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Ukraine promises to create a launch vehicle for the US, if they finance the development

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Kiev expects Washington to continue its good deeds, hoping that the Americans will be interested in the idea of ​​a joint project to create a launch vehicle. In the US, the need for such a technique really exists. The question rests on the lack of money from the Ukrainian side, the newspaper writes Look, with reference to an interview with Voice of America by the chairman of the Ukrainian Space Agency, Lubomir Sabadosh, who is currently in the United States.




Ukraine cannot start work independently because of the high cost of the project.

“Our today's visit and discussion with representatives of the American business allows us to say that we can create carrier rockets together that can take over the functions of a person’s flight to the orbital station. An example is the participation of Ukrainian companies in the creation of the Antares launch vehicle, which will deliver primarily the necessary payloads to the orbital station, and then, possibly, fulfill the mission of delivering the manned crew, ”said Sabadosh.

“Ukraine will not be able to independently perform a closed cycle for the production of a launch vehicle. This is very expensive. We understand that at a time when we have difficulties in the economy, investing money only in the space industry will not be entirely correct. But the government pays special attention to the development of space cooperation with international partners, ”he added.

And, indeed, the United States, trying to get rid of its dependence on the Russian Federation, has long been trying to create its own missiles to deliver astronauts to the orbital complex. However, while forced to use Russian services.

Academician of the Russian Academy of Cosmonautics. K. E. Tsiolkovsky Alexander Zheleznyakov believes that Russia will not suffer from the Ukrainian-American cooperation in this matter.

“To begin with, Russia currently has no joint launch vehicle projects with the United States. So the Ukrainians will not close and occupy our niche under any circumstances, the expert noted. - The question is different: does Ukraine today have opportunities for full-fledged cooperation with the Americans? If you remember our near history, Ukraine, in particular in Dnepropetrovsk, did have a powerful production base in the field of rocket and space technology. Back in Soviet times there were launch vehicles. And we can assume that Ukraine still retains some part of this potential. ”

According to him, “in principle, Ukrainians can create joint rocket technology with the Americans. It would be financing. From Washington, of course. ”

“Here you can recall the fact that the Ukrainian side participated in the creation of the first step for the American ship Antares. Ukrainians also worked on the Vega light-class European launch vehicle. Those developments, the materials that they have, apparently, interested the American side, ”said Zheleznyakov.

Another reason why the project may interest Washington is the financial side of the issue: Ukrainians, in any case, will ask for their services less money than their own developers.

However, in the opinion of Vzglyad, the academician’s assessments look too optimistic. According to the newspaper, Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash is currently "on the verge of complete degradation," and it will be extremely difficult for him to rise "from his knees".
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  1. Abbra
    Abbra 5 September 2015 09: 17 New
    +42
    Well, I don’t know what to say. At first I was neighing. Then he lit a cigarette. Then he said mentally - pah, and went to breakfast. We believe, friends, in caravans of rockets ... fellow
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 September 2015 09: 20 New
      +18
      How “cute” it looks from space: a Ukrainian rocket takes off from the “globe of Ukraine”! All aliens in touch! smile
      1. Darkmor
        Darkmor 5 September 2015 10: 03 New
        +23
        There is logic, there is female logic, and there is Ukrainian.

        Explain why the United States should finance the creation of a launch vehicle in Ukraine, when the United States can finance itself for the creation of this missile - which it actually does. The US is ahead of ukrov in technology, especially in terms of material resources. For spaceports, logistics and transportation of prototypes, they are much easier to do in the United States.
        Well, what side did Ukraine get into it, the country of the great ones?

        You are still developing for the United States stealth fighters and laser missile defense ...
        Ukrainians, such Ukrainians, tfu ...
        1. Altona
          Altona 5 September 2015 11: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Darkmor
          Explain why the United States should finance the creation of a launch vehicle in Ukraine, when the United States can finance itself for the creation of this missile - which it actually does. The US is ahead of ukrov in technology, especially in terms of material resources. For spaceports, logistics and transportation of prototypes, they are much easier to do in the United States.
          Well, what side did Ukraine get into it, the country of the great ones?

          ----------------------
          I also thought about this ... the United States usually buys a ready-made reliable product that has been tested as they say, like our Russian rocket engines ... But from scratch, it’s not a fact that something else will work, but with such thieving partners ... the overall result is unpredictable so far ... And in the case of manufacturing at home, at least the money within the States will remain and the money is rather big ...
        2. Rarahin
          Rarahin 5 September 2015 11: 29 New
          +12
          I translate from Khokhlo-Ragulsky: GIVE MONEY !!
        3. iConst
          iConst 5 September 2015 11: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Darkmor
          Explain why the United States should finance the creation of a launch vehicle in Ukraine, when the United States can finance itself for the creation of this missile - which it actually does.

          Much easier for a small penny in bulk to buy up the "brains" and specialists of enterprises. And then they are re-qualified as managerial houses - then you will lure FIGs ... laughing

          Bulbashi, by the way, did just that - they invited them with entire enterprises (I don’t know now).
        4. Dart2027
          Dart2027 5 September 2015 13: 11 New
          +2
          It’s just that they will finance the Russophobic fascists there, but there will be space financing on paper.
        5. demo
          demo 5 September 2015 19: 43 New
          0
          Ukrainian responsible and irresponsible people are looking for the application of their forces or talents, and suckers, which can be redeemed for money.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 September 2015 09: 21 New
      +11
      They no longer know how else to breed amers for money ..... Well, Ukrainians, well, inventors! Although I think the idea of ​​Yaytsenyukh has a nose for free money .... And here's another control shot ......
      In addition, President Poroshenko’s own production facilities have long mastered the large-node assembly of wheeled Belarus. Two years ago, the government took large-scale loans under state guarantees in the amount of 5 billion hryvnia to launch investment projects for the production of complex agricultural equipment. In the Chernihiv town of Nizhyn, together with the Italian manufacturer Landini SpA, they were going to establish a full-scale assembly of agricultural tractors. As you know, PJSC Nezhinselmash through the Ukravtozapchast LLC enters the orbit of Petro Poroshenko. Why does he need competitors? The last blow under the breath here received from American friends. At the end of October, immediately after the launch from the Cosmodrome in Virginia, the Antares launch vehicle exploded, which was supposed to launch the Cygnus cargo spacecraft into orbit. The first stage of an exploding rocket is made in Dnepropetrovsk, these are modified Soviet NK-33 engines.

      Source: http://politikus.ru/events/4
      Politikus.ru
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 5 September 2015 09: 33 New
        +7
        Quote: MIKHAN
        They no longer know how else to breed amers for money ..... Well, Ukrainians, well, inventors! Although I think the idea of ​​Yaytsenyukh has a nose for free money ....

        Touched in the USSR’s rocket science, they couldn’t destroy it in Ukraine 20 years before the end (although they tried hard) According to this, Ukrainians will be able to design a rocket in theory (and the USSR’s drawings and technologies of energy were probably preserved)
        Only nah ... Yusovtsy Ukrainian rockets!? They need slaves on hacienda, not Ukrainian high technology.
        In general, elections will soon be needed tales!
        1. Douel
          Douel 5 September 2015 10: 11 New
          +3
          So the Ukrainians will get the latest developments that were not sold to the Americans and the Chinese, and will hand them over to the matricians. But all this documentation is not ownership of the process.
          An example of this is the same Chinese licked "Kalashnikov". If memory does not fail in Afghanistan, the Russian (Soviet) is still much more appreciated than Chinese, then more tenacious.
          So I hope that megakidoks of mattresses will be released ukrami, or such rockets will fly, but not for long, for very short.
    3. Civil
      Civil 5 September 2015 09: 21 New
      +20
      I want to see it! If only the Americans did not move out! It will be megakidok!
      1. Tor5
        Tor5 5 September 2015 09: 42 New
        +6
        Yes, that’s what the Shtatovs would have bought!
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      3. APASUS
        APASUS 5 September 2015 09: 45 New
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        I want to see it! If only the Americans did not move out! It will be megakidok!

        Ah, thoughts, my horses ........... Americans will not allow such a reversal hypothetically, they cannot depend on a country with an incomprehensible future, present and past.
        Of course, Ukraine will get a contract for the production of fuel tanks and this will be extolled as a success of Ukrainian science and industry, led by the pragmatic leadership of the country, well, all this lobud more ........
        1. Armax
          Armax 5 September 2015 10: 27 New
          +6
          Quote: APASUS
          Of course, Ukraine will get a contract for the production of fuel tanks and this will be extolled as a success of Ukrainian science


          I agree, and with regard to technology, documentation and leading experts, I think everything has long been in the hands of NASA.
    4. Finches
      Finches 5 September 2015 09: 25 New
      +4
      In such cases, the brilliant Stanislavsky exclaimed:"I do not believe!!!" laughing
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    6. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 5 September 2015 09: 42 New
      +15
      At first I was neighing. Then lit up

      The guys in the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau apparently also neighing at first, then lit, and then, I think, also drank ... hi
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 5 September 2015 09: 44 New
        +7
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        , also drank ...

        Remembered.
      2. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 5 September 2015 09: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        The guys in the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau apparently also neighing at first, then lit, and then, I think, also drank ...


        Hardly.
        For the “South” came very dark days. It is unlikely that they have money to drink.
        Actually, they don’t even have water in their buildings. It is a miracle that there is still electricity, and then, it cannot be said for how long.
        1. Rokossovsky
          Rokossovsky 5 September 2015 10: 07 New
          +3
          It is a miracle that there is still electricity

          That same famous cotton electricity! lol
        2. demon1978
          demon1978 5 September 2015 10: 16 New
          +3
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Hardly.
          For the “South” came very dark days. It is unlikely that they have money to drink.
          Actually, they don’t even have water in their buildings. It is a miracle that there is still electricity, and then, it cannot be said for how long.


          Yes, it’s not easy for the people there now, especially for those who didn’t jump but work. I recently saw a story about a strike about not paying salaries at the Yuzhny
          Workers in plain text demanded from Offal:
          -If our country no longer needs rockets, then provide the company with a state order at least for chisels and sledgehammers, if only there is something to eat !!!!!
          1. Rokossovsky
            Rokossovsky 5 September 2015 10: 32 New
            +5
            provide the company with government orders at least for chisels and sledgehammers

            Intercontinental Chisels and Sledgehammers laughing
            1. Dmitrij Volodin
              Dmitrij Volodin 5 September 2015 23: 47 New
              0
              Why laugh, terrible things, with three steps laughing
    7. Andrea
      Andrea 5 September 2015 09: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: Abbra
      Well, I don’t know what to say. At first I was neighing. Then he lit a cigarette. Then he said mentally - pah, and went to breakfast. We believe, friends, in rocket caravans.
      I agree, I almost described myself with laughter.
      Americanosses with ukrams have already upgraded our engine. laughing
      Well, why should they pay ukram if they know how to steal no worse ... and, I think, build a rocket too. laughing
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 5 September 2015 09: 51 New
        0
        And it’s necessary to develop a bit, something about a billion dollars laughing
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 5 September 2015 09: 54 New
          -1
          Quote: Igor39
          And it’s necessary to develop a bit, something about a billion dollars


          Nothing is needed for development at all, everything is ready-made.
          Billion - this is a new nameplate for the rocket, so that Russia would not rightly be indignant at such an impudent sale of Soviet technology to the open, for Ukraine has never declared itself the successor of the USSR.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 5 September 2015 17: 58 New
            +1
            such an impudent open sale of Soviet technology, for Ukraine has never declared itself the successor of the USSR. ,,
            Yes, they have already sold everything, regardless of succession or not.
        2. major147
          major147 5 September 2015 20: 33 New
          +1
          There is an old Soviet joke on this subject. During the period of stagnation, a person comes to the Central Committee of the CPSU. He seems to be an unrecognized inventor and reports that he has invented a method of making food from Go, and asks for revision one million rubles and 1 year time. The Central Committee thought and gave. A year later, the inventor is called to Moscow and asked about the result. He, slightly embarrassed, replies that eating is not yet possible, but bread can already be spread!
          So with ukroraketetikami. I have no doubt that they will make a rocket. True, she will not be able to fly, but it will be possible to take to the start.
          1. Dmitrij Volodin
            Dmitrij Volodin 5 September 2015 23: 53 New
            0
            In the news on (I don’t remember which channel) it was said that the Americans had already figured out how to mold products for their life activity from the shit of astronauts (excuse me - astronauts) fellow
    8. siberalt
      siberalt 5 September 2015 09: 53 New
      0
      The outskirts of the EU will be populated by refugees from Africa in the amount of 100 thousand (for the first time) on the basis of an association preparation agreement with Europe. But migrants from the outskirts of the EU are not allowed. So the engines themselves will come in handy for moving to the moon, for example laughing
      1. Temples
        Temples 5 September 2015 10: 07 New
        +3
        Chairman of the Space Agency of Ukraine Lyubomir Sabadosh graduated from the Lviv Commercial Academy. He worked as a tax inspector.

        They will certainly create a rocket and a torpedo and button accordion. With such an education!

        The whole world was at a low start and was waiting when Ukraine will make its choice - who should make the rocket ??? And finally!

        Astronauts applaud !!!
        In the distant past there were flights to the ISS on the way. Have your own rocket! Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the inspectors of the tax service - the leading specialists in the rocket science of mankind !!!
        1. Artyom
          Artyom 5 September 2015 10: 34 New
          0
          Americans have no problems in the production of their own rocket engines, everything as usual rests on the cost, ours are several times cheaper, and since the loot drives, it’s more profitable to buy ours than to produce your own, just business - nothing personal. hi
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          2. siberalt
            siberalt 5 September 2015 15: 10 New
            0
            Again, some sort of Svidomo all minus. It seems that the “censor.net” opponents are over. laughing
    9. palmse
      palmse 5 September 2015 10: 40 New
      -1
      I smoked that if a joke was drawn to the hawk
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 5 September 2015 11: 08 New
        0
        Yes, Americans already see how and where their money is going in Ukraine. Well, it’s just on the line of NASA - a black hole. And in the United States itself there are plenty of people who want to cut the state budget in the space industry. So they gave it to some natives laughing
    10. kolobok63
      kolobok63 5 September 2015 11: 50 New
      0
      They will fly from star to star ... (from one state to another!) hi She ne died of dill? hi
    11. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 5 September 2015 13: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Abbra
      Well, I don’t know what to say. At first I was neighing. Then he lit a cigarette. Then he said mentally - pah, and went to breakfast. We believe, friends, in caravans of rockets ... fellow

      They still do not understand that the Americans are deliberately destroying the space industry, and not restoring it.
    12. Alekseev
      Alekseev 5 September 2015 14: 33 New
      0
      Quote: Abbra
      Well, I don’t know what to say

      It’s for sure that my old woman was completely fucked up ...
      Even a horse understands that launch vehicles were not created in Dnepropetrovsk at all, but in the Soviet Union. Indeed, Yuzhmash played an important role, but it was valuable only through the close cooperation of thousands of enterprises.
      It is time.
      And secondly: why are Americans so important about Banderstad?
      They can do it all themselves, albeit expensively, but independently, while maintaining the secrets of know-how and will do it in a quality manner.
      Banderlogs are not at all for rocket science, but as cannon fodder are also needed for the stench to annoy Russia.
    13. siberalt
      siberalt 5 September 2015 15: 07 New
      0
      I have an idea! For rocket engines, the fuel is liquid and solid. And why does not the Outskirts differ and make fuel in fat? Fat Ukraine !!! laughing
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 5 September 2015 17: 29 New
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        and make fuel in fat?



        Because they themselves are not enough fat. They bought it in spring in other countries laughing
      2. Dmitrij Volodin
        Dmitrij Volodin 6 September 2015 00: 03 New
        0
        Well, let them make medium fuel - ground corn as an example smile
    14. svp67
      svp67 5 September 2015 15: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: Abbra
      We believe, friends, in caravans of rockets ...

      But still I do not share our peoples, and if we have nuggets, then accordingly they are on that part. That is, they will probably still be able to calculate the pH, but what next?
      This is what further puts the capital letter “X” on many things. Why, yes, because in the USA at least TWO American companies are working on such a project, if it makes sense to share advanced technologies with Ukrainians? I don’t think it’s easier for them to buy the right amount of specialists and transport them to the United States or to open “subsidiaries” or “branches” in Ukraine, but to solve very narrowly specialized problems and with the condition that everything developed there will immediately become the property of the USA .
    15. DPZ
      DPZ 5 September 2015 19: 14 New
      0
      and we especially believe that Ukraine uses the money for its intended purpose. after all, there is no one more decent than this country in the matter of developing other people's funds in the world
  2. vovanpain
    vovanpain 5 September 2015 09: 18 New
    +10
    Joint trampoline they can create only.
  3. pv1005
    pv1005 5 September 2015 09: 18 New
    +2
    Dreams are exciting fantasies.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 5 September 2015 09: 20 New
    0
    Ukraine promises to create a launch vehicle for the US, if they finance the development

    It is possible that the United States can peck at such an offer, only out of a desire to annoy Russia and once again support a disappearing country. But what will it turn out in the end? But this is their internal affair (since Ukraine is already under the protectorate of the United States), if you do not mind the money, then put the cards in your hands.
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 5 September 2015 09: 43 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is possible that the United States can peck at such an offer, only out of a desire to annoy Russia and once again support a disappearing country.

      Not everyone in the USA is as stupid as Zadorny. If they “bite”, then after the ATO (everything can be - and in the Dnieper they will go into conflict with Kuev). Yes, and they will not "throw" their design bureau, do not care about the high cost - the printing press is working.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 5 September 2015 10: 18 New
        0
        I wrote in my opinion
        if you do not mind the money, then cards in hand.
      2. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 5 September 2015 17: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Voha_krim
        Yes, and they will not "throw" their design bureau, do not care about the high cost - the printing press is working.


        Is not a fact. RD-180 is bought from Russia because an analogue created in the USA is much more expensive. So consider the money.
  5. Wolverine
    Wolverine 5 September 2015 09: 22 New
    +2
    They hope for another scam, but the United States cannot be covered with shit and they know how to count money.
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 5 September 2015 09: 23 New
    +2
    Ukrainian space agency ... I wonder what they do there? Probably, traces of proto-ancestral ancestors in the Galaxy are looking for.
  7. atamankko
    atamankko 5 September 2015 09: 24 New
    0
    To negotiate with the junta is very problematic
    even for the USA, they’ll cheat anyway.
  8. BilliBoms09
    BilliBoms09 5 September 2015 09: 24 New
    0

    “Today’s visit and discussion with representatives of American business allows us to say that together we can create launch vehicles that can take over the functions of manned flight to an orbital station. An example is the participation of Ukrainian companies in the creation of the Antares launch vehicle, which will primarily deliver the necessary payloads to the orbital station, and then, possibly, will fulfill the mission of delivering a manned crew, ”Sabadosh said.
    It is interesting that Sabadosh accepted to expand consciousness, one can hardly believe sober. American corporations will never give money to the side, if only for a penny to buy all the documentation, although everything has already been sold there. And in the end, all Ukrainian heavy industry killed, finally and probably irrevocably.
  9. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 5 September 2015 09: 25 New
    +2
    Dill will sell the remnants of Soviet documentation, which will allow mattresses to advance slightly. And they will build ukroraketu on a pea engine.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 September 2015 09: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: stock buildbat
      Dill will sell the remains of Soviet documentation

      Do not be naive, they are already in the USA and free of charge.
    2. Vladimir 70
      Vladimir 70 5 September 2015 11: 01 New
      0
      Dill will sell the remnants of Soviet documentation, which will allow mattresses to advance slightly. And they will build ukroraketu on a pea engine.
      For a long time they sold everything that could be sold to mattresses.
  10. kil 31
    kil 31 5 September 2015 09: 25 New
    +2
    Do not agree. They have already one ANTARES covered itself up through the fault of a great space power. If only a couple of engineers to take to NASA handymen.
  11. morpogr
    morpogr 5 September 2015 09: 26 New
    +2
    Give the main thing more money, but it will not work out, it doesn’t matter.
  12. demon1978
    demon1978 5 September 2015 09: 26 New
    +4
    Ukraine will not be able to independently carry out a closed cycle for the production of a launch vehicle, it is very expensive.

    And it is unlikely to ever be able, in the foreseeable future, at least yes

    However, in the opinion of Vzglyad, the academician’s assessments look too optimistic. According to the newspaper, Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhmash is currently "on the verge of complete degradation," and it will be extremely difficult for him to rise "from his knees".

    Mattresses will simply select 50,100,200 Leading specialists and arrange for them to move to Silicon Valley, or else where, where they are quietly, they will work for the benefit of "the greatest democracy" yes To cut grandmas at home is much more reliable !!!! fellow
    1. Izotovp
      Izotovp 5 September 2015 10: 04 New
      0
      I wanted to say the same about this, that the best ones will be selected. They already came to the Yuzhny Design Bureau with a revision, looked at what they got.
  13. azbukin77
    azbukin77 5 September 2015 09: 28 New
    +2
    Give money, give at least a little, well, at least give something for free! ! ! Do not drink so necessarily stolen. National trait!
  14. VP
    VP 5 September 2015 09: 28 New
    +1
    Chairs in the morning, dkngi in the evening.
    It is impossible with them otherwise.
  15. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 5 September 2015 09: 31 New
    +1
    Pitiful dreams and antics ... Interestingly, the egg promised this to them? Let the country be created first ... storytellers. Americans will give them money, Ukrainians will buy a booster rocket from us, and they will push them to the Amer at an exorbitant price. that’s the whole song.
  16. 79807420129
    79807420129 5 September 2015 09: 31 New
    +9
    I would like to read more articles like that with a little utrechka, I’ve sold it and have been in a good mood all day.
  17. drags33
    drags33 5 September 2015 09: 31 New
    +4
    ukro-natives will create a rocket? Well, well ... It was just said that you need money, I really want to cut it, but there’s nothing left to cut ...
  18. rustemkm
    rustemkm 5 September 2015 09: 41 New
    0
    the maximum that they can do with ov money is:
    1. make a big firecracker
    2. with .... the remaining money, I believe in this scenario.
  19. strelok581
    strelok581 5 September 2015 09: 42 New
    -1
    I never cease to be amazed
    they will be ready to substitute their independent Ukrainian ones for anyone who can pay.
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 5 September 2015 09: 45 New
    0
    It will not work to create such equipment in this country 404. Specialists, technologies, test benches, instruments, calibrations - there is a wagon and a small cart. And the desire to slaver the greens is. Something about the “Antonov” is not heard, maybe there is also a “pepelats” with a mattress to build.
  21. Haettenschweiler
    Haettenschweiler 5 September 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    First they their own hands destroyed the industry by removing ("lustered") the main locomotive of its space industry - Yuri Alekssev, and now they hope to revive it with American money? Oh doubtful!
  22. Nymp
    Nymp 5 September 2015 09: 47 New
    0
    Dill present itself as a talented rocket builder, without which Merikasos could not create their own rocket. Such pathos is unlikely to please the latter. What secrets do juntas have without which the mattress will not fly up? All the secrets they have long given away for nothing. It turns out that here it will be very hard to annoy Russia too much. But even if the joint project does take place, there will be no dazzling exclamation from dill from Washington: “Glory to Ukraine” ...
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 5 September 2015 09: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Nymp
      What secrets do juntas have without which the mattress will not fly up?


      No secrets, really. But they have finished productionwhere can be produced by Soviet patterns heavy and medium carriers. The Americans haven’t gone into the series yet, their own tests, andfile finishing". To deploy in their territory of production, where the process will be Soviet standards? Well, there are no fools here, these technologies will become obsolete by the time the plants are ready - Falcon-9, Angara... but media could be bought by the Ukrainians for pennies ... they could have ... if Ukraine had not been a version of Somalia-2.0.
  23. Simple
    Simple 5 September 2015 09: 50 New
    0
    Investing in long-term contracts in a country rated “404” is trivial compared to creating potential risks in the plans to implement its (NASA) space program.


    Let Svidomo dream.
  24. roskot
    roskot 5 September 2015 09: 52 New
    0
    What can I say. There were Kremlin dreamers, Kuesky appeared. "The army is the best in the world, Putin has set up fascists against nationalists, again the Buryat armored divisions." Now here is the space armed forces. Complete atrophy of the brain.
  25. Old26
    Old26 5 September 2015 09: 53 New
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    Quote: rotmistr60
    It is possible that the United States can peck at such an offer, only out of a desire to annoy Russia and once again support a disappearing country.

    Do not bite. Firstly, they already have a sufficient range of launch vehicles; secondly, they have already refused the help of a great space power in the adaptation of NK-1 engines under Antares (the main task of Design Bureau Yuzhny is the development and control of production at the Yuzhmash plant »Fuel tanks, high pressure tanks, valves, sensors, fuel and power supply systems, pipes, wires and other related equipment). Found a more reliable supplier.

    Quote: BilliBoms09
    Interestingly, Sabadosh took to expand consciousness, sober hardly can be believed

    I liked his phrase
    An example is the participation of Ukrainian companies in the creation of the Antares launch vehicle, which will primarily deliver the necessary payloads to the orbital station, and then, perhaps, will fulfill the mission of delivering a manned crew ”

    This is how much you had to drink, or why smoke to think of this?
    Americans Antares are positioned as a carrier solely for launching the Antares cargo ship into orbit. Its carrying capacity is 5,5 tons
  26. Andrew
    Andrew 5 September 2015 09: 54 New
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    "- What a blue sky! I’m crying for cash! Excellent!"
    - Saw!
  27. loginovich
    loginovich 5 September 2015 09: 57 New
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    Another reason why the project may interest Washington is the financial side of the issue: Ukrainians, in any case, will ask for their services less money than their own developers.

    And the local lobby desires money to pass by the cash register.
    1. Haettenschweiler
      Haettenschweiler 5 September 2015 09: 59 New
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      Quote: loginovich
      Another reason why the project may interest Washington is the financial side of the issue: Ukrainians, in any case, will ask for their services less money than their own developers.


      Not interested never.
      Americans are much smarter on this issue than any Zadornov.
      Yes, they brought the production, including high-tech, from their country to the countries of China, India and other Thailand, but! - all Development is conducted exclusively on American territory and is never transferred to third parties. All that the above countries get - some money for assembly on finished patterns and a production license, and under control american engineer.
  28. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 5 September 2015 09: 58 New
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    First they make an engine, and then a rocket, and nothing else. Ukraine has never made engines, and the United States prefers to buy them in Russia. Antares has already been burned in the collaboration, it is unlikely that they will find other fools.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 5 September 2015 13: 28 New
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      Yes! The United States already at the stands brought the engines to replace our NK-33 and RD-180 / RD-185.
  29. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 5 September 2015 10: 00 New
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    It’s interesting, did this kb do anything all this time? Or the more perspicacious escaped, well, maybe they rode to us or rode on the Maidan. They don’t pay money for it. Who will develop the project? A specialist who works all the time.
  30. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 5 September 2015 10: 12 New
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    Put a minus, this unsigned publication only because this article has already been published on the site. And word for word.
  31. tomsk
    tomsk 5 September 2015 10: 13 New
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    what media ??? All the technologies that remained from the USSR were sold long ago to China and North Korea.
  32. vtorov.andrej
    vtorov.andrej 5 September 2015 10: 18 New
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    And who will be to blame if she does not take off ??? I think the guilty party has already been appointed!
  33. avtotekhnik
    avtotekhnik 5 September 2015 10: 18 New
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    I feel a great POWER in them. Young served Poro - Shen - Ko will be able to achieve a lot. And the great helicopter can build, which will plow the expanses of the universe))))
  34. Megavolt1
    Megavolt1 5 September 2015 10: 20 New
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    We’ll fence off the Great Wall from the Russian Federation ...
    Dig a great moat on the border ...
    We’ll do better missiles than the Russian ones ...
    Well, give me money for at least something. Well, do you feel sorry? laughing
  35. Old26
    Old26 5 September 2015 10: 20 New
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    Quote: Alexander 3
    Interestingly, and all this time this KB did something?

    Did. Several projects of military missiles and carrier rockets have been completed. Everything is exclusively in paper version, version of computer graphics and layouts. They have, for example, an operational-tactical complex, which in its parameters "is much superior to the Russian Iskander. It is called Sapsan. Before that, there were also missile systems superior to Russian ones - Borisfen, Grom (maybe I forgot call)
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 6 September 2015 17: 54 New
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      It’s interesting, but who gave the task for this work? This work needs to be paid. And who will carry out these projects? It seems to me that this is all fake. They haven’t done anything yet, but is it better than the Russians?
  36. sv68
    sv68 5 September 2015 10: 25 New
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    the main thing here is to check in, say that we can do everything at your expense, but ... do we need to try to finance something other than war in the outskirts, a question of questions ..
  37. vlad7777kul
    vlad7777kul 5 September 2015 10: 26 New
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    I would like to look at that idiot who agrees to fly on a Khokhlyat rocket into space.
  38. cte-power
    cte-power 5 September 2015 10: 28 New
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    Than to arrange a lottery with Ukrainian Yuzhmash - it is easier to pull the remnants of Ukrainian (and in fact ethnic Russians) specialists to America and there to give them the task to build this rocket.
    the costs for each specialist are minimal - a small salary, a cardboard house in the suburbs and an almost new Chevrolet
  39. family tree
    family tree 5 September 2015 10: 30 New
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    So, there, in the sense of Amers, there seems to be a problem with the engine, and not a booster, although, apparently, there is no difference for the tax inspector laughing
  40. Friends
    Friends 5 September 2015 10: 31 New
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    The question is different: does Ukraine today have opportunities for full cooperation with the Americans?


    Exactly.

    In particular, the question is whether, on the same Yuzhmash, there is a sufficient number of qualified specialists to pull off such a project. Given a number of factors, they are most likely no longer there.
  41. sv68
    sv68 5 September 2015 10: 31 New
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    the outskirts promise us that it can promise what the carrier will do, and the uss promise that they will believe that the outskirts can even promise that they promise ...
  42. dr.star75
    dr.star75 5 September 2015 10: 37 New
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    I thought they already make potbelly stoves, but what kind of rockets do you say? Last century! Now all progressive plants in / in Ukraine make potbelly stoves in nanotechnology.
  43. Old26
    Old26 5 September 2015 10: 37 New
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    Quote: cte-power
    Than to arrange a lottery with Ukrainian Yuzhmash - it is easier to pull the remnants of Ukrainian (and in fact ethnic Russians) specialists to America and there to give them the task to build this rocket.

    What for? Why should the Americans build a rocket based on Ukrainian developments? Engineers may already be pulled out. But who now remains there on Yuzhmash? Recent developments date back to the late 80s and early 90s. Passed QUARTER OF CENTURY. Who of those who designed (really designed, that is, occupied the levels of at least chief engineers, leading designers, etc.) is now in service. People usually reached this level in 35-40-45 years. Add 25. The youngest of these specialists is already SIXTY
    But the United States has enough missiles. Anatres, Minotaur (from the lungs), Delta-4 in various forms, Atlas-5 in various forms, Falcon, on the approach of SLS. And there are a lot of other, unrealized projects. Haha they also Ukrainian rocket
  44. HAM
    HAM 5 September 2015 10: 45 New
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    While Ukrainians develop a carrier, the ISS will crash to the ground, they would immediately suggest to Mars, it will not fall for sure.
  45. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 5 September 2015 10: 46 New
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    We just don’t understand anything, this is a very subtle move. They want to make a rocket not for the Americans, but for themselves, namely, to fight corruption. If you don’t believe me, here’s a verse from them
    songs:
    "We’ll put a cult of sili and pennies,
    I am for the cult of freedom of all. For me, well done.
    Hto vіzme swag - to fly into space,
    we will not be corrupt, here it’s dumb to live. "

    Swag bribe. So these "radishes" also want to tear up space! belay
  46. askort154
    askort154 5 September 2015 10: 46 New
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    Who will seriously cooperate with Ukraine?
    - the construction of a cosmodrome in Brazil - zilch,
    - the construction of ports in the Crimea and the development of black earth together with China - zilch,
    - There has already been an attempt to jointly develop rocket science with the USA (the rocket exploded in the first minute) - zilch.
    - coal supplies from Australia - zilch,
    - coal supplies from South Africa - zilch,
    - BMP supplies to Iraq - zilch,
    - shale oil production - zilch,
    - enter the EU - zilch,
    - visa-free regime in the EU - zilch.
    First you need to get out of shit without falling apart, and then hang noodles about your "need" for the whole World.
  47. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 5 September 2015 10: 47 New
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    I read the comments ...

    I wonder if you really know how to gloat and scoff? Yes, in Ukraine now collapse and devastation, but ordinary people are not to blame for this, remember, 20 years ago we had the same thing and if not for Putin, then we would now be in the same pit as Ukraine ...

    Here it is not necessary to gloat, but to sympathize and be glad if they succeed, that in Ukraine someone will get a job ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 5 September 2015 15: 21 New
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      Ordinary people are not to blame? And who was on the Maidan? Who supported pravosekov? Who is the pet
      elected a drunk in the presidency? So blame yourself! By your action or inaction!
  48. Old26
    Old26 5 September 2015 11: 00 New
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    Quote: Santjaga_Garka
    Here it is not necessary to gloat, but to sympathize and be glad if they succeed, that in Ukraine someone will get a job ...

    To sympathize? I sympathize! Well, what does this change in the topic of the article? What can Ukraine do what it announces?
    So when all the military-technical ties with Russia were broken, nobody thought that thousands would be left without work. Now they suddenly thought about the need for jobs. That's just the Americans "Yuzhmash" is not needed. As well as the South missile missiles. Dreams that someone will order something to them - nonsense
  49. lopvlad
    lopvlad 5 September 2015 11: 30 New
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    Ukraine promises to create a launch vehicle for the US, if they finance the development

    naive Ukrainians. If the Americans need a launch vehicle, they will finance this development at home.
    No serious company will invest money in development in Ukraine where this money has time to steal already on the way to the plant.
  50. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 5 September 2015 11: 51 New
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    Someday they will create it, but even when there really will be a base, money and mind! And today they lack only one thing, there is no money from America but UMA because what, it was during the USSR, that school those levels of education that mathematical section when calculating is not on a computer or with a calculator. and so I will deduce all the formulas on the drafts, having experienced piles of sheets, etc. For all the calculations, not only the material base is also necessary, but also a test bench, but how America develops building models and doesn’t make prototypes on their characteristics, but real things are completely nonsense, especially as it was noted above that I left the Union or Russia it will not be enough, it is clearly seen how they are the Americans laundering money, Serdyukov just resting, the Americans will not go to implement the project at the request of Ukraine for the sole reason that they themselves know how to launder money no worse than the outskirts!