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DNR: Volunteer battalions will not be able to change the situation in Ukraine, as long as it is beneficial to the United States

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The deputy head of the committee of the People’s Council of the Donetsk People’s Republic for foreign policy and international relations, Vladislav Berdichevsky, said that the Ukrainian nationalist battalions did not have enough resources to influence the Ukrainian authorities, RIA reports "News" with reference to "Donetsk News Agency".




“They will not move anywhere, it’s just a drummer and empty threats. All these movements in Kiev are organized from the outside, and therefore all the actions that they arrange will not entail any coups, rallies and revolutions, ”the representative of the People’s Council of the DPR emphasized.

Berdichevsky noted that this situation will continue as long as it is beneficial to Washington.

The opinion of the deputy chairman of the committee was supported by the candidate of political sciences Kirill Cherkashin, who noted that the volunteer battalions would not be able to really put pressure on the current Ukrainian authorities.

“The recent events under the Verkhovna Rada in Kiev showed that there could be some actions from the battalion, but hardly large-scale speeches,” he stressed.

It is worth noting that earlier battalions of the OUN and "Sich" announced the collection of fighters in Kiev.
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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 7 September 2015 07: 48 New
    +10
    looking for a partner for the supply of real war drums to Ukraine ... made by the old technology of the master Stradivarius ... excellent sound .. good acoustics .. Volunteers of the National Guard are welcome ... prepayment .. no discount ..
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 7 September 2015 07: 59 New
      +7
      Quote: vorobey
      great sound .. good acoustics.

      Add +10 to tenacity, +10 to overpower.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 September 2015 08: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Add +10 to tenacity, +10 to overpower.


        Come to me as a marketer ... and
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 7 September 2015 08: 03 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          Come to me as a marketer ...

          Wow, Sanya, so many ideas. yes
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 7 September 2015 08: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: vorobey
            I am looking for a partner to supply real combat drums

            Tyu, battle drums are already the last century. Nowadays the air filtration systems are in fashion, all-round cameras and battle dressing rooms, based on Kurganets-25. wink
            There immediately, + 50 to invulnerability, + 50 to comfort.laughing
            According to Aleksey Kozlov, Chief Designer of SKB Mashinostroyenia, the air filtration system is able to function in the conditions of chemical, bacteriological and radiation contamination, supplying purified air to workplaces. The hatch in the stern of the BMP is equipped with a folding toilet seat, and eight video cameras placed on the armor provide the crew with an overview of all approaches to the car.
            See completely: http://politrussia.com/news/perspektivnuyu-bmp-kurganets-25-964/

            1. vorobey
              vorobey 7 September 2015 08: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: Sid.74
              Thu, war drums last century


              You’re an impatient to Zheka ... already a competing company has drawn ... train my move ...
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 September 2015 08: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey

          Come to me as a marketer ... and

          I understand that I'm fired?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 September 2015 08: 41 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I understand that I'm fired?


            Negotiations with the IG who failed ... if they took our party of drums they wouldn’t run now with cries The Russians are coming ..

            read .. Add +10 to tenacity, +10 to overpower.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 September 2015 08: 48 New
              +3
              Quote: vorobey
              Negotiations with the IG who failed.

              So you threw them yourself, grandmother took allah akbar. They have already cut out half the Middle East in search of you. Return the loot to the boys and it will end.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 7 September 2015 08: 50 New
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Return the loot to the boys and it's over.


                no money ... you didn’t fall on the main page in classmates ... laughing
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 September 2015 09: 17 New
      +3
      On Shuster Live on September 4, dedicated to the events of August 31 in Kuev, Lyashko accused Poroshenko of all troubles and insisted on his impeachment. Tough criticism of “foreigners” in the government was also voiced. In the DPR, the "Tsar" was removed from office, but left in the deputies. Denis Pushilin was appointed in his place.
    3. Slobber
      Slobber 7 September 2015 09: 48 New
      +1
      Stradivarius did not make drums, but the Papuans still masteryat.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 September 2015 10: 17 New
        +4
        Quote: razgildyay
        Stradivarius did not make drums


        he made violins for suckers .. and for real boys - drums ..
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 7 September 2015 10: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          he did violins for suckers ..

          The first time I regretted that not a sucker sad
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 September 2015 10: 57 New
            +2
            Quote: Ruslan67
            Quote: vorobey
            he did violins for suckers ..

            The first time I regretted that not a sucker sad


            do you want a drink? repeat
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 7 September 2015 10: 59 New
              +2
              I already have a shovel request
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 7 September 2015 11: 42 New
                +3
                Quote: Ruslan67
                I already have a shovel


                your shovels have already burned four abrams ... you share what you are doing the cuttings from ..
  2. evil partisan
    evil partisan 7 September 2015 07: 49 New
    +2
    These dives all need to be attached for life. Least. Volunteers, la ...
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 7 September 2015 08: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: wicked partisan
      These dives all need to be attached for life.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 September 2015 07: 58 New
    +4
    Vladislav Berdichevsky said that the Ukrainian nationalist battalions did not have enough resources to influence the Ukrainian authorities

    And it seems to me that the so-called There are more "volunteer" battalions sponsored by oligarchs than the APU. Their weapons, equipment and equipment, unlike the APU, are modern, they have arrogance and aplomb above the roof, they feed well. Therefore, there is a moot point.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 7 September 2015 08: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And it seems to me that the so-called There are more "volunteer" battalions sponsored by oligarchs than the APU. Their weapons, equipment and equipment, unlike the APU, are modern, they have arrogance and aplomb above the roof, they feed well. Therefore, there is a moot point.


      That's about the technique of law enforcement and other "baht", the conversation should be separate ...

      Fortunately for us, and ironically for Poroshenko (there are such conflicts), they do not have heavy weapons, or there is a limited number of them ...

      In fact, these "bats", the junta uses as punitive and light assault units, depending on the situation, strengthening them with the equipment and weapons of the Armed Forces and the National Guard ...

      There is a whole series of evidence when the pravoseki and others, receiving a "lyuley", desperately and in vain prayed for the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to "support with fire", "send equipment", etc.

      And about the "aplomb" and everything else, you're right. But on one show off, you won’t get much.

      Another conversation, IF the "baht" will be able to access weapons ... Then another conversation.

      But this is from the realm: “If only if only.”
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 7 September 2015 08: 41 New
        +1
        I partially agree with you. But they also have artillery systems, armored personnel carriers and even tanks. But the state of this technology (I'm not even talking about small arms and equipment) is better than that of the APU. And as for access to weapons, they have this access, and often by the Ukrainian Defense Ministry.
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 7 September 2015 08: 59 New
          0
          Quote: rotmistr60
          . And as for access to weapons, they have this access, and often by the Ukrainian Defense Ministry.

          Of course, the "Iraqi option" is not excluded, when ISIS received weapons during the flight of government troops ...
          But then again, for the "consolidation" of law-breakers (all in one pile, because they are one-piece), it takes time and effort ... What we curators are doing in this direction, we do not know request
          1. rotmistr60
            rotmistr60 7 September 2015 09: 38 New
            0
            I meant that they have access (given the branching of law enforcement agencies) to the warehouses of the APU as well.
            1. Tanais
              Tanais 7 September 2015 09: 43 New
              0
              Quote: rotmistr60
              I meant that they have access (given the branching of law enforcement agencies) to the warehouses of the APU as well.


              Honestly, I don’t even know what to answer ... I just don’t know how much the mess got into this area of ​​the APU ...
    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 7 September 2015 12: 46 New
      0
      I agree. And taking into account the fact that they are generally not tied to the "front line", unlike the VSU, they can quite afford to take "stations, phone, telegraph" in Kiev, and of the Supreme Council along the way.
  4. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 7 September 2015 08: 00 New
    0
    There is no order from the State Department - Offal suits them.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 September 2015 08: 04 New
    0
    It was clear that there would be no more Maidan. What Maidan, when so many military weapons on hand. Only one grenade was thrown at the security forces, and if seriously thrown grenades? These battalions are like paper tigers, either scary or not ... IMHO, I would be afraid. They can put so much blood right in the center.
  6. 79807420129
    79807420129 7 September 2015 08: 05 New
    +8
    It’s been clear to everyone for a long time that with what foot the Amer ambassador in the ruin will rise and the course of events will be in the ruin, he will say jump into the well and kakely will jump in slender columns, he will say sleep. One word is a puppet.
    1. Tanais
      Tanais 7 September 2015 08: 36 New
      0
      Quote: 79807420129
      It’s been clear to everyone for a long time that with what foot the Amer ambassador in the ruin will rise and the course of events will be in the ruin, he will say jump into the well and kakely will jump in slender columns, he will say sleep. One word is a puppet.


      So far, unfortunately, we see that the US is quite strictly keeping its line, without "shorking" around ...

      This enviable rigidity and straightforwardness, to some extent would be adopted by the responsible comrades in Moscow, the Russian ambassador in Kiev, although what ... what ambassador he is ...
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 7 September 2015 10: 25 New
        +1
        Quote: Tanais
        ... what ambassador he is ...


        He is an ambassador and an ambassador, and a sol-sol, and an ambassador ... (I'm talking about Zurabov). bully
  7. morpogr
    morpogr 7 September 2015 08: 12 New
    0
    Probably some kind of script is being prepared for the disposal of these battalions, and most likely the script is written in Washington to kill two birds with one stone. The first to get rid of the Natsiks and cleanse their lackey Poroshenko, the second to set them on Novorossia to disrupt Minsk
  8. roskot
    roskot 7 September 2015 08: 12 New
    0
    The party goes into time trouble. The bloody performance continues.
  9. Dezinto
    Dezinto 7 September 2015 08: 16 New
    +2
    Ukrainian - INDEPENDENCE - This is something we do not understand!

    After all, this is the great Ukrainian INDEPENDENCE!









    1. Lelek
      Lelek 7 September 2015 10: 30 New
      0
      Quote: DEZINTO
      This is something we do not understand!


      Well, and what is incomprehensible in this?
  10. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 7 September 2015 08: 19 New
    +1
    Endless circle
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 7 September 2015 08: 29 New
      0
      And the impostors are naked !!!
  11. Wolka
    Wolka 7 September 2015 08: 20 New
    +1
    still stupid meat ...
  12. loginovich
    loginovich 7 September 2015 08: 32 New
    0
    Quote: rotmistr60
    Vladislav Berdichevsky said that the Ukrainian nationalist battalions did not have enough resources to influence the Ukrainian authorities

    And it seems to me that the so-called There are more "volunteer" battalions sponsored by oligarchs than the APU. Their weapons, equipment and equipment, unlike the APU, are modern, they have arrogance and aplomb above the roof, they feed well. Therefore, there is a moot point.


    The battalions are scattered and compete with each other. If the sponsors are the oligarchs to unite, then there will not be enough space. Winter will appear in the 14th kindergarten, but nothing like this will happen without the State Department’s team.
  13. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 7 September 2015 09: 06 New
    +2
    With all Ukrainian popular unrest, indignation, acts of terrorism, banditry, etc. there is no purposeful popular movement in general. All that is there today is a population agitated by various anti-people and anti-state forces:
    1) The US and the EU are destabilizing the country in order to achieve their business interests, for starters, fueling dollars that threw off Yanukovych, now trying to put the country on a credit needle.
    It should be understood that they do not bear any real costs. The dollar is just a piece of paper, not really secured by anything, with uncontrolled emission, based on a mirage of its solvency. In fact, the dollar is crowding out the national currency from the economy, causing inflation and connecting multiple speculators.
    2) The oligarchs take advantage of the chaos moment for the redistribution of the market, being welded to the noise. In fact, these are mini-states with their pieces of economy and their armies. Poroshenko’s statements about the unitarity and unity of the country are also a mirage; in reality, it impedes streamlining the situation, and there is no longer a single country — it is divided by oligarchs.
    3) The national radical movement-Bandera, who seek to come to power, but actually used and led by oligarchs who have no chance of getting it. They nightmare the population, acting in their own interests, committing countless crimes against individual citizens, but who have no chance of either coming to power or getting any significant piece of the economy. They do not understand that they have one option, those who used them will surely get rid of them. So it was in the Second World War, when the Nazis used them and sent them to concentration camps, but for the population they are enemies.
    4) Fooled young people, who believe that joining the EU will provide them with free luxury, and taxiing into the market, as soon as they realize that there will be no freebies. The group is the main force used to support the existing chaos.
    5) The population of the country is ordinary people who want stability, work, salaries and who are tired of this mess.
    Here is such a set of forces in the Ukrainian chaos. Nationalist movements will not be allowed to come to power, they have already been used and will get rid of them. But if you get rid of external interference and oligarchy, then these creatures will not allow the people of Ukraine to live, i.e. what will happen after the war: attacks and brutal killings of the population.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 7 September 2015 10: 39 New
      0
      Quote: olimpiada15
      olimpiada


      According to surveys of EU agencies in former Ukraine, 52% of the population support the existing order, categorically against 28%, and the remaining 20% ​​- by the way .... Guess from 2 times who is satisfied with this. fool
  14. Polite Moose
    Polite Moose 7 September 2015 09: 16 New
    +2
    "The opinion of the deputy chairman of the committee was supported by the candidate of political sciences Kirill Cherkashin, who noted that the volunteer battalions could not really put pressure on the current Ukrainian authorities."

    And I think that really pushing the current Ukrainian authorities is very simple. The soldiers of these battalions need to take 2-3 BC and seep into Kiev. Surround BP, having previously dispersed the newly made law enforcement officers, bring all deputies to the facade of the building, headed by the Cabinet and the President, and REALLY PUSH (downhill).
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 September 2015 10: 30 New
    0
    Until mortars are brought to the Rada, nothing from the fascists will come of the Dobrobats.
  16. atamankko
    atamankko 7 September 2015 10: 57 New
    0
    Not volunteer battalions,
    and armed bandits.