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The coup in the DNI: who should congratulate? Part of 1

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The coup in the DNI: who should congratulate? Part of 1The fact that a coup occurred in the DPR, which will definitely change the subsequent political course of the unrecognized republic, is indisputable.


Denial Pushilin’s removal of Andrei Purgin from his post as Chairman of the People’s Council of the DPR for “non-political” motives. With the wording "for an attempt to disrupt the next meeting of the Council." And now Pushilin appointed. Council Chair.

Let's leave aside how being in Russia, Purgin was going to disrupt this meeting. Let it remain on Pushilin's conscience.

Let us leave aside the fact that "appointed" or "elected" Pushilin was by a majority vote at an extraordinary meeting. While some of the deputies tried to solve the problem on the spot with the detention of Purgin and Aleksandrov by the security forces.

The threat of interception of power by the parliamentary apparatus of the Donetsk People's Republic led to a change in the leadership of the People’s Assembly, some experts say. Their opinion has already been published by some media. I will not dispute this opinion, everything is clear and understandable here. Of course, the DPR parliament has its own troops, which can help the parliament to “seize” power. Of course, the commanders of units and divisions swore allegiance to parliament and are not able to separate black from white. The obvious stupidity of all such statements is so noticeable that there is no desire to discuss it.

Let's take a closer look with the good old principle "Qui bono". The principle is not one hundred years old, so it is fully applicable, for it was invented by the Romans, who understood the laws and principles.

So, who benefits, and, most importantly, what is beneficial in the essence of this coup.

The events themselves, one way or another connected with this coup, are also quite strange. The chronology is a difficultly disputed thing, so let's just look at the chain of events.

Pushilin explained the incident by the fact that allegedly Purgin fell under the influence of Aleksey Aleksandrov, who had previously made “a series of political statements that are contrary to the politics of the whole state” (quote from the Donetsk Agency News) Pushilin specified that Purgin’s resignation was related to his attempt to disrupt the parliamentary meeting.

According to eyewitnesses, on the night of 4 on 5 of September in Donetsk additional posts were put up in several places, a cordon appeared near the building of the DPR parliament. “They open rooms in the Hotel Central.” MGB is looking for Aleksandrov (senior) and Purgin's entourage, put up a post at Purgin's house.

Strange. Disrupting the meeting, having left for the previously announced meetings in St. Petersburg, what was announced and even scheduled a press conference at which Purgin had to tell the media about the results of this meeting? Where is the logic?

September 4 Andrey Purgin together with Aleksey Georgievich Alexandrov Sr. (head of the staff of the People's Council) and Alexei Alekseevich Alexandrov Jr. (head of the Secretariat of the People's Council) returned to Donetsk from a working trip to St. Petersburg. There they met with the deputies of the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly and with representatives of public organizations. At the checkpoint "Uspensky" (on the border between the DPR and the Russian Federation) they were detained: during the daytime information appeared in various media that Purgin was not allowed to pass through the border for several hours.

By the way, Purgin was briefed on 18.30, where, as expected, he had to tell about the results of the trip.

The Ministry of State Security of the Donetsk People’s Republic issued a statement that the main purpose of the detention at the border was not Purgin, but the head of the staff of the People’s Council of the DPR, Alexey Georgievich Alexandrov. It was he who was denied entry to the DPR in connection with his destructive activities, “which posed a threat to the national security of the republic”: Alexandrov was engaged in his own political PR, presenting a personal opinion for the position of NA deputies. According to the MGB, Purgin, using parliamentary immunity, along with several other people's deputies "tried to help Alexandrov cross the border and hide him from the organs of justice."

And they have an interesting case in the DNI delivered. New page in stories diplomatic jurisprudence. To take and not to let a person back into the country is something new. Exposing the country, motivating all this with a "destructive activity" is understandable. But not to let it go back when a person left for official or personal need ... Even in Ukraine, they didn’t go down. Arrest at the entrance is a normal practice. But closing in is something new.

Later, information appears about the arrest of Purgin and Aleksandrov Jr., and also about the fact that Aleksandrov Sr. was wanted. Purgin was detained already at the entrance to Donetsk, on the Makeevskaya highway, then he was taken to the MGB building. Purgin's wife, Elena, was also detained.

In 21.00, an extraordinary meeting of the People’s Council was urgently convened in the republic. Journalists were not allowed on him, the session was closed. As a result, the National Assembly voted for the appointment of Denis Pushilin and. Chairman of the People’s Council of the DPR, instead of Andrei Purgin, who was removed from this post. Alexey Alexandrov was also removed from his post.

Interestingly, and voted as in August last year, under the machines, or how?

Alexander Zhuchkovsky, a volunteer, coordinator of non-humanitarian aid to the Donbas and just a man, whose opinion can be trusted, said the following:

“I have already managed to talk about what happened with a number of commanders and officials - the attitude to what is happening in people is sharply negative. Pushilin has a very low trust rating among the population of the republic and there is no authority in the army. On the contrary, Andrei Purgin enjoys sufficient respect and authority both among the citizens and among the militias. It’s still too early to sum up, but I want to say that in the DPR, there is not a "banal power struggle", as some write, but the imposition of a completely specific course of development and certain people who are called upon to ensure the implementation of this course. The fact that such a course and the people who carry it out is completely alien to the population and militia of the republics, the organizers of this process do not care. In politics and business there is no place for national interests and, all the more, for some "ideals". ”

On 17.00 5 September Purgin remained in custody and did not get in touch with his secretary. According to the information available to Purgin’s secretary, his wife, Elena, is next to him. According to unconfirmed reports, Pugin had a meeting with the head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko, last night. The whereabouts of Aleksandrov Senior is still unknown.


Purgin personally actively participated in the Minsk negotiations from the very beginning, was in Minsk and 5, and 19 in September last year, when the protocol and the memorandum on the dividing line were signed. And now he is the official representative of the DPR in the Minsk working group on political issues. Nobody deprived him of this status. However, later, Pushilin made a statement saying that the functions of Andrei Purgin, which he performed at the negotiations in Minsk, would be removed from him and assigned to another person.

It’s still hard to say what will bring Pushilin in this way as chairman of parliament. Pushilin will continue to defend the interests of the DPR at the negotiations in the Minsk format as chairman of parliament. We'll see.

As for the prospects Purgina, he will remain a member of the National Council. This was stated by Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on Health Alexander Avdeev. I wonder why Avdeev? Why not himself Pushilin or Zakharchenko? Purgin as if not the last person in the DNI ... Apparently, he was. Because it is still either arrested, or detained.

According to one version, the change of power in the parliament of the Donetsk Republic could mean the end of the era of domination of the so-called “war party”, which advocated the escalation of the conflict in the Donbas. Pushilin, who participated in all the Minsk talks, is more a diplomat than a military man, and supports the cease-fire policy.

According to another version, the coup in the DPR is intra-elite in nature and is associated with the struggle to control financial flows in the republic. Allegedly Alexandrov tried to create his own influence group in parliament and engage in business without taking into account the interests of other high-ranking officials. At the same time, Purgin was under his full influence and did not take independent decisions, which did not suit many of the DPR deputies.

Purgin, who is under the influence ... without comment.

Very strange situation. And not easy to understand. It was not for nothing that I wrote “Part of 1” in the title. Continuation will be as soon as I receive information from correspondents from Donetsk. It so happened that there is someone to cover what is happening from the scene.

As for the title of the article, for the time being we can congratulate Pushilin on the coronation as chairman of parliament. How much this move will be useful to the republic and the Donetsk people, it will be clear a little later.

To be continued.
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  1. Loner_53
    Loner_53 6 September 2015 08: 45 New
    +44
    I can’t judge for now what and how, but the sediment on my soul is bitter. Someone is really dirty with the idea of ​​New Russia.
    1. Finches
      Finches 6 September 2015 10: 32 New
      +8
      Power is a very strong drug! It’s very easy to get hooked on it and it’s almost impossible to get off - all the time you want to increase the dose ... Here, the intervention of the Kremlin, as a qualified narcologist, would not hinder it, otherwise all the gains would go to dust!
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 6 September 2015 10: 49 New
        +31
        Quote: Loner_53
        . Someone great smears mud idea of ​​New Russia.

        Throw you. There is no New Russia, even in our media this word is taboo. The organizers of the southeast show refused this idea at the end of last year. And the change of Purgin by Pushilin is just a change of scenery, you need a little aggravation, promotion of the theme in the media. What will change? Nothing. One clown succeeded another. They played the performance as if by notes. Both of them have the same owner.
        1. Loner_53
          Loner_53 6 September 2015 11: 00 New
          +11
          Quote: baltika-18
          Throw you

          Yes, everything is clear, just just flashed something bright, which I wanted to believe sad
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 6 September 2015 11: 06 New
            +7
            Quote: Loner_53
            Yes, everything is clear, just just flashed something bright, which I wanted to believe

            So there was a reckoning. On historical memory and features of personality psychology. All these good experts untwisted.
        2. atalef
          atalef 6 September 2015 11: 13 New
          -17
          Quote: baltika-18
          Throw you


          That's for sure.
          How many coups, suspensions, murders of field commanders have already happened - someone can count
          Well let's just vap where everything
          Strelkov, Boroday, Mozgovoy, Gubarev, Bolotov, etc. etc. - All of them
          And then this will be maybe
          in the LPR and the DPR, the organized crime groups rule - and the bandits even though they are painted red - they will all the same be bandits.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 6 September 2015 12: 02 New
            +5
            in the LPR and the DPR, the organized crime groups rule - and the bandits even though they are painted red - they will all the same be bandits.


            LND and DPR are controlled “manually” from the Kremlin. And who is used as leverage - it makes no difference. The main thing is that in time they transfer below all the control actions and in time and without problems are replaced. Strelkov and Brain, IMHO, were the last independent chiefs in New Russia. Well, the fact that the "organized crime group", so who else could put to observe the interests of the Kremlin oligarchs. Well, not Strelkov, who, not only is he very nervous after so many wars, there’s no normal compromising on him either. Those. completely uncontrollable. so if there’s an organized crime group, it’s “systemic,” they say, working “under the red roof”.
            1. atalef
              atalef 6 September 2015 12: 22 New
              -20
              Quote: alicante11
              LND and DPR are controlled “manually” from the Kremlin. And who is used as leverage - it makes no difference.

              No difference ? Well, the people know their bandits ... and believes accordingly. probably that's why they run

              Quote: alicante11
              Well, the fact that "OPG", so who else could put to observe the interests of the Kremlin oligarchs

              what is pop - such is the coming
              Quote: alicante11
              Well, not Strelkova, who, not only is he very nervous after so many wars, there’s also no normal dirt on him.

              There is, and you better not know him
              Quote: alicante11
              Those. completely uncontrollable.

              Would be uncontrollable - not gone
              Quote: alicante11
              so if there’s an organized crime group, it’s “systemic,” they say, working “under the red roof”.

              this makes me happy laughing
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 6 September 2015 14: 14 New
                +2
                No difference ? Well, the people know their bandits ... and believes accordingly. probably that's why they run


                Run from shelling. And where? To the bosses of this "organized crime group."

                what is pop - such is the coming


                They all come from 90's. And who will remember the old ...

                There is, and you better not know him


                Well then you are all so unoriginal. Psacking is contagious - we have evidence, but we will not provide it to you.

                Would be uncontrollable - not gone


                Well, Mozgovoy didn’t leave - so they killed him. And there would also be. Yes, and the offensive would start later.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 6 September 2015 13: 19 New
              +22
              I read it.
              An interesting situation is developing in the DPR, organized crime groups rule the Nazis in Ukraine under the rule of Jews.
              Right "witch's coven" some lol
          2. Horst78
            Horst78 6 September 2015 12: 42 New
            +10
            All the main bandits in the land of the "chosen" live. Gusinsky, Nevzlin, etc.
          3. Tambov Wolf
            Tambov Wolf 6 September 2015 16: 46 New
            +20
            Well, as for the organized crime group, you are in vain. You can say with the same success that the organized crime group rules us too. Moreover, it’s permanent. Two days ago I wrote that misunderstandings began in the DPR. They minus me. Okay, these are the little things in life. Surkov himself and his comrades will. So that Rinatka Akhmetov’s business is surely not threatening anything now. It’s obvious that we were spanked by a good bakshish. Now it’s good to be truncated. You’ll be connected to Nenko anyway. And you’re talking about the ideals of “people.” everything. Bullshit, loot and loot again, both from the other side and from “ours.” All who thought about Russia, who would be with Russia, were scammed or kicked out. There were corrupt politicians. There is someone to take an example from.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 6 September 2015 20: 41 New
              +2
              Quote: Tambov Wolf
              Tambov Wolf

              And that, Volchara. You see almost at the very root.
          4. avt
            avt 6 September 2015 18: 53 New
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            Well let's just vap where everything

            Quote: atalef
            in the LPR and the DPR, the organized crime groups rule - and the bandits even though they are painted red - they will all the same be bandits.

            laughing Well, let’s throw it off - Which of the prime ministers of Israel blew up the hotel in a terrorist manner ,,, King David "seems to be from the contingent withdrawn from Palestine ???
          5. aiden
            aiden 6 September 2015 22: 36 New
            0
            I agree with you. I’m worried about something else, namely: how many Ukrainian weapons have been brought into Russia now, it’s no secret that our National Bolsheviks are fighting in the Donbas, and what experience they will receive, all these Limonovs (RNEs) and others in a multinational country will not be anything good.
          6. Rock2
            Rock2 7 September 2015 09: 20 New
            0
            Bandits rule in Ukraine too. On NTV the film was "Ukraine in Law" (in my opinion it was called). So there they interviewed a certain “Mongol” friend of the “Jap”, who was responsible for the “business” in Ukraine. He spent 7 years in prison and left after he agreed to a deal with the US investigation and gave incriminating evidence (racketeering, robbery, murder, etc.) to the current leaders of Ukraine (Gunpowder, Yatsenyukh, a lady with a scythe, etc.). So it’s not a fact that in the LPR, the DPR rule the organized crime group, but the fact that in Ukraine the organized crime group rules this is a fact!
            SASHA clearly holds them for one place, and those will have nowhere to do everything they say ... A good NTV film showed (only once). Google, maybe you'll find ...
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        3. Victorio
          Victorio 6 September 2015 22: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: baltika-18
          Quote: Loner_53
          . Someone great smears mud idea of ​​New Russia.

          Throw you. There is no New Russia, even in our media this word is taboo. The organizers of the southeast show refused this idea at the end of last year. And the change of Purgin by Pushilin is just a change of scenery, you need a little aggravation, promotion of the theme in the media. What will change? Never mind.One clown succeeded the other. They played the performance as if by notes. The owner of both is the same.

          ==
          is it rudeness, snobbery or nihilism?
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 6 September 2015 23: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: Victorio
            is it rudeness, snobbery or nihilism?

            This is the truth of life that someone does not see, someone does not want to see, and someone considers it a lie.
      2. Leonid1976
        Leonid1976 6 September 2015 11: 58 New
        +4
        Come on. Everything that happens there is controlled by the Kremlin. But they are very ideological, either perish in senseless attacks or lie in diggings or are closed in forest belts. Well, another version of Betman and Brain. And this ... the struggle between the towers of the Kremlin, for flows, scenarios for influence on the Pope. It seems that while Surkov defeats Volodin.
        1. Xergey
          Xergey 6 September 2015 12: 15 New
          +5
          I completely agree with you, and it has already been shown and proved many times, there was no Novorosia only to maintain stability at that time, and now suddenly silence, and even the GDP, somehow forgot about it. (Reminds the film Game of Thrones, a lot of lies and hypocrisy) and all the disadvantages of either not understanding or hypocrisy.
      3. Xergey
        Xergey 6 September 2015 12: 06 New
        +4
        Do you think that this happened without the consent of the Kremlin? It seems naive to think so.
      4. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 6 September 2015 16: 32 New
        +2
        Eugene, I’m a far cry from politics, and I'm interested. Do you really think that everything that happened happened without the participation of the Kremlin? For some reason I can hardly believe it. At least because indirect facts indicate a tendency to freeze the conflict. But the fact that this is not the end but the beginning of a game is probably more obvious.
      5. shvn
        shvn 6 September 2015 21: 42 New
        -1
        maybe the Kremlin needs it?
      6. Cubano405
        Cubano405 7 September 2015 05: 53 New
        -1
        The Russian politician said that without America, Yatsenyuk is void. I believe that without the Kremlin, all the politicians of Novorossia are not very influential, so a definite conclusion suggests itself. I do not believe that all these movements of Pushilin are not coordinated with certain persons in the Kremlin. Which ones? I am sure that we will not know. Yes, there is a huge sediment, the methods are especially strange, but one thing calms it down - the power is in the TRUTH, it is a dear one and coupled with history, it will put everything in its place, it is enough to recall Berezovsky and Khodorkovsky .....
    2. vladek64
      vladek64 6 September 2015 10: 52 New
      +14
      Quote: Loner_53
      Someone is very dirty with mud idea of ​​New Russia


      I think Novorossia has nothing to do with it. Moreover, no one was able to formulate the "idea of ​​New Russia". Tsarev did not even bother to make the official website of New Russia. Probably because of his complete inaction and there is nothing to write there.

      And here it looks like the situation "while the king was distracted." While Putin is far away (China, Vladivostok), "we will quickly slip in here." And when he returns, everything is already done, well, he will not return anything.

      Naughty somehow ...
    3. Alexl
      Alexl 6 September 2015 11: 00 New
      +5
      The idea of ​​Novorossia is an attempt to get out of the control of Akhmetov and his PR projects of the DPR and LPR. The same Pushilin in the leadership of the DPR was from the very beginning. In addition, it would not be out of place to listen to Gubarev’s opinion on what happened. He called the change of Purgin to Pushilin a change of sewn for soap and generally did not speak too favorably of Purgin.
    4. fennekRUS
      fennekRUS 6 September 2015 11: 46 New
      +4
      A very strange situation. And not easy to understand.
      not having time to build, began to divide assets. Expected, in general. Unfortunately.
    5. wiwa
      wiwa 6 September 2015 12: 14 New
      +9
      the idea of ​​Novorossia can be forgotten, the media don’t even use it after Minsk2 — you see they got the go-ahead, just do not focus peaceful losses — only dry reports, so there is a drain, not a drain, but a lot of dust ....
    6. anip
      anip 6 September 2015 13: 32 New
      +9
      Quote: Loner_53
      Someone is very dirty with mud the idea of ​​New Russia.

      What is New Russia? What are you talking about? Forget the myth of Novorossia, Novorossia ended a year ago, even without really starting.
    7. yan 2015
      yan 2015 6 September 2015 19: 12 New
      +1
      started for health .. I would not want the people to be disappointed in this noble cause. and the result of the work begun is so important.
    8. Fedor
      Fedor 6 September 2015 20: 12 New
      +1
      No need to discuss and comment on anything. With the current development of IT technologies, it is very simple to select the appropriate material on the Internet. For example:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL88l1eXcqs
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ml_TALK1XU
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ifBDu6f_Lc
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8BfOMB2wS4
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OP9BgKLqTM

      That's what "we" have come to. And here is who “we” chose “as our leader”. If someone tells me that this was done without the knowledge of the highest instances in the Kremlin, I won’t argue, I just won’t believe it.
      1. yan 2015
        yan 2015 6 September 2015 23: 34 New
        +1
        I'm in shock .. from
        this leader-leader of the scam.
      2. Babr
        Babr 7 September 2015 04: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Fedor
        That's what "we" have come to.

        Guys. I read here. And all with skill, skipping discuss some changes there in the government of New Russia.
        I stopped at this koment. Just a year ago, I talked about this.
        MMM a lot of scam. Nothing has changed. Nothing will change.
        And you need to perceive Pushilin only as a scam.
        He has such an essence.
        There was no Brain, no New Russia.
        And no one will replace him.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 September 2015 05: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Babr
          There was no Brain, no New Russia.

          Brain has never associated itself with New Russia.
          1. Babr
            Babr 7 September 2015 12: 40 New
            0
            Right.
            With the oligarchic New Russia.
            Therefore, he was gone.
            There were Pushilins.
    9. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 6 September 2015 21: 55 New
      +1
      Thoughts in one word BETRAYAL am
    10. Dmitry Donskoy
      Dmitry Donskoy 6 September 2015 21: 57 New
      +1
      Thoughts in one word - BETRAYAL am
    11. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 7 September 2015 00: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Loner_53
      I can’t judge for now what and how, but the sediment on my soul is bitter. Someone is really dirty with the idea of ​​New Russia.

      I emotionally agree.
      But in fact - it's just a disaster.
      Novorossiysk act like the proteges of the oligarchs. Sneakily, illegally, at least as if spontaneously, without discussion, without taking into account external factors ...
      No matter how everything ended, Pushilin ceased to be an exponent of popular aspirations.
      Compromising evidence on Purgin - I’m sure it will turn out to be a blizzard.
      ... And Ukrainians rejoice ... I hope that in vain. I hope so far.
    12. user
      user 7 September 2015 08: 29 New
      0
      and the imposition of Novorossia on a very definite course of development and certain people who are called upon to ensure the implementation of this course.


      Someone coolly smears the idea of ​​New Russia with mud, and it began with Strelkov's resignation.
  2. fa2998
    fa2998 6 September 2015 08: 51 New
    +25
    That’s exactly what I was afraid of! Last year, everyone came to power as patriots, anti-fascists, Donbass Minins and Pozharsky. Now the BREAKTHROUGH for power begins. Some have already died under unclear circumstances. Apparently, stability is harmful to them. I thought they would really build "people's republics" - apparently end authoritarianism and leaders. negative hi
    1. udincev
      udincev 6 September 2015 09: 33 New
      +5
      Quote: fa2998
      I thought the “people's republics” would really be built — apparently ending in authoritarianism and leaders.

      The way it is:
      the imposition of Novorossia on a very definite course of development and certain people called to ensure the implementation of this course. The fact that such a course and its people are completely alien to the population and militia of the republics, the organizers of this process do not care. In politics and business, there is no place for national interests, and even more so for some "ideals" ”
    2. torp
      torp 6 September 2015 10: 16 New
      0
      Do not panic !!! DNR puppets are the same as Kiev puppets, they depend only on Moscow! So without the knowledge of Moscow, this is unlikely to happen! Everything will be fine, do not worry!
      1. alone
        alone 6 September 2015 12: 25 New
        +8
        Quote: torp
        Do not panic !!! DNR puppets are the same as Kiev puppets, they depend only on Moscow! So without the knowledge of Moscow, this is unlikely to happen! Everything will be fine, do not worry!


        Purgin was replaced by an MMM-schik. It’s not a secret to anyone that Pishulin was an MMM-schik, in short, a fraudster of the average hand. Someone who remembers him from Donetsk. Personally, I think that Zakharchenko, Plotnitsky, Pishulin or Ivanov, Sidorov, there’s no difference. These people They don’t decide anything, they just turned out to be necessary. It is necessary to show the world at least that it was as if the republics were ruled by local people.

        And these locals warmed up their pockets well. At the expense of the blood of ordinary people. Here Zakharchenko in Donetsk has a network of markets lovingly named after his wife. Local whispers claim that exactly half of the humanitarian aid settles there and is for sale.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 6 September 2015 12: 56 New
          +6
          Quote: lonely
          , Pishulin was an MMM-shchikov, in short, a fraudster of the middle hand.

          You know, when such a project is implemented, the contingent is always selected from such personalities.
          Zakharchenko-work in the Olipm vodka company, the position of a supervisor who looked in Russian quit scandal, then he worked in the Donetsk branch of the Kiev company Gavrilovskie Kurchatov as a smoker. He loves to show battle scars received allegedly in Afghanistan, although 1976 year of birth. Quite tongue-tied, the seal of intelligence is absent. Others are not better there. All these Kofmans, Shaftners, etc. etc.
          1. alone
            alone 6 September 2015 13: 04 New
            0
            Greetings, Nikolay.

            You won’t go far with such personalities. People do not understand one thing. Normal people will not go for such people.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 6 September 2015 18: 15 New
              +2
              Quote: lonely
              With such personalities you will not go far.

              Hi, lonely. These personalities were not followed by someone following them. They were only for the picture, to maintain the conflict in the stage of sluggish schizophrenia no more.
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 6 September 2015 16: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: lonely
          Personally, I think that Zakharchenko, Plotnitsky, Pishulin or Ivanov, Sidorov, there is no difference. These people do not solve anything

          Not quite so, for example, Purgin is one of those who for the complete independence of the DPR from Ukraine, apparently for this they “pushed” him.
      2. udincev
        udincev 6 September 2015 12: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: torp
        So without the knowledge of Moscow, this is unlikely to happen! Everything will be fine, do not worry!

        Moscow is a loose concept.
    3. user
      user 7 September 2015 08: 33 New
      0
      Now begins the Gnawing for power



      When Danton, defeated by Robespierre, stood in front of the guillotine, he managed to say the words: "The revolution devours its children."
      There is nothing to add to this; there is a struggle between Khokhlov and Ukrainians.
  3. Kaskadermike
    Kaskadermike 6 September 2015 08: 52 New
    +2
    So Ahmetka made a fuss, take away the extra ones and push Pushik into Ukraine with his hands. Just recently, one very interesting document slipped through to 81 pages about who is who and with whom in the DPR. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KRFj1l0PytVM0UVt8U5V1DOo78npyqeANtUvjphUI_E/
    edit? pli = 1
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 6 September 2015 09: 13 New
      +13
      read this "document", which is called: "Help ..."
      Are you serious? Call this paper without any identification marks (without an author, without a signature, without anything at all!) As an "interesting document"? And draw conclusions from it. Such cartoons are hourly from the government, SBU, Zrada, From Ukraine come!
      So the inscriptions on the fence are more interesting!
      1. Kaskadermike
        Kaskadermike 6 September 2015 22: 22 New
        +2
        I will not prove anything here, on this resource it is useless. I draw conclusions from what is happening in Donetsk, I personally observed the cut of the Izolyatsia plant, which competed with Akhmetovsky DTEK, because it was a strategic enterprise for the production of special cables and power poles of all classes. As the guys from the "East" sawed it on metal and sold it on brick walls at 0.75 kopecks per item. This is just one example. It is no secret to anyone, especially who does business in the DPR, that the entire top leadership has close ties with Ukraine, and the slogans and “patriotic education” are for the picture. When I start to describe what is really happening in Donetsk, the participants of this site really do not like it, here Gromov is held in high esteem with beautiful pictures and harmonious text, and an avatar with Assad and popular prices in the municipal trolley bus)))
        PS Or do you all believe that Givi and Motorola are defenders of the DPR, except that the defenders don’t shoot at each other when dividing the planes at the airport, so that they don’t cut or cut out machines in VPU 67, which was equipped with equipment like Donetsk PhysTech before they were visited which also went to the metal.
        1. samuil60
          samuil60 6 September 2015 22: 52 New
          0
          Well, let's pour the whole situation with more mud, but more - for the joy of ukra. There is enough dirt in life without us. And what, someone again believed in a "bright future" in a single small territory? Naive!
    2. avt
      avt 6 September 2015 09: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: KaskaderMike
      So Ahmetka made a fuss, take away the extra ones and push Pushik into Ukraine with his hands.

      fool Who is Pushilin to drag someone somewhere? Well, what are you talking about?
      1. alone
        alone 6 September 2015 12: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: avt
        Who is Pushilin to drag someone somewhere?

        A swindler, who’s he)) Do you remember that SBU captured Pashka Gubarev in a safe house? So, after being changed, Gubarev said that he was handed over by one of his close associates. Just go through the archival footage of 2014 and see who stood forever behind Gubarev’s back before his arrest, and then from whom the star flashed after his capture. You’ll understand.
    3. igortyson
      igortyson 6 September 2015 10: 28 New
      0
      Thanks for the link!!!
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 September 2015 08: 53 New
    +11
    It is difficult to understand this “mouse fuss” in the corridors of power of the DPR. But the fact that this does not contribute to normal work and discredits the authorities is understandable.
    1. avt
      avt 6 September 2015 09: 34 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      . But the fact that this does not contribute to normal work and discredits the authorities is understandable.

      good Voooot! Nobody has canceled the political struggle for joining power at any level! But it would be time in the Donbas to understand that without discounts on war one should not behave according to the boy’s terms! Otherwise, what exactly do they show to the rest of Ukraine? What, in accordance with dill propaganda, are there really foxes that drive frostbitten ??? It’s time to understand that the situation obligates called themselves the state — behave like statesmen and the fact that Purkina was left in parliament is a competent move and it doesn’t matter whether they themselves think it over or someone prompted them on time.
  5. awg75
    awg75 6 September 2015 08: 54 New
    +20
    “Every revolution is conceived by romantics, carried out by fanatics, and inveterate villains take advantage of its fruits. "
    Thomas Carlyle
  6. avt
    avt 6 September 2015 09: 00 New
    +25
    Less to the author for tantrum. What’s the reason for the fright, the “coup” he saw? Are they arresting Zakharchenko and sitting on a couple with Kononov under arrest at Khodakovsky’s basement, and Pushilin steers at the direction of Akhmetov ???? wassat Of course it’s ugly, to arrange “show masks” with Purgin at the border. One had to do without it - someone suggested the campaign and the storm itself in the glass was limited to changing the speaker / talker in their parliament. But what? The executive branch was shaken by the ruble money was withdrawn and the hryvnia was introduced ?? One hundred pounds in the background lies the redistribution of the financial flow, for which Pushilin probably inflated someone's ears about the fact that this resource runs counter to the line of the peace party to the buildup of the war, you won’t drink MMM past laughing . This is normal . Of course, against the backdrop of war, when ,, Everything for the front! All for victory! "Looks far no Well, not very comme il faut, well, then the Civil War request Well, remember the first self-promoted people - the same Gubarev. Purgin was almost completely treated with civilians, well, you can’t compare with Bednov and Mozgov, although of course the figure is not that - there is no armed force behind the parliament. The leading apparatus of the republics is emerging, and this is ALWAYS a struggle of factions. Do you think in Russia differently? Do you really think that under the carpet they do not bite to death for power in the regions? Yes, only Moscow is holding back from frank manifestations of the “dashing 90s,” and many bosom friends would have snagged each other for the Adam's apple with their “brigades,” but they are quiet, mocking the Kremlin and respecting decency - not comme il faut. Well, do you think the Center has a clan .... there is no flea market for the throne ???? And there, in the Donbass, there is really WAR and they are sitting, well, honestly, on a small patch for now. Here, of course, Karaulpatriots can make a bonfire — Surkov made Putin drain Novorossia wassat fool Well, the question is - but a lot of the almost 100 thousandth APUK corps in Donetsk and Lugansk switched and are massively switching to the side of the republics that have risen now ???? That and that. So the answer will be to all those who yell - “Let's get to Lviv!” The question is again to them - Who will get and what to do next? But I know for sure - who taps it on the clave will not go anywhere.
    1. Banshee
      6 September 2015 09: 30 New
      +14
      Quote: avt
      Minus the author for the tantrum. How frightened is he, he saw?


      Yes, in general, they saw, not just me. The arrest of 3 (three) deputies for this moment, the vote, before which the guards were throwing out the extras from the courtroom, are, of course, signs of democracy. I will not argue.

      Quote: avt
      Pushilin taxis on the orders of Akhmetov


      Pushilin taxis on the orders of Zakharchenko. Either for someone else, in the near future will show.

      Quote: avt
      One hundred pounds in the background lies the redistribution of the financial flow


      Common opinion that is actively promoted by the media. But the financial flows have nothing to do with it. Everything there has long been divided. It played the political aspects. Elections.

      Quote: avt
      Here, of course, the Karaulpatriots can make fires - Surkov made Putin merge Novorossia


      Yes, they themselves are doing so well. Although Groundhog was seen in the DNI not so long ago. Maybe in deeds, contagion.

      Quote: avt
      Minus the author for a tantrum


      Well, also an option. Tomorrow, too, with minuses, go to the light. It is already clear that the continuation in colors will be. You have an interesting point of view.
      1. avt
        avt 6 September 2015 10: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Banshee
        . But financial flows have nothing to do with it. Everything there has long been shared. Political aspects played here. Elections.

        no No . Firstly, for ANY election and EVERYWHERE in modern realities, money is needed. They are milk politics in the modern world. Well, since the elections are a legitimization of the right to power in the fight against the opponent, he needs to block the breeding ground if possible for the same elections, so the struggle for redistribution of seemingly established flows is ongoing and will ALWAYS continue with varying degrees of intensity in wartime civil war , and even with limited finances - it’s especially tough. From here the main blow was not even Pugin — it seemed to Aleksandrov, that is, the wallet and manager.
        Quote: Banshee
        Yes, they themselves are doing pretty well so far.

        It is likely that these are really internal, “graters” and by the way this episode ended with minimal losses for Purgin and no change in health -
        Quote: avt
        someone suggested a campaign

        And someone suggested the weight, Zakharchenko could well, if he did, it’s even good - he really exercises control over the “power block” - it’s easier to agree with one than with a dozen field commanders.
        Quote: Banshee
        Well, also an option. Tomorrow, too, with the minuses, go to the light.

        laughing And it was not necessary to start the rating of the article on the site, and if they entered it with a discussion, take it as it is.
      2. Tanais
        Tanais 6 September 2015 10: 34 New
        +9
        Quote: Banshee
        Yes, they themselves are doing so well. Although Groundhog was seen in the DNI not so long ago. Maybe in deeds, contagion.


        As without him, darling ...

        http://iskra-news.info/news/top_news/12909-ekspertnoe-mnenie-o-situacii-v-dnr-i-

        ee-perspektivah.html


        The article is added to the publication on VO if moderation passes, I hope to see the article’s ratings, the opinions of the author, and the views of users on the situation.
        1. Rock2
          Rock2 7 September 2015 11: 26 New
          0
          Tanais: http://iskra-news.info/news/top_news/12909-ekspertnoe-mnenie-o-situacii-v-dnr-i-


          ee-perspektivah.html

          Read. Surkov’s project is a stillborn project. After what was and is in Ukraine, it will not be possible to return the old oligarchic regime to power. According to the laws of management "If the horse died on the road, then do not drag it with you, you need to throw it." In other words, if the project is not being implemented due to some circumstances, then you do not need to push it further. It is necessary to come up with something new. And the sooner you throw out this “horse” the less losses and more funds will remain for the implementation of the new project. A new project, taking into account many factors, is seen only - NEW RUSSIA! Only it must be prepared in an appropriate manner. Something like this...
      3. Alexl
        Alexl 6 September 2015 11: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Banshee
        Quote: avt
        Minus the author for the tantrum. How frightened is he, he saw?


        Yes, in general, they saw, not just me. The arrest of 3 (three) deputies for this moment, the vote, before which the guards were throwing out the extras from the courtroom, are, of course, signs of democracy. I will not argue.

        Just before crying for the deputies it would not be out of place to recall how they were elected.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 6 September 2015 09: 43 New
      +7
      I support avt in everything. I add that everything described above also happens with an eye on older brothers - global players. Yes, I agree, the dream of a bright and infallible people's republic of Novorossia remained a dream. And the dream is naive and not real, if you look.
      1. Penetrator
        Penetrator 6 September 2015 10: 36 New
        0
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Yes, I agree, the dream of a bright and infallible people's republic of Novorossia remained a dream. And the dream is naive and not real, if you look.

        Someone had doubts what would be different? Initially, the Novorossiya project was purely Akhmetov’s. Only Khan did not take into account the passionarity of the people and their desire for social justice, so everything went awry. "People’s self-government, Donbass without oligarchs, etc." - Remember these slogans? Now everything is back to square one - as Donbass was Akhmetov’s estate, it will remain so. Even regardless of which state it will be a part of.
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 6 September 2015 11: 24 New
        +2
        The idea of ​​Novorosia was voiced by Putin publicly during the Crimean spring.
        And the people supported him - it was just necessary to complete this idea.
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 6 September 2015 13: 13 New
          0
          Quote: A resident of the Urals
          The idea of ​​Novorosia was voiced by Putin publicly during the Crimean spring.
          And the people supported him - it was just necessary to complete this idea.


          It would be interesting to understand who you are contacting? Who did not "finish to the end"?
        2. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 6 September 2015 16: 58 New
          +5
          The guarantor was blown away with the Russian World and Novorossiya, as well as with domestic politics. Of 160 decrees, 69 have been executed. And nothing to anyone. They are not up to the guarantor, grandmas do. He (the guarantor) for our ruling gang is nobody, and there is no way to call him (or one of them).
    3. Tanais
      Tanais 6 September 2015 10: 28 New
      +3
      Quote: avt
      Of course it’s ugly, to arrange “show masks” with Purgin at the border. We had to do without it - someone suggested the campaign and the storm itself in the glass was limited to the change of speaker / talker in their parliament.

      Everything was more prosaic. Pushilin, or those who helped him, did not avoid the temptation to get involved and demonstrate "hto the boss in the house" ...

      They showed "dashing dare", visited, and sank. It's time to share portfolios. We are waiting for some reformatting of the managerial structures "for our people" ...
      1. avt
        avt 6 September 2015 10: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Tanais
        . We are waiting for some reformatting of the managerial structures "for our people" ...

        This reformatting is also taking place with varying degrees of intensity in Russia. Mayor Makhachkala group ,, A "took almost a combat operation, well, which is now received the term. The question is - will it benefit in New Russia?
        Quote: Tanais
        They showed "dashing dare", visited, and sank.

        He already wrote - it’s a misfortune of growth in the conditions of war, when ,, rifle gives birth to power, "to solve the problems with the image of the republics using such methods. Well, what do they show the rest of Ukraine so substituting? Only give an occasion to walk again about, Gangster Donbass and the armed lesson " request It's time to behave as an adult. I really hope that they are aware and such excesses will be left behind. But I know for sure that the Kiev authorities have it ahead and not on an acidic scale.
        1. Tanais
          Tanais 6 September 2015 12: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: avt
          when ,, rifle gives rise to power "

          The expression of Frederick II ... It seems ...
          1. Penetrator
            Penetrator 6 September 2015 13: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Tanais
            Quote: avt
            when ,, rifle gives rise to power "

            The expression of Frederick II ... It seems ...

            Nope .. So Chairman Mao said. And in the lips of Friedrich would probably have sounded differently: "The Musket gives birth to power" smile
    4. alone
      alone 6 September 2015 13: 06 New
      -3
      Quote: avt
      Let’s get to Lviv! "The question is again to them - Who will reach and what then to do? But I know for sure - who taps it on the clave will not go anywhere.

      Nobody will get anywhere. They are good there. They rob and loot only this way.
    5. Awaz
      Awaz 6 September 2015 21: 45 New
      0
      I liked your comment. I want to add a little of my own. I don’t understand why there are sofa trolls who were hysterical about the coup. You should probably understand that at the moment, people in power in the Donbass are still not very independent. I would say - rather puppets. Therefore, some kind of replacement of the speaker or even the Minister of Defense will not affect the general course of events conceived by those who pay for everything. It’s possible that we will find out who and what they are persecuting for some time, but now we don’t really know anything and blaming someone for something is the last thing. We cannot even influence this.
      With all due respect to Zhuchkovsky ... but he really likes hysteria and playing on the side of the Hawks.
  7. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 September 2015 09: 11 New
    +6
    It’s alarming, incomprehensible, surprise and bitterness ... You can end the war in different ways. I am very worried about ordinary residents. And what will happen in the negotiations? Thanks for the article. Roman, if you can ---- write more often.
    1. avt
      avt 6 September 2015 09: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Reptiloid
      ..To end the war, you can do it differently

      laughing This is how the removal of Purgin then stopped the war! ?? wassat
      Quote: Reptiloid
      . And what will happen in the negotiations?

      ON WHAT ???? What are you talking about ??? Do you seriously consider Purgin, Pushilin as REAL decision-makers ???? laughing Yes, they’re like cancer before the moon! Well, you need to look at things soberly. request As of today, they are not subjects, but objects on the Game’s cell, .... nothing at all, this is especially evident against the background of Zagarchenko and Plotnitsky. Even though they can really give a voice, and even then not all and not everywhere. medical fact. No matter how it would be offensive to anyone to hear it.
      Quote: Reptiloid
      .Roman, if you can ---- write more often.

      Well, I join this, only it is advisable to be more calm in the formulations - as they say, Stalin expressed himself in telegrams to Sorge, I believe this is true, that he analyzes us, let him send the information. " smile
      1. Banshee
        6 September 2015 09: 34 New
        +7
        Quote: avt
        it is desirable to be quieter in the formulations - as they say, Stalin put it in the telegrams to Sorge, I think this is true, “What he analyzes to us, let him send the information."


        Well, that's for me to decide how. I am not an informant; I, too, oddly enough, may have my own point of view on events. Alas, the asexual and passionless transmitter of information was not and will not. So alas ... read as it is, or do not read.

        Quote: avt
        Yes, they are as before the moon cancer!


        Take a sample or something ... very informative and without emotion.
        1. avt
          avt 6 September 2015 09: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Banshee
          Well, it's up to me to decide.

          Who would argue, but not me.
          Quote: Banshee
          . I am not an informant, I, too, strangely enough, may have my own point of view on events.

          Anyone covering real events is an informant. Do not like the word? Well, let there be a freelance journalist - seem a free lancer.
          Quote: Banshee
          I, too, strangely enough, may have my own point of view on events

          Like anyone who covers real events, but if they took up something like that, they would like to differ from the current co -akers - graduates of the journalism department of Moscow State University and no offense
          Quote: Banshee
          read as is or don’t read.

          Since if you don’t filter outright rudeness from criticism, even if it is really not fair due to, say, the critic’s lack of information, then in such cases, well, if it’s interesting to convey my thoughts to people, I’m trying to somehow comprehend my own and attempt to make the second a selection of arguments in defense of what was said - sometimes it is possible to convince. But all one for the benefit of their own brain activity. laughing
          Quote: Banshee
          . So alas ... read as is, or don’t read.

          laughing ,, Oh, you're lying! You’re lying to the Tsar! "- I wanted something - ,, You !!! You are a commodity. Why is it commodity? Do not be outrageous. Huh?" laughing no Will not work . And not because I am so impudent, but because I myself have chosen such a share of undertaking to cover the current events, and even on the site with comments from readers. There are two ways out - either ban or disable the discussion altogether, as a class " laughing hi .
          1. T-73
            T-73 6 September 2015 10: 46 New
            +4
            You guys are arguing about nothing. You swear beautifully, even with all the punctuation marks, but .. However, there is something in this) And you, Roman, just thank you for the material. avt, write something of your own, I read it with pleasure.
            ps. Why pour comments stupid emoticons without measure?
            1. avt
              avt 6 September 2015 11: 01 New
              0
              Quote: T-73
              You guys are arguing about nothing.

              no No . And especially not
              Quote: T-73
              . Swear beautifully

              Well, at least I hope so. We are discussing a very simple and therefore complicated topic - the supply of hot material for its wide coverage.
              Quote: T-73
              . Why pour comments stupid emoticons without measure?

              And how a new, old ,, friend "Kikabidze - ,, I want .." sang in one song laughing
      2. Imperial
        Imperial 6 September 2015 10: 25 New
        +4
        Do you seriously consider Purgin, Pushilin as REAL decision-makers ????
        I completely agree, decisions are made in higher offices (of which even Magadan is visible) That's just the identity of Pushilin with his MMM ... to put it mildly doubt, the image is also worth something.
  8. Das Boot
    Das Boot 6 September 2015 09: 15 New
    +9
    Does anyone take MMMs seriously besides himself?
    Xoxlam need to wait a bit - the Donetsk bureaucrats will do everything for them.
  9. nikolaev
    nikolaev 6 September 2015 09: 36 New
    +7
    Strelkov's comments on the situation in LDNR on September 5.09.2015, XNUMX
    http://vk.com/syriaassad?w=wall-32450421_501958%2Fall
    One can argue about these conclusions, but one thing is certain: this “leapfrog” harms the prestige of the Russian authorities and causes disappointment in its leaders. Which is dangerous in the current circumstances. This may indicate the shortsightedness of the Russian government and its dependence on the backstage.
  10. bubla5
    bubla5 6 September 2015 09: 55 New
    +1
    Damn everywhere intrigue
  11. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 6 September 2015 09: 57 New
    +3
    According to one version, a change of power in the parliament of the Donetsk Republic could mean the end of the era of dominance of the so-called “party of war”,

    It’s clear that the matter is dark ...., official Russia begins to push through the project of “unitary Ukraine ... ????
  12. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 September 2015 09: 58 New
    +2
    You can certainly try to look for a quote where I wrote a year ago that I did not trust Pushilin. He was and remained MMM; soon there will be Poroshenko in Kiev, his clone in Donetsk.
  13. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 6 September 2015 10: 07 New
    +1
    The Kremlin is shuffling cards, no need for panic.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 14: 15 New
      +7
      To be honest, the Kremlin is engaged in muinay, a year and a half already.
      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 6 September 2015 16: 34 New
        +1
        so and minus what for what?
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 16: 46 New
          +1
          Minus not mine request I put a plus, corrected the situation a little.
  14. fa2998
    fa2998 6 September 2015 10: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: avt
    Less to the author for tantrum. That's what a fright ,, coup ”he saw?

    This is not about that! There was no coup in the USSR, Cuba, North Korea and other countries ALREADY a victorious revolution! There is a transformation of power, from FREEDOM and EQUALITY there is LIFESTYLE, and a closed, undercover fight. That's not good! negative hi RS, we naively admired and hoped for the young "people's republics."
    1. avt
      avt 6 September 2015 10: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      It's not about that!

      no Let’s not write in defense of the author between the lines of the type -, well, we understand what he wanted to say. "The author clearly and not ambiguously expressed his attitude to the incident - REVERSE. This is his right, his opinion, in my opinion, is too emotional. Well, I expressed my opinion on how everything happened there.
      Quote: nikolaev
      but one thing is certain: this “leapfrog” harms the prestige of the Russian government

      Yes, naturally ,, castling "by such" patsansky "methods ....... request Come on, the Russian one, the main trouble is that they show the rest of Ukraine! They didn’t say, but simply a “gangster enclave!” And this will be a long time in Ukraine.
    2. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 6 September 2015 11: 20 New
      +1
      well, at least the Nazis did not come to power, this is a very big plus
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 6 September 2015 16: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      There is a transformation of power, from FREEDOM and EQUALITY, there is LEADERLAND, and a closed, undercover fight. That's not good!
      Unclear. Well, we had “leaderism” after the revolution, with it the USSR won in wars. Freedom and equality are good when they don’t shoot around, and if they shoot, then there is no time to organize debates and endless debates of “free and equal”. I personally do not see who claims to be the “leader” status there, so I would not speak about leaderism, but about one-man management, which in the war, umv, has no alternative.
  15. Rash
    Rash 6 September 2015 10: 16 New
    0
    Quote: Banshee

    Quote: avt
    Yes, they are as before the moon cancer!


    Take a sample or something ... very informative and without emotion.


    Nah, sample: "How to Beijing with cancer." lol
  16. Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 6 September 2015 10: 24 New
    0
    What a pop is such a parish. Paradise apples will not grow on the birch of the Russian "democracy". Scolding Ukrainians, but what in return?
  17. T-73
    T-73 6 September 2015 10: 34 New
    +1
    Revolutionary squabbles, but the outcome is important to us. A person should remain who has real power and the will to resolve the issues of the republic. If you look deeply, then neither Pushilin nor Purgin are at all the figures that Moscow would like to lean on. Do not pull. But time will tell.
    Quote: Stauffenberg
    Scolding Ukrainians, but what in return?

    what is this about? There is no "censor", Ukrainians do not scold, rather sympathize
    1. Stauffenberg
      Stauffenberg 6 September 2015 11: 10 New
      +2
      Come on. How many articles criticized both the leadership and the Ukrainian society. There is a circus in Ukraine, and we, in return, also a booth, just with other actors.
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 September 2015 14: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: T-73
      A person should remain who has real power and the will to resolve the issues of the republic.

      What is it like? By natural revolutionary selection? I remember once solved this guillotine. laughing
      1. T-73
        T-73 6 September 2015 18: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Das Boot
        By natural revolutionary selection

        No, of course, and you understand that perfectly. And the guillotine solved completely different problems.
  18. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 September 2015 10: 50 New
    +1
    АVT !! dear! I answer at first thought if I think of it --- I’ll add it. Replacing the actors in the negotiations is just another reason for nitpicking opponents, as I understand it. For everyone to see ---- it’s never good for anyone. ONCE AGAIN is the occasion of nitpicking. I do not want to out loud, let alone print (magic of writing, proverb) I have prejudices.
    Several ways, in MY opinion ------ horrible may exist in plans to end the war. Remember the rally in Donetsk, the last with the participation of Zakharchenko. I have not read those who write after you.
    1. avt
      avt 6 September 2015 11: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Reptiloid
      U. Replacing the actors in the negotiations --- an extra reason for nitpicking opponents, as I understand it

      no And who in the negotiations changed that ???? If you look from this side, then at Pushilin, the participant in the Minsk talks, the status increased exactly by turnover.
      Quote: Reptiloid
      . Removal of squabbles. For everyone to see ---- it’s never good for anyone. ONCE AGAIN is the occasion of nitpicking.

      Well, so I wrote that the harm is quite specific - the loss of image in the eyes of the population of Ukraine request
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I have prejudices.

      Then you cannot calmly and clearly dissect the facts to compile a picture of what is happening. Emotions ALWAYS negatively affect the compilation of an objective analysis of current events, about which I actually had a dispute with Roman today.
      1. T-73
        T-73 6 September 2015 14: 06 New
        0
        Quote: avt
        Then you can’t

        and can you? while I see from you only a discussion of comments, not articles
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  20. tomket
    tomket 6 September 2015 11: 25 New
    0
    Question. What's up with Motorola? It seems like faith on pro-Ukrainian sites there were joyful cries about how Motorola hastily left Donetsk. Corresponds to reality?
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 14: 17 New
      +3
      Zhuchkovsky wrote that he went to Russia. Whether he left forever, or no one knows about business (he also left before). It just coincided with this "coup" and the dill was carried by the media.
  21. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 6 September 2015 11: 42 New
    +1
    Like spiders in a jar bite. It's a shame.
  22. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 September 2015 11: 54 New
    +2
    AVT !! dear! My words "I have prejudices" proverb "that is written with a pen --- do not cut down with an ax" I want to write in short, because. the principles of turning on the filter are strange. I believe in the magic of the word, psycholinguistics, so to speak. And as for the calm preparation of the facts, nobody can read it all, they are experiencing everything, and you too. Somehow it turned out that someone in time later than me, new ones appeared earlier. It is necessary to read. Regards.
  23. Vishnevsky
    Vishnevsky 6 September 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    I did not like this Pushilin from the very beginning, all so sleek, shiny in a suit at a time when all normal men were wearing military uniforms. The feeling that the main thing for a person is to seize power. Although some kind of muddy Purgin.
  24. lonovila
    lonovila 6 September 2015 12: 15 New
    +6
    -But in Kharkov and Odessa everything is calm and no worries ...
    -And in Kharkov it was so ... -With great joy and tripled enthusiasm day and night, simple kind workers ... rivet military equipment of all stripes in order to properly arm dill against New Russia ...
    -Here you and Kharkov ... -the great Russian city ... - Kharkov was "blown away" ... like a balloon ... -Mythoses about the "Kharkov partisans" have long been forgotten ... -Who would think ...
    -It seems that Novorossia itself ... -also soon "blown away" ...
    -All this goes ...
    1. Leonid1976
      Leonid1976 6 September 2015 14: 15 New
      +2
      Or maybe the Kharkovites do not want Motorola and Givi? They do not want to work for food and sit without retirement, drugs. Would you like in your city? What would you surging at night do not understand which side?
      1. Das Boot
        Das Boot 6 September 2015 14: 31 New
        +4
        Quote: Leonid1976
        Or maybe the Kharkovites do not want Motorola and Givi? They do not want to work for food and sit without retirement, drugs. Would you like in your city? What would you surging at night do not understand which side?

        I wrote everything correctly. The Novorossiysk romance did not stick to the Kharkiv. And the cowboy MMMschik doesn’t cause much liking either. And it’s complete cretinism to condemn the turner from the defense enterprise for the fact that he goes to work every day.
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 6 September 2015 23: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: Leonid1976
        Or maybe the Kharkovites do not want Motorola and Givi? They do not want to work for food and sit without retirement, drugs. Would you like in your city? What would you surging at night do not understand which side?

        ====
        they want to live well, and for the sake of this, it seems, they are ready for anything, well, for almost everything
    2. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 September 2015 16: 04 New
      0
      Quote: lonovila
      "Blown away" Kharkov

      Yes, he did not inflate.
  25. xomaNN
    xomaNN 6 September 2015 12: 37 New
    0
    It’s a muddy story recourse
    Especially in a situation where Ukrainians are about to attack.

    Or is it already "Headquarters Fire" ???
  26. samarin1969
    samarin1969 6 September 2015 12: 59 New
    0
    From the "ice campaign" remains farce and shadow ... and ETERNAL MEMORY and HOPE
  27. Ivan Ivanych
    Ivan Ivanych 6 September 2015 13: 01 New
    +3
    One thing is clear. While Novorossiya is under fire, the warrior cannot be completely removed from power. The "outfits" of horizons may not be enough to achieve the ultimate goal
    PS Reasoning as a "jacket"
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 6 September 2015 13: 10 New
      +2
      “Jackets” - civil affairs, “uniforms” - military. Better not to mix - it is fraught with tyranny.
      1. Ivan Ivanych
        Ivan Ivanych 6 September 2015 15: 35 New
        +1
        Not so much a tyranny as a mess. And the uniform obliges
  28. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 September 2015 13: 07 New
    +1
    In the DPR, Zakharchenko is the main one. Or am I not understanding something?
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 6 September 2015 14: 03 New
      +3
      Denis Pushilin, chairman of the public organization "Donetsk Republic" (under the auspices of Zakharchenko). All government employees of the DPR join the organization. As for me, unnecessary squabbles are currently not the place. Somehow not quite peaceful here. When, on November 2, 2014, Zakhar won the election, some “deputies of Novorossia” (I don’t know such a legislative body), with “drunken eyes” - “Now we will raise the Cossacks, we’ll take a look at ... everything ...” Now memories of the Cossacks. Many of them became part of the BCH. And about Strelkov’s commentary “On the state of BCH” ... Of course, he knows better from Moscow, only drug addicts and drunkards are not kept in units. And Motorola (in a hurry from Donetsk did not leave), sometimes it rolls a child along the Kalmius embankment. In general, everything is as always, "vsepropaloputinsil."
  29. Apsit
    Apsit 6 September 2015 13: 11 New
    +5
    Quote: lonovila
    -Here you and Kharkov ... -the great Russian city ... - Kharkov was "blown away" ... like a balloon ... -Mythoses about the "Kharkov partisans" have long been forgotten ... -Who would think ...

    Well, you compared - then and now. At that time, people knew why they were dying, but today it’s one business and nothing personal.
    1. Das Boot
      Das Boot 6 September 2015 16: 20 New
      -1
      Quote: Apsit
      Well, you compared - then and now. At that time, people knew why they were dying.

      when is it then?
      Actually, the Kharkov Partisans are: http://partizankh.su/
      And you, in fact, what were you thinking about?
      network access Dilute crap with the same nonsense from the censor and call it "information resistance."
      "Events in Ukraine - this is a turning point in history, the same as the crucifixion of Christ ..." - this is from their forum. Clever, huh? Do you think these hamsters are going to die for something? laughing
  30. sarmat-4791
    sarmat-4791 6 September 2015 13: 57 New
    0
    A muddy story. It is similar to the one when Mironov was removed from the post of Chairman of the Federation Council. I think it will be the same here.
  31. provincial
    provincial 6 September 2015 14: 05 New
    +2
    Interestingly, if you imagine that the Minsk agreements will be implemented, where will the DNI and LC be? Suddenly, the Natsiks of Ukraine will figure out and implement the Minsk agreements, hold elections and again find themselves in power, what will happen to the inhabitants of these republics?
    1. Leonid1976
      Leonid1976 6 September 2015 14: 21 New
      +2
      Yes, there will be nothing. What happened to Mariupol? Maybe they opened concentration camps? Or have Russian schools been closed? Or does Azov crucify the children? Everything as it was only poorer than before.
    2. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 14: 31 New
      +4
      Yes, there will be nothing. There will be pensions, salaries will be, there will be no Kremlin henchmen-traitors (there will be Ukrainian ones). How to live in such a DENER and LENER where they do not allow to liberate their territory, where they sign the Minsk disgrace (although this violates the declaration on the proclamation of the DPR and LPR), where they are forced to observe a "truce", where the republics are not popular, but again "Akhmetian" ...
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 6 September 2015 15: 16 New
        +5
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        where the republics are not popular, but again “Akhmetov’s” ...

        This is the most important thing! had a dream - to create a republic without oligarchs and capitalists. For this, the people rose and was ready to fight. And hundreds of volunteers rushed to help them. And we hoped that Russia would help ... And we were led to this, because memory and faith in the USSR live in us. Only now in Russia is capitalism too and it is easier to come to an agreement with Akhmetov and help his oligarchs who have business in Donetsk than to support and create a PEOPLE's Republic. Hence all the events ....
        1. rosarioagro
          rosarioagro 6 September 2015 18: 15 New
          +1
          Everything is so, there was a dream of a just society and it remained a dream, everything became much more mundane and unsightly, again money became the basis, hence the uncertainty in the future
        2. T-73
          T-73 6 September 2015 20: 31 New
          +1
          Lena, Russia already helps. The republics must succeed in the political arrangement of themselves. Minsk-2 was a mistake. Everyone understood this. Now the Russian Federation is freezing the beginning of another change as it can. This is really important at the moment. If they don’t start before the winter, it’s not just good, but excellent. We will help the republics survive the winter, and there are plenty of things to do in time. In terms of government regulation, fiscal, legal, economic activity. It seems financially untied through Abkhazia (it is clear that this is again the Russian Federation), which is very, no, VERY IMPORTANT. But infa slipped that Donbass in 2015 already in the piggy bank 404 put a pretty penny. I think this is dripping in the first half of the year. Zapadentsy let them scrape so much. Processes are underway. Again, the pension system. 1 people in the manual base in LDNR rescheduled for retirees. And after all, they are not only heroes. All in their places are constantly building a SYSTEM.
          A raven will not peck out a raven's eye, here you are absolutely right.
          PS. maybe not the topic, but speaking of zapadents I see a full, flourishing and majestic small-town mentality. For the sake of interest, I looked at the googlemaps on the town of Kosov, where my godmother lived and went there a couple of times in the 80s. At the councils, the town blossomed. One outdoor sports complex was worth it. 2 (!) Swimming pools, soccer field, jogging tracks. The large pool was with towers, tiles - all things. But there was no water. It is funny and sad at the same time. On the field, except for us guys who lived nearby, I never saw anyone. I was happy! This is when it is still possible to drive the ball on the grass in our north? So here. I did not see the water this time either. I will say more - the pools are FILLED! There are sheds. Looked and regretted it.
      2. Ivan Ivanych
        Ivan Ivanych 6 September 2015 18: 38 New
        +1
        stop hysterics
  32. KGB WATCH YOU
    KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 14: 25 New
    +8
    What we have in the end:
    Since 2006, Purgin at his own expense and on his own risked his life for the idea of ​​the DPR. Pushilin promoted MMM.
    The essence of the replacement is to replace the more or less successful obedient. Since the Minsk shame must be fulfilled, otherwise in the Russian Federation extra. sanctions. And Shuvalov’s property in London has half a billion rubles, and what we don’t know ...
    Now I’m emotional from myself: instead of putting on a person who, to put it mildly, did not welcome the Minsk disgrace (I respect him for that already), an MMM-shchika, a 4-guy who dumped him from the DPR in the summer (when there was a threat to the encirclement of Donetsk), a scoundrel who agrees with Ukrainian "special status"? This is just a disgrace. Are you stoned in the Kremlin or something? They got involved in there so that they could arrange clown mnogohodovochki or help people?
  33. wild
    wild 6 September 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    The cassad has a great article on this subject, read it will be informative.
  34. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 September 2015 15: 00 New
    +6
    What is there with HPP, at what stage, everything that happens within its framework? When will we start defeating everyone? For a long time, supporters have not heard something; no one is explaining the party’s policy. That way people will start to think for themselves, and even can decide something or that. For example, that there is no plan, the GDP is leaked, the sanctions are affecting, and we are not the “energy superpower”, but the territory under the “control” of the oligarchs.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 16: 07 New
      +2
      What is there with HPP, at what stage, everything that happens within its framework? When will we start defeating everyone? For a long time something has not been heard by supporters, no one explains the party’s policies

      They have a new task: to rub everywhere that Russian passports will begin to issue on the stubs of the republics, and soon a referendum on the inclusion of these stubs into the Russian Federation laughing But I think this is a lure for elections under Ukrainian laws (which are recorded in the Minsk betrayal).
      That way people will start to think for themselves, and even can decide something or that. For example, that there is no plan, the GDP is leaked, the sanctions are affecting, and we are not the “energy superpower”, but the territory under the “control” of the oligarchs.

      Yes no, what are you. They will only understand this when "there will be enemy tanks near Moscow," and that is unlikely.
  35. VadimSt
    VadimSt 6 September 2015 15: 14 New
    +1
    Not surprised! And what could be expected if for the entire time of the conflict nothing came out of the “comrade” Purgin, as Chairman of the People’s Council of the DPR, except for general statements. Is the “line of democracy” defined by the insurgent people and its further development should not come primarily from the People’s Council and its Chairman? Has not the first day of the confrontation brought forward the demands of the people about New Russia, about the unification of the DPR and LPR, about the movement towards unification with Russia? What was done for this, by whom and how was it controlled at the level of representatives of the people in power? Yes, not by anyone! However, a similar situation is in the LPR ("tovarisch" Karjakin). There is no nationality, there is a desire to improve their personal material well-being, and everything else is words for "people." I won’t be surprised even if a decision is made to surrender borders and venerate Ukraine as a mother. And Russia, as always, all this "overstocked" at the expense of the people rabble will warm at home! They already now, from the leadership to the field commanders, have "rear and material base" in Russia. They have room to retreat - Moscow is behind!
  36. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 6 September 2015 15: 26 New
    0
    We all understand what is happening. Say no strength. But I want to say, but pricks.
  37. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 September 2015 15: 56 New
    +1
    Do not talk, do not write about terrible alleged options and betrayals. Wait, see what reliable news will come. Because people - all these people are hostages of these intrigues.
    I wanted to quote ALEX NICK ---- it did not work out. ?? Right in front of me.
  38. oldunclejoe
    oldunclejoe 6 September 2015 16: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Leonid1976
    Come on. Everything that happens there is controlled by the Kremlin. But they are very ideological, either perish in senseless attacks or lie in diggings or are closed in forest belts. Well, another version of Betman and Brain. And this ... the struggle between the towers of the Kremlin, for flows, scenarios for influence on the Pope. It seems that while Surkov defeats Volodin.

    The most accurate vision of the situation. By the way, can someone help me, a resident of the LPR, what government issues should be addressed in St. Petersburg?
  39. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 6 September 2015 16: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: oldunclejoe
    Quote: Leonid1976
    Come on. Everything that happens there is controlled by the Kremlin. But they are very ideological, either perish in senseless attacks or lie in diggings or are closed in forest belts. Well, another version of Betman and Brain. And this ... the struggle between the towers of the Kremlin, for flows, scenarios for influence on the Pope. It seems that while Surkov defeats Volodin.

    The most accurate vision of the situation. By the way, can someone help me, a resident of the LPR, what government issues should be addressed in St. Petersburg?

    I am very glad that you wrote. There is a museum of "Novorossiya" Your business came. I wanted to get there today, but it doesn’t add up, only on Wednesday.
  40. oldunclejoe
    oldunclejoe 6 September 2015 16: 24 New
    -1
    Quote: VadimSt
    Not surprised! And what could be expected if for the entire time of the conflict nothing came out of the “comrade” Purgin, as Chairman of the People’s Council of the DPR, except for general statements. Is the “line of democracy” defined by the insurgent people and its further development should not come primarily from the People’s Council and its Chairman? Has not the first day of the confrontation brought forward the demands of the people about New Russia, about the unification of the DPR and LPR, about the movement towards unification with Russia? What was done for this, by whom and how was it controlled at the level of representatives of the people in power? Yes, not by anyone! However, a similar situation is in the LPR ("tovarisch" Karjakin). There is no nationality, there is a desire to improve their personal material well-being, and everything else is words for "people." I won’t be surprised even if a decision is made to surrender borders and venerate Ukraine as a mother. And Russia, as always, all this "overstocked" at the expense of the people rabble will warm at home! They already now, from the leadership to the field commanders, have "rear and material base" in Russia. They have room to retreat - Moscow is behind!

    Of course, I don’t know where the author of "all_proplo_mama !!!" lives, but we can see better what kind of goose was NPR, "betman" (by the way, for those who do not know: the former PPSnik, by virtue of upbringing, education and the mentality that was engaged in what he knew how to - by catching in the city drunken peasants who gape, and by intimidating civilians away from the front line.) The union of LDNR? What for? Two voices are more than one ...
    In general, everything is done right. And the Kremlin is not stupid - we can see from afar!
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 6 September 2015 19: 53 New
      +2
      Who are you talking about? Since a link to me is made at the head of your comment, I will answer.

      1. If about me, so I live in the Lugansk People's Republic!
      2. "Miss_Mom"? Let this be commented on by V. Deiniy, who said the day before - “I don’t think that the restoration of control of the state border by Ukraine will somehow affect our security.” But the demand from Mr. Deyniy, for such reasoning, I think it will be necessary, from those who all this time did not tongue in Minsk, but fought, survived and died on the front lines.
      3. Most of Bednov’s service (Batman) took place in the Lugansk riot police. And most officers pride themselves on starting with patrol officers.
      4. "Two voices more"? And who needs them - those who are used to not tossing bags? Defenders need a man's fist, not the splayed fingers of intellectuals in Minsk!
      5. From far away we know better? This is who "us"? Do you have something?
  41. uizik
    uizik 6 September 2015 16: 31 New
    +3
    Here comes the end of the mess in the Donbass! Someone at the beginning of the events sang praises of the Kremlin’s policy, and who already spoke about the need for decisive action. But they were accused of mortal sins! Only as a result of active and decisive action could victory be won. The people of Ukraine at that time were ready for the arrival of Russian troops. Now the propaganda has done its job, the people have driven the thesis about Russian aggression. And so that someone does not speak, and the Ukrainian army intensifies. Did not calculate their strength? There was no need to get involved in a fight. They stooped to conciliation. My Minsk agreements drove the situation into a dead end. It will be even worse in the future. Maybe I'm wrong? I would like to!
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 6 September 2015 16: 51 New
      +3
      I support you "+"
  42. RiverVV
    RiverVV 6 September 2015 16: 35 New
    +2
    At the end of the day: the reaction of Ukrainians to the news is interesting. There is no single point of view. Some say that Putin put it, while others that on the contrary changed the puppet. But the funny thing is: they are afraid. General refrain: "something will happen and nothing good will shine."
  43. GX1
    GX1 6 September 2015 16: 40 New
    -1
    This regime differs from Kiev only in belonging to the dealers and anti-Nazi chants behind it, nothing more, and the Donetsk people pay for it with blood and poverty.
  44. wild
    wild 6 September 2015 16: 41 New
    +3

    1. Regarding statements about the unconstitutional coup and violation of the rule of law. You guys fell off the moon? In the DPR and LPR, just like in Kiev, the puppet regime has long existed. Some of them depend on Moscow, others on Washington, decisions on changing one or another person either occur on a directive basis, or after serious preliminary consultations, about which on our part the leadership of the republics constantly rolls to Moscow or Rostov, and the Ukrainian "leadership" in Washington, or so as not to strain the hosts, to the American ambassador. This is to better understand the difference between real politics and a fictitious picture in the media.

    4. Regarding the violation of democracy. The short memory of people is striking. We have apparently already forgotten how the previous composition of the Supreme Council was bent under Zakharchenko and Purgin, how the Communists were actually unhooked from the elections, displaced the former speaker Litvinov, squeezed Gubarev out of local politics, not to mention the “Kurghin-style” fight against Strelkov and his supporters in the DPR . Purgin was one of the recipients of these processes along with Pushilin and a number of other persons. It’s just that now the situation has changed and Purgin has become unnecessary and they are being treated with him in the same way as with some figures last fall.

    5. Regarding democracy. As I wrote last year, refusing to wage a decisive battle with the oligarchs “We are not Communists” (c) Boroday, the path of unrecognized formations, this is the path of petty-bourgeois republics, and in war conditions there will be a high desire for authoritarianism. At the same time, the surviving oligarchy (first of all, this is Akhmetov - but remember how much you expressed to me last year, why you wrote about Akhmetov, this Akhmetov surrendered to you) will strive to maintain his influence in the republic. The same Akhmetov was able to push his people to some posts in the DPR and thus protect his interests, which extend both in connection with the protection of his property (which Khodakovsky did), as well as maintaining contacts with Moscow (which last September indicates Borodai led to the rejection of the capture of Mariupol, when it was just necessary to enter the city, since there was only one battalion without heavy weapons), which ensure its political survival.

    7. Regarding the role of Akhmetov, due to the weakening of Khodakovsky’s position and the closure of the MGB to curators, it can hardly be said that Akhmetov would establish control over the republic. Akhmetov’s maximum is a guarantee of property and the possibility of doing business, as well as the existence of a conditional “quota” of their people in government structures of the DPR. This will give him the opportunity to have limited political influence on the processes in the republic, which will ensure the survival of his fairly shrunken business empire. The moment when Akhmetov could be dropped from the boat as the ballast of the past was irretrievably missed.
  45. 31rus
    31rus 6 September 2015 17: 15 New
    +1
    Dear, always put the minuses, but after the Crimea, it’s precisely the policy (you can say left to the mercy) of the Kremlin with regard to the DPR and LPR and Ukraine itself that will lead and will lead to a change of leadership and a change of course, as this is beneficial to interested parties and in the Kremlin and beyond, and what difference does it make you think or what the people of the republics think and want, everything will be as these people decide, and even present as salvation, unfortunately this applies not only to the republics and Ukraine
  46. Patriarh
    Patriarh 6 September 2015 17: 48 New
    0
    Surkov and Volodin clashed through Pushilin and Purgin. In vain. The gun does not know what is at risk.
  47. GraveBezKresta
    GraveBezKresta 6 September 2015 19: 26 New
    0
    While this radish is in the Kremlin. See the article.
  48. Makarov
    Makarov 6 September 2015 20: 16 New
    0
    as soon as they agree on joint patrolling of the border with the Russian Federation with Ukrainian border guards, the republics can be considered in history ... and everything goes to the point that they will agree
  49. maxim.
    maxim. 6 September 2015 20: 27 New
    +1
    Well, in Ukraine, it seemed, they knew that something was going to be prepared in Donetsk ...
    Two weeks ago, they predict a change of power in the DPR:
    http://www.dialog.ua/news/65624_1440611616
    according to them, by the end of this year, Pushilin should replace Zakharchenko.
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 6 September 2015 23: 50 New
      0
      They wrote and dreamed about it!
      By the end of the year, serious adjustments will take place at the top of the DPR terrorists - Denis Pushilin should replace Alexander Zakharchenko, who does not have authority among the inhabitants of the occupied territories of Donetsk region. (http://www.dialog.ua/news/65624_1440611616)
      Only in the DPR and in the LPR the majority will say that it was Zakharchenko who had and still has the greatest authority among the population.
      By the way, in the same source about Pushilin
      “A petty greedy adventurer and a man with no idea other than profit. It drags under itself everything that is bad. Such are useful because sooner or later they make switchmen from them. So it will be with Mr. Pushilin, ”a source who was involved in the creation of the Novorossiya project told Novaya Gazeta.
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