzhnoye will supply rockets for launching Antares and Zenit missiles. It is planned that the national space agency and Boeing will sign a memorandum of cooperation until the end of October - beginning of November, in anticipation of the visit of the NASA delegation to Ukraine.


    The design bureau will supply rocket carriers. Not the factory that should do them, but the design bureau. Further. Deliveries of launch vehicles for launching Antares and Zenit rockets. All over the world, launch vehicles are designed to launch spacecraft and satellites, while in Ukraine they are designed to launch rockets. Well, launching the Zenith is cool. Not only is Russia abandoned these missiles, as Ukraine lifted up prices for them, making them about the same as prices for the Proton, which raises about twice as much, the Russian Zenit engines, and Antares will no longer use NK- 33 modified by the Ukrainian side to the point where they begin to explode. In short - delirium and hypertrophied conceit of the country 404
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 10 September 2015 08: 57 New
      0
      The fact that the missiles were not intended to launch satellites was initially not an obstacle. It is possible to remake them. But! Six waves of mobilization, a long idle time of the enterprise, the general situation in the country, where there is not even a guarantee that there will be heat and light in winter, lack of personnel continuity, problems with cooperation, machine tools, specialists, experimental research base, logistics, etc. d. - here, this is a real problem. And she makes one doubt the reality of order fulfillment.
  27. Old26
    Old26 10 September 2015 09: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Bison
    The fact that the missiles were not intended to launch satellites was initially not an obstacle. It is possible to remake them. But! Six waves of mobilization, a long idle time of the enterprise, the general situation in the country, where there is not even a guarantee that there will be heat and light in winter, lack of personnel continuity, problems with cooperation, machine tools, specialists, experimental research base, logistics, etc. d. - here, this is a real problem. And she makes one doubt the reality of order fulfillment.

    These missiles were originally intended to launch satellites. But never rocket launchers not intended to launch rocketsas in a note from the Ukrainian media
  28. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 September 2015 09: 29 New
    0
    Well, yes, this will be a big “breakthrough” of the American cosmonautics! They have rich experience in cooperation, especially in the “reworking” of Russian-Soviet NK-33 engines, well, and how did it end, would anyone remind me !? But how are these specialists from Boeing and in principle with what and by whom will they replace Russian participation in the work of Yuzhmash ?! All this is another "stuffing" in order to support someone and scare someone! It’s terrible to be terrible: spaceships under the yellow-black-and-white and star-striped flags plow the expanses of the Universe, and there you look at Mars and “swing” together! But as they say: “Ruble strike, Hu strike!” Poor “Boeing”, with such "partners" there is no need for enemies: if they don’t drink, they will soprut or break! Although the plan can be said to be good for eliminating potential competitors!
    1. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 10 September 2015 09: 39 New
      0
      In reality, Yuzhmash can produce for Boeing only fuel tanks at a price below cost.
  29. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 10 September 2015 09: 38 New
    0
    A meaningless set of bukoff. It is difficult to comment on the nonsense of Ukrainian officials, you can get yourself an appointment with a psychiatrist.
  30. Old26
    Old26 10 September 2015 09: 38 New
    +1
    Yes, stuffing it. What for does the USA bother with Ukraine when it cooperates quite fruitfully with Russia. Considering what the subsequent use of our NK-33 engines, brought to the "necessary condition" by Ukrainian specialists in the United States, could lead to, it is better to buy new ones from Russia instead of the old one. The contract was concluded for the supply of 60 engines for almost $ 1 billion for the Antares missiles.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 10 September 2015 10: 03 New
      +2
      Old26! Clarifying question? When we discussed the prospects of engine building in the USA, it was noticed that the Americans refused to buy NK-33 engines. So this old contract is ongoing or a new one has been concluded.
  31. C2H5OH
    C2H5OH 10 September 2015 09: 51 New
    0
    Our homogeneous media and not yet write ... And a link to the same information from Boeing is weak to provide?))
  32. Old26
    Old26 10 September 2015 10: 10 New
    0
    Quote: Amurets
    So this old contract is ongoing or a new one has been concluded.

    New, Nikolai. And besides, not on NK-33 engines, but on RD-181. Delivery for 3 years starting in 2015
  33. mamont5
    mamont5 10 September 2015 11: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Darkmor
    Those. There is NO contract, and what it will be, and whether it will be at all, is unknown.

    Well, if they do sign it, then the Amers will have to be offended only by themselves, when
    1. Money will be eaten, but there will be no rockets
    2. The rocket will be, but will fly only from top to bottom.
  34. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 16: 44 New
    0
    there is nothing about this on the company's official website, so this is a fake.