Tricky comments. Poroshenko will return the Crimea and the Donbass ...

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Poroshenko on Saturday evening, in an interview with Ukrainian TV channels, voiced three scenarios for the development of events in Ukraine, one of which he called radical: he envisages an offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a military liberation of the territory and a march on Moscow.



Apparently, again without snacks and in quantities incompatible with reasonable life activity.

Pyotr Lekseich often puts it in, we are used to it. But this, speaking in diplomatic language, is of concern.

"There are three options, three scenarios for the development of events. The first scenario is radical: an offensive by the armed forces, a military liberation of the territory and a march on Moscow ..."

We in Russia in such cases say: "It is necessary to eat." For a start, reach Donetsk or Lugansk, Mr. President. Ik!

Undoubtedly, the Ukrainian army over the past year has passed some evolutionary path. That is, from an oak tree, in principle, they have already peeled off, but to dig a new ukromore is still not suitable. What kind of Moscow are we talking about? It is necessary to set either real goals or a smaller vessel. They say it helps.

"Second position: to build a wall, give a part of the territory - we will live without Donbass".

And without a wall in any way? No, really? Is the wall a symbol of greatness and square now? We will not dig the sea, so at least we will build a wall ... Weeping Great Ukrainian Wall. And we will cry for a long time, because all the remnants of undeveloped loans will go to her.

"But I, as president of Ukraine, will not trade. And this, if you like, can only be with another president. I will not even give anyone a piece of Ukrainian land."

Yeah ... Taki apologize, and agricultural holdings from Israel, Germany and Finland bought land from anyone? I am talking about the Kherson region. Well, in principle, there really is, and does not smell pieces. Full hectares. Hundred.

Apparently, delirium trems. Apparently, there are two presidents. One does not give a piece, and the second hectares distributes. It happens.

"I will fight, do everything possible to return every land - and the annexed Crimea, and the occupied territories of Donbass."

And we will fight, Peter Alekseevich, naturally, to the last drop. It is clear that no blood. It is to blame, I do not know what you use there, but it is obvious that the thing is crammed. Now I break my head, what is the reason for such a high flight of thought. I would not refuse to "soar".

"There is a way to ensure the restoration of Ukrainian sovereignty, the Ukrainian authorities in these territories, this path is called the Minsk agreements. In order to very simply reveal them - this is a cease-fire, the withdrawal of heavy equipment, the release of the hostages, including our heroes Oleg Sentsov, Nadezhda Savchenko ..., the involvement of the OSCE in order for them to monitor the implementation of the Minsk agreements, these are programs of humanitarian, cultural, social development and infrastructure, this is the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian territory and the restoration of Ukrainian control over the uncontrolled section of the Russian-Ukrainian border. "

So what's stopping you? They didn’t stop the fire, didn’t take the equipment, don’t let the OSCE work. Or is it all, in your opinion, should Russia also do? This is the Russian army, which occupied the Donbass? So find it first is necessary. And not at the bottom of the vessel above, but in the fields of Donbass. Weak?

"If fake elections are held, if the cease-fire is disrupted and a large-scale offensive is organized ... this will mean that Russia has abandoned the obligations that it assumed by putting the Russian president’s signature under the Minsk process."

Well, he took and spoiled everything. Fake elections - this is how Rada chose? By the principle of "pay and fly?", Or something else? Or as in Kharkov, where a really strong opposition, even by a court decision, is not registered for an election?

Who can disrupt the cease-fire if the APU cannot calm down for a single day? And who will organize a large-scale offensive? Mini-army LDNR?

The impression was that Mr. President was talking about Ukraine. That's when it turns logical.

If Ukraine conducts fake elections (and judging by the incoming information, it will hold with an extraordinary scale), if Ukraine frustrates the cease-fire (and it has not yet begun to observe it), if Ukraine starts a large-scale offensive (and rumors, again, have been going for a month) then yes, Putin put his signature in vain for the Minsk agreements.

But we all know that and so. Ik!
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  1. +37
    7 September 2015 06: 11
    Poroshenko will return the Crimea and the Donbass ...
    So Crimea has already returned! And Donbass is practically the same. request
    1. +10
      7 September 2015 10: 56
      No, it’s necessary .. like the President, like a big one (35 million after all), like a country (for now), is simply a suicidal heresy. Campaign to Moscow what apparently he thinks that the people of Ukraine really want it. So the results of the burials, it seems, of the last six in a year, do not allow making such conclusions. There will probably be several thousand of the volunteers who will rush across the border. But firstly, it will be close and looks more like a raid, and it will end very quickly in Kiev - the arrival of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation and the National General Staff for interrogation at the Prosecutor General's Office of Ukraine, accompanied by a "modest" bodyguard soldier
      1. +5
        7 September 2015 11: 41
        Quote: marlin1203
        kind of president, kind of big

        He’s just a hired artist who says what they write to him. Everything and nothing else. He’s paid well for this, during his presidency of the so-called, he became almost 2 times richer. But he does not understand that when he doesn’t need him, they can let him go. in consumption. And maybe he understands, therefore, he drinks like a gray gelding. Unfortunately, to date, not a single completely independent head of state has remained in the world.
      2. +6
        7 September 2015 15: 44
        Quote: marlin1203
        The president, like a big one (35 million after all), like a country (for now), is simply suicidal heresy.

        A little about an adequate assessment of what is happening ....
      3. +4
        7 September 2015 16: 30
        Quote: marlin1203
        The president, like a big one (35 million after all), like a country (for now), is simply suicidal heresy. Campaign to Moscow what

        You do not know Ukrainian presidents well wink You just don't know how to "cook" them laughing
        The campaign to Moscow of the presidents of Hoh.land now traditionally ends with a conference in Rostov. But how could it be supposed that Petya Zapoyny would get there so soon what
      4. 0
        7 September 2015 20: 54
        You did not understand anything. Pan Svin imagines himself to be a sort of Moses, deciding to collect the remnants of the ukronarod and march on Moscow to surrender. Let Moscow feed them "for free" again. And his business is in Russia.
    2. 0
      8 September 2015 14: 12
      May he return all the Russian lands.
  2. +35
    7 September 2015 06: 14
    I remembered something.
    The Poles sometimes soberly look at what is happening:
    1. +5
      7 September 2015 17: 10
      We (for the most part) are behind!
  3. +14
    7 September 2015 06: 36
    This is not even funny. Parash-enko began to hallucinate in reality, in his sick imagination he had almost captured Moscow.
    A typical example of sluggish schizophrenia.
    1. +6
      7 September 2015 07: 16
      ... and what remains for him is ..... time is coming to an end .....
      1. +2
        7 September 2015 10: 18
        Roman is right, with Peter Lekseich a bottle is coming to an end !!!! And you are about time :)
  4. +13
    7 September 2015 06: 36
    He has two types of ear noodles — he hangs one for foreign creditors and the other for his own population. hi
    Sometimes it gets confused lol
  5. +12
    7 September 2015 06: 48
    It seems that Poroshenko decided to return to Russia not only Novorossiya, but also the whole of Eastern Ukraine. So I understood his drunken nonsense by the American media.
  6. +4
    7 September 2015 06: 54
    Poroshenko on Saturday evening, in an interview with Ukrainian TV channels, voiced three scenarios for the development of events in Ukraine, one of which he called radical, it provides for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, "the military liberation of the territory and the march on Moscow.
    Let me go, miraculous grass ... filled with Kozodryshchensk, you got to know you panim ...
  7. +2
    7 September 2015 06: 56
    I won’t give even a piece of Ukrainian land to anyone

    I didn't just give it away, but passed it. It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off. And also the "great Ukrainian" is working on the development of Plan "B", which is in the strictest secrecy and is not known to anyone except Poroshenko.
    1. 0
      7 September 2015 13: 31
      and no one except Poroshenko is known. ,,
      Yes, and he (the plan) is not known to him. And yet I wanted to clarify the, “fighting” speech of Petruha. In an interview, he said that he was being offered a “trip to Moscow,”
  8. +13
    7 September 2015 06: 59
    The first scenario is radical: the offensive of the armed forces, the military liberation of the territory and the campaign against Moscow ... but for this we must already be punished. This is a direct threat of war, and here we have to decide either according to the department of Lavrov or the department of comrade Shoigu. Although, most likely, the Ministry of Health should say its weighty word, in the person of the Institute. Kashchenko.
    1. +3
      7 September 2015 07: 51
      Quote: lwxx
      This is a direct threat of war.
      Tooting.
    2. 0
      7 September 2015 11: 51
      Quote: lwxx
      here our need to decide

      call him "partner" or "colleague"?
      1. 0
        7 September 2015 17: 19
        Quote: atos_kin
        call him "partner" or "colleague"?
        Obama's passive partner.
  9. +3
    7 September 2015 07: 00
    "If fake elections are held, if the cease-fire is disrupted and a large-scale offensive is organized ... this will mean that Russia has abandoned the obligations that it assumed by putting the Russian president’s signature under the Minsk process."

    We must offer this dunce to introduce one more point.
    "If winter comes."
    To be sure.

    And generally speaking.
    Honestly, reading this nonsense, from an absurd drunk is simply sickening.
    There is a strong desire to try to find those with whom you can conduct a dialogue.
    Then the desire disappears.
    There are no candidates.
  10. +1
    7 September 2015 07: 22
    That is why the expression in the highly respected Inquisition - ".... like mad dogs!" Here is such a shmo (poz) is that fuse, because of which a fire can arise ...
  11. +1
    7 September 2015 07: 23
    God, the house was gone. What will happen to steam heating?
  12. +2
    7 September 2015 07: 34
    Petr Lekseich often brings ...
    Probably more correct - Pyotr Lakeyicha!
  13. +7
    7 September 2015 07: 51
    "... it provides for the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the military liberation of the territory and the march on Moscow ..."
    even though Moscow is 700 miles south of us, in the morning, right in the morning, he began to dig a full-profile trench and a bomb shelter in the garden, the family was crying.
    Previously, pan Poroshenko wore a chevron with dill, it is necessary to change to hemp, it is painfully picky, they see they are being taken from Yemen.
  14. +2
    7 September 2015 07: 53
    I am extremely puzzled by the Kremlin’s position ... Last year, the Rostov Region was fired upon, a civilian was killed, military personnel were killed - it’s silent ..
    He calls Russia the enemy and publicly voices plans for aggression - ours are silent again.
    Putin "Leopold the cat" or what ?! How long will they wipe their feet about Russia and he will play a peaceful preza?
    1. +3
      7 September 2015 10: 12
      Who is it that you’ll wipe your feet about Russia ??? they wiped it in the 90s, and now they’re breaking their foreheads about Russia ...
      You obviously don’t see the obvious, politics is a very delicate thing, and you’re ready to wave your saber, take your time, we'll have time ...
    2. +1
      8 September 2015 07: 35
      Have you read the novel about Elephant and Pug? lol
  15. 0
    7 September 2015 07: 56
    Quote: ImPerts
    I remembered something.
    The Poles sometimes soberly look at what is happening:

    Sobriety does not smell here. It smells of impudent thirst for profit. What a fright suddenly Poles will fall Lviv?

    The whole territory of Ukraine is gradually being transformed either into a state loyal to Russia, many factors are pushing for it, among which economic feasibility is especially strong, or in what these lands were: regions of the European part of Russia.

    Therefore, no land will break off the Poles, let the liposuction machines buy in bulk.
    1. +11
      7 September 2015 08: 18
      Quote: Mentat
      What a fright suddenly Poles will fall Lviv?

      Why with fright? Have you signed the association? On January 1, the first point will also come into force - the return of property to the former owners and their heirs. otherwise Poland would not have fought so hard for the association of Ukraine. And there others will catch up ... Hungarians, Romanians. Poles think that Ukraine will follow the laws in a "civilized" manner just like that. Ha ha ha! Only now, if all the pain will pass with the Hungarians no less peacefully, then the Bandera will grapple with the Poles for sure. Then there will be "the second act of the Merleson Ballet"
  16. +2
    7 September 2015 08: 02
    Why is there still no criminal case against Mr. SK?
  17. +17
    7 September 2015 08: 02
    The brow has a rich inner world wassat
    1. 0
      7 September 2015 21: 08
      Pine - said Poroshenko
  18. +6
    7 September 2015 08: 26
    "There are three options, three scenarios for the development of events. The first scenario is radical: an offensive by the armed forces, a military liberation of the territory and a march on Moscow ..."

    Well, let's conquer Moscow, and then what will change? Will you become rich and happy?
    So it was already, Ukrainians Khrushchev, Brezhnev, and Gorbachev, half Ukrainian, ruled the USSR and this led to the impoverishment and collapse of the USSR. Abandoned rich Russia, wanted to build a separate state, but it doesn’t work out. That Crimea and Donbas realized that only with Russia together we are a real country.
  19. 0
    7 September 2015 08: 28
    Parash-enko will end badly ... delirium tremens is waiting for him
    1. +2
      7 September 2015 09: 19
      The chamber in Kashchenko is already reserved for him)
  20. +14
    7 September 2015 08: 34
    Well, right Che-Bukhara local bottling !!! laughing
    1. 0
      7 September 2015 21: 09
      Petruccio, it's time to think about which country you will run to, and not develop strategies.
  21. 0
    7 September 2015 09: 05
    A trip to Moscow will be the last minutes of your worthless life.
  22. +3
    7 September 2015 09: 37
    He threatened Petyun coolly. My cat even giggled and sharpened its claws. Kotyara has already collected the bag as an alarming suitcase and is going to go to tear this bukharik.
  23. 0
    7 September 2015 09: 42
    You’re stuck, Petro, and you won’t get out of your shit.
  24. +2
    7 September 2015 10: 08
    All this, of course, is ridiculous and stupid to disgrace - Poroshenko is a complete zero in itself, but we must not forget who broadcasts his language. Once there were such speeches, wait for nasty things from partners from behind the hill
  25. +1
    7 September 2015 10: 52
    Poroshenko more and more resembles Yeltsin in his worst years.
  26. 0
    7 September 2015 11: 16
    it the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from the Ukrainian territory and the restoration of Ukrainian control over an uncontrolled section of the Russian-Ukrainian border. "



    Where ukrovska was going to withdraw something from the Ukrainian territory ??? soldier
  27. 0
    7 September 2015 11: 57
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: Mentat
    What a fright suddenly Poles will fall Lviv?

    Why with fright? Have you signed the association? On January 1, the first point will also come into force - the return of property to the former owners and their heirs. otherwise Poland would not have fought so hard for the association of Ukraine. And there others will catch up ... Hungarians, Romanians. Poles think that Ukraine will follow the laws in a "civilized" manner just like that. Ha ha ha! Only now, if all the pain will pass with the Hungarians no less peacefully, then the Bandera will grapple with the Poles for sure. Then there will be "the second act of the Merleson Ballet"

    These are actually our territories. It’s not worth giving out to some Poles. Russia, however strange it may seem to you, stands for the territorial integrity of Ukraine. This is actually natural. It is now about who will absorb Ukraine, because it is clear that this territory was deprived of independence. Do not forget that this is a land watered with Russian blood. Russia is not going to give it to anyone, either in parts or in full.
  28. +2
    7 September 2015 12: 03
    "and a trip to Moscow ..."...

    The strange silence of the State Department ...

    When 08.08.08 half of the states were convulsed by the fact that Russia attacked Georgia, that was normal ...

    And here Poroshenko promises a trip to Moscow ... I just forgot what state it is in, and whether it is in the states next to Kiev and Odessa ... But the fact is that not only Georgia, but Moscow is in the USA !!!

    So, Petsya, be careful in your statements, especially from a hangover ... Otherwise, the black dad will misunderstand and carve ...
    1. +1
      7 September 2015 16: 35
      Nooooo-not carve out in any other way - Tolerasta tea))))
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  29. +1
    7 September 2015 12: 09
    The main thing is that the navel would not untie from the strain ...
  30. +1
    7 September 2015 12: 46
    Thanks to the author for the article.
    Well reads, thinks even better.
    And the one that is offal, so it will burn from a potion campaign.
    To know what kind of woman Yaga is preparing this swill for him, eating - like a bull slop! So he carries it, then to the Crimea, then to Moscow. laughing
  31. 0
    7 September 2015 12: 49
    He speaks to himself for life.
  32. +4
    7 September 2015 13: 22
    Yeah, trains to Moscow every day "landing" are taken, to Leningradka or to the capital's construction sites ... "invader" yopt
  33. +2
    7 September 2015 14: 20
    Why does he need Moscow and Russia? What will he do with us? Will sell in parts, get drunk with happiness and die? A traveler, damn it, Napoleon would have dealt with his country.
  34. 0
    7 September 2015 16: 33
    he will return everything .......... everything - everything - but it’s not even funny anymore ........ give a campaign to Moscow Petyunya — the strongest damn army of geyrops and a powerful fleet!
    1. 0
      7 September 2015 21: 10
      Yes, Petrusha, you are not the first to come to Moscow! And where are all these walkers now? It’s better to kill yourself on the wall, it won’t hurt so much!
  35. +1
    7 September 2015 17: 17
    Napoleon was found. He will go to Moscow. Let him start by going to a narcologist ...
  36. 0
    7 September 2015 18: 51
    Another walker to Moscow turned up ...
  37. 0
    7 September 2015 19: 22
    "Ai Pug! Know she is strong, barks at the ELEPHANT," - Parashkin delirium is no longer treated.
  38. +1
    7 September 2015 20: 02
    Interestingly Poroshko raves according to the script, or got used to the role and improvises.
  39. 0
    7 September 2015 20: 43
    Quote: marlin1203
    No, it’s necessary .. like the President, like a big one (35 million after all), like a country (for now), is simply a suicidal heresy.

    So he is not a president at all, but an ordinary usurper under the roof of the CIA and the State Department of the SGA, and they have such "presidents" for all countries of the world prepared innumerable because there are enough power-hungry fools everywhere, which our "sworn partners" use. They can change such presidents for dill at least every week! Now Porosenko is drunk to the point of complete insanity, you look at the other pig they will change, the main thing is to be able to cheerfully shout "Ukraine lard and vodka"!
    And the people who have lost their minds and can not be. another "president", remember our unforgettable EBN-a and what we were at that time - everyone wanted on the "Volga" and just that! It's good that at least VVP and his comrades drove him from the throne, and not Birch with his gang! hi
  40. 0
    8 September 2015 07: 44
    In general, Petya says something, let him go to Moscow, we must immediately surrender: we will again become Kievan Rus, well, and the rest will already be an internal affair of Russia, who is there and whom :)
  41. 0
    8 September 2015 16: 09
    Quote: Seryoga DV
    In general, Petya says something, let him go to Moscow, we must immediately surrender: we will again become Kievan Rus, well, and the rest will already be an internal affair of Russia, who is there and whom :)

    The main thing is to get there, otherwise you’ll get lost somewhere along the way ... Our people are kind, sympathetic ...
  42. 0
    8 September 2015 17: 14
    Campaign to Moscow - Drang nach Moskau performed by Poroshenko ...
    now, probably, the late Napoleon Bonaparte is having fun - he also went to Moscow, and even came and stayed ... more fun, however, he didn’t get away with it ... so Napoleon was a real military commander - captain, then the general and then the emperor ... and this is a strategist, damn it, homegrown ... a graveyard .....
  43. 0
    30 September 2015 11: 41
    only two things are endless: the universe and human stupidity. Albert Einstein