Coup in Donetsk. Part of 2. State Emergency Committee in Donetsk
Anyone who is not familiar with the term "Emergency Committee", I immediately advise you to refer to the sources. It will become clear why I chose this particular term.
At the time of the release of the material is not predicted (weekend after all) special changes in the situation. While parity. Strange parity, but it makes sense to sort it out while there is time.
So, despite the fact that many readers and "experts" from various media argued that this was not a coup, but local disassembly and power struggles, it was the very formulation that came from the State Duma deputies: a coup. And that says a lot.
In Donetsk, there is still a mode of "radio silence". All are silent.
Moscow is silent, not making harsh statements. Everything that is on the air for now goes as private opinions. This is understandable, since the situation requires some reflection and the presence of key players. Or a player.
Zakharchenko is silent. It is likely that he either has "health problems" or does not have a direct indication of how he should respond to this. Both options are vital, but the first is a bit more.
In general, the behavior Zakharchenko more than strange. What should the head of the republic do in this situation? By the way, if everything was decided “upstairs”, then he should have known this in advance and come forward yesterday. He did not speak. Not made to the present moment. So the option that they could not “persuade” him of a corresponding statement may well take place for himself.
The Emergency Committee in the face of Pushilin associates are also silent. By the way, the session of the DPR parliament has not begun. Which once again proves that voting at an extraordinary meeting is either a fiction, or those who do not want to vote under pressure were rushed to their holes.
All this suggests that the coup has not yet been completed, and its organizers are at a dead end. And they created this dead end with their own hands. That is, using the MGB apparatus.
The question arises: why did this happen that way?
The answer is simple. During his visit to Russia, Purgin was at a reception in the Kremlin. There is evidence that he spoke with Vyacheslav Volodin. Volodin is the one who replaced Vladislav Surkov. But this is a man from another cage. Which to "Colt" does not fit. From "TT".
After this meeting, Purgin went to visit representatives of the St. Petersburg legislative assembly. In order to learn some experience in the light of the upcoming elections in the DPR. You understand why St. Petersburg, and not Moscow, or, say, the Moscow region? So I understood.
And all the following actions of Purgin, his “breakthrough” with Aleksandrov on the territory of the DPR, are all subsequent links in the chain, which began with a meeting in Moscow.
It is obvious that the program of action proposed by Purgin received the highest support and was supported by relevant decisions and powers. In this connection, Pushilina’s program apparently lost a significant part of her influence in the Donbas.
It is quite clear that both programs in the Kremlin have their supporters. And supporters of the Pushilin program (read — people of Surkov) simply notified Pushilin about what had happened.
We had to do something.
However, Pushilin had no particular choice in instruments of influence. Hence the clowning at the border, which caused nothing but surprise and noise. It was made very clumsy. But what else could one expect?
Instead of letting in Purgin and his people and accusing them, the putschists acted very foolishly. But otherwise at that time they could not. All this time, the flywheel of the coup worked. The DPR parliament deputies phoned, the members of the MGB "took protection" of their families. By all means, a quorum was going, ready to vote for Purgin’s resignation and the appointment of Pushilin.
It was necessary to have a legitimate solution, and it was supposed to get it at any cost. Hence, Purgin’s complete isolation up to arrest, without any charges being brought. To observe the semblance of legality was vital, if only because the coup had time until Monday. And there - to put everyone in front of a fait accompli. As in the case of the referendum.
Did not work. Really failed. There was not enough time for training and personnel capable of clearly implementing such a difficult plan.
Purgin's arrest did not give anything. And I could not give anything, because a large number of people supporting his line remained at large. There were arrests in the evening of September 5, but it was impossible to catch and send everyone to the basement.
Purgin also cannot “disappear” after his arrest, because the status assigned to him does not give the coup members such an opportunity. Plus a more significant reputation in the eyes of the residents of the NPT. Of course, the Pitmen’s rallies are one thing, and the fact that shouting “Are you there?” Will certainly follow from Moscow, is quite another.
The actions of both Purgin and Zakharchenko are explicable only by the fact that they firmly know that the actions of Pushilin and the Ministry of State Security of the DPR are no more than self-activity. So, time plays against their opponents. On Monday, the parliament should open. That is, by the morning of September 7, the putschists must either have everything completed or their business will be completed. It will be seen on further action.
Generally, Pushilin is no stranger to flee and from a safe distance send statements "of his own accord." It was already once, why not repeat? Time will tell.
Some calculations on the general situation. Pushilin. Man "out of nowhere." From his biography, which everyone can read, is clear and understandable - the shopkeeper. Agree with anyone and anything. Experience is, yes even what. The fact that “Fluff” has firmly entered Akhmetov's clip, only lazy and cowardly do not speak in the DPR. Why is he in his place?
All the same "Strelkov's principle" - more like no one to work with. And then elected by the people.
In fact, over the last year of the "truce" nothing has changed. As the Akhmeta group relied on the Donbass on "contractual", "schema", organized criminal groups (all the same way as for that line of the font), so it continues. As coal was exported from Donbass at penny cost, so was exported. Or do you think that humanitarian convoy Akhmetov sends out his kindness?
And who will say how much Donetsk steel costs? At what price is it exported to the markets of Ukraine?
Here I was prompted. Up to 70 dollars per ton. And how much does this stocking cost on the international market? Yes, now the price of steel-billet on the LME has fallen dramatically due to the crisis. Up to 165 dollars per ton. But at the beginning of the year, that figure was from 415 to 530 dollars.
Coal. Same. Remember what the process was with the "Tornado" in Kiev? How were they clocked, cheerfully and with a twinkle? For what? For being robbed? Not. For killing? Again, no. If you carefully read, "Tornado" began to disperse after they detained the trains with coal. FROM DONBASS. Whose coal was it? For whom? It is clear that the “gifted” “tornadovtsam” did not care. The main thing for them was that this is separ coal. And there is nothing here to make a living by selling it to Ukraine. Miscalculated, however. And where is the Tornado now?
Yes, in general, in the same place, where those who tried to prevent the export and on the other side of the front. Who is in the grave, who is in prison.
It's simple: mega-cheap labor, lack of supervision, taxes and fees creates mega-profits. From which to refuse is unreal. You can either stand aside, pretending that you do not know, you can "fall to the source." And as part of some group work not for the benefit of theoretical Novorosii, but for real own benefit.
In fact, not having tight control from Moscow, a significant part of the MGB has turned into the same grouping. By the way, at the beginning of summer, it was at the initiative of Purgin that a partial purge of the apparatus of this organization took place (according to the facts already known at that time). Purgin's return with "powers" for many MGB leaders threatened not even a loss of space, but real deadlines. It is quite possible that in Russia.
Unfortunately, it is necessary to recognize that the coup in the DPR was carried out with the support of some circles in Moscow, who organized a leak of information and some informational cover. Their logic is simple. Put the official Kremlin in front of a fait accompli and impose on it its own way of resolving the Ukrainian crisis, namely, an agreement with Kiev (and therefore the US) and the actual accession of the DPR (LPR will follow) to Nazi Ukraine as some autonomy. And this is a very important point. In fact, an unauthorized attempt was made to change the official Kremlin line in the Ukrainian crisis.
The risk is huge. But apparently, the game is worth the candle. And Paris is the mass. And the power over the flow of Donetsk and Lugansk coal and metal in order to fight for it to the end.
Denis Pushilin either decided to take a risk, or those who give him orders did not leave him a choice. In any case, and in any case, his card is a bit. Defeats will not forgive him, but he will not see victory. Emergency Committee sample 1991 of the year.
I was reproached here for some hysteria and the absence of incontestable facts. Well, here are the facts. And there will be more facts. And some analysis of the situation.
But - about the facts.
http://dnr-sovet.su/deputaty-narodnogo-soveta-dnr-prinyali-ryad-vazhnyh-zakonov/
The site of the aforementioned parliament DNI
Yesterday this message on the site was not yet. Like none of the other posts from 4 September.
28 August supposedly passed the meeting, and 7 September this news, dated 4 September, appeared on the site. And not just the news, but that the 12 deputies have resigned.
By the way, without specifying the names. Either have not yet decided who folded, or something else.
Cool. And most importantly - as time! To whom it is believed - believe, who does not want ... In general, the question of faith, he seems to be voluntary. And everything would be fine, but after several pages, on the same site you can find this funny message:
Further on the site there is no mention that the meeting took place, although this usually happens a maximum the next day.
September 7 a message appears dated September 4 that it took place and a lot of important decisions were made there.
What is it? What does it mean? The curvature of execution is very similar to the "work" at the border checkpoint. Hands, apparently, the same. And, I note, not at all Moscow. There, thank God, they have not forgotten to such a degree.
As I understand it, 12 "retired volunteers", by happy coincidence, will be the very deputies who blocked the podium during the "extraordinary" meeting. And who rushed to the disassembly at the border. Who tried to protect Purgina.
Well, at least, the appearance of some kind of democracy has turned out.
At this moment, I think enough. The only thing that will not continue is the very detached impartiality. Standing between Purgin and Pushilin, expecting which one of them will win, does not intend to. While some of my friends have taken this stance. For one simple reason: how many and with whom I would not communicate in the DPR, not a single person said anything bad about Purgin. Unlike Dennis "Cannon".
Say, not with those communicated? Maybe. But here's the catch, all these people still want to live in New Russia. And not in the Donetsk region of Ukraine. Or DNI, federalized in Ukraine. Well, and since I support just such an option of development as those of my like-minded people, then ... I have the honor.
Продолжение следует ...
Some aspects of Donbass existence of Mr. Akhmetov will be covered in it. With facts and names.
* * *
With the end of the summer vacation period, we resume our live broadcasts on Internet radio.
And the first will be devoted to the events taking place in the DPR.
On Thursday, 10 September, Moscow will be broadcast on 19-00 with people who take certain positions in relation to everything that is happening in Ukraine and in the DPR.
These are Yuri / yurasumy and Mikhail / Mikle1, famous columnists.
The agenda will address issues of the situation in the DPR, Pushilin, Purgin, the struggle for the Russian world.
They will also answer all questions that you have during the transfer.
Questions can be asked in advance in the comments to the topic, marked "question". They will be announced first.
During the broadcast, questions in writing can be asked on Skype radio: topwar_radio.
To hear the broadcast, use the "Radio" button on the top panel.
At the time of the release of the material is not predicted (weekend after all) special changes in the situation. While parity. Strange parity, but it makes sense to sort it out while there is time.
So, despite the fact that many readers and "experts" from various media argued that this was not a coup, but local disassembly and power struggles, it was the very formulation that came from the State Duma deputies: a coup. And that says a lot.
In Donetsk, there is still a mode of "radio silence". All are silent.
Moscow is silent, not making harsh statements. Everything that is on the air for now goes as private opinions. This is understandable, since the situation requires some reflection and the presence of key players. Or a player.
Zakharchenko is silent. It is likely that he either has "health problems" or does not have a direct indication of how he should respond to this. Both options are vital, but the first is a bit more.
In general, the behavior Zakharchenko more than strange. What should the head of the republic do in this situation? By the way, if everything was decided “upstairs”, then he should have known this in advance and come forward yesterday. He did not speak. Not made to the present moment. So the option that they could not “persuade” him of a corresponding statement may well take place for himself.
The Emergency Committee in the face of Pushilin associates are also silent. By the way, the session of the DPR parliament has not begun. Which once again proves that voting at an extraordinary meeting is either a fiction, or those who do not want to vote under pressure were rushed to their holes.
All this suggests that the coup has not yet been completed, and its organizers are at a dead end. And they created this dead end with their own hands. That is, using the MGB apparatus.
The question arises: why did this happen that way?
The answer is simple. During his visit to Russia, Purgin was at a reception in the Kremlin. There is evidence that he spoke with Vyacheslav Volodin. Volodin is the one who replaced Vladislav Surkov. But this is a man from another cage. Which to "Colt" does not fit. From "TT".
After this meeting, Purgin went to visit representatives of the St. Petersburg legislative assembly. In order to learn some experience in the light of the upcoming elections in the DPR. You understand why St. Petersburg, and not Moscow, or, say, the Moscow region? So I understood.
And all the following actions of Purgin, his “breakthrough” with Aleksandrov on the territory of the DPR, are all subsequent links in the chain, which began with a meeting in Moscow.
It is obvious that the program of action proposed by Purgin received the highest support and was supported by relevant decisions and powers. In this connection, Pushilina’s program apparently lost a significant part of her influence in the Donbas.
It is quite clear that both programs in the Kremlin have their supporters. And supporters of the Pushilin program (read — people of Surkov) simply notified Pushilin about what had happened.
We had to do something.
However, Pushilin had no particular choice in instruments of influence. Hence the clowning at the border, which caused nothing but surprise and noise. It was made very clumsy. But what else could one expect?
Instead of letting in Purgin and his people and accusing them, the putschists acted very foolishly. But otherwise at that time they could not. All this time, the flywheel of the coup worked. The DPR parliament deputies phoned, the members of the MGB "took protection" of their families. By all means, a quorum was going, ready to vote for Purgin’s resignation and the appointment of Pushilin.
It was necessary to have a legitimate solution, and it was supposed to get it at any cost. Hence, Purgin’s complete isolation up to arrest, without any charges being brought. To observe the semblance of legality was vital, if only because the coup had time until Monday. And there - to put everyone in front of a fait accompli. As in the case of the referendum.
Did not work. Really failed. There was not enough time for training and personnel capable of clearly implementing such a difficult plan.
Purgin's arrest did not give anything. And I could not give anything, because a large number of people supporting his line remained at large. There were arrests in the evening of September 5, but it was impossible to catch and send everyone to the basement.
Purgin also cannot “disappear” after his arrest, because the status assigned to him does not give the coup members such an opportunity. Plus a more significant reputation in the eyes of the residents of the NPT. Of course, the Pitmen’s rallies are one thing, and the fact that shouting “Are you there?” Will certainly follow from Moscow, is quite another.
The actions of both Purgin and Zakharchenko are explicable only by the fact that they firmly know that the actions of Pushilin and the Ministry of State Security of the DPR are no more than self-activity. So, time plays against their opponents. On Monday, the parliament should open. That is, by the morning of September 7, the putschists must either have everything completed or their business will be completed. It will be seen on further action.
Generally, Pushilin is no stranger to flee and from a safe distance send statements "of his own accord." It was already once, why not repeat? Time will tell.
Some calculations on the general situation. Pushilin. Man "out of nowhere." From his biography, which everyone can read, is clear and understandable - the shopkeeper. Agree with anyone and anything. Experience is, yes even what. The fact that “Fluff” has firmly entered Akhmetov's clip, only lazy and cowardly do not speak in the DPR. Why is he in his place?
All the same "Strelkov's principle" - more like no one to work with. And then elected by the people.
In fact, over the last year of the "truce" nothing has changed. As the Akhmeta group relied on the Donbass on "contractual", "schema", organized criminal groups (all the same way as for that line of the font), so it continues. As coal was exported from Donbass at penny cost, so was exported. Or do you think that humanitarian convoy Akhmetov sends out his kindness?
And who will say how much Donetsk steel costs? At what price is it exported to the markets of Ukraine?
Here I was prompted. Up to 70 dollars per ton. And how much does this stocking cost on the international market? Yes, now the price of steel-billet on the LME has fallen dramatically due to the crisis. Up to 165 dollars per ton. But at the beginning of the year, that figure was from 415 to 530 dollars.
Coal. Same. Remember what the process was with the "Tornado" in Kiev? How were they clocked, cheerfully and with a twinkle? For what? For being robbed? Not. For killing? Again, no. If you carefully read, "Tornado" began to disperse after they detained the trains with coal. FROM DONBASS. Whose coal was it? For whom? It is clear that the “gifted” “tornadovtsam” did not care. The main thing for them was that this is separ coal. And there is nothing here to make a living by selling it to Ukraine. Miscalculated, however. And where is the Tornado now?
Yes, in general, in the same place, where those who tried to prevent the export and on the other side of the front. Who is in the grave, who is in prison.
It's simple: mega-cheap labor, lack of supervision, taxes and fees creates mega-profits. From which to refuse is unreal. You can either stand aside, pretending that you do not know, you can "fall to the source." And as part of some group work not for the benefit of theoretical Novorosii, but for real own benefit.
In fact, not having tight control from Moscow, a significant part of the MGB has turned into the same grouping. By the way, at the beginning of summer, it was at the initiative of Purgin that a partial purge of the apparatus of this organization took place (according to the facts already known at that time). Purgin's return with "powers" for many MGB leaders threatened not even a loss of space, but real deadlines. It is quite possible that in Russia.
Unfortunately, it is necessary to recognize that the coup in the DPR was carried out with the support of some circles in Moscow, who organized a leak of information and some informational cover. Their logic is simple. Put the official Kremlin in front of a fait accompli and impose on it its own way of resolving the Ukrainian crisis, namely, an agreement with Kiev (and therefore the US) and the actual accession of the DPR (LPR will follow) to Nazi Ukraine as some autonomy. And this is a very important point. In fact, an unauthorized attempt was made to change the official Kremlin line in the Ukrainian crisis.
The risk is huge. But apparently, the game is worth the candle. And Paris is the mass. And the power over the flow of Donetsk and Lugansk coal and metal in order to fight for it to the end.
Denis Pushilin either decided to take a risk, or those who give him orders did not leave him a choice. In any case, and in any case, his card is a bit. Defeats will not forgive him, but he will not see victory. Emergency Committee sample 1991 of the year.
I was reproached here for some hysteria and the absence of incontestable facts. Well, here are the facts. And there will be more facts. And some analysis of the situation.
But - about the facts.
http://dnr-sovet.su/deputaty-narodnogo-soveta-dnr-prinyali-ryad-vazhnyh-zakonov/
The site of the aforementioned parliament DNI
Yesterday this message on the site was not yet. Like none of the other posts from 4 September.
28 August supposedly passed the meeting, and 7 September this news, dated 4 September, appeared on the site. And not just the news, but that the 12 deputies have resigned.
By the way, without specifying the names. Either have not yet decided who folded, or something else.
Cool. And most importantly - as time! To whom it is believed - believe, who does not want ... In general, the question of faith, he seems to be voluntary. And everything would be fine, but after several pages, on the same site you can find this funny message:
Further on the site there is no mention that the meeting took place, although this usually happens a maximum the next day.
September 7 a message appears dated September 4 that it took place and a lot of important decisions were made there.
What is it? What does it mean? The curvature of execution is very similar to the "work" at the border checkpoint. Hands, apparently, the same. And, I note, not at all Moscow. There, thank God, they have not forgotten to such a degree.
As I understand it, 12 "retired volunteers", by happy coincidence, will be the very deputies who blocked the podium during the "extraordinary" meeting. And who rushed to the disassembly at the border. Who tried to protect Purgina.
Well, at least, the appearance of some kind of democracy has turned out.
At this moment, I think enough. The only thing that will not continue is the very detached impartiality. Standing between Purgin and Pushilin, expecting which one of them will win, does not intend to. While some of my friends have taken this stance. For one simple reason: how many and with whom I would not communicate in the DPR, not a single person said anything bad about Purgin. Unlike Dennis "Cannon".
Say, not with those communicated? Maybe. But here's the catch, all these people still want to live in New Russia. And not in the Donetsk region of Ukraine. Or DNI, federalized in Ukraine. Well, and since I support just such an option of development as those of my like-minded people, then ... I have the honor.
Продолжение следует ...
Some aspects of Donbass existence of Mr. Akhmetov will be covered in it. With facts and names.
* * *
With the end of the summer vacation period, we resume our live broadcasts on Internet radio.And the first will be devoted to the events taking place in the DPR.
On Thursday, 10 September, Moscow will be broadcast on 19-00 with people who take certain positions in relation to everything that is happening in Ukraine and in the DPR.
These are Yuri / yurasumy and Mikhail / Mikle1, famous columnists.
The agenda will address issues of the situation in the DPR, Pushilin, Purgin, the struggle for the Russian world.
They will also answer all questions that you have during the transfer.
Questions can be asked in advance in the comments to the topic, marked "question". They will be announced first.
During the broadcast, questions in writing can be asked on Skype radio: topwar_radio.
To hear the broadcast, use the "Radio" button on the top panel.
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