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I want to share one, it would seem, and so obvious life observation. It will be about December 2014 of the year, or rather, about the wild depreciation of the ruble and its general "dumping" by our citizens.

Let me remind you in brief. Around October 2014, the dollar and the euro under various far-fetched pretexts (just do not need sanctions, they have acted for more than one month at that time) suddenly, but gradually accelerating, began to grow. And in the final, on the New Year, currency prices have reached just record heights, the numbers are different, but I personally saw the dollar rate in 80 rubles.

Despite the 2008 crisis of the year, as it turned out, our citizens found quite a bit of savings in December of 2014, which these citizens rushed to spend in a rush, until the savings once again turned to zero. I am not judging people of anything, I only sympathize with them. We all have reinforced concrete grounds for not believing our government when it comes to our personal savings. I will say right away that I was lucky, because at the time of all these events I did not have savings, and there was only a loan.

Prices for goods purchased at the old exchange rates, cunning sellers inflated to the skies. Price tags in stores have not printed, they did not have time to write them.

However, people, hoping to get at least some benefit from their rapidly-zeroing funds, bought up everything.

But further - more interesting. After at least two months of rampant prices and a collapse of the ruble (who thinks that the ruble’s depreciation in relation to world currencies is not a collapse twice, it can no longer be read), our brave power suddenly worried about the “decency” of sellers, and let prices not reduced, but stabilized.

And the people, of course, felt a concern for themselves and exhaled a little bit - well, at least prices do not grow further.

Now let's try to understand what really happened and summarize some of the results.

So, what we have in the bottom line:

1. For reasons that are incomprehensible (to me personally), the ruble exchange rate collapsed twice (rounded up to the whole). Consequently, real wages "fell" at least one and a half times (assuming that we also have something of our own, although since the prices for energy carriers are tied to the world ones, this “our own” also became more expensive). Just in case, I specify: each of us began to earn at least 30% less than before, without good reason.

Once again - I beg you not to drag in sanctions here, the conversations of our government and “business” that the ruble should be devalued have been going on for three years at least, look in the media, you will find. The first “expensive” ruble prevented the budget from executing, the second - driving oil abroad. In general, it seems to me that the sanctions for our government are simply a gift from God, she (the government) has already written off so much for this business and will write off so much more ...

2. In fact, all the savings of citizens of our country were withdrawn from these same citizens for a pinch of tobacco, but at the same time completely voluntarily.

And I do not invent, look at yourself, do you personally, compared with what was a year ago, did you go into savings plus savings?

3. Well, and the worst - the situation is not corrected in any way.

Prices are rising again, the ruble rate is falling again (now the reason is cheap oil, which prevented the ruble from rising when oil became more expensive - a mystery not for my mind), the media report about the failures of attempts to isolate Russia, the quickest shedding of golden rain from China, no less soon the collapse of the United States in particular, and NATO as a whole ... And there’s no end in sight.

I just don’t hear and I don’t see the answer to one question: when will it be better for us, for us, and not for the United States, Europe, and the Middle East?

I do not need hysterics about patriotism, my duty to the motherland, unlike many sofa warriors, I still give up, and I perfectly understand the need for strategic projects, re-equipment and so on. I have a simple question to our government: why did my salary depreciate at least one and a half times?

Answer, servants of the people, how did it happen if you only think about Russia day and night?

We seem to have had a contract with you: we elect you (well, or at least pretend), and you work for the good of the country. Or am I confused? So what kind of benefit is this when people have been deprived of all money and their salaries have been reduced?

After all, what really happened: the state in the person of the Central Bank stopped supporting the ruble, and if budget funds were used for this support, which, excuse me, are not mine, and will never be mine, then this time for real (and at the same time unreal) the price of the ruble was paid by ordinary people.

And look how everything turned out perfectly: the state treasury, carefully preserved in dollars and euros, doubled in ruble value out of the blue; business is good (for exporters it is necessary that their own currency cost nothing); and the authorities are glad, but now they have these rubles to settle with their own people, like shit after a bath. There really is this one, how is it ... well, people, that's what it's called! In general, this people has lost their savings, so it is not the first time, let's say that these are all the machinations of the American imperialists, they will believe where they will go.

In my opinion, it was just a brilliant operation to withdraw money from the population. Under the pretext of various horror stories, people were forced to “voluntarily” give up all their savings and settle for less.

The question arises: why to aggravate the already tense situation? I suppose that so many snouts have already climbed into the great trough called “the state budget”, that there is not enough food for everyone, and it is impossible to cut the snout effectively. Yes, and with food lately interruptions.

At the same time, a rare question to the authorities “And what did you do to prevent this from happening, and who is to blame?” Are instantly buried with accusations of “non-patriotism”.

We are absolutely fair to talk about the hypocrisy of the West, when the ugly debtor state teaches everyone how to live, and at the same time frankly robs everyone, and the rest pretend that everything is as it should be, we blame them for cowardice, inability to honestly and objectively evaluate everything that happens. And what are we better? Yes, our own power has done exactly the same to us! And now, with our own hands, we stop any criticism in our address. After all, any vote is not in favor of our government a priori bought by the West.

As they are saying now: “It’s not time to figure out now how it happened and who is to blame - now we need to do something!” Well done! And why should they understand how it happened and who is to blame, if they already know it: just look in the mirror!

During the times of I. V. Stalin, who was truly respected by me, if someone had done something wrong, then it would be something SOMETHING would be done by ANOTHER person. And with the first one, there would be a lot of time, effort and resources to figure out: why NOT SO and WHO IS GUILTY.

But this, as our government says, is not our method. With such methods, we are sorry, and we will come to executions, and how then to steal? In a sense, the welfare of the people to take care? No, no, we are not China, and we are not the USSR ...

I do not know the true reasons why the Central Bank decided to buy people off, but I know that this is unacceptable. In fact, we again experienced the 1998 default of the year, only in slightly smaller volumes - then the dollar did not grow two, but three times, I still remember well how it was.

I do not in any way call for overthrow, revolution, Maidan - any such “action” will lead to the complete loss of the country. Those Americans will not miss this chance, as it was in the nineties.

I urge, first of all, the authorities to recall their obligations and, in the end, to start working for the benefit of the people and the country. It is time to cease to be celestials and realize that we live in a world in which even an unintended error will immediately be used by real-life enemies. It's time to start living in a new way: the official must “plow”, not “be.” Responsibility for an official should be several times higher and inevitable than for an ordinary person.

But this requires the will of the same government, we need a really working justice system, we need a government idea! And what about us?

And we have one of the first laws - on the immunity of "lawmakers". Taburetkin and Krasnotapochkin are actually victims of prosecutorial arbitrariness (I personally spit at all this farce), but I personally have never heard anything concrete about the state idea, even from the first person of the state, except for declarative statements.

Personally, I am not an agent of the CIA and all other intelligence services, I don’t receive grants from anyone, I consider myself a patriot and hate all our home-grown liberal burglary and thieves (as, however, not ours either), but I leave my the right to ask those who call themselves "servants of the people." What did they do to make our country and our people better off?

In my opinion, as long as it turns out somehow not very, I will say frankly - it turns out only worse.
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  1. -35
    8 September 2015 06: 10
    “And there is no need for hysterics about patriotism, my duty to the Motherland, unlike many couch warriors, I still pay, and I perfectly understand the need for strategic projects, rearmament, and so on. I have a simple question for our government: why my earnings have depreciated at least one and a half times?" - You are not repaying the author's debt, but apparently you earn money, and these are two different concepts ...
    1. +54
      8 September 2015 06: 30
      So what, now you can serve for free? Even in the Second World War, fighters received cash allowance. The question is different: why our leaders do not move the horn and allow such blunders and theft, which must be judged as treason!
      1. +21
        8 September 2015 06: 49
        I agree completely! Only there is one subtle point - in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there are no (apparently specially) articles similar to the very 53. That is, there are no enemies of the people and never happens, but everything was done out of meagerness or because of unprofessionalism. Something like this. And it turns out there is no one to judge for anything. It's a pity....
        1. +18
          8 September 2015 08: 41
          Quote: Mitrich76
          in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there are no (apparently specially) articles similar to that same 53. That is, there are no and never are enemies of the people

          Today I know for sure: there are enemies of the people! And I can name their names, addresses, place of work ... tell biographies ...
          The vast majority of, say, VO site visitors can do this too, and much better than me ...
        2. +9
          8 September 2015 10: 23
          Quote: Mitrich76
          I agree completely! Only there is one subtle point - in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there are no (apparently specially) articles similar to the very 53. That is, there are no enemies of the people and never happens, but everything was done out of meagerness or because of unprofessionalism. Something like this. And it turns out there is no one to judge for anything. It's a pity....

          Well, yes, when a thief writes laws for himself, then this is certainly not from poverty and lack of professionalism. In my opinion, this is just the Kremlin’s high strategy.
        3. +6
          8 September 2015 13: 39
          Quote: Mitrich76
          in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there are no (apparently specially) articles similar to that same 53.

          Then we would have no government in a week.
      2. +16
        8 September 2015 07: 12
        Quote from Uncle Lee
        allow such blunders and theft, for which it is necessary to judge as a betrayal of the homeland!

        The term "Motherland" is inappropriate in relation to the liberal government, they do not believe that "Motherland" can mean anything in the life of a thief and robber who has made his way into power, and at the same time is completely devoid of a sense of PERSONAL responsibility to the country and people.
        1. +23
          8 September 2015 08: 41
          How long can you ask about why and why, and is it not easier to look into our Constitution and clarify, and who actually owns the Central Bank and everything will immediately fall into place! We were once again robbed by the US Federal Reserve, which is the actual owner of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, and Nabiulina and others like her are just a colonial administration appointed by financial masters! What is it about, if all finances in the Russian Federation are managed from overseas! And the most striking example of this is the financial support of "our" banks of the Kiev junta! And do you want them to support our people, which they have always considered their enemy ?! As long as the Constitution, imposed on us by "not quite partners" and our liberal-alcoholic traitors, is in effect, the pockets of our citizens will be periodically "cleaned"! The abolition of the old and the development of a new Basic Law is the main task of strengthening the sovereignty and well-being of the country and the people ! Liberals to be held accountable for betraying the interests of Russia and its people!
          1. -3
            8 September 2015 19: 26
            kartalovkolya

            The author wrote so many words, and Kolya’s quarters formed in 3 lines.

            And he truly said. And he gave the answer.

            And at the expense of riots. So this is pointless.

            Remember who raised the riots in the Middle Ages. Or bandits from the road. Oleksa Dovbush and Pugachev. Or small entrepreneurs Minin and Pozharsky. Both of them had initial capital.

            And in modern times, even initial capital is useless, since launching a PR campaign will not work. All media are controlled.
          2. -1
            9 September 2015 00: 32
            Quote: kartalovkolya
            but isn’t it easier to look into our Constitution and clarify who the Central Bank really belongs to and everything will immediately fall into place!
            Why haven’t you looked into it yet?

            75.1. Currency in Russian Federation (1.1. Russian Federation - Russia Yes democratic federal legal state with the republican form of government. 1.2. Names Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent) is the ruble. Money emission is carried out exclusively Central bank Russian Federation. The introduction and issue of other money in the Russian Federation is not allowed.

            2. Protection and ensuring the stability of the ruble - the main function Central bank Russian Federation, which he carries out independently from others bodies of state power.

            and Nabiulina and others like her is just a colonial administration appointed by the financial owners!
            laughing

            Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of June 24.06.2013, 570 No. XNUMX "On E. Nabiullina"

            1. To dismiss Nabiullina Elvira Sakhipzadovna from the position of Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation from June 24, 2013 due to the appointment of the Chairman of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
            2. This Decree comes into force from the date of its signing.

            President of the Russian Federation V.Putin

            Moscow, Kremlin on June 24, 2013 N 570

            As long as the Constitution is imposed on us
            Who made you vote for it in 1993 - aliens probably?

            The abolition of the old and the development of a new Basic Law is the main task
            And what do you propose to write in the new?

            Judging by the nonsense that you wrote in the comments - nothing good for the people.
        2. 0
          8 September 2015 21: 31
          The term "MOTHERLAND" for them is where you can grab money. And it doesn't matter where.
      3. +14
        8 September 2015 10: 21
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        why our leaders do not move the horn and allow such blunders and theft, which must be judged as treason to the motherland!

        Or maybe these same "our leaders" from budget bins regularly pour into their bins, shouting at the same time to the People, "Don't you dare rock the boat!", "Be quiet! They wanted Maidan, like in Ukraine!"
        I’m sure that this is exactly what happens.
      4. -12
        8 September 2015 13: 21
        The question is different: why our leaders do not move the horn and allow such blunders and theft, which must be judged as treason!


        Well, if you're so smart, what are you only writing about this on the site. They moved the horn and let the ruble cost 10 bucks, which is easier. A pi. . it is necessary to rejoice about it on other sites. And then Military Review in some kind of popi. . business turns.
        1. +11
          8 September 2015 15: 46
          Quote: user
          Well if you are so smart

          I do not have the status that the ruble would cost $ 10 from wiggling the horn! And you sir, apparently they did not teach that you should turn to strangers using "YOU".
      5. 0
        10 September 2015 10: 01
        And here it is very simple. Our beloved government is that very fifth column. You will search the Internet for an interview with the cleverest person, Valentin Yurievich Katasonov. He explains everything very sensibly.
    2. +3
      8 September 2015 06: 32
      Often I communicate with those who give a debt to their homeland all their lives, namely with contract officers. They do not complain much. I would say even satisfied. He himself would have stayed there but health has not allowed. Well, earnings depend on yourself; you want to live; know how to spin. You want a good life, good twirl. Himself during this crisis was left without work. I’ve mastered nothing for myself in a related specialty, I’m getting denyuzhk now and in the main specialty I found a job with sn 1.5 times more than the previous one. And to whine on the couch as everything is bad for example not for me.
      1. +26
        8 September 2015 08: 23
        You can’t blame the author for nagging.
        It spins, you spin, I spin ... The law of capitalism - if you want to live - know how to spin. Everyone who wants to somehow live is spinning like a snake in a pan.
        Only all this spinning is contrary, and not because ...
        And the authorities, as the people stood by the train, never even tried to turn around. One talking room, but in fact everything is exactly the opposite. To call her to prudence, as the author naively does, is useless. It’s like pulling a jerk off a geek. It is necessary to completely change the management system and rewrite laws that allow authorities to rob people and DO NOT RESPOND FOR ANYTHING! Don’t work like that - blow out your cheeks and let dust in your eyes, and if that doesn’t work, you’ll go for a raise. At least one high-ranking official was thrown out into the street? That's it!
        And the questions in the article are correct and timely. And the authorities will have to answer them sooner or later.
        1. +13
          8 September 2015 08: 48
          Quote: Volzhanin
          And the authorities, as the people stood by the train, never even tried to turn around.

          ... for example, about the birds; in the sense of sanctions ...
          How many people know that at the initiative of the United States in 2013-2014 the accounts of our, Russian - not only oligarchs, but also government officials were frozen in foreign banks! The trouble ...
          It is monolithic, as a single person (individual!) Having voted for this decision, the state in the person of (persons ...) compensated for the loss in currency to these victims - in rubles, at the exchange rate ...
      2. +9
        8 September 2015 08: 48
        Yeah, do you want the state to consist of "nimble" ones, so that the dream of schoolchildren is to become a "banker" or "oligarch"? People want to work honestly and get decent money for their work. And not a pension pr 8 thousand. So they are spinning in the gardens of half the country planting potatoes and closing banks ...
      3. +13
        8 September 2015 10: 35
        Quote: kebeskin
        You want a good life, good twirl. Himself during this crisis was left without work. I’ve mastered nothing for myself in a related specialty, I’m getting denyuzhk now and in my main specialty I found a job with sn in 1.5 times the previous one. And whining on the couch like everything is bad, for example, is not for me.

        It’s good that you turn around and get out; others, too, turn and get out, as they can; others, due to illness or age, cannot turn around so well and die in poverty.
        And now you have a direct question: if we all return, as we can, and survive in spite of ... then we must also contain such a parasitic superstructure as the current government, the content of which takes many trillions. And this is the money that we, workers, earn and which we take from our children, from pensioners.
        Maybe it’s time for us to start building a much more effective government, which will not rob us, but work for the common good
        1. -1
          8 September 2015 12: 56
          Quote: Polar
          Maybe it’s time for us to start building a much more effective government, which will not rob us, but work for the common good

          It's time, it's time .. and without "would" .. explain only clearly, what to do.

          And so this is all - "it would be nice, it would be nice for us to catch a big walrus" (c)

          PS: nothing personal.
    3. +6
      8 September 2015 09: 40
      Quote: 205577
      It seemed to us like a contract with you: we are electing you (well, or at least pretending to be), and you are working for the good of the country. Or am I confused something ?.

      You didn’t mix anything up, you yourself answered your own question.
      You elect them (well, or pretend that you elect them), they work for the good of the country (well, or pretend that they work for the good of the country, not your own).
      hi
    4. -12
      8 September 2015 15: 29
      Maybe because the war is on? Or did all the patriotism in the T-shirt with Krymnash remain? If someone thought that the confrontation with NATO is an easy walk and it does not affect the standard of living of the population in any way - he d-b-and-l! So far, the contribution of the population to the war has been limited to part of the savings — moreover, no one died and did not slide into poverty. The state and prices restrained from multiple increases and utilities and travel rose exactly as much as every year they grow. Perhaps tomorrow there will be a mobilization and those who were worried that Volvo had risen in price would be glad that they received a new armor and a shape in size. Or maybe the day after tomorrow in the ruins of his house will be equipped with a firing point. Who knows. In general, if everything is limited only to such a small drop in the standard of living, then Putin can be canonized, and we assume that we are very lucky. Well, for those who ache that his salary has subsided, I advise you to watch a video from Debaltseve or last year's Lugansk. Maybe the brains will fall into place. Personally, I believe that the Russian Federation will come out of this confrontation much stronger than it entered into it. At least what I see allows us to hope so.
      1. +4
        8 September 2015 17: 21
        You repeated word-for-word the next news release.
        That’s what I wrote about.
        In addition to the slogans do you have your own thoughts?
        Have you ever been embarrassed that there will always be an external enemy or natural circumstances for any of our problems, but will the authorities never blame themselves?
        The first example that came across. Forests are burning in Siberia, perhaps billions are already being spent on extinguishing, and I remember very well how years ago 6-8 all forestries shouted loudly that they were being cut, that this would lead to incomparable losses from illegal logging, poaching, and the same fires . And what, who is responsible for such damage - no one. And all this was promoted by Medvedev.
        Or here. Please tell me that the governor of Sakhalin, for tens of millions of pens, bought this, too, the machinations of enemies?
        You get another bugbear, under which once again you will be robbed, but apparently it suits you.
        Well, well, because you will be called a true patriot (who dares to criticize the authorities either not a patriot or not true), they will say that once again it is necessary to tolerate for the sake of some Great Goal, which you have not even voiced (here's a laugh), but some regular Chubais, not a little embarrassed by sanctions, the economic war and other really existing troubles, will head another RAO of the EU, Nanotechnology and put in your pocket your next ruble, not even budgetary, but saved to you.
        1. -5
          8 September 2015 17: 47
          I’ll tell you a secret. I haven’t been watching TV for 10 years, only football sometimes, what’s there they say you better know. I didn’t notice the slogans in my comment, but you can think whatever you want - democracy. But the slogan that all that the authorities say is a lie, I remember well from the 80s. And the consequences of the fight against censorship and Kremlin propaganda too - minus 40 percent of the population and a third of the territory. YOU LIKE TO THINK THAT TOUCH LEFT FROM RUSSIA TOO LOT AND IN THE 80S YOU WAS UNFABORED. For those who are especially smart, I’ll explain - in the yard, for what the population of the USSR sold their homeland - magical capitalism and capitalist laws in it. If you do not like this, then you might have thought in the 80s, and not shouted about freedom, publicity and capitalism in the West. This is it. Now you are trying to repeat the same thing having forgotten the last lesson, but I hope the authorities are strong enough now to shut you up at least now and not to let you ruin what remains. Well, about the pens for millions of rubles, so I will tell you a terrible secret. People go to power first of all, in order to get settled in life, earn money, respect, etc. And the higher he rises, the more expensive his car is. The spines are no more common than oases in the desert. And this is life, not the picture you invented. Are you jealous? For God's sake - break into power yourself.
          1. +1
            8 September 2015 23: 27
            Quote: g1v2
            People go to power first of all, in order to get settled in life, to earn money
            Aha
            Quote: g1v2
            respect and so on
            I would note, however, that "respect" is nothing to do with it, right?

            Quote: g1v2
            I will reveal the secret

            This secret has long been known ..
        2. +1
          9 September 2015 00: 58
          Quote: 205577
          and I remember very well how about 6-8 years ago all forestries shouted loudly that they were being cut, that this would lead to incomparable losses from illegal logging, poaching, and the same fires. And what, who is responsible for such damage - no one. And all this was promoted by Medvedev.
          Exactly - Medvedev is just a concentration of infernal evil laughing

          Forest protection was abolished by Federal Laws N 200-FZ of November 24 2006 years (Forest Code) and N 201-ФЗ from 24 November 2006 of the year "On the introduction of the Forest Code of the Russian Federation".

          What is the name of the post of a person without whose signature not a single law in the Russian Federation comes into force, and who held this position in 2006 need to be reminded?
      2. -2
        8 September 2015 21: 34
        The conversation is not about that .... Russia will become stronger. The people are poorer. And "some of the people" became billionaires. That's the whole alignment.
      3. -3
        9 September 2015 00: 39
        And where are the hundred pluses to put?

        Children (dance), and yet prada - the country in which you live, is already at war .. and you are concerned about loans there ...

        Phe ..
    5. Platon Mironov
      0
      9 September 2015 13: 31
      It would be interesting to see how you would repay your debt if you had not been added to your salary, at least you had to hold your salary for a long time, or you would not pay it at all ??? Do not confuse wage labor for your existence with a civil duty and love for the motherland !!!
  2. -9
    8 September 2015 06: 19
    Feuilleton from the press of the 70s!
    1. +7
      8 September 2015 09: 44
      Quote: Tol100v
      Feuilleton from the press of the 70s!

      Why feuilleton? In my opinion, this is so true. I can add some points. Why have the ruble stopped supporting? And there is nothing to support it. It is enough to look at the structure of gold reserves in order to understand this. 360 billion dollars, there have been fluctuations near this figure recently. 12% monetary gold, we sweep it right away, because you won’t throw it quickly. Further, the national welfare fund and the reserve fund (for the patriots they are part of the gold reserves) you also will not spend, for other purposes, the Central Bank has illiquid assets that quickly you can’t realize it. Operatively, the Central Bank can use the sum of about 90-100 billion, which is a maximum of six months of support at current oil prices, then collapse.
      In terms of exchange rate and budget: even with such a ruble exchange rate, the budget is still deficit, the deficit in July is 1 trillion 200 billion rubles. What will happen by the end of the year? I don’t know, we’ll pass over 2 trillion for sure. No wonder there is talk of withdrawing money from non-state pension funds to cover the budget deficit.
      1. +4
        8 September 2015 17: 56
        and who brought to such a state? Again the authorities. You can develop your domestic ruble market for a long time. No, everyone until the last lived on Western loans. Simple and cheap, but when it came time to pay, everyone was crap. Last year, the collapse of the ruble completely arranged the Central Bank.
        So you do not have a question? why, for example, do much less petroleum-dependent states like Saudi Arabia or even Norway do not lose their local currency? True, the Arabs this year entered the loan market, since their ZVZ began to decline sharply, but still. Indeed, last year the trading volumes were rather miserable and there would be no particular problem keeping the ruble.
        But this is what. More recently, when the ruble began to fail again, every day showing record breaks, at the same time Putin rewarded Naebullin with some garbage for a reasonable monetary policy and, like, for strengthening the ruble. And all this is shown on TV, through the line ...
        Although last year the Central Bank raped and punished some idiots. Unfortunately, these are not individuals, but banks and some other similar structures that live by speculation.
  3. +3
    8 September 2015 06: 29
    I'm happy. Not any savings. Only a loan. Only real salaries fell 4 times. Salaries fell 2 times and prices rose 2 times.
    1. -1
      8 September 2015 07: 15
      Quote: aleks700
      I'm happy. Not any savings.

      Happy in poverty !?
      Go on ... laughing
      1. +7
        8 September 2015 07: 26
        Of course! After all, the savings are not lost!
      2. -1
        8 September 2015 14: 51
        Quote: hydrox
        Quote: aleks700
        I'm happy. Not any savings.

        Happy in poverty !?
        Go on ... laughing

        Dreaming get rich?
        ...or want to?
        ...or "working on it"?
        ...or "they are working to make you ..."
        ...or?...
        ... have decided?
        PS There is an easy way, it is described in the Gospel: “I will give you power over all these kingdoms and their glory, for it is devoted to me, and I, to whom I want, give it; therefore, if You bow to me, then everything will be Yours ”(Luke 4: 6-7)
        - or, according to other translations: "Come to me, into my power and under my hand, and all the riches of the world will be yours" ...
        ... "The temptation of Christ in the wilderness" (temptation by Faith)
        ... Many took advantage; others are getting ready!
    2. -1
      8 September 2015 12: 39
      Happy, hmm. Wait for the moment when the bullies come to you and "ask" to return the favor. Only after, in the hospital, do not talk about the bad, but continue to be "happy".
      1. +1
        8 September 2015 14: 06
        With a concussion? Extremely happy! In general, the bulls can become happy with a concussion. laughing
  4. +23
    8 September 2015 06: 31
    You, smoke stupidity write. The serviceman should be provided to the maximum, and not lose part of the monetary allowance, it is not clear why, due to unprofessional, and even criminal actions of officials from the Ministry of Finance, the Central Bank, etc. And the author asks the questions completely correct! There should be a state for the people, and not vice versa as ours.
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  5. +7
    8 September 2015 06: 44
    "... The first" expensive "ruble interfered with the budget execution"

    So you yourself answered the question why it happened, oil prices crawled down, there was a hole in the budget, and you found a way to fulfill the budget by depreciating the ruble, then you turned the budget over to the oil price of $ 50 per barrel
  6. +11
    8 September 2015 06: 54
    The article is very correct, but those who are in power minus themselves and think only about their own welfare, and not about the people. And the so-called servants, and officials and deputies in general, "think" so to speak about the people only during the elections. And in theory it is time to put the question to the president whether, and moreover, in such a quantity, these servants are parasites, whose efficiency is ZERO?
    1. +9
      8 September 2015 07: 21
      Quote: pravednik
      The efficiency of which is equal to zero

      Their efficiency for you and me goes with a minus sign - do not forget that they are still sawing, rolling back and stealing, while receiving a healthy salary with a social package that we never dream of, and going to the "special pension" (which is one and a half times higher than ours, other things being equal): these are the concepts of liberals in power ...
    2. -10
      8 September 2015 08: 57
      I would pass, but - I will refrain ...
      The article is very correct. Yes, nevermind! ...
      And who minus himself in power and thinks only of his welfare Нет!
      to raise the question with the president, is it necessary, moreover, in such a quantity, in general, these parasite-parasites, whose work efficiency is ZERO?
      "... but try this! And in general - you are entrusted with an operation - take the initiative into your own hands! ..." - an inaccurate quote from the "Diamond Hand" ...
      ... Become a President - at least in a "business game" for schoolchildren in grades 7-8! and see what happens - in the game, not in life, thank God ...
      I tried, played ... which I DO NOT wish for!
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      2. +10
        8 September 2015 12: 28
        Quote: CONTROL
        I tried, played ... which I DO NOT wish for!

        At night in the country.

        Putin:
        Good evening, you need to resolve the issue. Rosneft needs to pay off its bonds for crazy thousands of ye, there is no liquidity, Elvira, right? What are the suggestions?

        Nabiulina:
        Yes, now finding a currency is a problem, many corporations close the year, pay Eurobonds, the currency is priced, foreign markets are closed, there is no currency liquidity
        :(

        Putin:
        Igor, didn’t you pay off before?

        Sechin:
        Yes, damn it, who knew then .., Elvira dulled, did not beacon in time.

        Nabiulina:
        Well .., to predict the consequences of our wise geopolitics is very difficult ..

        Gref:
        Ty Yudaev, a macroeconomist, had to foresee and calculate!

        Putin:
        In short, colleagues, I'm listening to suggestions.

        Sechin:
        In general, the scheme is this: we issue bonds, German and Andrei buy everything up, and then they repeat it with the Elvirs, the grandmas received are convertible in ye. Profit

        Putin:
        How will this affect the course?

        Kostin:
        Sucks. But, technically, no one has anything to do with it, all the speculators are damned. In the media, we are indignant: the Americans strangle the country, rising from its knees. Then Sasha (Tkachev) will throw, they say the Crimean need to beat off, bear with it, the Imperials. Break through, short.

        Putin:
        Elvira?

        Nabiulina:
        Frostbite. Raise the bet, such as the fight against speculators.

        Sechin:
        Elvira, current after the deal, not before, ok?

        Shuvalov, Gref:
        Yes, she understood!

        Putin:
        OK. So let's do it. If, at the peak, we will announce Yudaev with salt and loudly, anyway she does not know how to deal with macroeconomics, and we’ll just troll Elvira.

        Sechin:
        Can we salt? Yudaeva will not get off, I'm afraid :(

        Putin:
        No, you can’t merge, we’ll try to panic, we will sign our own stupidity.

        Dima, damn it, wake up!

        Medvedev:
        Who is there?!
    3. +3
      8 September 2015 12: 42
      So our "guarantor" of these bad guys at every meeting praises the Central Bank and the "government" and the governors. What question will you put before him?
      1. +2
        8 September 2015 15: 07
        Quote: Stroporez
        Sling cutter

        Stroporez my applause. Gone. laughing good
  7. +13
    8 September 2015 07: 10
    In my opinion, a brilliant operation was carried out to seize money from the population.

    it is held so regularly that everyone with a memory not for 30 seconds holds in the currency.
    The daily operation to take money from the population is lending to this population at insane interest rates.
    1. +4
      8 September 2015 08: 54
      Banks, this is a great Evil! We all owe to banks and our descendants will be debtors .. In the social community there was a Court without interest .. Yes, and a neighbor could intercept four pay-offs ..
      1. +4
        8 September 2015 10: 57
        Quote: Bekas1967
        We all owe to banks and our descendants will be debtors

        Speak for yourself when you say such things (c)

        I, as an example, owe nothing to any bank. And I will not. Because there are two different lifestyles:

        - "I want this now" - then march to the bank for a loan
        - "I live within my means" - and you don't need a bank. True, there are fewer sweets in my pocket ... but my head does not hurt for loans

        Somehow Yes
        1. +1
          8 September 2015 13: 41
          Exactly! Yes
    2. +4
      8 September 2015 09: 42
      Yesterday they offered a loan at Alfa Bank for 2 years at 40% .... I almost oh ... L. So, hurry up, and offers are limited)) The organization where I work sells products for euros, and to increase the salary to employees Horseradish all over the face. The prices in the store are more fun and more fun. Well, maybe it’s for the better, even though I will throw off the weight and drink beer with less prices)
  8. +3
    8 September 2015 07: 15
    I suppose that so many snouts have already climbed into the great feeding trough called the "state budget" that there isn’t enough food for everyone, but it is not possible to effectively reduce the snout. And with the feed lately interruptions. MAGNIFICENTLY SAID, HERE IS BEAUTY AND GREATNESS OF THE OLIGARCHIC VERTICAL VERTICAL OF KNOWLEDGE, kiss on w ... pu GDP and EdRo ..... and life will be sweet .................
  9. +1
    8 September 2015 07: 29
    An article at the level of child's logic: "Mom didn't buy me a toy. Mom is bad!"

    Look at the picture. There is everything for understanding the processes. Back in June last year, oil was $ 115. The course is only a consequence, not a cause.
    1. mihasik
      +12
      8 September 2015 07: 58
      It follows from this graph that we have no real economy, since, according to the authorities, we are dependent on the oil price. That is, with 9% of GDP from oil revenues, we subsist on taxes from this 9%. The remaining 91% of GDP is worthless "dung". Did everyone believe?
      But the point is not even that the ruble has depreciated, but that our "producers" have adjusted prices to the dollar!
      1. +1
        8 September 2015 08: 21
        "That is, with 9% of GDP from oil revenues, we subsist on taxes from that 9%. The remaining 91% of GDP is worthless" dung. "

        In my opinion, you are arguing incorrectly. GDP has absolutely nothing to do with it.

        My logic is this. There is a ruble that OUR power can control. There is a currency that she cannot control. This is the mechanism of someone else's power. The decline in oil prices in the world has led to the fact that the influx of currency into the country has decreased. In addition to oil prices, the gas prices tied to it have also declined. Plus the inability to refinance in foreign currency, plus the inability to take new loans. The result is a decrease in foreign currency inflows into the country. But, a balance of inflow and outflow is necessary. Those. it is necessary to reduce the outflow. And here, the course is practically the only lever. They raised the course - someone did not buy a foreign car - the currency remained in Russia. Someone did not go to rest abroad - the currency remained in Russia. It became unprofitable for guest workers to come to Russia to work, and the export of foreign currency decreased. And a ton of other examples. Most importantly, the outflow of currency from the country decreased.

        And the movement of currency across the border should remain balanced. Otherwise, first the exhaustion of gold reserves, then the country's transition to the external management of creditors. This is clearly seen in the current situation in Ukraine.

        Those. rate appreciation is the choice between bad and worse. And it can not depend only on the decisions of our government. Therefore, GDP has nothing to do with it. Inland you can to govern, and external debts can only service.
        1. +4
          8 September 2015 09: 13
          Quote: Cube123
          There is a ruble that OUR power can control. There is a currency that she cannot control. This is the mechanism of someone else's power.

          Those. rate appreciation is the choice between bad and worse. And it can not depend only on the decisions of our government. Therefore, GDP has nothing to do with it. Inland you can to govern, and external debts can only service.

          ... at my funeral, and the vampires gathered! ...
          ..................
          ... and the most powerful ghoul squeezed everything in and stuck it in,
          and rammed it tightly, spit the nozzles from the strain,
          and the yellow fang sticking out ... (C) (V.S. Vysotsky)
          What's next, don’t you remember? ...
          It really "fits the situation" ...
        2. mihasik
          +11
          8 September 2015 09: 45
          Quote: Cube123
          Most importantly, the outflow of currency from the country decreased.

          And what have the prices of "domestic" producers to do with it?
          If we have an economy with a production base, then we make "our" goods from "our" raw materials, which, with a cheap ruble, by definition, should be cheaper than imported ones. At the same time, the currency remains as you say within the country. And if it does not exist, then the raw materials are forced to buy for currency in China, in order to produce an allegedly "domestic" product. So there is this economy, if there is no raw materials, materials and production facilities for their manufacture? Maybe this is not enough currency? The price of oil has fallen, so everything is bad?)
          The second factor! Interview with our juice producer (I don’t remember my last name):
          Host: Why are prices rising for our products?
          Manufacturer: By the fact that there is demand for goods. Sense to do cheaper?
          Ohrinny logic! They removed competitors in the face of foreigners, and adjusted prices to the new dollar rate! What? They will take where they go! Do you remember the deficit in the USSR? Here is their logic! What are we? We take and enjoy "import substitution" with wild prices!
          And most importantly, it is beneficial to the government, since with a larger amount - more tax! Everyone is good, except for the consumer.
          If our Government cannot cope with this anarchy in the economy, it should resign, and not sit out fifth points and not engage in outright robbery of the population. But we don’t give up our?) After all, right?
        3. Erg
          +5
          8 September 2015 10: 45
          Cube. Your mistake is that the country CANNOT manage the ruble. It is difficult to comment on you. You can’t see the forests behind the trees. I’m reading you - I’m watching TV ... Regards.
          1. +1
            8 September 2015 14: 10
            Quote: Erg
            Cube. Your mistake is that the country CANNOT manage the ruble. It is difficult to comment on you. You can’t see the forests behind the trees. I’m reading you - I’m watching TV ... Regards.

            Maybe we just imagine this forest in different ways drinks
            Regarding "CAN'T" - I strongly disagree. You will tell me about the Central Bank and the currency board system. They say this does not allow to manage the ruble. In reality, a country can manage the ruble at the same rate. If we omit the ruble, we have the right to print more rubles. Raised - are obliged to withdraw some of the rubles from circulation.
            By the way, this is one more reason why the gold reserves cannot be fired. As they decrease, it will be necessary to withdraw rubles from circulation. I think you understand what consequences this will lead to. smile Yours!
        4. +4
          8 September 2015 18: 17
          Do not forget that 9% of GDP gives 45 percent of budget revenue. For example, Rosatom, representing 5% of Russia's GDP, gives 0,000 ... percent of budget revenue. (If I'm not mistaken, one or two-day budget revenue from the total)
          But I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about something else. Why, in more oil-dependent countries, the currency does not fall. Okay, the Saudis, they have already climbed to borrow money from foreign markets, but they are holding their course. And Norway ... She is all head over heels in debt and also decently sits on a raw needle ... and nothing ... is served.
          External factors are certainly understandable, but the main problem is the brain. There are not many brains in our power. In reality, of course, there are smart people who can pull the situation, but in the majority there is one swamp. Especially those who are in sight. You can search for interest on the Internet, for example, statements regarding oil prices and last summer’s exchange rate for Siluyanov’s comrades Sechin or Dimon and all the others who speculate on exchanges. The forecasts came true only for those who constantly say the same thing that oil prices will fall and the ruble will collapse. But from what they say and always said, it is time that at least once they should have guessed. (Well, like a standing clock, which twice a day correctly shows the time) But this is also not from a great mind.
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      3. +1
        8 September 2015 12: 16
        that we do not have a real economy


        Is she there? Russia is hydrocarbons plus the military-industrial complex. The rest are pleasant exceptions. Sex of my business life worked abroad, and was always struck by the contrast of the exterior of the countries. We will not take examples of any Scandinavia with France, or completely alien China, Poland alone is enough, where along the roads you see cattle grazing, well-groomed fields, greenhouses, on one even the inscription was that kiwis are grown and sold. The sea of ​​all kinds of factories and workshops. With all this, the people are completely not rich. They live very modestly, working hard and hung with different sizes of loans. The exterior of Russian roads is striking in its wildness. According to the author, I understand that the Polish authorities are incomparable with the Russian authorities and are better related to their people?

        But the dialectic of the issue is sour, in no country in the world where I have been able to visit people do not hope for power. Everywhere, rapid economic recovery occurs where the economy is inflated with credit. The more competent the management of credit history, the longer this rise will take, but the result is the same, a crisis. Debt crisis. Russia was artificially brought into a state of debt crisis, disconnecting from the borrowing system and reducing the price of energy resources, limited foreign exchange earnings. Only a person with sick bile can seek out a way to enrich those in power in this scheme. It's simple, the country has declared an economic war. She is at war. And of course it is not officials and bankers who are fighting, all citizens are fighting, each with his own losses. One loses diamonds in this war, the other loses meat in soup. War is like war. The only thing is that alarmists, provocateurs, "paid well-wishers" and ordinary fools, in this war, are not taken to the depths of Siberian ores to wave a pick, they are not shot at dead ends.
        1. +4
          8 September 2015 12: 52
          One can feel how Shuvalov and his comrades are losing diamonds. Even around the corner a heap is lying around. And the secretary of the guarantor loses hours for 35 million rubles.
        2. Platon Mironov
          0
          9 September 2015 09: 32
          One of the basic rules of war is to supply the army. Before any battle, it is primarily won by the quartermasters who establish the supply of equipment, ammunition, fuel and food to the army. If, in your words, all citizens are fighting, each with their own losses, then what is our commissary service doing (Government and President) ??? If a war is going on in your words, then again the people are waging it without the help of the state at the expense of their means and expenses, and this is a guerrilla war !!! The Government and the President do not experience the hardships and deprivations of this war.
    2. +3
      8 September 2015 13: 48
      And let the rest of our lives whine about cheap oil.
      Stalin did not ache, and the ruble was the ruble. I’ll be silent about tsarist times. And we are only fed with promises that the economy should move away from raw material dependence. What kind of economy? First you need to create it. While we consider in dollars all the netting will not be of any use.
      And to look at the pictures, study the ratings ... In order to stay at the feeder, we have power not only noodles, but also caviar (eggplant smile ) will be spread on the ears.
  10. +2
    8 September 2015 08: 24
    In Russia, it is generally dangerous to save more than 5 years. Either inflation will gobble up, or what thread the crisis is, and we have it just every 5-10 years. And banks will not protect our funds from inflation, well, if only they can compensate for the losses.
    1. +1
      8 September 2015 09: 49
      With us, if you save, it is only in the currency. Deposits at 13% per annum are generally nothing. Even inflation is not compensated.
    2. +1
      8 September 2015 20: 17
      Quote: norgees
      In Russia, it is generally dangerous to save more than 5 years. Either inflation will gobble up, or what thread the crisis ........

      - if we lived on a separate planet, then your wording would be absolutely accurately stated! But, in that world where we live, the place of action of this law should be expanded.
      And the author could wider and further examine the world around him.
  11. +4
    8 September 2015 08: 32
    Irresponsibility and impunity can ruin any state!
  12. +10
    8 September 2015 08: 40
    Whatever one may say, but the article is from the category of "a voice crying in the wilderness", which is very regrettable. sad
    Author:
    First of all, I urge the authorities to recall their obligations and, in the end, begin to work for the good of the people and the country.

    And may I (like so many, many ...) support the author 100500 times good , but "Vaska listens - yes eats" wassat ... But what is really there - "servants of the people" continue to eat without even listening! tongue
  13. -10
    8 September 2015 08: 40
    The author is funny. He writes that he has no money, only credit. And he decided to teach us life. Thanks dude, made happy. But if you're so smart, where is your money
    1. +1
      8 September 2015 14: 34
      Educated people turn to you.
      And I really invested my money in a really lucky chance in the purchase of real estate (just before the default, which was not there), though it was not enough and I had to take a loan, which I am immensely happy with.
      Only the fact that I did not fall under the distribution then does not cancel the fact of impoverishment of 99% of the country's population then and now.
    2. +3
      8 September 2015 16: 16
      Quote: RiverVV
      But if you're so smart, where is your money


      On this the american proverb there is a good Chinese answer:
      When the state is governed reasonably - shame on poverty. When the state is governed unreasonableare shameful of wealth and honor. (Confucius).

      So the proverb is true for reasonably managed state - and not for Russia! request
  14. 0
    8 September 2015 08: 52
    Ruble's exchange rate. M. Yuriev. "GlavRadioOnline
  15. +6
    8 September 2015 08: 58
    Article plus. Of course you can spin. Only in this situation, we will not have state employees, there will not be people who previously worked in obviously low-paid jobs. Including those where you simply can’t take a person from the street. But what the state should do is to approve a unified budget grid for state employees, so that the authorities receive 2-3 times their subordinates, and not 10-20 times. Introduce an article on the complete confiscation of officials and heads of state projects, if it is proved that it is earned by unearned methods. But only Putin then stupidly these same officials themselves and deposed ...
    1. +2
      8 September 2015 09: 17
      Quote: Zomanus
      But only Putin then stupidly these same officials themselves and deposed ...

      ... and how to do it - before ... and more! ...
    2. mihasik
      +2
      8 September 2015 10: 03
      Quote: Zomanus
      But what the state should have done was to approve a unified budget grid for state employees, so that the authorities would receive 2-3 times more of their subordinates, and not 10-20 times

      If it is 2-3 times, they will steal not by carriages but by steamers). The authorities cannot cope with corruption, so they "legalized" salaries 10-20 times higher than those of their subordinates, hoping that they will steal less. But I don’t understand, our rulers know what country they live in?)
  16. dmb
    +14
    8 September 2015 09: 27
    The author draws quite logical conclusions from what he feels, like millions of our fellow citizens, on his own skin. And no schemes, diagrams and philosophies about "futures and barrels" can refute this. He, like the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of our country, is not a stock player, in other words, a speculator. He has a business that he serves. The only thing that is not clear in the article is the equalization of the revolution and the Maidan. Is it not clear that this equation was deduced by the very power, which he quite rightly calls a murl. It is the authorities who initiate the Maidans. Now, justifying any of her stupidity and meanness, she pokes her gnarled finger towards her neighbors shouting: "Do you want it like in Ukraine?" I hasten to console the indignant "patriots"; overseas reptiles to that Maidan undoubtedly had a hand. But our bastards, who supported Yanukovych, had a hand in him no less. Live with him with dignity, the people of Ukraine, what the hell would Obama could do something.
    1. -4
      8 September 2015 10: 56
      Are you kidding? What business can serve 205577, Skynet or what?
      1. dmb
        +8
        8 September 2015 11: 51
        Well, if YOU are personally acquainted with the author, the flag is in your hands. Publicly expose his "liberal essence", and at the same time refute what has been written and convincingly prove that only under the leadership of the current wise government, we have found the current unearthly happiness.
        1. +4
          8 September 2015 14: 36
          He is not familiar.
          And accusing me of being liberal in nature causes homeric laughter among people who really know me.
        2. -3
          8 September 2015 23: 51
          So you see, what's the matter ... Power to scold - a lot of mind is not necessary. Dissatisfied hamsters will always be found and will begin to cheer happily. But what exactly did this very hamster do for the good of the motherland? Voted for Zhirinovsky? Or jumped on the Maidan? Or maybe he went to Chechnya in the 90s and signed up as a volunteer in the Islamist squad to fight against this power with weapons in his hands?
          He did nothing. Therefore, even if a billion hamsters get together and read this article, nothing will change. Therefore, the author is a sucker, none of the serious people are interested in his conclusions and it is not surprising that he did not begin to subscribe.

          Are you kidding? This is content, no more. Hamsters read, repost and rejoice. An advertisement is placed on the site for this case. PROFIT.
  17. +4
    8 September 2015 10: 02
    The answer to all questions is simple - capitalism. Who should work, and someone to earn.
  18. -4
    8 September 2015 11: 08
    For me - another whining on the topic - "You feel bad? Well, you know who is to blame!" Far from being a fan of Putin. I will say more - even in Brezhnev's dignified and stagnant times, I traveled with my mother to Moscow for sausage, meat and butter (mostly). I am not a fan of either Brezhnev or any of the subsequent leaders of the state, but I also cannot say that they are all exclusive. I cannot name a period for myself when I was much better than in another period. Although, no, there was a period when I lived and served in ZATO after graduating from college, the USSR existed for some time. I remember that period positively. I can accurately name the period when I personally and my family felt bad, although I still served - the mid-90s (more precisely, about 93-95). Here I can frolic and name a whole list of idiots, seeing them from my bell tower. The default on 98 didn’t affect me much, but overall it was not very comfortable. The money for my paid tuition in 95-97, a one-room apartment in 96 and the only savage vacation at sea just in August 98 was earned by my wife (she dragged herself to Poland and then to Turkey and traded in the bazaar). And you know, since the 2000s, I have felt a change for the better (personally for myself, I don’t advertise anything to anyone). A lot has gone into the past, what should have gone. Therefore, gentlemen, tell me how bad it is for me to live and I will tell you what it is bad to live with and what it is eaten with.
    1. +2
      8 September 2015 12: 26
      "Do you feel bad? Well, you know who is to blame!"


      This inscription is carved on a stone at the crossroads, where Ilya-Muromets stood in thought. For those who feel bad, go left. Those who feel good - to the right. Those who work - directly.
      1. 0
        9 September 2015 09: 03
        Quote: Asadullah
        "Do you feel bad? Well, you know who is to blame!"


        This inscription is carved on a stone at the crossroads, where Ilya-Muromets stood in thought. For those who feel bad, go left. Those who feel good - to the right. Those who work - directly.

        (sorry that only one + is possible!)
        There are a lot of such "to the left"! ... With this "quantitative quality" you cannot create a real economy, you cannot build it! Because - they are "left-handed" consumers ... or they are called in another way now, but - Roskomnadzor forbade swearing ...
        So, to the left: devour, drink, have a bite, get drunk ... bite again ... In the "gaps" - unsubscribe in the comments, how bad it is for the poor fellow to live ...
        They forgot: "... no one will give us deliverance - neither God, nor the king, and not a hero ...", nor the president and not a "quality" government in the amount of ... hundreds of snouts!
        To give birth to a new, your own - yourself, only yourself - without involving "surrogate" moms and dads, with your own hands, heads and everything that anyone has and still works (after excessive eating, drinking and ... other excesses)!
        PS Does not apply to those who are "directly"! Because - you are going the right way, guys! Good luck!
        PPS ... by the way, no one noticed how easily "left" and "right" converge into one track? but with the "straight line" - they rarely do not even converge - they intersect!
  19. Erg
    0
    8 September 2015 11: 12
    Quote: dmb
    Live with him the people of Ukraine with dignity, what the hell would Obama be able to do something.

    DMB. Did people live badly in Libya? And in Iraq? Do not carry nonsense.
    1. dmb
      +4
      8 September 2015 12: 16
      Presumably, you have lived a lot in Iraq and Libya. The truth is rather you focus on the TV picture. Let's start with Iraq. I dare to recall that, in contrast to Ukraine, direct aggression took place there. And the fact that Shiites and Kurds flourished under the leadership of Hussein, tell them. As for Libya, I will gladly listen to your enlightened opinion on the reasons for the increase in the number of opposition to such an extent that they were able to withstand the army. It would be nice to hear from you about the reasons why in the 1991 year our people did not turn the head against Yeltsin, Chubais and poking, poking. Or we lived worse. than in the cute 90 years? Not. Of course, if you had an Adidas costume, a shaved nape, a burgundy jacket and a chain on your neck, you might be better off, but you can’t tell about the rest of the country's population.
  20. -6
    8 September 2015 11: 19
    There are no bucks and euros, the pension comes stably, as I went by minibus for 18 rubles, so I go. A loaf of bread went up from 19rub90 kopeks to 1rub.10 kopeks. and became 21 rubles. Of course, they were rude with cigarettes, but maybe it’s for the best, the idea has appeared to tie with smoking.
    If earlier citizens rushed about in search of food, now, "saving the loot" they rush about salons and supermarkets with jewelry, sweeping away cars, household appliances and gold with brulee.
    If the author transfers all his hard-earned money from rubles to bucks, then of course there is reason to worry. And if people do all the calculations in rubles, then what is the problem?
    And about doing nothing for the country, here are some statistics;
    For 15 years, Russia's budget has been increased by 22 times, military spending - by 30 times, GDP - by 12 times. Gold and currency reserves have been increased by 48 times! 256 mineral deposits were returned to the Russian jurisdiction. From 36th place in the world in terms of GDP, Russia moved to 6th place. “Liberal” bonded production-sharing agreements have been broken. 65% of the oil industry and 95% of the gas are nationalized. For 6 consecutive years, Russia has been ranked 2-3rd in the world in grain exports, ahead of the United States. Average salaries in the public sector increased by 18,5 times. Average pensions increased by 14 times.
    For the author, this is all the little things .....
    Despite being against Russia today economic war is really going on, the loss of the "ruble" is worse for the author than the loss of the country's sovereignty. It is not difficult to understand that the West is forcing Russia to throw dollars out of reserves to support the ruble, in order to zero them out. So the author, deliberately or through misunderstanding, "plays along" the West, demanding to burn the country's reserves to support the ruble at any cost. Well, the author cannot deny himself something either during peace or during war. The sandwich must be with butter!
    1. +3
      8 September 2015 14: 43
      I really want to look at the loaf of bread for 19,90, I just dream. But in Vladivostok, for example, 39 rubles are not of the best quality.
      But it’s not worth juggling, you don’t want to see the rise in prices, and they didn’t even want to understand me. Only if you close your eyes, the reality of this will not change.
      What makes you think that for me the little things are really existing achievements, even though there is a hint in the article about this?
      By the way, the dollar against the ruble over the same 16 years has grown 12 times, that is, according to your statistics, over the 16 years we have not advanced a single step.
      1. -1
        8 September 2015 18: 47
        Quote: 205577
        By the way, the dollar against the ruble over the same 16 years has grown 12 times, that is, according to your statistics, over the 16 years we have not advanced a single step.

        It seems that apart from the price of the loaf, the whole comment does not bother you. Well, come to the Kostroma region, in the Yaroslavl drop in, you can drop into a Kursk, Belgorod and Oryol for a loaf of bread. You do not tie the pricing of bread to the regions. In Komi, for example, a loaf of bread costs 46 rubles. But there the northern and district coefficients in the salaries are calculated. If the salary is 15000 then add 50% and get 22500 - the difference is 7500, this is for you the difference in the price of bread and other products.
        There is a price increase, who argues? But he does not make any comparison with what happened in the 90s, when as a result of hyperinflation, salaries were received not in thousands, but in millions.
        Is your only headache BAX?
        If you write about your affiliation with the sovereign's service, then presumably, being an officer, you have not a bad salary in position and rank, and taking into account the length of service, more than fifty rubles of full-weight rubles probably falls on the card. You from the "bad" will receive a certificate for the apartment, or maybe you have already received it.
        By the way, yes, I did not indicate in the previous commentary this achievement over the past 15 years - the provision of housing for military personnel. Just like that - from the state. But eprst, what am I - I forgot, you are worried about the dollar and "robbery".
        And about the fact that the buck has risen in price 16 times, you in the backwoods tell the tractor driver with a salary of 5 thousand. He had 5, there are 5 and will be 5, and that is typical, he does not panic, but does his job.
        1. 0
          9 September 2015 11: 07
          Apparently we will not understand each other.
          Do you really not understand that the growth of the dollar in the current full-time economy, when we are "very significantly" dependent on imported goods, and all our domestic prices are directly tied to the international price of hydrocarbons (and this price is also in dollars) - is there a direct reduction in the cost of your salary?
          For the same money, personally, you can buy less than you could a year ago, does this suit you?
          And is it really so important who gets how much, even an officer, even a tractor driver, if they "throw" everyone?
          You were really "thrown", you wiped yourself out, found some digestible justification for the situation and that's it. And they will throw you more than once. That's what I told you, no more and no less.
          And about the apartments "just like that - from the state", if you have not felt this "blessing" in the form of serving as an officer on your own skin, then it is useless for me to explain anything. After all, you already "know" how good it is in the army and how "unfairly" they treat you.
          Here is my word of honor on "iron" you would be in "autonomous" for a month or two, or on military service for a year, or in the fields in the mud for three months, when you have a family in rented apartments and in different schools and kindergartens without you dangles ... No need to judge what you do not know, everyone chooses for himself, I do not discuss your earnings "just like that".
    2. 0
      9 September 2015 01: 35
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      256 mineral deposits returned to Russian jurisdiction
      Mars not yet colonized? laughing

      Law of the Russian Federation of February 21, 1992 N 2395-I "On Subsoil"

      1.2 Article. Subsoil Property

      Subsoil within the borders of the territory of the Russian Federation, including underground space and minerals contained in the subsoil, energy and other resources are state property. Issues of ownership, use and disposal of mineral resources are jointly the responsibility of the Russian Federation and the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.

      Subsoil plots may not be subject to purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, contribution, pledge or alienated in any other form. Subsoil use rights may be alienated or transferred from one person to another to the extent that their circulation is permitted by federal laws.


      http://www.gks.ru/bgd/free/B04_03/IssWWW.exe/Stg/d06/178.htm



  21. Erg
    +2
    8 September 2015 11: 25
    From the article I see that the author does not understand at all what is happening to us, and who controls all this, and how. As a human being, I completely agree with him (I also don’t fatten). There is a good documentary "The Ring of Power". And a lot of similar stuff. It's time for us to realize where the legs grow from. There is only one "state" which owes nothing to anyone. Elementary logic dictates that everyone owes him exactly (especially the United States). His name is FRB USA, Fed in our opinion. All! states are enslaved by this monster, and, therefore, we are. Everyone pays. So we were a little robbed on New Year's Eve. I would like to have articles at a higher level, which specifically indicated the reasons and mechanisms. Where methods of counteraction would be discussed. Good day everyone. And do not lose heart. Ours will take!
    1. +2
      8 September 2015 14: 46
      When I read that I don’t understand something at all, it becomes fun to read further.
      Aphorism (this is such wisdom): "There are no people who do not know anything, just as there are no people who know everything."
      You, honestly, are ridiculous in continuing your thought, following the logic of which, you are simply a universal mind.
      1. +2
        8 September 2015 14: 58
        Quote: 205577
        205577

        Good article with pleasure plus! good drinks
        and from myself I’ll add:
        It is absolutely obvious that all budgetary and corporate financial losses of the Russian Federation will be compensated by the domestic market, i.e. at the expense of the population by raising taxes (for the most part hidden), raising the cost of goods and tariffs.
        Certainly to fill the budget into which zp are driven officials and security officials, the ruble will be lowered, and areas not related to the direct administration of the country and the maintenance of the current government will mercilessly cut, cut secretly, while propaganda zombies will intensify in the duroscope.
        The era of "great stability" is coming to its logical conclusion.
        And what it will be remembered for, it will be remembered for the collapse and privatization of the Unified Energy System, the ruthless exploitation of natural resources, the increase in the number of billionaires and millionaires, the vertical increase in the number of officials, corruption, embezzlement, hpp, the flows of migrants that have flooded our cities, zurabovy and Serdyukov, the Olympics, the increase the number of credit vehicles in the population, well, the only random bright spot is the Crimea.
        There is one more fairy tale: about import substitution ....
      2. Erg
        +1
        8 September 2015 15: 39
        What kind of offense? Get yourself together. And my "logic" is to know more. And here on the site there are a lot of interesting and smart people. And what about the article - it leads away from the problem, without revealing the true reasons. hi
        1. +1
          8 September 2015 17: 03
          Let me explain.
          Once I watched a lecture course for employees of special agencies, very instructive and no less informative. So the scheme of "descent" into the masses of Knowledge, according to the levels of education, security, involvement in something, was revealed there. The most interesting thing is that True Knowledge, in principle, is not fully delegated to ANYONE! Each so-called circle of initiation has its own, as they consider the True Knowledge, but in fact the members of the circle are the same gears in the mechanism.
          And even this theory is not the ultimate truth.
          That is why I am genuinely amused by the reasoning of people claiming something on 100% as if someone doesn’t know something and vice versa.
          But the "true" causes of the problem that I described, I do not indicate absolutely deliberately, since I see them by one, to you by another, and I am not going to break copies in this matter. It just seemed to me that people, in principle, took what happened for granted, which in my opinion is wrong.
          Enough time passed, the fever and excitement subsided, there was time to fix something - nothing was done, therefore, I tried to focus attention on this.
          And the reasons and the search for solutions - each one for himself must first figure it out, and not wait for the finished recipe.
          1. Erg
            0
            8 September 2015 19: 22
            To figure it out ... It’s not bad, but not everyone has been given it. Including me. Well, no matter how hard I try. Of course, I’ll come to something myself. But we need a base, facts. And these are books, videos, here on the website I learn a lot from the guys. I analyze. Conclusions and my point of view. Although ... I just accept someone else's existing one. hi
  22. mihasik
    -1
    8 September 2015 11: 36
    Quote: Erg
    I would like to have articles at a higher level, which specifically indicated the causes and mechanisms. Where countermeasures would be discussed

    So from the authorities I would like not to discuss opposition, but already at least some kind of action. But they are not. Putin is spinning, climbing into all the cracks to solve something, and the government, led by Medvedev, is engaged in declarations alone. Look at their meetings, it's a circus!
    Medvedev: We have to do something!
    Ministers: Yes, it is.
    And that is all!
    But we're not giving up "ours"? Is nobility more expensive?
  23. +1
    8 September 2015 11: 59
    Immortal (probably) a joke - since the time of Khrushchev.

    There, in the end, the Secretary General asks the Almighty:
    "When will my people live well?"

    "I will not live." - God said. And he began to cry.
  24. +3
    8 September 2015 12: 00
    Well, at least someone started asking questions. What the hell ... friends of Nabibulina-Putin rob me personally, in my pocket, out of the blue. Do I owe them something? When I managed to owe money and for what?
    In order to understand the economy, you don't need a lot of intelligence, for this you don't need to complete courses at the HSE. The ruble collapsed, prices rose. Consumption has dropped, we cannot buy the same amount, there is no money. Half a year later, the currencies of all the surrounding countries fell, a significant part of whose products we consumed. If we already have all sorts of CIS-Evrazes, then get together with the Nazarbayevs, invite the Kremlin's, hand over our presumptuous "leaders", you, too, suffer from their effectiveness. Kazakhs, write to your newly elected one, you need to do something, it's time to cover all this big top before they covered us.
  25. +1
    8 September 2015 12: 19
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    as I went by minibus for 18 rubles, so I go. A loaf of bread went up from 19rub90 kopeks to 1rub.10 kopeks. and became 21 rubles. Of course, they were rude with cigarettes, but maybe it’s for the best — an idea has appeared to tie with smoking.


    That's all for now)) Those who produce bread also want to live.
    And the driver who drives you on the bus.
    Everything rises in price, and even as it rises in price!
    They just haven't woken up yet. Wait for a "surprise"!
    The same imported spare parts cannot be cheaper than the euro and the dollar.
    1. -2
      8 September 2015 19: 01
      Quote: maestro123
      That's all for now)) Those who produce bread also want to live. And the driver who takes you on the bus. Everything is getting more expensive, and how much more expensive it will be! Wait for a "surprise"! The same imported spare part cannot be cheaper than the euro and dollar rates.

      Yes, that's all and the hedgehog is clear. Only who said that the current situation with the exchange rates (ruble / dollar or ruble / euro) has been established for decades? While the pendulum swung not in our favor, it swayed in another. What ahead of time to tear vests on the belly? The crisis, my friend, he does not have exclusively Russian residence permits. What is one country that is not sausage today? Where is the growth of economy and consumption? Everywhere, devaluation, inflation, recession, stagnation, and some also default, are short. But who will safely endure from this crisis storm - we will see. It will not be easy.
  26. +1
    8 September 2015 12: 27
    A good example.

    1. +2
      8 September 2015 13: 09
      Yes, yes, yes. Of course. Well, yes. That's right. Well, yes, of course, we should do it, tell me. Where is the health surveillance there? Am I supposed to order you not to steal? Well, you see, we react, everything is going fine.
  27. +6
    8 September 2015 12: 48
    What to say on this article? I have nothing, in principle, it is ...
    1. mihasik
      +1
      8 September 2015 13: 33
      Quote: Altona
      What to say on this article? I have nothing, in principle, it is ...

      ))) Especially the "apple" on Doshirak smiled) Are we in trouble?))
      1. +2
        8 September 2015 22: 33
        Quote: mihasik
        ))) Especially the "apple" on Doshirak smiled) Are we in trouble?))

        --------------------------
        -Do you want to become rich and successful? Just lift your ass off the couch!

        -Well, what's next?

        - Uh ... I don’t know ... We haven’t come this far yet ...

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        Joke of the week
  28. +6
    8 September 2015 12: 54
    Once the dollar was small - only 6 rubles, but now it has grown and aged - already under 70. I hope it dies soon.

    -----------------
    Joke of the month
  29. +2
    8 September 2015 14: 35
    Once we were all "small" and thought that after 60 years we need to retire, and not strain those around us with senile marasmus ... But having become "big" we decided that after 60 years life is just beginning ...

    It is a burden for some to want to rule, to rule over the people, not having the slightest idea of ​​the prospects for development, having lived a mature life in a world incomprehensible to ordinary mortals.
  30. -2
    8 September 2015 15: 56
    Quote: Volzhanin
    And the authorities, as the people stood by the train, never even tried to turn around. One talking room, but in fact everything is exactly the opposite. To call her to prudence, as the author naively does, is useless. It’s like pulling a jerk off a geek. It is necessary to completely change the management system and rewrite laws that allow authorities to rob people and DO NOT RESPOND FOR ANYTHING!

    Here is at least one example, in any country where power stands for a certain collective people not in this place.
    The people, he is on all sides, no matter how you turn around, you still face someone or vice versa.
    And of course, the pinnacle of naivety is to believe that everything can be changed, and immediately it will become good.
  31. -2
    8 September 2015 15: 58
    That's all for now)) Those who produce bread also want to live.
    And the driver who drives you on the bus.
    Everything rises in price, and even as it rises in price!
    They just haven't woken up yet. Wait for a "surprise"!

    Carrr!
    "When they beat you, you will cry"
  32. 0
    8 September 2015 16: 20
    I don’t quite agree that all the savings were taken away from people. People have money on deposits, now they have raised interest on deposits, albeit not covering inflation. For this money, for example, you can buy real estate. At the end of 2014, at the beginning of 2015, housing prices grew up in the wake of hype in new buildings, but now they have smoothly gone down to the previous level and even lower thanks to stocks. So, what a year ago, what is now for one the same money you can buy real estate. Of course, in other categories like transport or household appliances, the situation is somewhat different. If you don’t even buy anything and leave money on deposit, then interest will be spent on it and no one will take it. It’s clear that with further accumulation review the budget and not buy something that you can do without, but if you have a goal, you will have to give up something.
    I don’t justify this economic situation, but those who didn’t run into exchangers didn’t lose so much and their deposits work. I’m talking about savings on bank deposits.
    1. 0
      8 September 2015 22: 05
      Quote: oleg391976
      It is clear that with further accumulation, you will have to revise the budget and not buy something that you can do without, but if you have a goal, you will have to give up something.
      I don’t justify this economic situation, but those who didn’t run into exchangers didn’t lose so much and their deposits work. I’m talking about savings on bank deposits.

      ---------------------------------
      The dollar is also exchanged at a "prohibitive rate", with a big difference between the selling rate and the buying rate ... Deposits in the bank should not be touched, especially since the bank can force you to write an application for "ordering money" and issue them the next day, when the rate currency may change ... In general, for those who want to play, I advise you to keep about 500 thousand or more on a term deposit at interest (now 10-11%, it was about 14), and "play" on the exchange rate in the amount of no more than 300 thousand rubles (5 $ 000 approximately), that is, with the most successful sale option, you will receive a "win" of 50 rubles (000 rubles per dollar, maybe more) ... Put the earned profit and the original amount back into the bank at 10% and get it in a year 10 thousand rubles ... 385 + 550 = 385 thousand rubles (it was 935 + 500 = 300 thousand) ... That is, your total annual profitability will be about 800% ...
  33. -3
    8 September 2015 16: 30
    The article is somehow hysterical.
    In fact, we again survived the 1998 default
    Default, dear, is the inability of the state to service its debts.
    then the dollar grew not three but three times
    this is called devaluation.
    I still remember how it was
    I also remember well. And it wasn’t nearby.
    First of all, I urge the authorities to recall their obligations and, in the end, begin to work for the good of the people and the country.
    Dear, the concept of the welfare of the people and the country in people does not necessarily coincide. And yours is not necessarily true. In particular, the Central Bank does not consider it good for people to have a large number of ruble savings. Money lying in zagashniks does not participate in circulation and increase the risk of hyperinflation in the event of any cataclysms.
    It is time to cease to be celestials and realize that we live in a world in which even an unintentional mistake will be immediately used by real-life enemies.
    So do not indulge your enemies.
    It is time to start a new life: the official must "plow" and not "be" ..
    This applies to everyone.
    Responsibility for an official should be many times higher and inevitable than for an ordinary person.
    Curious who do you think is an ordinary person? Why did the ordinary person who installed the sensor, something there, with Progress, on the contrary, as a result of which the Progress fell, the responsibility should be less than for example the tax inspector.
    But for this we need the will of the same government, we need a really working system of justice, we need a state idea!
    The justice system of power protects first of all power. Otherwise, anarchy, you will be the lack of power. Only idealists can think differently.
    And what about us?
    There is no anarchy.
    personally, I never heard anything concrete from the state’s first person, except for declarative statements.
    Hmm. They listened poorly. The state idea today is to obtain real sovereignty by Russia. In the meantime, you will yell and resent the rise in price of cut paper and others like it, which really limits our sovereignty, then this will remain a declaration.
    but I reserve my right to ask from those who call themselves "servants of the people." What have they done to make our country and our people live better?
    If you have a right, you must have a right. In particular, what have you personally done to make our country and our people live better. Unless of course we are talking about the same country and people?
    In my opinion, as long as it turns out somehow not very, I will say frankly - it turns out only worse.
    It depends. Somewhere better, somewhere worse. In general, you can live, we do not die of hunger, it is no longer a shame (compared to the 90s), something you can already be proud of. I think we’ll break through.
    1. +2
      8 September 2015 17: 39
      Bravo!
      Conclusions:
      - people for power, and not vice versa;
      - money must be withdrawn from people (it does not matter that they earned it) because they themselves do not spend it where it is needed;
      - the good of the people and the country is determined not by the people as a whole and not by its individual representatives in particular, but apparently by those who are supposed to;
      - the state idea is sovereignty (though Yeltsin was still handing it out to the handfuls, the one from the 90's, so what's better?) own citizens, or space exploration, to feed the country in the end - Sovereignty !;
      - as already mentioned in the article, any criticism of the authorities is indulging in enemies;
      - Civil law guaranteed by the Constitution is not for everyone, someone has to assess who and how many rights are required ...
      Well and so on in the text.
      Amazing nonsense.
      Maybe you really do not live in Russia? It would just explain everything, otherwise there is only one option - you are a representative of the government (although in this case you are definitely not living in my Russia).
    2. Platon Mironov
      0
      9 September 2015 12: 11
      Default, dear, is when expenses exceed revenues !!! Most Russians have already defaulted !!! And you are talking about some external debts ... It's time to start reading scientific literature, not science fiction !!!
  34. 0
    8 September 2015 16: 48
    I have a simple question for our government: why did my income depreciate at least one and a half times?


    And this is not a question for the government. And to gentlemen businessmen. And not at all "oilmen". Gasoline was kept for more than six months. A question for businessmen like "buy-sell". Which inflated prices, as the author correctly put it. Recently, out of the corner of my eye, I saw that Shuvalov said the right thing, saying that if the currency is depreciating in the West, then there is no rise in prices for domestic goods. And here, even if there is imported pepper in the sausage, the price was immediately raised. This is not a fiction, on the base at the Ratimir kiosk it was written in black and white in early December last year. They say that prices have risen due to the fact that stocks of old spices have run out. Such are the DOMESTIC producers - PATRIOTS, damn it! But this is not GDP, not LADIES, not Lavrov, not Livanov or Golodets or Nabiullina. These are all WE who walk and drive alongside, but at the same time try to rob US and rob. You die today and I die tomorrow. So, maybe, start with yourself first? And then, I'm afraid, here not only the GDP, but also the IVS would not cope with such CONSUMERS.
  35. 0
    8 September 2015 19: 04
    leave unnecessary disputes ...



    In my homeland I miss my homeland ...
  36. -4
    8 September 2015 20: 34
    In my opinion, another "officer's daughter". The main idea of ​​the article, in my opinion: "The sanctions have nothing to do with it, it was Putin who messed up." The author is obviously trying to correct the mistake of the United States, which was not smart enough to understand that those who impose sanctions, and not those who fell under them, will be blamed for the deterioration of the economy in Russia.
    And it is generally incorrect to compare with 1998, then the country was purposefully led to default in the interests of the "seven-bank"
  37. 0
    8 September 2015 21: 13
    Quote: CONTROL
    Quote: Mitrich76
    in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation there are no (apparently specially) articles similar to that same 53. That is, there are no and never are enemies of the people

    Today I know for sure: there are enemies of the people! And I can name their names, addresses, place of work ... tell biographies ...
    The vast majority of, say, VO site visitors can do this too, and much better than me ...

    Easy! Just what next?
  38. +3
    8 September 2015 21: 25
    "If ordinary people knew what was going on in the government, then they would stop dying for their Motherland" (Charles de Gaulle)
  39. 0
    10 September 2015 10: 00
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    The question is different: why our leaders do not move the horn and allow such blunders and theft, which must be judged as treason!

    And here it is very simple. Our beloved government is that very fifth column. You will search the Internet for an interview with the cleverest person, Valentin Yurievich Katasonov. He explains everything very sensibly.

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