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Tanks of the Russian Empire

During the First World War, the first Tankswhich at the end of the war were actively used by both sides. At this time in Russia, the world's first armored vehicles appeared on the front, which became the beginning of another branch of modern armored vehicles. Now many interested in armored vehicles know such projects of Russian tanks as the all-terrain vehicle Porokhovshchikova and the Tsar Tank, but there were other projects that never saw the light of day. In this article I will try not just to write history create tanks, paint the performance characteristics, but also consider their place on the battlefield.

Porohovschikova Rover

Aleksandr Aleksandrovich Porokhovshchikov, who at that time was working at the Russo-Balt plant, began work on his all-terrain vehicle in the 1914 year. The project was a high-speed tracked armored vehicle for off-road driving. By January, 1915-th documentation was ready, 18 in May of the same year, the machine came to the test. In winter, funding for the project was discontinued due to the fact that the snow flow did not exceed 30 cm (1 feet). Interestingly, the all-terrain vehicle was tested as a non-combat vehicle.

Tanks of the Russian Empire

Alexander Porokhovshchikov and colonel Poklevsky-Kozello supervising the construction of the vehicle

The crew consisted of one person who was in the center. MTO was located behind. In general, such a layout can be called a classic, given the size of the crew. The body is welded. The Volt engine, a 2-cylinder, carburetor, with air cooling, developed the power of the 10 hp, which allowed the 3,5-ton car to develop speed in tests of the 25 km / h. According to some reports, in winter, the all-terrain vehicle 1916 accelerated to 40 versts / h (≈43 km / h), which is doubtful. The running gear most of all reminded modern snowmobiles - the only canvas caterpillar is stretched on drums, stretched under the bottom. Purely tracked was used for off-road driving. The main course was still wheeled-tracked - on two wheels and a rear drum. Such a device made it possible to reduce the pressure on the ground (of the order of 0,05 kg / cm2), but it was too difficult for turns and design. In the process of testing Porokhovshchikov continuously modifying the chassis.

One of the most interesting features of the machine was the reservation - round, ricochet shapes and a multi-layer construction of boiler iron and layers of dried pressed sea grass. According to the inventor, such armor could withstand a machine-gun burst. In the experimental version in the frontal plane there was an air intake lure, drastically reducing the advanced hull design, although in the later drawings this vulnerable area was eliminated. Armament from a single machine gun was in the swivel turret, which never appeared to be tested, but was visible on the drawings.

In 1916, Porokhovshchikov began the development of a large crew 2 all-terrain vehicle, powerful for that time for a light machine, armament from 3 machine guns, one heading and two turrets rotating one over the other. Chassis improved - now the basis were 4 wheels. Armor has lost round shape. Before the revolution, the prototype machine was never released.

Rover-2, or Rover of 16 year

Let many consider Porokhovshchikov’s all-terrain vehicle the first Russian tank — far from it. The first machine was not adapted to the battles - low maneuverability, power density, inability to conduct a search for a target, firing and movement, imperfection of armor. Although the design of armor and ahead of its time for half a century, but the real fighting strength of the boiler iron with a layer of sea grass could not give. Although the ricochet form could have reflected some hits, it would hardly be difficult for the rifle pool to penetrate such armor from short distances. The appearance of multi-layered armor in 60-70-x is due to counteraction to cumulative ammunition, and not to the growth of the power of kinetic shells. Among the minuses of the all-terrain vehicle, as can be noted, the caterpillar vulnerability. The vertical wall to be overcome was also low. But despite all these shortcomings, in many ways the car was revolutionary, because The first tank of the classic layout appeared in 1917, the rational armor tilt angles were implemented in the 30, and the one-track scheme still lives on snowmobiles.

Tsar tank

The project of captain Nikolai Nikolaevich Lebedenko is still the largest linear-sized tank embodied in metal. The length of 17,7 m, width 12 m, height 9 m, which, frankly, a very controversial achievement. The idea of ​​the tank Lebedenko, in his own words, took the carts with two high wheels, which easily overcame the Caucasian impassability with mud, stones, pits. According to the inventor, the scheme of an armored gun would be very useful for breaking through the defense lines with its moats, trenches, shell craters and the main enemy of the infantry and cavalry — a machine gun. Having shown purposefulness, worthy of imitation, Lebedenko achieved that he was taken over by the emperor. The clockwork of the tank was very fascinating to the sovereign, and money, money and labor were allocated immediately. In the metal, the king-tank was made by August, and 27 numbers began running trials. The tests failed miserably, and the car until the 1923 was standing in the woods near Dmitrov, where it was dismantled for metal.

The tank was an enlarged gun carriage with one bed. Monsters were pushed by two captured Maybach aviation carburetor engines with 250 horsepower, which allowed them to accelerate to 10 km / h over rough terrain and 17 km / h along the road. Power reserve was about 40-60 km. A tank weighing in tons of 60 was testing trees without difficulty, as the inventor assumed. The booking was 10 mm in a circle and 8 mm in the roof and bottom, and in the project these figures were 7 and 5 mm, respectively. The crew in 15 people climbed into the fighting compartment on the frame (forgive me reader for the name of this element of the design). The armament consisted of 2 X-gun 76-mm cannon and 8-10 machine guns, which was the most powerful weapon by the standards of that time.

Let's go to the sad. One of the reasons for the refusal of the military from a high-traffic combat vehicle was its ... low permeability. Due to the improper balance of the design, the bed frame fell into the ground, and 500 hp engines did not have enough to pull the tank. Huge wheels, according to the commission, were too vulnerable for artillery, in which they were absolutely right - it is difficult to miss in a mastodon of such size. Armor without tilt angles, so it would hardly be able to reliably protect the crew. A huge number of trunks made it difficult to maintain and adjust the fire. Unlike the Porokhovshchikov all-terrain vehicle, the tsar-tank was adapted for combat, but not enough to become a breakthrough vehicle.

Mendeleev's tank

This tank, though not embodied in the metal, but in many ways his ideas ahead of time, making it a prototype for heavy SPGs. The creator of this miracle was the son of our great scientist D.I. Mendeleev Vasily Dmitrievich Mendeleev, ship engineer. The tank was designed from 1911 year. And despite the detailed elaboration of the drawings that honor the Russian school of engineers, the military did not take the "armored car" (as Mendeleev called his creation) seriously.

What was so special about the tank? First, the steel hardened armor, which withstands 6-DM projectile, was calculated to reach 150 mm in the hull forehead, 100 mm from the sides and stern, 8 mm on the bottom and 76 mm of the roof, however, there were no rational tilt angles. Thus, only heavy artillery could disable the tank. The armament was not inferior - the Kanet 120-mm cannon (45 barrel length, 5400 mm) in the front plate with ammunition in 51 projectile and the angle of horizontal guidance in 32 degree. Additionally, the tank was equipped with a Maxim machine gun in a swiveling turret, which was retracted into the tank. MTO and the entrance to the tank were located in the stern. The crew consisted of a 8 man. The length was 13 m, width 4,4 m and height - 4,45 m with a tower. Undercarriage crawler, consisted of 6 rollers, guide and sloth. Air suspension, allowing you to change the ground clearance (!) And go to the tank on the ground, turning into a pillbox. The weak spot was the gasoline 4-cylinder engine in the 250 hp. on 173 tons, which was negligible. The estimated speed was 25 km / h, which was unlikely with such an engine.

And despite all the awkwardness of the "armored car", Mendeleev created the best Russian tank project for his time. Simplifying the suspension design, cutting off excess armor, loosening weapons, we could get our solution to the position impasse of the First World War, but history does not tolerate the subjunctive mood, so let’s leave it to science fiction writers.

Tank Rybinsk plant

This car was first written in 1956 in the book of V.D. Mostovenko. "Tanks" (there is a second edition, amended and supplemented). The tank looked reminiscent of Mendeleev - the same brick on the tracks with a gun, though in the stern plate. The engine is in the middle. Reservations are much more modest - presumably 12 mm forehead and feed, 10 mm board. The armament consisted of either a 107-mm cannon and a large-caliber machine gun, or 76-mm and 20-mm automatic cannons. Suspension of the type of French tanks from the tractor Holt. The petrol engine, the 200 hp, looked good on a car weighing either 12 or 20 tons. In general, the car turned out modern and looked great on the battlefield, but did not enter the assembly.

There were other projects of tanks in the Russian Empire, but many know so little that sometimes it is not known whether this or that project was real or whether it was the fantasies of later authors.
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  1. askold
    askold 12 September 2015 06: 21 New
    The tsar tank is certainly impressive, it is necessary to build it! It is to be embodied in metal. It would be possible to make the reconstruction of such a machine and show it in exhibitions, "Russia cannot be understood by the mind ..", but its magnitude and grandeur can only be seen with a bulky head.
    By the way, we have Umelets. Novosibirsk region Kolyvan. The Siberian Fire reconstruction festival, the recreated T-28 tank (outwardly the armored hull looks like a real, naturally without armor, chassis from the tractor, while not on the move).
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    2. bionik
      bionik 12 September 2015 07: 00 New
      T-35. The only one in the world that has survived to this day. Link: https: //
    3. askold
      askold 12 September 2015 07: 18 New
      Side projection.
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    5. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 07: 45 New
      This is Vyacheslav Verevochkin did. But he died, alas, immediately after the death of his son. Heart could not resist. And so his collection is the richest and many tanks on the go! What fate awaits them now?
      1. bionik
        bionik 12 September 2015 12: 19 New
        Vyacheslav Verevochkin
    6. igordok
      igordok 12 September 2015 08: 25 New
      Quote: askold
      recreated T-28 tank

      In Pskov restored T-28. The corps and some towers were taken from fortified areas. The epaulettes of the tower were ground on machines.
    7. cosmos111
      cosmos111 12 September 2015 11: 46 New
      Tank Rybinsk plant

      TTX: long- 5 met, height -2 met, width-2 met ..... crew: 4 people ... top speed: 10-15 km / h ((8 km / h)))

      comparative dimensions ((visually))), Mendeleev’s tanks, Rybinsk plant and M113
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    9. cosmos111
      cosmos111 12 September 2015 11: 58 New
      "Bat" / "Tsar-Tank" designer N. Lebedenko
    10. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 12 September 2015 13: 20 New
      This is not a "reconstruction" of the tank.
      The term "reconstruction" - meaning:
      Reconstruction - (from re ... and Latin constructio - construction) -1) radical reconstruction, reconstruction of something in order to improve, improve (e.g., reconstruction of enterprises, reconstruction of the city) .2) Restoration of the original form, appearance of something or from remnants or written sources (e.g. reconstruction of an architectural monument) .3) Linguistic reconstruction - a hypothetical reconstruction of disappeared language forms and systems based on their later reflections and taking into account possible ways of language development.
      Recently, reconstruction has also been called as a rule the exact imitation (reconstruction or remake) of the form of clothing, arming of soldiers of previous centuries and theatrical costumed performances, which is actually a good thing. And the T-28 in the picture is a homemade product, an approximate (albeit rather similar) imitation of real technology. Which in my opinion is very ambiguous - because You can imitate in different ways. It is possible this way (by creating another freak, passing him off as a real fighting vehicle - by the way there are a lot of such people and should we talk about what negative impact they have on the younger generation):
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 12 September 2015 14: 28 New
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        This is not a "reconstruction" of the tank.
        The term "reconstruction" - meaning:

        can be called-REPLICA ((replika / replica - - the author’s copy (repetition), which differs from the original in dimensions or details)))), using the drawings of the original is expensive ...
        cheap - just copy / simulate the case ...
        1. sabakina
          sabakina 12 September 2015 19: 27 New
          Still, I wonder why the tiger has a steering wheel, and not levers? ...
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 12 September 2015 19: 43 New
            Quote: sabakina
            why does a tiger have a steering wheel and not levers? ...

            the Tiger was controlled through the hydraulic system, in case of malfunction, the m / v had 2 hand levers with which it controlled the brakes of turns, as well as the parking brakes ...
  2. askold
    askold 12 September 2015 06: 29 New
    Two German self-propelled guns were also presented at the festival, one of them being Ferdinand (Elephant) ..
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  4. askold
    askold 12 September 2015 06: 43 New
    ..and "StuG-III", both on the go. Of course, everyone’s suspension is from tractors, but believe me, when they move, you don’t pay attention to it.
  5. Amurets
    Amurets 12 September 2015 07: 04 New
    In principle, the article is good. More precisely, the review. Developments began in all countries when World War I assumed a positional character. The idea of ​​an armored car was born in Russia during the Russo-Japanese War. It was an armored car Nakashidze. In principle, it can be considered the forerunner of tanks. After it tests and there were projects to overcome the shortcomings of the armored car. But there were no obvious ways to overcome the shortcomings. There were exotic projects, there were projects for booking tractors. But unfortunately we haven’t reached our time. Mikulin and Stechkin worked on the engines for the tanks. Adolf Kegress, the mechanic of the royal garage, worked on the transmission and tracks, but unfortunately the revolutions and the civil war slowed down these works. As well as the lack of components and assemblies for the transmission and engines. Because the Russo-Balt plant were able to successfully evacuate, and the mechanics shop at AMO was launched sometime by 1919. That’s why they were the first to build the Renault FT in 1920. But there were projects. Tank Maximov’s project, shield design. These are the most famous projects. There were other projects.
    1. clidon
      clidon 12 September 2015 21: 24 New
      .An idea of ​​an armored car was born in Russia during the Russo-Japanese War. It was an armored car Nakashidze.

      "The idea of ​​protecting the car with armor came soon after the invention of the gasoline engine. James Cowen proposed his five-wheeled armored car on the basis of the Burella steam tractor in 1885. The armored hull with 50 loopholes for shooters had a hemispherical shape. At the base of the car there were four scythe-knives that rotated while driving and threatened those approaching it. The armament consisted of eight small-caliber guns. In tests, the machine showed a speed of 8 km / h. Due to poor handling and low strength, it was not accepted for servation.
      The first armored car project was presented in 1896 by the American inventor I.D. Pennington. The first real armored car was built in 1902 in the UK by F. R. Simms. "
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 12 September 2015 07: 05 New
    The Mendeleev’s tank is impressive, it’s a pity there was no engine for it .. They put Maybach on the tsar-tank, from a downed German airship ..
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 07: 43 New
      One of the most interesting features of the machine was the reservation - round, ricochet shapes and a multi-layer construction of boiler iron and layers of dried pressed sea grass. According to the inventor, such armor could withstand a machine-gun burst. Rave! The documents do not have what is offered in his "tank". Separately - there is a photo - such armor was tested installed vertically on a car, but not on a tank. The “armor” of the tested car was wooden - see photo. And in the drawings of the rover tower there. This is then dotted it pririsovili. By the way. ABOUT ALL THIS HERE ALREADY WRITTEN. There are no innovations and ... why replicate the absurdities of 1948 - 56? Moving on ... Due to the wrong balance of the design, the bed frame fell into the ground, and the 500 hp engines did not have enough to pull the tank. Wrong! Power just enough! But the drive to the drive wheels was this: two car wheels pressed to the rim! Dampness, dirt - and there is no adhesion and they slip. When you write about the first Russian tanks, such details should be known! Do you really want to say a new word - to the archive, please. He is in Moscow on the embankment ... No need to go to Podolsk! Of course, it is possible and necessary to write about our first tanks, but ... why repeat in the wrong direction? And at the same time demonstrate your ignorance!
      By the way, about the machine gun on the diagram. It is not to scale on any of the dotted patterns - which is easy to check. Because if it were to scale, then ... the driver would not have left there!
      1. Volga Cossack
        Volga Cossack 12 September 2015 08: 03 New
        absolutely right - about the scale.
      2. parusnik
        parusnik 12 September 2015 11: 31 New
        kalibr If you write about the Tsar Tank, I don’t need to agitate for him ... wink The design itself is a dead end ... a giant arba .. with a machine-gun tower .. The project of the Rybinsk factory, closer to the truth .. it's a pity that it remained a project .. The all-terrain vehicle Porokhovschikova is a testing platform .... of individual nodes, ideas .. no more .. But ..this is the dawn, the first rays of the dawn, of Russian tank building .. trials and mistakes .. That we are so literate now ... then we just started ... you need to be a little condescending .. hi
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 12 September 2015 12: 44 New
          Indulgent to whom? To the designers? Yes, I agree! To the authors fable - no! And why did you become so seduced by the tank of the Rybinsk plant? Complete nonsense. He has the nose where the machine gun is. And the gun sticks out of the train! Well, what did he ... hit the enemy, and the driver was driving ... how? Voice commands they managed? Or colored lights - to the left, to the right, more to the right. To the one who invented this no condescension will help!
      3. Forest
        12 September 2015 17: 59 New
        Thank you for the criticism, but initially I wanted to make the performance characteristics secondary, and the main thing was to look at the place of the tank on the battlefield. None of these machines ever appeared in the war, so there is not much to describe. About all-terrain vehicle armor - describes the equipment that should go into the series.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 12 September 2015 19: 35 New
          Want and do it different things. Yesterday I wanted to move the engine at the monument to move, but it did not work out. You really, since you took up such a complex topic, you shouldn’t have to rewrite Mostovenko’s book, but to see what already exists on the site and on other sites. What sources are referenced by the authors. You do not have the opportunity to get into the appropriate archive - look at this edition of “Like the Great War in Images and Pictures” - there are excellent tanks on the battlefield. Porokhovshchikov’s article “Land Fleet Russian invention” could also be found in the newspaper of that time. comments. By God, it would have been better. And in the documents there is nowhere that the Powdersmen offered his armor with grass exactly on the Rover. This is all bullshit! Separately, he offered it! And the scheme of the composite turret with three machine guns is stupidity, not achievement. The only tank where it was used "Trubia", precisely because of this, the Spanish tankers really disliked. Bad decision and very much so. So it is clear that the search, it is clear that he did not know, could not, did not think through, but in the end ... who is he after that? A loser, as they say now. So it is hardly worthwhile to uplift something that doesn’t have much to elevate. Vaughn Hetterington developed his “cruiser”, but no one pathetically says anything about him ... They made a mock up and forgot. And the tank MakFay - the same story. Nobody writes - the first amphibious tank. Screw can draw anyone! You are here to make it float! So you are more serious about the historiography of the question!
        2. kalibr
          kalibr 12 September 2015 20: 07 New
          There is one more complaint to you. Now I checked the level of novelty of your material on the Advego-Plagiatus system - it turned out to be only 3%. Any VO reader can verify this. Yes, I know that you can post any articles here, including those already printed somewhere. But at the same time, it is customary to indicate where a person from this or that material has skomunizdil, because the primary source of the publication is also interesting and knowledgeable people will say a lot. But if you wrote it yourself ... then 3% novelty for BO ...
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 12 September 2015 10: 49 New
      There were engines. During this period, the Nobel and Kolomna steam-engine building plants produced diesel engines of the required power and acceptable dimensions. At that time, the Kolomna plant produced a diesel-electric installation for ships and it weighed about the same as a diesel gearbox. Fuel supply was already provided by the device of the engineer Trinkler and the need for a bulky compressor disappeared. Actually, the device of the engineer Trinkler is a prototype of the high-pressure fuel pump.
  7. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 12 September 2015 08: 03 New
    overall a good article, but nothing new - alas .........
  8. sergant89
    sergant89 12 September 2015 09: 08 New
    And here is another photo (this year I went to Kubinka) there, there is something to see.
    1. bionik
      bionik 12 September 2015 09: 48 New
      Quote: sergant89
      (This year went to Kubinka) there, there is something to see.

      We also have something to see in Yekaterinburg. Museum of military equipment “Combat Glory of the Urals” in Verkhnyaya Pyshma.
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 12: 51 New
      I liked the generalissimo on your shoulder!
  9. sergant89
    sergant89 12 September 2015 09: 12 New
    This seems to be on the topic of the article.
    1. Raven1972
      Raven1972 12 September 2015 13: 50 New
      Quote: sergant89
      This seems to be on the topic of the article.

      He is the most, T-35 soldier He was recently put on the move, so that he is now quite acting hi
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 12 September 2015 15: 16 New
        This is a miracle! Low bow to all those who did it !!!
  10. sergant89
    sergant89 12 September 2015 10: 13 New
    Quote: bionik
    We also have something to see in Yekaterinburg. Museum of military equipment “Combat Glory of the Urals” in Verkhnyaya Pyshma.

    Thank you very much, I will definitely come back from Yamal next time. yes
    1. bionik
      bionik 12 September 2015 10: 41 New
      As the saying goes, "You will be in Kolyma ....." - you will not regret it, from medals to missiles and armored trains. Many exhibits are active.
  11. Thor
    Thor 12 September 2015 11: 45 New
    Mendeleev is a great clever girl, ahead of the time, having decided to use air suspension at that time, because then it was realized only in the mid-century in the 60s, on BMD, or by the Swedes, for example, on strw 103 !!
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 12: 47 New
      You want to say that just these of his "drawings" are enough to make a tank with such a weight on the air suspension? Yesterday I came up with an annihilation starship, ahead of time, and drew a diagram. And if we ignore the difficulties of technical implementation, the Nobel Prize is in my pocket! Air suspension at that time was already known. But on the "tank" is at least something to put - a monster completely stillborn.
      1. Thor
        Thor 12 September 2015 13: 19 New
        Well, Einstein, as you know, the same was a theorist, which does not cancel his contribution to physics! And about the air suspension (which allows you to change the clearance) at that time, please drop the link, I just honestly did not hear that at that time it would be used in armored vehicles projects! Yes, and the very decision to change the clearance, innovation at the time! If I'm wrong, discard the material, please!
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 12 September 2015 15: 02 New
          It was not used in armored vehicles, that’s true, there’s nothing to throw off! But there was already technology in the world.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 12 September 2015 13: 28 New
    Quote: kalibr
    And why did the tank of the Rybinsk plant seduce you so much? Complete nonsense

    And experience, the son of difficult mistakes ... Hmm ... even the weak light of the dawn ... you want to ... trample ... you can say that you trampled ... hi
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 15: 13 New
      Bad is the light - naked well ... on the enemy's trenches! Then what kind of armor do not put - you will not go far! And if so, then why is it to boast?
  13. IAlex
    IAlex 12 September 2015 14: 26 New
    As they would say about Tsar Tank in the Russian Federation: “it has no analogues in the world” :))))))))))))))))
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 12 September 2015 14: 46 New
      You are right and wrong.
      The Tsar Tank Captain Lebedenko (aka Bat) was an English counterpart, and in January 1915 the British Admiralty received the project of the “Land Cruiser” Major Hetherington.
      Major RNAS Hetherington presented the project of the "land cruiser", which was a giant three-wheeled vehicle 30 meters long, 24 meters wide and 14 meters high. The diameter of the wheels was supposed to be 12 meters. Each of the three towers, protected by 75 mm armor, had to be installed but two four-inch guns. The author suggested installing a 800-liter diesel engine on the “cruiser”. with. and electric transmission. With a weight of 300 tons, the car had to reach speeds of up to 13 km / h, overcome walls up to 6 m high and rivers up to 4,5 m deep; it could force the Rhine.
      When checking, it turned out that the actual weight of the machine should not be 300 tons, but about 1000, and the speed should be no more than 3 km / h. The main reason why the project was rejected was the great vulnerability of the “cruiser” from heavy artillery fire. But if the Tsar Tank was at least able to build and test (though unsuccessfully, which in principle was predictable), then the British did not even have the courage to materialize their mega-project. Pictures of this tank (at least I didn’t find the project scheme).
      You are right that no one else built a tank similar to the “Bat” of Lebedenko’s design, and you are wrong, because he still had analogues, another thing is that they didn’t get to their construction.
      In general, super-heavy tanks at all times have never (!) Participated in real combat operations, remaining a kind of engineering and design ground for the subsequent development of lighter machines.
      I have the honor.
  14. moskowit
    moskowit 12 September 2015 17: 56 New
    All this is very well and intelligibly described in the book "Tank" 1954 of the year of publication.

    And for visual perception, the film "Armor of Russia" was shot in 2009 and repeatedly shown by the TV channel "Star".
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 12 September 2015 19: 22 New
      It would be interesting to see here a piece of this text intelligible. To compare, as they wrote then with what is known now. And maybe even a little surprised. After all, the documents are the same now and then in the archive!
      1. moskowit
        moskowit 13 September 2015 11: 13 New
        Go to the armored site of Vasily Chobitok, open the "library". There, this book is laid out in Dgvi format. Open, do not regret it. A historical overview of the creation of the tank and everything, everything, everything about the T-34.Танк_(книга,_1954)
  15. SeregaBoss
    SeregaBoss 13 September 2015 07: 08 New
    The Tsar Tank fascinates with its size and design, if only I could make a copy to the Kubinka for the exposition, I am sure that the attendance of the museum will increase.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 13 September 2015 07: 52 New
      And this is - YES! No money is a pity. Because the adventure of thought is there! And it is always interesting!
  16. Victor Wolz
    Victor Wolz 13 September 2015 11: 10 New
    The crisis of the Russian Empire was manifested in the fact that the military bureaucracy chose obviously unrealizable, delusional and expensive projects both in the Navy and in the construction of tanks and land weapons. Having entered into an alliance with the Entente in 1907, and for seven years, it’s really not possible to prepare for war with Germany. Having the experience of the Russo-Japanese War does not translate it. Battleships and battlecruisers were embodied by England and America, the armored cars and tanks that were supposed to be built immediately after the war were delayed by 10 years, only in 1915 when the roasted cock pecked in the ass, mortars and machine guns also began to buy in 1915, although their need for troops was evident already in 1904-05.